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Brooklyndevil 08-14-2008, 08:18 PM Just received my copy of The Hockey News Year Book. Chere who wrote the Devils article put together his depth chart:
Parise-Rolston-Gionta
Elias-Madden-Langebrunner
Pando-Holik-Zub
Zajac-Rupp-Clarkson
He does go on to say the one of Bergfors or Vrana should make the team.
On defense he has:
Martin-White
Salvador-Oduya
Greene-mottau
But again, he states that Corrente or Salmela should make the team, although Corrente being a mean and tough player, while Salmela being the more offensive skilled defensemen.
What do you good folks think?
Harrison Ford 08-14-2008, 08:26 PM That 4th line would be a waste.
fortheloveof666 08-14-2008, 08:27 PM I think that as poor as he was last year, Madden shouldn't be replacing Zajac as the 2nd line Center just yet.
Madden is a checker, last thing we need is a guy with that style playing on our 2nd line. Sure he can score...but he's also one of the best checking centers in the league, I'd much rather no abandon that completely.
At least not before we even play a game.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-14-2008, 08:31 PM No way in hell. Madden is cemented as the 3rd line center.
guyincognito 08-14-2008, 08:40 PM Just received my copy of The Hockey News Year Book. Chere who wrote the Devils article put together his depth chart:
Parise-Rolston-Gionta
Elias-Madden-Langebrunner
Pando-Holik-Zub
Zajac-Rupp-Clarkson
He does go on to say the one of Bergfors or Vrana should make the team.
On defense he has:
Martin-White
Salvador-Oduya
Greene-mottau
But again, he states that Corrente or Salmela should make the team, although Corrente being a mean and tough player, while Salmela being the more offensive skilled defensemen.
What do you good folks think?
I think Rich has got to start working harder, because his job is in jeopardy. He manages to take our increases to depth and totally wreck them.
Line 1 is wussville. It's going to be anyway, but that is just extremely so. I don't even know how those particular players play off each other.
Line 2 is Elias playing center on the wing, which is what is screwing him up in the first place. The whole point of getting depth is so players like Madden aren't in your top six.
Line 3, if that's going to be how we align, we shouldn't have signed Pando, let alone given him so much money. I guess he sees them as solid man markers and a checking line, but this line is SLOOOOOOWWWWWW. Bobby also can't play the minutes the Devils theory of checking line requires, not even close.
Line 4 is the line 4 everyone was *****ing about last season. I don't know if Zajac is going to end up being in the top 6, but we really need him to be, it allows the lineup to be distributed better. He doesn't have to be great, the best team we've ever fielded had Sarge in the top 6.
Defensively, I don't think we can stack up like that. Our four best defensemen need to be spread between the 3 pairings.
These things tend to be subjective and silly, but he manages to take a growth in depth and make the team look just as bad.
sattar18 08-14-2008, 08:47 PM Just received my copy of The Hockey News Year Book. Chere who wrote the Devils article put together his depth chart:
Parise-Rolston-Gionta
Elias-Madden-Langebrunner
Pando-Holik-Zub
Zajac-Rupp-Clarkson
What do you good folks think?
:facepalm:
but knowing sutter those are prob the lines opening night
:laugh:
The Mad Crapper 08-14-2008, 08:54 PM Parise-Rolston-Elias
Gionta-Zajac-Langebrunner
Zub-Madden-Pando
Rupp-Holik-Clarkson
Bergfors or Vrana will ride the pine waiting for a spot.
Martin-White
Salvador-Oduya
Corrente-Mottau
Green is the 7th. Salmela gets called up when/if there is an injury.
brule2000 08-14-2008, 08:57 PM They're not suggested lines, rather each position rated from top to bottom player.
He's not suggesting Madden centre the second line but that he is the second most important centre on the roster.
He is suggesting Parise is ahead of Elias now as a left wing in the organisation and that Zajac and Zubrus will start the season as wingers.
Jiri Bicek 08-14-2008, 09:21 PM That looks like lines that are put together when you let the CPU manage them in video games
Devils9789 08-14-2008, 09:24 PM That looks like lines that are put together when you let the CPU manage them in video games
Hahaha, so true.
None Shall Pass 08-14-2008, 09:28 PM That looks like lines that are put together when you let the CPU manage them in video games
:nod: Too true.
Elias to Parise 08-14-2008, 09:32 PM A depth chart is somthing completley different than projected lines. Madden might be our third line center but he is without a doubt our second best center.
guyincognito 08-14-2008, 09:58 PM They're not suggested lines, rather each position rated from top to bottom player.
He's not suggesting Madden centre the second line but that he is the second most important centre on the roster.
He is suggesting Parise is ahead of Elias now as a left wing in the organisation and that Zajac and Zubrus will start the season as wingers.
Still, it's silly. Holik and Rupp are not more important C's to the organization than Zajac, who has been rendered so useless by them that he's a throwaway 4th line wing.
David Puddy 08-14-2008, 11:27 PM Coach Sutter said in an interview with Tom Gulitti about a month ago that Holik would play about 8 to 10 minutes per game, so he isn't going to be on the 3rd Line unless the head coach changed his mind.
I like the idea of:
Elias - Rolston - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo - Madden - Zubrus
Rupp/Vrana - Holik - Clarkson
Late in games I would love to see Holik moved from the 4th Line to center the 2nd Line for two or three shifts. Parise - Holik - Langenbrunner is a good second option shutdown line.
Parise could make that 2nd Line more of a co-1st Line. He brings a lot of energy, and I expect bounce-back seasons from both Langenbrunner and Zajac.
Classic Devil 08-15-2008, 12:10 AM That fourth line would be completely useless.
Harrison Ford 08-15-2008, 12:12 AM That fourth line would be completely useless.
That 4th line would be a waste.
Great minds think alike. ;)
although it doesnt really take a great mind to figure out how bad that 4th line is.
Oh well, its depth chart, not lines.
Clarkson Falls Down 08-15-2008, 12:13 AM A depth chart is somthing completley different than projected lines. Madden might be our third line center but he is without a doubt our second best center.
Then how do you explain him having Rupp over Zajac then on the center depth?
Chere has to be going senile: Sutter said that Holik will be playing 8-10 minutes a night. And you're not going to be doing that playing the 3rd line.
fortheloveof666 08-15-2008, 12:13 AM That fourth line would be completely useless.
well it's been quite a few years since it's actually been useFUL. so it wouldn't be much of a change of pace.
Brooklyndevil 08-15-2008, 08:52 AM Then how do you explain him having Rupp over Zajac then on the center depth?
Chere has to be going senile: Sutter said that Holik will be playing 8-10 minutes a night. And you're not going to be doing that playing the 3rd line.
I'm with you regarding Zajac, but Chere did make a good point by saying he thought Zajac had a bit to much pressure being penciled in as the 2nd line center. Although, he did a good job in his first season.
CMac17 08-15-2008, 08:59 AM I'm with you regarding Zajac, but Chere did make a good point by saying he thought Zajac had a bit to much pressure being penciled in as the 2nd line center. Although, he do a good job in his first season.
Not ready to give up on Zajac just yet, but curious - how do you guys think he would do as the winger with Pando and Madden?? I would be excited to see Langenbrunner give it a try too - Madden just still has the legs to turn that line into one that can play D and then go straight for the jugular on the same shift and I see unlimited potential for goals from a Langs/Madden combo...
...but what about Zajac on there?
Mr Bojanglez 08-15-2008, 09:06 AM I'm not advocating this, and I know its a depth chart. But seeing everyone get mad at the *potential* lineups got me interested.
That second line is... pretty f-ing serious. I would think thats one of the most potent, 2-way lines out there. Our third line is interesting... could be hit/miss. It allows Pando to be the scoring guy, and the other 2 to be the goons/crashers. But like someone said, our 4th line is garbage.
Still, would be interesting to see that 2nd line
The Jersey Devil 08-15-2008, 09:10 AM This reminds me of NHL08 when you hit the best lines button and your lines totally go to hell.
Mr Bojanglez 08-15-2008, 09:12 AM I'm with you regarding Zajac, but Chere did make a good point by saying he thought Zajac had a bit to much pressure being penciled in as the 2nd line center. Although, he do a good job in his first season.
thats cause there were no expectations, really. Then his sophmore year everyone expected him to drop 60 points
Clarkson Falls Down 08-15-2008, 10:02 AM I'm not advocating this, and I know its a depth chart. But seeing everyone get mad at the *potential* lineups got me interested.
That second line is... pretty f-ing serious. I would think thats one of the most potent, 2-way lines out there. Our third line is interesting... could be hit/miss. It allows Pando to be the scoring guy, and the other 2 to be the goons/crashers. But like someone said, our 4th line is garbage.
Still, would be interesting to see that 2nd line
You're not going to get the max out of Elias with him on that line - and then by game 20 of the season, we'll have posters on here *****ing and moaning about his contract.
I don't see 2 legit scoring lines on there. I see one scoring line, 2 checking lines, and one waste of a line.
Big#D 08-15-2008, 10:28 AM I agree that this depth chart would probably never make it as a line up because the fourth line is too weak. But given Sutter's penchant for changing up lines, I wonder how many lineups we could make using only players from the Devils/Lowell who have a decent shot at making the team next year. I have the list of the team as follows:
Likely/Sure Spots (11 of 12):
Holik C
Madden C(LR)
Rolston C(LR)
Zajac C(LR)
Zubrus C(RL)
Pandolfo L
Elias LC
Parise LC
Clarkson R
Gionta R
Langebrunner R
Spot up for grab (1 of 12):
Fedorov C(LR)
Rupp C(LR)
Vrana C(LR)
Bergfors R
So using the top 11 plus one of the additions, what could we have. Note, you could also assume that Clarkson's spot is up for grabs, making 10 sure spots and 2 up for grabs.
Big#D 08-15-2008, 10:32 AM These are the ones I could come up with so far. I have Parise and Elias being interchangeable as 1st and 2nd line LW (though based on Sutter's comments Elias will probably be on the Rolston line).
Elias/Parise - Rolston - Gionta
Parise/Elias - Zajac - Bergfors
Pandolfo - Madden - Langebrunner
Zubrus - Holik - Clarkson
Elias/Parise - Rolston - Gionta
Parise/Elias - Zajac - Langebrunner
Pandolfo - Madden - Fedorov
Zubrus - Holik - Clarkson
Elias/Parise - Rolston - Gionta
Parise/Elias - Zajac - Langebrunner
Pandolfo - Madden - Zubrus
Vrana - Holik - Clarkson
Elias/Parise - Rolston - Gionta
Parise/Elias - Madden - Langebrunner
Pandolfo - Holik - Zubrus
Vrana - Zajac - Clarkson
Elias/Parise - Rolston - Gionta
Parise/Elias - Madden - Langebrunner
Pandolfo - Holik - Zubrus
Fedorov - Zajac - Clarkson
OnDaMark 08-15-2008, 10:41 AM Coach Sutter said in an interview with Tom Gulitti about a month ago that Holik would play about 8 to 10 minutes per game, so he isn't going to be on the 3rd Line unless the head coach changed his mind.
I like the idea of:
Elias - Rolston - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo - Madden - Zubrus
Rupp/Vrana - Holik - Clarkson
Late in games I would love to see Holik moved from the 4th Line to center the 2nd Line for two or three shifts. Parise - Holik - Langenbrunner is a good second option shutdown line.
Parise could make that 2nd Line more of a co-1st Line. He brings a lot of energy, and I expect bounce-back seasons from both Langenbrunner and Zajac.
I like these lines. I don't like Chere's choice of lines.
Brooklyndevil 08-15-2008, 12:20 PM This would be my hope for the forward lines, because I really would like to see Vrana make the team and just maybe he can create some chemistry with his fellow country-man Elias. Also want Corrente to make it has well. We need more grit on the defense
Forwards:
Elias-Rolston-Vrana
Parise-Zajac-Gionta
Pando-Madden Lagenbrunner
Zub-Holik-Clarkson
Defense:
Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Corrente
White-Mottau/Greene/Salmela
4check22 08-15-2008, 03:09 PM The Patrik Elias demise continues. If that is our second line, Elias scores 55 points in 82 games. :shakehead Say it ain't so, Sutter.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-15-2008, 05:18 PM The Patrik Elias demise continues. If that is our second line, Elias scores 55 points in 82 games. :shakehead Say it ain't so, Sutter.
No way in hell Madden plays in our top six. Chere is just being dumb.
None Shall Pass 08-15-2008, 07:06 PM You guys are looking way too far into this. It's a depth chart, not proposed lines. Madden should be center #1 as far as I'm concerned, in terms of depth and importance.
Clarkson Falls Down 08-15-2008, 07:14 PM You guys are looking way too far into this. It's a depth chart, not proposed lines. Madden should be center #1 as far as I'm concerned, in terms of depth and importance.
I agree. I can't take this seriously when Mike Rupp is on the depth chart at Center over Travis Zajac. Surely, this is either a poor depth chart, or a poor attempt at making the lines for this season by Richard Chere.
I'll go with the former.
brule2000 08-15-2008, 08:06 PM I agree. I can't take this seriously when Mike Rupp is on the depth chart at Center over Travis Zajac. Surely, this is either a poor depth chart, or a poor attempt at making the lines for this season by Richard Chere.
I'll go with the former.
He isn't at centre over Zajac. Parise, Elias and Pandolfo are at left wing over Zajac. Rupp is at centre behind Rolston, Madden and Holik.
Chere is saying he considers Zajac not yet suited to centre.
When it comes to the games the paucity of centres means a winger (as defined by the chart) will centre the second line, probably Elias or Zajac.
If you like, the chart is illustrating the shortage of centres on the team because Zajac and Zubrus were found wanting there last season. I assume Vrana or Pelley (has he re-signed?) would be fifth on his chart at that position.
Players often enter an organisation as centres (it's where the talented juniors play) but are better suited at wing at the NHL level, especially when they are still lacking experience. Remember Parise and Bergfors were both drafted as centres.
Classic Devil 08-15-2008, 08:10 PM He isn't at centre over Zajac. Parise, Elias and Pandolfo are at left wing over Zajac. Rupp is at centre behind Rolston, Madden and Holik.
Chere is saying he considers Zajac not yet suited to centre.
When it comes to the games the paucity of centres means a winger (as defined by the chart) will centre the second line, probably Elias or Zajac.
If you like, the chart is illustrating the shortage of centres on the team because Zajac and Zubrus were found wanting there last season. I assume Vrana or Pelley (has he re-signed?) would be fifth on his chart at that position.
Players often enter an organisation as centres (it's where the talented juniors play) but are better suited at wing at the NHL level, especially when they are still lacking experience. Remember Parise and Bergfors were both drafted as centres.
Chere is an idiot. More clearly in this article than ever.
Oh, and I'm certain that Bergfors was drafted as a wing, though I can't remember which one.
guyincognito 08-15-2008, 08:54 PM He isn't at centre over Zajac. Parise, Elias and Pandolfo are at left wing over Zajac. Rupp is at centre behind Rolston, Madden and Holik.
Chere is saying he considers Zajac not yet suited to centre.
When it comes to the games the paucity of centres means a winger (as defined by the chart) will centre the second line, probably Elias or Zajac.
If you like, the chart is illustrating the shortage of centres on the team because Zajac and Zubrus were found wanting there last season. I assume Vrana or Pelley (has he re-signed?) would be fifth on his chart at that position.
Players often enter an organisation as centres (it's where the talented juniors play) but are better suited at wing at the NHL level, especially when they are still lacking experience. Remember Parise and Bergfors were both drafted as centres.
Well, why would a fourth line wing be suited to play C (even though he actually is already a C) when there's upper line wings that are also suited to play C?
It's a really ****** chart.
DevilsFan38 08-15-2008, 10:30 PM Chere is an idiot. More clearly in this article than ever.
Oh, and I'm certain that Bergfors was drafted as a wing, though I can't remember which one.
I'm almost positive Bergfors was drafted as a RW.
Zajac on the depth chart at 4th line wing is mind boggling. As far as I know he's played center exclusively both in the NHL and in college. And his rookie year he had 17-25-42. Rupp, who Chere at center, put up 6-6-12 in his best year.
Clarkson Falls Down 08-16-2008, 01:04 AM He isn't at centre over Zajac. Parise, Elias and Pandolfo are at left wing over Zajac. Rupp is at centre behind Rolston, Madden and Holik.
Chere is saying he considers Zajac not yet suited to centre.
When it comes to the games the paucity of centres means a winger (as defined by the chart) will centre the second line, probably Elias or Zajac.
If you like, the chart is illustrating the shortage of centres on the team because Zajac and Zubrus were found wanting there last season. I assume Vrana or Pelley (has he re-signed?) would be fifth on his chart at that position.
Players often enter an organisation as centres (it's where the talented juniors play) but are better suited at wing at the NHL level, especially when they are still lacking experience. Remember Parise and Bergfors were both drafted as centres.
I still don't get that. Chere is retarded: any idiot can see that Zajac is a better Center than Rupp. If Zajac is going to be moved to the wing, he may as well be dealt because he seems like he's the player on this team that cannot play the wing.
I've been harder on Zajac than anybody on the board here, but I still want to see him get a shot playing next to people with offensive ability.
BenedictGomez 08-16-2008, 01:37 AM That 4th line would be a waste.
Cant we just push Rupp to wing and have:
Rupp - Holik - Clarkson
That could be the carnage line. Or maybe put FF in there if he sticks since he's supposedly a bit "touched" in the head.
Richer's Ghost 08-16-2008, 02:02 AM Cant we just push Rupp to wing and have:
Rupp - Holik - Clarkson
That could be the carnage line. Or maybe put FF in there if he sticks since he's supposedly a bit "touched" in the head.
Win. Crash line 2.0
brule2000 08-16-2008, 06:09 AM Man, you guys really are having difficulty grasping the concept of depth charts.
This is at least partly the fault of THN, as they have printed it in the same format as a list of lines (as posted here ad infinitum).
Basically, each position is listed and the players within that position are placed in order of importance to the organisation.
Zajac is not being called a fourth line left-wing. Rupp is not being compared to him in any way at all.
I think Zajac will be an NHL centre in due course and I think there were good signs towards the end of last season that he was starting to improve there. However, it wouldn't surprise me if he plays a fair bit of wing this year.
A true depth chart would have maybe 6 left wings, 4 centres and 5 right wings and wouldn't cause all this confusion. This one has been trimmed to feature 12 players (4 in each position).
To simplify; forget about the notion of lines entirely. The only disagreement would be if Travis should be listed at centre. Ironically, if he had been, I'm sure Rupp would have been listed at left wing to fit the THN format and the only change to the list would have been swapping their names.
We would then no doubt be saying "Zajac shouldn't be on the fourth line"; which of course would not be what the chart was meant to suggest anyway.:rant:
Brooklyndevil 08-16-2008, 01:49 PM I have a feeling that Fedor will take Rupp's place in the line-up.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-16-2008, 01:54 PM I have a feeling that Fedor will take Rupp's place in the line-up.
That'd be nice. Comparable size, but Fedor has more skill.
Das Uber 08-16-2008, 02:11 PM I have a feeling that Fedor will take Rupp's place in the line-up.
I dunno, that's a tough one. I'd like to hear Fedor call Paul Mara a "****ing *****" before I made that determination.
brule2000 08-16-2008, 05:27 PM I dunno, that's a tough one. I'd like to hear Fedor call Paul Mara a "****ing *****" before I made that determination.
That would sound even better in a Russian accent.:laugh:
Do you see him in a Holik type role? Probably with a deeper voice though.;)
Niedermayer21 08-17-2008, 01:04 AM Coach Sutter said in an interview with Tom Gulitti about a month ago that Holik would play about 8 to 10 minutes per game, so he isn't going to be on the 3rd Line unless the head coach changed his mind.
I like the idea of:
Elias - Rolston - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo - Madden - Zubrus
Rupp/Vrana - Holik - Clarkson
Late in games I would love to see Holik moved from the 4th Line to center the 2nd Line for two or three shifts. Parise - Holik - Langenbrunner is a good second option shutdown line.
Parise could make that 2nd Line more of a co-1st Line. He brings a lot of energy, and I expect bounce-back seasons from both Langenbrunner and Zajac.
I understand the difference between a depth chart and a lineup. Just wanted to say that I like these forward line combos. Still, would like to see Lou get a true playmaking center who can score the odd goal. Someone like Scott Gomez. Too bad we couldn't keep him because now I hate him. Daymond Langkow would be fine. Is he signed?
Is Petr Vrana ready for the first line? Is there a first line center we could get for Brian Gionta?
And we need a stud defenseman.
Elias--???--Rolston/Zubrus
Parise--Zajac--Langs
Pando--Madden--Zubrus/Rolston
Rupp/Vrana--Holik--Clarkson
Pelley
Martin--Salvador
???--White
Brookbank/Corrente--Oduya
Mottau
Marty
Weekes
We can use Vish, Gio, and Greene, along with draft picks and a few prospects (that includes Bergfors if we are to get the value we desire) to get that first line center and stud defenseman.
Names, please! Thank you!!!!
Niedermayer21 08-17-2008, 01:09 AM I have a feeling that Fedor will take Rupp's place in the line-up.
Does Rupp have a two-way contract? If so, we can give Fedor a tryout on the fourth line. If not, I may stick with Rupp. He has a lot of character and knows his job. Fedor will need a great camp to beat out Rupper. Just my opinion.
David Puddy 08-17-2008, 10:34 AM Does Rupp have a two-way contract? If so, we can give Fedor a tryout on the fourth line. If not, I may stick with Rupp. He has a lot of character and knows his job. Fedor will need a great camp to beat out Rupper. Just my opinion.Rupp can hit, fight and also play center if needed. Fedor had 5 Hits for the Rangers in 3 GP in 2005-06, so that might be something that he can do as well.
However, The Devils Repairman, I believe it was, posted a link to an article about a Fedor Fedorov getting bumped into in a pub by new Manitoba Moose player Kevin Bieska. Fedor asked Bieska to step outside, which Bieska did, and Fedor went down with one punch.
Fredo Fedorov also had his nose broken outside a nightclub in Florida just before he was put on waivers by the New York Rangers in 2005.
Brooklyndevil 08-17-2008, 10:35 AM Does Rupp have a two-way contract? If so, we can give Fedor a tryout on the fourth line. If not, I may stick with Rupp. He has a lot of character and knows his job. Fedor will need a great camp to beat out Rupper. Just my opinion.
Not sure about the two way contract. But I believe that Fedor, if he makes the team will get the nod as the extra forward due to his size, which Rupp has as well, but it sounds like Fedor brings more skill, while Rupp brings a pretty bad pair of hands.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-17-2008, 10:55 AM I don't think Fedor will want to play fourth line minutes, and he especially won't want to be the extra forward. Unless he has an incredible camp and makes the top six, I think he goes back to Russia.
Niedermayer21 08-18-2008, 12:26 AM I don't think Fedor will want to play fourth line minutes, and he especially won't want to be the extra forward. Unless he has an incredible camp and makes the top six, I think he goes back to Russia.
If Fedor Fedorov thinks he is his brother and is some kind of Prima Donna, let him go. I like the fact that Lou is willing to gamble on him. Fedor signed a one-way contract as far as I know. If he doesn't make the Devils, away he goes--I believe.
No room for attitude on this team. Lou and Sutter won't put up with it.
If Lou rolls craps with Fedor, so be it. But at least he is willing to roll the dice and place his bet.
As for our fourth line, it is the new "Crash Line." Rupp has more talent than Mike Peluso. Bobby Holik is not as good as he was back in 1994 and 1995. And David Clarkson is no Randy "The Rocket" McKay, but he does have some skill. Still, it is a damn good fourth line.
BTW, were the Hanson brothers "fourth liners" in "Slap Shot?" If so, they had to be the greatest fourth line in the history of hockey movies. ;);)
Jason MacIsaac 09-09-2008, 11:38 AM Didn't want to create a new thread. There are many options for the Devils this year and many of these options depend how well Rolston plays center, I dont feel he will do well at center so Elias will be back.
Brian Rolston - Patrik Elias - Brian Gionta
Zach Parise - Travis Zajac - Danius Zubrus
Jay Pandolfo - John Madden - Jamie Langenbrunner
Petr Vrana - Bobby Holik - David Clarkson
Mike Rupp
Paul Martin - Johnny Oduya
Colin White - Matt Corrente
Bryce Salvador - Mike Mottau
Andy Greene
Martin Brodeur
Kevin Weekes
Classic Devil 09-09-2008, 11:58 AM Didn't want to create a new thread. There are many options for the Devils this year and many of these options depend how well Rolston plays center, I dont feel he will do well at center so Elias will be back.
Brian Rolston - Patrik Elias - Brian Gionta
Zach Parise - Travis Zajac - Danius Zubrus
Jay Pandolfo - John Madden - Jamie Langenbrunner
Petr Vrana - Bobby Holik - David Clarkson
Mike Rupp
Paul Martin - Johnny Oduya
Colin White - Matt Corrente
Bryce Salvador - Mike Mottau
Andy Greene
Martin Brodeur
Kevin Weekes
Do you think Vrana will beat out Fedorov for a regular roster spot? I suppose it probably will come down to the two of them.
Big#D 09-09-2008, 12:13 PM Do you think Vrana will beat out Fedorov for a regular roster spot? I suppose it probably will come down to the two of them.
The two of them, with the other going back to Euroland. The forward reserves going to two of Rupp (almost guaranteed), Pelley (most likely second choice), and *gulp* Tallackson.
Jason MacIsaac 09-09-2008, 12:18 PM Do you think Vrana will beat out Fedorov for a regular roster spot? I suppose it probably will come down to the two of them.
I think he will. Vrana can be used in a any situation really.
Classic Devil 09-09-2008, 12:30 PM I think he will. Vrana can be used in a any situation really.
The only thing that I really like about Fedorov is his size. He brings a physical aspect to the game that Vrana just doesn't.
Richer's Ghost 09-09-2008, 12:36 PM That looks like lines that are put together when you let the CPU manage them in video games
+L3 for best lines
[are you sure?]
Yes/No
Devilswede 09-09-2008, 12:48 PM The only thing that I really like about Fedorov is his size. He brings a physical aspect to the game that Vrana just doesn't.
Although Federov is big, he really isn't that physical. He's sort of like a Viktor Kozlov.
Vrana is like Sarge, he can play any role on any line, which is why I also think that he should make the team. It wouldn't hurt his development because he adjusts really well.
Classic Devil 09-09-2008, 12:50 PM Although Federov is big, he really isn't that physical. He's sort of like a Viktor Kozlov.
Vrana is like Sarge, he can play any role on any line, which is why I also think that he should make the team. It wouldn't hurt his development because he adjusts really well.
I liked Viktor Kozlov when he played on the fourth line. He cycled the puck really well.
britdevil 09-09-2008, 01:13 PM I think we may be getting ahead of ourselves with Corrente. It takes a special talent to make the jump straight from Juniors, and he did only play 20 something games last year.
If he makes it, then great. But I cant see it happening.
Classic Devil 09-09-2008, 01:16 PM I think we may be getting ahead of ourselves with Corrente. It takes a special talent to make the jump straight from Juniors, and he did only play 20 something games last year.
If he makes it, then great. But I cant see it happening.
The reason I'm optimistic is that all reports indicate that he was impressive last preseason, to the point where he was given consideration; but that he was given consideration the year before.
britdevil 09-09-2008, 01:19 PM The reason I'm optimistic is that all reports indicate that he was impressive last preseason, to the point where he was given consideration; but that he was given consideration the year before.
Oh I know that, and he looks to have an NHL body allready. Which is mighty impressive...
I just dont think we should be setting ourselves up for dissapointment. If Sutter feels he should get some AHL games under his belt first, only to be called up later in the season and make a 'Greene-esque' impact, then so be it.
Devilswede 09-09-2008, 01:32 PM Oh I know that, and he looks to have an NHL body allready. Which is mighty impressive...
I just dont think we should be setting ourselves up for dissapointment. If Sutter feels he should get some AHL games under his belt first, only to be called up later in the season and make a 'Greene-esque' impact, then so be it.
That's exactly what I think will happen. Corrente will only benefit from playing a handful of hames down in the AHL, it just can't hurt his development.
That would really be the smartest thing to do, even if he's ready for the NHL right now. Let him get used to the pro game down in Lowell and then bring him up and ease him in into a regular spot.
DevilsFan38 09-09-2008, 01:42 PM Didn't want to create a new thread. There are many options for the Devils this year and many of these options depend how well Rolston plays center, I dont feel he will do well at center so Elias will be back.
Brian Rolston - Patrik Elias - Brian Gionta
Zach Parise - Travis Zajac - Danius Zubrus
Jay Pandolfo - John Madden - Jamie Langenbrunner
Petr Vrana - Bobby Holik - David Clarkson
Mike Rupp
Paul Martin - Johnny Oduya
Colin White - Matt Corrente
Bryce Salvador - Mike Mottau
Andy Greene
Martin Brodeur
Kevin Weekes
I like it. All four lines are really solid (it'll be awesome to have such great depth this year). I might switch Zubrus and Langenbrunner, and I think Fedorov might make the team over Vrana, but that looks really good.
The defense still makes me cringe a little, but IF Corrente can make the jump to the NHL it might not be so bad. And I'm still holding out a little hope that Greene will find his game again.
ALine9900 09-09-2008, 01:45 PM I like it. All four lines are really solid (it'll be awesome to have such great depth this year). I might switch Zubrus and Langenbrunner, and I think Fedorov might make the team over Vrana, but that looks really good.
The defense still makes me cringe a little, but IF Corrente can make the jump to the NHL it might not be so bad. And I'm still holding out a little hope that Greene will find his game again.
That would be a pretty solid defense if they could, yo what's up JA?
britdevil 09-09-2008, 01:48 PM That would be a pretty solid defense if they could, yo what's up JA?
The Devil's are his second team. He's just a huge critic...
ALine9900 09-09-2008, 01:50 PM The Devil's are his second team. He's just a huge critic...
I think he's spying on our depth chart...
Brooklyndevil 09-09-2008, 01:51 PM I'll give it a shot.
Elias-Rolston-Vrana
Parise-Zajac-Gionta
Pando-Madden-Lang
Zub-Holik-Clarkson
Rupp/Fedor
Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Salmela
White-Corrente
Mottau-Greene
ALine9900 09-09-2008, 01:55 PM Rolston-Elias-Gionta
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Fedorov
Zubrus-Holik-Clarkson
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