Why is Brad Larson on the Duck's roster?

I understand the ducks traded for him (part of the Schneids trade) and he was injured before he got here. Since the season has not started yet, and he is having surgery that will force him to be out for 6 weeks how did he pass the team physical? If he did not pass the physical then he should not be on the roster or count against the cap until he does. Or am I missing something?

He is probably on IR not LTIR if he is still with the team but he would not count against the 23 man roster - that is if the Ducks roll with a full 23 man roster this season do to the cap crunch

http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/08/ducks-make-final-salary-cap-move/

http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/08/ducks-make-final-salary-cap-move/
That article did not make any sense to me. They bring up a goalie "in lieu of placing left wing Brad Larsen on long-term injured reserve" but still get some cap relief "By having LeNeveu on their opening day roster, the Ducks salary cap hit is $56,673,300, or $26,670 from the salary cap. They can go over the cap by $535,000, minus $26,670."

Can someone please explain that to me?

That article did not make any sense to me. They bring up a goalie "in lieu of placing left wing Brad Larsen on long-term injured reserve" but still get some cap relief "By having LeNeveu on their opening day roster, the Ducks salary cap hit is $56,673,300, or $26,670 from the salary cap. They can go over the cap by $535,000, minus $26,670."

Can someone please explain that to me?
It doesn't make any sense to me. I looked at my spreadsheet, and it seems like the 27k under the cap is right. So the numbers all add up.

But I still don't see how that helps us. Larsen must be on IR at least, if not LTIR, because the team has 24 players now.

The article is correct in that if Larsen was on LTIR, the team could go to cap max + 535 - 27k.

But I don't see how that helps in any way. They could only do it while Larsen is injured. I don't believe that the 508k or whatever gets saved if they don't use it (ie it's not cap savings that can be eventually cashed in for QP). But then I'm not really sure how LTIR works, so whatever.

But the article says they're NOT putting him on LTIR, and then it really doesn't make any sense. They're also saying that LeNeveu will be kicked down today to the AHL, so why would that help us any? As far as I can tell, all it does is mean we didn't get any cap savings today, when we could have had 600k/186 (number of days this season) with LeNeveu down.

As to your original question, I don't really know. But the physical tends to be pretty easy to pass. So he may have passed it. The other thing is, maybe passing the physical is optional, and the Ducks took Larsen anyways so as to not invalidate the entire trade. I'm sure they'd rather have Larsen than Schneider.

The article is correct in that if Larsen was on LTIR, the team could go to cap max + 535 - 27k.

But I don't see how that helps in any way. They could only do it while Larsen is injured. I don't believe that the 508k or whatever gets saved if they don't use it (ie it's not cap savings that can be eventually cashed in for QP). But then I'm not really sure how LTIR works, so whatever.

But the article says they're NOT putting him on LTIR, and then it really doesn't make any sense.


Only thing I can think of is that the author is mistaken and that Larsen will go on LTIR, and that you apparently want to be as close as possible to the cap when you put someone on IR, in order to get that extra cap cushion. It must be so or else why would they have done it?

Only thing I can think of is that the author is mistaken and that Larsen will go on LTIR, and that you apparently want to be as close as possible to the cap when you put someone on IR, in order to get that extra cap cushion. It must be so or else why would they have done it?
Well that's all fine and good. Maybe they'll put him on LTIR and get some extra cap cushion (which I didn't believe would happen, but I'll pretend). But then it says they'll get 508k or so of cap cushion. But in the meantime they'd have lost 600k of cap cushion from LeNeveu.

So how would that help?

On the other hand, I'm not an accountant, so I'm not expecting to be right.

Right, but LeNevue goes away, and - apparently - the cap cushion stays. Maybe it some loophole where whatever your cap status is at the time you put a player on LTIR becomes the number you can exceed. So it's a good idea to pad your roster when guys get injured.

Otherwise there's zero reason to do it.

Right, but LeNevue goes away, and - apparently - the cap cushion stays. Maybe it some loophole where whatever your cap status is at the time you put a player on LTIR becomes the number you can exceed. So it's a good idea to pad your roster when guys get injured.

Otherwise there's zero reason to do it.
Yeah your explanation seems to be the only way it makes any sense. Even though it seems like it shouldn't.

But if the unused cap savings stays (which it didn't seem like it should based on the CBA), AND that the cap number relative to LTIR can stay despite the player being sent back down... well then McNab is a genius.

I blame Bryan Murray.

I blame Bryan Murray.

I blame Bill Murray. For everything.

I blame all Murrays!!!

also,

Hahahaha and obobo are probably right as that is the only way it makes sense.

Booger is never right (e5)