TG: Lamoriello just getting started

Lamoriello just getting started

One of the reasons that Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello held his conference call at 11:15 this morning was to get it out of the way before the free agent market opened at noon.

"At 12 o' clock we just want to focus all of our time on the free agency situation," he said.

When asked how active he planned to be today, Lamoriello replied, "It will be very interesting. We’re going to be just like everybody else, trying to better our team. We have to keep some sanity into what we’re doing. Whatever decisions are for today and tomorrow, but we’ll certainly see what’s available to make ourselves better and we’ll do that if we can.”

Lamoriello said the decision to re-sign Salvador doesn't mean he won't look to upgrade the defense through free agency or via trade.

“This does not mean anything we have is status quo," he said. "This does not in any way say that. This is a foundation as far as getting better.”

Salvador's agent, Carlos Sosa, said the although they did not get a no-movement clause or even a limited one, they still believe they have stability in their four-year deal.

"We didn't get (the no-movement), but we got four years at $2.9 (million)," Sosa said. "That acts as a no-trade clause because either he'll be great and it will be a good deal or if he's not playing so well, he'll be a tough guy to trade. It's a good deal."

Sosa said the sides agreed on the deal late Monday night.

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I can't believe Sosa said that. It's true, of course, but I can't believe he actually admitted it.

Agents, feh. Salvador would never have admitted the possibility he might not be playing well in four years.

That quote by Sosa is unnerving........if he doesn't play well, he'll be tough to trade. Hey Sos, does he realize he can get sent to Lowell no problem and we'll keep him there for 4 years?!

I can't believe Sosa said that. It's true, of course, but I can't believe he actually admitted it.

Agents, feh. Salvador would never have admitted the possibility he might not be playing well in four years.

I couldn't believe he said that either hahaha

Even his agent thinks he got grossly overpaid....another reason to hate the deal...

Thats a weird thing for an agent to say.

Great news, I <3 Lou.

And yeah, I cant believe Sosa said that either CD, wow!

well i guess now that salvador is resigned, his agent has nothing to lose! :help:

"doesn't mean he won't look to upgrade the defense through free agency or via trade." = Campbell hunt. :nod:

or better yet... Bouwmeester?!

I can't wait until we trade him tomorrow, hahaha. NJ trades D Bryce Salvador to EDM for F Gilbert Brule. Sucker lol.

"We didn't get (the no-movement), but we got four years at $2.9 (million)," Sosa said. "That acts as a no-trade clause because either he'll be great and it will be a good deal or if he's not playing so well, he'll be a tough guy to trade. It's a good deal."

:shakehead

That has to be one of the stupidest things I've heard from a sports agent. Who signs a 4-year deal and says either he'll be great or "not playing so well" thus the contract becomes an anchor?

Interesting move by Sosa to come out and say that. lol

Translation of Carlos Sosa:

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bling-bling.jpg

I just got paid bit**es! Bling Bling!

Forget that though......he's just getting started! Crazy. What does that crazy old ******* have up his sleeve?

I can't wait until we trade him tomorrow, hahaha. NJ trades D Bryce Salvador to EDM for F Gilbert Brule. Sucker lol.

Done and done.. I would lose my **** if that happened.

Translation of Carlos Sosa:

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bling-bling.jpg

I just got paid bit**es! Bling Bling!

is that the real nacho libre?

is that the real nacho libre?

I think that guy lives in Perth Amboy.

is that the real nacho libre?

Shhh.. you'll reveal his secret identity ;)

I see him more as the love child of Borat and his producer Azamat Bagatov :laugh:

He just said what we're all thinking :)

Translation of Carlos Sosa:

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bling-bling.jpg

I just got paid bit**es! Bling Bling!

Hey, thats JJ. I get Kebab's from his take away all the time.

Forget that though......he's just getting started! Crazy. What does that crazy old ******* have up his sleeve?

Probably just talk to get our hopes up, then he will stomp all over them when nothing else happens, or when Brylin signs a 4 year deal.

Probably just talk to get our hopes up, then he will stomp all over them when nothing else happens, or when Brylin signs a 4 year deal.

I haven't seen you around in a while.. optimistic as always I see ;)

I haven't seen you around in a while.. optimistic as always I see ;)

Like a big bowl of sunshine. :)

I have just confirmed. Pandolfo's deal is three years at $2.5 million per season. It's $2.5 mil straight across the board.
TG said that in the comments


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TG said that in the comments


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**** that.

Would have preferred 2 years 5 mil or 3 years 7 mil.

TG said that in the comments


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:shakehead To much $ imo.

I hate this sitting and waiting for something good to happen, it's worse than the trade deadline. At least with that there's an end in sight.

Did we seriously just spend over $5M on Salvador and Pandolfo...

We seriously did...$5.4 million...:shakehead

Ok, fine we spent 5.4 million on two guys, whatever, I'll deal with it, we still have 13 some odd million. That's enough for Hoss and Hainsey or something like that! Plus the 10% don't worry boys (and girls) we have lots of space left!

Ok, fine we spent 5.4 million on two guys, whatever, I'll deal with it, we still have 13 some odd million. That's enough for Hoss and Hainsey or something like that! Plus the 10% don't worry boys (and girls) we have lots of space left!

My thoughts exactly.

Clarkson's deal is for two years. It pays $800,000 the first year and $875,000 in the second for a total of $1,675,000.

That's a cap hit of $837,500 per year

TG put in the comments.

http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/07/lamoriello-just/comments/page/3/#comments

Ok, fine we spent 5.4 million on two guys, whatever, I'll deal with it, we still have 13 some odd million. That's enough for Hoss and Hainsey or something like that! Plus the 10% don't worry boys (and girls) we have lots of space left!

Yup...$5.4 for the two of them is not bad.

TG put in the comments.

http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/07/lamoriello-just/comments/page/3/#comments

Perfect deal for Clarkie, a raise of 200K, no harm no foul.

Yup...$5.4 for the two of them is not bad.

And three years from now when the Cap is near $65-68 Million, it'll look like nothing.

Yup...$5.4 for the two of them is not bad.

It'd be bad if the Sarge option got picked up. But I can live with them, even though Pando is overpaid now.

Perfect deal for Clarkie, a raise of 200K, no harm no foul.

Yeah..and the cap hit basically stays the same. He had a cap hit of $850,000 this past season because of bonuses in his contract.

It'd be bad if the Sarge option got picked up. But I can live with them, even though Pando is overpaid now.

I'd argue that in 12 months time, we'll love that contract. If he stays healthy year round and plays like he did in the first half, he can score 40 points easy and it'll be worth 2.5 considering Malone is getting almost double that for just 10 more points.

Perfect deal for Clarkie, a raise of 200K, no harm no foul.
Yeah, that deal is spot on for Clarkson. I like that it's for two years, too.

The Pandolfo deal makes me want to pull out my hair, but...

Perfect deal for Clarkie, a raise of 200K, no harm no foul.

He's a steal at that price. Can't wait to see his improvment this upcoming season.

I'd argue that in 12 months time, we'll love that contract. If he stays healthy year round and plays like he did in the first half, he can score 40 points easy and it'll be worth 2.5 considering Malone is getting almost double that for just 10 more points.
That's a big If.

Yeah, that deal is spot on for Clarkson. I like that it's for two years, too.

The Pandolfo deal makes me want to pull out my hair, but...

see above post to maybe change your mind on JaPan.

I'd argue that in 12 months time, we'll love that contract. If he stays healthy year round and plays like he did in the first half, he can score 40 points easy and it'll be worth 2.5 considering Malone is getting almost double that for just 10 more points.

It could go both ways definely. It's a slight overpayment, it's not awful. I probably would've done 2.2. My only concern is age catching up to him.

But I can guarantee everyone that the Salvador contract is going to look great next year.

It could go both ways definely. It's a slight overpayment, it's not awful. I probably would've done 2.2. My only concern is age catching up to him.

But I can guarantee everyone that the Salvador contract is going to look great next year.


what's 300K here or there man? Yeah, age is catching up, but in 11 years, last time was the most amount of time he's missed due to injury. He missed more games in one season then he had in his entire career up to this point. I like it better than getting Rolston who's even older.

see above post to maybe change your mind on JaPan.
See my above post about your above post. :)

It'd be bad if the Sarge option got picked up. But I can live with them, even though Pando is overpaid now.

Guess it makes up for all those years of underpaying the guy. I thought he'd come in between $2-$2.5M, so being on the high end doesn't really bother me. Not like he's off the charts.

im sure yet again, lous gonna have to select from the leftovers. watch out rangers, we got martin rucinsky comin atcha'

Please sign Rolston. Please. We need that shot.

im sure yet again, lous gonna have to select from the leftovers. watch out rangers, we got martin rucinsky comin atcha'

straight outta IR baby!

That's a big If.

He's not going to score. It's not what he does. He's more likely to get 40 points in two seasons than 40 points in one.

That is the worst contract I've ever seen handed out regarding the player's leverage and the team's need for the player.

Gulitti just posted that after today's signings, the Devils have $12.7 Million in cap space remaining.

Rolston for $5 Million per, Hainsey for $4 Million per, and let's get to work!

It could go both ways definely. It's a slight overpayment, it's not awful. I probably would've done 2.2. My only concern is age catching up to him.

But I can guarantee everyone that the Salvador contract is going to look great next year.

.3 will never keep us from signing anyone else. So I don't see much of a reason to complain. We know what we're getting every night from him.

The Salvador contract is fine. People seem to have short memories. I mean Cory "****ing" Sarich got 3.6 million last year!!!

straight outta IR baby!

dam straight. well wait 3 months for his ultimate impactical supefantastical appearance at thunderdo.....the rock

He's not going to score. It's not what he does. He's more likely to get 40 points in two seasons than 40 points in one.

That is the worst contract I've ever seen handed out regarding the player's leverage and the team's need for the player.
You don't have to argue with me on this, I argued that very point to death in the last Pandolfo thread.

Gulitti just posted that after today's signings, the Devils have $12.7 Million in cap space remaining.

Rolston for $5 Million per, Hainsey for $4 Million per, and let's get to work!

We could also go over and make a trade or two to shed some cap space when the time comes. Gionta maybe?

He's not going to score. It's not what he does. He's more likely to get 40 points in two seasons than 40 points in one.

That is the worst contract I've ever seen handed out regarding the player's leverage and the team's need for the player.

Its probably $1mill too heavy, but Jay has been underpaid for years. Its not gunna hurt us this year.

Maybe in a year or two.

Its probably $1mill too heavy, but Jay has been underpaid for years. Its not gunna hurt us this year.

Maybe in a year or two.

But, that's what I mean, it's a gold watch. Brylin infinitely deserves a gold watch more than Pandolfo does, if that's what we're doing.

He's not going to score. It's not what he does. He's more likely to get 40 points in two seasons than 40 points in one.

That is the worst contract I've ever seen handed out regarding the player's leverage and the team's need for the player.

That's a hyperbole if I ever seen one. He would of got atleast 2.3 million wherever he went. It's not that big of a deal. It won't stop us from making another signing and like I said before we know what were getting from him every night.

And Pandolfo was on pace for 18-18-36 last year.

See my above post about your above post. :)

How is him staying healthy a big if? He hasn't missed a significant amount of time in over 5 years.

Gulitti just posted that after today's signings, the Devils have $12.7 Million in cap space remaining.

Rolston for $5 Million per, Hainsey for $4 Million per, and let's get to work!

........umm, no thanks. I can't help but shake the feeling that we're going to be stuck with Rolston.

How is him staying healthy a big if? He hasn't missed a significant amount of time in over 5 years.
Not the healthy. The scoring.

........umm, no thanks. I can't help but shake the feeling that we're going to be stuck with Rolston.

why no to Rolston?
he hasen't lost much skill

Not the healthy. The scoring.

His highest in career was 34 points, last year he was on pace to wreck that. The coaches new style helps him attain that goal scoring potential I think. In 3 years if I even get one 20 goal campaign out of Pandolfo, I'll do a cartwheel or two.

Pando at 2.5 is about what I thought. Don't see what's not to like. Perennial Selke finalist, stays healthy, good locker room leadership, and apparently, he can score goals as was evident by his start. Hopefully he continues to flourish under Sutter's system.

Plus, he's been underpaid for years. 2.5 is a bargain for a guy like Pando and it sure beats seeing him roll to Tampa for 2.3 or something like that or worse yet, the Rangers for 5 million.

But, that's what I mean, it's a gold watch. Brylin infinitely deserves a gold watch more than Pandolfo does, if that's what we're doing.

I'll re-evaluate it in 1 year.

Right now, all I know is that we re-signed the teams Players Player and Selke calibre forward. He has other intangibles than goal scoring that are more useful to NJ than any other team in the league.

Who knows, maybe he continues his scoring pace from earlier last season.

That's a hyperbole if I ever seen one. He would of got atleast 2.3 million wherever he went. It's not that big of a deal. It won't stop us from making another signing and like I said before we know what were getting from him every night.

And Pandolfo was on pace for 18-18-36 last year.

Then you let them pay him. Pando maxes out at 27 points and his average is in the low 20's. Anything other than that is a fluke, like Gomez being a 30 goal scorer.

I don't understand how someone who is in a position to be cleared out gets that much. Jesus, I mean that's a 1.6-1.7 million raise, and we couldn't give Rafalski more than a 20 buck raise last season? LOL, we could have signed Gomez with that.
We weren't going to bump Gomez from $5 million to $7 million on principle, but Pando gets that money?

It's a really bad contract. Salvador's is an A+ compared to it. Langenbrunner's is the greatest contract of all time in comparison.

His highest in career was 34 points, last year he was on pace to wreck that. The coaches new style helps him attain that goal scoring potential I think. In 3 years if I even get one 20 goal campaign out of Pandolfo, I'll do a cartwheel or two.
Jay Pandolfo is also 33 and not getting younger. His point totals are, I'm afraid, more likely to fall than rise.

And his career high was 27 points and last year he was on pace for, I think, 38.

I wonder if Lou offered Mats 10 million per season :laugh:

Then you let them pay him. Pando maxes out at 27 points and his average is in the low 20's. Anything other than that is a fluke, like Gomez being a 30 goal scorer.

I don't understand how someone who is in a position to be cleared out gets that much. Jesus, I mean that's a 1.6-1.7 million raise, and we couldn't give Rafalski more than a 20 buck raise last season? LOL, we could have signed Gomez with that.
We weren't going to bump Gomez from $5 million to $7 million on principle, but Pando gets that money?

It's a really bad contract. Salvador's is an A+ compared to it. Langenbrunner's is the greatest contract of all time in comparison.

You are underrating Jay, he is IMO one of our best defensive forwards. and please how do you know it was a bad contract? Why do you think Lou gave it to him? He must have thought he was worth it.

You are underrating Jay, he is IMO one of our best defensive forwards. and please how do you know it was a bad contract? Why do you think Lou gave it to him? He must have thought he was worth it.

Or just that he owed him for sort of underpaying him his entire career here.

Or just that he owed him for sort of underpaying him his entire career here.

either way I'm sure he knows more about Jay and his value than any of us on a message board.

When we can have PK forwards that consist of Pando+Madden, Zubs, Elias, and Langenbrunner to finish that out, I and everyone else will not think Jay Pandolfo is overpaid.
He won't score, but neither will (insert shadowed player here).

Then you let them pay him. Pando maxes out at 27 points and his average is in the low 20's. Anything other than that is a fluke, like Gomez being a 30 goal scorer.

I don't understand how someone who is in a position to be cleared out gets that much. Jesus, I mean that's a 1.6-1.7 million raise, and we couldn't give Rafalski more than a 20 buck raise last season? LOL, we could have signed Gomez with that.
We weren't going to bump Gomez from $5 million to $7 million on principle, but Pando gets that money?

It's a really bad contract. Salvador's is an A+ compared to it. Langenbrunner's is the greatest contract of all time in comparison.

We were lucky to have him signed so cheap for so long and if he's over paid it's less than a half million. Rafalski got a raise and SIX years! He'll be making that money when he's pushing 40. And Gomez? Yeah we could have given him that money, but he's not worth that type of money by any means. And say good bye to Parise in a few years to sign a 50 million dollar player who's lucky if he scores 20 goals.

He's overpaid by a couple hundred thousand. But he's one of the best at what he does and this contract will never keep us from signing another player. When a contract keeps you from signing a more important player, THAT is a bad contract. This contract isn't that bad and this contract isn't that good. "It is what it is." I'll worry about more pressing needs. Cory Sarich gets 3.6 million but this is somehow the worst contract by a leverage stand point?

You are underrating Jay, he is IMO one of our best defensive forwards. and please how do you know it was a bad contract? Why do you think Lou gave it to him? He must have thought he was worth it.

Almost all of our forwards play defense and are capable of playing PK. We have guys like Gio, who could be really dangerous on the PK, that can't even get out there.

And Lou gave Vlady $7.5M over two years. Must have thought that was worth it. Not comparing the two players, but that shows some error in judgement in value.

Pando is a totally unknown quality. He's never played for anyone else, so we don't know what he's actually worth. He's played with two great checking centers. On another team, he could wash out.

I'm sorry, I just don't understand it. If you told me last spring that I could give around a $2 million raise to either Gomez or Pando, Gomez gets the money.

He's not going to score. It's not what he does. He's more likely to get 40 points in two seasons than 40 points in one.

That is the worst contract I've ever seen handed out regarding the player's leverage and the team's need for the player.

Brad Richards' max contract as a RFA was much worse...

BUt yes, I do think it's a severe overpayment. Lou likes overpaying his own guys at the end of their careers, perhaps as an incentive to keep the young guys loyal.

so........due to the canucks being complete ass****s and offering 10mil a year to sundin, hossa will now believe in his head that hes worth 15mil. so ill just stop envisioning either of them signing here. i guess it seems all the more plausible lou will maybe try and sign rolston, näslund and/or campbell. then maybe shop gio at some point for X.

so........due to the canucks being complete ass****s and offering 10mil a year to sundin, hossa will now believe in his head that hes worth 15mil. so ill just stop envisioning either of them signing here. i guess it seems all the more plausible lou will maybe try and sign rolston, näslund and/or campbell. then maybe shop gio at some point for X.

Hossa is gone. If any of the whacky rumored offers are true, we're not going to be remotely in the ballpark.

Campbell too. I think you're looking at a second tier signing or two today or soon, retreat, and then look at your depth chart and make some trades. Save some cap space, never know what comes available before the season starts.

If Vrana, Corrente, Bergfors and Ekford are going to get serious looks and with Halischuk, who knows, some people are going to lose their jobs. We'll be able to make trades.

Stupid comment by an idiot. Can't believe Lou gave this guy 4 years.

Stupid comment by an idiot. Can't believe Lou gave this guy 4 years.

Salvador didn't make that comment, it was his agent. And GI, what do you mean Hossa is gone? No he isn't.

Salvador didn't make that comment, it was his agent. And GI, what do you mean Hossa is gone? No he isn't.

From our perspective, he is. 12/100?

From our perspective, he is. 12/100?

Codswallop in my opinion. Balderdash and poppycock, that's OV territory.

If money keeps getting tossed out on the market like it's monopoly money, I won't be upset at all to see Lou stand pat. Some of these signings border on insanity.

:shakehead

That has to be one of the stupidest things I've heard from a sports agent.

It's SO stupid that it almost makes you wonder if there was a misunderstanding between Gulitti and Sosa as to whether the comment was "on" or "off" the record or not, because it really is mindboggling.

If money keeps getting tossed out on the market like it's monopoly money, I won't be upset at all to see Lou stand pat. Some of these signings border on insanity.

I don't think so, there haven't been any major impact signings yet.

Rolston, Sundin, Hossa, Campbell are all still out there.

All we have right now is a bunch of BS numbers being thrown around.


Ready for this one:

Brian Rolston just got an offer for 8 mil a year.

There, you read it on the internet, now go tell someone else and bam, rumor starts.

As much as I love FA day, I hate it sometimes.

8 million a year for Rolston? LOL

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/vagel117/funny/sersly.jpg

I don't think so, there haven't been any major impact signings yet.

Rolston, Sundin, Hossa, Campbell are all still out there.

All we have right now is a bunch of BS numbers being thrown around.


Ready for this one:

Brian Rolston just got an offer for 8 mil a year.

There, you read it on the internet, now go tell someone else and bam, rumor starts.

As much as I love FA day, I hate it sometimes.

Jeff Finger just got 3.5 million per. The market has set itself.

Salvador deal just got muuuuch better.

8 million a year for Rolston? LOL

It's true, you just read it on the internets didn't you!

Jeff Finger just got 3.5 million per. The market has set itself.

Salvador deal just got muuuuch better.

It's the Leafs, that doesn't count.

That's like saying a UFA going to the Rangers sets the market.

3:20 Andy Strickland of HockeyBuzz who is very reliable is reporting Darcy Tucker signing is immenent. I've been hearing it may be New Jersey. Pittsburgh did inquire about him. Stay tuned



http://www.theinsideronpittsburghsports.com/



PLEASE GOD NO

It's the Leafs, that doesn't count.

That's like saying a UFA going to the Rangers sets the market.

4.5 for Theodore
3 years for Todd Fedoruk
Vancouver offering 10 per for Sundin

3:20 Andy Strickland of HockeyBuzz who is very reliable is reporting Darcy Tucker signing is immenent. I've been hearing it may be New Jersey. Pittsburgh did inquire about him. Stay tuned



http://www.theinsideronpittsburghsports.com/



PLEASE GOD NO

If it's a one-year deal that's not bad at all..

He has a bad rep b/c he was a Leaf

3:20 Andy Strickland of HockeyBuzz who is very reliable is reporting Darcy Tucker signing is immenent. I've been hearing it may be New Jersey. Pittsburgh did inquire about him. Stay tuned



http://www.theinsideronpittsburghsports.com/



PLEASE GOD NO

If so; then Pelley isn't getting signed is my prediction. Rupp centers the 4th line and Tucker is on wing now with Clarkson opposite.

he has a bed rep because hes a little *****...

Man if Darcy signs in NJ.....lol. He's going to be playing line 2, book it. Strickland also thought NJ was getting Wheeler so........

janssen and tucker werent very friendly but i think thats the only bad blood between clubs, tucker would be a good signing imo, even though i didnt realy like him when he was on tor. he would be a good replacement for asham if the prece is right

Tucker on the fourth line? Book it. Well, at least until I see how much he's getting paid.

he has a bed rep because hes a little *****...

I'd love for you to say that to his face on the street.

Man if Darcy signs in NJ.....lol. He's going to be playing line 2, book it. Strickland also thought NJ was getting Wheeler so........

I would be happy with him on any line

I'd take Tucker.

I would be happy with him on any line

We'd finally have some cajones on our roster. And I'd be rooting for Avery to re-sign with the Rangers. Boy would the intensity be sky high.

We'd finally have some cajones on our roster. And I'd be rooting for Avery to re-sign with the Rangers. Boy would the intensity be sky high.

Even though Avery did pretty much beat his ass one night. :shakehead


Embarrassing, if you ask me.

4.5 for Theodore
3 years for Todd Fedoruk
Vancouver offering 10 per for Sundin

That Sundin offer is making my head spin, that cannot be right. Haven't seen a price yet for Fedork, and I will admit, 4.5 for Theodore is high but didn't Huet and Kolzig just walk? The goalie market is a totally different story.

That Sundin offer is making my head spin, that cannot be right.

Plus if it is, how bad can playing in VAN be if he hasn't already signed?!

Even though Avery did pretty much beat his ass one night. :shakehead


Embarrassing, if you ask me.

That's not the point I'm making though. Avery will have to have to bother two players now. And Tucker will actually stick up for his goaltender.

Tucker to COL

Tucker to COL

2 years 4.5M... I present that as evidence that Jay's contract isn't that bad now.