Attendance Analysis

So I may have a little extra time on my hands at work given the economy.

I built a spreadsheet with data from this season and the last two (1 at CAA, 1 at the ROCK).

The attached chart summarizes the CUMULATIVE AVERAGE of ticket sales for the first ten games of each season. Even though there is a lot of 'doom and gloom' this year, you will note that ten games in sales are still significantly higher than they were at CAA, and only trailing last year by a small margin at this point.

I'll update this thing again after the next 10 home games.

Ciao

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The way things look we are probably going to finish at around 15k per game.

The way things look we are probably going to finish at around 15k per game.

Ain't nothing wrong with that.

theking72, nice chart. Way to make good use of your time :)

The way things look we are probably going to finish at around 15k per game.

Aslong as the atmosphere is good, and the big-wigs are making this a profitable franchise, nobody can really complain.

Do you think if they lowered prices to get butts in seats, people would actually go?

I think they would rather get what they are getting now, than risk getting less just to try and get arses in seats. As sad as that is... :shakehead

I think they would rather get what they are getting now, than risk getting less just to try and get arses in seats. As sad as that is... :shakehead

That's business.

IMO the reason why the attendence it higher then the last season at the rock is because of how close it is to Newark Penn.

Well done:handclap:

Aslong as the atmosphere is good, and the big-wigs are making this a profitable franchise, nobody can really complain.

Do you think if they lowered prices to get butts in seats, people would actually go?

I think they would rather get what they are getting now, than risk getting less just to try and get arses in seats. As sad as that is... :shakehead

After attending last Saturday's game it is obvious that if the Devilos lowered prices I am not sure how much attendance would increase. The weekends, yes, but during the week no. The reason is that our fan base is almost entirely made up of regular families. Not the corporate type like the rags who fill their arena on weekday games. On weekends, the Rags are like us with a lot of families. They do not care if the ticket is $10 or $50, they are not going to take their kids to a weeknight game and get home late. Just look at how many weekday games we have and there are PLENTY of cheap seats available. So ticket prices are not the entire issue (although I think the carzy priced mez sections keep us from selling out weekend games).

I give credit to the Devils in that they are maximizing ticket revenue knowing that lower prices will not bring in many more people. Now if they could market better that is a whole different story.

I still believe that increased concession revenue would offset everything. As much as haters would like to cry otherwise, we have the fans, we have proved that fact many times in the past. Us Devils fans and our brother Islanders fans have the same cross to bare, being a fan of a team in a crowded market among a more established Rangers fanbase who has there obnoxious roots in our state and on the island. The crowd on Saturday was awesome, practically a full house. I have one gripe...
To club seat owners.
Can you please at least watch 1 period from your ****ing seat? I know the bar is awesome but its bizarre seeing the lower level practically full and then having both center sections half empty because the priority is the bar and free food.

The college nights are huge. But they need to offer students discounts to all games as well. Grow the fan-base.

The college nights are huge. But they need to offer students discounts to all games as well. Grow the fan-base.

yeah I agree they should offer it in general not just a handful of games.

The college nights are huge. But they need to offer students discounts to all games as well. Grow the fan-base.

NO pro team does that. Not even the going bankrupt ones. Just add on a few extra dates(ie Fridays). Don't want to piss off STHs even more.

The college nights are huge. But they need to offer students discounts to all games as well. Grow the fan-base.

I wonder if the Devils actually have contacts at each college in NJ and worked out a deal to make this promo known to the students?
Especially Rutgers, Monmouth, Montclair St, Stevens Tech and Seton Hall (all are near train lines to Newark). If the Devils are just sitting back and waiting for college students to find this information on their own it will not be successful.

I still believe that increased concession revenue would offset everything. As much as haters would like to cry otherwise, we have the fans, we have proved that fact many times in the past. Us Devils fans and our brother Islanders fans have the same cross to bare, being a fan of a team in a crowded market among a more established Rangers fanbase who has there obnoxious roots in our state and on the island. The crowd on Saturday was awesome, practically a full house. I have one gripe...
To club seat owners.
Can you please at least watch 1 period from your ****ing seat? I know the bar is awesome but its bizarre seeing the lower level practically full and then having both center sections half empty because the priority is the bar and free food.

If i could afford club seat you could bet your ass i would sitting in those large comfy chairs for the whole damn game. Use the bar during intermission or if we are losing badly. Or hell pre and post game. They pay $200 to sit in a bar all night seems like a waste to me.

NO pro team does that. Not even the going bankrupt ones. Just add on a few extra dates(ie Fridays). Don't want to piss off STHs even more.

The Pens do it every game.. Just limited tickets for some

The Devils need to market these to actual colleges and universities..

None of my buddies at local colleges know about this discount

The Pens do it every game.. Just limited tickets for some

The Devils need to market these to actual colleges and universities..

None of my buddies at local colleges know about this discount

It could be a money making opportunity for college students.
Maybe not in the Florida game, but for the Avs game students can purchase tix at the discount level and then re-sell them at face vaule via Stubhub, eBay or in person outside of The Rock on game night.

It could be a money making opportunity for college students.
Maybe not in the Florida game, but for the Avs game students can purchase tix at the discount level and then re-sell them at face vaule via Stubhub, eBay or in person outside of The Rock on game night.

So make them Will-Call only and have to show your student ID.

So make them Will-Call only and have to show your student ID.

Students can also just show their college id at the box office and tix are $20 instead of $15, in the usual $38 sections.

Thanks for doing this king

The Devils took out a half page ad in my school paper today advertising the college nights.

Very good to see something like this by the Devils for the first time and shocking me by taking out an ad - it undoubtedly get to a vast majority of the campus and it's very noticable.

How is that chart "rolling", because you're not removing data points as a new game is played? Or are you? Because if you're using rolling 3 games or rolling 5 games etc... the data could be predjudiced quite a bit by the schedule.


I give credit to the Devils in that they are maximizing ticket revenue knowing that lower prices will not bring in many more people.

Couldnt disagree with the above more (not to mention the fact it flies in the face of economic theory). Plus, we've already seen a few games early on this season that likely would have sold out if not for a few stupidly priced "problem areas" of the arena.

I think we all can agree on one thing, Saturday's game is a sign of good things to come in the future, even if it was $1 hot dog night and we played the Oven Chickens. The chart gives me some relief, comparing sales to last year and from our final year in The Swamp.

[QUOTE=BenedictGomez;16371193]How is that chart "rolling", because you're not removing data points as a new game is played? Or are you? Because if you're using rolling 3 games or rolling 5 games etc... the data could be predjudiced quite a bit by the schedule.


It's rolling because for each game, you add the game attendance to the numerator and then add one to the denominator. The end result is the sum of the attendance for every game, divided by the total number of games - the "season average", which is easily comarable across seasons.

So currently, the denominator is 10 because the data is for ten games played. The last data point equal the attendance for the first ten games, divided by ten.

This data is useful because it shows when attendance is trending up or down, but a one game spike in either direction doesn't cause a big movement - useful for watching trends over time.

As the season goes on, particuarly when we cross into the next year and football season ends, attendance trends upwards for the remainder of the season.

It's rolling because for each game, you add the game attendance to the numerator and then add one to the denominator. The end result is the sum of the attendance for every game, divided by the total number of games - the "season average", which is easily comarable across seasons.

But that's not a "rolling average", it's just an average. When you talk about "rolling" it means you're dropping off a data point in favor of a new one. It's a cool idea though to see that plotted against last year and the last at CAA and it would be interesting to see you update this every so often. My guess is this year's graph will continue to dip below last years due to the economy (and the no Brodeur factor).
Also, what is the actual data between last year and this year after 10 games? It lookes likes about 500 less per game. (~5000 less so far). Projected that would be about 20,000 less tickets sold than last year. Lets say the average of those tickets is about $60, and it's about $1.2M less gate than last year. Very crude math of course, but a guesstimate.

I reckon one way to boost the attendance would be to delay the start time of games, push it back to a 7.30 pm start. Many folks work in the city and trying to get through the tunnel in rush hour is a killer. What I'm saying is 7.00 pm is too early, delay the start for half an hour and I would think that might add 1000 to the gate, JMO.

I reckon one way to boost the attendance would be to delay the start time of games, push it back to a 7.30 pm start. Many folks work in the city and trying to get through the tunnel in rush hour is a killer. What I'm saying is 7.00 pm is too early, delay the start for half an hour and I would think that might add 1000 to the gate, JMO.

Get on the train....7pm is here to stay!

I reckon one way to boost the attendance would be to delay the start time of games, push it back to a 7.30 pm start. Many folks work in the city and trying to get through the tunnel in rush hour is a killer. What I'm saying is 7.00 pm is too early, delay the start for half an hour and I would think that might add 1000 to the gate, JMO.

I dont think anyone doubts 7:30pm would be a better start time to get bodies in the seats, but 1000 IMO is a bit aggressive.

I see good things happening for the Devils attendance-wise.

I'm bored and don't want to write this paper about Egypt in the 1800's so I'm looking at the schedule and I'm going to compile guesses about it.

DEF sellouts:
Dec 12 vs Rangers
Dec 21 vs Flyers (It's a Sunday and a rivalry and kids home from college for break)
Feb 9 vs Rangers
Mar 1 vs Flyers (Sunday, maybe?)
Apr 11 vs Canes (last game of the season)



Over 15k
Nov 20 vs Panthers (college night)
Nov 21 vs Islanders (Friday night)
Dec 13 vs Sabres (Saturday night, def over 16k)
Dec 19 vs Sens (Friday night)
Dec 26 vs Pens (Friday)
Jan 2 vs Montreal (Friday)
Jan 4 vs Sens (Sunday)
Jan 8 vs Thrashers (college night)
Jan 30 vs Pittsburgh (Friday)
Feb 7 vs Kings (Saturday)
Feb 11 vs Isles (Wednesday vs Isles and Isles fans travel well)
Feb 13 vs Boston (Friday)
Feb 15 vs Sharks (Sunday)
Feb 26 vs Avs (college night)
Feb 28 vs Panthers (Saturday)
Mar 12 vs Coyotes (college night)
Mar 17 vs Chicago (Tuesday night, I think this would draw)
Mar 20 vs Minny (Friday night)
Mar 28 vs Carolina (Saturday night)
Apr 3 vs Tampa (Friday night)
Apr 7 vs Toronto (Tuesday but end of season)






Under 15k
Dec 10 vs. Pittsburgh (Wednesday)
Dec 23 vs Boston (Tuesday)
Jan 21 vs Montreal (Wednesday, although Habs fans travel well)
Feb 3 vs Washington (Tuesday)
Mar 10 vs Flames (Tuesday, maybe the smallest crowd of the year lol)


Factoring in the winter attendance boost from college kids, tickets given as gifts for the holidays, spring breaks, the boost of attendance when Marty comes back. I actually am very positive about this year's attendance that it will be better than last year.

I'm not sure when the rest of the 1$ hot dog games are, but it almost sold out the building Saturday so that's good as well.

I reckon one way to boost the attendance would be to delay the start time of games, push it back to a 7.30 pm start. Many folks work in the city and trying to get through the tunnel in rush hour is a killer. What I'm saying is 7.00 pm is too early, delay the start for half an hour and I would think that might add 1000 to the gate, JMO.
We had one 7:30 start this year (before Marty was injured) and the attendance was 14,119. Nothing special there.

I reckon one way to boost the attendance would be to delay the start time of games, push it back to a 7.30 pm start. Many folks work in the city and trying to get through the tunnel in rush hour is a killer. What I'm saying is 7.00 pm is too early, delay the start for half an hour and I would think that might add 1000 to the gate, JMO.So if games at the CAA/Izod started at 7:00 we would have drawn 9,000 instead of 10,000.:sarcasm:

We had one 7:30 start this year (before Marty was injured) and the attendance was 14,119. Nothing special there.

It was a non-weekend game against a non-Atlantic opponent. That is pretty good considering what we can get on a night like that.

I see good things happening for the Devils attendance-wise.

I'm bored and don't want to write this paper about Egypt in the 1800's so I'm looking at the schedule and I'm going to compile guesses about it.

DEF sellouts:
Dec 12 vs Rangers
Dec 21 vs Flyers (It's a Sunday and a rivalry and kids home from college for break)
Feb 9 vs Rangers
Mar 1 vs Flyers (Sunday, maybe?)
Apr 11 vs Canes (last game of the season)



Over 15k
Nov 20 vs Panthers (college night)
Nov 21 vs Islanders (Friday night)
Dec 13 vs Sabres (Saturday night, def over 16k)
Dec 19 vs Sens (Friday night)
Dec 26 vs Pens (Friday)
Jan 2 vs Montreal (Friday)
Jan 4 vs Sens (Sunday)
Jan 8 vs Thrashers (college night)
Jan 30 vs Pittsburgh (Friday)
Feb 7 vs Kings (Saturday)
Feb 11 vs Isles (Wednesday vs Isles and Isles fans travel well)
Feb 13 vs Boston (Friday)
Feb 15 vs Sharks (Sunday)
Feb 26 vs Avs (college night)
Feb 28 vs Panthers (Saturday)
Mar 12 vs Coyotes (college night)
Mar 17 vs Chicago (Tuesday night, I think this would draw)
Mar 20 vs Minny (Friday night)
Mar 28 vs Carolina (Saturday night)
Apr 3 vs Tampa (Friday night)
Apr 7 vs Toronto (Tuesday but end of season)






Under 15k
Dec 10 vs. Pittsburgh (Wednesday)
Dec 23 vs Boston (Tuesday)
Jan 21 vs Montreal (Wednesday, although Habs fans travel well)
Feb 3 vs Washington (Tuesday)
Mar 10 vs Flames (Tuesday, maybe the smallest crowd of the year lol)


Factoring in the winter attendance boost from college kids, tickets given as gifts for the holidays, spring breaks, the boost of attendance when Marty comes back. I actually am very positive about this year's attendance that it will be better than last year.

I'm not sure when the rest of the 1$ hot dog games are, but it almost sold out the building Saturday so that's good as well.We play PTC one game at a time here buddy!:sarcasm:

We play PTC one game at a time here buddy!:sarcasm:

Bullcrapsalad I just won them all!

We had one 7:30 start this year (before Marty was injured) and the attendance was 14,119. Nothing special there.

I understand the Devils wanted the 7:00 starts cause people getting out of work in the city could come right over instead of going home first.

It was a non-weekend game against a non-Atlantic opponent. That is pretty good considering what we can get on a night like that.

Exactly. If anything, that 14000+ night was a argument FOR the 7:30pm starts.

I understand the Devils wanted the 7:00 starts cause people getting out of work in the city could come right over instead of going home first.

That makes absolutely no sense.

We play PTC one game at a time here buddy!:sarcasm:

Bullcrapsalad I just won them all!

ahhh double

We got to be the only fanbase on these boards or any other that is obsessed with attendance and yes im included here.;)

Factoring in the winter attendance boost from college kids, tickets given as gifts for the holidays, spring breaks, the boost of attendance when Marty comes back. I actually am very positive about this year's attendance that it will be better than last year.

I'm not sure when the rest of the 1$ hot dog games are, but it almost sold out the building Saturday so that's good as well.

You're way too optomistic. The Devils aren't getting 15,000+ for any weekday game that doesn't involve a division team, although I don't think they'll get below 15,000 for a weekend game the rest of the way at least, or not very much below it. The hot dog games are all on weekends too iirc.

A lot of you seem to be putting a ton of stock in college nights, the Devils apparently aren't even advertising them AT the local colleges :rant:

I pretty much agree with your sellout list though I wouldn't call the final game of the year a definite sellout, especially if the team's out of it or already clinched a spot - though it being on a weekend helps. I do think 12/26 could be a sellout, first game after the holiday always does well and it's against the Pens to boot.

EDIT: Well okay, here goes nothing:

Probable/definite sellouts - 12/12, 12/21, 12/26, 2/9, 3/1, 4/11
Likely 15,000+ - 11/21, 12/10, 12/13, 1/2, 1/4, 1/30, 2/7, 2/11, 2/15, 2/30, 3/28
Likely under 15,000 - 11/20, 12/19, 12/23, 1/8, 1/21, 2/3, 2/13, 2/28, 3/10, 3/12, 3/17, 3/20, 4/3, 4/7

We got to be the only fanbase on these boards or any other that is obsessed with attendance and yes im included here.;)

we would make the best gym teachers.

I live in NYC and get off at 6pm, I make it to the Rink coming from East 50s and 1st by 7pm. 7:30 would be easier to get to, but I don't like waiting for the game to start during the week. I'd rather rush to get there, and get home earlier..ESPECIALLY since their are less and less trains as the night goes on. That 7:30 against the Leafs, I got home at midnight, most 7pm games I'm home by 10:30...There's less trains going back towards Secaucus Junction/Manhattan after 9:30

I live in NYC and get off at 6pm, I make it to the Rink coming from East 50s and 1st by 7pm.

Maybe you make it by the skin of your teeth, but I bet you have to be late at least 1/3 of the time. You must have a good 10 minute walk just to get to the 6-train from 1st-avenue, and the last train from NYP to Newark that can get you there on time is the 6:34 (I sometimes have to take that one). And then you've got to RUN (literally) when you get off the train to make the drop of the puck. I'm lucky in that I live right on the 1-train, so I dont have to make it across town. So I'm fine with the 7pm starts and actually prefer them, but for the good of the fan base I wish they'd switch it back to 7:30pm. This might be my next letter to management. I'm sick of seeing the building empty at 7pm and relatively full at 7:25.

I've never been late to the game leaving from where I do, sometimes I have to jog to make trains/etc but I am on time 100% of the time.

I hussle my ass to the E from 51/3 to Penn get right on NJT and usually make the 6:13/6:24 and speed walk right to my seat usually in time for scratches and the rest...

$$$$$$$$$$ is the problem.

To club seat owners.
Can you please at least watch 1 period from your ****ing seat? I know the bar is awesome but its bizarre seeing the lower level practically full and then having both center sections half empty because the priority is the bar and free food.

Pardon my ignorance, but you get free food if you have club seat tickets?

Pardon my ignorance, but you get free food if you have club seat tickets?

yessireee. i love it when my friends dad gets those tickets for free.

Get on the train....7pm is here to stay!

I'd have a hard time getting to the game on time even if I left my house at 7.00pm the day before the game and took the train.

I'd have a hard time getting to the game on time even if I left my house at 7.00pm the day before the game and took the train.

well you better get tickets for when the devils play the stars!

We had one 7:30 start this year (before Marty was injured) and the attendance was 14,119. Nothing special there.

I wonder if that game started at 7.00 pm if the gate would have been 13,119 ?

I couldn't hurt the Devils if they tried 5 games as an experiment? IMO they'd get better crowds with the later starts.

well you better get tickets for when the devils play the stars!

Already done ;) I often go to big D to watch games (non Devils). Haven't missed a Devils game in Dallas since 2002.

Already done ;) I often go to big D to watch games (non Devils). Haven't missed a Devils game in Dallas since 2002.

good work. hopefully they can blow them out again. :handclap:

good work. hopefully they can blow them out again. :handclap:

It will be even better when that #16 gets a pasting :yo:

It will be even better when that #16 gets a pasting :yo:

and your going to be the only one cheering! :laugh:

Pardon my ignorance, but you get free food if you have club seat tickets?

I believe so.

with the price of club seats, I would hesitate to call it "free" food... but yes it includes food with your ticket price.

Already done ;) I often go to big D to watch games (non Devils). Haven't missed a Devils game in Dallas since 2002.

I'll see you there! I'm going to St. Louis the night before and then heading to Dallas from there!

and your going to be the only one cheering! :laugh:

You'd be surprised there's a lot of Devils fans in TX.

I'll see you there! I'm going to St. Louis the night before and then heading to Dallas from there!

Yup, we'll drive up "have a few" then drive back after the game. ( I won't be driving back Mrs Scoot will be )

Hello my Devils peoples. As promised now that we are halfway through our home schedule I have updated the "Average Attendance" chart. Looks like the discounting of tickets has been keeping results close to those of last year halfway through.

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Looks like the discounting of tickets has been keeping results close to those of last year halfway through.

Looks about as most of us expected. Keep up the good work.

One thing I'd also expect is a slight "Marty bounce" for the first few games he returns.

Surprised we didn't ellipse last year once yet.

Surprised we didn't ellipse last year once yet.


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I believe we will end the regular season with a solid 15,600 average.
And once Marty gets close to breaking the record you will see mid-week games get more weekend like turnouts.
Establishing a home arena advantage, especially against the Rangers recently has given the morale at our games a much stronger feel. The crowd for the game against Montreal was incredible.
The problem will always be getting the people to buy the overpriced seating in the lower corners, etc. This team is still cutting an impressive profit with a 15,000 average.

Surprised we didn't ellipse last year once yet.
Fail0rz

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After attending last Saturday's game it is obvious that if the Devilos lowered prices I am not sure how much attendance would increase. The weekends, yes, but during the week no. The reason is that our fan base is almost entirely made up of regular families. Not the corporate type like the rags who fill their arena on weekday games. On weekends, the Rags are like us with a lot of families. They do not care if the ticket is $10 or $50, they are not going to take their kids to a weeknight game and get home late. Just look at how many weekday games we have and there are PLENTY of cheap seats available. So ticket prices are not the entire issue (although I think the carzy priced mez sections keep us from selling out weekend games).

I give credit to the Devils in that they are maximizing ticket revenue knowing that lower prices will not bring in many more people. Now if they could market better that is a whole different story.

I respectfully disagree. The more affordable you make the tickets the more fans will be willing and able to buy them. In tough economic times you have to give incentives to fans to get them into the seats. Charging high prices isn't doing that, if anything it's discouraging them. One thing the Devils haven't realized in the past is if you get a fan in the building there are ten other ways to get money out of there pocket i.e. concessions, merchandise, etc. This is why the Devils are starting to have things like College Night and $1 hot-dogs, and the family four pack. It's not much but it's a start. If they put more programs like that into place I bet attendance at The Rock will go up.

Surprised we didn't ellipse last year once yet.

Opposite of 'success'.

Wow, I misspelled one word and it's followed by 4 smartass comments. I guess I set the bar so high for myself that I'm not allowed to make mistakes anymore.

Wow, I misspelled one word and it's followed by 4 smartass comments. I guess I set the bar so high for myself that I'm not allowed to make mistakes anymore.

final test: pronounce the last name Foligno.

Does it sound like;

a) fo-leen-o
b) fo-lig-no
c) fo-lean-e-yo

If you said C - you skaaaar!

shat scaar!

Updated average attendance chart

3/4 of the way through the home games and we have surpassed last year's attendance:

Through 30 games last season: 456,415
Through 30 games this season: 465,669

I like it!



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Updated average attendance chart

3/4 of the way through the home games and we have surpassed last year's attendance:

Through 30 games last season: 456,415
Through 30 games this season: 465,669

I like it!



http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/ornsteins/AttendQ3.jpg

A nice surprise given the state of the economy.

Marty's return and chase for the all-time wins record could boost it for games that on paper appear to be sparse crowds: Calgary 3/10, Florida 2/28, Phoenix 3/12.

A nice surprise given the state of the economy.

Marty's return and chase for the all-time wins record could boost it for games that on paper appear to be sparse crowds: Calgary 3/10, Florida 2/28, Phoenix 3/12.

Florida is a dollar dog matinee isn't it? That should be a big crowd, and Phoenix is the last college night and they've been VERY successful this year. Calgary on a Tuesday night on the other hand....

i think its funny that we play Calgary, Phoenix, Chicago, and Minnesota all in the span of about 10 days at home

Florida is a dollar dog matinee isn't it? That should be a big crowd, and Phoenix is the last college night and they've been VERY successful this year. Calgary on a Tuesday night on the other hand....

I would normally agree with you on the Florida game, but we have Philly at 1pm the next day too (Devils Free Youth Jersey Day). VBK can't be happy with the schedule makers at the NHL.

this could be all bs. but from what i was told before pru center opened and they announced the 7pm start times at caa u needed to have a later start with the rt3 traffic and the mess it was to park once inside. the reason they went to 7pm was because of location to train station it wasnt about attendance.

if u really want to get attendance up yes lower some seat prices. even in the mezz section i see alot of empty $65.00 seats when they run the promo's $35 for $65 seats i notice its normally fuller. i for one cant afford anything over $35 per seat more so if i have to take the kids so normally i stick with $25.00 seats but those normally are sold out through ticketmaster.

what they should do is as gameday approaches if they notice alot of seats going unsold sell them cheaper!!! i know for a fact if 1-2 days before the game if i got an email showing me discounts i would go... so thats 4 more to the attendance records. i bet alot of you who dont have season tickets will go also.

lets do the math $65.00 for tickets to a non playoff game to me is not worth it $65.00 x 4 260.00 now lets add in train fair 12.00 round trip for all since i have kids no matter how much i feed them before game they always want at least something like ice cream lets add in about $10.00 gotta have the helmet cup no simple carvel cup will do. lets add in 1 large soda to share if my math is right im at about $300.00 i dont take that home in 1 week.

now if im not mistaken pru center holds just over 17K. and average attendance from what im reading here is about 15K. so 2K empty seats. now lets take those 2K seats lets charge only $15.00 for them. but only 1-2 days before game. now lets see attendace go up i bet they sellout almost every game like the $10.00 seats. now lets add in the money those people will bring to the consession stands its a no loose situation for the devils but instead they will just let them go empty!!! which is good cause a few times i found myself sitting in those lower empty seats :P

There is no way the Devils are going to charge that little for seats 100$ and up.
Our PR is making a difference this season, I really believe we will crack 16k average by the years end. Which means an incredible cut of money, I believe we may jump up higher than 10th in revenue if this happens.

Aslong as the atmosphere is good, and the big-wigs are making this a profitable franchise, nobody can really complain.

Do you think if they lowered prices to get butts in seats, people would actually go?

I think they would rather get what they are getting now, than risk getting less just to try and get arses in seats. As sad as that is... :shakehead

Yes. Twice I went to buy tickets at the box office before a game and ended up not getting tickets because of the rediculous prices. Both times I wasnt the only one that left.

this could be all bs. but from what i was told before pru center opened and they announced the 7pm start times at caa u needed to have a later start with the rt3 traffic and the mess it was to park once inside. the reason they went to 7pm was because of location to train station it wasnt about attendance. but if u really want to get attendance up yes lower some seat prices. even in the mezz section i see alot of empty $65.00 seats when they run the promo's $35 for $65 seats i notice its normally fuller. i for one cant afford anything over $35 per seat more so if i have to take the kids so normally i stick with $25.00 seats but those normally are sold out through ticketmaster. what they should do is as gameday approaches if they notice alot of seats going unsold sell them cheaper!!! i know for a fact if 1-2 days before the game if i got an email showing me discounts i would go... so thats 4 more to the attendance records. i bet alot of you who dont have season tickets will go also. but $65.00 for tickets to a non playoff game to me is not worth it $65.00 x 4 260.00 now lets add in train fair 12.00 round trip for all since i have kids no matter how much i feed them before game they always want at least something like ice cream lets add in about $10.00 gotta have the helmet cup no simple carvel cup will do. lets add in 1 large soda to share if my math is right im at about $300.00 i dont take that home in 1 week.
now if im not mistaken pru center holds just over 17K. and average attendance from what im reading here is about 15K. so 2K empty seats. now lets take those 2K seats lets charge only $15.00 for them. but only 1-2 days before game. now lets see attendace go up i bet they sellout almost every game like the $10.00 seats. now lets add in the money those people will bring to the consession stands its a no loose situation for the devils but instead they will just let them go empty!!! which is good cause a few times i found myself sitting in those lower empty seats :P

I'm not trying to be a dick, but do you really expect people to read that mess? Paragraph that **** man.

There is no way the Devils are going to charge that little for seats 100$ and up.
Our PR is making a difference this season, I really believe we will crack 16k average by the years end. Which means an incredible cut of money, I believe we may jump up higher than 10th in revenue if this happens.

Devils have to average 17,302 the rest of the way to end the season averaging 16,000 a game. I'd love it to happen but I just don't see it.

Devils have to average 17,302 the rest of the way to end the season averaging 16,000 a game. I'd love it to happen but I just don't see it.

Well we will get close. Damn you people and your math. :laugh:

Devils have to average 17,302 the rest of the way to end the season averaging 16,000 a game. I'd love it to happen but I just don't see it.

Unless they do some more 2 for $40 deals we will see a few clunker crowds vs Phoenix, Calgary, etc. I hope they announce Marty's first game soon whether it be 2/26 vs Colorado or 2/28 vs Florida, so people have enough time to rearrange their schedules and buy tickets to that one.

Marty better play 2/26 because i wont be able to make it to the 2/28 game

Devils have to average 17,302 the rest of the way to end the season averaging 16,000 a game. I'd love it to happen but I just don't see it.

and to average 17,302, basically every crowd will have to be 17,000+ (give or a take a few).

This will no longer be a possibility after next Thursday.

A nice surprise given the state of the economy.

And the fact that this is year #2 of the Rock, not year #1, plus four fewer division games - though otoh there are far more weekend games this year which helps the attendance.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but do you really expect people to read that mess? Paragraph that **** man.

fixed, sorry i go on my rants and dont normally space myself properly thanks for the info and no you were not sounding like a dick i should know better this isnt my first forum

what they should do is as gameday approaches if they notice alot of seats going unsold sell them cheaper!!! i know for a fact if 1-2 days before the game if i got an email showing me discounts i would go... so thats 4 more to the attendance records. i bet alot of you who dont have season tickets will go also.

now if im not mistaken pru center holds just over 17K. and average attendance from what im reading here is about 15K. so 2K empty seats. now lets take those 2K seats lets charge only $15.00 for them. but only 1-2 days before game. now lets see attendace go up i bet they sellout almost every game like the $10.00 seats.

You can't do that... Why would people even buy tickets ahead of time if they know they can hold out and wait to get unsold ones for cheap?

ok then do it 1 hour before game time, box office only and that after the $10 seats are sold out. they dont have to be as cheap as i stated but discounted. ever buy a tix from a scalper as the game is starting or right after u can find scalpers taking $5 bucks for good seats just to make something.

there are so many ways they could fill more seats. 1 thing that might work more devils dancers...heheheheh cant see them from the upper sections

again, you cant do that because then EVERYONE would just wait to buy tickets until right before the game starts...advance sales would go down

I have seasons in 209 but I sat in the balcony yesterday, 3rd row.
The view is awesome on the side coming towards you twice and you feel much closer to the ice than in 209.
If the pricng was better in the balconies I think you would see more season ticket holders in those sections.

I would not give up 209 because of the fans around me and the atmosphere up there, along with the low pricing, but if the Devs lowered balconies to $40 I could see some folks move down there for STH.

You can't do that... Why would people even buy tickets ahead of time if they know they can hold out and wait to get unsold ones for cheap?

Exactly, that would be a recipe for financial disaster.

I have seasons in 209 but I sat in the balcony yesterday, 3rd row.
The view is awesome on the side coming towards you twice and you feel much closer to the ice than in 209.
If the pricng was better in the balconies I think you would see more season ticket holders in those sections.

I would not give up 209 because of the fans around me and the atmosphere up there, along with the low pricing, but if the Devs lowered balconies to $40 I could see some folks move down there for STH.

There's not doubt. At $65, that view is simply not worth it. As you said, it's wonderful when the puck is in your end, but you cant see very well when the puck is in the other end. And when there's a goal mouth scramble, you cant see a blessed thing.

It is finally official, next season I will be a full STH. :handclap: Me and my friend are going to try to get somewhere around 208 or 225.

It is finally official, next season I will be a full STH. :handclap: Me and my friend are going to try to get somewhere around 208 or 225.

Cool, I think if you put down a deposit this month you can even get playoff tix at discounted pricing. You know 208 is a great corner, i am sure 225 is good too, hope to see you in 208.

It is finally official, next season I will be a full STH. :handclap: Me and my friend are going to try to get somewhere around 208 or 225.

About friggin' time!!!! :handclap:

I didnt think they still let people get ST in the corner though since they're supposed to be low budget tix? Not so?

About friggin' time!!!! :handclap:

I didnt think they still let people get ST in the corner though since they're supposed to be low budget tix? Not so?

Well there are definitely $22 tickets available as seasons but I doubt there'll be any more $15 season tickets...if there were I'd be on it in a second. As it is I have to get tickets through an out of state friend (he let me have them when he moved) but was told he can't transfer them to me in name because it was a special deal.

I used to sit in 223 in the Meadowlands and that was my favorite section in the arena, even with the goal judge blocking half the goal from my view. When we got our first ticket plan in 93 those seats were $30. Eventually they priced us out when they got over $40 and eventually up to $52 for that section.

I'd kill to have a plan in 103 at the Rock. The view is even better there because you're right on top of the goal. It's incredibly steep. If they were $35 a game, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Hopefully they can use this economy as an excuse to lower the remaining ridiculously priced seats next season.

Teh Rangerz hav 3 home arenaz lolllllllllllllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Teh Rangerz hav 3 home arenaz lolllllllllllllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The way they are playing lately they will be lucky to have 1.

The way they are playing lately they will be lucky to have 1.

Don't worry, if they play the Buffalo Sabres system, everything will be okay.

If okay equals Wade Redden having a Larry Robinson-like +/-.... except where there'd be a - in front of the number instead of a +.

Cheaper Tix prices do bring fans in especially when you need to buy more than one a game. B ig difference when you have to buy for a family or bring the kids than when your just buying one for yourself...I have bought 7 games this year thru the discounted thread (thank you CJ and others) if those seats were 38 all the time i think you'd get a better walk up crowd too. Make them the same $$$ as 229 or split the sections row 5 and below 40 above $36. Twice this year we've walked up for a Friday game and both times the cheapest tix was over $70. I believe the lack of affordable game day prices has severly cut the walk up crowd. Better crowds mean more food sold...Better crowds mean a better atmosphere...The better atmospher leads to returning patrons..which leads to a larger fan base and more people to buy tix. Hopefully the playoffs wont be totally out of reach this year cause i'd hate to see 13,500 for the first game against the Panthers and i could see that with $60 uppers and 75 Balconies

One brilliant thing the Devils did this year for STH's, if you pay for all 4 playoff rounds up front your tickets are the same price for the whole playoffs. We jumped all over that, great idea by the Devs.