Vishnevski on the way out the door....

Lou quote:

It appears defenseman Vitaly Vishnevski, who signed a three-year, $5.4 million contract last summer, is on his way out. If the Devils can't find a taker in a trade, they could place Vishnevski on waivers and, if he's not claimed, send him to the minors, which would clear $1.8 million in cap space.

When asked if Vishnevski would be on the team next season, Lamoriello replied, "I can't answer that."

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/devils/Devils_seek_more_defensive_help.html

Good luck Vish, I hope you find a home. We need the super comic to mark his passing NSP.

Also, looks like Lou will be clearing salary as he said we wont be near the cap by the start of next season.

Dont like the fact that he like's the defense as is, but at least he is looking for another body.

Another smart move by Lou. A guy like Vishnevski just can't be allowed to take up $1.8 million of our cap space this year...

if this is true this can open up alot of doors for us

I could see Toronto maybe being interested in him. Someone in the Toronto media (I can't remember who) was talking about the Finger deal and saying that Toronto wanted to get a little tougher especially on defence. Maybe the Devils could package Vishnevski and Greene together to get Kubina or (pipe dream) Kaberle.

I'd be pretty surprised if a team didn't take him. His contract is not bad by any means after this offseason's market and he's a physical defenceman who's not even 30 yet.

getting rid of dead weight, making room for a youngster + saving some $$$ = I'm :D

I just hope Lou can trade him. His salary doesn't seem as bad anymore, but we don't need him and I'd hate to lose him for nothing.

I'll miss his comics also, but oh well.

A mistake signing Vishnevski in the first place for $5.4 M. Lou has made a number of these mistakes but at least he admits it and is trying to fix the problem. I like Rolston at center and as I have said many times Elias needs to be back at wing to be effective. Who will be the other wing Gio or Parise? I hope Parise he best to adapt to the speed of Elias.

I like the way VV plays te game, always trying to knock somebody on their ass. If this improves the team, then go for it. I wouldn't understand why someone wouldn't want the guy. Not suggesting he's Bobby Orr, but decent 5-6 guy.

A mistake signing Vishnevski in the first place for $5.4 M. Lou has made a number of these mistakes but at least he admits it and is trying to fix the problem.

I think thats due to the fact that going into 2007-2008, our defense was softer than marshmallow. After loosing Luko to free agency, Lou felt he needed to add some physicality.

At least that's how I see it.

I like the way VV plays te game, always trying to knock somebody on their ass. If this improves the team, then go for it. I wouldn't understand why someone wouldn't want the guy. Not suggesting he's Bobby Orr, but decent 5-6 guy.

Until he develops an all around game, he's not worth it. Janssen could beat the crap out of people and hit and aggitate but he didn't have an all around game or seem to be developing it. For a player who won't likely see much ice time this year, it is worth it.

A mistake signing Vishnevski in the first place for $5.4 M. Lou has made a number of these mistakes but at least he admits it and is trying to fix the problem. I like Rolston at center and as I have said many times Elias needs to be back at wing to be effective. Who will be the other wing Gio or Parise? I hope Parise he best to adapt to the speed of Elias.

this is where many of you guys get it wrong, elias is not moving from the center position. this team still has a huge problem at center.
zajac proved he was not ready to be a #1 or #2 center last season. so elias became #1 and in all reality madden was #2 center last season

that has not changed, if rolston was brought in to play center, then it is to replace zajac as #2 center. but my thoughts are that he will be on the wing and we go with zajac/madden/holik as #2,3, and 4

if rolston was brought in to play center than zajac is either being traded or moved to the wing. elias will remain at center however

that has not changed, if rolston was brought in to play center, then it is to replace zajac as #2 center. but my thoughts are that he will be on the wing and we go with zajac/madden/holik as #2,3, and 4

if rolston was brought in to play center than zajac is either being traded or moved to the wing. elias will remain at center however

Did you read the article? Sutter and Lou believe Rolston can fill our weak center ice position.

I think their top 6 agenda is:

Elias - Rolston - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner

Wether you agree with that is another thing.

I just hope Lou can trade him. His salary doesn't seem as bad anymore, but we don't need him and I'd hate to lose him for nothing.

I'll miss his comics also, but oh well.It's time for a Bobby Holik comic strip!
The power of the unibrow!!!:nod:

What defensemen are still available that the Devs could sign, post ridding of Vishnevsky?

I too think that's a smart move. With this plethora of defensemen that we have, I think it's time to let VV go and give Corrente a shot.

Watch the Rangers take him when and if he goes on waivers.

Lou says that he likes the defense the way it is now???? great!!! "if we can make it better, we'll make it better".... Nooooooo we NEED to make it better...come on this defense might be good for regular season, but play-off time we'll be playing golf after first round again..

Lou says that he likes the defense the way it is now???? great!!! "if we can make it better, we'll make it better".... Nooooooo we NEED to make it better...come on this defense might be good for regular season, but play-off time we'll be playing golf after first round again..
It's typical Lou-speak. :laugh:

I think their top 6 agenda is:

Elias - Rolston - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner


I hope you're right, Brit. Parise is our man on O but Gio can match a speed game with anybody and would be a perfect wing companion with Elias, IMO.

Maybe would like to see Langenbrunner with Madden and Pando or Madden and Zubrus though :yo:

I like the way VV plays te game, always trying to knock somebody on their ass. If this improves the team, then go for it. I wouldn't understand why someone wouldn't want the guy. Not suggesting he's Bobby Orr, but decent 5-6 guy.

Exactly.

I like him too - beyond the comic humor - but he simply puts himself out of position too often to lay that big hit. I'm sure someone will want him and even be willing to trade something for him. Either a prospect or picks... I don't care but I'd really like to see a combo package with him and more to get that elusive puck moving D-man we've all been talking about. :nod:

Vitaly Vishnevski's $1.8 million contract is only 3.2% of the maximum cap. That's not really a lot of space to most teams, but the Devils may need it.

I like what Vishnevski brought to the Devils defensive coprs. He is a very good hitter. Have a look at his numbers over the last three years:

SEASON|TEAM|GP|Hits|H/GP
2005-06| ANA|82|196|2.4
2006-07| ATL/NSH|67|155|2.3
2007-08| NJD|69|140|2.0

Vishnevski just shouldn't be used late in games to protect leads. He is not good on coverage.

I do prefer trading Vishnevski to add a puck-moving defenseman/power play quarterback over trading Gionta for one. Trading Gionta would create a whole in the top six (I'm hoping that Coach Sutter uses Madden's line as a shutdown line and Gionta on the top line for the whole season) that can't be adaquetly filled by Zubrus or a rookie like Bergfors.

I just hope Lou can trade him. His salary doesn't seem as bad anymore, but we don't need him and I'd hate to lose him for nothing.

I'll miss his comics also, but oh well.

I highly doubt Lou can trade him with two years left on his contract. Either Lou will have to put him on waivers and pay half his salary or he will be in Lowell.

I highly doubt Lou can trade him with two years left on his contract. Either Lou will have to put him on waivers and pay half his salary or he will be in Lowell.

Now that Tampa really has NO DEFENCE, That fourth from SJ would look nice for both parties.....

Watch the Rangers take him when and if he goes on waivers.

God I hope so. I dont see it though.

Maybe a team like LA would be willing to pick him up. They are short on D-man on their roster and are about 10 M$ short on the minimum cap (if I remember correctly that is' 40 M$). VV's salary would help them out to get up there.

I really hope Lou can make a significant move after this. If not, let Corrente take the job and run with it.

I don't see how any team would NOT want VV. With the market full of Jeff Fingers... putting VV on waivers is quite wasteful...

But seeing as Lou tipped his hand... dammit.

Honestly, who isn't surprised?? We knew he was getting traded or waived ever since the start of the offseason. Not to mention, Lou said he would try to acquire a top 3 defenseman. Vish was out in my opinion midway through the season.

A mistake signing Vishnevski in the first place for $5.4 M. Lou has made a number of these mistakes but at least he admits it and is trying to fix the problem. I like Rolston at center and as I have said many times Elias needs to be back at wing to be effective. Who will be the other wing Gio or Parise? I hope Parise he best to adapt to the speed of Elias.

I don't think it was a mistake. It was an experiment that didn't work out. You have to take risks and this one didn't pan out. Mogilny and Malakhov were mistakes. Vish... eh.

I don't think it was a mistake. It was an experiment that didn't work out. You have to take risks and this one didn't pan out. Mogilny and Malakhov were mistakes. Vish... eh.

The Vishinator comic strip series was well worth $5 mil alone...

Last offseason we complained about how small our players were and how we got pushed around, but now it doesn't seem that big of a deal since we know Clarkson is a pretty good hitter, and we got Holik. Vishnevski added a great physical presence on the ice, but we aren't really in need of that anymore.

Last offseason we complained about how small our players were and how we got pushed around, but now it doesn't seem that big of a deal since we know Clarkson is a pretty good hitter, and we got Holik. Vishnevski added a great physical presence on the ice, but we aren't really in need of that anymore.
He does bring a presence from the blueline, which is something we definitely lack. But he doesn't bring anything else. At all.

He does bring a presence from the blueline, which is something we definitely lack. But he doesn't bring anything else. At all.
My problem with him is that his physicality is completely one dimensional. He's great at hitting people (though he ends up out of position too often), but for a physical defenseman he really doesn't clear the crease or knock people off the puck along the boards.

It was an interesting experiment, but unfortunately it didn't completely work out.

If we dont add anyone then what do we got?

Martin-White
Oduya-Salvador
Greene-Corrente/Salmela
Mottau

I dont wanna break up Martin and Oduya but Sal is being paid like a top 4 so my guess is he will play there. And he is too slow to be paired with White. As for the bottom 6, I think Lou will be depending on Corrente, Salmela, or Eckford to have a stadout camp otherwise it looks like Brookbank might be in the plans. Mottau is always safe as a 6/7 guy. I think we could manage with this D, as long as we pick up a rental at the deadline.

If we dont add anyone then what do we got?

Martin-White
Oduya-Salvador
Greene-Corrente/Salmela
Mottau

I dont wanna break up Martin and Oduya but Sal is being paid like a top 4 so my guess is he will play there. And he is too slow to be paired with White. As for the bottom 6, I think Lou will be depending on Corrente, Salmela, or Eckford to have a stadout camp otherwise it looks like Brookbank might be in the plans. Mottau is always safe as a 6/7 guy. I think we could manage with this D, as long as we pick up a rental at the deadline.
Salvador skates very well when compared to White.

Salvador skates very well when compared to White.

Stephen Hawking skates very well when compared to White.

Stephen Hawking skates very well when compared to Whitehttp://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa233/shredtastical/I-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

I don't think it was a mistake. It was an experiment that didn't work out. You have to take risks and this one didn't pan out. Mogilny and Malakhov were mistakes. Vish... eh.

My problem with him is that his physicality is completely one dimensional. He's great at hitting people (though he ends up out of position too often), but for a physical defenseman he really doesn't clear the crease or knock people off the puck along the boards.

It was an interesting experiment, but unfortunately it didn't completely work out.

I think we all for the experiment when he was signed, especially since we have LR, but it just seems that reclamation projects never work out for NJD. Not that Lou makes to many of those signing any way. Just would be nice to have a waiver claim or something of the sort be home run once in awhile.

Stephen Hawking skates very well when compared to White.


Hahaha hilarious. Lou's mistakes started with White's ridiculous 6 year contract. If we could only dump White along with VV.

Hahaha hilarious. Lou's mistakes started with White's ridiculous 6 year contract. If we could only dump White along with VV.

look at whites contract compared to others that were signing this offseason (jeff finger). white was overpayed now he is a bargain. still dont like the ntc

Hahaha hilarious. Lou's mistakes started with White's ridiculous 6 year contract. If we could only dump White along with VV.

White's contract was great when it was signed. How was Lou supposed to know that he'd lose an eye two years into it?

White's contract was great when it was signed. How was Lou supposed to know that he'd lose an eye two years into it?

In hindsight (no pun intended), Whitey's contract wasn't bad financially in comparison to what crap defensemen are getting today. The issue I and others have is he wasn't worth the money/years/NTC he got when he signed it a few years ago. So, in some way, it's just as bad a contract as some people are getting today because he's not very good, has a severe eye injury and has a NTC.

Salvador skates very well when compared to White.

If you pay attention to the NHL skills competitions over the past several seasons, Salvador has been consistenly in the top 50 players (forwards and d-men) for skating speed and among the top 25 for shot velocity.

Give him a break, he was playing on a broken leg last spring.

Oh **** No

Oh **** No
You might have time for one more comic ;)

You might have time for one more comic ;)

Vish & Sarge hit the town - Starsky & Hutch style?

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/vagel117/funny/Untitled-1-18.jpg

Vish & Sarge hit the town - Starsky & Hutch style?

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/vagel117/funny/Untitled-1-18.jpg

oduya can be huggie bear. hahaha

This is VERY good news...But I have a feeling we are going to sign Jason Smith for 1.5 million...But still, I would rather have Smith than Vishnevski. There has gotta be a taker in trade for him though, even if it is just for like a 4th round pick

This is VERY good news...But I have a feeling we are going to sign Jason Smith for 1.5 million...But still, I would rather have Smith than Vishnevski. There has gotta be a taker in trade for him though, even if it is just for like a 4th round pick


Per the NHL trade frenzy forum; this response pretty much summed up the Jason Smith situation.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1051/1170679054_e455ba3bbd.jpg?v=0

Two words: broken wheels.

In hindsight (no pun intended), Whitey's contract wasn't bad financially in comparison to what crap defensemen are getting today. The issue I and others have is he wasn't worth the money/years/NTC he got when he signed it a few years ago. So, in some way, it's just as bad a contract as some people are getting today because he's not very good, has a severe eye injury and has a NTC.



Exactly!