Will Elias return to his old form?

Hey he looks like the Elias of old being back on the wing. I think he's a healthy and happy camper now with coach Sutter!

I think he will lead the team in terms of points, but he wont return to A-line form. That's too much to hope for, sadly.

My predictions: 60-70 points and a boatload of fans that will still complain about his contract (Muttley).

Somewhere between.

I picked the 2nd option because I want Elias to prove me wrong.

I hope so, he was amazing on May at ice hockey world championship (7GP 6G 3A) :handclap: I think he'll have the same form ... :)

I picked the 2nd option because I want Elias to prove me wrong.

I get it, the old reverse psychologically trick.

I picked the first option, but feel he'll fall short points-wise. I think he'll put up around 70 points (30g, 40a)... but his overall play will impress and that line will be solid throughout the season. I think he'll have a decent +/- as well. I think he'll be +20 this year

He was impressive on Saturday. Granted the Rangers looked like they were mailing it in, but Elias looked very good.

I think he'll lead the team in points, as well. But it'll be somewhere in the high 60s or low 70s.

I get it, the old reverse psychologically trick.

You got it!

80 Points.

I won't vote for either options. I'm guessing 30+40-ish.

I won't vote for either options. I'm guessing 30+40-ish.
Very unlikely.

I would go with mid-70s.

I'm gonna go with 31 + 44 and 75 points for Patty this year.

Very unlikely.

Really?

32 goals, 47 assists. 79 points in 77 games.

I'm very optimistic about him this season.

Somewhere between.

That one.

It should have been a 3rd option on the poll.

I'm gonna go with 31 + 44 and 75 points for Patty this year.

Sounds good. Second the motion.

that top line looks great, gionta will hit 35 goals and elias will hit the 80s in points

Really?
Why would his point totals drop so dramatically, to the point where he's only putting up one point ever two games? I don't see it happening.

Somewhere between.

This is my prediction too, so I didnt vote.

Somewhere between.

yea i really didnt know where to vote because if he plays 80 games or so he will probably get atleast 70pts

Why would his point totals drop so dramatically, to the point where he's only putting up one point ever two games? I don't see it happening.

i think he means 30(goals)+40(assists)

I'm thinking 70-75 points.

i think he means 30(goals)+40(assists)
Oh.

I'm not so quick.

Oh.

I'm not so quick.

Yes, that's what I meant. 30 goals, 40 assists. ;)

Yes, that's what I meant. 30 goals, 40 assists. ;)

Yeah, because he's really going to score less than 40 points...

Get real buddy.

I'll go with the crowd and say he ends up with around 70-75 points.

If that line plays anything like they did against the Rangers somewhat consistantly, 80+ points easily...seriously did remind me of the A-Line. Of course it was just preseason, and I never like to gauge us by how we do against them.

I really dont think Elias will score 30 goals this year....

20g-40a-60pts at best.

I really dont think Elias will score 30 goals this year....

20g-40a-60pts at best.

Thats a pretty bold prediction.

I'm predicting 32g, 44a, for 76p.

I'm predicting 35G 34A for 69 points. Grrrr.

I think a lot of you are forgetting that Elias hasn't played a full season since before the lock out.

He's got atleast one more good season in him me thinks. 38g 45a

Thats a pretty bold prediction.

I hope I'm proven very, very wrong

I'm thinking something like 28 goals, 48 assists for 76 points.

that top line looks great, gionta will hit 35 goals and elias will hit the 80s in points

I think that is a safe bet. I really feel Patty will have 80 points, minimum.

I really dont think Elias will score 30 goals this year....

20g-40a-60pts at best.

I'm thinking something like 28 goals, 48 assists for 76 points.

I agree with these numbers as these are very fair & sensible predictions.

For a player to score 20-25 goals/40-45 assists/for 60-65 points, a cap hit of $6 million in this current NHL circa 2008 (where 2 smallish centers can take up $14 million of cap space, on one team, and have very similar stats) is very acceptable, not to mention he gives us one intangible that is priceless.

My stalker pointed out above that I complained about Elias' contract, but as I've stated a billion times since April's playoff debacle against the NYR, Patrik Elias' contract is now tame compared to many other horrendous contracts handed out since 2006 and more importantly, he is the only Devil player that can score on Henrik Lundqvist.

Who knows? Alot depends too, if we are playing the "system" or not this season. From what I've seen in camp, the answer looks to be "yes'. If it is yes, it's going to keep stats down.

And whether or not we can maintain puck possession and get turnovers and cause all those nice situations that allow scoring to take place. Also depends how much he wants it, I don't know that Patty, at this stage of his career, is the kind of player that is going to have 100% of his ability on a particular given night.

I think what I've seen of Parise so far in these couple of games, his garbagemanning is in top form, if he can consistantly score away from the net, he might be the one to put up the large numbers.

Who knows? Alot depends too, if we are playing the "system" or not this season. From what I've seen in camp, the answer looks to be "yes'. If it is yes, it's going to keep stats down.

And whether or not we can maintain puck possession and get turnovers and cause all those nice situations that allow scoring to take place. Also depends how much he wants it, I don't know that Patty, at this stage of his career, is the kind of player that is going to have 100% of his ability on a particular given night.

I think what I've seen of Parise so far in these couple of games, his garbagemanning is in top form, if he can consistantly score away from the net, he might be the one to put up the large numbers.
Hopefully they'll be competing for top marks all season long.

I think that with Patty's play in the playoffs, in the World championships (6g in 7 games) and now in the pre-season, it proves he still has it.

We all knew he never lost it anyway.

Total points aside. I really do expect Patty to return to his old form and be a clutch player.

60 points, 70 points, 100 points...At the end of the day who cares what the numbers are, if Patty scores those game winners both on regular season and playoffs? While his totals have been on a bit of a downfall but he´s still been able to score some important goals or assisted them. I guess everyone acknowledges this, but had to say it out loud.

Of course I´d like Patty to score 30+ goals and 50+ assists, but I´m dead happy if he can play a full campaign this year and keep on scoring goals that matter. I´d say 75-80 points with some 30 goals and 50 assists isn´t out of reach.

164 points.

164 points.

Now that's bold:)

that includes playoffs though.

ok - a real rookie here - first timer - so please be nice
as for Elias I wouldnt getto carried away with the preseason - let hope for 25-30 goals

ok - a real rookie here - first timer - so please be nice
as for Elias I wouldnt getto carried away with the preseason - let hope for 25-30 goals

I'd love to see him crack 30, and I know he can put up at least 40 assists on that line.

ok - a real rookie here - first timer - so please be nice
as for Elias I wouldnt getto carried away with the preseason - let hope for 25-30 goals

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I would take 40 helpers in a second from him.... Langs is the guy we need to step up - I would take away the C - and give it to Pando

thanks for the warm welcome - hopefully everyone onthis sites hates that Trash team from 34th street in NY

I would take 40 helpers in a second from him.... Langs is the guy we need to step up - I would take away the C - and give it to Pando

I take ye warm welcome back, now walk me plank ye scurvey landlover!! :sarcasm:

I would take 40 helpers in a second from him.... Langs is the guy we need to step up - I would take away the C - and give it to Pando

and then everyone ***** at him for only scoring 25 pts next yaer? nah, leave it with langs, let him get 45-50 pts and quit our *****ing

can see yoru point - but with Pando you will get the same output with a C or not - hes so level headed...

can see yoru point - but with Pando you will get the same output with a C or not - hes so level headed...

i think brent likes a firey attitude out there, like langs or madden, and really langs had the same kind of overall pt production as he does pretty much every year, but like elias, we all expected more out of his just because he ahs the C. which is why i think he gave it to langs, so tha telias wouldnt have that presure on him to score cause hes the captain, but now langs has it and he just isnt a guy tha twill put up 60 pts. and really if you look at it, he had 41 pts in 64 games. he may have had about 50-55 pts last yaer if he played the whole year (yes i know he sucked in teh second half) but thats alot out of him, especially when elias only had 55 pts last year

I would take 40 helpers in a second from him.... Langs is the guy we need to step up - I would take away the C - and give it to Pando

How did you come up with that logic?

Langenbrunner had 13 goals and 28 assists last year playing only 64 games...

That works out to 16 goals and 35 assists or 51 points if he had played on the same pace in 82 games.

In the season before that he had 23 goals and 37 assists, and before that 19 goals and 34 assists.

That means he played about average last season with maybe a slight drop due to recovering from the surgery. I wouldn't be worrying about his performance.

112 pt career year

Calling it

can see yoru point - but with Pando you will get the same output with a C or not - hes so level headed...

Just give it to me then. I'm level headed. Sheesh.

Good points Moon, Langenbrunner was at his basic pace last year. He started strong but finished brutally weak.

I expect big things from Langenbrunner. A Madden-like turnaround I think.

Didnt want to make another thread, but a very interesting article about Elias and Holik.

I forget which other article said that Holik can bring the best out of Patty.

anyway, here is the link: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=383506

i really hope to see big things from patty this season. on devils.com they have an interview with gio about the chemistry all ready forming. they are all thinking good things. :)

THN.com Blog: Primed for a Comeback...

http://thehockeynews.com/articles/18353-THNcom-Blog-Primed-for-a-comeback.html

Patrik Elias, New Jersey
The Devils have lacked quality centers the past couple years, so Elias moved from his natural left wing position to the middle. It might have helped the Devils' greater good, but it did little for Elias's productivity or confidence. After averaging 35 goals and 70-75 points in the five seasons prior to the lockout, Elias has turned in campaigns of 16, 21 and 20 goals (and 45, 69 and 55 points). New Jersey added centers Brian Rolston and Bobby Holik in the off-season – both players were originally drafted by the Devils – so Elias will slide back over to the left side. And, the Devils hope, he'll slide back up to the 30-goal, 75-point range.

wonder what muttley has to say about this:D

i really hope to see big things from patty this season. on devils.com they have an interview with gio about the chemistry all ready forming. they are all thinking good things. :)



Agree with you paul, I am very optimistic about patty this year! i really think that we will see Elias explode with his goal totals. i mean they always talk about how each linemate will have to shoot the puck alot more often just to get themselves chances, since 2/3 of the line loves shooting patty will learn to love it again and it will increase his point totals. im sayin 35 40 for 75

Agree with you paul, I am very optimistic about patty this year! i really think that we will see Elias explode with his goal totals. i mean they always talk about how each linemate will have to shoot the puck alot more often just to get themselves chances, since 2/3 of the line loves shooting patty will learn to love it again and it will increase his point totals. im sayin 35 40 for 75

ayo there he is, if anyone decides to pull out of opening night let me know ive had money saved for about month so ill throw u some loot kid

haha you got it man

wonder what muttley has to say about this:D

re-read the entire thread. :sarcasm:

re-read the entire thread. :sarcasm:

d'oh, i mustve missed it when i went throught the first time. i was expecting a bigger clash of opinions though:D.

Here are the NHL career numbers for Patrik Elias. Below his totals are his average numbers for all seasons in which he played 70 or more games and his average numbers since 1999-00, when he hit his prime.

SEASON| AGE| TEAM| GP| G| A| PTS
1995-96|19|New Jersey Devils|1|0|0|0|
1996-97|20|New Jersey Devils|17|2|3|5|
1997-98|21|New Jersey Devils|74|18|19|37|
1998-99|22|New Jersey Devils|74|17|33|50|
1999-00|23|New Jersey Devils|72|35|37|72|
2000-01|24|New Jersey Devils|82|40|56|96|
2001-02|25|New Jersey Devils|75|29|32|61|
2002-03|26|New Jersey Devils|81|28|29|57|
2003-04|27|New Jersey Devils|82|38|43|81|
2005-06|29|New Jersey Devils|38|16|29|45|
2006-07|30|New Jersey Devils|75|21|48|69|
2007-08|31|New Jersey Devils|74|20|35|55|
||NHL Career|745|264|364|628|
||9 Full Seasons (70+ GP)|76.6|27.3|36.9|64.2|
||Peak Full Seasons *|77.3|30.1|40.0|70.1

* all seasons since 1999-00 except for 2005-06

I expect about 20 to 25 goals and about 50 assists from Elias this season. I see him as having the most playmaking ability of he, Gionta and Rolston. The latter two have both had a few seasons in which they had more goals than assists. Patty has never done that.

I would gladly take his 69 PTS (21 G, 48 A) from 2006-07. He has only reached the 90-point plateau once, the 80-point level twice an put up 70 or more points three times in his career.

2 games 2 goals. Watch em' on Monday it's only gonna get better!!!:nod:

On pace for 82 points, all of them goals...

On pace for 82 points, all of them goals...and 82 wins for the Devils. Even Ditka would be impressed.

Probably around 70 points for Elias this year...30-40 would be nice.

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i will extremely unhappy if he doesnt get over the 25 mark this season. shoot the puck more please.

i will extremely unhappy if he doesnt get over the 25 mark this season. shoot the puck more please.

......hes got 22. he shoots the puck plenty, he is second in shots

yeah i know, but he got lucky with the last two. didnt have to do anything gio just threw it in front of the net and they hit off of him. i want to see him light the lamp 30 times atleast. i guess im getting ahead of myself. i just love the guy.

no homo.

yeah i know, but he got lucky with the last two. didnt have to do anything gio just threw it in front of the net and they hit off of him. i want to see him light the lamp 30 times atleast. i guess im getting ahead of myself. i just love the guy.

he got robber on monday, he had it but he couldnt get it over lundqvuist leg. he is a bit snake bitten right now, he is getting good chances he just needs to convert

As of late, he's been ok, when he's at his best he's usually more involved physically and lately he hasn't been that physical.

He isn't standing out like he did during his hot streak. He's mainly getting assists right now (6 assists in 5 games for the month of February). But like BKDevil said... he's playing more physically. He's getting his team game on.

I think he'll hover around 30 goals. I think he'll go on a mini streak... with like 4 goals over 7 games... and then go back to being a setup man.

He isn't standing out like he did during his hot streak. He's mainly getting assists right now (6 assists in 5 games for the month of February). But like BKDevil said... he's playing more physically. He's getting his team game on.

I think he'll hover around 30 goals. I think he'll go on a mini streak... with like 4 goals over 7 games... and then go back to being a setup man.

He always has a late season hot streak. Wait for it;)

elias will never hit the net again, he will suck balls until the seasons over and he will develop a strange rash on his left heel that will smell like salami.

He isn't standing out like he did during his hot streak. He's mainly getting assists right now (6 assists in 5 games for the month of February). But like BKDevil said... he's playing more physically. He's getting his team game on.

I think he'll hover around 30 goals. I think he'll go on a mini streak... with like 4 goals over 7 games... and then go back to being a setup man.
His line hasn't been all that productive lately...

because gionta is a streaky midget and zubie is in a mini slump of his own:(

From what I've seen, Zubs hasn't been getting any chances at all in a very long time

because pattys behind the back rabbydonts havent been getting to him...or anyone. cmon negative energy...work your reverse mojo magic.

because pattys behind the back rabbydonts havent been getting to him...or anyone. cmon negative energy...work your reverse mojo magic.

gotta bring up the Neverson post.

That line has done nothing lately, time to break them up, Gionta only has 3 goals in the last 26 games, horrible.

Gionta has very quietly (in terms of people getting on him) not done anything for a long time. It seems like Patty makes one or two very good passes during the game but nothing comes of it, Zubrus just nails some people or is getting taken down and Gionta is skating well but with no offense.