PP Units

How are they looking? Rolston on the point? What about Oduya?

well, ive only seen the elias rolston and gionta line play twice but from what ive seen and heard, they are moving the puck real well getting good shots but just cant seem to bury em, its still early though, hopefully they will work it out

well, ive only seen the elias rolston and gionta line play twice but from what ive seen and heard, they are moving the puck real well getting good shots but just cant seem to bury em, its still early though, hopefully they will work it out

I used to think this was the case every single year (and realize that hockey is the greatest sport in the world from the fact alone that I cannot stop getting excited at every scoring chance!) but last year was different. Even the good chances seemed like they had no hope of getting buried.

This year, I am seeing pucks set up in slots - forwards showing that they're just flat out FAST and leaving pucks where other players can pick them up and be wide open. Yeah I know it's only preseason, but as it's been stated many times on these boards, this year is different. Fo' real. Fans of other teams: Be afraid!

Oh lookie, my O-train has arrived :D

EDIT: Oh and yes, Rolston definitely remembered to bring his cannon on the trip back to NJ. First preseason game you could tell he was shooting - on the radio - before they even announced it.

well, ive only seen the elias rolston and gionta line play twice but from what ive seen and heard, they are moving the puck real well getting good shots but just cant seem to bury em, its still early though, hopefully they will work it out

Not to be a nitpicker, but the actual line is Gionta, Holik and Elias, with Rolston and Defenseman X on the point. Mottau, Salmela (if he makes it, which I hope and think he will) and Martin are likely candidates. I really like having Holik in front of the net, and his faceoffs are key.

Not to be a nitpicker, but the actual line is Gionta, Holik and Elias, with Rolston and Defenseman X on the point. Mottau, Salmela (if he makes it, which I hope and think he will) and Martin are likely candidates. I really like having Holik in front of the net, and his faceoffs are key.
Yeah, and the second unit looks something like

Parise - Zubrus - Zajac
Langenbrunner - Defenseman Y

Yeah, and the second unit looks something like

Parise - Zubrus - Zajac
Langenbrunner - Defenseman Y

Zubrus's faceoffs have seemed to improve recently.


Just as a random note, Zubrus logged 18:10 playing time last night. I know there was a lot of grumbling about Zubrus (and his contract) getting 10-12 minutes per night. Of our players, that was 5th, only behind Salvador (23:01.. also logged a fighting major), Martin (22:33), Greene (19:46), and Parise (18:21). Also, Holik logged 16:43. Salmela had the lowest time of our d-men, with 16:35 (Brookbank had 16:40).

Zubrus's faceoffs have seemed to improve recently.


Just as a random note, Zubrus logged 18:10 playing time last night. I know there was a lot of grumbling about Zubrus (and his contract) getting 10-12 minutes per night. Of our players, that was 5th, only behind Salvador (23:01.. also logged a fighting major), Martin (22:33), Greene (19:46), and Parise (18:21). Also, Holik logged 16:43. Salmela had the lowest time of our d-men, with 16:35 (Brookbank had 16:40).

Yeah, Zubrus got icetime last night, but keep in mind that Pando-Madden-Clarkson didn't play. Pando and Madden are among the ones that get most icetime in NJ. With a full lineup Zubrus doesn't get those minutes.

Where does Oduya fit in here? He looked great towards the end of the year on the PP

Where does Oduya fit in here? He looked great towards the end of the year on the PP

probably second unit

they should look like thos

elias-holik-gionta
martin-rolston

parise-zubrus-zajac
langs-oduya

althogh i think zajac will probably take the faceoff but zubrus will stand in front of the net

probably second unit

they should look like thos

elias-holik-gionta
martin-rolston

parise-zubrus-zajac
langs-oduya

althogh i think zajac will probably take the faceoff but zubrus will stand in front of the net
Oduya could well end up replaced by Salmela.

probably second unit

they should look like thos

elias-holik-gionta
martin-rolston

parise-zubrus-zajac
langs-oduya

althogh i think zajac will probably take the faceoff but zubrus will stand in front of the net

Ok i agree they look good but Holik and Gio do the same thing on the PP. So wouldnt it be better to split them up

Elias - Holik - Zubbie/Langs
Rolston - Martin

Parise - Zajac - Gio
Salmela/Langs - Oduya

I think that works better plus it puts Zubbie and Holik together who from what i hear work well together. I think this is what i would do.

Oduya could well end up replaced by Salmela.

definitley but i think sutter will start with oduya there but im sure if salm plays well he can take over that spot

Ok i agree they look good but Holik and Gio do the same thing on the PP. So wouldnt it be better to split them up

Elias - Holik - Zubbie/Langs
Rolston - Martin

Parise - Zajac - Gio
Salmela/Langs - Oduya

I think that works better plus it puts Zubbie and Holik together who from what i hear work well together. I think this is what i would do.

if your gloing to do that then put parise at RW pp1 and zubrus at lw pp2

but i think bobby being 6-4 230 and gionta being 5-7 170 holik is better suited to be standing in front of the net and gio should be a trigger man

theres also a possibility of playing 5 fwds on the pp with rolston and langs playing the pointmen. atleast thats what they said on the season preview... but then again i dont believe anything steve cangelosi says.

theres also a possibility of playing 5 fwds on the pp with rolston and langs playing the pointmen. atleast thats what they said on the season preview... but then again i dont believe anything steve cangelosi says.
Ugh, we'd have all kinds of issues with shorthanded goals with a 5 forward PP unit.

I like these combinations:

Elias - Zubrus - Gionta
Rolston - Salmela

Parise - Holik - Zajac
Langenbrunner - Martin

Ugh, we'd have all kinds of issues with shorthanded goals with a 5 forward PP unit.

I like these combinations:

Elias - Zubrus - Gionta
Rolston - Salmela

Parise - Holik - Zajac
Langenbrunner - Martin

I like those lines, but either way, our PP looks a hell of a lot year then last year.

Ugh, we'd have all kinds of issues with shorthanded goals with a 5 forward PP unit.

I like these combinations:

Elias - Zubrus - Gionta
Rolston - Salmela

Parise - Holik - Zajac
Langenbrunner - Martin

rolston would play right side d cause its better for a d-d 1 timer

Ugh, we'd have all kinds of issues with shorthanded goals with a 5 forward PP unit.

I like these combinations:

Elias - Zubrus - Gionta
Rolston - Salmela

Parise - Holik - Zajac
Langenbrunner - Martin

Both have garbagemen, big guys in front, and rockets from the point. These look great.

Parise-Elias-Gionta
Langenbrunner-Rolston

Forget defense, that's a money PP

Parise-Elias-Gionta
Langenbrunner-Rolston

Forget defense, that's a money PP

Have we ever tried Parise at the point?

Have we ever tried Parise at the point?

Hes way to good around the net to be put on the point.

Hes way to good around the net to be put on the point.

I know, I'm just curious how he would do.

Parise-Elias-Gionta
Langenbrunner-Rolston ...would be ridiculous though

I know, I'm just curious how he would do.

Since Parise is dynamite wherever you put him, he would probably be very good.

I know, I'm just curious how he would do.

Parise-Elias-Gionta
Langenbrunner-Rolston ...would be ridiculous though

That looks like a PP with like 2 minutes left in the game down a goal.

Then Zubrus is the extra forward. I have alot more confidence in our PP this year.

That looks like a PP with like 2 minutes left in the game down a goal.

Then Zubrus is the extra forward. I have alot more confidence in our PP this year.
If you're 2 minutes down and need a goal, I might put Holik in to guarantee the face-off win.

If you're 2 minutes down and need a goal, I might put Holik in to guarantee the face-off win.

True. Totally missed that one.

Have we ever tried Parise at the point?

no and i hope it stays that way, i think marty has a better slapper than parise, parise needs to be 20ft or closer to score

Have we ever tried Parise at the point?

If people thought Rafalski's shot was weak then they would be grilling Zach if he was ever on the point for sure. Besides, a player like him is great around the net and can also create along the boards. Keep him there.

Elias - Zubrus - Gionta

Martin - Rolston

Parise - Holik <- Zajac/Vrana/Clarkson

Oduya - Langenbrunner

Unit 1:
Elias - Holik - Gionta
Martin - Rolston

Unit 2:
Parise - Zubrus - Zajac
Langenbrunner - Oduya [Salmela]

First off... the new rule (faceoffs automatically occur in the penalty-laded team's zone) directly benefits Holik.

Secondly, who says Langs needs to play the point?

Unit 1:
Elias - Holik - Gionta
Martin - Rolston

Unit 2:
Parise - Zubrus - Langenbrunner
Oduya (Mattau) - Salmela

Mix your Dman however you wish (with Rolston taking first line duties). But we used to keep Langs on the backend cause of his shot. Well we have Rolston for that, and potentially Salmela. I would rather see Langs up front chipping in on garbage goals.

This also works because you can rotate Travis and Zubrus in. I think Zajac needs to prove his PP ability.

Wait, what? We dont have to use Langs on the point anymore? God damn I am happy we have Rolston back. I think Holik would work best on unit 1 with Elias too, but maybe a tad overkill?


Isn't Vrana supposed to be a PP wizard? At least he was in Junior. Maybe he could dish it some on 2nd PP for Parise and Langs. Also, if Sutter goes with his plan of having Mottau on the 1st PP unit (ugh), then at least we would have our two best PP defenders (and Zach's PP goals) from last year on our 2nd unit.

Sure is nice to have forward depth.

First off... the new rule (faceoffs automatically occur in the penalty-laded team's zone) directly benefits Holik.

Secondly, who says Langs needs to play the point?

Unit 1:
Elias - Holik - Gionta
Martin - Rolston

Unit 2:
Parise - Zubrus - Langenbrunner
Oduya (Mattau) - Salmela

Mix your Dman however you wish (with Rolston taking first line duties). But we used to keep Langs on the backend cause of his shot. Well we have Rolston for that, and potentially Salmela. I would rather see Langs up front chipping in on garbage goals.

This also works because you can rotate Travis and Zubrus in. I think Zajac needs to prove his PP ability.

I don't like Oduya or Mottau on the left point. I much rather have Greene there. Oduya always seems to fumble the puck there and then theres a rush past him. Mottau is better on the right point.