Devils sign Bryce Salvador

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$2.9 per, a little high maybe (I was thinking 2.5). Hopefully no NTC.

4 year deal @ $2.9M per, according to Andy Strickland (who I believe is reliable).

good deal, hes the best stay at home guy now that whitey is half blind.

Wow, if true...that's a good amount of dough/years.

4 years totaling 11.6? Not bad I guess. Now that he finally has stability, let's hope he can play very well for us.

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It's way toooooo much imo assuming this is true.

Nice, nice.

Eh, not too bad, better than having Motts, Brook and Vish. He's a solid stay-at-home guy, I feel Lou is going to go for an offensive d-man now.

:amazed:

In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....

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It's way toooooo much imo assuming this is true.

Really? I'm not going to quibble about a few hundred thou, when we're talking about 56 mil. It's the Hossa contracts that will be about 2-3 mil too expensive that I'd worry about.

I think that's a fair price for Salvador.

Terrible signing.

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Eh, not too bad, better than having Motts, Brook and Vish. He's a solid stay-at-home guy, I feel Lou is going to go for an offensive d-man now.


Exactly, we have our Top 2 defensive guys, now one more offensive type to round out the Top 4 (Martin, Salvador, White, ????)

Okay Lou, take five, we are done today. :sarcasm:

ehhhh. it's colin white type money... they're about on par. i'm ok with this

Terrible signing.

really? how is that, he is easily gonna be the best defensive dman the team has and it was figured he would at least double his salary from his last contract...........if this is the only thing lou does today then i'll *****

Eh, not too bad, better than having Motts, Brook and Vish. He's a solid stay-at-home guy, I feel Lou is going to go for an offensive d-man now.

Campbell on deck I suspect.

Rolston up to bat now first to see how much $$$ he can afford after that.

Im on the ropes with this one, Lou's giving me a good thrashing.

:fence:

Exactly, we have our Top 2 defensive guys, now one more offensive type to round out the Top 4 (Martin, Salvador, White, ????)

Redden? (Campbell is too much now if we want a forward)

In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....

Okay Lou, take five, we are done today. :sarcasm:

probably what will happen.

I can see Pando walking with no replacement too.

God I hope these guys spend this year. And by spend I mean maybe over pay for a player with a high upside instead of $2.9 for Bryce Salvador.

Assuming we're going to add 1 more d-man...

Lou trades Gionta to acquire d-man, meaning no free agent D (Redden, Campbell)
Or Lou signs a free agent D, meaning we potentially have a glut of wingers (Zubrus, Langenbrunner, Parise, Bergfors, Gionta) meaning we likely won't see a Top 6 free agent winger added. Perhaps a center, though.

Terrible signing.

Why ??? The guy is our best defensive defensemen, he's reliable and makes the same amount of money as Colin White. White will now be a #4 or #5 d-men on our roster if we can sign a offensive d-men (Redden or Campbell). I can see a Martin - Oduya, Redden - Salvador and White - Greene/Corrente pairing.

No ???

No NTC = good signing.

No NTC = good signing.

Good.

And once again, Lou and Bryce steal the headlines early in the day.

Yay

I don't understand all the hate about this

Before he got injured I thought he played an excellent positional game, knew when it was appropriate to commit to hits, and had a pretty nice shot from the point as well.

People, nobody works for free in the NHL. Maybe a touch higher than expected, but nothing outrageous here.

Maybe a wee bit much, but I like the fact the Lou wouldn't let him walk.

Why? We have enough d-men that can't score.
Just gonna go out on a limb here though and say there's a trade on defense a comin'.

How the heck is gonna Lou sign for example Redden and at least one forward who can put the puck into the net after this signing?

Yay

I don't understand all the hate about this

Before he got injured I thought he played an excellent positional game, knew when it was appropriate to commit to hits, and had a pretty nice shot from the point as well.

People, nobody works for free in the NHL. Maybe a touch higher than expected, but nothing outrageous here.

it was figured he would demand at least double his $1.5 million...........

Too many years imo, but I like it in principal. Now go get a quality puckmover Lou.

man why does Gionta always have to be involved in trade scenarios :(

IMO Gionta is only up for trading if we acquire a Top 3 forward.

We don't have a true Top 3 other than Elias or Parise and we can't assume that prospects such as Bergfors or Vrana even have a shot at a Top 6 spot in September.

How the heck is gonna Lou sign for example Redden and at least one forward who can put the puck into the net after this signing?

I figure there's still about $10M available, assuming Pando's gone, and Vishnevski goes eventually.

No NTC = good signing.
Is it confirmed w/o a NTC?

$2.9 cap hit per season for 4 years... Not bad considering the supply/demand for Dmen in this years UFA's.

Lou's not done. 2 more deals (1 big one) to go...

How the heck is gonna Lou sign for example Redden and at least one forward who can put the puck into the net after this signing?

There is still plenty of room for good stuff to happen. Maybe he goes for a lower level foward, demitra type, and goes after a higher-end dman.

I had Manny Legace on my fantasy team this year... and his stats went downhill as soon as Bryce left St. Louis. Could be complete coincidence, but its the truth

man why does Gionta always have to be involved in trade scenarios :(

IMO Gionta is only up for trading if we acquire a Top 3 forward.

We don't have a true Top 3 other than Elias or Parise and we can't assume that prospects such as Bergfors or Vrana even have a shot at a Top 6 spot in September.

I think IF Gionta gets traded, its for D, and it means we've signed a forward to take his place.

$2.9 cap hit per season for 4 years... Not bad considering the supply/demand for Dmen in this years UFA's.

Lou's not done. 2 more deals (1 big one) to go...

Redden & Rolston?

Please??

Im not really a fan of this, i guess as long as he didnt get the NTC im fine with it but if he did than he shouldnt have made ne thing more than 2 or 2.5. The NTC would really handcuff us.........

This is terrible. I have nothing against Salvador...but I have something against his new salary. Having two stay at home d-men making $3 million each is ridiculous IMO...

Redden & Rolston?

Please??

I prefer Campbell but yes.

I don't see one reported anywhere. Even with a NTC I don't mind this signing. What I don't understand is having both Salvador and White. It seems we really only need one or the other, not both.

This is terrible. I have nothing against Salvador...but I have something against his new salary. Having two stay at home d-men making $3 million each is ridiculous IMO...

Just wait until Brooks Orpik signs his new contract, you'll feel better.

I don't see one reported anywhere. Even with a NTC I don't mind this signing. What I don't understand is having both Salvador and White. It seems we really only need one or the other, not both.

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I prefer Campbell but yes.

I was thinking that Redden could save us a couple mill to get Rolston, Campbell and Rollie isnt very realistic.... is it?

Just wait until Brooks Orpik signs his new contract, you'll feel better.
I wonder what the Rangers will give him

I am happy Salvador is back, he played very well, and his style fits in great in NJ. I do worry about him staying healthy for the four years, seems like the deal is a year too long, but I can't complain, I think 2.9 isn't that much of a cap hit with the way the cap keeps going up and up. As long as there isn't a NMC or NTC I will be very happy with this deal.

Just wait until Brooks Orpik signs his new contract, you'll feel better.

Nail hit, head on. :handclap:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242146&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main

Confirmed.

I do like this signing for various reasons.

Salvador has shown last year that he is a real beast and a rock solid stay-at-home defender. The question arises: Do we need him and White eating up 6 millions of cap space? MAybe not, but at the same time, White is not the old White with his eye issue, and maybe Lou wanted to be sure that he has a solid guy on defence who can definitely lay a few hits. And 2.9, with all the other contracts being handed down, is not really too much. Lou is assured to have Martin-Oduya, White-Mottau and Salvador as his top 5...We only need another very good one, or we have to hope that Corrente is nhl ready next season.

At least Lou did not wait way too long, he made this signing and can now focus entirely on other things. I don´t want to read this board if Lou let s him walk and cannot replace him. At least with Bryce we know what we are getting.

I wonder if this says anything about Pandolfo and re-signing? Salvador's been on the team the least of the three by far (he, Pandolfo, Brylin) and he's signed first - making it look like top priority. I wonder if this means Lou won't re-sign Pandolfo. Maybe I'm looking too much into it.

Corrente needs to spend a year in Lowell. Everyone should spend a year in the minors, as far as I'm concerned. And hopefully our D is in a position where Mike Mottau's best case scenario is fighting like hell in training camp to get an NHL job.

We should know within an hour on Brylin. I would be SHOCKED if he isn't back. At the very least, he's picking up his option.

I do like this signing for various reasons.

Salvador has shown last year that he is a real beast and a rock solid stay-at-home defender. The question arises: Do we need him and White eating up 6 millions of cap space? MAybe not, but at the same time, White is not the old White with his eye issue, and maybe Lou wanted to be sure that he has a solid guy on defence who can definitely lay a few hits. And 2.9, with all the other contracts being handed down, is not really too much. Lou is assured to have Martin-Oduya, White-Mottau and Salvador as his top 5...We only need another very good one, or we have to hope that Corrente is nhl ready next season.

At least Lou did not wait way too long, he made this signing and can now focus entirely on other things. I don´t want to read this board if Lou let s him walk and cannot replace him. At least with Bryce we know what we are getting.

i dont really want mottau on the team next year, maybe greene if he has a good camp but we need a top pairing d man

Lou is assured to have Martin-Oduya, White-Mottau and Salvador as his top 5...

Were screwed if Mike Mottau is getting regular minutes next season.

Right now we have: Martin, Oduya, White, Salvador, Mottau, Vish, Greene and Brookbank on 1-way level deals.

Cant help but feel a little bit negative about us getting another defenseman. :help:

Were screwed if Mike Mottau is getting regular minutes next season.

Right now we have: Martin, Oduya, White, Salvador, Mottau, Vish, Greene and Brookbank on 1-way level deals.

Cant help but feel a little bit negative about us getting another defenseman. :help:

We can send Mottau, Greene and Brookbank to Lowell. If they get taken on waivers, so what, if they're in Lowell making NHL money, it's not a lot anyway. Vishnevski, if he goes to Lowell, that is a big salary for the AHL for sure, but what the hell, not my money.

Were screwed if Mike Mottau is getting regular minutes next season.

Right now we have: Martin, Oduya, White, Salvador, Mottau, Vish, Greene and Brookbank on 1-way level deals.

Cant help but feel a little bit negative about us getting another defenseman. :help:Why? The latter four of those guys aren't NHL caliber.

A little higher than I would have liked, but I'm happy Lou got him signed.

We can send Mottau, Greene and Brookbank to Lowell. If they get taken on waivers, so what, if they're in Lowell making NHL money, it's not a lot anyway. Vishnevski, if he goes to Lowell, that is a big salary for the AHL for sure, but what the hell, not my money.

I'm not sure about Greene being sent down. When Lou was on NHL Live the only defensemen that he actually seemed high on were Martin, Oduya and Greene which seemed odd at the time.

Happy with the signing..


Just remember the garbage we had back there last season..

As for the $2.9.. Oh well, people get raises.. Just wait until later in the day

We can send Mottau, Greene and Brookbank to Lowell. If they get taken on waivers, so what, if they're in Lowell making NHL money, it's not a lot anyway. Vishnevski, if he goes to Lowell, that is a big salary for the AHL for sure, but what the hell, not my money.

I really dont know how the waivers system works, but surely its not that easy. Also I cant see why Lou would bother signing Mottau and Brookbank at all if his plan was to send them to Lowell all along....

Maybe a small payday as a thankyou for playing for us this year?

I really dont know how the waivers system works, but surely its not that easy. Also I cant see why Lou would bother signing Mottau and Brookbank at all if his plan was to send them to Lowell all along....

Maybe a small payday as a thankyou for playing for us this year?
Mottau and Brookbank would make Lowell a much better hockey team, which is good for development.

Mottau and Brookbank would make Lowell a much better hockey team, which is good for development.

And Greene could use some more development.

:amazed:

In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....In Lou I trust....

Yes I do:)

$ a bit high but if the signings go up from here then it's all good

Mottau and Brookbank would make Lowell a much better hockey team, which is good for development.

Sorry, I meant that if they end up in Lowell, will their salaries impact the NHL salary cap??

I realise its not alot of money, but you know....

Sorry, I meant that if they end up in Lowell, will their salaries impact the NHL salary cap??

I realise its not alot of money, but you know....
I don't believe so, but I'm not entirely sure. Matvichuk and McGillis' contracts didn't hit the cap, right?

Sorry, I meant that if they end up in Lowell, will their salaries impact the NHL salary cap??

I realise its not alot of money, but you know....

No, they'd come off the cap, though they'd have to clear waivers.

I don't believe so, but I'm not entirely sure. Matvichuk and McGillis' contracts didn't hit the cap, right?

I guess not, eitherway im not really fussed. We just have to add a top4 puckmover, have to.

Then use these guys for the 3rd pairing, they've shown they can handle at least that.

good deal, hes the best stay at home guy now that whitey is half blind.I wouldn't count Colin White out. He still brought some physicallity to the leftside last season.

SEASON|TEAM|GP|Hits|BkS
2005-06|NJD|73|145|199
2006-07|NJD|69|168|174
2007-08|NJD|57|106|73
BkS: Blocked Shots

White's vision in his injured will improve, or he will further adjust to limited vision in one eye.



Salvador is also a little unimpressive when it comes to racking up hits.
SEASON|TEAM|GP|Hits|BkS
2005-06|STL|46|46|121
2006-07| STL|64|73|157
2007-08| STL/NJD|64|75|104

However, he could be a good partner for Vishnevski on the 3rd pairing if Salvador can switch to the rightside. That would give some insurance in a good defensive-defenseman to cover on the occassions that Vishnevski fails an attempts to go for a big hit.

Otherwise, maybe Salvador can play his nateural left defenseman position and move Oduya to the rightside. Oduya doesn't seem right to me on the leftside, which is a position for stay-at-home defensemen.

The price per year was higher than I had hoped, but it's still cheaper than anyone available in free agency so I'm alright with the deal.

Now to go catch a big fish.

Bryce played very well until he suffered the foot injury.
I would preferred to see 3-years rather than 4, but he brings stability and I expect him to have a solid season. He's got the smarts and toughness we need back there.

OK.

So does this mean Lou is done trying to get us a quarterback for our PP? Or does he think we have all the right ingredients on the blueline?

If so, :shakehead - long year ahead...again.

NO NMC of ANY kind for Salvy!

OK.

So does this mean Lou is done trying to get us a quarterback for our PP? Or does he think we have all the right ingredients on the blueline?

If so, :shakehead - long year ahead...again.

His name is Brian Rolston, and for the price of 1 guy he'll cover our lack of depth at center and on the powerplay.

Eh, not too bad, better than having Motts, Brook and Vish. He's a solid stay-at-home guy, I feel Lou is going to go for an offensive d-man now.

they.ll be gone except vish, wheres he gonna go????

Lou must really like this guy.

Eh, not too bad, better than having Motts, Brook and Vish. He's a solid stay-at-home guy, I feel Lou is going to go for an offensive d-man now.

they.ll be gone except vish, wheres he gonna go???? plus he could be a serviceable 6th=7th man just not depended on as a 3-4 guy

hope this means lou is getting all these signings outta the way before noon so he doesnt have to worry about them :dunno:

His name is Brian Rolston, and for the price of 1 guy he'll cover our lack of depth at center and on the powerplay.

So your thinking is that we'll sign Rolston & let Pando walk, correct?

So your thinking is that we'll sign Rolston & let Pando walk, correct?

Pando was signed.

A bit much if you ask me, but lets see what happens now...

So your thinking is that we'll sign Rolston & let Pando walk, correct?

You don't think he could play on the 2nd line? I don't see how the two are that comparable.

60 seconds until we get hossa :sarcasm:

A little too much dough for him I think, but I can live with it.

No NTC = good signing.

That's the way I look at it.

I'm not that big a fan of Bryce Salvador, but for the bargain basement price of $2.9 million per year, coupled more importantly without the hindrance of any type of a NTC/NMC option, I'd say it was a smart contract by Lou.

...That is of course if it wasn't only posturing by Salvador's agent Sosa, who threw in the point about a NTC/NMC as leverage for his contract, knowing all the while that Salvador was not worth more than $3 million per season, let alone a NMC, and it's a win-win situation for Sosa, Bryce and Lou.

Especially Lou, so it could look like he backed away from the ridiculousness of a seemingly expensive contract with a no movement clause in favor of something that on the surface, appears to be a "steal".

A little too much dough for him I think, but I can live with it.

Hey, I would've like it lower too, but when you look at a guy like Colin White, who is a similar talent, making 3 million dollars per year, naturally he'd want something similar.

I like the signing. Welcome aboard Sal.

Hey, I would've like it lower too, but when you look at a guy like Colin White, who is a similar talent, making 3 million dollars per year, naturally he'd want something similar.

I like the signing. Welcome aboard Sal.

Well if that's the case, Brad Stuart could have been had just $900k more that what we just paid Bryce Salvador.

Well if that's the case, Brad Stuart could have been had just $900k more that what we just paid Bryce Salvador.

Stuart did not want to come to the East coast. I don't know how many times this has been mentioned on this site.

Stuart did not want to come to the East coast. I don't know how many times this has been mentioned on this site.

Yes, and the point was to show that maybe perhaps we really did or did not overpay for Bryce Salvador, regardless of giving him a NMC, if he even really wanted one in the first place. That remains to be seen.

Unless of course you consider Bryce Salvador comparable to Brad Stuart.

Stuart did not want to come to the East coast. I don't know how many times this has been mentioned on this site.

And without a doubt he took a discount to stay with Detriot.

So, with Commodore getting $3.75M, Campbell getting $7.1M, Jeff ****ing Finger getting $3.5M, who here seriously still has a problem with Bryce Salvador getting $2.9M?