While the frenzy is going on I figured it would be helpful to have everything straight:

ACTIVE ROSTER
PLAYER|STATUS|SALARY|SIGNED THROUGH|NOTES
Forwards|
Patrik Elias|Signed|6,000,000|2012-2013|NMC|
Brian Rolston|Signed|5,062,500|2011-2012|
Brian Gionta|Signed|4,000,000|2008-2009|
Dainius Zubrus|Signed|3,400,000|2012-2013|
Zach Parise|Signed|3,125,000|2010-2011|
John Madden|Signed|2,938,540|2008-2009|
Jamie Langenbrunner|Signed|2,800,000|2010-2011|Limited NTC|
Jay Pandolfo|Signed|2,500,000|2010-2011|NTC|
Bobby Holik|Signed|2,500,000|2008-2009|
Travis Zajac|Signed|984,200|2008-2009|
David Clarkson|Signed|837,500|2009-2010|
Mike Rupp|Signed|500,000|2008-2009|
|
Defensemen|
Paul Martin|Signed|3,833,333|2009-2010|
Colin White|Signed|3,000,000|2011-2012|NTC|
Bryce Salvador|Signed|2,900,000|2011-2012|
Mike Mottau|Signed|762,500|2009-2010|
Andy Greene|Signed|600,000|2008-2009|
Johnny Oduya|Signed|600,000|2008-2009|
Sheldon Brookbank|Signed|500,000|2009-2010|
|
Goaltenders|
Martin Brodeur|Signed| 5,200,000|2011-2012|NTC|
Kevin Weekes|Signed| 687,500|2008-2009|



POSSIBLE CALL-UPS
PLAYER|STATUS|SALARY|SIGNED THROUGH|NOTES
Tyler Eckford|Signed|984,000|2009-2010|2004 7th Round Pick|
Matt Halischuk|Signed|875,000|2010-2011|2007 4th Round Pick|
Anssi Salmela|Signed|875,000|2008-2009|Undrafted|
Matt Corrente|Signed|821,667|2009-2010|2006 1st Round Pick|
Nicklas Bergfors|Signed|818,333|2009-2010|2005 1st Round Pick|
Rod Pelley|Signed|550,000|2009-2010|Undrafted|
Patrick Davis|Signed|509,167|2008-2009|2005 4th Round Pick|
Scott Clemmensen|Signed|500,000|2008-2009|UFA Signing|
Jay Leach|Signed|487,500|2009-2010|UFA Signing|
Petr Vrana|Signed|475,000|2008-2009|2003 2nd Round Pick|
Barry Tallackson|Signed|475,000|2009-2010|2002 2nd Round Pick|
Pierre-Luc Letorneau-Leblond|Signed|471,667|2008-2009|2004 7th Round Pick|



13 forwards, 8 defensemen, 2 goaltenders
Starting Total: $54,556,073
Starting Cap Space: $2,143,927

Red means on injured reserve.
Green means has been recalled to New Jersey.

For updated salary and cap status information, use Chip McCleary (Irish Blues) at Hockeybuzz Cap Central (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NJ).

thought we had 12 mill left?

woooooooo that's like 3 grinders at this rate. What a treat! Oh what a treat this is!

I hope Vish gets traded soon.

Expect Brookbank to be in the minors. I'm holding out hopes that Vish is traded or waived.

thought we had 12 mill left?

you can go over 10% until the season starts (or at least for a little while).

10% of 10.5 million is.... 1.05 million. Add them together..... its about $11.5 million


Edit : While my reasoning is correct, i'm pretty sure my numbers are horrible. We're allowed to go over a little, that's all i know

you can go over 10% until the season starts (or at least for a little while).

10% of 10.5 million is.... 1.05 million. Add them together..... its about $11.5 million


Edit : While my reasoning is correct, i'm pretty sure my numbers are horrible. We're allowed to go over a little, that's all i know

got this from another thread.
Gulitti just posted that after today's signings, the Devils have $12.7 Million in cap space remaining.

Clarkson is signed at 837.5k. Lots of flexibility, and maybe Vish can be moved without giving a pick to get rid of him.

got this from another thread.
Gulitti just posted that after today's signings, the Devils have $12.7 Million in cap space remaining.
Add up the numbers for yourself, but with the players I have listed, that's where things stand.

According to the numbers I have, the Devils' cap expenditures now stand at $43,968,533 for 20 players under contract, including Pandolfo (2.5), Salvador (2.9) and Clarkson (837,500). That leaves $12,731,467 in cap space.
That's what TG posted in his comments, when I just added it up (using your numbers) I got a different number from both of you, $44,468,573. I'll double check that.

That's what TG posted in his comments, when I just added it up (using your numbers) I got a different number from both of you, $44,468,573. I'll double check that.
I have it all in excel...I don't know how it would add up wrong.

edit: It looks like you're missing Pandolfo's salary of 2.5M

I have it all in excel...I don't know how it would add up wrong.

edit: It looks like you're missing Pandolfo's salary of 2.5M
Yup, you're correct.

I'm not sure where TG went wrong, he's off by 3 million and 40 bucks.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3728/failboatlg0.jpg

Yes for some reason my pessimism is at an all-time high.

Yup, you're correct.

I'm not sure where TG went wrong, he's off by 3 million and 40 bucks.
Maybe he forgot to add Madden, his cap hit ends in 40 dollars. :dunno:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3728/failboatlg0.jpg

Yes for some reason my pessimism is at an all-time high.

yeah were not getting anyone else. at least not today.

excel user tip:

alt+f4 to recalculate your figures. :D

yeah were not getting anyone else. at least not today.

Where do you buy crystal balls? I've been looking all over for them.

Where do you buy crystal balls? I've been looking all over for them.

Hogwartz

excel user tip:

alt+f4 to recalculate your figures. :D

Wow! Photoshop/Illustrator and Excel.... what can't you do?????
I try and stay far away from Excel...

excel user tip:

alt+f4 to recalculate your figures. :D

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Hogwartz

they were on sale so i got a few.

I hope Vish gets traded soon.

God, I know. His 1.8 million sticks out like a sore thumb. Trade or waive him, please.

I think we need to package 2-3 defensemen along with prospects or picks to get a top 4 defender.

TG's last number is at $9,731,467 available. I think you're perfect except for a slight addition error...Not bad to only be off by $40!

Seriously, $9.7 is more than enough to let us keep Brylin. Give him $1.7/yr for 3 yrs, clear out our D, and get a scorer.

Stick a fork in it, I'm pretty sure we're done.

TG's last number is at $9,731,467 available. I think you're perfect except for a slight addition error...Not bad to only be off by $40!

Seriously, $9.7 is more than enough to let us keep Brylin. Give him $1.7/yr for 3 yrs, clear out our D, and get a scorer.

Stick a fork in it, I'm pretty sure we're done.
Give Brylin $1.7M a year for 3 years?

What?

minus

vish
mottau
brookbank

plus

$3,062,500

equals

7,793,927

for

11 forwards

5 defenceman

minus

vish
mottau
brookbank

plus

$3,062,500
But we probably need to add Bergfors and Vrana/Pelley's contracts, which takes off about $1.5M of that.

Damn, crash, you're fast on the update.

We really need to find a way to dump Vish's contract.

Damn, crash, you're fast on the update.

We really need to find a way to dump Vish's contract.
When in doubt there's always waivers.

I'd try to pawn him off to Washington.

Do you mean to have Rolson listed with a NTC? Or did you just copy/paste from Elias and forget to delete it?

But we probably need to add Bergfors and Vrana/Pelley's contracts, which takes off about $1.5M of that.

yea i figure this is probably where we stand

7,793,927 for 11 forwards 5 defenceman

maybe a sign a guy like orpik?? if he asks for 4.5 thats

3,293,927

and then that 1.5 for those guys you mentioned above thats

1,793,927

so that would take care of 12 forwards and 6 defenceman




is that 1.5 for all 3 of those players? or just 2 of them

if its 2 then we have 1,793,927 for 13 forwards, 6 defenceman and 2 goalies.

not bad

Do you mean to have Rolson listed with a NTC? Or did you just copy/paste from Elias and forget to delete it?
Oops, you got it haha.

yea i figure this is probably where we stand

7,793,927 for 11 forwards 5 defenceman

maybe a sign a guy like orpik?? if he asks for 4.5 thats

3,293,927

and then that 1.5 for those guys you mentioned above thats

1,793,927

so that would take care of 12 forwards and 6 defenceman




is that 1.5 for all 3 of those players? or just 2 of them

if its 2 then we have 1,793,927 for 13 forwards, 6 defenceman and 2 goalies.

not bad
You can't run a roster with 20 players, you need 22 at the very minimum.

You can't run a roster with 20 players, you need 22 at the very minimum.

o, well add holik to it then

If somebody wants to put this in a table to make it look nice, go for it. Here's where we are right now...

The first post? :dunno:

I don't have the positions in there but with guys like Elias/Rolston/Zubrus flipping around and with us being unsure of where Holik or any rookie forwards will fall, I think that could be premature.

what the heck is going on in Jersey?

will have to wait for next year now.. holik omg

will have to wait for next year now.. holik omg

Wait next year for what??

You might not like Holik but the man was an integral part of two SC teams here and when the day is done all that matters to the man is winning. Period.

for us to have any hope at getting a decent ufa.. and by the way holik is more sloppy then our captain

for us to have any hope at getting a decent ufa

Rolston has had three 30 goal seasons in a row and does a little of everything especially on defense, I want to hear your definition of a "decent ufa" is.

for us to have any hope at getting a decent ufa.. and by the way holik is more sloppy then our captain
:biglaugh:

Yes, because Rolston is chopped liver. Thank you for making my day.

keep living in the past. will see how he does this year

keep living in the past. will see how he does this year
He is coming off the three best seasons of his career, you know.

yes but hes also 35 and is signed to a 4 year deal for 5mil


do you guys think that will make some sort of trade at all before the season starts

:biglaugh:

Yes, because Rolston is chopped liver. Thank you for making my day.
@ 39 he might be?

Man, people are gulping down the Kool-Aid today. Holik puts a real monkey wrench in any chances for the Devils to upgrade their greatest need--a puck mover who can play in the top 4. Instead, we upgrade our 4th line center and pay 2mil for a guy who won't upgrade special teams and hasn't played with heart this decade. Brilliant.

do you guys think that will make some sort of trade at all before the season starts
Almost certainly.

do you guys think that will make some sort of trade at all before the season starts

yea, definitley probably for a dman and probably a young center or gio

Good enough. I jumped to the 2nd page. Just seemed to be a lot of confusion elsewhere on the cap figures. :speechles
What's posted in the OP of this thread is absolultely correct. The difference between G's figures and the ones here are Michael Rupp's $500K [he's not counting it, you guys are] and $40 on John Madden [if Madden's actual cap number is $2,938,500 then I've been off by $40 for 3 years now ... which is not that big of a deal at the moment].


I'm just shocked Lou gave Rolston 4 years, knowing the last 3 are going to count no matter what. He must feel that Brian is going to be good for all of it [or else figure that in a couple years he can deal Rolston to someone that wants to hit the floor as cheaply as possible, and does it with the help of Rolston retiring].

What's posted in the OP of this thread is absolultely correct.

By elsewhere, I meant other threads below this one.

Lou should get Shanny for 1-year, trade Vish for a pick, even a 7th rounder, then go after a puck moving defenseman. hainsey?

Lou should get Shanny for 1-year, trade Vish for a pick, even a 7th rounder, then go after a puck moving defenseman. hainsey?

Sure we can free up some cap space, but Vish for a 7th rounder is pretty stupid.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/devils/Devils_choose_Pandolfo_over_Brylin.html
Pandolfo, a 33-year-old left wing, received a three-year contract at $2.5 million per season. Pandolfo’s deal also includes a full no-trade clause.
I added that to the table.

While the frenzy is going on I figured it would be helpful to have everything straight:

Paul Martin|Signed|3,833,333|2007-2008|


I'm pretty sure Martin should read 2009-2010

Sure we can free up some cap space, but Vish for a 7th rounder is pretty stupid.

You're right, who would want to give up a 7th rounder for Vish?

Expect Brookbank to be in the minors. I'm holding out hopes that Vish is traded or waived.

so will MM and oduya IMO....Vishstays he brings something that oduya doesnt as a 7th we can use him and greene just not as 4th and 2nd guys respectfully. give oduya the number one spot in Lowell and i garentee his flaws will be gone by next year or a third od the way through this season id rather corrente. Vish for 7th!!!

so will MM and oduya IMO....Vishstays he brings something that oduya doesnt as a 7th we can use him and greene just not as 4th and 2nd guys respectfully. give oduya the number one spot in Lowell and i garentee his flaws will be gone by next year or a third od the way through this season id rather corrente. Vish for 7th!!!
Why on earth would you send Oduya down to the minors????

The guy was what, +35 in the 2nd half? Not only will he be on the Devils, he'll play big minutes if he can play anywhere close to the way he played after January.

so will MM and oduya IMO....Vishstays he brings something that oduya doesnt as a 7th we can use him and greene just not as 4th and 2nd guys respectfully. give oduya the number one spot in Lowell and i garentee his flaws will be gone by next year or a third od the way through this season id rather corrente. Vish for 7th!!!

Racism? J/K, :laugh:. But Oduya led our team in plus/minus with a +/- of 27, and averaged about 20 minutes of ice time...

I think that Lou could fleece someone with a Vish trade, especially the way things have been going. We don't need him anyway, now that Sal is signed.

I think that Lou could fleece someone with a Vish trade, especially the way things have been going. We don't need him anyway, now that Sal is signed.
He doesn't even have to fleece someone, IMO, I'm not looking for a big return on him. Getting his 1.8M off the cap (and not having to pay him that money in the minors) is the return.

He doesn't even have to fleece someone, IMO, I'm not looking for a big return on him. Getting his 1.8M off the cap (and not having to pay him that money in the minors) is the return.

Vish's $1.8 seems like a bargain after yesterday.

He doesn't even have to fleece someone, IMO, I'm not looking for a big return on him. Getting his 1.8M off the cap (and not having to pay him that money in the minors) is the return.
Well, sure, that's the main thing, but if Lou can get a good return, then why not?

Maybe we are actually going to play Vish, afterall he might look pretty good playing 3rd pairing minutes.

LOL @ Oduya in the minors. That get's a real ROFLCOPTER.

Maybe we are actually going to play Vish, afterall he might look pretty good playing 3rd pairing minutes.

LOL @ Oduya in the minors. That get's a real ROFLCOPTER.

Vish is actually pretty useful on D. If you watch the highlights of the Devils' best hits from 08, you'll noticed Vish in 80% of them. He definitely is good for something.

Vish is actually pretty useful on D. If you watch the highlights of the Devils' best hits from 08, you'll noticed Vish in 80% of them. He definitely is good for something.

With the signing of Holik, I think we got someone who can hit. I really don't think we'll be needing Vish anymore. Plus Salvador hits too. When Vish hits, he gets way out of position which causes a huge problem for his partner. That creates a big hole in our defense which usually leads to goals scored against us.

yeah that's thing, I love the way Vish hits but man when he misses he gets himself so out of position. And he really loses battles down low along the boards way to much.

Vish is actually pretty useful on D. If you watch the highlights of the Devils' best hits from 08, you'll noticed Vish in 80% of them. He definitely is good for something.

What they don't show is the stuff that really matters. Like defensive positioning.

Tyler Eckford is a puck moving defensemen

Tyler Eckford is a puck moving defensemen

so is salmela. maybe lou wants to get the young guys in. with Marty, their mistakes wont be as costly and they will learn from them rather than lose confidence.

i think this could work out for the best.

so is salmela. maybe lou wants to get the young guys in. with Marty, their mistakes wont be as costly and they will learn from them rather than lose confidence.

i think this could work out for the best.

Thats what I've been saying. Whats the cost of us looking at these kids? Nothing. They can either play with the big club or get packed up back to lowell. I sure hope at least one rookie makes it into the lineup.

Thats what I've been saying. Whats the cost of us looking at these kids? Nothing. They can either play with the big club or get packed up back to lowell. I sure hope at least one rookie makes it into the lineup.

im sure atleast one will. probably bergfors, maybe corrente

Vishnevski was on the Roster of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl during a Pre-Season Game and there seem to be Rumors that he could be signed by them.

Vishnevski was on the Roster of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl during a Pre-Season Game and there seem to be Rumors that he could be signed by them.

Fingers crossed!

Vishnevski was on the Roster of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl during a Pre-Season Game and there seem to be Rumors that he could be signed by them.

Please please! :)

But how would that work when he's under contract with the Devils?

Please please! :)

But how would that work when he's under contract with the Devils?

Just ask Alexander Radulov.

Any news on the Vish situation. If he chooses to defect back to Russia, I wont shed a tear.

I will miss his stand up comedy routine down the Lou Lams Gentlemen's Club, though.

Any news on the Vish situation. If he chooses to defect back to Russia, I wont shed a tear.

I will miss his stand up comedy routine down the Lou Lams Gentlemen's Club, though.

I will shed tears of joy.

The Vish thing helps. Hopefully we can pick up someone solid for the back end now.

I have a feeling nobody *major* will be signed until the trade deadline. We have a solid Devils' lineup, one of the most solid we have seen in years. So barring any injuries, I don't think any major moves will be made for awhile.

I think maybe some in house signings will occur, like with Pelley. That's about it.

I have a feeling nobody *major* will be signed until the trade deadline. We have a solid Devils' lineup, one of the most solid we have seen in years. So barring any injuries, I don't think any major moves will be made for awhile.

I think maybe some in house signings will occur, like with Pelley. That's about it.

Yeah I can't see us making any moves. Schneider would be nice, and everyone here would need plastic surgery to remove the smiles from their faces if we got Bouwmeester for a reasonable price (hint: anything that doesn't involve Parise).

We have a solid Devils' lineup, one of the most solid we have seen in years.

That's everyone said last year...

We may be solid up front, but we're Charmin soft on D. And Corrente/Eckford/Salmela are not going to come up and be saviors this year. It just isn't happening. Those guys, with no NHL experience, can only succeed if their transition to the NHL is smoother. And in order for that to happen they need some minor league experience and/or seasoned vets on the big club that can carry most of the load, and take some pressure off of them.

That's everyone said last year...

We may be solid up front, but we're Charmin soft on D. And Corrente/Eckford/Salmela are not going to come up and be saviors this year. It just isn't happening. Those guys, with no NHL experience, can only succeed if their transition to the NHL is smoother. And in order for that to happen they need some minor league experience and/or seasoned vets on the big club that can carry most of the load, and take some pressure off of them.

I thought we were going to stink last year. I think we'll be better than I thought we would be last year, but will then probably end up doing worse.

Confusing enough? Sounds like one of those NHL Network Coach speeches.

That's everyone said last year...

We may be solid up front, but we're Charmin soft on D. And Corrente/Eckford/Salmela are not going to come up and be saviors this year. It just isn't happening. Those guys, with no NHL experience, can only succeed if their transition to the NHL is smoother. And in order for that to happen they need some minor league experience and/or seasoned vets on the big club that can carry most of the load, and take some pressure off of them.

We still have Frasier who has been in the AHL for a few years and ready to step in as well. He's more like Colin White, but if you need toughness, you got him.

We still have Frasier who has been in the AHL for a few years and ready to step in as well. He's more like Colin White, but if you need toughness, you got him.

We don't need anymore stay at home defenseman. We need a solid two-way d-man.

We don't need anymore stay at home defenseman. We need a solid two-way d-man.

Well this is why you hope guys like Oduya can step it up and Martin can finally hit that other level we're all hoping for.

Besides, we have extra cap space. If we're struggling come trade deadline, we can ship off one of our Ds and bring someone in to fill that void.

I know what you mean, you want to have a solid defense on paper. But on some levels, you have to put faith in your stock. We struggled on offense, yes? Well we fixed that. Additionally, the guys we got should indirectly help our defense (Being defensive minded... good at faceoffs, etc.).

Maybe our defense didn't over achieve by that much. Brookbank was considered the best Dman in the AHL, yea? Mottau was a Hobey Baker winner. They were steady last year, maybe they improve this year? Maybe they stink... but you can't necessarily go out and buy a new Dman without putting faith in those 4 guys.

With the young talent we finally have, I wouldn't be so hasty to just auction it off for a new guy.

how many player need to go against the cap, 22?

how many player need to go against the cap, 22?

I'm pretty sure the minimum number of roster players you must have is 20 and the maximum is 23.

Well this is why you hope guys like Oduya can step it up and Martin can finally hit that other level we're all hoping for.

Besides, we have extra cap space. If we're struggling come trade deadline, we can ship off one of our Ds and bring someone in to fill that void.

I know what you mean, you want to have a solid defense on paper. But on some levels, you have to put faith in your stock. We struggled on offense, yes? Well we fixed that. Additionally, the guys we got should indirectly help our defense (Being defensive minded... good at faceoffs, etc.).

Maybe our defense didn't over achieve by that much. Brookbank was considered the best Dman in the AHL, yea? Mottau was a Hobey Baker winner. They were steady last year, maybe they improve this year? Maybe they stink... but you can't necessarily go out and buy a new Dman without putting faith in those 4 guys.

With the young talent we finally have, I wouldn't be so hasty to just auction it off for a new guy.

1) If you honestly expect the pairing of Oduya and Martin to build considerably on their performance last year and hit the level we're hoping for, you're in for a big disappointment. At the absolute best, they will play as well as they did last year. However, I strongly believe that Paul Martin has the ability to elevate his game if he plays with a true top pairing defenseman.

2) Trading one of our defenseman is not an option. Do you think they rolled with 8 defenseman last year just for ***** and giggles? Lou desperately tried to unload our extra d-men at the deadline and no one was interested. And even if we did manage to trade one of them, we wouldn't get anything of value in return.

3)What can we fix? We need a top pairing, two way defenseman. What are we going to do? Teach Colin White how to skate faster and take slap shots from the point? With the exception of Paul Martin, all of our d-men are incredibly one dimensional. You can't change that at this point in their careers. They is what they is.

4)Mottau played well and was a surprise, I have no problem admitting that. But as founder/chairman/president of the Brookbank Bandwagon, even I must say that Brookbank absolutely sucked donkey balls last season. The most notable thing he did was injure Patty and give TG some company up in the press box. Other than that he was extremely slow and extremely useless.

5)The young talent we have on the back end isn't going to do anything this season. I'm a big fan of Corrente and Eckford, but I'm not going to set myself up for a disappointment. Eckford is still very raw. He's only been a defenseman for 3 years, and he's not in any position to play in the NHL. He was a project pick and he's been a good one so far, but he can't be rushed.

Corrente only played 21 games last season, and missed 85 games in 4 years of Juniors. He's just not going to come up and rock the NHL's socks off. He's not going to fill the voids on the back end that we need filled either. And I'm tired of hearing that he'll play on the third pairing. Our third pairing is so full that it spilled over into the second pairing. I hope the Fire Marshall doesn't swing by because it has greatly surpassed it's maximum occupancy level. If he's not good enough for the top 4 out of camp, he should be sent to Lowell. Playing 5 minutes a night in the NHL will do nothing for his development.

Corrente only played 21 games last season, and missed 85 games in 4 years of Juniors. He's just not going to come up and rock the NHL's socks off. He's not going to fill the voids on the back end that we need filled either. And I'm tired of hearing that he'll play on the third pairing. Our third pairing is so full that it spilled over into the second pairing. I hope the Fire Marshall doesn't swing by because it has greatly surpassed it's maximum occupancy level. If he's not good enough for the top 4 out of camp, he should be sent to Lowell. Playing 5 minutes a night in the NHL will do nothing for his development.

Could not agree more. I'm sick of having 75 9th pairing guys, and having a rookie play with them is going to do nothing for the team and hurt his develop.

CORRECTION: Tallackson's cap number is $475,000. He's also on a 1-way contract.

Fedor Fedorov has a $500,000 cap number ... and he's also on a 1-way contract. That gives the Devils twenty-three (23) players on 1-way contracts.

CORRECTION: Tallackson's cap number is $475,000. He's also on a 1-way contract.

Fedor Fedorov has a $500,000 cap number ... and he's also on a 1-way contract. That gives the Devils twenty-three (23) players on 1-way contracts.
Tallackson is a 1-way? Hm. He'll be making $500,000 in Lowell.

Tallackson is a 1-way? Hm. He'll be making $500,000 in Lowell.

That's a waste of $500,000. Better off giving that money to the starrvin children, Pe'er.

I'm pretty sure the minimum number of roster players you must have is 20 and the maximum is 23.

im confused

what can we have only 6 d-men, 12 forwards and 2 goalies count against the cap? if that is true we have alot more cap room than the op shows

im confused

what can we have only 6 d-men, 12 forwards and 2 goalies count against the cap? if that is true we have alot more cap room than the op shows
Theoretically yes, we can have just 20 players count against the cap. It isn't wise, of course, but it is possible.

Right now it's my belief that we have 21 players who should effectively be counted "against the cap." That number will go up to 23 by season's start once we have a chance to see everyone in training camp, and I suspect at least one of those 21 will be replaced by a defensive prospect.

Edit: So with the following players against our cap...

Forwards (12): Rolston, Gionta, Parise, Zajac, Langenbrunner, Zubrus, Madden, Pandolfo, Elias, Holik, Clarkson, Rupp
Defensemen (7): Martin, White, Salvador, Oduya, Brookbank, Mottau, Greene
Goalies (2): Brodeur, Weekes

We have $3,968,927 worth of cap space with two forwards to be added and (I hope) one defenseman to be substituted.

Theoretically yes, we can have just 20 players count against the cap. It isn't wise, of course, but it is possible.

Right now it's my belief that we have 21 players who should effectively be counted "against the cap." That number will go up to 23 by season's start once we have a chance to see everyone in training camp, and I suspect at least one of those 21 will be replaced by a defensive prospect.

Edit: So with the following players against our cap...

Forwards (12): Rolston, Gionta, Parise, Zajac, Langenbrunner, Zubrus, Madden, Pandolfo, Elias, Holik, Clarkson, Rupp
Defensemen (7): Martin, White, Salvador, Oduya, Brookbank, Mottau, Greene
Goalies (2): Brodeur, Weekes

We have $3,968,927 worth of cap space with two forwards to be added and (I hope) one defenseman to be substituted.


thank you

i dont see the need to carry an extra d-man and forward around with us throughout the season, and i do hope that mattau doesnt play but corrente in his place

thank you

i dont see the need to carry an extra d-man and forward around with us throughout the season, and i do hope that mattau doesnt play but corrente in his place

Its nice to have the extra forward and d-man on the roster just in case of injury (I know we can call someone up from Lowell, but its nice to have a guy who has been practicing with the team for a while.) Its also good to keep mottau/brookbank/greene/oduya on their toes. The only thing worse than a mediocre defenseman is a complacent mediocre defenseman.

Tallackson is a 1-way? Hm. He'll be making $500,000 in Lowell.
His salary is also $475,000. I just thought it was interesting that he got a 1-way contract.

Plenty of money to get a great player at the trade deadline.

Plenty of money to get a great player at the trade deadline.
Yeah, definitely. Vrana's salary might be slightly higher but I think we can still add 6-7M in salary at the trade deadline.

Yeah, definitely. Vrana's salary might be slightly higher but I think we can still add 6-7M in salary at the trade deadline.

It will be nice to actually acquire players instead of being so hamstrung...what a nice change.

I was kind of hoping that Greene had stepped up and be that 65 point d-man we needed when he started to play really well. But then he goes and gets himself injured and that ruined that dream.

I do agree that we need someone better to play with Martin. Salvador seems great when he hits people, but it is like some teams have him figured out and can easily get around him to the front of the net.

With Martin we pretty much have a borderline #1-2, and then Oduya and Salvador a 3-4 pairing. I'm not sure where to put White because some nights he is really good and some nights he is really bad. Mottau the same way.

I really think if we get defensive defenseman thats better than Salvador to play with Martin our defense will be solid.

Apparently, the cap will be pretty similar next year. Keep in mind, the Rags already have $37M tied up in just 6 players, and they have about 4,592 RFAs. Could be interesting, especially if the cap drops a few million.

Bettman said the league’s salary cap will likely remain the same despite the economic downturn.

“We think for next year it’s going to be somewhere around where it is—up a little, a million or two, down a little a million or two,” he said. “It depends on some variables that we can’t control. I don’t expect it to be dramatically higher or dramatically lower. It’ll be somewhere in its current ballpark.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AgLO4baoHS8Vwdzi3I.inF97vLYF?slug=ap-nhlmeetings&prov=ap&type=lgns

lets get zherdev over here then!

Apparently, the cap will be pretty similar next year. Keep in mind, the Rags already have $37M tied up in just 6 players, and they have about 4,592 RFAs. Could be interesting, especially if the cap drops a few million.



http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AgLO4baoHS8Vwdzi3I.inF97vLYF?slug=ap-nhlmeetings&prov=ap&type=lgns

This is what I have been thinking and came here to post that. At most, the rags could offer dubinsky 2M and change. If Lou REALLY wanted to stick it to the Rags, get him to sign an offer sheet.

Here's my plan. Let Madden walk and take his 2.9 and some of the money we gave to Holik and throw that on an offer sheet to Dubinsky. Anything in the $2.6M - $3.9M
is only a 1st and 3rd round pick.

Elias Dubinsky Rolston
Parise Zajac Bergors
Clarkson Zubrus Langs
Vrana Rupp Halischuk


I really really like that.
EDIT: Maybe even sign Gionta if he takes a paycut,

lets get zherdev over here then!

They will pay what it takes to keep Zherdev and Dubinsky. But I'd love to see Lou screw with them and just offer them a few hundred thousand more than the Rags do. Not enough to actually sign them away likely, but enough to force the Rags to waste $1M or so. I think they're in worse salary cap shape than people generally realize or talk about. My assumption is Dolan will have to trade some cap and high picks to a team with cap room.

This is what I have been thinking and came here to post that. At most, the rags could offer dubinsky 2M and change. If Lou REALLY wanted to stick it to the Rags, get him to sign an offer sheet.

Here's my plan. Let Madden walk and take his 2.9 and some of the money we gave to Holik and throw that on an offer sheet to Dubinsky. Anything in the $2.6M - $3.9M
is only a 1st and 3rd round pick.

Elias Dubinsky Rolston
Parise Zajac Bergors
Clarkson Zubrus Langs
Vrana Rupp Halischuk


I really really like that.
EDIT: Maybe even sign Gionta if he takes a paycut,

That's not how Lou rolls.

That's not how Lou rolls.

Yeah, I know. But if you could see Lou using offer sheets on anyone, it'd be the rags bt a longshot.

and cmon, look at that lineup! :)

I really dislike Dubinsky, sorry I would not welcome him on this team.

I really dislike Dubinsky, sorry I would not welcome him on this team.
Why do you dislike Dubinsky?

Don't you just have some players on other teams that you hate for no reason? I can't stand Dubinsky for some reason. Maybe its just that he's got a dumb smirk on his face all the time.

Is it just me, or is it normal for your minds to think trades up all the time? Like your Lou in your in fantasy world?

But really though, imagine Parise, Zajac, Bergfors, Halischuk, Martin, Oduya, Salmela, and Greene being the core to this team for 10+ years. And then throw dubinsky in there with them. Elias will be here quite a while too. (assuming we sign Oduya)

5-6 years from now...

Parise-Zajac-Tedenby
Vasyunov-Cormier-Palmeri
Hoeffel-Vrana-Halischuk
PL3-Zubrus-Clarkson

Corrente-Martin
Eckford-Oduya
Salmela-Greene
Leech

Frazee

I think Patty would be around too, no way this is his last contract. I guess Bergfors got traded?

5-6 years from now...

Parise-Zajac-Tedenby
Vasyunov-Cormier-Palmeri
Hoeffel-Vrana-Halischuk
PL3-Zubrus-Clarkson

Corrente-Martin
Eckford-Oduya
Salmela-Greene
Leech

Frazee

4 to 6 people on that list wont even be playing in the NHL in 5 or 6 years.

Don't you just have some players on other teams that you hate for no reason? I can't stand Dubinsky for some reason. Maybe its just that he's got a dumb smirk on his face all the time.

He looks like a rat, but fair enough. Still, Dubie is a good player. He's struggling now. But I think he could be a good power forward in the future

I think Patty would be around too, no way this is his last contract. I guess Bergfors got traded?

Yeah, I wasn't sure where to put Phaneuf...

4 to 6 people on that list wont even be playing in the NHL in 5 or 6 years.
Yeah, right, sure.

Your 2020 NJ Devils starting lineup
Parise Galactor Scorebot3000
Zod Chelios
RoBrodeur

Yeah, right, sure.

Your 2020 NJ Devils starting lineup
Parise Galactor Scorebot3000
Zod Chelios
RoBrodeur
Insert: Claude Lemeiux.

can we waive pandolfo please:nod:

Yeah, right, sure.

Your 2020 NJ Devils starting lineup
Parise Galactor Scorebot3000
Zod Chelios
RoBrodeur

:laugh::laugh::laugh:


Anyway I didn't know where to ask but what are the chances Gionta re-signs?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:


Anyway I didn't know where to ask but what are the chances Gionta re-signs?

I think it really depends if he wants to take a paycut or not.

I think it really depends if he wants to take a paycut or not.

How much do you think he'd want?

what was Vish's salary last year?

what was Vish's salary last year?

1.8 toward the cap I believe.

Waive Pandolfo, put Rolston in the minors, trade rights to John Madden to sign with another team for a draft pick, same with Gionta, sign Zajac long term to a cap friendly deal, let Oduya walk. Sign J-Bo and a playmaking center, and some cheap spare parts for the bottom lines

Waive Pandolfo, put Rolston in the minors, trade rights to John Madden to sign with another team for a draft pick, same with Gionta, sign Zajac long term to a cap friendly deal, let Oduya walk. Sign J-Bo and a playmaking center, and some cheap spare parts for the bottom lines

Wow lol

Waive Pandolfo, put Rolston in the minors, trade rights to John Madden to sign with another team for a draft pick, same with Gionta, sign Zajac long term to a cap friendly deal, let Oduya walk. Sign J-Bo and a playmaking center, and some cheap spare parts for the bottom lines
Putting Rolston in the minors wouldn't take him off the cap.

What do you guys think Zajac's contract will look like?

when your facing a tightened cap, the value of the player doesnt necessarily go up. Do we know if Zajac is going to require special players like Gomer did. I cant see offering him a big payday just yet. I say no more than 3mil.

This is what I have been thinking and came here to post that. At most, the rags could offer dubinsky 2M and change. If Lou REALLY wanted to stick it to the Rags, get him to sign an offer sheet.

Here's my plan. Let Madden walk and take his 2.9 and some of the money we gave to Holik and throw that on an offer sheet to Dubinsky. Anything in the $2.6M - $3.9M
is only a 1st and 3rd round pick.

Elias Dubinsky Rolston
Parise Zajac Bergors
Clarkson Zubrus Langs
Vrana Rupp Halischuk


I really really like that.
EDIT: Maybe even sign Gionta if he takes a paycut,

this is very good architecture. i tell you tho, how much of Langs do we lose being on the third I dont kno.

I really think if we get defensive defenseman thats better than Salvador to play with Martin our defense will be solid.