GDT Preseason - Capitals at Devils - Mon Sept. 29th 7pm [Archive]

Drake1588

09-29-2008, 12:18 PM

isn't Semin a LW?

He is naturally a LW, yes, but there are two factors at work. First, a line of Brooks Laich - Sergei Fedorov - Alexander Semin was very, very good near the end of the season and into the playoffs, and will likely carry over to the this season.

Secondly, Ovechkin and Semin are the team's best two offensive players, and consequently Boudreau is not shy about extending the shifts of both guys. When Ovechkin extends his shifts, it takes time away from the team's other left wingers, so getting Semin used to playing on the right works for all sorts of reasons. You can also periodically have them overlap out on the ice.

So I glad I get to see Ovechkin tonight! Not bad for a no charge game for us STH'SIt's the first game in which the stars have played on the road. The team has cut about 25 guys since Friday, given that the Hershey Bears' training camp is starting. This is the Caps' first game where they are going to try and get the regular season lines back playing together and work on chemistry. So most of the lineup is together; Fedorov is the noteworthy forward who is not dressing tonight. That was not the case in the team's earlier road games in Carolina and Boston.

The defense is somewhat more muddled. Karl Alzner and Sami Lepisto are making strong bids for roster spots. They are battling with veterans John Erskine and Milan Jurcina.

At forward, Bourque is leading the team in preseason scoring and making his own bid, but he'll have to dislodge someone to do it.

Jiri Bicek

09-29-2008, 12:19 PM

Yessss

I wanted to get a chance to see Ovy up close tonight

Weekes looked great against the Rags.. Let's see what he does for the full 60 tonight

Mr Bojanglez

09-29-2008, 12:21 PM

He is naturally a LW, yes, but there are two factors at work. First, a line of Brooks Laich - Sergei Fedorov - Alexander Semin was very, very good near the end of the season and into the playoffs, and will likely carry over to the this season.

Secondly, Ovechkin and Semin are the team's best two offensive players, and consequently Boudreau is not shy about extending the shifts of both guys. When Ovechkin extends his shifts, it takes time away from the team's other left wingers, so getting Semin used to playing on the right works for all sorts of reasons. You can also periodically have them overlap out on the ice.

Interesting, and I can buy into that. I was just curious cause I know I drafted Semin in my fantasy leagues as a LW (oooh double status here we come!)

MoonDragn

09-29-2008, 12:25 PM

They did. I watched it. It said it started at 2, so when I turned it to the station at 2, it was already 2-0 and the second period was just starting so I was pissed.

does your cable/satellite provider have a different channel on the CI channels during offseason? For me it is MLB and it shows the stupid baseball games.

Clarkson Falls Down

09-29-2008, 12:30 PM

does your cable/satellite provider have a different channel on the CI channels during offseason? For me it is MLB and it shows the stupid baseball games.

Well baseball season's over so that shouldn't be a problem for you.

Foy

09-29-2008, 12:44 PM

Ovechkin has only had one other road preseason game in his career, IIRC. He fought Mike Richards in that game.

frehley

09-29-2008, 12:45 PM

Looks like our 3rd line and 3rd Defence paring are fighting for the final roster spots.

I hope you mean 4th line.

Randal Graves

09-29-2008, 12:46 PM

Hopefully it's online tonight. I'm ordering CI (cable) today but I don't think the preseason is being shown on there.

Brooklyndevil

09-29-2008, 12:52 PM

FYI: I know the game isn't being televised on MSG. However, I have direct TV and get the Washington channel and I don't believe they're blocking out preseason games. We just might be able to watch the game for those of us who get their station.

Devilsfanatic

09-29-2008, 12:53 PM

Hopefully it's online tonight. I'm ordering CI (cable) today but I don't think the preseason is being shown on there.

Absolutely they show pre-season here.

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 12:55 PM

any online sites streaming this?

Devilswede

09-29-2008, 01:01 PM

any online sites streaming this?

Doesn't look like it.

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 01:07 PM

curses :(

Devilswede

09-29-2008, 01:37 PM

I doubt that Rupp-Holik-Zubrus will play tonight, they played last game so...but I guess we won't know until TG reports on it.

Randal Graves

09-29-2008, 01:40 PM

I'm looking around for a stream now.. so far nothing. The forum on the caps site is doing the same right now so you can keep an eye on this as well.

Make sure to say hi to jcalvert247 who thinks this board smells like a sewer. :dunce:

http://boards.washingtoncaps.com/index.php?showtopic=76209&st=0

ILikeItVeryMuch

09-29-2008, 01:44 PM

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 01:58 PM

I doubt that Rupp-Holik-Zubrus will play tonight, they played last game so...but I guess we won't know until TG reports on it.

Sutter said he and general manager Lou Lamoriello still had some decisions to make for the lineup for Monday's game, but the Zach Parise-Travis Zajac-Jamie Langenbrunner line, the Jay Pandolfo-John Madden-David Clarkson line and the Fedor Fedorov-Petr Vrana-Nicklas Bergfors will all play against the Caps.

I assumed based on the success of the Rolston line last game, we would most likely see the Rupp-Holik-Zubrus line as they need to establish chemistry at this point. On top of that if Leblond is playing, he doesn't slot well with Rolston's line but could fill in for Rupp.

Like all my assumptions - this may prove to be incorrect.

DGen

09-29-2008, 02:07 PM

Maybe we can get Tom Gulitti to have a webcam where he is sitting and broadcasts the game from his laptop. :sarcasm:

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 02:08 PM

Maybe we can get Tom Gulitti to have a webcam where he is sitting and broadcasts the game from his laptop. :sarcasm:

http://www.nalsofmichigan.org/images/Great%20Idea.jpg

Timzey

09-29-2008, 02:43 PM

Das Uber

09-29-2008, 02:51 PM

ILikeItVeryMuch

09-29-2008, 02:52 PM

MSG treats the devils like such trash... how is it that every pre season ranger game is televised + they have all those shows about their players..... (marc stall ALREADY has one) + a season preview show.... and we get "DrUmRoLL PleAse" ..... NOTHING.... we need our own channel NOW.... FSNJ, NJSN, TPC, Comcast NJ, whatever it is, this MSG ******** is killing me

Let them have all that self fluffing nonsense, all I care about is this...
1. Will the games that I dont attend be televised/available, usually in HD?
Yes.
It would have been sweet to have the YES Network but the funny thing is, MSG is giving the Devils a tooonnnnn of mooonnney. The only time I turn MSG/MSG+ on is for the Devils.

Foy

09-29-2008, 02:55 PM

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 02:57 PM

Hey, I'm trying to defend you all.

Foy just abandon ship and get onboard with us officially. We'll still allow you a man-crush on AO, as we have many people here with man-crushes on star players from other teams (Phaneuf is a favorite).

Cmon... we have cookies.

Foy

09-29-2008, 02:57 PM

Maybe we can get Tom Gulitti to have a webcam where he is sitting and broadcasts the game from his laptop. :sarcasm:

You could get Chico to do it. It'll just show the goaltenders the whole team, even when it's a neutral zone draw.

Foy

09-29-2008, 02:57 PM

Foy just abandon ship and get onboard with us officially. We'll still allow you a man-crush on AO, as we have many people here with man-crushes on star players from other teams (Phaneuf is a favorite).

Cmon... we have cookies.

I'm pretty sure I'd have to give up my Season Tickets to the caps, and get disavowed by my family. Not going to happen.

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 03:00 PM

I'm pretty sure I'd have to give up my Season Tickets to the caps, and get disavowed by my family. Not going to happen.

See - there you go, you can sell your season tickets and even have extra cash!!!

Not only is this a great move, it's a lucrative one as well. No need to thank me now...

ILikeItVeryMuch

09-29-2008, 03:00 PM

You're my boy Foy.

Foy

09-29-2008, 03:03 PM

You're my boy Foy.

I'm alot more beloved here than I am over ther (The Caps Official Bandwagon Boards). It's rather funny.

Mustangs

09-29-2008, 03:07 PM

I Imagine that tonights game is a big one for those who are on the bubble. Tomorrow maybe some more cuts?

I Hate Tie DOMI

09-29-2008, 03:18 PM

Son of a *****. NHL CI showed it? I hope they show it tonight then too, will have to go and check the guide tonight.

Yeah CI showed it. It was the Rangers broadcast, but Chico was there so needless to say I muted the entire game.

Njdevilsfireonice30

09-29-2008, 03:22 PM

Yeah CI showed it. It was the Rangers broadcast, but Chico was there so needless to say I muted the entire game.

hahaha oh come on, there's nothing better than sitting there with a few beers trying to figure out what Chico is trying to say... that crew on Saturday was one of the worst I have ever heard, and I've been listening to Bob Cole "call" games for years.

I Hate Tie DOMI

09-29-2008, 03:22 PM

does your cable/satellite provider have a different channel on the CI channels during offseason? For me it is MLB and it shows the stupid baseball games.

Cogeco cable (my provider) has a block of channels in the 400s for all the sports packages, MLB Extra Innings, NHL Centre Ice, NFL Sunday Ticket, NASCAR, and we get some OHL games, and some lacrosse games too. The channels change from time to time so you have to go looking for what you want, but they are always in the 400s and no other channels are in the 400s besides these.

Randal Graves

09-29-2008, 03:38 PM

Hey, I'm trying to defend you all.

I just saw that.. nice. :D
Got enough posts on that board?

It also looks like I started a war over there.

I just felt that if I was going to link to that thread for stream info I better mention that post was in there. I personally wasn't offended, but I do like a good flame war so it all worked out I guess... hopefully it doesn't detract from the primary mission: finding a stream for tonight's game.

ILikeItVeryMuch

09-29-2008, 03:48 PM

I just saw that.. nice. :D
Got enough posts on that board?

It also looks like I started a war over there.

I just felt that if I was going to link to that thread for stream info I better mention that post was in there. I personally wasn't offended, but I do like a good flame war so it all worked out I guess... hopefully it doesn't detract from the primary mission: finding a stream for tonight's game.

I usually let the stereotypical "I have never been to NJ, and the only information I have about it was from the Sopranos" jabs roll off my back, but when someone from DC makes a "smell" remark, its on like Donkey Kong Jr.

Devilswede

09-29-2008, 04:09 PM

The Devils' lineup for the game against the Capitals:

Zach Parise-Travis Zajac-Jamie Langenbrunner
Jay Pandolfo-John Madden-David Clarkson
Fedor Fedorov-Petr Vrana-Nicklas Bergfors
P.L Leblond-Rod Pelley-Patrick Davis.

Bryce Salvador-Paul Martin
Anssi Salmela-Jay Leach
Andy Greene-Sheldon Brookbank.

www.nj.com/devils

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 04:16 PM

Devilswede

09-29-2008, 04:22 PM

I won't be up to watch/listen to this game, so please keep me updated on how the guys played, especially the young guys. That way I'll have a lot of interesting stuff to read through in the morning, while most of you guys are still asleep.

Thanks!

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 04:31 PM

Hopefully i can go to the game tonight, i met get tickets. otherwise, ill be on here, listening to the radio.

Jiri Bicek

09-29-2008, 04:34 PM

Hopefully i can go to the game tonight, i met get tickets. otherwise, ill be on here, listening to the radio.

Go there and hang out in the box office

People will likely be giving out extra vouchers and you'll get to sit down low

Randal Graves

09-29-2008, 04:35 PM

Lou's Koolaid

09-29-2008, 04:36 PM

Go there and hang out in the box office

People will likely be giving out extra vouchers and you'll get to sit down lowNo vouchers tonight. These tix our comps without the extras.:teach2:

Lou's Koolaid

09-29-2008, 04:38 PM

I never got that remark.. What I've seen of the state looks very nice.From an airplaine even the armpit of N.J looks lovley.:nod:

ALine9900

09-29-2008, 04:40 PM

Jiri Bicek

09-29-2008, 04:41 PM

No vouchers tonight. These tix our comps without the extras.:teach2:

Ah, I see I see

I thought they had them for each game.. I was talking to one of the employees at the Ranger game and she said they'll be handing out extras for the Caps game, so I assumed they're be in vouchers

Foy

09-29-2008, 04:49 PM

"Of course Devils fans didn't think it was funny. They can't help it their city sucks"

I didn't know NJ was a city.

that was my reaction.

Lou's Koolaid

09-29-2008, 04:53 PM

Ah, I see I see

I thought they had them for each game.. I was talking to one of the employees at the Ranger game and she said they'll be handing out extras for the Caps game, so I assumed they're be in vouchersPerhaps your right and well i hope you are.;)

MoonDragn

09-29-2008, 04:55 PM

I usually let the stereotypical "I have never been to NJ, and the only information I have about it was from the Sopranos" jabs roll off my back, but when someone from DC makes a "smell" remark, its on like Donkey Kong Jr.

Yeah, I just walked back from Union Station here in DC and it stinks here. The subway stunk, the streets stink. You'd think right across from the center of DC it would be clean. As for the panhandlers! Geesh, every two feet someone is asking for a handout.

When I walked by this lady that typically asks for handouts is busy talking on her Cell phone...

?! If you're destitute, can you afford a cell phone service?

Game Breaker

09-29-2008, 06:43 PM

Yeah, I just walked back from Union Station here in DC and it stinks here. The subway stunk, the streets stink. You'd think right across from the center of DC it would be clean. As for the panhandlers! Geesh, every two feet someone is asking for a handout.

When I walked by this lady that typically asks for handouts is busy talking on her Cell phone...

?! If you're destitute, can you afford a cell phone service?

Idk what's worse, the people asking for money, of the people who in fact give them money.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 06:45 PM

Looks like i have to listen to the game tonight instead of being there. Damn. :(

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 06:48 PM

what about that justintv site(or whatever it was) that some of us caught the cryers game on?

Game Breaker

09-29-2008, 06:54 PM

There is absolutely no reason why every single game isn't televised. Its a joke.

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-29-2008, 07:04 PM

There is absolutely no reason why every single game isn't televised. Its a joke.

it absolutley is. no excuse for it. especially becuase its a home game

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 07:46 PM

what about that justintv site(or whatever it was) that some of us caught the cryers game on?
AFAIK neither the Devils nor the Capitals are having any kind of broadcast, either TV or internet. If there is no source, no internet sites can stream it.

Barring someone hacking into the jumbotron feed or going to the game with a webcam and streaming it from there (both HIGHLY unlikely) I think we're all stuck with the radio tonight.

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 07:50 PM

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jukebox/colobar.gif

PLEASE STAND BY FOR REGULAR SEASON COVERAGE

Timzey

09-29-2008, 07:57 PM

Let them have all that self fluffing nonsense, all I care about is this...
1. Will the games that I dont attend be televised/available, usually in HD?
Yes.
It would have been sweet to have the YES Network but the funny thing is, MSG is giving the Devils a tooonnnnn of mooonnney. The only time I turn MSG/MSG+ on is for the Devils.

I want preseason games, and good pre and post game coverage... that is all... i could care less about the shows and stuff.....

having three teams on the same network and only showing one team's preseason games is a slap in the face.....

pscoln1

09-29-2008, 08:02 PM

i dont understand why they dont air the game on tv ... i cant listen to a game on the radio ... i need the viusuals or else its frustrating

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 08:03 PM

Ummmm Devils website says it's on WFAN... they are still on talk show and saying they're on until 8pm.

HELP?

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 08:04 PM

Ummmm Devils website says it's on WFAN... they are still on talk show and saying they're on until 8pm.

HELP?
Yeah, I'm having the same problem. Time to look for a Caps feed?

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 08:05 PM

Yeah, I'm having the same problem. Time to look for a Caps feed?

It's on feed 2

http://play.it/player/player.html?mix=0&id=4167

Darius Dangleaitis

09-29-2008, 08:07 PM

It's really, really, really weak that we can't watch this.

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 08:10 PM

somewhere, jesus is weeping for us
:(

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:12 PM

its not the same without the vid. Nice save by weekes.

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 08:12 PM

Sounds like Weekes is having a solid start.

I'm not sure I like the idea of Clarkson going head to head with Ovechkin, but I guess preseason is the time to see if he can handle it.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:13 PM

Alright lets get the PP going boys

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 08:14 PM

cmon salmela, take advantage of this 5 on 3

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:14 PM

nice 5 on 3

Langs on the point again with Martin

jkrdevil

09-29-2008, 08:16 PM

its not the same without the vid. Nice save by weekes.

Yes but without video you can just pretend like he made the most unbelievable save when he probably just dropped down to his knees.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:16 PM

**** vrana passes up a nice chance and then takes a bad penalty

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 08:17 PM

SAL-mela:rant:

and virana the piranha:rant:

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:17 PM

Salmela with the good defense. i really think he is going to be in our top 6 this year.

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 08:17 PM

Sounds like the PP is in midseason form :laugh: :cry:

Clarkson Falls Down

09-29-2008, 08:19 PM

Sounds like the PP is in midseason form :laugh: :cry:

Well, Johnny MacLean runs it so...

Devilsfanatic

09-29-2008, 08:20 PM

I still say we should have signed Campbell instead of Rolston.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:24 PM

fedfed dangling

AfroThunder396

09-29-2008, 08:24 PM

This chick on the radio is horrible. Thank God I got Center Ice last year.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:28 PM

Caps go on the PP

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 08:33 PM

I had forgotten how much I hate listening on the radio.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:33 PM

Bergfors with the turnover, mis communication between him and fedfed, no biggie

jkrdevil

09-29-2008, 08:37 PM

paulytits

09-29-2008, 08:37 PM

Score A Goal.

why was that not in all caps as it was intended to be...

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 08:40 PM

Sounds like the PP is in midseason form :laugh: :cry:

ugh...

Can't win a faceoff - can't control - can't keep them from ragging it back.

Thankfully it will only take 1 shot per PP to score... that's all we may get.

Chico Resch

09-29-2008, 08:40 PM

Hahah brilliant, this is a pre-season thread thats looking like one of the ones we have in the middle of the season.

"WHY DID WE SIGN THIS GUY"
"TRADE THE TEAM"

I love you guys.

Richer's Ghost

09-29-2008, 08:42 PM

someone tell Matty his name is Pa-reez-ay not Pa-reasy :facepalm:

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:42 PM

Weekes seems to be playing very well tonight.

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 08:42 PM

Is there a reason why the Devils couldn't stream this online like other team with the jumbotron feed synced with the radio commentary? They already have both in place how much more work is it to put it together and online?
Because Devils = Epic Fail in all off-ice/fan-related matters.

I sent them an email after the first preseason game, here is some of what I said:
Secondly, the Devils audio/video coverage for the preseason is atrocious. I am listening to the audio streaming right now for the first preseason game, and multiple times so far the feed has cut to a commercial while the action is going on. They were playing commercials for the first minute or two of the second period instead of the radio commentary. And in this day of multimedia coverage there really should be video available. The Flyers are at least showing the video from their jumbotron on their website; while it may not be much, it's certainly better than nothing. At the very least the Devils could do the same for their home games.

As a fan it is incredibly frustrating to cheer for a team that puts so much effort and emphasis into the on ice product, but practically none into the off ice product. What good is building a top quality team if there is no way for fans to watch it?
Here's the response I got:

Dear [DF38],

Thank you for your recent e-mail. We appreciate your interest, comments, and support of the New Jersey Devils.

Best regards,

xxxx

xxxx
Sr. EVP/Chief Operating Officer
Good to see they care :shakehead

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:44 PM

Salvador interview coming up soon

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 08:50 PM

"It was the culture"

Someone is drinking the Lou-Aid :)

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 08:56 PM

Leblond has been playing very good this preseason.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 09:03 PM

****.

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 09:04 PM

dammit evil green, why cant u be on our team

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-29-2008, 09:14 PM

too much talking sherry....

i cant believe im listening to a ****ing preseason game on the radio....**** you NY Mets

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 09:16 PM

Sounds like the Devils are having a pretty crappy period so far.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 09:20 PM

Sounds like the Devils are having a pretty crappy game so far.

fixed. :(

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 09:25 PM

Zajac hits the post

Foy

09-29-2008, 09:28 PM

fixed. :(

not necessarily. They were generating offensive opportunities that forced the Caps to take stupid penalties in the first. They need to either convert those opportunities or make the opposition pay for committing penalties.

The Caps announcers have been gushing over Brookbank.

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 09:29 PM

Geez that is a sick PP the Caps can ice: Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom, Nylander, and Green :amazed:

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 09:29 PM

The Caps announcers have been gushing over Brookbank.

What have they been saying? Theres not much to gush about...:help:

Mr Bojanglez

09-29-2008, 09:32 PM

Salmela has a hard shot... he just hasn't put it on goal.....

Where have we heard that before?

devilzrule27

09-29-2008, 09:32 PM

Geez that is a sick PP the Caps can ice: Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom, Nylander, and Green :amazed:

i wish we had a PP with that much firepower. Sounds almost as scary as the old lightning group PP. I hated giving up PP to them.

Foy

09-29-2008, 09:32 PM

Geez that is a sick PP the Caps can ice: Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom, Nylander, and Green :amazed:

That won't be a unit once the season starts. Fedorov, Laich, Clark and Poti will need to be worked into the mix, as well as probably Fehr or Fleischmann.

fluffernutter mf

09-29-2008, 09:34 PM

The Caps announcers have been gushing over Brookbank.

Good. You guys can have him.

devilzrule27

09-29-2008, 09:35 PM

That won't be a unit once the season starts. Fedorov, Laich, Clark and Poti will need to be worked into the mix, as well as probably Fehr or Fleischmann.

I don't know if i were them i'd throw that unit out there. Throw the other guys on the second unit. It's just to dangerous a group on paper to break up.

devilzrule27

09-29-2008, 09:47 PM

Oh matty making fun of uneducated people. haha

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 09:47 PM

cmon ****ers get on the board

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 09:49 PM

Jose Theodore in.

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 09:50 PM

this crazy woman talks alot

ZZ Pops

09-29-2008, 09:51 PM

Seriously Loughlin?

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 09:51 PM

Wow, it took two years for Loughlin to announce whether that was a goal or not. Dude, tell us it's a goal first, then figure out who scored it.

Way to suck, Devils.

devilzrule27

09-29-2008, 09:52 PM

With Matty's radio call i couldn't even tell a goal was scored. That and Ross never shuts up.

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 09:52 PM

Games done, jeez we looked bad.

MoonDragn

09-29-2008, 09:55 PM

Games done, jeez we looked bad.

We sound bad at least...

devilzrule27

09-29-2008, 09:55 PM

I'm going to turn the game off now and go watch some Arrested development.

Mr Bojanglez

09-29-2008, 09:55 PM

Wow, it took two years for Loughlin to announce whether that was a goal or not. Dude, tell us it's a goal first, then figure out who scored it.

Way to suck, Devils.

I'm liking the feisty side of Devilsfan38 :laugh:

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 09:58 PM

Leblond and Brashear fighting. THis kid is awesome.

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 09:58 PM

yea....we should be seeing this:shakehead

MoonDragn

09-29-2008, 09:58 PM

Wow someone that can fight Brashier!

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-29-2008, 10:05 PM

why is leblond getting love? i'll give it to him, fighting brashier is not easy task but the guy has no offensive abilities

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 10:08 PM

finally:yo:wish i coulda seen the breakout for ****s sake tho

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 10:08 PM

I'm liking the feisty side of Devilsfan38 :laugh:
Heh, it comes out occasionally :)

yea....we should be seeing this:shakehead
Yeah, sounds like I'm better not watching this travesty.

Goal! Finally! I :heart: Zach

Harrison Ford

09-29-2008, 10:13 PM

Niceeee. Zach puttin one home.

Mr Bojanglez

09-29-2008, 10:19 PM

the little mermaid, really? they must have known ab0rginal was listening :laugh:

Das Uber

09-29-2008, 10:25 PM

Vrana?!

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 10:26 PM

the little mermaid, really? they must have known ab0rginal was listening :laugh:

ya lost me, although ursula is a crazy octopus *****.

Das Uber

09-29-2008, 10:26 PM

Yep, Vrana get's the goal.

Mr Bojanglez

09-29-2008, 10:29 PM

eh, well at least they came back and showed some fight

Mr Bojanglez

09-29-2008, 10:29 PM

ya lost me, although ursula is a crazy octopus *****.

i dunno why, but I nominated you as a little mermaid fan (there was a commercial about them... and polluting or something)

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 10:32 PM

i dunno why, but I nominated you as a little mermaid fan (there was a commercial about them... and polluting or something)

ooook, im not quite sure how to feel about that:laugh:.

Z-Z Pop1915

09-29-2008, 10:35 PM

Wow someone that can fight Brashier!

Last year at the 12/7/07 game vs. Washington, i was sitting in section 227 and this guy with like a hundred devils pins on his hat (whom i saw often around the Rock) yells out "Somebody fight Brashier!!" in this weird ass voice. it was quiet and the whole section turned and was like what the *****?

Very funny/awkward moment.

Das Uber

09-29-2008, 10:45 PM

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond will be on the opening roster. Book it.

Clarkson Falls Down

09-29-2008, 10:45 PM

Geez, I could barely listen to that. Had to turn it off. Laughlin is the worst radio man I've ever seen. Someone talking Chinese could give me a better mental picture of what's going on.

Jason MacIsaac

09-29-2008, 10:48 PM

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond will be on the opening roster. Book it.
I said this on NJDEVS after his first preseason game and again 3 days ago and nobody agreed. If Sutter loves him Sutter with have him. Vrana, Leblond and Rupp will have a rotation IMO with two being the extras.

trentondevil

09-29-2008, 10:50 PM

why is leblond getting love? i'll give it to him, fighting brashier is not easy task but the guy has no offensive abilities

just asking but how to you know he has no offensive abilities. Unless you've been in Trenton or Lowell in the last two years I'd bet the only times you have ever seen him play would be the past two exhibition games. True Leblond is not an offensive juggernaut, but he is not that bad. What you do have with Leblond is young guy with unlimited energy who plays his position well, knows his responsibilities, stands up for his teamates and he can fight. See Sutters comments in TG's blog. Sometimes you just need a grunt who does his job so that all the other guys can do theirs.

and yes I have watched Leblond play the past two years in Trenton. He was a big fan favorite and the team played much better when he was there.

Darius Dangleaitis

09-29-2008, 10:52 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing him up with the big squad to start. At least dress him for Ranger games. If he can do his thing without severely hampering the rest of his line in the process, why not?

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 11:05 PM

i really like this leblond character but hes not going to win games for the devils. theres already sloth, rupp and clarkson to do the dirty work. sure its nice to have an enforcer like him, so maybe play him for certain games. but making the team from camp...id rather see it go to vrana or bergie. its not as if leblond would see much ice time anyways. and with the way the roster is crammed with players, if theres anybody being healthy scratches itll prolly be rupp/clarkson/pelley. hes definitely impressing me with his cojones though and id love to see him make the team at some point.

Das Uber

09-29-2008, 11:06 PM

ALine9900

09-29-2008, 11:09 PM

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-29-2008, 11:12 PM

just asking but how to you know he has no offensive abilities. Unless you've been in Trenton or Lowell in the last two years I'd bet the only times you have ever seen him play would be the past two exhibition games. True Leblond is not an offensive juggernaut, but he is not that bad. What you do have with Leblond is young guy with unlimited energy who plays his position well, knows his responsibilities, stands up for his teamates and he can fight. See Sutters comments in TG's blog. Sometimes you just need a grunt who does his job so that all the other guys can do theirs.

and yes I have watched Leblond play the past two years in Trenton. He was a big fan favorite and the team played much better when he was there.

how do i know he doesnt have any offensive abilities? well you answered your own question, he has been playing in trenton and barley scores. if he isnt good enough offensivley to play on lowell....that should tell it all. he is not good enough to play on NJ. Rupp is much better than this guy. I admire his passion and intensity but thats why sutter is saying such nice things about him. sutter likes hard workers, leblond is a hard worker, he just doesnt have the skill to play in the nhl

and yes, i have only see him play in those 2 preseason games

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-29-2008, 11:13 PM

Jason MacIssac, do how do you think vrana would fit at rw along side of madden and pandolfo?

åboriginal

09-29-2008, 11:18 PM

IMO, Rupp gets waived.

well wed all like that, but well...we all know theyll never do it. and if he was waived...hed prolly be picked back up again next year.

Jason MacIsaac

09-29-2008, 11:24 PM

Jason MacIssac, do how do you think vrana would fit at rw along side of madden and pandolfo?
It would be a slight adjustment but I think he would do well. He is extremely smart and well positioned.

DevilsFan38

09-29-2008, 11:32 PM

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond will be on the opening roster. Book it.

I said this on NJDEVS after his first preseason game and again 3 days ago and nobody agreed. If Sutter loves him Sutter with have him. Vrana, Leblond and Rupp will have a rotation IMO with two being the extras.
I'm starting to think the same thing, though I don't think I really like the idea.

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-29-2008, 11:32 PM

It would be a slight adjustment but I think he would do well. He is extremely smart and well positioned.

because that seems like the only/best play to put him

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-29-2008, 11:34 PM

I'm starting to think the same thing, though I don't think I really like the idea.

i really think we are getting ahead of ourselves. why would leblond get a spot over vrana or rupp? maybe just to piss off rupp but other than that i dont see how he would make it

Jason MacIsaac

09-29-2008, 11:40 PM

i really think we are getting ahead of ourselves. why would leblond get a spot over vrana or rupp? maybe just to piss off rupp but other than that i dont see how he would make it
They carry 14 men on the roster...Vrana and Leblond will be the extras. Vrana is not going to develop in the AHL anymore so he is at the stage Bicek was in, perform or don't play.

guyincognito

09-29-2008, 11:40 PM

I wish I spent more time paying attention to this game instead of BS'ing and drinking. I didn't even come down from the restaurant bar until Ovechkin ran Zajac a couple of minutes in, when I realized Washington actually sent players and not the scrub-squad.

Long story short, this was a bad game for this split squad, so now both have played one bad and one good.

Vrana finds himself in the right place at the right time again, I don't know that he's looked incredible, but I don't think it's a coincidence that he keeps finding that right place.

Fedor and Clarkson should put a one-man puckhog show duel on during an intermission.

You can't like Pelley's chances of making the team when they won't let him get a shift with NHL players. Patrick Davis played an energy game, but I have no clue why he's still here, I guess because of the split squad, which I guess would end pretty soon.

Leblond can take alot of punches to the head. I do not see anything here that makes him much better than Cam, (keeping in mind Cam has improved from what he was originally) and I am not a believer we really need this kind of player except on an occasional call-up basis, there's no reason for him to make the team and he won't get better by not playing.

No matter what happens, someone's going to be disappointed when the roster is set, I don't know that I've seen anything yet (other than maybe Vrana's hockey sense) that is going to force Sutter's hand to dump Rupp on his ass. And don't forget, Martin/White/Salvador/Oduya/Mottau/Greene/Brookbank/Samela.

There's no guarantee we're going to carry a full roster, and not go one short. Yet we still have 8 defensemen and no really easy cuts. Don't think it's a certainty that two extra forwards are going to be carried.

thefiestygoat

09-29-2008, 11:42 PM

I said this on NJDEVS after his first preseason game and again 3 days ago and nobody agreed. If Sutter loves him Sutter with have him. Vrana, Leblond and Rupp will have a rotation IMO with two being the extras.
Hey, I agreed with you there 3 days ago! :)

Good job by Leblond, looks like he held his own in that spirited bout. Seemed to pick the team up and Sutter has to love that.

trentondevil

09-29-2008, 11:42 PM

how do i know he doesnt have any offensive abilities? well you answered your own question, he has been playing in trenton and barley scores. if he isnt good enough offensivley to play on lowell....that should tell it all. he is not good enough to play on NJ. Rupp is much better than this guy. I admire his passion and intensity but thats why sutter is saying such nice things about him. sutter likes hard workers, leblond is a hard worker, he just doesnt have the skill to play in the nhl

and yes, i have only see him play in those 2 preseason games

so you watched a couple of exhibition games on tv and now know all about how good a player is. There is more to the game than just scoring goals, positioning, defense, setting up other players etc. You obviously know nothing about the player that the coach seems to like. Why dont you let Sutter do his job and pick the players. You dont see what happens in practice. Besides to you know how old Leblond is and how much he has learned in the last couple of year. Why not let Sutter do his job. I think he knows his players a little bit better. If he make the team great, if not Lowell, but please dont make judgements on players you know nothing about.

Goose Huckabee

09-29-2008, 11:49 PM

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond doesn't stand a chance of being on the opening night roster. Book that. The Devils didn't go out of their way this off-season to sign Holik so he could play on a "play 5 minutes a night and get in a fight to energize the crowd/team" line like most other 4th lines in the league. The whole idea behind his signing is so we can roll 4 deep to keep our top lines fresh. Get ****ing real this guy makes the team over guys like Bergfors, Vrana, and Fedorov, who stand a chance of actually contributing offensively to a team that had serious issues scoring last year.

The only reason he's been playing over guys like Halischuk is that he actually does stand a chance at being called up should someone like Rupp or Clarkson go down with an injury and we legitimately have no one dressing that can throw down.

Jason MacIsaac

09-29-2008, 11:52 PM

Das Uber

09-29-2008, 11:55 PM

guyincognito

09-29-2008, 11:58 PM

You do know we can carry 14 forwards? Why not carry Leblond as an extra in divisional games. Fedorov will have less of an impact playing on the 4th line every other day then Leblond would. Rupp is not a heavy weight, he can't take on the top fighters in the league and Clarkson is trash, he can't beat half the middle weights in the league.

He doesn't have to be put through waivers, right? If so, call him up when you know you need him, like I said, I would be surprised if we go with a full roster because that spot's cap savings is worth alot at the deadline. Roster size is 23, right? Then I would guess 13-7-2.

aero8279

09-30-2008, 12:01 AM

just got back from the game. nothing much came from tonight except sitting in nice club seats and eating way too much food.

the game is barely worth mentioning as not many players played well.

DevFan-RU-

09-30-2008, 12:04 AM

My writeup after going to the game: http://www.battleofny.com/2008/09/29/capitals-outshine-devils-for-3-2-win/

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-30-2008, 12:08 AM

so you watched a couple of exhibition games on tv and now know all about how good a player is. There is more to the game than just scoring goals, positioning, defense, setting up other players etc. You obviously know nothing about the player that the coach seems to like. Why dont you let Sutter do his job and pick the players. You dont see what happens in practice. Besides to you know how old Leblond is and how much he has learned in the last couple of year. Why not let Sutter do his job. I think he knows his players a little bit better. If he make the team great, if not Lowell, but please dont make judgements on players you know nothing about.

i didnt realize i was interfering with sutter decision on players. i though i was just giving my opinion on a message board.

leblond had 6 pts on lowell last year in 36 games. i realize there is more than just putting up pts but at the same time there is more than just fighting. why should leblond play over players like rupp, vrana, or bergfors? they are all better than him

åboriginal

09-30-2008, 12:25 AM

i didnt realize i was interfering with sutter decision on players. i though i was just giving my opinion on a message board.

leblond had 6 pts on lowell last year in 36 games. i realize there is more than just putting up pts but at the same time there is more than just fighting. why should leblond play over players like rupp, vrana, or bergfors? they are all better than him

its severe man crush. we all should be as lucky as him.

DevilsFan38

09-30-2008, 12:34 AM

Some stuff from TG:

Yes, the players are complaining about the Prudential Center ice again. The heat and humidity is a big factor, so maybe it will get better once it cools off later in the fall. But the puck was bouncing around a lot tonight.

"It's too hot," Zach Parise said. "It's 100 degrees in here."

Great, the arena isn't even half full and already the ice sucks :shakehead

Sutter has had the same thoughts that some of you guys have had - Vrana at wing.
It's clear Devils coach Brent Sutter is thinking hard about keeping him on the team. When I asked Sutter tonight if he's thinking about using Vrana at wing, he admitted that he's already talked to Vrana and Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello about that.

"The one thing about Petr is he's very intelligent," Sutter said. "He's a very smart player. I asked him that question (about playing the wing) the other day and talked to Lou about that and (Vrana) said kind of what I thought: 'I don't see why not.' He's got a good understanding of the game. He's a very good positional player. That's the thing about him. What I like about him is that he does a lot of little things well on the ice that you don't notice. It's those little things that you don't teach."

And Sutter won't commit on Leblond.
At this point, Leblond, 23, is still a longshot to make the team. Devils coach Brent Sutter has been vague whenever asked directly if Leblond has a realistic shot to be on the opening night roster, but he has not held back in his praise.

"We have three more exhibitions," Sutter said. "There are certain decisions that are going to have to be made over the next four or five days to get your numbers down to where you want to be at. Let's just see how it unfolds. Let's put it this way, he's certainly made everyone take notice."

BenedictGomez

09-30-2008, 12:38 AM

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond doesn't stand a chance of being on the opening night roster. Book that.

Agreed. His chances are 0.00%, unless Sutter just wants to make the point that hard work is important on this team, then I'd move his odds up to 5% (but he still gets dumped after 4 or 5 games).

Fedor and Clarkson should put a one-man puckhog show duel on during an intermission. I at least see some promise with Fedorov. There's no doubt he has legitimate offensive skills, which makes him a rare commodity on this team. Sadly, based on public comments it seems Sutter wants to show him the door.

You can't like Pelley's chances of making the team when they won't let him get a shift with NHL players. But he has looked decent, and he rarely makes bonehead mistakes, which I like. I noticed Sutter gave the Fedorov, Vrana, Bergfors line good chunk of ice time tonight (14+ minutes), so he's clearly still trying to see what these guys have against NHL regulars. Even though Vrana scored a goal, I thought that tonight he was less impressive then Bergfors (who had his best game tonight) and Fedorov.

Goose Huckabee

09-30-2008, 12:49 AM

Even though Vrana scored a goal, I thought that tonight he was less impressive then Bergfors (who had his best game tonight) and Fedorov.

Care to elaborate? I ask because I too think Bergfors should make it over Vrana but couldn't see the game tonight.

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-30-2008, 12:50 AM

Some stuff from TG:
Great, the arena isn't even half full and already the ice sucks :shakehead

ive played in a minor league teams rink and after playing in a 30 degree rink and playing in a minor league, professional arena, ****, it is soooooo hot. i know what parise means, im not saying im some kind of expert or whatever, but i honestly nearly passed out in the 3rd period. it was probably 75-80 degrees ice level inside of a huge arena with those bright lights and jumbotron above you. very intimidating, but so ****in hot. the ice was awesome though compared to the ***** im used to. (little ot story)

BenedictGomez

09-30-2008, 12:56 AM

Care to elaborate? I ask because I too think Bergfors should make it over Vrana but couldn't see the game tonight.

I dont think Bergfors has been good in the games so far, but he played well tonight. Showed some good stickhandling moves and creativity, good passing, has some speed, DIDNT make dumb rookie mistakes etc... He had a few shots on goal and chipped the puck out conservatively from the defensive zone (Devils #1 rule). He didnt show up in the box score or anything, but he played well IMO.

BenedictGomez

09-30-2008, 12:59 AM

guyincognito

09-30-2008, 01:25 AM

I actually thought it was kinda comfortable in there today. Not ice-rink cold, but not brutally warm, either. It was cold in the restaurant, at least.

JimEIV

09-30-2008, 01:28 AM

One more time so we don't forget Fedorov = Erik Rasmussen.

(Erik was just a better fighter and actually accomplished a hell of a lot more)

So Now, lets move on; Nothing to see here.

njdevsfn95

09-30-2008, 01:28 AM

the best part of this game: i had free club seats.

the worst part of this game: i lost my scarf. :cry:

it wasn't a great game, but i believe that the Caps dressed more NHL-bound players than the Devils did.

i also loved the fact we got away with pulling Weekes with 4 minutes to go on that late PP.

Jason MacIsaac

09-30-2008, 01:32 AM

Some stuff from TG:

Great, the arena isn't even half full and already the ice sucks :shakehead

Sutter has had the same thoughts that some of you guys have had - Vrana at wing.

And Sutter won't commit on Leblond.
Posted on: Sep 24 2008, 10:28 PM

"I will talk about one player, Petr Vrana. Most of his best plays aren't noticed by many other then the coach. He thinks the game at a high level which makes it easier for a smaller player like himself to compete, Halischuk has that same hockey smarts. Petr Vrana is lightning quick and his smart positional play allows for his teamates to get open easier and get rewarded. He is an easy player for two others to play with on the ice, he makes their game simple. Add to the fast that he is a good playmaker and lightning fast. It reminds me of Martin Straka, one of the better complimentary players of the last decade. The only problem I see is that he is pretty small and can be handled by a bigger center. I think his intelligence level is high enough to play right wing or left wing and I would like to see him out with Elias and Rolston on the right side for a preseason game."

I should be a coach :)

BenedictGomez

09-30-2008, 01:44 AM

One more time so we don't forget Fedorov = Erik Rasmussen.

So Now, lets move on; Nothing to see here.

I dont think you've been watching him if you compare him talent wise to Erik Rasmussen. The offensive talent is there with Fedorov, there's no question about it. He'd be a heck of a skilled 4th-liner on just about any team that's for sure. The question is more of his head, his work-ethic, and whether he'll ever listen to a coach at any level of play.

Clarkson Falls Down

09-30-2008, 01:46 AM

One more time so we don't forget Fedorov = Erik Rasmussen.

(Erik was just a better fighter and actually accomplished a hell of a lot more)

So Now, lets move on; Nothing to see here.

Wait...we're you the guy who said this same thing during the offseason?

C'mon Jim, their skill sets are almost polar opposites. Sheesh.

JimEIV

09-30-2008, 01:50 AM

I dont think you've been watching him if you compare him talent wise to Erik Rasmussen. The offensive talent is there with Fedorov, there's no question about it. He'd be a heck of a skilled 4th-liner on just about any team that's for sure. The question is more of his head, his work-ethic, and whether he'll ever listen to a coach at any level of play.

Yeah I know because all the points he's racked up in Pre-season have been just blinding -- and all the success he's had in North American is just so amazing, I can't believe he's never been give a fair chance :shakehead .................He isn't good at anything.

JimEIV

09-30-2008, 01:57 AM

Wait...we're you the guy who said this same thing during the offseason?

C'mon Jim, their skill sets are almost polar opposites. Sheesh.

Rass was more skilled than Fedor ever was and the numbers show it.

Point to one tangible thing that shows all this "Skill" everyone speaks of?

Jason MacIsaac

09-30-2008, 02:03 AM

Rass was more skilled than Fedor ever was and the numbers show it.

Point to one tangible thing that shows all this "Skill" everyone speaks of?
It depends what you consider a skill. Physically he is a strong skater and has a nice shot. He can handle a puck well. Mentally he is lost, no hockey sense, no understanding of position or the game.

Clarkson Falls Down

09-30-2008, 02:03 AM

Rass was more skilled than Fedor ever was and the numbers show it.

Point to one tangible thing that shows all this "Skill" everyone speaks of?

What numbers? Fedorov hasn't put up numbers in the NHL because he has been noted for his lack of a work ethic and hockey sense, and for not exactly getting along with teammates. Has nothing to do with skill. Rasmussen was a 4th line grinder. Nothing more, nothing less. Please don't show me that goal against the Rangers. Yes, I remember it - everybody has their moment in the sun.

I'm not rehashing that old thread from the offseason. If you can't see the superior skill of Fedorov to Rassmussen - then I suggest we go our seperate ways on this one.

And Rassmussen is an odd choice for a comparison. Why stop at him - why not use Arron Asham, or Mike Rupp?

Jason MacIsaac

09-30-2008, 02:09 AM

Rasmussen does have a 31 point season and was drafted 7th overall in the 96 draft. He did have some skill, he was a much better skater then Fedorov and had a solid hard shot. He also lacked hockey sense and an offensive mindset. I don't think total packages of skill is too far off.

JimEIV

09-30-2008, 02:09 AM

And Rassmussen is an odd choice for a comparison. Why stop at him - why not use Arron Asham, or Mike Rupp?

Rass was draft as a Skilled center

Selected by Buffalo Sabres round 1 #7 overall 1996 NHL Entry Draft

Rasmussen actually showed lots of Flashes early in his career, He was highly touted coming out of college and his freshman year at Minnesota averaged more than a point a game.

Fedorov has no real accomplishments in N.America and has showed nothing not really in the AHL or in the few games in the NHL he's been given an opportunity.

Niedermayer21

09-30-2008, 02:28 AM

I can see Petr Vrana with Holik and Clarkson on the fourth line. Also, if Zajac is not doing it offensively, Vrana could move up and play with Zach and Jamie. Might not be the best defensive line, but Vrana and Parise could create some problems for other team's defenses with their speed and skill. I could see Vrana setting up Zach time and time again.

Can Pelley be sent down? Does he have options? I want to see him play and not sit.

I can see Leblond on the left side of little Mike Swift and maybe Zharkov. I want to see if PLLL can put the puck in the net on a semi-regular basis if he takes a regular shift with two skilled players. He should be able to plant himself in front of the net and tip in a few. Then if anyone picks on Swift and Zharkov, he can beat the crap out of them.

If Mike Rupp can be sent down and recalled without worrying about losing him, I would start him in Lowell this season. He may retire, but if he uses the boxing lessons he took this summer and shows some offensive flair, we can call him up if there is an injury.

I don't want to see Rupper, Pelley, and Leblond sit and watch games. I want them to play. And I want to see Petr Vrana play. Clarkson and Fedorov can duke it out for fourth line honors. Clarkson and Holik are such pests that they will draw penalties, which is almost as good as scoring goals themselves.

Elias--Rolston--Gionta
Parise--Zajac--Langenbrunner
Pandolfo--Madden--Zubrus
Vrana--Holik--Clarkson/Fedorov??? or Rupp

Martin--Salvador
Mottau--White
Salmela<-->Oduya
Brookbank and Greene

Marty
Weekes

That makes 23. Not a bad opening night roster, eh?

Feel free to make any changes you like. Thanks!!!!

BenedictGomez

09-30-2008, 02:39 AM

I can see Petr Vrana with Holik and Clarkson on the fourth line.

Why would you put a smallish offensive forward on a 4th line with Holik and Clarkson? That line is best served with a 3rd big body like Rupp or Fedorov.

Devilswede

09-30-2008, 04:39 AM

Jason MacIsaac

09-30-2008, 05:32 AM

Why would you put a smallish offensive forward on a 4th line with Holik and Clarkson? That line is best served with a 3rd big body like Rupp or Fedorov.
Ask that same question to Detroit who have done similar things with Hudler and Filppula.

Scottyk9

09-30-2008, 07:04 AM

Das Uber

09-30-2008, 07:27 AM

Care to elaborate? I ask because I too think Bergfors should make it over Vrana but couldn't see the game tonight.

Vrana will have to go through waivers if the Devils want to send him back to Lowell. I'd say it's pretty likely that someone would pick him up if that happened.

cj225

09-30-2008, 08:19 AM

So yeah....this FedEx guy...still don't like him! He can FedEx himself on outta here..

Das Uber

09-30-2008, 09:03 AM

Rass was draft as a Skilled center

Selected by Buffalo Sabres round 1 #7 overall 1996 NHL Entry Draft

Rasmussen actually showed lots of Flashes early in his career, He was highly touted coming out of college and his freshman year at Minnesota averaged more than a point a game.

Fedorov has no real accomplishments in N.America and has showed nothing not really in the AHL or in the few games in the NHL he's been given an opportunity.

Yea and Mike Rupp was drafted 9th overall, what's your point?

Mr Bojanglez

09-30-2008, 09:19 AM

cj225

09-30-2008, 09:21 AM

are you a female?

No he's not...but his girlfriend is!

Mr Bojanglez

09-30-2008, 09:25 AM

No he's not...but his girlfriend is!

well then I'm glad that HE lost his scarf. Breaking the man rules. It's not even cold out yet!

Richer's Ghost

09-30-2008, 09:47 AM

well then I'm glad that HE lost his scarf. Breaking the man rules. It's not even cold out yet!

Well thankfully his beret was saved. :sarcasm:

britdevil

09-30-2008, 09:50 AM

well then I'm glad that HE lost his scarf. Breaking the man rules. It's not even cold out yet!

I thought all Americans wore scarfs, whilst wrusslin' up the cows?

Richer's Ghost

09-30-2008, 10:01 AM

I thought all Americans wore scarfs, whilst wrusslin' up the cows?

those would be a kerchief - a la bandito style.

http://www.exploreshop.com/images/big/bandit.jpg

Not a scarf:

http://www.scotweb.co.uk/club_images/largeitems/sr_stmwc_scarf_worsted_mens.jpg

britdevil

09-30-2008, 10:29 AM

Tbf, that guy looks British too.

Fail. :cry:

Richer's Ghost

09-30-2008, 11:01 AM

Tbf, that guy looks British too.

Fail. :cry:

How can you tell? His teeth aren't even showing. :rolly:

Mr Bojanglez

09-30-2008, 11:12 AM

How can you tell? His teeth aren't even showing. :rolly:

I think cause you can see the albedo effect of the sun reflecting off his alabaster skin

britdevil

09-30-2008, 11:24 AM

How can you tell? His teeth aren't even showing. :rolly:

This reminds me, I'm running low on Coal-gate.

fashi13

09-30-2008, 11:52 AM

I wasn't suggesting that PLLL should be on the opening night roster. I'd much rather see FedFed, Vrana, or Bergfors grab an open spot. I just think PLLL makes the cut because Sutter has a raging hard on for him.

How has Fed Fed played this preseason?

cj225

09-30-2008, 11:53 AM

How has Fed Fed played this preseason?

Depends on who you ask!

BenedictGomez

09-30-2008, 11:57 AM

How has Fed Fed played this preseason?

He's showed flashes of pretty impressive offense skills as well as flashes of meh. Frankly, none of the 3 rookies on that line have blown the doors off anyone and created a spot for themself on the team. Somewhere, Rupp is wiping the sweat off his brow in relief and hoping nobody on that line does anything to stand out for a few more preseason games.

Richer's Ghost

09-30-2008, 12:12 PM

Donald is a beast. Nothing but praise for our kid. He held his own..LOST but held is own. I am still waiting for Donald vs Laraque fight.

http://cdn.nhl.com/devils/images/upload/2008/09/0929_sm.jpg

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That's one lumpy head!
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And perhaps the most impressive hit of the night... ZAJAC?! Is that you? More plz.

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Gunnar Stahl 30

09-30-2008, 01:19 PM

nice pics

http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/09/leblond-makes-d.html

leblond needed4 stitches for that cut

leblond on brashear

Leblond Donald Brashear also meant something more than that to him.

"The guy is from Quebec-City, he's a French-Canadian and I've been watching him growing up and now I'm here fighting him," Leblond said after tonight's 3-2 preseason loss to the Capitals at Prudential Center. "It's kind of special."

more on the fight and brashear

Leblond ended up with a four-stitch cut on the back of his head (left side), but held his own pretty well in a fight with one of the NHL's toughest heavyweights. Although Brashear won the bout, Leblond landed a few pretty good shots and earned Brashear's respect enough that the Caps winger gave him a couple of pats on the rear end when it was over.

"All game long he was asking me if I was tough in French," Leblond said. "He said, 'good fight.'"

Devilswede

09-30-2008, 01:43 PM

Photo Gallery (http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=MediaGalleryPlayer&galleryId=7371) from the game.

Notice Clarkson on one of the pics, without a stick...what else is new? :) lol

One7nine

09-30-2008, 03:31 PM

Kinda OT but has anyone used the outside parking lot on Lafayette street across from the parking garage? I heard it wasn't open, but if it is can you pay when you pull up. I normaly take the train but ive got around 20 people coming to th ephilly game on saturday and we are driving in.

Jiri Bicek

09-30-2008, 04:25 PM

- I thought Salmela had a solid game and displayed a cannon of a shot.

- Parise seemed like the only forward worthy of noticing.. The guy hustles no matter where the puck in. Fed Fed skating was pretty lazy and Bergfors played soft

-Ovy is always fun to watch and Green is going to be a stud on D for the Caps

- Sammy Woo tried starting a wave in the upper level during the 3rd lol.. Kinda hard to do with no one up there.. 'A' for effort

- First time I've seen someone shoot a puck and have it go through the shaft of an opposing players stick and shatter it

MoonDragn

09-30-2008, 04:57 PM

Photo Gallery (http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=MediaGalleryPlayer&galleryId=7371) from the game.

Notice Clarkson on one of the pics, without a stick...what else is new? :) lol

He must have been practicing with Oduya again... ;)

njdevsfn95

09-30-2008, 05:11 PM

well then I'm glad that HE lost his scarf. Breaking the man rules. It's not even cold out yet!

i wear it just as another piece of Devils gear. it is 100% worthless against the cold, to be honest.

it also stinks that my helmet as gone and broked itself with my help. :(

bad 24 hours for me and Devils stuff.

Jiri Bicek

09-30-2008, 05:14 PM

well then I'm glad that HE lost his scarf. Breaking the man rules. It's not even cold out yet!

Hey, it can be a supporters scarf and not one of those frilly Abercrombie ones

I have a makeshift supporters one I wear, but don't go anywhere near fashion scarves

Janssen25

09-30-2008, 05:17 PM

why is leblond getting love? i'll give it to him, fighting brashier is not easy task but the guy has no offensive abilities

Do you think the Devils are giving him a shot because they think he is gonna be a 50-goal scorer? He's out there for a specific role, Sutter knows what his role is, and Leblond knows what his role is. With the Devils roster it is always nice to have a guy like him around that will prevent opposing teams from taking liberties. Without Leblond, Brashear would be able to do whatever the hell he wants with no retribution. I've taken time to watch his, skating, hitting and positioning at the last 2 home games I've been at and I must say he has looked solid.

I mean in reality the guy is competing for Mike Rupp's job. Leblond plays with much more passion and intesity, is a drastically better fighter, hits more than Rupp, and plays just as good a position game. Not to mention Rupp's 3g 6a and -10 won't really be missed if Leblond plays.

I see Rupp and Leblond switching off playing time depending on the opponents toughness each night. Not sure what's gonna happen with Vrana but I see him in a total different category than these 2.

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond will be on the opening roster. Book it.

It's a definite possibilty so far.

IMO, Rupp gets waived.

Possible as well. We'll find out soon enough.

Niedermayer21

09-30-2008, 06:13 PM

Why would you put a smallish offensive forward on a 4th line with Holik and Clarkson? That line is best served with a 3rd big body like Rupp or Fedorov.

Jason answered your question but while Holik and Clarkson can bash and crash, Vrana can forecheck like mad with his speed. Also, with Holik and Clarkson, it will give Vrana more room to operate and set Bobby and DC up as they should be driving to the net at every opportunity. Someone has to get them the puck and I don't think Fedorov or Rupp have the playmaking skills that are needed. Also, Vrana can ram a defenseman into the boards. He may be small, but that doesn't mean he can't check. And with his speed, defensemen will be forced to get rid of the puck faster for he will be right on top of them.

I think Vrana, Holik, and Clarkson or Fedorov or Rupp could be a very interesting line.

And very annoying to the opposition. But very fun for Devils fans to watch!!!

Gunnar Stahl 30

09-30-2008, 06:17 PM

Do you think the Devils are giving him a shot because they think he is gonna be a 50-goal scorer? He's out there for a specific role, Sutter knows what his role is, and Leblond knows what his role is. With the Devils roster it is always nice to have a guy like him around that will prevent opposing teams from taking liberties. Without Leblond, Brashear would be able to do whatever the hell he wants with no retribution. I've taken time to watch his, skating, hitting and positioning at the last 2 home games I've been at and I must say he has looked solid.

I mean in reality the guy is competing for Mike Rupp's job. Leblond plays with much more passion and intesity, is a drastically better fighter, hits more than Rupp, and plays just as good a position game. Not to mention Rupp's 3g 6a and -10 won't really be missed if Leblond plays.

I see Rupp and Leblond switching off playing time depending on the opponents toughness each night. Not sure what's gonna happen with Vrana but I see him in a total different category than these 2.

It's a definite possibilty so far.

Possible as well. We'll find out soon enough.

if leblond plays, we cant use our 4th line as often, which would be a shame because they are pretty good, rupp is better than leblond, they probably have equal fighting abilities, maybe slight edge to leblond because of his heart, but rupp is alot more versitle

Niedermayer21

09-30-2008, 06:37 PM

Nice article on Leblond in today's Star-Ledger. Enjoy!!!

JerryGigantic

09-30-2008, 06:39 PM

Here's the Leblond vs Brashear fight:

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The kid did pretty well I must say.

Donald is a beast. Nothing but praise for our kid. He held his own..LOST but held is own. I am still waiting for Donald vs Laraque fight.

Saw it up close... Thing is Brashear got a stick up high on Jay Leach on the previous play, with no call, which really pissed Leach off and he wanted to go with the big fella... But he was bloodied, so the refs made him leave the ice. (Good thing, as he would have been destroyed...)

So, Brent Sutter sent P-L-L-L in immediately and he and the Donald were talking before the draw. It was CLEARLY "go time"...

Leblond is a good fighter. Strong body positioning, throws with both hands, and can REALLY take a punch. And he seems to enjoy it. French and not a *****. Go figure. :sarcasm:

Anyway, when Brashear landed the one to the back of the head that caused the cut, Leblond's eyes kind of glazed over and he appeared nearly out on his feet. But he did not go down. I kept thinking of "Raging Bull"... That no matter how much punishment, he didn't go down.

But he lost the fight, and Brashear made his signature "wiping the hands" move as he skated away, like that was another piece of cake. Glad he gave our kid a little props, though... Seems to have made his day.

JerryGigantic

09-30-2008, 06:47 PM

By the way, for those who werent at the game. Fedorov's secondary assist was very nice. It was a behind the back "billiards" bank pass off the side boards right onto Brookbanks tape (then Brookbank fired it and Vrana got a piece of it I guess for the goal). But it was pretty flippin' sweet because the defenseman went to Fedorov and by putting it behind him and off the wall Brookbank was left with an open lane at the Right point to shoot on goal (because the Dman was on Fedorov).

Indeed, FedFed's finest moment. Crazy pass. Of course, he left another blind one out of the zone, and behind our defenders, earlier in the game. But this one was pretty magical. That is what Fedor brings -- one part genius, one part idiot.

Clarkson Falls Down

09-30-2008, 06:54 PM

I'd like to see FedFed stick. Maybe not be a regular in the lineup for a good portion of the early season, but keep him here to let him get acclimated a bit more.

I can see us carrying two extras. Vrana, FedFed, Clarkson, and Rupp, could all be rotated depending on the opponent if it was up to me.

JerryGigantic

09-30-2008, 07:50 PM

Figured I'd give a quick re-cap on the performances, while any memories are still fresh...

Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner

Zach Parise was the best player on the ice, regardless of only getting the third star (only Devil.) His relentless puck pursuit and nose for the net really stood out. He just shined. We are very lucky to have him. He is a superstar.

Zajac gave a hard nosed effort and was strong with the puck, as usual. It seems like his position is secure. It would be utter insanity to break up this line.

Langenbrunner. Was really surprised not to see his name mentioned EVEN ONCE in 9 pages of this thread... As he played a really fantastic game, second only to Parise on our squad. He seems to be in terrific shape, with tons of jump. I had worried that with his late season slump last year, that he was headed down the slippery slope. Not so. He is totally 100% ready to go.

That line is going to be a monster this year.

Pandolfo - Madden - Clarkson

Pando and Clarkie seemed to be having a contest on who could lose their edge more often, with the prize going to Clarkie, by a nose, not so much for quantity, but the extreme nature of the wipeouts.

Not a stellar night from any of these guys, but nothing too negative either. Kinda meh.

But Clarkie did contribute on the wrap around to feed Parise, and nearly pulled off a combo toe drag move that was pretty awesome. And caused his usual brand of havoc. He got the most attention, for sure. My favorite moment being the three rapid slashes to Brashear's chest, with G-d knows what trash talk. It really seemed like he was trying to goad him into a fight. My reaction was "Okay, really." Clarkson is still alive, so no fight took place.

Fedorov - Vrana - Bergfors

This group saw a decent amount of ice time (14 plus minutes), and was rewarded with a sweet goal. But the performance was pretty hit or miss during the evening.

FedFed was his usual combo of slick and retarded, and just seems to float a little too much. And avoids contact as much as he initiates it, which is disappointing for someone his size. I was rooting for him, screaming a bunch of "FedFed"s from center ice, but his performance was often a little uninspired and occasionally overly risky. Not feeling like he is going to stick for whatever reason.

Bergfors. I have been down on him for the last couple of years, but this game was a little stronger. Nothing too crazy, but he seemed to be skating with more confidence, putting himself in better position, showing more on ice awareness (of course, that is relatively easy next to FedFed, who often appears out of position and carefree...)

Vrana was also up and down, despite having some great moments. But the big difference between him and his line-mates is that he will actually rumble in the corners, muck it up in front of the net, block passing lanes and take the body. The other guys on his line seemed like relative girly-men, despite him being the smallest of the three. He is just a more complete player, and infinitely more valuable as a piece to potentially plug into the final roster. I sure hope he sticks, as he is a really good hockey player.

Leblond - Pelley - Davis

Leblond is a worthless lunk of wood on offense, despite the love he has been receiving. Pelley gave him a lay-up with a sweet crossing pass, and he absolutely couldn't handle it. Despite huge heart in the fight with Brashear, and good fighting skills, he is an old-school enforcer and absolutely nothing more.

Pelley did not help his cause, with a relatively blah night, on a line of scrubs. Although, on the boarding penalty, the guy he hit just EXPLODED off of him. For a relatively compact man, he packs a whallop. I will give him that.

Davis is a pretty good energy type 4th liner. These type of players are stacked like cord wood in every franchise, but he has good size and much better hockey skills than Leblond. But I wouldn't worry too much, as he will never likely play a regular season NHL game for the Devils.

Salvador - Martin

Martin played 26 freakin' minutes of solid hockey. Did pick up a nit-picky penalty, but was otherwise his usual self. He is ready to go.

Sal was feisty as hell with 24 minutes of his own, and despite laying some serious wood, did not get called for any penalties. He was such a good pick up. Smart, tough hockey player. Love the guy.

That pairing can hold it down.

Salmela - Leach

I am pulling for Annsi Salmela to make the squad, so I was hoping for a huge night for him. Didn't really happen, although he held his own. The big moment for him was actually a missed shot. During a pretty solid Devils attack, he unleashed a CANNON from the left point, that unfortunately missed just wide to the left of goal. But it was a monster. The crowd literally gasped. Easily 95-100 MPH. He looked really pissed he missed, which shows his intensity, but he has to show that more often while he still has a chance.

Jay Leach is a player I am relatively unfamiliar with, and despite a willingness to throw down with Brashear (that the refs broke up), and some solid if unspectacular play, he didn't show enough to enter the discussion. Assume he is Lowell bound.

Greene - Brookbank

Andy Greene had a somewhat off night, despite finishing +1. He didn't hit anything, he didn't participate in any offensive rushes, and did very little to distinguish himself. A very conservative performance, more trying to avoid screw-ups than anything -- I guess assuming it is his job to LOSE rather than his to WIN.

Brookbank, who I have been slamming, showed much more intensity. Hid did pick up a really stupid penalty, but he had a great assist, on a beautiful play, and played the body more than any of the defenders. If anyone made a positive impression on the night among the defense, it was Sheldon.

Weekes

Flashy moments aside, do not let the radio play-by-play fool you into thinking Weekes had anything other than a mediocre to terrible night. The Caps simply could not Cap-italize (groan) on the GAPING holes Weekes leaves in net. They missed high into the glass on umpteen near freebies. His body positioning leaves much to be desired, with way too many back-door opportunities (uhh, you know what I am trying to say...) I still wonder if he really is healthy, as Clemmer looked better the other night, which is a terrifying thought.

ALine9900

09-30-2008, 07:54 PM

Figured I'd give a quick re-cap on the performances, while any memories are still fresh...

Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner

Zach Parise was the best player on the ice, regardless of only getting the third star (only Devil.) His relentless puck pursuit and nose for the net really stood out. He just shined. We are very lucky to have him. He is a superstar.

Zajac gave a hard nosed effort and was strong with the puck, as usual. It seems like his position is secure. It would be utter insanity to break up this line.

Langenbrunner. Was really surprised not to see his name mentioned EVEN ONCE in 9 pages of this thread... As he played a really fantastic game, second only to Parise on our squad. He seems to be in terrific shape, with tons of jump. I had worried that with his late season slump last year, that he was headed down the slippery slope. Not so. He is totally 100% ready to go.

That line is going to be a monster this year.

Pandolfo - Madden - Clarkson

Pando and Clarkie seemed to be having a contest on who could lose their edge more often, with the prize going to Clarkie, by a nose, not so much for quantity, but the extreme nature of the wipeouts.

Not a stellar night from any of these guys, but nothing too negative either. Kinda meh.

But Clarkie did contribute on the wrap around to feed Parise, and nearly pulled off a combo toe drag move that was pretty awesome. And caused his usual brand of havoc. He got the most attention, for sure. My favorite moment being the three rapid slashes to Brashear's chest, with G-d knows what trash talk. It really seemed like he was trying to goad him into a fight. My reaction was "Okay, really." Clarkson is still alive, so no fight took place.

Fedorov - Vrana - Bergfors

This group saw a ton of ice time, and was rewarded with a sweet goal. But the performance was pretty hit or miss during the evening.

FedFed was his usual combo of slick and retarded, and just seems to float a little too much. And avoids contact as much as he initiates it, which is disappointing for someone his size. I was rooting for him, screaming a bunch of "FedFed"s from center ice, but his performance was often a little uninspired and occasionally overly risky. Not feeling like he is going to stick for whatever reason.

Bergfors. I have been down on him for the last couple of years, but this game was a little stronger. Nothing too crazy, but he seemed to be skating with more confidence, putting himself in better position, showing more on ice awareness (of course, that is relatively easy next to FedFed, who often appears out of position and carefree...)

Vrana was also up and down, despite having some great moments. But the big difference between him and his line-mates is that he will actually rumble in the corners, muck it up in front of the net, block passing lanes and take the body. The other guys on his line seemed like relative girly-men, despite him being the smallest of the three. He is just a more complete player, and infinitely more valuable as a piece to potentially plug into the final roster. I sure hope he sticks, as he is a really good hockey player.

Leblond - Pelley - Davis

Leblond is a worthless lunk of wood on offense, despite the love he has been receiving. Pelley gave him a lay-up with a sweet crossing pass, and he absolutely couldn't handle it. Despite huge heart in the fight with Brashear, and good fighting skills, he is an old-school enforcer and absolutely nothing more.

Pelley did not help his cause, with a relatively blah night, on a line of scrubs. Although, on the boarding penalty, the guy he hit just EXPLODED off of him. For a relatively compact man, he packs a whallop. I will give him that.

Davis is a pretty good energy type 4th liner. These type of players are stacked like cord wood in every franchise, but he has good size and much better hockey skills than Leblond. But I wouldn't worry too much, as he will never likely play a regular season NHL game for the Devils.

Salvador - Martin

Martin played 26 freakin' minutes of solid hockey. Did pick up a nit-picky penalty, but was otherwise his usual self. He is ready to go.

Sal was feisty as hell with 24 minutes of his own, and despite laying some serious wood, did not get called for any penalties. He was such a good pick up. Smart, tough hockey player. Love the guy.

That pairing can hold it down.

Salmela - Leach

I am pulling for Annsi Salmela to make the squad, so I was hoping for a huge night for him. Didn't really happen, although he held his own. The big moment for him was actually a missed shot. During a pretty solid Devils attack, he unleashed a CANNON from the left point, that unfortunately missed just wide to the left of goal. But it was a monster. The crowd literally gasped. Easily 95-100 MPH. He looked really pissed he missed, which shows his intensity, but he has to show that more often while he still has a chance.

Jay Leach is a player I am relatively unfamiliar with, and despite a willingness to throw down with Brashear (that the refs broke up), and some solid if unspectacular play, he didn't show enough to enter the discussion. Assume he is Lowell bound.

Greene - Brookbank

Andy Greene had a somewhat off night, despite finishing +1. He didn't hit anything, he didn't participate in any offensive rushes, and did very little to distinguish himself. A very conservative performance, more trying to avoid screw-ups than anything -- I guess assuming it is his job to LOSE rather than his to WIN.

Brookbank, who I have been slamming, showed much more intensity. Hid did pick up a really stupid penalty, but he had a great assist, on a beautiful play, and played the body more than any of the defenders. If anyone made a positive impression on the night among the defense, it was Sheldon.

Weekes

Flashy moments aside, do not let the radio play-by-play fool you into thinking Weekes had anything other than a mediocre to terrible night. The Caps simply could not Cap-italize (groan) on the GAPING holes Weekes leaves in net. They missed high into the glass on umpteen near freebies. His body positioning leaves much to be desired, with way too many back-door opportunities (uhh, you know what I am trying to say...) I still wonder if he really is healthy, as Clemmer looked better the other night, which is a terrifying thought.

I am so excited for this top-6...1a and 1b anyone? Maybe (hopefully) Salmela makes the team, Rolston, Langs, Salmela, and Greene (?) would be nice firepower on the PP. Can't wait.