To anyone who still wants to trade White:

Not to clutter the boards with another White thread, but it needed to be said:

Jeff Finger: $3.5M per over 4 years

Brooks Orpik: $3.75M per over 6 years

Mike Commodore: $3.5M per over 5 years

Jim Vandermeer: $2.33M per over 3 years

None of the above defensemen are better than White (I don't care what anyone says, Brooks "I don't know how to play good positional defense" Orpik is not better), but they will be earning more than him for the next several seasons. Jim Vandermeer is a glorified bottom-pairing defenseman who was awful for the majority of last year and he still got $2.33M/per.

White's deal is a bargain.

White's deal is a bargain.

I agree, to the extent his eyes are not preventing him from being the Colin White we need him to be. He was not his usual self last year. Maybe that can be chalked up to the psychological after-effects of the injury.

Nobody here wants anything less than White being what he was pre-injury.

A one eyed white is better then all of those listed, but its the kind of heat that all defensive d-men take, they do the most of the dirty work and if they get beat (sometimes) thats all that people remember.

We need a real workhorse defenseman like Rafalski was. Not nessecarily Rafalski caliber, just some guy who can eat up +20 minutes a night and take the heat off the other guys. Martin did a pretty good job last year but it seems like such a waste to have him pile up shutdown minutes when he could be doing more, like moving the puck up ice. Much like White, he's still a good player, but he can't get as many minutes as he used to with his eye condition.

Or, we can get another Salvador-like defenseman (top 4 but nothing special and a manageable salary). If we're not going to have a big stud defenseman we at least need to be iron-clad 1 through 6.

Orpik is a hack, he fooled the Pens into this latest absurd contract.

Not to clutter the boards with another White thread, but it needed to be said:

Jeff Finger: $3.5M per over 4 years

Brooks Orpik: $3.75M per over 6 years

Mike Commodore: $3.5M per over 5 years

Jim Vandermeer: $2.33M per over 3 years

None of the above defensemen are better than White (I don't care what anyone says, Brooks "I don't know how to play good positional defense" Orpik is not better), but they will be earning more than him for the next several seasons. Jim Vandermeer is a glorified bottom-pairing defenseman who was awful for the majority of last year and he still got $2.33M/per.

White's deal is a bargain.


:laugh::laugh::laugh: you're kidding me right? White is in the same category of overpaid d-men. All you did was find more players that are in his category.

Not to clutter the boards with another White thread, but it needed to be said:

Jeff Finger: $3.5M per over 4 years

Brooks Orpik: $3.75M per over 6 years

Mike Commodore: $3.5M per over 5 years

Jim Vandermeer: $2.33M per over 3 years

None of the above defensemen are better than White (I don't care what anyone says, Brooks "I don't know how to play good positional defense" Orpik is not better), but they will be earning more than him for the next several seasons. Jim Vandermeer is a glorified bottom-pairing defenseman who was awful for the majority of last year and he still got $2.33M/per.

White's deal is a bargain.


:laugh::laugh::laugh: you're kidding me right? White is in the same category of overpaid d-men. All you did was find more players that are in his category.

Do you understand what a "market" is? Well, let me explain. The market for defensive defenseman who can bring a physical element is set at almost $3M for bottom pairing guys. Why? Well, the cap is now $56.7M and there's an increased focus on unrestricted free agency. I didn't cherry-pick certain players - this IS what defenders of White's ilk are getting paid. Even go back to last summer when Cory Sarich received $3.6M a year. On his contract, White is a bargain, whether you care to admit or not.

Further, when on his game, White is a solid #3 defenseman. He's making less than the aforementioned players even though he's better than all of them. If we were to trade White, and attempt to replace his skillset with a similar player, we would end up getting an inferior defender at a greater price. With the cap it's all about assessing value, and on his contract, White is a valuable player.

Although I wouldn't expect an objective analysis of the situation given your user handle.

Defensive defensemen are like offensive linemen in football. If they're playing well you don't really notice them, but when they do make a mistake it gets magnified.

White is a solid defensemen with a very fair contract. I just don't get the hate.

Defensive defensemen are like offensive linemen in football. If they're playing well you don't really notice them, but when they do make a mistake it gets magnified.

White is a solid defensemen with a very fair contract. I just don't get the hate.

I think most people are mad about the length of the deal. 6 yrs. is an awful lot for a guy now with 1 eye. When healthy id still take him over those guy mentioned at the top.

I think most people are mad about the length of the deal. 6 yrs. is an awful lot for a guy now with 1 eye. When healthy id still take him over those guy mentioned at the top.

Unbelievable......we didn't sign him to that contract when h e had the eye injury.

I think in the long run Orpik will be overall better and more effective than Colin White will.

But just because idiot teams paid that for those guys doesn't make Colin's value any better. If they're **** at the value, so is Colin.

To me though, the Vandermeer contract is the most repulsive of all. I wouldn't even pay that guy a mil, let alone close to 2.5.

I think in the long run Orpik will be overall better and more effective than Colin White will.

But just because idiot teams paid that for those guys doesn't make Colin's value any better. If they're **** at the value, so is Colin.

To me though, the Vandermeer contract is the most repulsive of all. I wouldn't even pay that guy a mil, let alone close to 2.5.

Lol yup and i actually thought we would make a run at him if we didnt resign Salvador because of his connection with Sutter back at Red Deer. Nothing can equate to the Finger contract though im suprised he didnt get a NTC with that deal:sarcasm:

I think in the long run Orpik will be overall better and more effective than Colin White will.

But just because idiot teams paid that for those guys doesn't make Colin's value any better. If they're **** at the value, so is Colin.

To me though, the Vandermeer contract is the most repulsive of all. I wouldn't even pay that guy a mil, let alone close to 2.5.

Orpik might improve since he's still young, though I doubt it. He's never been a good positional defender and people are going nuts over some inspired playoff play.

Not true. Once again, a players contract is judged by its relation to the contracts of other players. White is better than all the players listed above, certainly Commodore, Finger, and Sarich. However these players hit UFA and teams paid more for them. Once again, I repeat, if we traded White and were forced to dip into UFA to replace him, we would not be getting equal value.

It's not a case of idiocy. Why do people keep tagging 05-06 salary standards to the present. The cap is $56.7M, and a player making $3M accounts for 5% of the teams payroll. That is about right for a #5 defenseman, a player like Commodore or Finger.

Orpik might improve since he's still young, though I doubt it. He's never been a good positional defender and people are going nuts over some inspired playoff play.

Not true. Once again, a players contract is judged by its relation to the contracts of other players. White is better than all the players listed above, certainly Commodore, Finger, and Sarich. However these players hit UFA and teams paid more for them. Once again, I repeat, if we traded White and were forced to dip into UFA to replace him, we would not be getting equal value.

It's not a case of idiocy. Why do people keep tagging 05-06 salary standards to the present. The cap is $56.7M, and a player making $3M accounts for 5% of the teams payroll. That is about right for a #5 defenseman, a player like Commodore or Finger.

I understand how Orpik seems like hype, but honestly it wasn't just "inspired" play to me. Personally I think we watched a young player grow into a better player BECAUSE of the playoffs. I mean it's clearly subjective, as is almost anything, but while he might not have been great, he was great at his role.

What's the quote? "The whole is better than the sum of all its parts." ? I think that's it.

I mean Pittsburgh didn't get to the cup by being group of individuals, I don't think you can look at them and say anyone really carried the team. Yeah guys like Hossa and Crosby stuck out, but it was the entire team.

So no, Orpik might not have been sound positionally, but he did a job successfully, he hit, he played like a man possessed in his own zone, fought for pucks and made it hard to be there and to a large degree it worked. Hal Gil is practically a ****ing pylon out there and pretty much since they picked him up I couldn't help but shake my head and say it was a terrible move.

But, come the SCF, Hal Gil had a job and it might not have won them the cup, but he rendered Holmstrom almost entirely ineffective (once the issue arose) and he put the hurt on him. He eliminated a factor of the Wings game, and effectively so. Now I wouldn't go putting him on a pedestal for it, but he became a part of the apparatus and it worked.

The 1995 cup team is a relatively good example...some vets, some youth, some great players, but generally speaking that was the epitome of a meat and potatoes team vs. expensive dining. Detroit was like a super-team and we straight up **** them out whole.

Now in terms of Colin, I feel like on the ice, he plays like an individual on a team, more than a part of the apparatus. I feel like in the past it was a large reason why he was so prone to penalties and making stupid decisions and I just feel like at this point, with that injury, something needs to be done. Yes he came back strong for a week or two and many sung his praises (myself included) but he regressed right back to where he was as the season wore on and his start seemed like nothing more than fresh legs and adrenaline.

I understand the concept of the market...but paying Vandermeer that or Jeff Finger who should practically still be making rookie contract money, you're an idiot. Yes in a salary cap era it may balance out, but pragmatically speaking....yes you need a competitive price, but who the **** was going to pay Jeff Finger even 3 million dollars? Were his services REALLY that in-demand? ****, I didn't even know he was on the market until I saw he was signed.

Maybe I'm just conservative like Lou is...but unlike teams like NY, I'm not betting on the cap repeatedly rising like it has. It's going to have to plateau at some point, especially when you look at the shape of the overall economy.

ps- sorry, long-winded ;)

Everyone's contracts look like a bargain...2.9M for Salvador LOL.

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you exemplify Colin White's physical play by showing him "knocking over" one of the leagues biggest diver? :dunno:

you exemplify Colin White's physical play by showing him "knocking over" one of the leagues biggest diver? :dunno:

If you notice, he is putting his stick on him to keep him from getting back up...I edited it and put the pic of him and Forsberg to really show his underrated body-checking abilities.

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Hes a tough guy that gets under the skin of opponents...Holik is too. We will be the big bad bullies of the NHL next year.

Colin was the only defenseman Marty trusted last season (aswell as Martin, but for different reasons), he was the only guy who would consistantly keep the net clear.

When he wasnt on the ice, that when we had problems. With the addition of Salvador and possibly Corrente, Marty should be better protected.

Colin was the only defenseman Marty trusted last season (aswell as Martin, but for different reasons), he was the only guy who would consistantly keep the net clear.

When he wasnt on the ice, that when we had problems. With the addition of Salvador and possibly Corrente, Marty should be better protected.

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but White did bump into Marty and caused that goal from Jagr. I think with 1 eye he's not a top pairing D man anymore. I would probably keep him as a reserve.

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but White did bump into Marty and caused that goal from Jagr. I think with 1 one he's not a top pairing D man anymore. I would probably keep him as a reserve.

:laugh:

Good point.

EDIT: Woah, $3mill for a 7th dman? Who do you play his spot, Brookbank??

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but White did bump into Marty and caused that goal from Jagr. I think with 1 eye he's not a top pairing D man anymore. I would probably keep him as a reserve.

Not to mention that 2 on 1 goal that he created in game 3 by stepping up and missing.
I never understood the White hate - he has always been a pretty solid dman and stand up for his teammates kind of guy. I think the problem was everyone expected him to take over the shut down dman role from stevens and be as good as Scott and let's just face it that's not going to happen. I also think white's physical play dropped off as the year progressed last season and its such a big part of his game it hurt him. The kind of guy white is, I wouldn't be surprised if his physcial play dropped because with the eye problem he can't fight anymore and he probably felt like since he couldn't back his play up with his fists he unconciously let his physical play slide.

:laugh:

Good point.

EDIT: Woah, $3mill for a 7th dman? Who do you play his spot, Brookbank??

Martin-Oduya
Salvador/White-Mottau
Brookbank-Greeene.

White is fine most of the time but for those nights where he has a problem its good to know whe have 8 D-men on our team still.


Not to mention that 2 on 1 goal that he created in game 3 by stepping up and missing.
I never understood the White hate - he has always been a pretty solid dman and stand up for his teammates kind of guy. I think the problem was everyone expected him to take over the shut down dman role from stevens and be as good as Scott and let's just face it that's not going to happen. I also think white's physical play dropped off as the year progressed last season and its such a big part of his game it hurt him. The kind of guy white is, I wouldn't be surprised if his physcial play dropped because with the eye problem he can't fight anymore and he probably felt like since he couldn't back his play up with his fists he unconciously let his physical play slide.

exactly. We may not have #1 d-men but we do have a bunch of #3-4s on the team. They can defend by commitee and get the job done.

Martin-Oduya
Salvador/White-Mottau
Brookbank-Greeene.

White is fine most of the time but for those nights where he has a problem its good to know whe have 8 D-men on our team still.

I can guarantee you that Lou will trade for another top 4 dman before the season starts.

Brookbank, Greene and possibly Mottau are Lowell fodder. This is how we will start the season...

Oduya - Martin
Salvador - X
White - Corrente

I can guarantee you that Lou will trade for another top 4 dman before the season starts.

Brookbank, Greene and possibly Mottau are Lowell fodder. This is how we will start the season...

Oduya - Martin
Salvador - X
White - Corrente

I'm betting that you are wrong. Greene was one of the names mentioned by Lou personally when he mentioned our Defense in an interview. He didn't mention Brookbank, Vishnevsky or Mottau. Greene is probably still high on his list because remember, he was on the bench for the playoffs in 2007 he saw what Greene could do.

I can guarantee you that Lou will trade for another top 4 dman before the season starts.

Brookbank, Greene and possibly Mottau are Lowell fodder. This is how we will start the season...

Oduya - Martin
Salvador - X
White - Corrente

You're probably right because Lou talks really highly about Corrente so he probably wants room for him on this years team.

You're probably right because Lou talks really highly about Corrente so he probably wants room for him on this years team.

I heard him mention Corrente and Ekford too. I think he's waiting for training camp to see which guys step up.

I'm betting that you are wrong. Greene was one of the names mentioned by Lou personally when he mentioned our Defense in an interview. He didn't mention Brookbank, Vishnevsky or Mottau. Greene is probably still high on his list because remember, he was on the bench for the playoffs in 2007 he saw what Greene could do.

Unfortunately, Brent is the coach and he does'nt (or at least it seems) like Andy's game.

But hey, maybe he does finally turn his game around next season. It would only benefit us if he does. I'm just not sold on that happening.

You're probably right because Lou talks really highly about Corrente so he probably wants room for him on this years team.

Hopefully he's a younger Bieksa. He has some puck skills too.

Hopefully he develops a passion for hating Ranger scum.

Unfortunately, Brent is the coach and he does'nt (or at least it seems) like Andy's game.

But hey, maybe he does finally turn his game around next season. It would only benefit us if he does. I'm just not sold on that happening.

Well if theres anything I would criticize about our coach is that he's a little shortsighted. He wants to play a puck possession type game but playing the body isn't really good for puck possession. A guy like Andy who can poke check and stick handle that puck and pass it accurately is very useful for puck possession. I'm not saying that playing the body is bad in some situations but when you can effortlessly get the puck out of the zone theres no need to play the body. It saves wear and tear on our D-men.

Now I'm not a coach or even a hockey player, just a stupid fan. So I can be entirely wrong about this.

Well if theres anything I would criticize about our coach is that he's a little shortsighted. He wants to play a puck possession type game but playing the body isn't really good for puck possession. A guy like Andy who can poke check and stick handle that puck and pass it accurately is very useful for puck possession. I'm not saying that playing the body is bad in some situations but when you can effortlessly get the puck out of the zone theres no need to play the body. It saves wear and tear on our D-men.

Now I'm not a coach or even a hockey player, just a stupid fan. So I can be entirely wrong about this.

You're correct mostly if you consider there are 2 types of physical players basically. Those who simply hit to hit/hurt (Bangers) like say our former friend Cam, and then there's those who hit to separate the man from the puck and take control (Muckers/Grinders) like Zubrus for example. He has decent hands and can maintain control of the puck after laying the hit.

On defense the difference is slightly less noticeable between the 2; but I would venture to say Vishnevski is a Banger, whereas White is more of a Mucker as he tends to stay on his feet and play the puck while the other guy is picking himself up off the ice. Greene, Martin, Oduya are more of the finesse defense and bump to disrupt the puck carrier more than knock them down.

Sutter is a proponent of a fast forechecking offense that pressures the play and forces turnovers by either knocking them off the puck or more often by forcing a bad pass into a lane where the 2nd forechecker is setup. Time and space are the defenseman's best friend and his system takes that away by constantly forcing pressure on the puck carrier and his first passing option.

hope that helped.

I think most people are mad about the length of the deal. 6 yrs. is an awful lot for a guy now with 1 eye. When healthy id still take him over those guy mentioned at the top.

He was signed before the eye injury. He's still a steal.

Martin-Oduya
Salvador/White-Mottau
Brookbank-Greeene.

White is fine most of the time but for those nights where he has a problem its good to know whe have 8 D-men on our team still.




exactly. We may not have #1 d-men but we do have a bunch of #3-4s on the team. They can defend by commitee and get the job done.

At this point IM still hoping for a trade, brookbank mottau willl be in Lowell and Oduya would make my squad and be packaged with Gio, a firstand possivbily Zajac depends onthe D man. Greene given a fair shot not slotted ufairly as number 2 dman should be on the squad and Vish is a perfect 7 as his style balances out our D better/I would still hope to sign Jason Smith(older as he is the warrior in him is second to none and leadership of a dano and stevens isnt something weve had in a long time

This point trade-WhiteJay-Bo or Boyle
martin-Sal
Greene-Smith
Vish
*thats a graet line-up

Smith/Vish Greene if he needs a break switch them up much MUCH more dynamic set of corps, as somonewho works for the NHL and slosely with players this lineup has everything. What to do with oduya trade hijm he still can be a valuable asset i think weve seen his best hes not gonnaget btter, im sorry theres no way. Greene on the other hand will rock, he will be that guy we all hoped hed be.

And yes for all those said we got ripped on the dal signing are just .....hope there not finger fans.

Our defense isnt going to change that much at all FnI.

Lou will trade for a puck mover. He's not going to destroy chemistry like certain other teams in the metro area.

Martin-Oduya
Salvador/White-Mottau
Brookbank-Greeene.

White is fine most of the time but for those nights where he has a problem its good to know whe have 8 D-men on our team still.




exactly. We may not have #1 d-men but we do have a bunch of #3-4s on the team. They can defend by commitee and get the job done.

I'm sorry, Sheldon freaking Brookbank is not a #3-4 dman. He was waived by freaking Columbus. Seems like a great team player, but he doesn't have NHL skills.

Paul Martin is a legit top pairing dman.
White and Salvador are legit, but unspectacular, top 4s.
Oduya needs to prove he can handle himself without being covered by Martin.
The rest of the guys are bottom pairing, borderline dmen at best.

Unfortunately, Brent is the coach and he does'nt (or at least it seems) like Andy's game.

But hey, maybe he does finally turn his game around next season. It would only benefit us if he does. I'm just not sold on that happening.

Brent had Andy in for the start of the playoffs, despite his terrible play on the ice. Brent gave Andy every chance in the world to succeed, and Greene couldn't do it. I hope he does turn his game around, but it had nothing to do with Brent not giving him chances.

At this point IM still hoping for a trade, brookbank mottau willl be in Lowell and Oduya would make my squad and be packaged with Gio, a firstand possivbily Zajac depends onthe D man. Greene given a fair shot not slotted ufairly as number 2 dman should be on the squad and Vish is a perfect 7 as his style balances out our D better/I would still hope to sign Jason Smith(older as he is the warrior in him is second to none and leadership of a dano and stevens isnt something weve had in a long time

This point trade-WhiteJay-Bo or Boyle
martin-Sal
Greene-Smith
Vish
*thats a graet line-up

Smith/Vish Greene if he needs a break switch them up much MUCH more dynamic set of corps, as somonewho works for the NHL and slosely with players this lineup has everything. What to do with oduya trade hijm he still can be a valuable asset i think weve seen his best hes not gonnaget btter, im sorry theres no way. Greene on the other hand will rock, he will be that guy we all hoped hed be.

And yes for all those said we got ripped on the dal signing are just .....hope there not finger fans.

Smith has good leadership, but on the ice he's just a worse version of White or Salvador.

I'm sorry, Sheldon freaking Brookbank is not a #3-4 dman. He was waived by freaking Columbus. Seems like a great team player, but he doesn't have NHL skills.

Paul Martin is a legit top pairing dman.
White and Salvador are legit, but unspectacular, top 4s.
Oduya needs to prove he can handle himself without being covered by Martin.
The rest of the guys are bottom pairing, borderline dmen at best.

I never said Brookbank was top 4... I said we had a bunch of 3-4s I never mentioned him as being one of them.

I agree that alot of the other guys are bottom pairing but we do have some with potential.

Brent had Andy in for the start of the playoffs, despite his terrible play on the ice. Brent gave Andy every chance in the world to succeed, and Greene couldn't do it. I hope he does turn his game around, but it had nothing to do with Brent not giving him chances.

...and Andy did great in the playoffs. It was not his fault we lost those games. It was more the problem with our ability to score.

Andy made some nice plays in the playoffs that saved some goals. Yes he did falter in one of the games but we had pretty much lost that game anyway.

Oduya made some bad plays in the playoffs and so did even Martin. Or did you guys chose to forget that as well?

...and Andy did great in the playoffs. It was not his fault we lost those games. It was more the problem with our ability to score.

Andy made some nice plays in the playoffs that saved some goals. Yes he did falter in one of the games but we had pretty much lost that game anyway.

Oduya made some bad plays in the playoffs and so did even Martin. Or did you guys chose to forget that as well?

The whole team (save Elias, Zubrus, Madden and Martin) sucked balls against those damn Rangers.

And Andy most certainly did not do great, he was scratched for Vitaly Vishnevski.

The whole team (save Elias, Zubrus, Madden and Martin) sucked balls against those damn Rangers.

And Andy most certainly did not do great, he was scratched for Vitaly Vishnevski.

He was scratch for VV because we were playing in MSG. The inability to match lines made Andy more of a liability because they used their big forwards to force him off the puck. VV was a better choice. VV did suprisingly well in the playoffs that Sutter kept him in. But it was still no enough to win against the Rangers.

I never said Brookbank was top 4... I said we had a bunch of 3-4s I never mentioned him as being one of them.

I agree that alot of the other guys are bottom pairing but we do have some with potential.

Fair enough, but unless I read it wrong, you had him in over White, which is ridiculous.

Fair enough, but unless I read it wrong, you had him in over White, which is ridiculous.

where? I never had him over white. Look at my pairings, he is still above Brookbank-Greene.

Salvador is better and he makes less money than White. Lou was on drugs when he gave White a NTC. He obviously saw more potential in White then what White became.

Not to clutter the boards with another White thread, but it needed to be said:

Jeff Finger: $3.5M per over 4 years

Brooks Orpik: $3.75M per over 6 years

Mike Commodore: $3.5M per over 5 years

Jim Vandermeer: $2.33M per over 3 years

None of the above defensemen are better than White (I don't care what anyone says, Brooks "I don't know how to play good positional defense" Orpik is not better), but they will be earning more than him for the next several seasons. Jim Vandermeer is a glorified bottom-pairing defenseman who was awful for the majority of last year and he still got $2.33M/per.

White's deal is a bargain.

I can't believe how much Vandermeer got....He was an alright addition by the Flames at the deadline, but that is a lot of money for him....

When all is said and done I think our D will look like this when the season starts:

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Mottau

At the end of the year the Devils might make a move or two and promote Corrente (needs little seasoning in Lowell), just like they did with White back in 2000 and that way Mottau becomes the 7:th guy.

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Corrente

Extra: Mottau, Brookbank

Thoughts?

When all is said and done I think our D will look like this when the season starts:

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Mottau

At the end of the year the Devils might make a move or two and promote Corrente (needs little seasoning in Lowell), just like they did with White back in 2000 and that way Mottau becomes the 7:th guy.

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Corrente

Extra: Mottau, Brookbank

Thoughts?

I've seen this before. Must've been a dream or a dream or somethings.

When all is said and done I think our D will look like this when the season starts:

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Mottau

At the end of the year the Devils might make a move or two and promote Corrente (needs little seasoning in Lowell), just like they did with White back in 2000 and that way Mottau becomes the 7:th guy.

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Corrente

Extra: Mottau, Brookbank

Thoughts?

I hope you are right Swede, Bieksa would me a splendid pick-up :)

When all is said and done I think our D will look like this when the season starts:

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Mottau

At the end of the year the Devils might make a move or two and promote Corrente (needs little seasoning in Lowell), just like they did with White back in 2000 and that way Mottau becomes the 7:th guy.

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Bieksa
White-Corrente

Extra: Mottau, Brookbank

Thoughts?

I think this is very plausible.

Bieksa is more of an offensive guy who can hit than a shutdown guy, right? Maybe pair him with Oduya and Salvador with Martin, so you have an offensive pair and a shut down pair. Depends on what Sutter wants.