Fedorov Is Done As A Devil

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Fedorov done as a Devil

General manager Lou Lamoriello just said that he has given Fedor Fedorov's agent permission to talk to other teams that might be interested in trading for him and the 25-year-old forward will not be play for the Devils. I'll have more on this later, but Lamoriello insisted that it was purely a numbers decision and he had promised Fedorov that if he wasn't one of the team's top 12 forwards, he could seek a deal elsewhere.

If Fedorov can't find a trade, he will probably be placed on waivers.

Also, Nicklas Bergfors, Matt Corrente, Tyler Eckford, Vladimir Zharkov and Scott Clemmensen are now practicing in Lowell, but have not been officially assigned there.

I'll have more on who is still here and who's playing tonight after I'm done in the locker room.

Lamoriello said Barry Tallackson, who had surgery Friday to correct an irregular heartbeat, will be returning to New Jersey "this weekend" and "the doctors have given him the green light to skate and do whatever he needs to do."

Looks like PLLL and Vrana will be on the roster.

**** happens.

Murder-suicide.

What was that about eating crow?!? :sarcasm:

FedEx yourself on outta here buddy...

What was that about eating crow?!? :sarcasm:

FedEx yourself on outta here buddy...

I hope Lou gets a trade offer for him that he can't refuse....and it includes Andy Greene.

HAd to see this coming when Sutter was on him in practice. I had hope that he woud fill a certain role but it looks like the spot is going to Vrana

I hope Lou gets a trade offer for him that he can't refuse....and it includes Andy Greene.

Oh here we go again..

Someone call the whambulance...CJ hurt someone's feelings!

Weeonta is dry, very dry.

I hope Lou gets a trade offer for him that he can't refuse....and it includes Andy Greene.

is getting 2 pretzels and a beer a good deal?

What was that about eating crow?!? :sarcasm:

FedEx yourself on outta here buddy...

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Back to mother russia...

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I'm very happy for Vrana and hope the kid helps the team. Cograts to Salmela as well. I will pray that he can help our defense. As for Fedor, we all saw the writing on the wall, no bigge.

And I have a feeling that Vrana will get a shot with Pando and Madden.

Knew it was coming... He just didn't hustle like Sutter wanted him to. I believe its down to Vrana and Pelley. Bergfors and Salmela is prob bound for Lowell.

Knew it was coming... He just didn't hustle like Sutter wanted him to. I believe its down to Vrana and Pelley. Bergfors and Salmela is prob bound for Lowell.

Well according to that article, Bergfors is already in Lowell practicing, but hasn't been assigned there....yet!

Good. I wasn't impressed with Fedorov at all. There's a reason why he's never made it in the NHL.

Well according to that article, Bergfors is already in Lowell practicing, but hasn't been assigned there....yet!

Yeah, I just read that. If you read what I wrote yesterday on TG's blog you'll see my breakdown of who's probably gonna stay and who's gonna go...

Well according to that article, Bergfors is already in Lowell practicing, but hasn't been assigned there....yet!

I missed that. Ugh today is the worst day ever. I'm going to go watch videos of The Dion® leveling people...

Fedor, we all saw the writing on the wall, no bigge.

It was pretty obvious based on Sutter's comments, but it's still a wasted opportunity. I'd be shocked if they can "trade" him, so he'll likely go on waivers. Too bad he wouldnt accept going to Lowell.

I missed that. Ugh today is the worst day ever. I'm going to go watch videos of The Dion® leveling people...

Hahaha...sorry buddy!!

It was pretty obvious based on Sutter's comments, but it's still a wasted opportunity. I'd be shocked if they can "trade" him, so he'll likely go on waivers. Too bad he wouldnt accept going to Lowell.

I think the Caps pick him up on waivers. They have a knack for taking our under performing, soft Russian forwards and making them somewhat effective.

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I think the Caps pick him up on waivers. They have a knack for taking our under performing, soft Russian forwards and making them somewhat effective.

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You know that would probably make Sergei happy. With his skills he'd be perfect in their system too.

I think the Caps pick him up on waivers.


He would fit in on a 4th line or as a healthy extra, plus the marketing value of the brothers aspect would pay for his contract.

Not surprised...just didn't have that Devil character in him...

I only saw a tiny bit of him against the Rangers and he was alright but he clearly didn't do anything that would bump one of the current roster players out of a spot.

oh well. they gave him a shot and def the ice time to show what he could do.

Lets face it Federov wasn't (and isn't) the world-beater some would have wanted him to be. He didn't light the lamp and didn't play to the skill that he supposedly has. And lighting the lamp isnt everything to impress a coach or staff, but did he really do anything on the ice to deserve his number 25 jersey ?

That's a shame. Looks like Vrana's going to make it, which is good news.

Seriously, who didn't see this happening?? I'm very happy since there was no room for him. I think it will be Vrana and Rupp switching as the extra forwards throughout the year. If we could work out a trade, that would be sweet.

I think it will be Vrana and Rupp switching as the extra forwards throughout the year.

I suppose if you played Rupp against the larger teams with size, and then Vrana for extra offensive power against the smaller teams that that platoon could work nicely.

This isn't very surprising. Lou took a gamble that on his skill (something we don't have) and hoped that his stint in Russia gave him some more heart. He's only signed for 500K so it doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is that we went into camp with 15 forwards and 7 defensemen that would have to pass through waivers if they didn't make the team. Our forwards and defense are a complete logjam. At least our forwards have good depth while our defense has "barely hanging on in the NHL" depth. I kind of wish they gave Vrana a shot tonight to play on a scoring line, just as an experiment. I can't see him being that valuable playing with Pelley and PLLL.

Now this free's up No# 25 for PLLL to wear

What I really don't get is why Pelly is in the NHL. I don't like his style for some reason.

I'd rather see Fedorov then Pelly...But neither really has done anything. I think Rupp could be good now. I think the whole team wasn't very 'centered' last year - focused is probably better to describe it. Rupp was one of those less focused players I think.

I hope Lou gets a trade offer for him that he can't refuse....and it includes Andy Greene.

I know you are just saying this to piss of CJ....but my god that would be awesome:yo:

get greene the **** out of here so salmela can play.

I know you are just saying this to piss of CJ....but my god that would be awesome:yo:

get greene the **** out of here so salmela can play.

Greene hasn't looked bad, so relax there buddy!

What I really don't get is why Pelly is in the NHL. I don't like his style for some reason.

I'd rather see Fedorov then Pelly...But neither really has done anything. I think Rupp could be good now. I think the whole team wasn't very 'centered' last year - focused is probably better to describe it. Rupp was one of those less focused players I think.

yeah I would rather see a lazy Federov show off his skill once in awhile then a random dude named Pelley doing next to nothing all day.

Greene hasn't looked bad, so relax there buddy!

ok. get either greene or brookbank out of here so salmela can play.

and brookbank had a much better year than greene last year. sooo greene it is.:nod:

ok. get either greene or brookbank out of here so salmela can play.

and brookbank had a much better year than greene last year. sooo greene it is.:nod:


Brookbank SUCKS!! Have you read anything this preseason or you a live in the past type guy?

Greene has looked excellent out there and Sutter actually praised him.

Brookbank out, Greene in!

Brookbank SUCKS!! Have you read anything this preseason or you a live in the past type guy?

Greene has looked excellent out there and Sutter actually praised him.

Brookbank out, Greene in!

....greene has impressed me this preseason so far.

brokeback hasnt ever impressed me.

FF should be thankful that someone out here in the NHL was willing to give him a look. Of which, wasn't bad, but not great either.

If he gets waived, he should pack it up & take that job opening over at White Rose. He needs to be in a system...and after the Devils, their system rules!!!

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...2 cheese, fries & a coke please!!!!

What I really don't get is why Pelly is in the NHL. I don't like his style for some reason.

I'd rather see Fedorov then Pelly...But neither really has done anything. I think Rupp could be good now. I think the whole team wasn't very 'centered' last year - focused is probably better to describe it. Rupp was one of those less focused players I think.

Pelley is pretty solid defensively & a good fill in if players like Madden, Pandolfo or Holik are out injured. I believe TG also said he's signed to a two way contract this season, so there's a good chance he'll spend considerable time in Lowell this season & he's not a bad candidate to keep as a spare forward (healthy scratch). Also sounds like Pelley has worked hard this offseason to improve his game & though he wasn't that spectacular last season, he was also just a rookie that came out of nowhere. With Holik & Rolston added this offseason & nobody leaving, there's just not much of a spot for Pelley this season but he could grab a spot currently occupied by Holik or Rupp once their contracts expire next year.

Fedorov wasn't willing to accept anything outside of being a top 12 forward, playing on a regular basis so that's why he'll be gone & Pelley is sticking around.

Brookbank SUCKS!! Have you read anything this preseason or you a live in the past type guy?

Greene has looked excellent out there and Sutter actually praised him.

Brookbank out, Greene in!

ok well whatever...like i said...brookbank OR greene out....

either way they both won't play because greene will just be #7 if he stays.

Brookbank SUCKS!! Have you read anything this preseason or you a live in the past type guy?

Greene has looked excellent out there and Sutter actually praised him.

Brookbank out, Greene in!

I think Greene is going to bounce back well this season & have the type of year we were expecting out of him at the start of last year. Brookbank is pretty much useless, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay up as the 7th d-man, while Salmela goes down to Lowell for a while to get some playing time & better used to playing on a North American rink.

Then again, maybe Sutter keeps him up & rotates guys in & out of the lineup like last season, but I don't see that happening initially. I think Greene has been good enough this preseason to get some regular playing time.

what we really need to do is get 2 good defenseman. and get rid of greene brookbank, salmela and mottau

what we really need to do is get 2 good defenseman. and get rid of greene brookbank, salmela and mottau

Really? Is that what you really think? :sarcasm:

Gee...you're so smart! :shakehead

The games i saw of Fedorov i thought he didn't look that bad.

what we really need to do is get 2 good defenseman. and get rid of greene brookbank, and mottau
Fixed.

The games i saw of Fedorov i thought he didn't look that bad.and Nedved looked great for the Rags and look where it got him.

what we really need to do is get 2 good defenseman. and get rid of greene brookbank, salmela and mottau

Salmela, Greene and Mottau are good.

ok. get either greene or brookbank out of here so salmela can play.

Amen.

Step 1 - Send Brookbank to Lowell
Step 1A - Send Salmela to Lowell for 5 games to get more familiar with the N.A. rink
Step 2 - Recall Salmela to the Devils after 5 AHL games
Step 3 - Greene is a healthy scratch so Salmela can play in the top-6

Salmela has done pretty well but he is quickly becoming overrated. I don't think he's been anything spectacular but he does have a hard shot, and has been better than Corrente and Eckford. Brookbank on the other hand is/was/and will always be awful. He was atrocious against the Caps, despite his assist.

Brookbank on the other hand is/was/and will always be awful.
People forget he was waived by Colombus and none of the 20 or so teams with higher waiver priority picked him up.

Im not surprised he is gone. I think Vrana will make the team, and Bergfors will play in Lowell this year.

Oh well.

Well, there goes that prediction of mine. I said he'd make the team and have a good year.

It was pretty obvious based on Sutter's comments, but it's still a wasted opportunity. I'd be shocked if they can "trade" him, so he'll likely go on waivers. Too bad he wouldnt accept going to Lowell.

I agree with you 100%. He signed a deal to play in THE NHL, but going down to Lowell and hustling down there would have gotten him a call-up eventually.

As for Bergfors, I want to see him dominate at Lowell and prove he can stay healthy and score on a regular basis. Otherwise, he is trade bait come deadline time.

BTW, sorry to go off topic, but Sergei Gonchar may be out for the season. What do you think Pittsburgh will do? Too late for them to get Matheiu Schneider. Someone can start a new thread about this if they want to on our board or another board.

I will throw this out: Andy Greene and Fedor Fedorov to Pittsburgh for a pick or a prospect. Greene cannot replace Gonchar, but he can pick up the slack. And Fedorov could be a good fit playing with Malkin on occasion. Just a thought. Maybe not a good one, but a thought. LOL

Later... :D

Well, there goes that prediction of mine. I said he'd make the team and have a good year.

You are the eternal optimist DevilsFan38. I am just the opposite.

Stay positive as being negative is no fun. Trust me!!! :(

I will throw this out: Andy Greene and Fedor Fedorov to Pittsburgh for a pick or a prospect. Greene cannot replace Gonchar, but he can pick up the slack.


I dont think Pittsburgh has any use for Fedorov, and replacing Gonchar with Greene is like trying to heal a 10 gauge shotgun blast wound with a Flintstones band-aid.

Im not surprised he is gone. I think Vrana will make the team, and Bergfors will play in Lowell this year.

I hope he gets a midseason call up.

Well, there goes that prediction of mine. I said he'd make the team and have a good year.

Well, Lou said "he's done nothing wrong". Like crash said, we had a logjam up front before training camp even got underway. His chances weren't too high to begin with. I'm sure Lou would have kept him if possible, I mean he just hasn't been able to let go of turds lately *cough*mottaubrookbank*cough*, but he'd have to lose at least one player to make that happen, and he probably didn't think it was worth it.

Also, I honestly think the emergence of PLLL put the nail in the coffin for FedFed. Sutter loves him, and Dano was on NHL Live today talking about how he's got size and intelligence. He's not like Cam, he's not going to go out there and just drop the gloves with anyone no matter what the circumstance. He chooses his fights wisely, and he's not a total liability when he's playing. He's not going to score for you, but the team isn't going to be shorthanded while he's out there either. And to top things off, he's a legit heavy weight. Cam was not a legit heavy weight, at under 6' he was too short. He struggled against guys taller then him, even though he had the strength to match up with them.

Fedfed
Greene
Minnesotas 3rd round pick

for

Goligoski
6th round pick

Amen.

Step 1 - Send Brookbank to Lowell
Step 1A - Send Salmela to Lowell for 5 games to get more familiar with the N.A. rink
Step 2 - Recall Salmela to the Devils after 5 AHL games
Step 3 - Greene is a healthy scratch so Salmela can play in the top-6

or just get mattau out of the lineup so greene and salmela can play

or just get mattau out of the lineup so greene and salmela can play

Mottau can play pretty well in his own end. Apart from the terrible +/-.

Don't get me wrong, it would be great if either of those guys could step up and push Mikey down the chart, but I just don't see it happening yet.

No no no. You're all wrong.

1) Brian Gionta
Matt Halischuk
David Clarkson
Andy Greene
Conditional 1st round pick

for

Bouwmeester

Cap: +$563,000 FLA/-$563,000 NJD

2) Waive Brookbank, Fed Fed

3) Sexy....

Elias-Rolston-Bergfors
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Vrana
Leblond-Holik-Zubrus
Rupp

Martin-Bouwmeester
Oduya-Salvador
White-Salmela
Mottau

maybe I can get my wish and we can sign Friesen - I know I know nobody agrees

No no no. You're all wrong.

1) Brian Gionta
Matt Halischuk
David Clarkson
Andy Greene
Conditional 1st round pick

for

Bouwmeester

Cap: +$563,000 FLA/-$563,000 NJD


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I agree with you 100%. He signed a deal to play in THE NHL, but going down to Lowell and hustling down there would have gotten him a call-up eventually.

Problem is he could be grabbed by another team when the Devils try to recall him & they'd be on the hook for half of his salary. $250K isn't a lot of cap space, but I doubt Lou wants to use it on a guy playing somewhere else.

Amen.

Step 1 - Send Brookbank to Lowell
Step 1A - Send Salmela to Lowell for 5 games to get more familiar with the N.A. rink
Step 2 - Recall Salmela to the Devils after 5 AHL games
Step 3 - Greene is a healthy scratch so Salmela can play in the top-6

The problem with that is that Salmela would have to go through waivers too I believe. Even though he has a 2 way contract he is over the age required or some such.

He'll probably be claimed on the way back up.

The problem with that is that Salmela would have to go through waivers too I believe. Even though he has a 2 way contract he is over the age required or some such.

He'll probably be claimed on the way back up.


I beleive TG said Salmela can be sent down since this is his first NHL contract.

Fedfed
Greene
Minnesotas 3rd round pick

for

Goligoski
6th round pick

Goligoski is Penguins property I thought?

Goligoski is Penguins property I thought?

He is...



Fedfed
Greene
Minnesotas 3rd round pick

for

Goligoski
6th round pick


I like that, but I very very very highly doubt any Pens fans would agree.

Stop it, Goligoski isn't going anywhere.

Also, am I the only one here who gets sick to his/her stomach when I think about PLLL making the team?

Also, am I the only one here who gets sick to his/her stomach when I think about PLLL making the team?

Nope. He won't...not as a regular at least I hope.

Stop it, Goligoski isn't going anywhere.

Also, am I the only one here who gets sick to his/her stomach when I think about PLLL making the team?
I have no problem if him and Rupp are reserve forwards.

Who said Leblond was going to make the team? Yes sir

I have no problem if him and Rupp are reserve forwards.
Okay let's look at the locks to make the team:
Elias Rolston Gionta
Parise Zajac Langenbrunner
Pandolfo Madden Clarkson
Holik Zubrus

That's 11 right there, then we have:
Rupp
Pelley
Vrana
PLLL

Assuming we don't carry 8 defensemen (which is still a possibility) do you really think PLLL fits in above any of those three? This is the deepest forward lineup we've had since 2001 and there is no way a useless fighter is cracking the lineup. People here seem to still be missing Cam and see PLLL as a replacement. The thing is we didn't need Cam back then and we sure as hell don't need to replace him.

Fixed.

well yeah I was gonna say that but people would just flip out again.

Assuming we don't carry 8 defensemen (which is still a possibility) do you really think PLLL fits in above any of those three? This is the deepest forward lineup we've had since 2001 and there is no way a useless fighter is cracking the lineup. People here seem to still be missing Cam and see PLLL as a replacement. The thing is we didn't need Cam back then and we sure as hell don't need to replace him.

Indeed - and don't be surprised to see Greene/Brookbank fight game in and game out for the final slot, and then when/IF there is an injury/illness in the top 5 you see Salmela come up and take that new opening while Greene & Brookbank still flip a coin for the 6th. It's simply a numbers issue and I have the feeling tonight's game against the Isles will be pivotal to whether Salmela gets the call up to leap-frog the boys with a 1 way contract.

Oh, and yeah - no way PLLL stays up.

Stop it, Goligoski isn't going anywhere.

Also, am I the only one here who gets sick to his/her stomach when I think about PLLL making the team?

hes worse than janssen

He is...



Fedfed
Greene
Minnesotas 3rd round pick

for

Goligoski
6th round pick


I like that, but I very very very highly doubt any Pens fans would agree.

Yeah, garbage for a top defensive prospect won't happen.

Yes! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out FedFed! Lou needs to stop trying to fix Russian project players.

hes worse than janssen

I don't know about that comment...at least PLLL or whatever his shortened name is can stand on his skates decently. He's a step up from Janssen IMO...but that's not saying much at all.

Yes! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out FedFed! Lou needs to stop trying to fix Russian project players.

There is a slight chance that "seeking permission to talk to other teams" is just a bluff and that he could report to Lowell. I'm not saying it's a very big chance at all, but just saying, you never know. I hope that happens.

There is a slight chance that "seeking permission to talk to other teams" is just a bluff and that he could report to Lowell. I'm not saying it's a very big chance at all, but just saying, you never know. I hope that happens.

Im kinda hoping we can get a draft pick for him, very late one, but still, you never know.

Still thought he would play over Rupp.