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Jonathan. 08-08-2008, 02:48 PM http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=835154
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=835173
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=819792
Rivals has it's preview up for the Big East.
Can't say I truly disagree with any of the points, though I'd have Schiano higher on the coaching rankings. Yes, he has new people to work with, but I wouldn't trade him for any other coach in the Big East.
Pretty excited to see how this team will bounce back after a sub-par season last year and after losing Ray Rice. I thought Teel looked much better last year and I hope we see more of the same this year.
Mr Bojanglez 08-08-2008, 02:54 PM Rice went to the NFL, yea? Since I graduated I haven't been following as much. Ironically thats when they started to do well. I miss the days of walking up, day of, to an empty building. Filled stadium is cool too.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 08-08-2008, 03:02 PM A down year for the BigEast as well as Rutgers.
fortheloveof666 08-08-2008, 04:34 PM Only team I could see dominating the East this year is WVU, Pat White is still there...and Noel Devine might be the fastest player in the NCAA. Their biggest flaw is not having a great receiving corps and their defense is pretty soft.
But in a shootout game, I'd still take WVU.
I hope Rutgers can at least sneak into a bowl game and keep things up, but it's definitely going to be hard. Thankfully they still have great receiving and a solid QB so it will help their chances some. But it's going to be hard to ground and pound teams now without a workhorse like Ray Rice getting touches.
I'll be very interested in seeing how USF fares.
guyincognito 08-08-2008, 04:51 PM Only team I could see dominating the East this year is WVU, Pat White is still there...and Noel Devine might be the fastest player in the NCAA. Their biggest flaw is not having a great receiving corps and their defense is pretty soft.
But in a shootout game, I'd still take WVU.
I hope Rutgers can at least sneak into a bowl game and keep things up, but it's definitely going to be hard. Thankfully they still have great receiving and a solid QB so it will help their chances some. But it's going to be hard to ground and pound teams now without a workhorse like Ray Rice getting touches.
I'll be very interested in seeing how USF fares.
They'll get in a bowl. I think the league has six bids, they'll get enough wins, and all they have to do is stay ahead of one team (since 'Cuse should be forced to give up their program, I think they have 1 recruit or something insane like that).... since there's a few mediocre teams and Dave Wannstedt can recruit, but he coaches like me, they'll scrape together the 3 or 4 conference wins they need.
Cincy got kicked in the nuts today, too.
Of course, all of the Big East Bowls other than the BCS game pretty much blow.
DevsOwnYou 08-08-2008, 05:19 PM A down year for the BigEast as well as Rutgers.
I disagree.
RU is better than what most "experts" have predicted.
WVU, USF are very good. Pitt will be good finally, UConn, Cincy and Louisville are solid teams too.
RU has a very tough 3 games start, the first two on national tv, ESPN.
Babycakes92689 08-08-2008, 05:34 PM i'm pumped for the season i'm an incoming freshamn at RU nd i just purchased season last week!
Darius Dangleaitis 08-08-2008, 05:39 PM WVU, USF, Rutgers, Pitt, and possibly Cincinnati will be decent this year.
I'm interested to see how Devine will do as the starter at WV. He's a little guy but boy, can he run and make people miss.
I think USF is terribly overrated, and I was in agony last year when they were actually ranked NUMBER TWO in the entire god forsaken country. Too bad Rutgers had to knock them off:handclap:.
Teel and Underwood are studs, and I think Kordell Young could end up being pretty damn good himself.
Clarkson Falls Down 08-08-2008, 05:46 PM WVU, USF, Rutgers, Pitt, and possibly Cincinnati will be decent this year.
I'm interested to see how Devine will do as the starter at WV. He's a little guy but boy, can he run and make people miss.
I think USF is terribly overrated, and I was in agony last year when they were actually ranked NUMBER TWO in the entire god forsaken country. Too bad Rutgers had to knock them off:handclap:.
Teel and Underwood are studs, and I think Kordell Young could end up being pretty damn good himself.
Underwood is quite overrated, Britt is the better receiver and he's going to be the better pro.
I'm not worried too much about the running attack to be honest with you. I think Young is going to do an admirable job. My question is how the O-line can jell. Only 2 starters remain and that's a concern.
I'm not worried about the defense either because it stunk last year. The pass rush and our group of linebackers left much to be desired. Also, I haven't seen a worse 3rd down team as RU was last year.
My prediction: 9-4 and another middling bowl.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-08-2008, 05:49 PM Underwood is quite overrated, Britt is the better receiver and he's going to be the better pro.
I'm not worried too much about the running attack to be honest with you. I think Young is going to do an admirable job. My question is how the O-line can jell. Only 2 starters remain and that's a concern.
I'm not worried about the defense either because it stunk last year. The pass rush and our group of linebackers left much to be desired. Also, I haven't seen a worse 3rd down team as RU was last year.
My prediction: 9-4 and another middling bowl.
I think you're right that Britt will be the better pro, as Underwood would have to bulk up some, and won't be able to blow by receivers in the pros like he does in college.
PromNite 08-08-2008, 06:20 PM http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m59/susieq3687/usfbulls.gif
Fear the Bull.
That is all.
/USF alum :)
Harrison Ford 08-08-2008, 06:20 PM The logo is pretty badass. But im RU all the way.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-08-2008, 06:22 PM http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m59/susieq3687/usfbulls.gif
Fear the Bull.
That is all.
/USF alum :)
I guess, as a Miami fan, I'm just disgruntled by the fact that we aren't the best team in Florida anymore:cry::cry::cry:.
Watch out though, we have a LOAD of young talent coming in. In my opinion, we could win the ACC in '09.
fortheloveof666 08-08-2008, 06:25 PM The logo is pretty badass. But im RU all the way.
Yeah I like it as well, although I still feel like the color scheme doesn't match the team name whatsoever.
ILikeItVeryMuch 08-08-2008, 07:10 PM USF has such a sick logo, its a shame I hate them :(
PromNite 08-08-2008, 07:15 PM Yeah I like it as well, although I still feel like the color scheme doesn't match the team name whatsoever.
Green and gold doesn't match their logo?
Harrison Ford 08-08-2008, 07:44 PM Not many Bulls are green and gold. I think thats what he meant.
OnDaMark 08-08-2008, 08:55 PM Sorry to post, but Rutgers will not be all that great this season.
Harrison Ford 08-08-2008, 09:00 PM Apology not accepted.
:sarcasm:
holy roman empire 08-08-2008, 10:35 PM Not good enough to win the Big East title yet, but good enough to win 7+ games and get back to another mediocre Bowl game, which, isn't the worst thing ever, recruiting has been good this offseason and will pay dividends in a couple of years, just keep it together and keep Coach Schiano around.
Jonathan. 08-08-2008, 10:38 PM Sorry to post, but Rutgers will not be all that great this season.
Who cares? This thread isn't made to pimp them as National Champs, but to discuss them during the course of the year.
Sorry to post, but your post is stupid.
Jonathan. 08-08-2008, 10:39 PM REALLY excited on Anthony Davis this year, also.
The kid is going to be a complete and utter stud. Cannot wait to see how much he improves again as he did last year when he played.
ILikeItVeryMuch 08-08-2008, 10:41 PM Sorry to post, but Rutgers will not be all that great this season.
let me guess...Boston College?
Thank god you are a Devils fan because your Sox and Pats hullabaloo stinks and I dont like it. :naughty:
guyincognito 08-08-2008, 10:42 PM let me guess...Boston College?
Thank god you are a Devils fan because your Sox and Pats hullabaloo stinks and I dont like it. :naughty:
I wonder how Glen Foley likes selling cars.
edit: I also wonder if there's anyone old enough to understand why I'm referencing Glen Foley. :)
ILikeItVeryMuch 08-08-2008, 10:47 PM I wonder how Glen Foley likes selling cars.
edit: I also wonder if there's anyone old enough to understand why I'm referencing Glen Foley. :)
you mean the legendary NJ Gladiators quarterback?
Alcoolique 08-08-2008, 11:36 PM I guess, as a Miami fan, I'm just disgruntled by the fact that we aren't the best team in Florida anymore:cry::cry::cry:.
Watch out though, we have a LOAD of young talent coming in. In my opinion, we could win the ACC in '09.
Hell yeah :D!
HURRICANES REBUILDING FTW ! :P
guyincognito 08-08-2008, 11:55 PM you mean the legendary NJ Gladiators quarterback?
I did not know that.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-09-2008, 12:31 AM Hell yeah :D!
HURRICANES REBUILDING FTW ! :P
http://www.hurricanesportstravel.com/cached/_images/fit/709x317/3289d6466a2cd8483042263f956c9f7d/miami-body-photo-3621.jpg
Ok Canes...
SCOTTIESTEVENS 08-09-2008, 01:19 AM I disagree.
RU is better than what most "experts" have predicted.
WVU, USF are very good. Pitt will be good finally, UConn, Cincy and Louisville are solid teams too.
RU has a very tough 3 games start, the first two on national tv, ESPN.
I'm not saying it'll be a "bad" year, just subpar compared the previous few.
WVU will be top notch again, but Louisville has dropped off a lot, definately since last year and the year before. USF has been rising, but I don't think they are the caliber Lville was 2 years ago. Uconn, Pitt, RU and Cincy are all very average, solid teams. I bet 1 will have an above average year, and 1 or 2 will not meet expectations. But I'm pretty sure RU won't have as good of a year as last year, maybe around the same? The BigEast is getting more solid from top the bottom, no doubt, but IDK.. they only really have 1 top tier team, possibly a 2nd in USF... they are very athletic.
Brad Murphy 08-09-2008, 08:59 AM It surprises me how many people are still so high on west virginia. They lost Slaton and their new head coach was a questionable hire at best.
NewYorkDevil 08-09-2008, 10:39 AM It surprises me how many people are still so high on west virginia. They lost Slaton and their new head coach was a questionable hire at best.
As long as Pat White is QB, WVU is always in the BCS hunt. IMO, Pitt is wayyyy overrated. After one upset w/the back up QB in for WV they're all of a sudden BE champ potential. Please. Rutgers will be under the radar this season, but they will surprise. Teel is healthy, Kordell Young is back and looks great from what I've read, and RU has Britt, and arguably the best safety in the country in Greene. Go Knights!
Darius Dangleaitis 08-09-2008, 10:58 AM It surprises me how many people are still so high on west virginia. They lost Slaton and their new head coach was a questionable hire at best.
Have you seen Noel Devine play?
Plus, Stewart is loved by his players, and also had a very strong showing in the bowl game. They might regress a tad, but I don't think they'll lose more than 3 or 4 games.
DevsOwnYou 08-09-2008, 03:58 PM I guess, as a Miami fan, I'm just disgruntled by the fact that we aren't the best team in Florida anymore:cry::cry::cry:.
Watch out though, we have a LOAD of young talent coming in. In my opinion, we could win the ACC in '09.
Miami is the 4th best team in Florida:
Gators
USF
FSU
Miami
Clarkson Falls Down 08-09-2008, 06:31 PM I wonder how Glen Foley likes selling cars.
edit: I also wonder if there's anyone old enough to understand why I'm referencing Glen Foley. :)
Went to his football camp like 9 years ago. Got to meet him. I knew even as a young lad that he sucked.
Harrison Ford 08-09-2008, 06:40 PM I only know one Foley.
http://garr.ulo.us/foley/collage3.jpg
JLHockeyKnight 08-10-2008, 12:29 PM I can't wait. I'll be going to the Navy and (maybe) the Pitt game (both away). Curse living in the Southern Tier of NY now, I'm so far away from NJ.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-10-2008, 02:41 PM Miami is the 4th best team in Florida:
Gators
USF
FSU
Miami
FSU is questionable. We beat them last year, but there's no telling how we'll be this year.
I still think USF is overrated. I think they'd be mid-range in the ACC, like FSU and Miami are now.
JLHockeyKnight 08-10-2008, 02:56 PM FSU is questionable. We beat them last year, but there's no telling how we'll be this year.
I still think USF is overrated. I think they'd be mid-range in the ACC, like FSU and Miami are now.
I personally think they're underrated. They're a team that can really surprise you if you don't take them seriously. I think at the state that FSU is in, USF could beat them.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-10-2008, 03:12 PM I personally think they're underrated. They're a team that can really surprise you if you don't take them seriously. I think at the state that FSU is in, USF could beat them.
Yeah. I think they'd beat FSU and Miami.
Jiri Bicek 08-10-2008, 03:39 PM FSU is questionable. We beat them last year, but there's no telling how we'll be this year.
I still think USF is overrated. I think they'd be mid-range in the ACC, like FSU and Miami are now.
As an FSU fan myself, they might be the worst team in Florida this year.... Or they can surprise everyone.. I really have no idea what this team is going to do
They have plenty of returning starters and talent but the O-Line is a "?'
The defense should be strong with Nicholson at LB and jersey boy Myron Rolle in the secondary
Might be Bobby's last year if they don't improve and time for Jimbo to take the reigns.
Btw- I would have loved to see how stacked Rutgers could be if some of the state talent stayed (Moreno, Toal, Rolle, Jarrett, Cushing, etc)
Clarkson Falls Down 08-10-2008, 03:53 PM Btw- I would have loved to see how stacked Rutgers could be if some of the state talent stayed (Moreno, Toal, Rolle, Jarrett, Cushing, etc)
Rutgers' resurgence was a few years too late in that regard as they are now keeping some of the states best in-state. But back in 03-05 when most of the guys you mentioned played, Rutgers really hadn't stepped into the national spotlight yet.
You're right, it wouldn't been fascinating to see how good RU would have been if even only half of those guys stayed home.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-10-2008, 03:54 PM As an FSU fan myself, they might be the worst team in Florida this year.... Or they can surprise everyone.. I really have no idea what this team is going to do
They have plenty of returning starters and talent but the O-Line is a "?'
The defense should be strong with Nicholson at LB and jersey boy Myron Rolle in the secondary
Might be Bobby's last year if they don't improve and time for Jimbo to take the reigns.
Btw- I would have loved to see how stacked Rutgers could be if some of the state talent stayed (Moreno, Toal, Rolle, Jarrett, Cushing, etc)
Same with Miami. Marve could be awesome, or he could be another Kyle Wright (god forbid). Running backs are solid, we're very young but deep at receiver, and O-line is experienced. On defense, our D-line has a couple new starters but Moncur is back. We have some experience at linebacker, but also some young kids that will contribute. The secondary is on the bubble.
We have the talent, it's just a question of whether or not we can put it together. We'll find out in Gainesville:help:.
JLHockeyKnight 08-10-2008, 05:01 PM Rutgers' resurgence was a few years too late in that regard as they are now keeping some of the states best in-state. But back in 03-05 when most of the guys you mentioned played, Rutgers really hadn't stepped into the national spotlight yet.
You're right, it wouldn't been fascinating to see how good RU would have been if even only half of those guys stayed home.
That's one of the number one things Rutgers scouting has been pushing. It's been working better lately then in the early part of 2000, and it's showing. The fact that Schiano is molding this team so well is really attracting NJ high school players to Rutgers.
fortheloveof666 08-15-2008, 08:10 AM Looks like the team is definitely doing quite a bit of "team building" that can go a long way since they a little short on some talent.
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080814/SPORTS0302/808140368/-1/sportsfront
I like hearing that, maybe that can be those underdogs this year that prove everyone wrong.
Mose Schrute 08-15-2008, 01:24 PM By the end of the year, you will all know the name LeSean McCoy!
Shady in 2008!
DevsOwnYou 08-15-2008, 03:10 PM By the end of the year, you will all know the name LeSean McCoy!
Shady in 2008!
College football fans already know it. Shady is a great RB who will be old enough to enter the NFL draft after this season.
Too bad Pitt has a bad game day coach in Wanny.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-15-2008, 04:58 PM By the end of the year, you will all know the name LeSean McCoy!
Shady in 2008!
If you paid attention at all last year, you know him already. He's ridiculous. Moreno is the best back in college football though.
One name that I feel like only avid fans know is Graig Cooper at the U. This is the guy that kept LeSean McCoy on the bench in prep school. Watch out for him this year.
Mr.Krinkle 08-26-2008, 03:27 PM Well since we put up an NFL thread today, I figured it's time for the Rutgers Football thread.
No more Ray Rice, so this is going to be a tough year for the Knights. They still have to decide who the starter is going to be amongst four candidates. Luicci put his preview up on NJ.com yesterday, every day this week he's got another position up:
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/
First game, Monday afternoon, on ESPN against Fresno State, here's the full schedule:
Monday, September 1
Fresno State at Rutgers
ESPN 4:30 PM
Thursday, Sept. 11
North Carolina at Rutgers
ESPN 7:30 PM
Saturday, Sept. 20
Rutgers at Navy
CBS CSN 3:30 PM
Saturday, Sept. 27
Morgan State at Rutgers
Saturday, Oct. 4
Rutgers at West Virginia*
Saturday, Oct. 11
Rutgers at Cincinnati*
Saturday, Oct. 18
Connecticut at Rutgers*
Saturday, Oct. 25
Rutgers at Pittsburgh*
Saturday, Nov. 8
Syracuse at Rutgers*
Saturday, Nov. 15
Rutgers at South Florida*
Saturday, Nov. 22
Army at Rutgers
Thursday, Dec. 4
Louisville at Rutgers*
ESPN 7:30 PM
*Big East game
fortheloveof666 08-26-2008, 03:32 PM sucks that not too many games are televised. I hope MSG+ will pick them up instead of showing ****ing Hofstra and ****.
Mr.Krinkle 08-26-2008, 03:34 PM sucks that not too many games are televised. I hope MSG+ will pick them up instead of showing ****ing Hofstra and ****.
SNY is the official home this year of Rutgers Football, they announced it within the last week. In addition to all the extra crap, I do believe they're broadcasting the non nationally televised games.
http://scarletknights.com/football/news/release.asp?prID=6795
PISCATAWAY, N.J. – SNY,the exclusive television home of Rutgers Football, will kick-off its comprehensive Rutgers football line-up with an array of exclusive programs featuring the Scarlet Knights. SNY's Rutgers programming schedule will debut on Monday, August 25 at 11:30 a.m. with the Greg Schiano weekly press conference – which will be televised every Monday throughout the season. SNY will also televise Inside Rutgers Football with Greg Schiano, Rutgers Rush Hourand Tuesday Knight Football.
The Greg Schiano Weekly Press Conference – which begins Monday, August 25 – will air live each week on Monday at 11:30 a.m. and then will be replayed Monday nights at 12:30 a.m.
Inside Rutgers Football– a weekly feature-oriented program showcasing the Rutgers football team – will make its season-debut on SNY Friday, August 29 at 4:30 p.m. For the first time ever, Inside Rutgers Football, hosted by Bruce Beck, will be produced in HD. The show will premiere Fridays at 4:30 p.m. in the month of September, and will move to 6:30 p.m. for the remainder of the season starting in October. Replays of Inside Rutgers Football air late Friday nights and Saturday mornings throughout the season as well. Check SNY.tv or ScarletKnights.com for complete information.
Rutgers Rush Hour, a one-hour condensed version of the previous game, will debut on SNY on Sunday mornings at 6 a.m. and 9 a.m. throughout the season. For Rutgers day games, Rutgers Rush Hour will air at midnight on Saturday as well. For Rutgers games airing in September, please check SNY.tv air times.
Tuesday Knight Football – a full re-broadcast of the previous week's game – makes its debut this season on SNY each Tuesday night throughout the season. For complete listings, check SNY.tv or ScarletKnights.com.
DevsOwnYou 08-26-2008, 03:34 PM sucks that not too many games are televised. I hope MSG+ will pick them up instead of showing ****ing Hofstra and ****.
every game will be televised locally like last season.
fortheloveof666 08-26-2008, 03:37 PM SNY is the official home this year of Rutgers Football, they announced it within the last week. In addition to all the extra crap, I do believe they're broadcasting the non nationally televised games.
http://scarletknights.com/football/news/release.asp?prID=6795
PISCATAWAY, N.J. – SNY,the exclusive television home of Rutgers Football, will kick-off its comprehensive Rutgers football line-up with an array of exclusive programs featuring the Scarlet Knights. SNY's Rutgers programming schedule will debut on Monday, August 25 at 11:30 a.m. with the Greg Schiano weekly press conference – which will be televised every Monday throughout the season. SNY will also televise Inside Rutgers Football with Greg Schiano, Rutgers Rush Hourand Tuesday Knight Football.
The Greg Schiano Weekly Press Conference – which begins Monday, August 25 – will air live each week on Monday at 11:30 a.m. and then will be replayed Monday nights at 12:30 a.m.
Inside Rutgers Football– a weekly feature-oriented program showcasing the Rutgers football team – will make its season-debut on SNY Friday, August 29 at 4:30 p.m. For the first time ever, Inside Rutgers Football, hosted by Bruce Beck, will be produced in HD. The show will premiere Fridays at 4:30 p.m. in the month of September, and will move to 6:30 p.m. for the remainder of the season starting in October. Replays of Inside Rutgers Football air late Friday nights and Saturday mornings throughout the season as well. Check SNY.tv or ScarletKnights.com for complete information.
Rutgers Rush Hour, a one-hour condensed version of the previous game, will debut on SNY on Sunday mornings at 6 a.m. and 9 a.m. throughout the season. For Rutgers day games, Rutgers Rush Hour will air at midnight on Saturday as well. For Rutgers games airing in September, please check SNY.tv air times.
Tuesday Knight Football – a full re-broadcast of the previous week's game – makes its debut this season on SNY each Tuesday night throughout the season. For complete listings, check SNY.tv or ScarletKnights.com.
every game will be televised locally like last season.
That's a relief. But last season I wasn't able to watch every game, which was pretty beat. Good news though. :nod:
Mr.Krinkle 08-26-2008, 03:42 PM That's a relief. But last season I wasn't able to watch every game, which was pretty beat. Good news though. :nod:
I think their bum deal with MSG made them switch to SNY. SNY is a new network dedicated to making a splash in the market. MSG could care less about Rutgers, they just aired whatever was easiest for them to air. Rutgers having it's own home on the airwaves will be awesome. I can't tell you how many times last year I would miss the entire first quarter checking 15 possibilites for the game:
"ABC? Nope. ESPN? Nope. We know it's not NBC so CBS? Nope. Okay then, FSNY? Negative. MSG? Try again. MSG Plus? Nope. FSNY 2? Nada. Oh here it is, on the *** TV Guide Channel, this makes sense!"
SCOTTIESTEVENS 08-26-2008, 03:43 PM Fresno State at Rutgers
North Carolina at Rutgers
Rutgers at Navy
Morgan State at Rutgers
Rutgers at West Virginia*
Rutgers at Cincinnati*
Connecticut at Rutgers*
Rutgers at Pittsburgh*
Syracuse at Rutgers*
Rutgers at South Florida*
Army at Rutgers
Louisville at Rutgers*
There's 12 games. If Rutgers is average, they should win the following:
UNC, Navy, Morgan State, UConn, Syracuse, Army and UL.
Besides UConn and UL, all those games are cupcakes. UConn will be at the bottom of the conference below UL and above Syracuse.
That's 5 easy wins for RU, and 2 probables, 7-0. USF and WVU are likely losses. 7-2 and then Fresno, Pitt and Cincy are all potent teams but no one knows if they are legit. I'd say rutgers goes 7-5 most likely, 8-4 if they get lucky and 6-6 at worst.
7-5 (2-5)
However we all know college football is unpredictable and Pitt, Cincy and Fresno could be busts and UL and UConn show up for the season.. it's a mystery.
fortheloveof666 08-26-2008, 03:43 PM I think their bum deal with MSG made them switch to SNY. SNY is a new network dedicated to making a splash in the market. MSG could care less about Rutgers, they just aired whatever was easiest for them to air. Rutgers having it's own home on the airwaves will be awesome. I can't tell you how many times last year I would miss the entire first quarter checking 15 possibilites for the game:
"ABC? Nope. ESPN? Nope. We know it's not NBC so CBS? Nope. Okay then, FSNY? Negative. MSG? Try again. MSG Plus? Nope. FSNY 2? Nada. Oh here it is, on the *** TV Guide Channel, this makes sense!"
Yep me too. This is a welcomed change. plus I have SNY in HD. Let's hope they bring the gear to Gunswick.;)
Mr Bojanglez 08-26-2008, 04:01 PM Simpsons did it
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=542442
Mr.Krinkle 08-26-2008, 04:09 PM Simpsons did it
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=542442
Whoops, my bad, didn't realize there was one already. Guess the mods will have to merge or just close this one?
devilnjersey 08-26-2008, 05:46 PM I'll be at the opener vs Fresno State, used to have season tix but gave them up last year.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 08-28-2008, 12:08 PM So is this strictly for RU football or College football in general? Because I need a thread to talk about College football =P especially since the season starts tonight.
Clarkson Falls Down 08-28-2008, 12:18 PM We can talk college football here too, just so we don't clutter the board with multiple threads.
ILikeItVeryMuch 08-28-2008, 12:49 PM Lets Go Rutgers
Finally something new to watch tonight, especially since the Yankees **** the bed last night.
ILikeItVeryMuch 08-30-2008, 02:55 PM ECU is about to upset VT
fortheloveof666 08-30-2008, 02:59 PM for those interested, I asked to have the Monday game added on v-bookie. bet away.
devilzrule27 08-30-2008, 03:02 PM I can't wait for Monday! I'm really interested to see what our team has this year whit the new running game and a "hopefully improved in the big games" passing attack.
guyincognito 08-30-2008, 03:42 PM Seeya Pitt. Dave still can't coach.
fortheloveof666 08-30-2008, 03:44 PM WVU is on SNY if anyone wants to watch.
Clarkson Falls Down 08-30-2008, 03:51 PM WVU is on SNY if anyone wants to watch.
Gotta check out the old WVU coach take his offense to the Big House. :nod:
fortheloveof666 08-30-2008, 04:14 PM Gotta check out the old WVU coach take his offense to the Big House. :nod:
haha. that dude is such a *******. I hope Michigan loses to Utah
Clarkson Falls Down 08-30-2008, 04:20 PM haha. that dude is such a *******. I hope Michigan loses to Utah
Hey, **** you!
haha, it's all good.:laugh:
devilzrule27 08-30-2008, 04:41 PM Seeya Pitt. Dave still can't coach.
HAHA Thats what you get when your team is over hyped. I like Wanny but he has been bad at every level of head coaching. Hell of a recruiter but a terrible coach. So much for ESPN picking them to win the big east! Ha! The conference is going to be wide open this year.
fortheloveof666 08-30-2008, 07:00 PM Hey, **** you!
haha, it's all good.:laugh:
not lookin good right now. 25-23 Utaugh
Jonathan. 08-30-2008, 07:03 PM Seeya Pitt. Dave still can't coach.
Most overrated team in the NCAA. How Pittsburgh was possibly top 25 was beyond me.
Nice to see that team show it's true colors in the first freaking game -- a game people expected them to win huge in.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 08-30-2008, 07:05 PM Most overrated team in the NCAA. How Pittsburgh was possibly top 25 was beyond me.
Nice to see that team show it's true colors in the first freaking game -- a game people expected them to win huge in.
One of the ESPN announcers, I forget who predicted them to lose - I bought into that so I wasn't one of the Big East champ, BCS possible, bandwagoners.
It was also sad to see the attendance at the game... pretty sad for a "top 25 team"... Maybe I'm just used to 107,000+ in attendance for my favorite team, lol
fortheloveof666 08-30-2008, 07:11 PM hahaha Michigan ****in sucks. Good for Rodriguez.
Darius Dangleaitis 08-30-2008, 09:44 PM To all Michigan fans:
http://op-for.com/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg
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DevsOwnYou 09-01-2008, 11:49 AM I will be leaving for the RU game soon. I'm jacked for the game and for the great atmosphere down at the Stadium.
Rutgers football seems to be the only local team that can bring Devils, Flyers and Rangers fans together in unison. I recall during the past few seasons fans wearing Rutgers shirts and either Devs, Flyers or Rags hats. Mostly Devs, but all 3 nevertheless.
I will keep an eye out for any NHL stuff worn by fans today and post on it tonight/tomorrow.
Go RU!
4pm on ESPN for anyone interested.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-01-2008, 12:10 PM Stomp Fresno State
Banks Of The Raritan!
fortheloveof666 09-01-2008, 04:01 PM Stomp Fresno State
Banks Of The Raritan!
:yo:
fortheloveof666 09-01-2008, 04:12 PM wow are they in trouble. I could have kicked that ****ing field goal better and their running game doesn't look like it's going to be worth anything.
Jiri Bicek 09-01-2008, 04:12 PM lol what in the hell was that?
fortheloveof666 09-01-2008, 04:16 PM lol what in the hell was that?
I dunno but it makes me wonder if he ever actually kicked a ball before that. :shakehead
fortheloveof666 09-01-2008, 04:45 PM Considering some of these ranked teams were overrated, either RU's defense is really good, or the (in one poll) 25th team in the nations offense isn't all that great.
But needless to say, I am highly impressed by that defense. They play some good hard nosed ball.
BrodeurRULES 09-01-2008, 05:28 PM Is there a reason RU doesn't want to kick FG lol
guyincognito 09-01-2008, 06:15 PM If I'm gonna bury Dave... Schiano can't coach either, they got buried in halftime.
They should have spread the field and gone with the run action, but he's still trying to relive Ray Rice with the telegraphed interior runs.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-01-2008, 06:22 PM This isn't good.
Jonathan. 09-01-2008, 06:28 PM This isn't good.
Nope.
fortheloveof666 09-01-2008, 06:33 PM If I'm gonna bury Dave... Schiano can't coach either, they got buried in halftime.
They should have spread the field and gone with the run action, but he's still trying to relive Ray Rice with the telegraphed interior runs.
You simply can't run the ball excessively with a back that small, they're not every down backs, period. That's something he's unfortunately going to have to learn in this game. But I think Schiano is a very good coach and it's pretty insulting to even put him anywhere near how awful Dave (i don't feel like spelling his stupid last name) is.
But what Rutgers used as a tool to become so dominant was being a possession team and they're trying to continue that with this team and I don't think that's going to be possible. They need to try and be a more wide-open team and try to move the ball quickly. That's not the best strategy BUT I think their defense is competent enough to allow them to win games.
One thing is for sure though, the questions about the O-line have been answered and they're going to really have to work on making those guys better. They're not THAT bad, but they've been terrible on the run today and not much better on the pass.
My opinion is they need to use the fullback more as a HB and motion the TE's to the FB position to block. Having a speed guy is good but he might be better as a screen option than a straight up runner. Teel is a solid QB and I think if he could tighten up his throwing just a tad and RU uses the run as a tool to set up the pass that it could be effective.
The game itself: VERY questionable block in the back call. The side of someone is fair game and that's where both appeared to be to me. Too bad.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-01-2008, 07:11 PM Yeah that block in the back call was BS.
guyincognito 09-01-2008, 07:14 PM You simply can't run the ball excessively with a back that small, they're not every down backs, period. That's something he's unfortunately going to have to learn in this game. But I think Schiano is a very good coach and it's pretty insulting to even put him anywhere near how awful Dave (i don't feel like spelling his stupid last name) is.
But what Rutgers used as a tool to become so dominant was being a possession team and they're trying to continue that with this team and I don't think that's going to be possible. They need to try and be a more wide-open team and try to move the ball quickly. That's not the best strategy BUT I think their defense is competent enough to allow them to win games.
One thing is for sure though, the questions about the O-line have been answered and they're going to really have to work on making those guys better. They're not THAT bad, but they've been terrible on the run today and not much better on the pass.
My opinion is they need to use the fullback more as a HB and motion the TE's to the FB position to block. Having a speed guy is good but he might be better as a screen option than a straight up runner. Teel is a solid QB and I think if he could tighten up his throwing just a tad and RU uses the run as a tool to set up the pass that it could be effective.
The game itself: VERY questionable block in the back call. The side of someone is fair game and that's where both appeared to be to me. Too bad.
I just think he's a recruiter/motivator and if he was an NFL coach, he might not last the season.
He and his staff just don't make good decisions. You could see the inside run was going nowhere because the interior line couldn't hold up, and they go back to it. Their biggest strength offensively is speed to the outside and that's where their line is the strongest, but they're trying to shove last year's program down everyone's throats.
The game itself was really leaving around 17-20 points on the board in the first half. They were the better team, but then they lost the game at halftime and lost it badly.
I'll also agree to disagree on Teel. I think he's a million $ arm and a ten cent brain.
That flea-flicker was the epitome of Teel.
JLHockeyKnight 09-01-2008, 07:15 PM This game is just depressing.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-01-2008, 07:17 PM Fresno seems to be a very solid team. Good D and potent O, their RB looks pretty good for a Soph. However, I don't think this win (if they win) is really that much of a test compared to UCLA and Wisconsin. Rutgers will be a sub .500 team, their D is above average and without the running game they had last year, I don't think their passing game will be nearly as good.
But who knows.. that's just my opinion. If Fresno plays close against Wisc, we'll know if they are legit. If I was a RU fan, I wouldn't be disappointed. I guess I'm just looking at this from an outside view, but I wasn't expecting much out of this year.
Sorry guys! Dont flame me! :sarcasm:
fortheloveof666 09-01-2008, 07:21 PM I just think he's a recruiter/motivator and if he was an NFL coach, he might not last the season.
He and his staff just don't make good decisions. You could see the inside run was going nowhere because the interior line couldn't hold up, and they go back to it. Their biggest strength offensively is speed to the outside and that's where their line is the strongest, but they're trying to shove last year's program down everyone's throats.
The game itself was really leaving around 17-20 points on the board in the first half. They were the better team, but then they lost the game at halftime and lost it badly.
I'll also agree to disagree on Teel. I think he's a million $ arm and a ten cent brain.
That flea-flicker was the epitome of Teel.
They left a ton of points on the field in that first half thanks to stupid little mental errors, most of which should have never happened.
Now in the 2nd half their defense was so spent from being on the field so much they're getting romped.
I get what you're saying about Teel and I definitely agree to an extent. He'll likely never be an NFL QB because he doesn't make very good decisions but he does have an arm to be a solid college QB.
I really wish Rutgers would look at a team like WVU and their small back and try and take at least one page from them. Pat White easily has a worse arm than Teel and he threw 5 TD's this weekend and in my opinion Underwood and Britt are way better than WVU's receivers.
There is little doubt Schiano is a good recruiter (for RU standards), he's definitely brought on some kids to RU that would have likely ended up elsewhere. But it seems to me as a head coach he only drives the philosophy and seemingly has more of a defensive mindset.
One thing is for sure, someone needs to be held accountable for some of that horrid play calling. They need a change of philosophy in a week or they're going to be a 5 win team at best.
Clarkson Falls Down 09-01-2008, 09:07 PM What an abortion. At least I got drunk.
Devils Pride 26 09-01-2008, 09:08 PM Teel sucks. Te sucks. Start Lovelace! O-line was pretty weak. Defense was great until the 4th quarter. Just a bad game.
JLHockeyKnight 09-01-2008, 09:10 PM Teel sucks. Te sucks. Start Lovelace! O-line was pretty weak. Defense was great until the 4th quarter. Just a bad game.
Teel wasn't the problem. The WR's couldn't get the ball if they wore gloves made of super-glue.
Clarkson Falls Down 09-01-2008, 09:13 PM Teel sucks. Te sucks. Start Lovelace! O-line was pretty weak. Defense was great until the 4th quarter. Just a bad game.
Jabu would take us to 3 wins. Did you see him play extended minutes last year against Pitt? He was awful.
Devils Pride 26 09-01-2008, 09:23 PM Teel wasn't the problem. The WR's couldn't get the ball if they wore gloves made of super-glue.
Teel's decision making skills are that of a Pop Warner QB.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-01-2008, 09:32 PM Underwood dropping that 3rd down pass = me vomiting.
Jiri Bicek 09-01-2008, 09:34 PM Teel's decision making skills are that of a Pop Warner QB.
Teel is a poor mans Chris Rix
guyincognito 09-01-2008, 09:37 PM Jabu would take us to 3 wins. Did you see him play extended minutes last year against Pitt? He was awful.
Yeah, he blows, and on a team that was having a hard time lining up running the ball, a borderline option QB wouldn't help.
Lovelace will never play, DC Jefferson or the kid they brought in this year (if he doesn't change his mind) will get the job next season.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-01-2008, 09:45 PM Yeah, he blows, and on a team that was having a hard time lining up running the ball, a borderline option QB wouldn't help.
Lovelace will never play, DC Jefferson or the kid they brought in this year (if he doesn't change his mind) will get the job next season.
Tom Savage. He's legit. I'm a Miami fan and I try to keep up with recruiting, and the guys on the Miami board over on scout.com were bummed when he chose Rutgers over us.
DC Jefferson is no slouch either. I'm feelin pretty good about the depth at QB after this year.
Clarkson Falls Down 09-02-2008, 12:14 AM Yeah, he blows, and on a team that was having a hard time lining up running the ball, a borderline option QB wouldn't help.
Lovelace will never play, DC Jefferson or the kid they brought in this year (if he doesn't change his mind) will get the job next season.
He may not even be the back up this season. Paul-Etienne was challenging him hard for that spot.
Colin Whites Eye 09-02-2008, 01:01 AM teel lol
Harrison Ford 09-02-2008, 01:10 AM Teel gets a nice big :facepalm: for this game.
ILikeItVeryMuch 09-04-2008, 10:56 AM Rutgers had that game on a platter in the first half, they did everything but put points on the board. They gotta come out and get there **** together against NC. Anything less than a bowl is unacceptable this season.
Thank god college football is one of the few sports, if not the only one where its okay to follow a second team, because UK rules, ever since that LSU game last year they gained a follower. The Wildcats are my non-Big East team for sure.
I envy people who went to real colleges with legit football programs, I visited my friend down at WVU a couple years ago and the tailgate was incredible, mind you I hate WVU, but still, unreal.
fortheloveof666 09-04-2008, 11:03 AM Rutgers had that game on a platter in the first half, they did everything but put points on the board. They gotta come out and get there **** together against NC. Anything less than a bowl is unacceptable this season.
Thank god college football is one of the few sports, if not the only one where its okay to follow a second team, because UK rules, ever since that LSU game last year they gained a follower. The Wildcats are my non-Big East team for sure.
I envy people who went to real colleges with legit football programs, I visited my friend down at WVU a couple years ago and the tailgate was incredible, mind you I hate WVU, but still, unreal.
Tell me that wasn't the most incredible tailgating experience in your life. Did you go down into "The Pit" where the students pull up their cars?
Seriously there is a reason that school is the #1 party school and I sure did experience it. :laugh:
ILikeItVeryMuch 09-04-2008, 11:04 AM Tell me that wasn't the most incredible tailgating experience in your life. Did you go down into "The Pit" where the students pull up their cars?
Seriously there is a reason that school is the #1 party school and I sure did experience it. :laugh:
The fact that I didnt get alcohol poisioning still amazes me.
fortheloveof666 09-04-2008, 11:06 AM The fact that I didnt get alcohol poisioning still amazes me.
hahaha seriously dude. The game we went to was at like 12 I think and we fell asleep at 5am and woke up at 7am to the frat across from the stadium doing keg stands on the front lawn, by 7:15 I paid my 5 bucks and was drinking right beside them.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-05-2008, 09:58 PM I was flipping through the channels and I saw the Ball St. vs Navy game. I had never heard of this college before, but on one of those college football live shows, a fan called in saying they were going to the BCS.. he was obviously either drunk or highly delusional or both.
Any who, they beat navy by 12 or 13 points tonight.. not impressive at all for a "BCS team". Also, their couple thousand large student section had the nerve to say "Nananan good-bye" sort of thing to Navy? A team comprised of men who will "defend your freedom". What also made me laugh is their students started to storm the field.. I mean I guess beating a 100th~ ranked team is worthy of rushing the field.
I guess I'm just being an old man. :laugh: but these fans need to get over themselves.
/end rant.
Edit: oh I just saw their coaches record over the last 6 years, it was like 36 and 56. Which makes sense now!
fortheloveof666 09-05-2008, 10:05 PM I was flipping through the channels and I saw the Ball St. vs Navy game. I had never heard of this college before, but on one of those college football live shows, a fan called in saying they were going to the BCS.. he was obviously either drunk or highly delusional or both.
Any who, they beat navy by 12 or 13 points tonight.. not impressive at all for a "BCS team". Also, their couple thousand large student section had the nerve to say "Nananan good-bye" sort of thing to Navy? A team comprised of men who will "defend your freedom". What also made me laugh is their students started to storm the field.. I mean I guess beating a 100th~ ranked team is worthy of rushing the field.
I guess I'm just being an old man. :laugh: but these fans need to get over themselves.
/end rant.
Edit: oh I just saw their coaches record over the last 6 years, it was like 36 and 56. Which makes sense now!
RU kicked the **** out of them in that bowl game. **** that school.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-06-2008, 12:23 AM RU kicked the **** out of them in that bowl game. **** that school.
Yeah, they have a very talented QB, but their offense is still average at best.. considering the competition they play, and to only put up 30~ points at best when their defense gets cut through like warm butter... idk just my opinion!
DevsOwnYou 09-06-2008, 01:59 PM What's a Rutgers? is back after the debacle last week.
I hope they kick the snot out of UNC on Thursday night.
I saw about 5 people wearing Devils caps at the game vs Fresno.
No NYR nor Flyers stuff. A good share of Giants, Eagles and Jets stuff too and some Mets sprinkled in. It was a sea of red in the stadium, a cool sight.
Clarkson Falls Down 09-09-2008, 12:27 AM Was on line today at the Dunkin Donuts at the Rutgers Student Section behind Anthony Davis and George Johnson.
Jebus they are massive.
Davis ordered a Egg and Sausage Sandwich, a glazed donut, and a jelly donut, in case you are interested. :D
devilnjersey 09-09-2008, 12:32 AM Rutgers had that game on a platter in the first half, they did everything but put points on the board. They gotta come out and get there **** together against NC. Anything less than a bowl is unacceptable this season.
Thank god college football is one of the few sports, if not the only one where its okay to follow a second team, because UK rules, ever since that LSU game last year they gained a follower. The Wildcats are my non-Big East team for sure.
I envy people who went to real colleges with legit football programs, I visited my friend down at WVU a couple years ago and the tailgate was incredible, mind you I hate WVU, but still, unreal.
I was at the RU- Fresno State game, usually make 2 games each year, had season tix but had to give them up a year ago. Also a HUGE UK fan, both basketball and football, my brotherinlaw is an alumni, he was born and raised in Kentucky actually. The 'Cats travel real well, i've been to quite a few basketball games and was impressed by the amount of fans that made the trip for the game.
guyincognito 09-11-2008, 09:19 PM Mike Teel. Moron. Someone should find his gamer tag online and teach him how to read a defense.
Mr.Krinkle 09-11-2008, 09:23 PM Mike Teel. Moron. Someone should find his gamer tag online and teach him how to read a defense.
He is really tough to watch now, I was never big on him, but they could cover that up well by just handing off to Rice when the going to really rough. Now they can't do that and all we have is way off target passes, dropped balls, and picks.
On another note...
Did you hear the stat they dropped at the end of the half though? "First time UNC has scored in New Jersey in over a hundred years."
Granted they've only played RU 4 times in that timeframe, not sure how many times they played Princeton, but those 4 RU games were over the course of 3 different centuries (also pretty cool), but still, way to ruin a good thing you slackers!
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-11-2008, 10:04 PM Rofl 31-6!
Darius Dangleaitis 09-11-2008, 10:04 PM Wow Rutgers...just wow.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-11-2008, 10:09 PM Has UNC improved or is Rutgers just awful this season..? Or Both?
Colin Whites Eye 09-11-2008, 10:12 PM UNC isnt THAT good, Rutgers is just awful
NJDevs26 09-11-2008, 11:08 PM Schiano's going to leave the way Herm Edwards did the Jets, jump ship the year before he gets fired. Which might not be a bad thing at this point. Schiano can probably recruit well, but man his game management and tactics are subpar. And Teel, yeech :shakehead
guyincognito 09-11-2008, 11:26 PM That game felt like going back 10 years in time.
They sucked at pretty much everything. Butch Davis made Schiano look like Henry Winkler playing the ***** coach in The Waterboy.
Who knows how good UNC is, they played McNeese State and only beat them by 8 at home, McNeese State is a very good 1-AA team, but still.... we'll see when they play VA Tech, I think they're on the rise but they're not that good right now.
Teel is ****ing garbage. A product of the ******** way high school football works in NJ, he plays for a team that recruits out from under everyone else and pummels everyone into the ground other than the 2 or 3 other schools capable of this. At least Chris Simms played outside this BS. His brother Matt will be the next Teel.
There's no way to cover up Teel's stink right now, there's no running game, so he can't even do the one thing he can do well, which is going over the top on PA. But someone who throws the ****ing javelin could do that.
The arrogance has to ****ing go, it tripped them up last season, but they are not as good as they were last season and they will get murdered if this keeps up. You are Rutgers, you have had a couple of nice seasons, you are not ****ing USC, don't act like it and expect to show up and win. That goes for the coaches too, I hope Schiano doesn't think he's getting himself a cushy job at Happy Valley. Should have beaten Coach Rod to the punch, but you'd probably get exposed there as a recruiter and nothing else.
Clarkson Falls Down 09-11-2008, 11:39 PM What a waste of my time. If this group didn't wanna show up they could've told me and I wouldn't have gone. Mike Teel might be the dumbest quarterback I've ever seen. Loves to hang his receivers out to dry.
And their's a lack of coaching somewhere here. Guys shouldn't be this wide open in the secondary. That's on Schiano's ass - it's becoming apparent that he's a good recruiter, poor game day coach.
It's also time for Greg to rethink this defensive philosophy. I'm tired of linebacker sized Defensive tackles and preaching firing the gaps and speed rushing. It doesn't work, especially when you don't blitz.
Get some fat **** into this program. He'll make the line better, he'll make the LBs better, he'll make everything better. Enough, I was the size of the DT my senior year of high school.
devilzrule27 09-12-2008, 12:18 AM What a waste of my time. If this group didn't wanna show up they could've told me and I wouldn't have gone. Mike Teel might be the dumbest quarterback I've ever seen. Loves to hang his receivers out to dry.
And their's a lack of coaching somewhere here. Guys shouldn't be this wide open in the secondary. That's on Schiano's ass - it's becoming apparent that he's a good recruiter, poor game day coach.
It's also time for Greg to rethink this defensive philosophy. I'm tired of linebacker sized Defensive tackles and preaching firing the gaps and speed rushing. It doesn't work, especially when you don't blitz.
Get some fat **** into this program. He'll make the line better, he'll make the LBs better, he'll make everything better. Enough, I was the size of the DT my senior year of high school.
I think he needs to take the defence back over. Screw the D-coord. The defense isn't nearly as agressive as they should be. And Teel!:banghead::banghead::banghead: He has good mechanics but lord he cant read the field and he never makes the good throw! EVER! Ryan Hart may not have had the greatest stuff but he was a muc hbetter QB because he made better throws. Period.
devilzrule27 09-12-2008, 12:24 AM oh and i agree get some ****in beef at d tackle
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-19-2008, 08:37 PM WVU lost to Colorado. It is official, the Big East is very, very, very, very terrible this year.
USF is the lone bright spot.
SEC - > Big 12 -> Big Ten / Pac 10 -> ACC - > Big East over the Mountain West, but only by a hair! -> WAC
If Connecticut loses to Baylor.. I'm going to rofl until the cows come home. They shouldn't even be a BCS conference this year. Sure there's a lot of games to play.. but their out of conference part of the year has went horrendous.
Clarkson Falls Down 09-19-2008, 09:24 PM All these ESPN games are killing the Big East. Their two marquee teams in terms of being able to get ratings, WVU and RU, have failed miserably on National TV. USF isn't going to garner any national interest.
And what is the this college football equivalent to the ACC-Big Ten showdown in college baskeball? This is 4 games in the past week featuring a Big 12-Big East matchup on ESPN.
Mr.Krinkle 09-20-2008, 06:44 PM Goddamnit Teel, you suck major donkey balls.
guyincognito 09-20-2008, 06:47 PM Alright, that was the worst loss of the 3 so far. There's no ****ing excuse for giving up 250 on the ground to Navy when you play them every season and it's the same damn personnel.
And Teel, just ****ing go home. Leave. Maybe you can go back to Bosco and beat up on some more outclassed NJ teams with a recruited team. Oh wait, they go out of Jersey now and you'd probably suck against the out of state schools too.
Let Jefferson play, don't redshirt him, it doesn't even matter if he's ready or not, give him experience and bite the bullet. This team isn't wining more than 3 or 4 games anyway.
The Mad Crapper 09-20-2008, 07:09 PM Horrible, absolutely horrible!!!
After a loss like this one, methinks that Schiano may not finish the season if they dare lose to Morgan State next week.
Big East is now known as the Big Easy!
guyincognito 09-20-2008, 07:12 PM Horrible, absolutely horrible!!!
After a loss like this one, methinks that Schiano may not finish the season if they dare lose to Morgan State next week.
Big East is now known as the Big Easy!
He's not getting fired and they won't lose to Morgan State. All they have to do is run 50 times and win.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-20-2008, 07:13 PM Teel you are a worthless, steaming pile of cow dung.
The Mad Crapper 09-20-2008, 07:55 PM He's not getting fired and they won't lose to Morgan State. All they have to do is run 50 times and win.
This team looks hapless & he's the coach. The past is the past, despite his success for the program.
God forbid they lose to Morgan State, he will be fired. And if he isn't, someone better be. Say like his offensive coordinator.
DevilFisch 09-20-2008, 08:04 PM I can't blame Schiano for Mike Teel playing like garbage. Only Mike Teel can be blamed for that. I'm sure all the coaches keep trying to build his confidence, point out where he went wrong, show him film/pictures, etc. But only Teel can put it all together. Right now, he's regressed in his development and he's making Sean Glennon and Jimmy Clausen look like the second coming of Carson Palmer and Ken Dorsey.
Our QB is **** and our defense cannot focus. I don't want to hit the panic button and fire the guy who made Rutgers worth a damn again. However, he's got to at least consider a D-coordinator so Schiano isn't stretched thin there and do something to get this team woken up. Maybe suspend Teel for slapping Glen Lee at the end or starting Chris-Paul (no, I don't want Jabu Lovelace throwing the ball) I thought they figured it out in the first half; but apparently upon return from church, I learned that they thrown it all away. This sucks.
On the bright side, the team's got two decent running backs in Brooks and Martinek and considering how West Virginia is playing, Rutgers has a shot at them on the road. Assuming the players actually play like they can. :cry:
Darius Dangleaitis 09-20-2008, 08:14 PM After Teel threw the pick, did anyone see another Rutgers player say something to Teel and it looked like Teel took a swing at him? That was interesting to say the least.
The Mad Crapper 09-20-2008, 08:48 PM I can't blame Schiano for Mike Teel playing like garbage. Only Mike Teel can be blamed for that. I'm sure all the coaches keep trying to build his confidence, point out where he went wrong, show him film/pictures, etc. But only Teel can put it all together. Right now, he's regressed in his development and he's making Sean Glennon and Jimmy Clausen look like the second coming of Carson Palmer and Ken Dorsey.
Our QB is **** and our defense cannot focus. I don't want to hit the panic button and fire the guy who made Rutgers worth a damn again. However, he's got to at least consider a D-coordinator so Schiano isn't stretched thin there and do something to get this team woken up. Maybe suspend Teel for slapping Glen Lee at the end or starting Chris-Paul (no, I don't want Jabu Lovelace throwing the ball) I thought they figured it out in the first half; but apparently upon return from church, I learned that they thrown it all away. This sucks.
On the bright side, the team's got two decent running backs in Brooks and Martinek and considering how West Virginia is playing, Rutgers has a shot at them on the road. Assuming the players actually play like they can. :cry:
I hear ya'...but with all of the $$$ that got tossed into the football program over the past couple of years, to come out & get blown out in their first 2 games, followed by losing to a sub-par team like Navy, something has to give soon & drastically. I mean like, send a message that we are not to go backwards & become the laughing stock of the Big East again. They're EXPECTED to be in a bowl this year. Not likely now.
If I was Robert E. Mulcahy right now, John McNulty - FIRED! In addition, I'd tell Schiano that if they fail to beat Morgan State by 51 points (the total they lost in their 3 games this year) he'll be packing his bags too. Such an embarrassment this season so far.
Rutgers University wanted to go big time in football & are now looking like fools. Therefore, make those responsible in failing you, look like fools on the unemployment line!
Darius Dangleaitis 09-20-2008, 09:16 PM Did anyone else see that Moreno touchdown leap? Holy ****.
guyincognito 09-20-2008, 09:19 PM I hear ya'...but with all of the $$$ that got tossed into the football program over the past couple of years, to come out & get blown out in their first 2 games, followed by losing to a sub-par team like Navy, something has to give soon & drastically. I mean like, send a message that we are not to go backwards & become the laughing stock of the Big East again. They're EXPECTED to be in a bowl this year. Not likely now.
If I was Robert E. Mulcahy right now, John McNulty - FIRED! In addition, I'd tell Schiano that if they fail to beat Morgan State by 51 points (the total they lost in their 3 games this year) he'll be packing his bags too. Such an embarrassment this season so far.
Rutgers University wanted to go big time in football & are now looking like fools. Therefore, make those responsible in failing you, look like fools on the unemployment line!
Expectations were wrong. They should be 2-1 now, but as seeing UNC is better than expected, it wouldn't have been a shock to be 1-2. This game sucked because it's an opponent they play every year and know. Navy is Navy, they do the same things every freaking game they play ever, and the players on offense are pretty much the same players they played last year.
This was setting up to be a down year but everyone was drawn in. They were a disappointment last year and lost some of their best players. This was supposed to be a bridge where they fight out to get a bowl birth but not contend for very much.
Firing Schiano at this point is stupid, other than for hyperbole. Who is going to coach the team and what about the good recruiting class that is coming in? What needs to happen is that Schiano's coaching footprint needs to be reduced and they need better assistants.
DevilFisch 09-20-2008, 09:33 PM Firing Schiano at this point is stupid, other than for hyperbole. Who is going to coach the team and what about the good recruiting class that is coming in? What needs to happen is that Schiano's coaching footprint needs to be reduced and they need better assistants.
Exactly. Firing Schiano will do nothing but guarantee Rutgers return to being perennial doormats. Recruits in NJ and abroad are still giving verbals to the program in spite of these three losses. Throwing Schiano away for three ****** losses may feel good now, but it's an incredibly dumb decision for the short term (who would coach this team now??) on long term future of the school program.
I want the team to make a bowl, too. They still, technically, can. But I don't think it's paradise or ruins; it's going to take at least 3 years of full-on losing seasons to truly kill what happened in the last 3 years. They do need better assistants, especially on offense. Bizarrely enough, John McNulty's emphasis on the run worked well - in the first half at least - but his conservative hasn't gotten it done. Maybe on defense too, a different look could make them more focused again - maybe Schiano is over-stretched?
Also: You know who else needs to be sent a message? Ti'quan Underwood. His fumble at the end of the first half was a true game-changer - and a shock considering that Teel threw a good pass and he couldn't haul it in. There's exactly one solid receiver at Rutgers right now, and it ain't him despite the production he had last season.
Lastly: It takes TIME to build big-time programs. Rutgers truly should strive to be one if only to have the disjointed campuses of Rutgers-NB unite together for football along with all the other Rutgers alums and future Rutgers students in this area. It's not like Contra where one shot (three ****** losses in a row is like a shot, symbolically) kills it all. Let the haters and critics have their day in the sun. Rutgers rose in 2005 and 2006 in SPITE of the criticism, they can do it again. Even if it has to happen next year.
NJDevs26 09-20-2008, 10:24 PM They're probably going to finish 3-9 this season - how can they possibly beat USF, Louisville, Cincy, UConn or WVA? They have to beat Morgan State and Army, maybe one conference win (Pitt or Syracuse, perhaps both).
Schiano should get one more year to find a real QB and without running the whole show on defense, but the fact that Rutgers regressed this much in one year without Ray Rice and the offensive line is alarming.
guyincognito 09-20-2008, 11:05 PM They're probably going to finish 3-9 this season - how can they possibly beat USF, Louisville, Cincy, UConn or WVA? They have to beat Morgan State and Army, maybe one conference win (Pitt or Syracuse, perhaps both).
Schiano should get one more year to find a real QB and without running the whole show on defense, but the fact that Rutgers regressed this much in one year without Ray Rice and the offensive line is alarming.
To be fair, I've seen all of the Big East teams this season. They all suck with the exception of USF, who look down a bit themselves too. (17-9 against Florida Atlantic isn't setting the world on fire.) UConn is 4-0 but they're the most mediocre 4-0 I've ever seen, they deserved to lose to Temple and beating Baylor by 3 at home isn't impressive at all. (Wake bent them over on the road) The Conference better pray USF doesn't have a bad game against them, because if they play in a major bowl, it'll make the Pitt/Utah game look pleasant.
Rutgers should be a 3-4 win team at this point, but the conference is so bad that nothing would surprise me other than Syracuse winning a conference game.
DEVILS130 09-20-2008, 11:53 PM this really sucks...at least i still have the jets and devils!
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-21-2008, 11:32 AM Looks like I was correct about ECU. I posted it a week or two ago:
ECU is way overrated. They beat two overrated teams and can barely beat Tulane.
A few people were playing the "they crushed WVU" card. WVU is simply not good this year. They can't even beat a middle to cellar Big 12 team in Colorado.. VT is clearly overrated but they are still a semi-decent team. Around 25-35 in the nation. I really like the way UNC is playing though, it's nice to see a perennially bad team do pretty well so far. Too bad they didn't beat VT. The ACC is just really terrible this year. The FSU vs Wake Forest was just a sloppy game. It looked like a high school game, minus the ability to kick FGs.
Next weekend has few close games on paper, but here's a few:
Top 25 Primetime matchups:
Penn St. vs Illinois (8:00 pm EDT - ESPN or ABC)- Can PSU show up in the big time game? Expect a stadium whiteout and an amazing atmosphere. If PSU shows up, also expect a high scoring game.
Alabama vs Georgia (7:45 pm EDT - ESPN or CBS)- A classic SEC battle, is 'Bama for real?
VT vs Nebraska - Nebraska is (3-0) and on the rise, but this is their first true test of the season.
Purdue vs Notre Dame - Both teams looked sketchy last week, but if ND cashes in on Offense, they win over MSU.
Upset Specials (Scottiestevens style):
Minnesota > OSU - OSU has been sketchy so far, and if Wells is anything less than 100% (probable) OSU is in trouble.
NC St. > South Florida - Hell, USF could barely get past Florida Atlantic (Or international, can't remember which one). It should be a close one if NC St. follows up to their win over ECU.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-21-2008, 01:38 PM Miami-UNC is going to be a good one next week. That might tell you who the early favorite to win the ACC is.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/photo?photoId=2042253&teamId=2390
Clarkson Falls Down 09-21-2008, 02:36 PM Miami-UNC is going to be a good one next week. That might tell you who the early favorite to win the ACC is.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/photo?photoId=2042253&teamId=2390
Possibly, but I really think that Wake is the proverbial favorite in the ACC right now. And you can't forget about Clemson either.
But Miami and UNC will be in contention I think.
Darius Dangleaitis 09-21-2008, 02:47 PM Possibly, but I really think that Wake is the proverbial favorite in the ACC right now. And you can't forget about Clemson either.
But Miami and UNC will be in contention I think.
Yeah. I should've said it's a huge game in the ACC Coastal Division. It's wide open there right now between Miami, UNC, G-Tech, and V-Tech.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-21-2008, 03:35 PM Yeah. I should've said it's a huge game in the ACC Coastal Division. It's wide open there right now between Miami, UNC, G-Tech, and V-Tech.
Wake has to be in there too.. The conference is very even from top to bottom, but it doesn't have one dominant team - unless Clemson proves Bama was a fluke or maybe it was a fluke plus Bama is still a pretty damn good team so far..
DevsOwnYou 09-21-2008, 05:14 PM Teel is a bad college QB, he lived off of Ray Rice the last few seasons.
He is a statue that locks in on a receiver and throws too many picks.
Rutgers needs to make a change at QB starting this week or they will go 2-9 this season.
HankTheTank 09-21-2008, 05:32 PM So how much money did Schiano cost himself by not jumping ship in 2006 like every college coach who has a huge year at a non traditional program?
Keep choppin'
Darius Dangleaitis 09-21-2008, 05:46 PM Wake has to be in there too.. The conference is very even from top to bottom, but it doesn't have one dominant team - unless Clemson proves Bama was a fluke or maybe it was a fluke plus Bama is still a pretty damn good team so far..
The four teams I mentioned are going to be battling it out simply for the Coastal Division. If you want to talk about the entire ACC, then you obviously have to add Clemson, FSU, and Wake into the mix.
Clarkson Falls Down 09-21-2008, 06:15 PM Yeah. I should've said it's a huge game in the ACC Coastal Division. It's wide open there right now between Miami, UNC, G-Tech, and V-Tech.
Oh, yeah that's a definite.
Is it just me, or is it really hard for the casual ACC follower to remember who's in what division? I mean the SEC is easy, East and West, as is the Big 12, with North and South.
But those ACC divisions are confusing.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-21-2008, 06:18 PM Didn't even notice you said Coastal division.. whoops!
Darius Dangleaitis 09-21-2008, 07:50 PM Oh, yeah that's a definite.
Is it just me, or is it really hard for the casual ACC follower to remember who's in what division? I mean the SEC is easy, East and West, as is the Big 12, with North and South.
But those ACC divisions are confusing.
Yeah it's a tad confusing. I just know that Miami is in the Coastal and FSU is in the Atlantic. I looked at the divisions today to post in here, but if I hadn't I probably couldn't have told you who's in which.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-27-2008, 06:52 PM Rutgers with a high quality win. Teel excels once again! BCS bound..
On a more serious note, the ACC officially sucks. Wisky is overrated, ECU is definitely overrated (like I said!). Florida got upset!
The sleeper football weeks always turn out ok
Colin Whites Eye 09-27-2008, 06:56 PM ....ECU isnt in the ACC.
...Florida isnt in the ACC
SCOTTIESTEVENS 09-27-2008, 07:41 PM ...Obviously.
I was just stating random comments about results today. I said the ACC officially sucks as one statement, and then other separate statements on ECU and Florida.
The ACC is a BCS conference and it will have no Top 25 teams next week.. and The Big East will have 1 or 2. USF and maybe UConn.
Colin Whites Eye 09-27-2008, 08:22 PM haha oh alright. all those in 1 line just confused me
jkrdevil 09-27-2008, 08:51 PM ...Obviously.
I was just stating random comments about results today. I said the ACC officially sucks as one statement, and then other separate statements on ECU and Florida.
The ACC is a BCS conference and it will have no Top 25 teams next week.. and The Big East will have 1 or 2. USF and maybe UConn.
If Va Tech wins tonight at Nebraska they will be ranked. Maryland might sneak into the rankings with wins over Cal and Clemson even though they lost to MTSU a couplof weeks ago.
theking72 10-25-2008, 06:06 PM I know most people have given up on RU, but believe it or not they are leading 41-31 in the 3rd. Looks like they finally figured out how to get the offense going.
Ronnie Bass 11-15-2008, 03:53 PM RU just pounded USF on the road 49-16 and after a 1-5 start they are now 5-5, no matter what happens the rest of the season it looks like they should at least finish 6-6. Nice rebound RU.
guyincognito 11-15-2008, 03:58 PM RU just pounded USF on the road 49-16 and after a 1-5 start they are now 5-5, no matter what happens the rest of the season it looks like they should at least finish 6-6. Nice rebound RU.
They'll win out.
Sucks because the horrible play at the beginning of the Big East season (in two games where they had chances to win), killed them for the BCS. Not that I think a 3 loss Big East team should really be in the BCS, but anyway...
Ronnie Bass 11-15-2008, 04:05 PM They'll win out.
You know what, I forgot they already played WVU - and lost - and thought they were still on the schedule, now that I see they are playing Army and Louisville I agree with you.
If that happens they should get a bowl game and nice recovery by Schiano and Co.
devilzrule27 11-15-2008, 04:15 PM RU just pounded USF on the road 49-16 and after a 1-5 start they are now 5-5, no matter what happens the rest of the season it looks like they should at least finish 6-6. Nice rebound RU.
Oh what could have been. Watching the offense now what in the **** was going during the beginning of the season. In a down Big East Rutger should have been able to contend but instead we are left with thoughts of what could have been a major season for the program.
Clarkson Falls Down 11-15-2008, 04:23 PM Oh what could have been. Watching the offense now what in the **** was going during the beginning of the season. In a down Big East Rutger should have been able to contend but instead we are left with thoughts of what could have been a major season for the program.
They'd be in the discussion for the Big East title if they could've pulled out one or both of the games against WVU or Cinci. They're still mathematically alive for the title, but it'd take a miracle. Both of those games were still during the "Rutgers Offensive Retardation" period when anything or everything was going wrong on offense.
But hopefully to see RU get to a bowl game this year after what the season started off as, is a very positive thing for the program. And this team is still very young - the offensive line is going to be something else down the line - no seniors in the starting 5.
devilzrule27 11-15-2008, 04:27 PM They'd be in the discussion for the Big East title if they could've pulled out one or both of the games against WVU or Cinci. They're still mathematically alive for the title, but it'd take a miracle. Both of those games were still during the "Rutgers Offensive Retardation" period when anything or everything was going wrong on offense.
But hopefully to see RU get to a bowl game this year after what the season started off as, is a very positive thing for the program. And this team is still very young - the offensive line is going to be something else down the line - no seniors in the starting 5.
They better make a bowl this year. They've already takes a huge hit in recruiting and not getting bowl exposure will hurt it even more.
Ronnie Bass 11-15-2008, 05:37 PM And oh yeah, Kenny Britt is going to be a hellva nice NFL player, having a HUGE year and was big today, had 8 catches for 173 yards - including a 95 yrd td that was mostly him - and has now had more than 100 yards receiving in four straight games.
Clarkson Falls Down 11-15-2008, 06:07 PM And oh yeah, Kenny Britt is going to be a hellva nice NFL player, having a HUGE year and was big today, had 8 catches for 173 yards - including a 95 yrd td that was mostly him - and has now had more than 100 yards receiving in four straight games.
Even last year, when the overwhelming majority of the RU consensus was all over Tiquan Underwood, I was all over Britt. I've always felt that Tiquan was a bit overrated and that suspicion was confirmed by the rough year that he's had this year.
Britt has always had the tools to become an excellent pro and there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be a first day draft pick.
fortheloveof666 11-15-2008, 06:09 PM Even last year, when the overwhelming majority of the RU consensus was all over Tiquan Underwood, I was all over Britt. I've always felt that Tiquan was a bit overrated and that suspicion was confirmed by the rough year that he's had this year.
Britt has always had the tools to become an excellent pro and there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be a first day draft pick.
Underwood is a SICK speed receiver, he has that breakaway speed that makes him effective. But Britt is the complete package, speed and possession. I do think that he has the potential to be a legit #2 in the NFL somewhere.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-15-2008, 06:10 PM Glad to see RU winning, even though I'm not a fan at all.
But a 7-5 record in the 08-09 BigEast is :help:
Ronnie Bass 11-15-2008, 06:27 PM Glad to see RU winning, even though I'm not a fan at all.
But a 7-5 record in the 08-09 BigEast is :help:
Considering where they were after six weeks, it really doesn't matter. If Schiano and RU had gone 3-9 or 4-8 this season it could have been disastrous for his program, but the fact they have a very good shot at a bowl game would be the equivalent of a gopher in golf.
Clarkson Falls Down 11-15-2008, 06:28 PM Glad to see RU winning, even though I'm not a fan at all.
But a 7-5 record in the 08-09 BigEast is :help:
They're 4-2 in the Big East...
Ronnie Bass 11-15-2008, 06:29 PM They're 4-2 in the Big East...
And yeah, that too, lol.
HajdukSplit 11-15-2008, 07:13 PM good win, where was this the first five weeks of the season? They are still bowl eligible, and they still have a shot to play in a decent type bowl against a good opposition, rather than playing against some team like Akron or Bowling Green :D
next week should be an easy win
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-15-2008, 11:17 PM They're 4-2 in the Big East...
Yeah I know.. but what I'm saying is, they would have a 7-5 record at the end of the season while playing in such a mediocre conference. I'm being nice by calling the Big East mediocre...
devilzrule27 11-15-2008, 11:33 PM Yeah I know.. but what I'm saying is, they would have a 7-5 record at the end of the season while playing in such a mediocre conference. I'm being nice by calling the Big East mediocre...
They didn't find their offense until a couple of weeks ago. If they played like they were capable of from the start they would only have one or 2 losses.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-15-2008, 11:40 PM IF! And you're merely speculating :sarcasm:
devilzrule27 11-16-2008, 12:07 AM your right the fact is they didn't and they are going to pay the price for it when it comes to recruiting. It sucks becasue this feels like a wasted year.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-16-2008, 12:24 AM I can't remember, what were Rutger's preseason expectations?
Because right now I'm feeling like PSU's season was wasted since they aren't playing for the NC anymore, but the fact is most experts had them in 4th or 5th place in the Big Ten when they will most likely win the Big Ten and go to the Rose Bowl against USC or OSU.. gotta be optimistic.
devilzrule27 11-16-2008, 12:31 AM "experts" picked them to finish near the bottom but i think most Rutgers fans who follow the team thought we had a good chance at being top 3 and competing for the BE championship.
Its hard to be optimistic as a Rutgers fan. Bad seasons can quickly cripple any chance we have for sustained goodness. Were not like Penn State where there's a lore that attracts recruits even after bad seasons. I could be doom and glooming this a little too quickly but when i heard some recruits were backing out of their commitments after our start is troubling. AS you said this was a down year for the Big East. We should have taken advantage of that. That would have done wonders for advancing our program to the next level. Right now we are towing a fine line of slipping back to mediocrity or becoming a solid football program.
ILikeItVeryMuch 11-16-2008, 02:41 AM Jell-O Pudding Bowl, here we come!
guyincognito 11-16-2008, 03:50 AM Yeah I know.. but what I'm saying is, they would have a 7-5 record at the end of the season while playing in such a mediocre conference. I'm being nice by calling the Big East mediocre...
You're a Penn State fan, right?
They went into conference 1-3. They lost a close game to Cincy, which looks like a pretty good team and probably (it is the Big East afterall, so who knows) be in the BCS game against the ACC Champion as the Orange Bowl gets the crap game again.
This was without the offense working and Teel ******** the bed on the last drive of the game.
Then they went to Morgantown, where they don't win, and were down 7 with the ball. Teel ****ed up again and missed a wide open back before missing a bunch of other passes. That was game.
After that, they've been dominate and there's no reason I see that they won't kick the crap out of Army and L-Ville to finish the season.
If you are a Penn State fan, I wouldn't be looking down at the Big East, because I don't see Northwestern as the greatest power in college football history. Michigan State was competitive with Cal. Whoop-de-damn do. Cal is 6-4. Iowa, who beat Penn State, lost to Pitt. Rutgers turned Pitt into a splotch on the field.
And other than Illinois taking on Missouri, the Big 10 out of conference schedule for teams other than Ohio State is pure garbage time. It's not a good conference outside of the top 2 schools. Not even remotely, and those 2 schools get by on name recognition. If I'm the Big 10, I pray to the football gods that Oregon State
survives, because it will not be pretty otherwise.
I wish the Big East teams would schedule more Big 10 opponents. I'm guessing they'll actually accept the scheduling, unlike the cowards at ND that only want neutral site games.
guyincognito 11-16-2008, 03:57 AM lol, that was a little strong, but I don't see why they should be punished because they were adventureous with their out of conference schedule. They could have picked "random crappy MAC team" and Illinois and been 7-3 right now, even with how bad they were playing.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-16-2008, 10:41 AM Well if you want to do comparing, PSU beat Temple 45-3, Uconn Beat them 12-9.
You just can't do that sort of thing though, teams match up differently and it usually doesn't add up.
Rutgers' out of conference schedule isn't very good either... their best team was UNC and they got killed! UNC is mediocre at best this season.
The Big East reminds me a lot of the ACC, there are 4 teams at the top that are all average but there isn't one team that sticks out. (Cincy, Pitt, Rutgers (last few games), UConn)
We'll see how good the Big East does in their bowl games and their BCS game. If they do well, I'll eat crow... but until then :laugh:
Off topic, but here are my conference ratings:
Big 12, SEC, Moutain West, Big Ten, Pac 10, ACC, Big East.
It's close between the last 5 conferences, but the MW has 3 really good teams at the top. TCU, Utah and BYU. Other than that they are quite awful though.
ACC and Big East are just pools of mediocrity.
Pac-10 is down this year. ASU has been a flop, UCLA and CAL aren't very good.
jesters09 11-17-2008, 12:59 AM Rutgers has played one of the most difficult schedules in the nation
Rutgers's SOS is 12
Penn State SOS is 68
And you obviously do not know what youre talking about if say UNC is a medicore team this year. They are in the TOP 25 and have been playing with their backup QB for most of the season.
Darius Dangleaitis 11-17-2008, 01:33 AM Well if you want to do comparing, PSU beat Temple 45-3, Uconn Beat them 12-9.
You just can't do that sort of thing though, teams match up differently and it usually doesn't add up.
Rutgers' out of conference schedule isn't very good either... their best team was UNC and they got killed! UNC is mediocre at best this season.
The Big East reminds me a lot of the ACC, there are 4 teams at the top that are all average but there isn't one team that sticks out. (Cincy, Pitt, Rutgers (last few games), UConn)
We'll see how good the Big East does in their bowl games and their BCS game. If they do well, I'll eat crow... but until then :laugh:
Off topic, but here are my conference ratings:
Big 12, SEC, Moutain West, Big Ten, Pac 10, ACC, Big East.
It's close between the last 5 conferences, but the MW has 3 really good teams at the top. TCU, Utah and BYU. Other than that they are quite awful though.
ACC and Big East are just pools of mediocrity.
Pac-10 is down this year. ASU has been a flop, UCLA and CAL aren't very good.
UNC is one of many ACC teams that is legit. As a Miami fan I'm pretty familiar with the conference.
guyincognito 11-17-2008, 01:52 AM Rutgers has played one of the most difficult schedules in the nation
Rutgers's SOS is 12
Penn State SOS is 68
And you obviously do not know what youre talking about if say UNC is a medicore team this year. They are in the TOP 25 and have been playing with their backup QB for most of the season.
Is that modified for results? I've seen ones modified that have Rutgers at 25 or thereabouts and Penn State at 50 or thereabouts.
Rutgers out of conference is much riskier than it had to be. It's not "losing team playing the patsy" strong, but the Fresno State and UNC games were big risks. (Fresno has ended up being mediocre, but UNC ended up being better than expected.) Navy is always a pain in the ass. Their one weak out of conference (not counting FCS teams) is Army.
Penn State plays Oregon State, which is a relatively strong game that ended up being stronger than expected...
and then, Coastal Carolina, 'Cuse and Temple. They started the season 3-0 without even having to play.
guyincognito 11-17-2008, 02:03 AM Well if you want to do comparing, PSU beat Temple 45-3, Uconn Beat them 12-9.
You just can't do that sort of thing though, teams match up differently and it usually doesn't add up.
Rutgers' out of conference schedule isn't very good either... their best team was UNC and they got killed! UNC is mediocre at best this season.
The Big East reminds me a lot of the ACC, there are 4 teams at the top that are all average but there isn't one team that sticks out. (Cincy, Pitt, Rutgers (last few games), UConn)
We'll see how good the Big East does in their bowl games and their BCS game. If they do well, I'll eat crow... but until then :laugh:
Off topic, but here are my conference ratings:
Big 12, SEC, Moutain West, Big Ten, Pac 10, ACC, Big East.
It's close between the last 5 conferences, but the MW has 3 really good teams at the top. TCU, Utah and BYU. Other than that they are quite awful though.
ACC and Big East are just pools of mediocrity.
Pac-10 is down this year. ASU has been a flop, UCLA and CAL aren't very good.
Pac 10 is stronger than the Big 10 on the strength of one team.
Not to mention, Cal over Michigan State. Oregon over Purdue. Pac-10 went 3-1 against the Big 10.
Big 10, ACC and Big East have alot more in common with each other than you think.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-17-2008, 04:37 PM Rutgers has played one of the most difficult schedules in the nation
Rutgers's SOS is 12
Penn State SOS is 68
And you obviously do not know what youre talking about if say UNC is a medicore team this year. They are in the TOP 25 and have been playing with their backup QB for most of the season.
Well SOS really needs to be re-evaluated... Navy? Morgan State? Army? These are all equivalent to Syracuse, Temple and Coastal Carolina for PSU... and if you talk down about Syracuse.. well they are in the Big East and Temple almost beat UConn.
And if you want to play the "when you played them" card, then it works for both sides. Fresno State was ranked in the top 25 for some odd reason when Rutgers played them. Well Illinois was a top 25 team vs PSU, Wisconsin was still a very solid team when PSU demolished them, OSU was top 12 and still is, MSU will be Top 20, Oregon State is a top 25 team and could win the Pac-10.
Its a tough topic since college football fluctuates so much.
Take WVU for example, they lose to ECU and Colorado? But then they win most of their Big East schedule..
Louisville beats a top 15 USF and then loses to Syracuse.
Pitt has been up and down as well.
I think the most solid team in the Big East is Cincy, besides their loss to UConn. Hopefully they win out so they create less confusion in the Big East and make it more clear cut.
Being in the Top 25 doesn't automatically mean you're a good team.. Tulsa was in the Top 25, so was Fresno State, Auburn, etc..
Because of all these up and down trends of NCAAF, it just backs up the need for a playoff..
Clarkson Falls Down 11-17-2008, 04:50 PM Well SOS really needs to be re-evaluated... Navy? Morgan State? Army? These are all equivalent to Syracuse, Temple and Coastal Carolina for PSU... and if you talk down about Syracuse.. well they are in the Big East and Temple almost beat UConn.
And if you want to play the "when you played them" card, then it works for both sides. Fresno State was ranked in the top 25 for some odd reason when Rutgers played them. Well Illinois was a top 25 team vs PSU, Wisconsin was still a very solid team when PSU demolished them, OSU was top 12 and still is, MSU will be Top 20, Oregon State is a top 25 team and could win the Pac-10.
Its a tough topic since college football fluctuates so much.
Take WVU for example, they lose to ECU and Colorado? But then they win most of their Big East schedule..
Louisville beats a top 15 USF and then loses to Syracuse.
Pitt has been up and down as well.
I think the most solid team in the Big East is Cincy, besides their loss to UConn. Hopefully they win out so they create less confusion in the Big East and make it more clear cut.
Being in the Top 25 doesn't automatically mean you're a good team.. Tulsa was in the Top 25, so was Fresno State, Auburn, etc..
Because of all these up and down trends of NCAAF, it just backs up the need for a playoff..
It's not going to be a big playoff and it shouldn't be. 8 teams it should be - basically a plus one - use the BCS bowls as your quarterfinal games and tie in the conference champions with their normal BCS bowl tie in (SEC with Sugar, ACC with Orange, etc).
But while I'm in favor of conference champions getting automatic births, if they were going do something that I would propose, conference champs would have to be in the top 12 to qualify. You just can't have a 20th ranked Cinci team and a 25th ranked Maryland team getting into an 8 team playoff.
guyincognito 11-17-2008, 04:57 PM It's not going to be a big playoff and it shouldn't be. 8 teams it should be - basically a plus one - use the BCS bowls as your quarterfinal games and tie in the conference champions with their normal BCS bowl tie in (SEC with Sugar, ACC with Orange, etc).
But while I'm in favor of conference champions getting automatic births, if they were going do something that I would propose, conference champs would have to be in the top 12 to qualify. You just can't have a 20th ranked Cinci team and a 25th ranked Maryland team getting into an 8 team playoff.
It should be sixteen, but that'll never happen.
I think the only thing that has any chance of happening is a plus one with 4 teams, with two of the BSC bowls rotating the semifinal games and the Championship game being pushed back a week or so.
Still, this is just as messy because the race for the 4th and final spot will be brutal.
There's not that many teams that usually can make a case for 1 and 2, you'll have a couple of pissed off teams, but when you get out to 4, alot more teams ended up with cases.
Clarkson Falls Down 11-17-2008, 05:03 PM It should be sixteen, but that'll never happen.
I think the only thing that has any chance of happening is a plus one with 4 teams, with two of the BSC bowls rotating the semifinal games and the Championship game being pushed back a week or so.
Still, this is just as messy because the race for the 4th and final spot will be brutal.
There's not that many teams that usually can make a case for 1 and 2, you'll have a couple of pissed off teams, but when you get out to 4, alot more teams ended up with cases.
Which is why 8 would make more sense than 4. The argument over the 8th seed would be shut off by alot of fans saying "well, too bad" instead of the fight over the 2nd spot which creates nation-wide anger.
The biggest obstacle for having an 8 team playoff and using the bowls in any-tie in is the Rose Bowl. What a bunch of stubborn folks - and I'm a Michigan fan in addition to being an RU fan.
DevsOwnYou 11-18-2008, 04:13 PM I have tix for the RU vs Army game, this Saturday Nov. 22 12pm at Rutgers Stadium.
DevsOwnYou 11-19-2008, 09:28 PM [QUOTE=DevsOwnYou;16390672]I have tix for the RU vs Army game, this Saturday Nov. 22 12pm at Rutgers Stadium.
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*****EDIT**** Tix are no longer available
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-20-2008, 09:46 PM Another ranked ACC team is about to lose.. I believe FSU was the highest ranked team at around ~16 since Clemson being 9 at the beginning of the season?
There are 5 or 6 teams with a 7-3 record in the league, my god can you get more even?
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-22-2008, 03:19 PM Is this whole ranked ACC team thing a curse? UNC just got slaughtered.
I forget who or when but somebody said UNC is a good team.. they are NOT, just like I've been saying all year.
Maryland will probably lose today since they are ranked. I don't know how the AP can rank ACC teams anymore they will just lose!
jkrdevil 11-22-2008, 03:41 PM Is this whole ranked ACC team thing a curse? UNC just got slaughtered.
I forget who or when but somebody said UNC is a good team.. they are NOT, just like I've been saying all year.
Maryland will probably lose today since they are ranked. I don't know how the AP can rank ACC teams anymore they will just lose!
It's going to feel like 23 degrees tonight at kickoff in College Park. There is no way a team from Florida is going to win in tempatures like that. Then again remember I'm a Maryland student. So here' to a nice cold Terps win tonight.
Your right UNC isn't a good team. I saw them live last week and they made the Maryland defense look good.
As for the ACC it is a very even and underrated conference. There are no great team but there are a bunch of very good teams. The out of conference record for the conference is actually very good.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 11-22-2008, 05:39 PM People used that same philosophy when Tampa Bay had to play the Eagles a few years ago and it didn't prove true at all. Green Bay is also an "excellent" team in the cold, that was proved wrong last year as well.
Who knows..
Clarkson Falls Down 11-22-2008, 10:30 PM It's going to feel like 23 degrees tonight at kickoff in College Park. There is no way a team from Florida is going to win in tempatures like that. Then again remember I'm a Maryland student. So here' to a nice cold Terps win tonight.
Your right UNC isn't a good team. I saw them live last week and they made the Maryland defense look good.
As for the ACC it is a very even and underrated conference. There are no great team but there are a bunch of very good teams. The out of conference record for the conference is actually very good.
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Jiri Bicek 11-22-2008, 10:59 PM It's going to feel like 23 degrees tonight at kickoff in College Park. There is no way a team from Florida is going to win in tempatures like that. Then again remember I'm a Maryland student. So here' to a nice cold Terps win tonight.
:)
I love my Seminoles and Myron Rolle (played high school football in NJ) but that tv coverage was absurd..
I have great respect for him for his academic achievement and setting the right priorities but ESPN, please!
Way way too over the top like a presidential arrival.. They wouldn't even let him dress in the locker room with out a camera in his face.. ESPN can be like MTV far too often.
guyincognito 11-22-2008, 11:37 PM Notre Dame. :laugh:
Still want to dictate where you'll play road games?
jkrdevil 11-22-2008, 11:49 PM Well I did say I was speaking frm my heart but that was downright embarrising tonight. Hopefully heads will roll because that game was unacceptable
Oh well, at least they are better than Rutgers.
Clarkson Falls Down 11-23-2008, 12:43 AM Oh well, at least they are better than Rutgers.
You say that with a lot of conviction
I'd wager a good amount of money that Rutgers would beat Maryland, on any field. This is no ordinary 6-5 football team - the hottest team in the Big East right now.
guyincognito 11-23-2008, 12:45 AM You say that with a lot of conviction
I'd wager a good amount of money that Rutgers would beat Maryland, on any field. This is no ordinary 6-5 football team - the hottest team in the Big East right now.
We might get to find out... in that crappy Meinieke Bowl.
BrodeurRULES 12-04-2008, 10:19 PM Where was this team during first 6 games of the season.............Anyway WOOT GO RU!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZZ Pops 12-04-2008, 10:31 PM Mike Teel has thrown for 447 yards and 7 TD
lmao
BrodeurRULES 12-04-2008, 10:33 PM O green man is there :laugh:
BrodeurRULES 12-04-2008, 10:35 PM Mike Teel has thrown for 447 yards and 7 TD
lmao
ya i didn't expect to see that today.
Clarkson Falls Down 12-04-2008, 11:27 PM Great night for me. Devils with a huge win. Rutgers puts a pounding on the 'Ville, and the Raiders are getting shallacked.
Couldn't be better :)
devilzrule27 12-04-2008, 11:31 PM we were 3 ****ing points from going to a god damn BCS Bowl!
Clarkson Falls Down 12-04-2008, 11:55 PM we were 3 ****ing points from going to a god damn BCS Bowl!
Ugh. Don't get me started on that. I didn't seem like a big deal at the time because of how poorly the team looked, but it's amazing and frustrating at the same time that ****ing Cincinnati is the reason why in 2 out of the last 3 years, this team isn't in a BCS bowl game.
devilzrule27 12-05-2008, 07:59 AM Ugh. Don't get me started on that. I didn't seem like a big deal at the time because of how poorly the team looked, but it's amazing and frustrating at the same time that ****ing Cincinnati is the reason why in 2 out of the last 3 years, this team isn't in a BCS bowl game.
I ****ing hate Cincy! I hate them more then any other team in our conference. Sure WV sucks and UConn has given us some problems but Cincy has been a thorn in our sides since they joined the conference. I was really hoping they would fall apart once their coach left but no here they are still kicking.
cj225 12-05-2008, 02:17 PM Vote for Rutgers for the Sun Bowl!
http://www.sunbowl.org/
Darius Dangleaitis 12-05-2008, 02:18 PM That was a thorough ass whooping for the whole nation to see. Awesome.
Ronnie Bass 12-10-2008, 09:51 PM Rutgers fired Robert Mulcahy.
devilzrule27 12-10-2008, 10:00 PM Rutgers fired Robert Mulcahy.
:handclap:
or maybe
:shakehead:
ah whatever.
BrodeurRULES 12-10-2008, 10:27 PM Aren't we going to the Pappajohns bowl (sp?)
devilzrule27 12-10-2008, 10:39 PM Aren't we going to the Pappajohns bowl (sp?)
indeed against 6-6 NC State.
BrodeurRULES 12-10-2008, 10:40 PM indeed against 6-6 NC State.
I guess better then nothing after the way we started. Who knows what would have happen if they did this all season long. (as in winning lol)
devilzrule27 12-10-2008, 10:43 PM I guess better then nothing after the way we started. Who knows what would have happen if they did this all season long. (as in winning lol)
not even all season long. Just against Cincy! We'd be in the BCS right now.:rant:
guyincognito 12-10-2008, 10:48 PM Rutgers fired Robert Mulcahy.
I think this is a bad sign for the football program. IIRC.
Jonathan. 12-19-2008, 01:11 PM Got ourselves a 4 star DT today.
What a recruiting class this has been.
Darius Dangleaitis 12-19-2008, 01:30 PM Got ourselves a 4 star DT today.
What a recruiting class this has been.
Antwan Lowery. He seems like a pretty special talent. I'm a Miami fan, so I keep on the recruiting trail, especially with kids from Florida. We offered him, but passed on him in the end because we recruited him as a guard and he wanted to stay on defense. We already have some solid kids like Marcus Forston (Freshman All-American), and a couple of '09 and even '10 commitments at DT anyway.
Anyways, Rutgers is my second favorite team, so if not Miami, I'd rather see Rutgers.
Jonathan. 12-19-2008, 11:51 PM Antwan Lowery. He seems like a pretty special talent. I'm a Miami fan, so I keep on the recruiting trail, especially with kids from Florida. We offered him, but passed on him in the end because we recruited him as a guard and he wanted to stay on defense. We already have some solid kids like Marcus Forston (Freshman All-American), and a couple of '09 and even '10 commitments at DT anyway.
Anyways, Rutgers is my second favorite team, so if not Miami, I'd rather see Rutgers.
I'm a pretty big U fan myself, so it is nice to see a kid come to Rutgers and actually reject a big school like the U.
I'm a huge fan of this move since, frankly, Rutgers defense is based off of the D-line. Blitz, blitz, blitz. The team should always be built from the D-line out on the defensive end. As long as a few solid DBs are in place, it should be fine.
Loving this recruiting class. The Savage commit made my year as a Rutgers fan.
JLHockeyKnight 12-24-2008, 03:21 PM Monday isn't too far away now...
guyincognito 12-29-2008, 04:48 PM what a crappy half of football that was. The only play they looked prepared was the fake FG. NC State was ready to go, we weren't. Dunno how you can be prepared to play Pat White, but not this kid.
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 04:52 PM what a crappy half of football that was. The only play they looked prepared was the fake FG. NC State was ready to go, we weren't. Dunno how you can be prepared to play Pat White, but not this kid.
O good at least I know I didn't miss much during the first half. Guess I am glad I missed it now. Hopefully they wake up for the 2nd half.
LETS GO RU!!!!!!
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 05:08 PM RU better take advantage of the injury but that sucks that he got injured
guyincognito 12-29-2008, 05:21 PM that was the dumbest playcall in football history.
"Gee, we're moving the ball down the field, I know what we should do, have the LT throw a pass! That way, we either blow a down or he gets picked off!"
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 05:23 PM that was the dumbest playcall in football history.
"Gee, we're moving the ball down the field, I know what we should do, have the LT throw a pass! That way, we either blow a down or he gets picked off!"
ya that was stupid. I couldn't believe they decided to go for that but if it had work it would have been great lol
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 05:28 PM They got lucky to get TD after another stupid play lol............I mean honestly do they expect them to be fool everytime.
guyincognito 12-29-2008, 05:30 PM They got lucky to get TD after another stupid play lol............I mean honestly do they expect them to be fool everytime.
just brain damaged. line up and play football, and you'll win the game, because the other QB isn't a Pat White clone
guyincognito 12-29-2008, 05:49 PM man, they got a break when the NC State OC moroned up and let that kid throw. Teel's gotta be smarter than that
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 05:55 PM O look they took lead and its about time. It should have been a TD though not a dam FG
guyincognito 12-29-2008, 05:57 PM O look they took lead and its about time. It should have been a TD though not a dam FG
yeah, McNulty's trying to get fired. every other play (sometimes more) is a gimmick.
Why do they even have Kenny Britt if they're not going to use him?
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 06:02 PM Stop letting the little qb DO THAT RU!
He looks so small on tv to me that is lol
yeah, McNulty's trying to get fired. every other play (sometimes more) is a gimmick.
Why do they even have Kenny Britt if they're not going to use him?
Britt is just for show today.
Devils Pride 26 12-29-2008, 06:03 PM Defense sucks at coverage, blitz never gets there on time.
fortheloveof666 12-29-2008, 06:03 PM Wow was that embarrassing.
guyincognito 12-29-2008, 06:05 PM The D is ****ing horrible, the second QB was just so bad he masked it. Amazing how a defensive coach can consistantly have such bad D.
Schiano is lucky that he can recruit and be a spokesperson, because as a football coach, he'd be in Div II
Devils Pride 26 12-29-2008, 06:10 PM Te is probably the worst kicker I've ever seen. He sucks, how the **** is he a NCAA D1 kicker? I know kids that hit 40 yarders with ease and play football with a kid that's hit a 50 yarder. ****ing sad.
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 06:11 PM WOW nice play WOOOOOOOOT
See there is Britt lol.........I guess they were just saying it for now.
Darius Dangleaitis 12-29-2008, 06:12 PM Nice toss Teel.
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 06:32 PM OK no trick play now
Devils Pride 26 12-29-2008, 06:38 PM Need a pick 6 to cover :(
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 06:40 PM WOOT.........At least they pulled it out
Devils Pride 26 12-29-2008, 06:42 PM Good job Rutgers. Go to h*ll Te. You shank a 30 yarder and I don't cover.
Darius Dangleaitis 12-29-2008, 06:42 PM Woo hoo 3 in a row.
guyincognito 12-29-2008, 06:49 PM Take it and just pretend that Wilson kid didn't get hurt. :)
Maybe some big wins by Pitt and Cincy and the Big East can get some respect and get some halfway decent bowl tie-ins.
BrodeurRULES 12-29-2008, 07:03 PM Take it and just pretend that Wilson kid didn't get hurt. :)
Maybe some big wins by Pitt and Cincy and the Big East can get some respect and get some halfway decent bowl tie-ins.
What Wilson got hurt u lie ? :D
SCOTTIESTEVENS 12-31-2008, 03:37 PM Wasn't sure if I should start a Rutgers basketball thread.. but they are beating Pitt right now with 9 to go in the game and they have been winning most of the game.
As I typed that, Pitt tied it up 55-55.
Its on MSG as usual.
In case you're a foreigner to NCAAB, Pitt is #3 and Rutgers has not done well this season so far against weak opponents (besides UNC)
I think I might be jinxing this because as I type Pitt goes up by 2 :shakehead
Edit: 666th post :D
Harrison Ford 12-31-2008, 04:03 PM Basketball goes nowhere near these forums.
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