Bobby Ryan

How does he play so far this year? Does he have a guarenteed spot on the top 6 at this point? thx

Hi fellow habs fan!

I asked the same question a couple of day ago on this board...
Apparently Bobby Ryan has been dominant this preseason on a line with Getzlaf and Perry.

Also, the general consensus is that with the return of Selanne the Ducks are around 1,6 millions over the cap and the easiest way to fit under would be to send Ryan in the AHL. However with his recent performance, they might try to trade someone like Marchant or waive a couple of fourth liners.

As for me, I wish they keep Ryan 'cause he is in my one-year pool... And I think the Ducks need an offensive-minded forward in their line-up to complete their top 6... Ryan is unarguably the best option:
*Ryan*-Getzlaf-Perry
Kunitz-Morrisson-Selanne

Hi fellow habs fan!

I asked the same question a couple of day ago on this board...
Apparently Bobby Ryan has been dominant this preseason on a line with Getzlaf and Perry.

Also, the general consensus is that with the return of Selanne the Ducks are around 1,6 millions over the cap and the easiest way to fit under would be to send Ryan in the AHL. However with his recent performance, they might try to trade someone like Marchant or waive a couple of fourth liners.

As for me, I wish they keep Ryan 'cause he is in my one-year pool... And I think the Ducks need an offensive-minded forward in their line-up to complete their top 6... Ryan is unarguably the best option:
*Ryan*-Getzlaf-Perry
Kunitz-Morrisson-Selanne

Thank you! Im also trying to figure if I take Ryan or not in my hockey pool.. I guess we will have the answer in the next few days..

Hi fellow habs fan!

I asked the same question a couple of day ago on this board...
Apparently Bobby Ryan has been dominant this preseason on a line with Getzlaf and Perry.

Also, the general consensus is that with the return of Selanne the Ducks are around 1,6 millions over the cap and the easiest way to fit under would be to send Ryan in the AHL. However with his recent performance, they might try to trade someone like Marchant or waive a couple of fourth liners.

As for me, I wish they keep Ryan 'cause he is in my one-year pool... And I think the Ducks need an offensive-minded forward in their line-up to complete their top 6... Ryan is unarguably the best option:
*Ryan*-Getzlaf-Perry
Kunitz-Morrisson-Selanne

That pretty much sums it all up.:)

Hi fellow habs fan!

I asked the same question a couple of day ago on this board...
Apparently Bobby Ryan has been dominant this preseason on a line with Getzlaf and Perry.

Also, the general consensus is that with the return of Selanne the Ducks are around 1,6 millions over the cap and the easiest way to fit under would be to send Ryan in the AHL. However with his recent performance, they might try to trade someone like Marchant or waive a couple of fourth liners.

As for me, I wish they keep Ryan 'cause he is in my one-year pool... And I think the Ducks need an offensive-minded forward in their line-up to complete their top 6... Ryan is unarguably the best option:
*Ryan*-Getzlaf-Perry
Kunitz-Morrisson-Selanne

This pretty much sums it up. Basicly the only reason that Ryan would be sent down this year, is the same reason he was sent down last year, because of cap reasons. Quite honestly I don't think he goes down unless he just absolutely blows it, and Lindstrom looks much better, however the chances of that happening are very slim IMO. Personally I think the Ducks will just let a couple of 4th liners go. My projected lineup:

Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
Kunitz-Morrison-Selanne
Moen-Pahlsson-R.Niedermayer
Carter-Marchant-Sutherby/Parros/May

S.Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-O'Donnell
Huskins-Montador/Klee

Jiggy
Hiller

That's 23 skaters. Can anyone tell me if this lineup would be under the cap? If not would waiving May do the trick? Honestly I think he is gone, unless the team is able to deal Marchant, which I doubt happens. Although I guess there is still the chance that one of the defensemen could be moved.

This pretty much sums it up. Basicly the only reason that Ryan would be sent down this year, is the same reason he was sent down last year, because of cap reasons. Quite honestly I don't think he goes down unless he just absolutely blows it, and Lindstrom looks much better, however the chances of that happening are very slim IMO. Personally I think the Ducks will just let a couple of 4th liners go. My projected lineup:

Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
Kunitz-Morrison-Selanne
Moen-Pahlsson-R.Niedermayer
Carter-Marchant-Sutherby/Parros/May

S.Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-O'Donnell
Huskins-Montador/Klee

Jiggy
Hiller

That's 23 skaters. Can anyone tell me if this lineup would be under the cap? If not would waiving May do the trick? Honestly I think he is gone, unless the team is able to deal Marchant, which I doubt happens. Although I guess there is still the chance that one of the defensemen could be moved.

By my maths that line up comes to 56.96 BUT that is using Ryan as a cap hit of 1.922 whereas some places are quoting it as quoting it at around 1.7 (i seem to remember obobo mentioning it around the schnieder trade) which would take us just over the cap but literally only 10's of k's over

May's cap hit is only 600k. Waiving him doesn't solve many problems as we would still have to call someone up at a minimum of 450k, unless you would go with a 22 man roster?

Edit: Completely missed the bertuzzi buyout from my calculations. We are likely over by about 1.35 then with that line-up that was suggested. Damn bertuzzi!

May's cap hit is only 600k. Waiving him doesn't solve many problems as we would still have to call someone up at a minimum of 450k, unless you would go with a 22 man roster?

I would expect them to use a 22 man roster.

Well with O'D off the books what's the cap situation look like now?

According to Adam Brady, we are still 285k over the cap.

http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=12887

According to Adam Brady, we are still 285k over the cap.

http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=12887

Which players does this include though? Can anyone give a list?

Which players does this include though? Can anyone give a list?

nhlscap has about the same number so I assume this is the roster he's basing it on:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=ANA

Which players does this include though? Can anyone give a list?
I don't have my spreadsheet, it's on the other computer. But right now we still have 14 forwards on 1-way contracts, not including Ryan. So we should be easily under just by cutting down to a 22-23 man roster.

When looking at NHLSCAP, note that the Ducks say Ryan's hit is only 1.7467, not 1.921667 that is listed. So subtract accordingly.

Edit: interestingly, according to the Ducks' earlier number they gave out, we should be under cap now. They said we were 1.225 over the cap, and moving OD's 1.25 should clear us.

Edit: interestingly, according to the Ducks' earlier number they gave out, we should be under cap now. They said we were 1.225 over the cap, and moving OD's 1.25 should clear us.

Lets not forget, we need 7 defensemen and if either Festerling or Evans make it, we need to clear another 500k. I am sure the Ducks are going with 13 forwards because Klee can play the forward position if needed.

If we trade/waive Sutherby, it would solve our problem. Yes, I called it.

Lets not forget, we need 7 defensemen and if either Festerling or Evans make it, we need to clear another 500k. I am sure the Ducks are going with 13 forwards because Klee can play the forward position if needed.

If we trade/waive Sutherby, it would solve our problem. Yes, I called it.

Didn't we resign him this offseason?

I think either May or Moen goes.

I like Moen, Marchant, but we really could use some youngsters on the 4th line.

May adds something intangible to this team, and I would hate to see him go. A healthy May adds so much energy, but at the same time, he is fairly responsible. I'd rather ditch Marchant (obviously) in favor of Carter, if possible.

Didn't we resign him this offseason?

I think either May or Moen goes.

Moen is too valuable on the third line. Burke is too loyal to May to rid himself. Sutherby OTOH, hasn't scored a goal for Anaheim in 40 something games.

Moen is too valuable on the third line. Burke is too loyal to May to rid himself. Sutherby OTOH, hasn't scored a goal for Anaheim in 40 something games.

Sutherby was robbed about a dozen times last year, I think he'll have a much better season this year.

Moen is too valuable on the third line. Burke is too loyal to May to rid himself. Sutherby OTOH, hasn't scored a goal for Anaheim in 40 something games.

Sutherby is a Burke guy, traded a high pick to get him and then signed him for more money than is justified.

Both May and Larsen are as good as gone.

I don't see May being traded, he makes hardly anything and even though he's an older player what he brings to the team for his pricetag is awesome. IMO he's the best energy player we have.

I don't see May being traded, he makes hardly anything and even though he's an older player what he brings to the team for his pricetag is awesome. IMO he's the best energy player we have.

I don't think May is traded, he'll get sent to Iowa if he clears waivers and reports. There is just no room for him unless Marchant is traded and I don't see that happening because of Todd's cap hit.

Carter - Marchant - Sutherby/Parros is an excellent 4th line.

Don't forget that Al Coates is now an advisor to Cliff Fletcher with the Leafs. Coates was the wet nurse for the Portland Pirates last season and followed the team right to the end of the playoffs last spring. No one in the Ducks organization had a clearer understanding of what Ryan was capable of last spring. Coates also knows precisely how the Ducks feel about Ryan and any misgivings about Bobby are surely to be exploited by Coates.

What is this the fourth or fifth attempt by an NHL team to take Ryan off the Ducks hands? Regardless, the Ducks have created a slippery slope with the cap hit that Ryan possesses. To stay under the cap they might have to demote Ryan which to me is inane. Ryan should have been in the NHL all of last season getting prepped for this season. Getzlaf and Perry did their time in the AHL and were promoted (along with Penner) as a result. There's a saying about playing in the NHL- you cannot get better unless you play in the NHL and it takes about a minimum of 40 games to get a level of comfort.

Bobby Ryan cannot feel confident in the Ducks about all of these trade rumors- true or manufactured; the kid's going to be 22 next March and still he has no level of security as a #2 overall pick. Burke has kind of made a mess of this situation if you ask me.

Don't forget that Al Coates is now an advisor to Cliff Fletcher with the Leafs. Coates was the wet nurse for the Portland Pirates last season and followed the team right to the end of the playoffs last spring. No one in the Ducks organization had a clearer understanding of what Ryan was capable of last spring. Coates also knows precisely how the Ducks feel about Ryan and any misgivings about Bobby are surely to be exploited by Coates.

What is this the fourth or fifth attempt by an NHL team to take Ryan off the Ducks hands? Regardless, the Ducks have created a slippery slope with the cap hit that Ryan possesses. To stay under the cap they might have to demote Ryan which to me is inane. Ryan should have been in the NHL all of last season getting prepped for this season. Getzlaf and Perry did their time in the AHL and were promoted (along with Penner) as a result. There's a saying about playing in the NHL- you cannot get better unless you play in the NHL and it takes about a minimum of 40 games to get a level of comfort.

Bobby Ryan cannot feel confident in the Ducks about all of these trade rumors- true or manufactured; the kid's going to be 22 next March and still he has no level of security as a #2 overall pick. Burke has kind of made a mess of this situation if you ask me.

Not really. Bobby knows if he plays like he can that he'll stick around regardless of the cap situation which isn't so bad with OD traded. I can go without one of our extra grinders to keep Bobby. Because when it comes down to it who will be more important this season for the Ducks: Bobby Ryan or Brad Larsen? Not hard a hard choice to make.

I'm not sure why Ryan wouldn't be confident. Burke has mentioned the rumors only insofar as to make the point that he's not trading Ryan. The Ducks have gone through some painful machinations to keep this kid on the roster.

But even so, at this point, there should be pressure on Ryan to emerge.

So wait. Coates knows and will exploit any misgivings the Ducks might have about Ryan. But he still got Toronto to make a "strong offer." Doesn't that mean that he must also really like Ryan as a prospect? And that he's privy to how much the Ducks must really like Ryan?

And shouldn't this then be good to Ryan, to emphasize that the Ducks DO like him, and are making all sorts of moves (some painful ones) to fit him in?

Who is this Bobby Ryan character? I know there's some dude named Questionable Pick who's having a strong camp and might make the team ...