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r0bb0871 07-01-2008, 11:05 AM UPDATE 11:25AM:
Devils sign Pandolfo, Salvador, Clarkso; Pass on Brylin's option
The Devils have re-signed left wing Jay Pandolfo and defenseman Bryce Salvador, the team announced this morning.
Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello also announced that they have passed on the option on Sergei Brylin's contract for $1.52 million. Lamoriello did not rule out signing Brylin at a later date, but said he will become an unrestricted free agent at noon. Arron Asham will also become an UFA.
The team also res-gined David Clarkson, Barry Tallackson and signed draft picks Matt Halischuk and Vladimir Zharkov.
Lamorello said the decision came down between Pandolfo and Brylin. "It was a very difficult situation," Lamoriello said.
Salvador received a a four-year contract at $2.9 million per season. His deal does not include a no-movement clause of any kind. I don't have details on Pandolfo's deal, yet.
I'll give updates and more detail when I acquire them.
As per TG:
The Devils have re-signed defenseman Bryce Salvador to a four-year contract at $2.9 million per season.
It appears they have re-signed Jay Pandolfo and Sergei Brylin as well, but i'm still waiting for comfirmation on that. The Devils have called an 11:15 a.m. conference call with Lou Lamoriello to "discuss the team's players."
I'll give updates and more detail when I acquire them.
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:07 AM ****, a press conference to announce those 3. If he's having a presser now, he's not going to be signing anyone of significance later. I read his quote where he thinks we have a good team that underachieved.......****.
britdevil 07-01-2008, 11:07 AM Grinders galore!! :laugh:
KohoDonuts88 07-01-2008, 11:08 AM ****, a press conference to announce those 3. If he's having a presser now, he's not going to be signing anyone of significance later. I read his quote where he thinks we have a good team that underachieved.......****.
It's just a conference call. Perhaps he's just making the call to clear the slate before 12 Eastern so he can devote himself to the big signings later.
Devilswede 07-01-2008, 11:08 AM Love Sarge, but didn't want him back.....
I guess it took another $3 million to re-sign those two...and along with Salvador that's $6 million that disappears from our quest for a big FA signing.
Devils9789 07-01-2008, 11:08 AM It's not a press conference, its a conference call, where reporters just sit around and listen to him talk on the phone.
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 07-01-2008, 11:10 AM **** !!!!!!!!!!!!
Press conference at 11h15 = no more UFA's :cry:. Lou doesn't seem like the kind of guy that will hold 2 or 3 press conferences in the same day when he can just make one at the end of the day to recap his acquisitions.
Once again :cry: + :help: = :rant:
Edit... a conference call. YES SIR !!!
Classic Devil 07-01-2008, 11:10 AM Love Sarge, but didn't want him back.....
I guess it took another $3 million to re-sign those two...and along with Salvador that's $6 million that disappears from our quest for a big FA signing.
We don't have a bloody choice on Sarge, guys. If he wants to come back, he's coming back. If we've signed him it's undoubtedly going to be for less than the $1.5M he made this past season, which would mean a smaller cap hit spread over more years. I could go for that - cap hit is everything.
Drewr15 07-01-2008, 11:11 AM TG is assuming they've resigned all 3, don't know for sure yet.
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:12 AM It depends on the terms we see for these guys. I don't think we'll get the #'s right away, but.....I'm going to say Pandolfo 2 million Brylin 3 million spread over 3 years. So between Salvador, Pando and Brylin we used 5.9 million dollars. Also ensuring some of the young guns don't come up to play this year.
ILikeItVeryMuch 07-01-2008, 11:12 AM Hopefully the start of more, I really dont want to ice the same squad that could barely sniff a goal.
Classic Devil 07-01-2008, 11:13 AM It depends on the terms we see for these guys. I don't think we'll get the #'s right away, but.....I'm going to say Pandolfo 2 million Brylin 3 million spread over 3 years. So between Salvador, Pando and Brylin we used 5.9 million dollars. Also ensuring some of the young guns don't come up to play this year.
That's what bothers me.
Devils9789 07-01-2008, 11:14 AM Besides, when was the last time Lou called a press conference to announce a UFA signing??
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:16 AM [/b]
That's what bothers me.
Me too man, but if they play well enough in camp, they deserve a long look while the "vets" ride the pine. Of course this is NJ and we're loyal, so a vet riding the pine is a no go.
So we have for sure playing in NJ next year
F:
Parise
Elias
Brylin
Madden
Pandolfo
Zubrus
Langenbrunner
Zajac
D
Salvador
White
Martin
Oduya
Doesn't leave many openings for new FA's and young guns.
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 07-01-2008, 11:17 AM Besides, when was the last time Lou called a press conference to announce a UFA signing??
When was the last time Lou had to annouce a press conference BECAUSE he signed a top UFA... that's the real question ;)
Buzz Killington 07-01-2008, 11:18 AM Salvador had to be re-signed if they weren't signing someone like Orpik.
I don't understand the value of re-negotiating Brylin's contract. Just let him play out this year, I don't think he'll be more effective than Vrana, Pelley, or some of the cheap, low-tier free agents beyond this year. Why handicap the team beyond this year just to save a few hundred thousand? It's unlikely they'll need the cap space this year.
Pandolfo is different because he is still very effective. He can contribute, Sarge doesn't have the ability to play in the top 6 anymore and he's slowed down a bit and that limits his effectiveness.
KohoDonuts88 07-01-2008, 11:19 AM Thing to be prepared for (probably in the next 10-15 minutes) is the inevitable Lou quotes... "we like our team", "we underachieved and expect our forwards to improve", "we're always looking for ways to improve our team, but we have to be mindful of our budget" yada yada yada.
Everybody's going to get all worked up over these comments. Remember, it's Lou-speak, and frankly doesn't mean much. I'm sure Lou's not heading to the golf course this afternoon.
Classic Devil 07-01-2008, 11:20 AM Salvador had to be re-signed if they weren't signing someone like Orpik.
I don't understand the value of re-negotiating Brylin's contract. Just let him play out this year, I don't think he'll be more effective than Vrana, Pelley, or some of the cheap, low-tier free agents beyond this year. Why handicap the team beyond this year just to save a few hundred thousand? It's unlikely they'll need the cap space this year.
Pandolfo is different because he is still very effective. He can contribute, Sarge doesn't have the ability to play in the top 6 anymore and he's slowed down a bit and that limits his effectiveness.
It's simple: Brylin, being he's under-35, can just retire at the end of this and/or next year, whenver he decides he's no longer effective. His contract comes off the cap and we're in the clear.
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 07-01-2008, 11:20 AM Me too man, but if they play well enough in camp, they deserve a long look while the "vets" ride the pine. Of course this is NJ and we're loyal, so a vet riding the pine is a no go.
So we have for sure playing in NJ next year
F:
Parise
Elias
Brylin
Madden
Pandolfo
Zubrus
Langenbrunner
Zajac
D
Salvador
White
Martin
Oduya
Doesn't leave many openings for new FA's and young guns.
You have a list of 2 legit top 6 forwards and 1 top 2 d-men... There's place for more top and talent if you ask me !!!
britdevil 07-01-2008, 11:20 AM F:
Parise
Elias
Brylin
Madden
Pandolfo
Zubrus
Langenbrunner
Zajac
D
Salvador
White
Martin
Oduya
Add UFA's Wade Redden ($5.5mill) and Brian Rolston ($4mill).
Parise - Elias - Rolston
Zubrus - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo - Madden - Gionta
Brylin - Rupp - Clarkson
Pelley
Redden - Martin
Oduya - Salvador
White - Corrente
Mottau/Vish
Marty
Weekes
Anything like that? :help:
Jiri Bicek 07-01-2008, 11:22 AM Not happy if Brylin returns..
Still have a long day to jump to any conclusions yet.. FA hasn't even started and I can sense the doom on the boards
ILikeItVeryMuch 07-01-2008, 11:22 AM http://www.mondomagazine.net/mondo2_0/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/image-for-sams-list-doom.jpg
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:22 AM Add UFA's Wade Redden ($5.5mill) and Brian Rolston ($4mill).
Parise - Elias - Rolston
Zubrus - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo - Madden - Gionta
Brylin - Rupp - Clarkson
Pelley
Redden - Martin
Oduya - Salvador
White - Corrente
Mottau/Vish
Marty
Weekes
Anything like that? :help:
Maybe, they're decent second options. I really hope the rumors are true and Lou goes hardcore after Hossa and Campbell. Remember, we have a 10% threshold where we can sign two guys and go a bit over the cap. I think teams can actually go to 61 million or so. So we could conceivably sign Hossa AND Campbell, and then just pare down the roster to get to the cap. Like trading Gionta.
britdevil 07-01-2008, 11:24 AM Maybe, they're decent second options. I really hope the rumors are true and Lou goes hardcore after Hossa and Campbell. Remember, we have a 10% threshold where we can sign two guys and go a bit over the cap. I think teams can actually go to 61 million or so. So we could conceivably sign Hossa AND Campbell, and then just pare down the roster to get to the cap. Like trading Gionta.
We would get one of the two mate. I just cant see Lou signing both.
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:27 AM We would get one of the two mate. I just cant see Lou signing both.
I can't either but if he does, talk about a real coup.
crashlanding 07-01-2008, 11:27 AM Not happy if Brylin returns..
Once again, Brylin was returning no matter what. I highly doubt he was going to decline the option on his contract if he couldn't get a longer deal done with Lou.
Buzz Killington 07-01-2008, 11:28 AM It's simple: Brylin, being he's under-35, can just retire at the end of this and/or next year, whenver he decides he's no longer effective. His contract comes off the cap and we're in the clear.
You wouldn't come back for a million+ dollar pay day? It takes the decision out of the Devils hands. Sarge is a good soldier but you can't give players that power when it could hurt the team.
Players usually have a lot of pride, and it's hard for most to just say "I'm no longer effective" and turn down decent cash.
AfroThunder396 07-01-2008, 11:29 AM Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello also announced that they have passed on the option on Sergei Brylin's contract for $1.52 million. Lamoriello did not rule out signing Brylin at a later date, but said he will become an unrestricted free agent at noon. Arron Asham will also become an UFA.
The team also res-gined David Clarkson, Barry Tallackson and signed draft picks Matt Halischuk and Vladimir Zharkov.
Lamorello said the decision came down between Pandolfo and Brylin. "It was a very difficult situation," Lamoriello said.
http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/07/devils-sign-s-1.html
fredthelen 07-01-2008, 11:29 AM The good thing about all this is: Lou has signed everyone of significance that was on the team before the deadline has expired, meaning he knows exactly what kind of amounts he can and needs to spend on new players. Given that I don´t consider Brylin really a significant signing, but he s still a solid 4th liner....we will have enough money to at least acquire 2 good to very good Free Agents or one real impact player.
However, if we don´t acquire anybody of significance, I am gonna hit the roof.
KohoDonuts88 07-01-2008, 11:30 AM Devils sign Pandolfo, Salvador, Clarkson; Pass on Brylin's option
The Devils have re-signed left wing Jay Pandolfo and defenseman Bryce Salvador, the team announced this morning.
Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello also announced that they have passed on the option on Sergei Brylin's contract for $1.52 million. Lamoriello did not rule out signing Brylin at a later date, but said he will become an unrestricted free agent at noon. Arron Asham will also become an UFA.
The team also res-gined David Clarkson and Barry Tallackson and signed draft picks Matt Halischuk (2007) and Vladimir Zharkov (2006).
Lamorello said the decision came down between Pandolfo and Brylin. "It was a very difficult situation," Lamoriello said.
Salvador received a a four-year contract at $2.9 million per season. His deal does not include a no-movement clause of any kind. I don't have details on Pandolfo's deal, yet.
I'll give updates and more detail when I acquire them.
http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/07/devils-sign-s-1.html
GameSeven 07-01-2008, 11:30 AM http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/07/devils-sign-s-1.html
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:30 AM Zharkov!? Damn that's a surprise. Halischuk will be given EVERY opportunity to make the team. I'm sad to see Brylin go, please come back at 750K a season. He'll look weird in a different jersey. Why did we re-sign Tallackson, did they need a plugger down there? Anyways, now that this is over, Lou, GET TO WORK!
SCOTTIESTEVENS 07-01-2008, 11:31 AM So far so good..
JDevils3 07-01-2008, 11:31 AM Don't ask me why, but I'm excite they signed Zharkov. :handclap:
Devilswede 07-01-2008, 11:31 AM Sad ending on Sarge's part...but it had to happen. The end is near for him.
fIREnIcE 07-01-2008, 11:32 AM ****, a press conference to announce those 3. If he's having a presser now, he's not going to be signing anyone of significance later. I read his quote where he thinks we have a good team that underachieved.......****.
DF you my only friend....
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:32 AM NO NMC of ANY KIND for Salvador! Pure genius Lou!!
KohoDonuts88 07-01-2008, 11:32 AM I can't believe Brylin didn't exercise his option. Either he has decided to pursue a multi-year deal elsewhere, or he's taking one for the team, and they'll work out a deal later. I hope it's the latter.
Buzz Killington 07-01-2008, 11:32 AM YES!! Jay is back! Zharkov is icing on the cake, along with no NMC for Salvador.
Not sure exactly what's going on with Brylin. Might be a handshake deal with Lou to sign him multiyear after he explores the market.
And I'm ever so sad to see "whatever" leave the team.
David Puddy 07-01-2008, 11:33 AM We don't have a bloody choice on Sarge, guys. If he wants to come back, he's coming back. If we've signed him it's undoubtedly going to be for less than the $1.5M he made this past season, which would mean a smaller cap hit spread over more years. I could go for that - cap hit is everything.He could be traded or sent to the minors.
Also, the sheer fact that the team didn't have a player in the team's plans, if that was the case, would have likely acted as a deterrent to the player in exercising the option.
fIREnIcE 07-01-2008, 11:34 AM tallaackson, geez at least humor us with someone who could be of assistance if called up for game id rather have jeff teffe jeff f'in taffe
Drewr15 07-01-2008, 11:35 AM So far so good. Liking Lou's moves so far. sorry about Sarge and who knows maybe he will come back at a cheaper rate.
Austrian Devil 07-01-2008, 11:35 AM Nice!
Classic Devil 07-01-2008, 11:35 AM Halischuk signed! Zharkov signed! We passed on Sarge!
I'm sorry, Sarge, I love you dearly, but please retire so I can always say you spent your whole career in a Devils uniform.
Classic Devil 07-01-2008, 11:36 AM Um... one thing. Tallackson?
fIREnIcE 07-01-2008, 11:36 AM I can't believe Brylin didn't exercise his option. Either he has decided to pursue a multi-year deal elsewhere, or he's taking one for the team, and they'll work out a deal later. I hope it's the latter.
but its they same team that had failed REPEATEDLY why si everyone so excited, yes we didnt have sal last year good start, keeping pando good but at what price, clarkson no suprise there, tallackson threw up, zharkov what happend to vas
Harrison Ford 07-01-2008, 11:38 AM what happened to vasyunov? :(
Devils9789 07-01-2008, 11:38 AM Um... one thing. Tallackson?
Maybe part of a sign and trade?
fIREnIcE 07-01-2008, 11:39 AM 2.9 is a lil high but considering the market and what colin got its cool just his age is a lil scary weve been down that road before
elias026 07-01-2008, 11:42 AM How Much was Pandolfo and Clarkson??????????
The Jersey Devil 07-01-2008, 11:42 AM Lou did exactly what I would have done.
Devilswede 07-01-2008, 11:43 AM Great job by Lou, allthough I still think that Salvador is overpaid.
We don't know what Pando and Clarkie got yet either.
JRZ DVLS 07-01-2008, 11:43 AM Que the MAtt Halischuk man crush thread
Mr.Krinkle 07-01-2008, 11:45 AM So glad we signed back Pando. Not shocking Brylin's option was not done, I can see him signing on for cheaper once the starting gun fires at noon.
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 11:46 AM Before I get overly excited, I want to know what Pandolfo and Clarkson got.
Paralyzer008 07-01-2008, 11:47 AM Pandolfo is great to keep because of his penalty killing and effective 3rd line checking
Halischuk and Zharkov are great prospects with great potiential.
Clarkson is an effective agitator/scorer that Lou loves.
Tallackson has potential.
fortheloveof666 07-01-2008, 11:48 AM Bye Sarge :surrender
dzanimal16 07-01-2008, 11:49 AM i wanna know the details of pando's contract.....
Buzz Killington 07-01-2008, 11:50 AM TG says "Lamoriello said Brylin did not exercise his option and will see what else is out there for him."
Either Sarge is ready to hang 'em up, or he has a handshake deal with Lou.
Sarge is the man no matter what.
britdevil 07-01-2008, 12:02 PM All great news, except for Sarge.
I knew this day would come sooner or later, but man, I wasnt really ready for it yet. He might still come back on a cheap deal, but in case he doesnt, happy trails mate!!
DevilsFan38 07-01-2008, 12:07 PM We had two threads going on the same thing so now they're merged.
Um... one thing. Tallackson?
Lowell. He was their second leading goal scorer, I have no problem keeping him around. I want them to be competitive too.
PhillyDevil 07-01-2008, 12:19 PM Um... one thing. Tallackson?
I would have bet money that he was a goner but maybe it's just to keep him in Lowell. By all accounts, he was one of their better players and Lowell needs all the help they can get. If nothing else it's another asset that can be a throw-in in a trade.
Classic Devil 07-01-2008, 12:21 PM I would have bet money that he was a goner but maybe it's just to keep him in Lowell. By all accounts, he was one of their better players and Lowell needs all the help they can get. If nothing else it's another asset that can be a throw-in in a trade.
Well, I have no problem keeping him around. In fact, I was one of the few people on these boards who wanted to see him get another shot with the Devils, but that never materialized.
It's just strange - Tallackson must have resigned himself to not making the NHL, otherwise I can't imagine why he would stay.
Harrison Ford 07-01-2008, 12:21 PM Que the MAtt Halischuk man crush thread
now to think of it, he is dreamy. :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
Das Uber 07-01-2008, 12:31 PM Vasyunov?
Marv4Life 07-01-2008, 12:35 PM So you overpay for an overrated guy who got injured as soon as he got traded, and sign 2 guys who are expendable(I wanna know the terms of Pando's contract; if it's over $1.5mil Lou is even more delousional than I thought)?
None Shall Pass 07-01-2008, 12:43 PM $2.9 isn't overpaying for Salvo.
He's a solid stay-at-home guy.
Watch Orpik get signed, then tell me Salvador's overpaid.
GentlemanOfLeisure 07-01-2008, 12:47 PM 3 years 2.5 mill for Pando. Per sportsnet.
Devilswede 07-01-2008, 12:48 PM Pandolfo will get $2.5 million per year the next three years.
Isn't that an overpayement too!!? C'mon Lou!!
This nonsense has got to stop at some point....but I guess they are rewarding Pandolfo more than they are paying him what he's worth.
http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2008/07/pandolfo_wanted_to_stay.html
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 12:50 PM 3 years 7.5....bullcrap.
Marv4Life 07-01-2008, 12:51 PM I rest my case. Pathetic.
britdevil 07-01-2008, 12:51 PM Meh, $500k is nothing and we all wanted him back for $2mill.
Devilswede 07-01-2008, 12:54 PM His latest update:
Pandolfo signs, Brylin (E1)
"Jay Pandolfo re-signs. Brylin very close (e4)"
- Eklund
Comments [0]
hahahahahahahaha
The Jersey Devil 07-01-2008, 01:02 PM His latest update:
Pandolfo signs, Brylin (E1)
"Jay Pandolfo re-signs. Brylin very close (e4)"
- Eklund
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hahahahahahahaha
What a dink.
Devilswede 07-01-2008, 01:25 PM Update:
Clarkson's deal is for two years. It pays $800,000 the first year and $875,000 in the second for a total of $1,675,000.
That's a cap hit of $837,500 per year
Posted by: TG | July 01, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Clarkson Falls Down 07-01-2008, 01:25 PM Jeez what an overpayment.
Xx MadPnoy86 xX 07-01-2008, 01:26 PM TG reports:
Clarkson's deal is for two years. It pays $800,000 the first year and $875,000 in the second for a total of $1,675,000.
That's a cap hit of $837,500 per year
britdevil 07-01-2008, 01:27 PM Perfect for Clarkie. :handclap:
Clarkson Falls Down 07-01-2008, 01:27 PM Perfect for Clarkie. :handclap:
Yep, just around where I thought he'd be.
Xx MadPnoy86 xX 07-01-2008, 01:30 PM oops i'm a minute late. you can delete my post if you want to...
so with all those signings, where does that leave us?
JDevils3 07-01-2008, 01:30 PM I don't mind 2.5 for Pando, he could have gotten that on the open market. Salvador seems a bit much. I can't imagine someone else was willing to give him 2.9 for four years. All UFA's will be overpaid, just a fact of life. Pando and Clarkson, very good... Salvador not so much.
guyincognito 07-01-2008, 01:30 PM Dudes, Salvador's contract is okay because they are not tied to him. It's a little too much, a couple hundred K against the cap too much. But, at least signing him completes the fleecing of JD, where we got handed him for basically nothing... Sutter wasn't using Janssen and Janssen will probably be done this season as an NHL player.
Pando at 2.5M is a joke, that's the one you should be looking at and saying what in the blue hell was going on? He hadn't even gotten out on the market yet. That's 1.5M more than he should be getting.
Muttley 07-01-2008, 01:38 PM Dudes, Salvador's contract is okay because they are not tied to him. It's a little too much, a couple hundred K against the cap too much. But, at least signing him completes the fleecing of JD, where we got handed him for basically nothing... Sutter wasn't using Janssen and Janssen will probably be done this season as an NHL player.
Pando at 2.5M is a joke, that's the one you should be looking at and saying what in the blue hell was going on? He hadn't even gotten out on the market yet. That's 1.5M more than he should be getting.
Lou really likes those fellow New Englander's to a fault, to the point of overpaying them of course, not to mention keeping junk like Mike Mottau back for yet another season.
guyincognito 07-01-2008, 01:43 PM Lou really likes those fellow New Englander's to a fault, to the point of overpaying them of course, not to mention keeping junk like Mike Mottau back for yet another season.
We don't pay Mike Mottau anything, though. I love having cheap junk around like that. Oduya is the mother of all steals, for what we're paying him.
But what I don't understand is how Pando can be worth that much before 12PM. It would be one thing if he faxed in some offers at 1PM and said, "Look Lou, this is what Boston and Sather wants to pay me, and you can match it." But, before 12? Don't be handing out gold watches to guys because they were slightly underpaid their entire career. By that standard, they should have reupped Brylin.
I'm waiting for the next step, that he has a NMC. Not that it matters, I wouldn't give you a hot dog for Pando at the price. Not even a dollar dog.
wingmanpei 07-01-2008, 01:43 PM I don't mind $2.5 for Pandolfo, I think that is more reasonable than $2.9 for Salvador. Glad to see Clarkson signed and at a reasonable rate too.
TheDevilMadeMe 07-01-2008, 02:28 PM I can't believe Brylin didn't exercise his option. Either he has decided to pursue a multi-year deal elsewhere, or he's taking one for the team, and they'll work out a deal later. I hope it's the latter.
Seems strange to me. Maybe Lou let him know he wasn't wanted anymore and might play in the minors if he exercised his option, so Brylin decided he'd rather go back to Russia and make decent cash, rather than play for a year with a team that doesn't want him?
TheDevilMadeMe 07-01-2008, 02:32 PM Pando is definitely being paid too much for what he's done, but maybe Lou thinks that he can continue his offensive surger, er at least competence, that he showed early in the year under Sutter?
jkrdevil 07-01-2008, 02:34 PM Never mind, I miss read. 2.5 per year is an over payment.
Richer's Ghost 07-01-2008, 02:36 PM It's 2.5 over 3 years not 2.5 per year. That comes out to 830K per year which is a slight increase over what he made.
http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/07/pandolfo-happy.html
TG's blog:
Left wing Jay Pandolfo is glad to be staying in New Jersey and said he didn't have much interest in checking out what he could have made on the open market. That's why he passed on unrestricted free agency to sign a three-year contract at $2.5 million per season with the Devils.
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 02:37 PM It's 2.5 over 3 years not 2.5 per year. That comes out to 830K per year which is a slight increase over what he made.
http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2008/07/pandolfo-happy.html
ummmmmmm.........no it's 3 years 2.5 each year ;)
OnDaMark 07-01-2008, 02:48 PM I set my expectation low and and was still blown out of the water with the $2.5 M per season for 4th line at best, Pando. And what other team will want him in year 2 or 3 of his contract when he should be let go or traded. What is Lou thinking? Has Lou lost it?
The Mad Crapper 07-01-2008, 02:52 PM I guess that was a royalty, ahem...I mean loyalty pay increase.
guyincognito 07-01-2008, 02:54 PM C'mon... give me one forward and I'll shut up until September. Lou seems to be committing to the kids, and they'll cause roster creep before the season starts, we can fill out then.
Jiri Bicek 07-01-2008, 03:11 PM Will every signing draw an "overpayment" from the boards?
crashlanding 07-01-2008, 03:15 PM Will every signing draw an "overpayment" from the boards?
Yes, it happens every year and at the trade deadline.
åboriginal 07-01-2008, 03:15 PM Will every signing draw an "overpayment" from the boards?
well, i think the clarkson signing was quite acceptable. the pando signing i can live with i suppose since hes proven himself and can i guess still do what he always does. but the salvador signing.......sosas yayo mustve been too strong and messed up lous better judgement:shakehead.
http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Misdaad/ScarSosa1.jpg
Elias to Parise 07-01-2008, 03:16 PM Will every signing draw an "overpayment" from the boards?
yes.
OnDaMark 07-01-2008, 03:16 PM If it's true !! Why not?
Jiri Bicek 07-01-2008, 03:19 PM If it's true !! Why not?
The cap goes up and contracts will go up
I don't see much overpayment on the Devils side today..
Salvador is in the range of 2nd pairing defensemen and Pando was due for a raise.. He's been under payed the last few years..
If you want a guy you might have to "overpay" him
Edit: Jeff Finger IS overpayment
britdevil 07-01-2008, 03:59 PM well, i think the clarkson signing was quite acceptable. the pando signing i can live with i suppose since hes proven himself and can i guess still do what he always does. but the salvador signing.......sosas yayo mustve been too strong and messed up lous better judgement:shakehead.
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4check22 07-01-2008, 04:15 PM Basically, this contract says that Pando is basically equal to Langs . . . and that is horse****.
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 04:29 PM Basically, this contract says that Pando is basically equal to Langs . . . and that is horse****.
I'll respectfully disagree:
Salvador was happy to see Lamoriello re-signed Jay Pandolfo, too.
“Most people only see what’s on the ice and what a lot people fail to see is what goes on in the dressing room, how important that glue and how important that chemistry is," Salvador said. "Just from the couple of months that I was there, I just saw how important Jay was in the room. Everybody knows how good he is on the ice and what he provides on the ice, but a big part of that decision there is the character that he has.”
Jiri Bicek 07-01-2008, 04:33 PM Basically, this contract says that Pando is basically equal to Langs . . . and that is horse****.
So, what did it say when he was being paid as little as guys like Kevin Weekes and Aaron Asham? Not to mention being paid less than guys like Rachunek and Vish
Your reaching...
crashlanding 07-01-2008, 04:34 PM Basically, this contract says that Pando is basically equal to Langs . . . and that is horse****.
Langs was worthless last year.
4check22 07-01-2008, 04:35 PM $2.5 million for Jay Pandolfo. You can honestly say that Jay Pandolfo is worth $2.5 million? Really?
Devilsfanatic 07-01-2008, 04:36 PM Easily if Jeff Finger is worth more than that, and if Darcy Tucker is about close to that, and Ryan Malone is double that.
Devilswede 07-01-2008, 04:36 PM Lou thinks so...so yeah..he apparently is.
borrachon 07-01-2008, 04:37 PM I don't mind the Salvador deal, except we already have an injury prone defensive defenceman signed at $3M for the next half-decade. I don't like the Pandolfo deal. We're paying way too many forwards too much to not put the puck in the net.
4check22 07-01-2008, 04:48 PM If Pando could kick in 20 goals and 45 points, I'd gladly sign the guy for $2.5 million per. But this team has been offensively challenged for a while now, and I'd like some skill on our top three lines. If the guy is great in the locker room, I guess that is worth something, but holding together the core group of a team that can't make it out of the first round doesn't seem to be an outstanding idea either.
Jiri Bicek 07-01-2008, 04:52 PM I don't mind the Salvador deal, except we already have an injury prone defensive defenceman signed at $3M for the next half-decade. I don't like the Pandolfo deal. We're paying way too many forwards too much to not put the puck in the net.
Salvador has averaged 65 games a season in his career (that's because of only 1 bad season or that number would be higher).. Not too bad
OnDaMark 07-01-2008, 04:53 PM The cap goes up and contracts will go up
I don't see much overpayment on the Devils side today..
Salvador is in the range of 2nd pairing defensemen and Pando was due for a raise.. He's been under payed the last few years..
If you want a guy you might have to "overpay" him
Edit: Jeff Finger IS overpayment
And we need him because, at that price? Oh I get it to make up for shortchanging him $$$ in previous years.
Clarkson Falls Down 07-01-2008, 04:54 PM Langs was worthless last year.
He played great after his return from injury. He stunk after the ASB. I wouldn't even have called him "worthless" then.
Jiri Bicek 07-01-2008, 05:07 PM Re:OnDaMark
Pando is valuable to the team.. The players and Lou have said it.. Some people are making $2.5 seem like it's $4.5
Look at some of the contracts being handed out
crashlanding 07-01-2008, 05:36 PM He played great after his return from injury. He stunk after the ASB. I wouldn't even have called him "worthless" then.
In his last 24 games....3 goals, 4 assists, -8. 3 goals on 56 shots just over 5% shooting percentage.
Give'em Hell! 07-01-2008, 05:50 PM i am completely disappointed with everything Lou has done so far today except for the pleasant surprise of signing Zharkov. When are we going to change the formula around here. We keep playing the same guys with the same system only with players a year older next year. In a few years we will be running a retirement home with all these long terms deals with our 30 something group.
somebody was mentioning it looks like Lou is going with youth. how do you figure? we are possibly losing 1 forward if Brylin is not brought back.
crashlanding 07-01-2008, 05:58 PM i am completely disappointed with everything Lou has done so far today except for the pleasant surprise of signing Zharkov. When are we going to change the formula around here. We keep playing the same guys with the same system only with players a year older next year. In a few years we will be running a retirement home with all these long terms deals with our 30 something group.
somebody was mentioning it looks like Lou is going with youth. how do you figure? we are possibly losing 1 forward if Brylin is not brought back.
Two, Asham.
OnDaMark 07-01-2008, 06:00 PM Re:OnDaMark
Pando is valuable to the team.. The players and Lou have said it.. Some people are making $2.5 seem like it's $4.5
Look at some of the contracts being handed out
Jiri, I think it best that we agree to disagree re: Hand of Stone's value to the Devils scoring or as a senior in the Devils locker room at $2,500,000 per year. PS I don't think he is making $4.5 M/yr I think he is making $2.5 M/yr.
I Hate Tie DOMI 07-01-2008, 06:12 PM This contract is looking better and better
Commodore 3.75
Finger 3.5
Salvador 2.9
sattar18 07-01-2008, 06:16 PM This contract is looking better and better
Commodore 3.75
Finger 3.5
Salvador 2.9
and to think people where bashing this signing early in the morning :shakehead
Darius Dangleaitis 07-01-2008, 06:17 PM This contract is looking better and better
Commodore 3.75
Finger 3.5
Salvador 2.9
This signing is a steal. It's a much better deal than Columbus got for Clown Boy.
The Mad Crapper 07-01-2008, 06:43 PM I'll respectfully disagree:
Salvador was happy to see Lamoriello re-signed Jay Pandolfo, too.
“Most people only see what’s on the ice and what a lot people fail to see is what goes on in the dressing room, how important that glue and how important that chemistry is," Salvador said. "Just from the couple of months that I was there, I just saw how important Jay was in the room. Everybody knows how good he is on the ice and what he provides on the ice, but a big part of that decision there is the character that he has.”
Reading that makes me think of this:
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DevilsFan38 07-02-2008, 10:14 AM http://www.northjersey.com/sports/devils/Devils_choose_Pandolfo_over_Brylin.html
Pandolfo, a 33-year-old left wing, received a three-year contract at $2.5 million per season. Pandolfo’s deal also includes a full no-trade clause.
I hadn't seen this posted yet. I am definitely not a fan.
Richer's Ghost 07-02-2008, 10:18 AM $2.5 million for Jay Pandolfo. You can honestly say that Jay Pandolfo is worth $2.5 million? Really?
When you consider he's been playing for under 900k up to this point - YES. He signed cheap & long term and his value has gone up all along to the team. This is simply balancing the books on him for his career worth to the organization. And yes I consider him just as valuable to the team as Langs right now. He's better defensively than Langs and quicker. Pando is the Yin and Langs is the Yang with Madden dotting both in the middle - a perfect grinder/shutdown line imo.
Game Breaker 07-02-2008, 10:48 AM When you consider he's been playing for under 900k up to this point - YES. He signed cheap & long term and his value has gone up all along to the team. This is simply balancing the books on him for his career worth to the organization. And yes I consider him just as valuable to the team as Langs right now. He's better defensively than Langs and quicker. Pando is the Yin and Langs is the Yang with Madden dotting both in the middle - a perfect grinder/shutdown line imo.
Hmm, that sounds pretty kinky...:sarcasm:
Nobody should have a problem with Pando having a NTC. Think about it, we JUST resigned him and its not like he is going to get traded. He is invaluable to this team whether or not people want to accept it. He is a big locker-room guy, and him having a NTC doesn't make a difference either way. He is not going to get traded, so pretend he doesn't have one if it will make you feel better.
Devilsfanatic 07-02-2008, 11:30 AM http://www.northjersey.com/sports/devils/Devils_choose_Pandolfo_over_Brylin.html
I hadn't seen this posted yet. I am definitely not a fan.
Eh, what difference does it make? We're not going to trade him anyways.
DevilsFan38 07-02-2008, 12:24 PM Eh, what difference does it make? We're not going to trade him anyways.
You never know. I just don't like limiting our options.
Devilsfanatic 07-02-2008, 12:31 PM You never know. I just don't like limiting our options.
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