Devils....Hossa.......nahhhhh.....but wait?

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 10:06 AM
Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello says he's going to take the same approach to unrestricted free agency he's always employed.

Judging by his signings from the past three summers, which included such unsuccessful leftovers as Karel Rachunek, Vladimir Malakhov, Dan McGillis and Alexander Mogilny, that's not very encouraging.

There are some indications, however, that Lamoriello will try to make a big splash after the free agent market opens at noon on Tuesday in an attempt to propel his team back into the Eastern Conference's elite.

The big fish would be right wing Marian Hossa.

Lamoriello tried to acquire him from Atlanta before the Feb. 26 trade deadline, but lost out to a late bid from Pittsburgh. Puck-moving defensemen such as Brian Campbell and Wade Redden also are expected to draw a lot of interest.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/devils/Pens_Hossa_might_be_Lous_wingman.html

Say whaaaaaaaaaaat? C'mon Lou, make it happen and you'll be my best friend ever on earth. 18 million in cap space.....even if we sign Hossa at 8, we'd have 10 million left for 5 players. Make it happen.

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 10:07 AM
I stopped reading after the first line.

britdevil
06-30-2008, 10:11 AM
Hossa, in Devils red? Naaaaaaah.

Would be pretty special if it did happen though.

Richer's Ghost
06-30-2008, 10:12 AM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/vagel117/funny/skills.jpg

Overtime98
06-30-2008, 10:13 AM
Sign Hossa and Redden.... that'll be awesome.

Dont waste the money and roster space on salvador!

Devils9789
06-30-2008, 10:13 AM
Don't ask me why, but I have a gut feeling Lou is gonna pitch hard for Campbell.

fIREnIcE
06-30-2008, 10:20 AM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s93/vagel117/funny/skills.jpg

gold love it

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 10:20 AM
Don't ask me why, but I have a gut feeling Lou is gonna pitch hard for Campbell.

And I can tell you, Soupy will listen. He's not the "big hockey market only" kind of guy. He just wants to play hockey, so if Lou gives him a smart, competitive offer.....he might make his way over here. Anything over 5 though, move on.

Michael Scott_*
06-30-2008, 10:24 AM
Ranger Fan not trying to troll or anything, but I'm hope you guys do get Hossa. Pittsburgh already has Malkin, and Crosby. And i think it will be a better Rivalry if each team can average more than 1 goal per game. (im also saying the rangers cant score so dont get mad at me)

HBK27
06-30-2008, 10:24 AM
I have no doubt that Lou's going to make a pitch for at least one of the top UFA's like Hossa or Campbell. From the interviews I've been hearing he's just as sick of losing in the playoffs as we are and realizes some changes need to be made. I also don't think he would've tried to trade for Hossa last year if he didn't intend to try to sign him to a new deal, so it makes sense he'd go after him now. Guess it all depends on what other offers are out there & if he can convince someone to come to NJ.

britdevil
06-30-2008, 10:24 AM
Ranger Fan not trying to troll or anything, but I'm hope you guys do get Hossa. Pittsburgh already has Malkin, and Crosby. And i think it will be a better Rivalry if each team can average more than 1 goal per game. (im also saying the rangers cant score so dont get mad at me)

Can I shake your hand? :handclap:

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
06-30-2008, 10:26 AM
I had a dream that Lou signed Hossa and Redden. After landing Hossa, Lou traded Gionta to Chicago for Havlat... and then I woke up :cry:

fIREnIcE
06-30-2008, 10:26 AM
Sign Hossa and Redden.... that'll be awesome.

Dont waste the money and roster space on salvador!

i dunno about that id rather sign Hossa who would certainly address our scoring problem.

If pando and brylin walk id look at gratton and dupuis. We also need at least two d men at the price we would be spending on redden, sal would be a great one or a combo of berard and Stuart(in det he showed he can play devils hockey i think we could land them both for 8. maybe sal and one of the other two, i have a feeling our scrubs from last year will be waived, traded , and playin in lowell.

I made a nice list of some great options on our board on "news around the league" check it out post 371

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 10:26 AM
I have no doubt that Lou's going to make a pitch for at least one of the top UFA's like Hossa or Campbell. From the interviews I've been hearing he's just as sick of losing in the playoffs as we are and realizes some changes need to be made. I also don't think he would've tried to trade for Hossa last year if he didn't intend to try to sign him to a new deal, so it makes sense he'd go after him now. Guess it all depends on what other offers are out there & if he can convince someone to come to NJ.

Even if he does go after Hossa and loses, I doubt we find out. Plus, if we can sign him, I'll be happy that we didn't trade for him, because we keep our assets and get him anyways.

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 10:26 AM
Yea, I highly doubt this would ever happen. But can you imagine???

fIREnIcE
06-30-2008, 10:27 AM
I had a dream that Lou signed Hossa and Redden. After landing Hossa, Lou traded Gionta to Chicago for Havlat... and then I woke up :cry:

i think havlat slipped you some morphine from all his injuries id stay away from him. i know he be great but for two months and thats it

britdevil
06-30-2008, 10:28 AM
Lou should stay miles away from Stuart, Berard, Gratton and Dupuis. Miles and miles away.

HBK27
06-30-2008, 10:30 AM
Even if he does go after Hossa and loses, I doubt we find out. Plus, if we can sign him, I'll be happy that we didn't trade for him, because we keep our assets and get him anyways.

Exactly...Lou could make a very solid pitch for him & lose, but we wouldn't hear about it and you'd have people on these boards complaining about Lou doing nothing but going after grinders & average players.

In the past, Lou had to worry mainly about stopping all of the Devils talent from leaving vs. looking at outside UFA's. I think it's different now & Lou will surprise a lot of people.

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 10:30 AM
Brylin, Pandolfo and Salvador walk.

In comes Hossa, Redden and Holik.

Parise-Elias-Hossa
Bergfors-Zajac-Gionta
Zubrus-Madden-Langenbrunner
Rupp-Holik-Clarkson

Redden-Martin
Oduya-White
Corrente-Mottau

Defense still leaves something to be desired. Might look at adding two top 4 defenseman and a lesser forward.

Say Campbell(6), Redden(6) and Naslund(3)

Parise-Elias-Naslund
Bergfors-Zajac-Gionta
Pandolfo-Madden-Langenbrunner
Zubrus-Rupp-Clarkson

Redden-Martin
Campbell-White
Oduya-Corrente

So many possibilities, and nothing will happen.

sousuffer
06-30-2008, 10:46 AM
Rangers fan here (die-hard Devils fan for a wife :) so I watch almost every game from both teams)...I don't think the defense is your primary issue. The fact is, as long as Marty is back there, you guys will give up 0, 1 or 2 goals in the majority of your games. The fact is, your record when scoring 3 goals was outstanding, and you record when scoring 2 was very strong. Besides getting shut out 11 times (I'm sure you know that), you guys also scored 1 in quite a few games. If you could got someone like Hossa who may be able to bring you from 1 goal to 2 goals in 80% of those games (and 2 goals to the magic 3 mark), you guys would take the #1 seed in the conference easily. Whether that equals Stanley Cup or not, who knows, but your power play would improve exponentially, which was a huge part of your problem. Your defense, as bad as it looks, is helped by the defense played by your forwards and by Marty, so I think that should be the last thing addressed. Anyway, here's hoping to another nasty Rangers-Devils rivalry with a few new faces in 2009. I already hate Hossa anyway. :)

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 10:49 AM
Sheesh, what's with these Rangers fans coming in here and being civil?! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?! hahaha

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 10:49 AM
I really wish this wasn't posted. I am now getting my hopes up for absolutely nothing.

Xx MadPnoy86 xX
06-30-2008, 11:09 AM
Haha I actually too had a dream about signing Hossa but we also traded for Bouwmeester. :D

We can only dream....right?

forceten
06-30-2008, 11:12 AM
I really wish this wasn't posted. I am now getting my hopes up for absolutely nothing.

+1

I sort of feel the same way. Obviously this is the point of fan forums but I really want to see us do something ... the act of doing something - signing a big ticket player, and giving roster spots to maybe 2 rookies if they earn it - could shake up the team a bit and get the returning guys's juices flowing a bit...

BigBully4
06-30-2008, 11:20 AM
It's chubber city for me if this happens.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
06-30-2008, 11:32 AM
i think havlat slipped you some morphine from all his injuries id stay away from him. i know he be great but for two months and thats it

This is the reasoning behind the Havalt Vs Gionta proposal...

Gionta can't create scoring chances on his own and needs a playmaking center to be productive, wich we don't have. Havlat will problably get injured but will end up with the same amount of points as Gio and can open some space on the ice for his linemates because HE CAN CREATE HIS OWN SCORING CHANCES.

DevFan-RU-
06-30-2008, 11:36 AM
You fools! Lou is doing this to throw everyone's attention from the real signing tomorrow...

...re-signing Bryce Salvador!

But we know Lou... he will cancel trades upon hearing rumor of them.

britdevil
06-30-2008, 11:39 AM
You fools! Lou is doing this to throw everyone's attention from the real signing tomorrow...

...re-signing Bryce Salvador!

But we know Lou... he will cancel trades upon hearing rumor of them.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/nathiscool/funny_cat_pictures_092.jpg

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
06-30-2008, 11:41 AM
You fools! Lou is doing this to throw everyone's attention from the real signing tomorrow...

...re-signing Bryce Salvador!

But we know Lou... he will cancel trades upon hearing rumor of them.

We have to do the opposite and say " &uck Hossa, I heard that Lou was going hard after Bryce Salvador and Andre Roy!!!".

Fixed ;)

jkrdevil
06-30-2008, 12:00 PM
Exactly...Lou could make a very solid pitch for him & lose, but we wouldn't hear about it and you'd have people on these boards complaining about Lou doing nothing but going after grinders & average players.

In the past, Lou had to worry mainly about stopping all of the Devils talent from leaving vs. looking at outside UFA's. I think it's different now & Lou will surprise a lot of people.

And even in some of those years they did make a pitch to a big Free Agent. If I remember correctly they had won of the highest bids for Chara summers ago but ended up losing out to Boston for him and they ended up re-signing Elias later that night.

Americans
06-30-2008, 12:21 PM
Sign Hossa and Redden.... that'll be awesome.

Dont waste the money and roster space on salvador!


agree :)

BenedictGomez
06-30-2008, 12:25 PM
I am now getting my hopes up for absolutely nothing.


Really? I have virtually no expectations. Years of being a Devils fan have conditioned me to think like that.

CMac17
06-30-2008, 12:29 PM
Lou should stay miles away from Stuart, Berard, Gratton and Dupuis. Miles and miles away.

(insert eye-related joke about a White-Berard pairing here)

Big#D
06-30-2008, 12:32 PM
Really? I have virtually no expectations. Years of being a Devils fan have conditioned me to think like that.

I agree. I've learned that if there is one thing to expect from the Devils is to not know how they are going play the next season, next month or even the next game.

There are years when I thought the team would really do well (1996) only to not do anything. There are others when I expect the team to be mediocre (2003) only to do really well.

Even within a season, who could know when the team is going to go on a ten game winning streak or a ten game losing streak. I've learned just to enjoy the hockey as it comes game by game, shift by shift.

Drewr15
06-30-2008, 12:36 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/nathiscool/funny_cat_pictures_092.jpg


To funny.

I expect Lou to do something. He is rarely idle in all honesty, its just whether its the right moves or the ones we are hoping for. I have no doubt he will do something though.

CMac17
06-30-2008, 12:37 PM
Even within a season, who could know when the team is going to go on a ten game winning streak or a ten game losing streak. I've learned just to enjoy the hockey as it comes game by game, shift by shift.

It is definitely true that Devils fans have a unique outlook on hockey overall. And when they're doing well, it's almost a shield from the way the other teams are making deals and such... every game/series has seemed like it could go either way to me for the past 20 years. Even with 3 mins to go in a deciding game 4 or 5...

I wonder if fans of other teams feel the same way?

HatTrick89
06-30-2008, 12:40 PM
Sign Hossa and Redden?!? That would be amazing! But with guys like Ryan Malone getting 4.5 mil over 7 years and Jeff Carter getting 5 mil I have a bad feeling Redden will cost at least 7 million, Hossa 9 million, Campbell 7.5 milion...Naslund could probably get 4.5 million...I just hope the Pens don't resign Hossa...They don't seem to want to overpay people at all (sound like someone we know) yet they basically have half of a team and will have to get the other half through free agency...We on the other hand have a full team and now just need to upgrade...Hossa and Redden would be awesome...In my opinion, Hossa and Redden > Gomez and Rafalski

MissionHockey
06-30-2008, 12:40 PM
I wonder what Lou offered to try to get Hossa? I doubt he'd give up Parise when he was in the middle of a playoff chase. Although, I'm also pretty sure that we wouldn't have Tedenby today if we acquired Hossa in February.

SCOTTIESTEVENS
06-30-2008, 01:01 PM
It is definitely true that Devils fans have a unique outlook on hockey overall. And when they're doing well, it's almost a shield from the way the other teams are making deals and such... every game/series has seemed like it could go either way to me for the past 20 years. Even with 3 mins to go in a deciding game 4 or 5...

I wonder if fans of other teams feel the same way?
This **** is getting deep! I think it is more apparent now that we have drifted from out "stranglehold" style of hockey. We fans are not used to the uncertainty and ups and downs, even though its been a good 3-4 years.. It's a tough topic to tackle (toungue twister (yet another 2 T's))

åboriginal
06-30-2008, 01:06 PM
sign hossa
sign näslund
sign campbell
trade gio for pitkänen

well....?

...wait too expensive?.....then get rid of dead weight

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 01:08 PM
sign hossa
sign näslund
sign campbell
trade gio for pitkänen

well....?

...wait too expensive?.....then get rid of dead weight

Say No to Näslund.

fIREnIcE
06-30-2008, 01:08 PM
Lou should stay miles away from Stuart, Berard, Gratton and Dupuis. Miles and miles away.

I couldnt disagree more, i think brit you an ace of a poster and i really respect you but just hear me out, i posted this on the liles board when people were *****ing about giving him 4 mil for young great skating d-man, who yes had a bad year but will bounce back, i wish we got him....anyways i feel its very relevant, i just added the things in red:

Originally Posted by fIREnIcE
At first i was going to quote many posters but in btter judgement at at the risk of making people feel uneducated in the world of finance BUT i really hate it when other posters attack someone but i cant help it here where have you been the last few seasons since the lockout? Do you remeber Blake getting almost max, McCabe getting 5+,Aucoin getting 4+, Sarich almost 4, McGillis at 3, even 7th dmen are making over a mill unless they are in ther sthe list can go on forever and i just dnt want to pick on Gm's its the g-damn market(fowards and d-men alike look at what jason Blake and Feasters 3 7 million dollar babies, play on words they are a far cry from babies) Now this will get away from the topic of money but it to me money is irellivant(sp) its about building a team, not always about the money, yes you will get burned if spend it unwisely but you will get burned at anything in life if you do that!!!

Trust me in this league now all the players are "overpayed." unforchunatley teams just get into bidding wars and you can Quote me on this***TEAMS THAT WIN THE STANLEY CUP CONSIST OF:
*a group of young budding stars who made the team and are in their first entry level contract (Bergfors(yes he will break out this year, Clarkson(gonna be a tucker lemuiex type player by the end of the season his confidence was awesome everyone was calling for his head come playoff time with a upporting cast=$$$), Corrente(will not get Steven type minutesbut will bring that NASTY DEVIL BACK i think he will put up some points with the right players too)
*one to three Elite players some who have taken a "HOME TEAM DISCOUNT" MARTY, *HOSSA, ELIAS CUSP GIONTA PARISE
*4-5 players that completly shock the NHL(and their teams) on how well preformed, usually in the second or third contract. MARTIN PARISE ZAJAC GREENE(he will with a better defence and will be able to hide behing the "curtain" of better players i really think he makes it even starting as a seventh he will be a top 6 by theh end of the year, lets faced we rushed him after a good call up in 06
*An average Goalie that is playing absolutley great, well beyond great! (besides Marty and Roy common, Boulin, Ward, Osgood, Belfour/Hasek were still good)****MARTY NUFF SAID
*The rest of the team is role players that go in there everynight and do their job EXCELLENTLY, grinders grind, energy guys provide energy, pests are pest, and shut down guys shut down fowards and d-men alike! MADDEN ZUBRUS LANGS ONE OF SIGNINGS CAUSE YOU KNOW LOU IS GOING TO GET ONE OF THESE GUYS
*And last but not least not the 1 and 2 D-men but the rest of the D-corps play solid sound hockey, Stay at home guys do their job and Two way guys provide their offense and also stray away from the stuff they did during the offseason and think D first goals/helpers later. WELL SEE WHO WE SIGN BUT MARTIN AND GREENE HOPEFULLY STUART AND PITKANEN/BOYLE


Parise-Elias-Hossa No Hossa then Vrbrata,Stillman,Tucker,Fedatanko,Vasicek,Satan
Parise-Zajac-One of above as well
Zubrus-Madden-Langenbrunner
Clarkson-Gratton/Dupuis-Bergfors others brown holik but id rather the other two
Rupp Vrana and possibly rotating 4th like last year

Remeber 03 the key to our success was our immense depth so have to get back to that the names i threw out are not all that insane and think especially the oil and bolts with all the cash their spending LETS POUNCE LOU!

AS FAR AS THE D DEMO IT
Pitkanen/Boyle-Martin
Stuart-Greene
Smith-Corrente as insurance i would look into kallihnen tillinder kopoka
Vish

*I think White, Gio and a second for pitkanen and Pouliotor O'marra but they would have to throwin a a pick....why, because they have to many puck moving dmen and smid waiting in the wings, yes they are taking on salary but they get a little more scoring which they need so do we but gio is just not the answer here. Also said it before Jump on Boyle NOW if you can the UFA crop of his caliber is not going to come cheap
*Mattau, Oduya and Brookbank wont be here either in Lowell or waived, Vish has no trade value and he could be useful like Greene when he is not relied on as a 3rd d-man

It all comes down to building that dynamic team with all of those things. Detroit, The Devils and Avs have been doing it for years. Drafting, Finding players from overseas, and grooming players all go into the equation as well, if you were ever looking for the recipe to winning a Cup there it is! Look at all the teams that have won it since 95 and here is the secret maybe Indys looking for it for some teams, even Carolina and Tampa followed this and they were certainly not the most talented in their playoff years, sorry to the fans if that offens you but, hey you still got the banner

It seems that every player signed gets too much and too many years, well guess what THIS IS THE NEW NHL. I say its a great deal for both parties considering the market, wheres trots been, there are a lot of great posters here(too many to name) please get the message across to many of these guys(I hope most of you are 14 and just do not know any better). But please stop with the CONCERN WITH MONEY unless its max or really out there no one is goin to be a bargain when others are getting paid. So please let the season play out maybe youll be surprised and also there have been players that have outpreformed their contract thats all im saying!

åboriginal
06-30-2008, 01:11 PM
Say No to Näslund.

he is a gamble, ill give u that. i just woke up. no coffee to get my brains woking. but im a card player, and im willing to take a gamble with him for a year or 2 at the right(low) price.

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 01:19 PM
I couldnt disagree more, i think brit you an ace of a poster and i really respect you but just hear me out, i posted this on the liles board when people were *****ing about giving him 4 mil for young great skating d-man, who yes had a bad year but will bounce back, i wish we got him....anyways i feel its very relevant, i just added the things in red:

Originally Posted by fIREnIcE
At first i was going to quote many posters but in btter judgement at at the risk of making people feel uneducated in the world of finance BUT i really hate it when other posters attack someone but i cant help it here where have you been the last few seasons since the lockout? Do you remeber Blake getting almost max, McCabe getting 5+,Aucoin getting 4+, Sarich almost 4, McGillis at 3, even 7th dmen are making over a mill unless they are in ther sthe list can go on forever and i just dnt want to pick on Gm's its the g-damn market(fowards and d-men alike look at what jason Blake and Feasters 3 7 million dollar babies, play on words they are a far cry from babies) Now this will get away from the topic of money but it to me money is irellivant(sp) its about building a team, not always about the money, yes you will get burned if spend it unwisely but you will get burned at anything in life if you do that!!!

Trust me in this league now all the players are "overpayed." unforchunatley teams just get into bidding wars and you can Quote me on this***TEAMS THAT WIN THE STANLEY CUP CONSIST OF:
*a group of young budding stars who made the team and are in their first entry level contract (Bergfors(yes he will break out this year, Clarkson(gonna be a tucker lemuiex type player by the end of the season his confidence was awesome everyone was calling for his head come playoff time with a upporting cast=$$$), Corrente(will not get Steven type minutesbut will bring that NASTY DEVIL BACK i think he will put up some points with the right players too)
*one to three Elite players some who have taken a "HOME TEAM DISCOUNT" MARTY, *HOSSA, ELIAS CUSP GIONTA PARISE
*4-5 players that completly shock the NHL(and their teams) on how well preformed, usually in the second or third contract. MARTIN PARISE ZAJAC GREENE(he will with a better defence and will be able to hide behing the "curtain" of better players i really think he makes it even starting as a seventh he will be a top 6 by theh end of the year, lets faced we rushed him after a good call up in 06
*An average Goalie that is playing absolutley great, well beyond great! (besides Marty and Roy common, Boulin, Ward, Osgood, Belfour/Hasek were still good)****MARTY NUFF SAID
*The rest of the team is role players that go in there everynight and do their job EXCELLENTLY, grinders grind, energy guys provide energy, pests are pest, and shut down guys shut down fowards and d-men alike! MADDEN ZUBRUS LANGS ONE OF SIGNINGS CAUSE YOU KNOW LOU IS GOING TO GET ONE OF THESE GUYS
*And last but not least not the 1 and 2 D-men but the rest of the D-corps play solid sound hockey, Stay at home guys do their job and Two way guys provide their offense and also stray away from the stuff they did during the offseason and think D first goals/helpers later. WELL SEE WHO WE SIGN BUT MARTIN AND GREENE HOPEFULLY STUART AND PITKANEN/BOYLE


Parise-Elias-Hossa No Hossa then Vrbrata,Stillman,Tucker,Fedatanko,Vasicek,Satan
Parise-Zajac-One of above as well
Zubrus-Madden-Langenbrunner
Clarkson-Gratton/Dupuis-Bergfors others brown holik but id rather the other two
Rupp Vrana and possibly rotating 4th like last year

Remeber 03 the key to our success was our immense depth so have to get back to that the names i threw out are not all that insane and think especially the oil and bolts with all the cash their spending LETS POUNCE LOU!

AS FAR AS THE D DEMO IT
Pitkanen/Boyle-Martin
Stuart-Greene
Smith-Corrente as insurance i would look into kallihnen tillinder kopoka
Vish

*I think White, Gio and a second for pitkanen and Pouliotor O'marra but they would have to throwin a a pick....why, because they have to many puck moving dmen and smid waiting in the wings, yes they are taking on salary but they get a little more scoring which they need so do we but gio is just not the answer here. Also said it before Jump on Boyle NOW if you can the UFA crop of his caliber is not going to come cheap
*Mattau, Oduya and Brookbank wont be here either in Lowell or waived, Vish has no trade value and he could be useful like Greene when he is not relied on as a 3rd d-man

It all comes down to building that dynamic team with all of those things. Detroit, The Devils and Avs have been doing it for years. Drafting, Finding players from overseas, and grooming players all go into the equation as well, if you were ever looking for the recipe to winning a Cup there it is! Look at all the teams that have won it since 95 and here is the secret maybe Indys looking for it for some teams, even Carolina and Tampa followed this and they were certainly not the most talented in their playoff years, sorry to the fans if that offens you but, hey you still got the banner

It seems that every player signed gets too much and too many years, well guess what THIS IS THE NEW NHL. I say its a great deal for both parties considering the market, wheres trots been, there are a lot of great posters here(too many to name) please get the message across to many of these guys(I hope most of you are 14 and just do not know any better). But please stop with the CONCERN WITH MONEY unless its max or really out there no one is goin to be a bargain when others are getting paid. So please let the season play out maybe youll be surprised and also there have been players that have outpreformed their contract thats all im saying!

Lou pretty much said on more than one occasion that Bergfors and Vrana weren't called up because they didn't want to play them on the 3rd/4th line.

britdevil
06-30-2008, 01:21 PM
Lou pretty much said on more than one occasion that Bergfors and Vrana weren't called up because they didn't want to play them on the 3rd/4th line.

"And thats the bottom line, coz Stone Cold said so!"

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 01:22 PM
he is a gamble, ill give u that. i just woke up. no coffee to get my brains woking. but im a card player, and im willing to take a gamble with him for a year or 2 at the right(low) price.

I just want some room in the top 6 to bring up Bergfors, and possibly Vrana.

Semak20
06-30-2008, 01:24 PM
So please let the season play out maybe youll be surprised and also there have been players that have outpreformed their contract thats all im saying!

I'm glad you're posting more often again these days F&I:handclap:

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drg300/g367/g36795wr7xh.jpg

he is a gamble, ill give u that. i just woke up. no coffee to get my brains woking. but im a card player, and im willing to take a gamble with him for a year or 2 at the right(low) price.

Ilike Naslund as a plan "C".

Semak20
06-30-2008, 01:26 PM
I just want some room in the top 6 to bring up Bergfors, and possibly Vrana.

...but does the drafting of Tedenby mean the end of Bergfors? In a trade perhaps?

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 01:28 PM
...but does the drafting of Tedenby mean the end of Bergfors? In a trade perhaps?

Why would it? Bergfors isn't a bust yet, but if he doesn't make it to the NHL next season, he's pretty much done for.

forceten
06-30-2008, 01:31 PM
Re Bergfors and Vrana - Lou has also said it might be time to get some of the kids some playing time. I can't see anyone other then them being penciled in for a shot... Bergfors made the team out of camp.. We need some shake up...

But to get both of them in, AND sign a FA? There's got to be a trade in between the lines somewhere.

Semak20
06-30-2008, 01:35 PM
Why would it? Bergfors isn't a bust yet, but if he doesn't make it to the NHL next season, he's pretty much done for.

Don't think so either, just more fuel for the fire;) I want to give the kids a chance too.

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 01:43 PM
And I can tell you, Soupy will listen. He's not the "big hockey market only" kind of guy. He just wants to play hockey, so if Lou gives him a smart, competitive offer.....he might make his way over here. Anything over 5 though, move on.

I'd be pretty happy if we got Campbell. He's like Rafalski except he doesn't get knocked down when someone coughs in his direction.

Jason MacIsaac
06-30-2008, 01:46 PM
Swedish prospects are late bloomers, Robert Nillson finally came into his own last season.

HatTrick89
06-30-2008, 01:51 PM
Hey, who has ESPN Insider??? Look at this! http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/features/rumors?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnhl %2ffeatures%2frumors

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 01:53 PM
Hey, who ESPN Insider??? Look at this!!! http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/features/rumors?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnhl %2ffeatures%2frumors

They're probably referencing Gulitti's article.

Semak20
06-30-2008, 01:54 PM
Hey, who has ESPN Insider??? Look at this! http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/features/rumors?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnhl %2ffeatures%2frumors

Meh, it's still ESPN.

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 01:54 PM
Hey, who has ESPN Insider??? Look at this! http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/features/rumors?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnhl %2ffeatures%2frumors

It's probably the same **** you can read in local papers and on TFP for free. ESPN insider is not worth a dime.

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 01:56 PM
It's probably the same **** you can read in local papers and on TFP for free. ESPN insider is not worth a dime.

Yea, they just go "Larry Brooks of the NY Post said....". It's like a paid version of Spector's.

HatTrick89
06-30-2008, 01:58 PM
They're probably referencing Gulitti's article.

Damn...it'd still be interesting to read though...I just don't want to pay for ESPN insider though...I trust ESPN more though than Eklund and anything on hockeybuzz

ziggyluc
06-30-2008, 02:34 PM
Oh no! My hopes are up. This can only mean one thing. They're going to get crushed. Although if this does happen and the Devils sign Hossa I will be ecstatic.

Super Sniper Cele
06-30-2008, 02:37 PM
You guys need Campbell a lot more than you need Hossa.

Let us keep our susperstar winger. :nod:

CMac17
06-30-2008, 02:41 PM
You guys need Campbell a lot more than you need Hossa.

Let us keep our susperstar winger. :nod:

Kotalik? Oh wait you're from Pitt... but the avatar... but the location... I .. um... *brain explodes*

...I would do jumping jacks for Campbell or Hossa though :)

Clarkson Falls Down
06-30-2008, 02:44 PM
I'll be a very happy fan if we can land Hossa tomorrow. The jersey order will be sent in the next day.

Harrison Ford
06-30-2008, 02:45 PM
Don't ask me why, but I have a gut feeling Lou is gonna pitch hard for Campbell.

also hes kind of a combination of what every wants. It always seems like half of everyone thinks offense is the problem, and the other half think defense is the problem.

well this guy can do both. i think lou needs this kind of player.

Devils Mike
06-30-2008, 02:52 PM
Why would Lou go for Jason smith? Could this be a possible replacement for Salvador/Vishnevski?

Marv4Life
06-30-2008, 02:56 PM
You guys need Campbell a lot more than you need Hossa.

Let us keep our susperstar winger.

After losing Roberts and Malone and this Malkin stuff I wouldn't surprise me at the least if Hossa stayed.

Devilswede
06-30-2008, 03:17 PM
Watching a bunch of 2:nd tier players getting superstar money probably means that Lou won't do anything significantly. He'll maybe re-sign our own players..and might add someone for depth, but I think that will be about it....

I won't get my hopes up too high.....that way I won't get disappointed.....

fIREnIcE
06-30-2008, 03:29 PM
I'm glad you're posting more often again these days F&I:handclap:

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drg300/g367/g36795wr7xh.jpg



Ilike Naslund as a plan "C".

thanks semak, i appreciate it, i just have a feeling after 3 years of these bad signings, no activity, and medicore trading we really gotta change our approach....the Boyle and Pitkanen trades would rock tonite it woul be great to steal the limelight for once other than winning the cup(IMNOT COMPLAINING :naughty:)

You get your slingbox for this upcoming season yet, and you can get the UFA SHOW on line @ tsn.ca but i dunno what time it would be in japanprob like 3am right

adzrne7
06-30-2008, 03:49 PM
Parise - Elias - Bergfors
Zubrus - Zajac - Hossa
Pandolfo - Madden - Langenbrunner
Rupp - Vrana - Clarkson

Martin - Oduya
White - Campbell
Corrente -Greene

Devils9789
06-30-2008, 03:51 PM
Parise - Elias - Bergfors
Zubrus - Zajac - Hossa
Pandolfo - Madden - Langenbrunner
Rupp - Vrana - Clarkson

Martin - Oduya
White - Campbell
Corrente -Greene

If we sign Hossa, it sure as hell isn't gonna be for the 2nd line.

Richer's Ghost
06-30-2008, 03:52 PM
Parise - Elias - Bergfors
Zubrus - Zajac - Hossa
Pandolfo - Madden - Langenbrunner
Rupp - Vrana - Clarkson

Martin - Oduya
White - Campbell
Corrente -Greene

what did we get for Gio?

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 03:55 PM
If we sign Hossa, it sure as hell isn't gonna be for the 2nd line.

I wouldn't want him on the second line for the simple fact that he would greatly boost Zajac's production and force Lou to give him more money than he deserves.

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 03:58 PM
what did we get for Gio?

http://perso.orange.fr/kwik-e-simpsons/wallpapers/nelson-1024x768.gif

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 03:59 PM
what did we get for Gio?

Maybe trade for a pick to clear some cap room...

Richer's Ghost
06-30-2008, 04:01 PM
Maybe trade for a pick to clear some cap room...

for the 17 million combined for Hossa and Campbell? :sarcasm:

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 04:18 PM
Insider just talks about the Gulitti article, I'm sure of it. Hossa wears 18, guess that means Brylin will be decided on after Hossa makes his decision :sarcasm:

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 04:19 PM
Insider just talks about the Gulitti article, I'm sure of it. Hossa wears 18, guess that means Brylin will be decided on after Hossa makes his decision :sarcasm:

winnar.

I was thinking the same thing.


Either way, I'll miss Sarge. He was always a trooper.

åboriginal
06-30-2008, 04:19 PM
im just waiting to read at 12:01 that the rangers sign hossa

CMac17
06-30-2008, 04:27 PM
im just waiting to read at 12:01 that the rangers sign hossa

I'm hoping it's 11:59 and a "rest of Atlantic Division compensation structure" is put in place :naughty:

Jiri Bicek
06-30-2008, 04:30 PM
im just waiting to read at 12:01 that the rangers sign hossa

Or have Linda 'horse mouth' Cohn announce it during live baseball highlights on SportsCenter.... Like she did last year with Scott Gomez

cjmurph
06-30-2008, 04:36 PM
Gulitti gets the Record some national exposure and 4 or 5 times more hits on their website than usual...mission accomplished. There's still no chance of the Devils signing Hossa.

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 04:38 PM
Or have Linda 'horse mouth' Cohn announce it during live baseball highlights on SportsCenter.... Like she did last year with Scott Gomez

I hate that ****ing ****. Not only is she a ****** sportscaster but she's such a ****ing homer it's pathetic.

"ohhhhh Henrik Lundqvist is a 3 time Vezina nominee."

she fails to mention he received 13 points and almost couldn't have been further from actually winning it.

I'd be willing to bet good money Tomas Vokoun would have garnered more points than he did.

ALine9900
06-30-2008, 04:39 PM
Gulitti gets the Record some national exposure and 4 or 5 times more hits on their website than usual...mission accomplished. There's still no chance of the Devils signing Hossa.

He's a free agent, and we have the space to sign him.

åboriginal
06-30-2008, 04:41 PM
Or have Linda 'horse mouth' Cohn announce it during live baseball highlights on SportsCenter.... Like she did last year with Scott Gomez

well....i suppose its better than hearing it from linda tripp
http://www.hogwild.net/images/Misc/john.goodman-linda.tripp.jpg

devsfan8
06-30-2008, 04:41 PM
There's still no chance of the Devils signing Hossa.

How do you figure????

åboriginal
06-30-2008, 04:43 PM
I hate that ****ing ****. Not only is she a ****** sportscaster but she's such a ****ing homer it's pathetic.

"ohhhhh Henrik Lundqvist is a 3 time Vezina nominee."

she fails to mention he received 13 points and almost couldn't have been further from actually winning it.

I'd be willing to bet good money Tomas Vokoun would have garnered more points than he did.

http://www.votermedia.org/images/bribe.jpg

Harrison Ford
06-30-2008, 04:45 PM
i have feeling that lou is going to get him. the kool aid is running through my veins.

åboriginal
06-30-2008, 04:46 PM
i have feeling that lou is going to get him. the kool aid is running through my veins.

hope ur right
http://www.digitalbricabrac.com/gifs/koolaidman.gif

wow im full of useless today:help:

4check22
06-30-2008, 04:48 PM
Lou pretty much said on more than one occasion that Bergfors and Vrana weren't called up because they didn't want to play them on the 3rd/4th line.
Yeah, and Lou wanted Bergfors to continue lighting it up down in Lowell. 3 years of consistantly declining scoring in the AHL = NHL flop. Trade him.

4check22
06-30-2008, 04:53 PM
We are talking about Marcel Hossa, right? I mean, this is Lou Lamoriello: 3rd-line role players are what we need.

Harrison Ford
06-30-2008, 05:03 PM
We are talking about Marcel Hossa, right? I mean, this is Lou Lamoriello: 3rd-line role players are what we need.

what other hossa is there to talk about? :sarcasm:

HBK27
06-30-2008, 05:05 PM
Gulitti gets the Record some national exposure and 4 or 5 times more hits on their website than usual...mission accomplished. There's still no chance of the Devils signing Hossa.

Right...that's just some elaborate plan by Gulitti to drive some temporary hits to his website. :shakehead

Did the Devils try to trade for Hossa? Yes
Do they have a glaring need for a top 6 scorer? Yes
Do they have the cap room to sign a top UFA? Yes

Why is it so ****ing hard to fathom that Lou will at the very least make a competitive offer?

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:05 PM
Dude, it's good to see another Lemieux fan on this site. I know there are others who think he was pretty good, but only a few of us know the truth: Jesus did come back for a while, and he used the name Claude Lemieux as his alias.

Gunnar Stahl 30
06-30-2008, 05:06 PM
lou came close to getting him at the trade deadline so i dont see why he wont try and sign him, if there was ever a player that fit our team he would be it

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:09 PM
Right...that's just some elaborate plan by Gulitti to drive some temporary hits to his website. :shakehead

Did the Devils try to trade for Hossa? Yes
Do they have a glaring need for a top 6 scorer? Yes
Do they have the cap room to sign a top UFA? Yes

Why is it so ****ing hard to fathom that Lou will at the very least make a competitive offer?
I think a few of us are just not used to Lou going after talent that still has a semblance of a career left in it. I honestly thought Lou was going to throw $5 million at Gary Roberts or lull Chinachin Lindros out of retirement with a $35 million/5 years deal.

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 05:09 PM
Dude, it's good to see another Lemieux fan on this site. I know there are others who think he was pretty good, but only a few of us know the truth: Jesus did come back for a while, and he used the name Claude Lemieux as his alias.

If Jesus was anything like Claude Lemieux he'd be my kind of guy. But I have a hard time believing Claude made tables and would actually let someone beat the piss out of him and nail him onto something. Actually, my guess is, he'd be the guy doing it. See: Chris Draper getting it good and hard. :handclap:

bense27
06-30-2008, 05:10 PM
So many possibilities, and nothing will happen.

:handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap: :handclap:

bense27
06-30-2008, 05:11 PM
He's a free agent, and we have the space to sign him.

yes, but nobody wants to play in New Jersey.

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:12 PM
If Jesus was anything like Claude Lemieux he'd be my kind of guy. But I have a hard time believing Claude made tables and would actually let someone beat the piss out of him and nail him onto something. Actually, my guess is, he'd be the guy doing it. See: Chris Draper getting it good and hard. :handclap:
You got it all wrong. Jesus (I mean Claude) allowed those soldiers to beat him to a pulp in a classic turtle move. That's the mantra, baby: take it for a while, then send 'em all to hell later on. Brilliant strategy on Claude (I mean Christ's) part.

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 05:12 PM
yes, but nobody wants to play in New Jersey.

Zubrus did.

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:13 PM
Zubrus did.
Did what? Did he even play?

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 05:19 PM
Did what? Did he even play?

Yeah and if he had any support, we'd probably have played farther. He was a monster. I'd actually put him and Hossa (if he signs) on a line together. In the offensive zone they'd be unstoppable.

Zubrus-Elias-Hossa
Parise-Zajac-Bergfors

ALine9900
06-30-2008, 05:21 PM
Yeah and if he had any support, we'd probably have played farther. He was a monster. I'd actually put him and Hossa (if he signs) on a line together. In the offensive zone they'd be unstoppable.

Zubrus-Elias-Hossa
Parise-Zajac-Bergfors

Puck on a string?

I don't know how well Bergfors will work with Zach and Travis but that could be a nice line also.

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:22 PM
Yeah and if he had any support, we'd probably have played farther. He was a monster. I'd actually put him and Hossa (if he signs) on a line together. In the offensive zone they'd be unstoppable.

Zubrus-Elias-Hossa
Parise-Zajac-Bergfors
Not that I'm ready to give up on these two . . . but I'm pretty much ready to give up on these two.

ALine9900
06-30-2008, 05:23 PM
Not that I'm ready to give up on these two . . . but I'm pretty much ready to give up on these two.

Why? Zajac should be fine next year, and Bergfors hasn't even had a real chance.

Harrison Ford
06-30-2008, 05:24 PM
Dude, it's good to see another Lemieux fan on this site. I know there are others who think he was pretty good, but only a few of us know the truth: Jesus did come back for a while, and he used the name Claude Lemieux as his alias.

he is my all time favorite. i liked him the best cause i was little when he was on the devils and i loved what he did.

guyincognito
06-30-2008, 05:24 PM
yes, but nobody wants to play in New Jersey.

And people would say nobody wants to play in Tampa either. IMO, Tampa is worse than Jersey.

Western Florida = Jerry Springer theme park with god awful weather in the summer.

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 05:27 PM
You got it all wrong. Jesus (I mean Claude) allowed those soldiers to beat him to a pulp in a classic turtle move. That's the mantra, baby: take it for a while, then send 'em all to hell later on. Brilliant strategy on Claude (I mean Christ's) part.

You wanna know what happens when a Carpenter gets into a fight?

JLyIlnUDBLQ

Yeah, he gets beat up by another Lemieux. So no dice on the Jesus business.

4W-JXDu1X-I

And Claude also held his own the 2nd time around as evidenced by the 2nd video.

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 05:27 PM
Not that I'm ready to give up on these two . . . but I'm pretty much ready to give up on these two.

Bergfors hasn't had a real chance, but he's going to be a nifty player, and Zajac just had too many rotating line mates last season. Getting a player like Parise on his wing helps him out.

JDevils3
06-30-2008, 05:27 PM
Giving up on Travis Zajac is beyond lunacy. He just turned 23 years old.

As far as Hossa goes, I'll not hold my breathe.

I think Lou will be involved, but it takes two to tango. I don't think Hossa will be interested in coming to New Jersey.

I hope I'm wrong. :)

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 05:28 PM
I don't think Hossa will be interested in coming to New Jersey.


But getting to the Finals with Pittsburgh gave him the taste for winning, maybe he liked that and knows that NJ is always a threat, especially with Brodeur in net.

Devilswede
06-30-2008, 05:31 PM
Exactly. Lou will be interested..but will the interest be mutual? I highly doubt it. That's what bothers me the most probably. They have no idea how great this team could be if they decided to come here....

But......

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:32 PM
Travis Zajac is just another Jim Craig . . . who gets it? Common, anybody?

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 05:32 PM
Exactly. Lou will be interested..but will the interest be mutual? I highly doubt it. That's what bothers me the most probably. They have no idea how great this team could be if they decided to come here....

But......

....they read TSN and Scott Burnside articles on ESPN and think that NJ just wants to ruin hockey and their career numbers. So no one gives a **** about coming here unless they're on defense.

ALine9900
06-30-2008, 05:32 PM
Giving up on Travis Zajac is beyond lunacy. He just turned 23 years old.

As far as Hossa goes, I'll not hold my breathe.

I think Lou will be involved, but it takes two to tango. I don't think Hossa will be interested in coming to New Jersey.

I hope I'm wrong. :)

He can live in NYC ;)

JDevils3
06-30-2008, 05:37 PM
Travis Zajac is just another Jim Craig . . . who gets it? Common, anybody?

Jim Craig... the 1980 U.S. Olympic goaltender? I don't follow?

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 05:37 PM
Remember that puck possession style that he tried at the beginning of last year and it failed? The Zub-Eli-Hoss line could do that kind of forecheck easily.

Zubelihoss. Sounds like a good name.

bense27
06-30-2008, 05:40 PM
Zubrus did.

yeah but we're talking Hossa here.

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:41 PM
Remember that puck possession style that he tried at the beginning of last year and it failed? The Zub-Eli-Hoss line could do that kind of forecheck easily.

Zubelihoss. Sounds like a good name.
For $17 million per, it should sound good.

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:42 PM
Jim Craig... the 1980 U.S. Olympic goaltender? I don't follow?
Anybody else? Anybody at all?

CMac17
06-30-2008, 05:42 PM
Zubelihoss. Sounds like a good name.

:laugh: I love it! Only one thing though... is that more like ZOOB-lay-hawss or Zub-EL-lee-hawss? Gotta know so I can start making fun of announcers for messing it up ;)

TaiMaiShu
06-30-2008, 05:42 PM
Travis Zajac is just another Jim Craig . . . who gets it? Common, anybody?

NHL EHM, I win!

PolishDevil77
06-30-2008, 05:43 PM
finally some exciting news from Devils camp, I wish we'll be as aggressive as Tampa tomorrow, we have the money and we need to fill some holes, I can deal with loosing in first round, but I don't think I can deal loosing almost all of the games to the Rangers during regular season+ not winning home in playoffs against nasty avery

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:44 PM
:laugh: I love it! Only one thing though... is that more like ZOOB-lay-hawss or Zub-EL-lee-hawss? Gotta know so I can start making fun of announcers for messing it up ;)
I can hear the song as they come out to start each match to that all too familiar Rammstein tune:

Zoob!
Zoob Lay!
Zoob Lay Hawss!
Zoob Lay Hawss!

bense27
06-30-2008, 05:44 PM
Travis Zajac is just another Jim Craig . . . who gets it? Common, anybody?

they're both sieves?

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:45 PM
NHL EHM, I win!
Ding! Ding! Ding! Greatest game . . . ever. 27 days played and counting.

JDevils3
06-30-2008, 05:48 PM
NHL EHM, I win!

Oh. Crap. I really should have known that!!!! :cry:

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 05:50 PM
:laugh: I love it! Only one thing though... is that more like ZOOB-lay-hawss or Zub-EL-lee-hawss? Gotta know so I can start making fun of announcers for messing it up ;)

You need to pronounce the "Eli" ZubeEliHoss, otherwise it would be like Elias is pointless in the equation.

CMac17
06-30-2008, 05:54 PM
You need to pronounce the "Eli" ZubeEliHoss, otherwise it would be like Elias is pointless in the equation.

right on, that's what I was going for in the second one. Turns out I suck at writing dictionaries. I shall not foray into that field!

I was thinking with the first one though, you could say it quickly and it would be like saying "Elias" except "ZOOB" instead of "EL". Then it's like Hossa and Elias merged into one giant puck ripping super hero!

4check22
06-30-2008, 05:55 PM
You need to pronounce the "Eli" ZubeEliHoss, otherwise it would be like Elias is pointless in the equation.
Pointless in the equation? Kinda like half his matches this year? Snap! :shakehead Sorry about that.

"I had the shot and I took it" -- Maverick.

TaiMaiShu
06-30-2008, 05:58 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! Greatest game . . . ever. 27 days played and counting.

Games a freakin black hole. Once I play, I start pulling all nighters and don't shower for days. It's a good thing I get hungry.

4check22
06-30-2008, 06:01 PM
Games a freakin black hole. Once I play, I start pulling all nighters and don't shower for days. It's a good thing I get hungry.
I hear ya. I've had it for a year and a half and have played it for 27 days. That is basically 1 month out of the 18 months I've owned the thing. I average 1.5 hours per day playing it since i've had it. My a$$ has swelled.

Darius Dangleaitis
06-30-2008, 06:12 PM
Good grief, if we get Hossa I will die a happy man. Even before the season starts.

Clarkson Falls Down
06-30-2008, 06:13 PM
Besides the whole money thing, Hossa is a Devils type of player. He'd mesh well with the system and I think that Elias and him could find fantastic chemistry.

I am really praying that we make a hard push for him tomorrow.

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 06:13 PM
What game is that? EHM??

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 06:15 PM
Besides the whole money thing, Hossa is a Devils type of player. He'd mesh well with the system and I think that Elias and him could find fantastic chemistry.

I am really praying that we make a hard push for him tomorrow.

He is easily the best explosive offensive player who can play defense. He and Elias on the PK would be deadly.

4check22
06-30-2008, 06:23 PM
What game is that? EHM??
Read about it here (http://www.eastsidehockeymanager.net/).

bense27
06-30-2008, 06:44 PM
Pointless in the equation? Kinda like half his matches this year? Snap! :shakehead Sorry about that.

"I had the shot and I took it" -- Maverick.

did you just refer to a hockey game as a match?

Jiri Bicek
06-30-2008, 06:48 PM
Remember that puck possession style that he tried at the beginning of last year and it failed? The Zub-Eli-Hoss line could do that kind of forecheck easily.

Zubelihoss. Sounds like a good name.

Your starting to turn me pro-Hossa

Darius Dangleaitis
06-30-2008, 06:49 PM
Besides the whole money thing, Hossa is a Devils type of player. He'd mesh well with the system and I think that Elias and him could find fantastic chemistry.

I am really praying that we make a hard push for him tomorrow.

Exactly. It's not signing him just for the sake of signing a big name player. This guy actually fits our system. He's just so strong (no homo) and can catch almost anyone on the backcheck.

Darius Dangleaitis
06-30-2008, 06:50 PM
He is easily the best explosive offensive player who can play defense. He and Elias on the PK would be deadly.

Gotta disagree there. That'd have to go to Zetterberg or current Selke-winner Datsyuk. That doesn't mean he isn't absolutely fantastic though.

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 06:55 PM
Your starting to turn me pro-Hossa

No reason to be anti-one of the best players in the league. If we could acquire him and his salary would not hurt us years down the road, there is no reason to not want him...

Darius Dangleaitis
06-30-2008, 06:56 PM
No reason to be anti-one of the best players in the league. If we could acquire him and his salary woulld not hurt us years down the road, there is no reason to not want him...

Exactly. It's not like signing him would put us right against the cap. It would arguably hamper our ability to make any other significant maneuvers, but it certainly would not handcuff us.

Clarkson Falls Down
06-30-2008, 06:57 PM
Exactly. It's not signing him just for the sake of signing a big name player. This guy actually fits our system. He's just so strong (no homo) and can catch almost anyone on the backcheck.

I completely agree. He's a big name player who fits the Devils system like a glove.

Elias to Parise
06-30-2008, 06:58 PM
July 1st is the only day that gives me that feeling in my stomach that I used to get before Christmas morning when I was a kid. Except tomorrow I might wake up to a huge disapointment.

I'll want the season to start July 2nd if we get Hossa. Rolston and Redden or some combination would also make my day if Hossa doesn't work out. I also don't think Markus Naslund is as bad as everyone seems to think, the guy could probably stll put up a 30/30/60 year if he plays with the right linemates.

Darius Dangleaitis
06-30-2008, 07:01 PM
July 1st is the only day that gives me that feeling in my stomach that I used to get before Christmas morning when I was a kid. Except tomorrow I might wake up to a huge disapointment.

I'll want the season to start July 2nd if we get Hossa. Rolston and Redden or some combination would also make my day if Hossa doesn't work out. I also don't think Markus Naslund is as bad as everyone seems to think, the guy could probably stll put up a 30/30/60 year if he plays with the right linemates.

If I may quote Weeonta, roughly:

Being a Devils fan on July 1st is like running down the stairs Christmas Morning expecting to see a Power Wheels, but getting Hot Wheels.

Jiri Bicek
06-30-2008, 07:03 PM
No reason to be anti-one of the best players in the league. If we could acquire him and his salary woulld not hurt us years down the road, there is no reason to not want him...

I was anti-Hossa because of the the tag he might bring and I wasn't sure how sound he was defensively..

He really impressed me during the playoff run with his defense, the MArty hourglass is running low, and I just don't care anymore..

Let Lou handle this.. This is why he's the GM and we're on a message board..

If we don't get Hossa, I won't flip out and I won't blame Lou if he tried.. What else could he have done?

fortheloveof666
06-30-2008, 07:12 PM
Gotta disagree there. That'd have to go to Zetterberg or current Selke-winner Datsyuk. That doesn't mean he isn't absolutely fantastic though.

In the East though...that could easily be one of the most potent PK's out there. Although my belief from a coaching perspective is that they would only serve as a PK2 unit and not the top one.

While it would be great to have defensively responsible scorers on a PK (such as the example you mentioned) you also don't want to have to play those guys too much night in and night out.

But regardless, I think Hossa's back-checking is his greatest asset to our team. Yes we need his scoring but I just think that the fact he's so willing to back-check strongly and be effective in breaking up the rush to some extent is what would allow him to be a great fit in NJ. He's already cut out for what would likely be asked of him regardless.

To me that makes him attractive (:naughty:) to our franchise more than most guys on the market right now including Campbell. But it is also a matter of what the price tag is, because as good as he is, I'm not willing to overpay the **** out of him based on his "stature." He has said he'd be willing to take a slight discount to play for a team with a shot, so maybe we have that going for us.

In the end though, I think NJ is quite low on his list.

Devilsfanatic
06-30-2008, 07:19 PM
Zoob-Elly-Hoss is what I was thinking it should sound like!

bense27
06-30-2008, 08:03 PM
If Lou pulls this off I would start praising him again. Because Lou hasn't done **** in the last 5 years.

Elias to Parise
06-30-2008, 08:10 PM
But regardless, I think Hossa's back-checking is his greatest asset to our team. Yes we need his scoring but I just think that the fact he's so willing to back-check strongly and be effective in breaking up the rush to some extent is what would allow him to be a great fit in NJ. He's already cut out for what would likely be asked of him regardless.

I thought Hossa wasn't a two-way player according to a certain poster on here?<insert sarcasm smiley here>

fIREnIcE
06-30-2008, 08:27 PM
Lou pretty much said on more than one occasion that Bergfors and Vrana weren't called up because they didn't want to play them on the 3rd/4th line.

I just cant see them making the jump to the top 6 if gio zubrus and elias were having trouble there we need some prmiere(at least one especially in our division every team has at least two guys, well jagr is gone, that are better than our best player and I mean that with respect(parise and a sometimes Elias) isnt that far off). WE JUST HAVE MARTY AND THE BEST 3RD LINE IN THE BIZ(i do feel if pando wants to much he should walk and sarge's better days are long gone, but Zubrus/Dupuis can step inand we still have langs too). Hossa and a having a better bottom 6 and a solid 1=6 d-set would put us atop the pack again. Granted better coaching and management allows us to finish at the top almost every year but we need to start holding that crown.

I just think the money we would spend o retain this team you can build a better one spending a couple mil more if even. Hell with the amount weekes played we can sign Raycroft for league min or even get clemmer back hell Ron Low could the job.:sarcasm:

Das Uber
06-30-2008, 08:29 PM
I just cant see them making the jump to the top 6 if gio zubrus and elias were having trouble there we need some prmiere(at least one especially in our division every team has at least two guys, well jagr is gone, that are better than our best player and I mean that with respect(parise and a sometimes Elias) isnt that far off). WE JUST HAVE MARTY AND THE BEST 3RD LINE IN THE BIZ(i do feel if pando wants to much he should walk and sarge's better days are long gone, but Zubrus/Dupuis can step inand we still have langs too). Hossa and a having a better bottom 6 and a solid 1=6 d-set would put us atop the pack again. Granted better coaching and management allows us to finish at the top almost every year but we need to start holding that crown.

I just think the money we would spend o retain this team you can build a better one spending a couple mil more if even. Hell with the amount weekes played we can sign Raycroft for league min or even get clemmer back hell Ron Low could the job.:sarcasm:

Bergfors is a top 6 forward or bust. He better work on the top 2 lines or he's gone. Career AHLer or back to Sweden. You're not going to see him on the 3rd or 4th lines.

None Shall Pass
06-30-2008, 08:49 PM
[THE OBVIOUS]Hossa's going to want big money and lots of years.[/THE OBVIOUS]

fIREnIcE
06-30-2008, 09:37 PM
Bergfors is a top 6 forward or bust. He better work on the top 2 lines or he's gone. Career AHLer or back to Sweden. You're not going to see him on the 3rd or 4th lines.

i really really agre i do...but let him start out there i just saying ten 15 years ago players sis not jsut start out on the 2nd line look at hockey db it was almost lieka real job that i already have and i assume you are almost done with school you had to pay your dues unless you are a wayne gratzky super mario sid, ovy and so on even today s top players stated out getting 3rd and 4th line minutes....and the buety of the devils if we build them rigth(ok ok the way i want to and some others here would like the line between 3rd and 4th can be blurred the 4th can be a legit 20-25 goal scoring machine except rupp who i think should have a limited role....berfore-gratton-and say vrana should be capable of doing that

Game Breaker
06-30-2008, 10:02 PM
They tell me do things...I done...runnnnin!

Jiri Bicek
06-30-2008, 10:56 PM
They tell me do things...I done...runnnnin!

:laugh::laugh:

I never saw those until today

åboriginal
06-30-2008, 11:04 PM
They tell me do things...I done...runnnnin!

these are all fantastic, just wish there were more. this was the first one i saw and its still one of my favs:laugh:.
Ww3GTNv9hHk

Darius Dangleaitis
07-01-2008, 12:10 AM
They tell me do things...I done...runnnnin!

The funniest one. Porkchop Sandwiches!

Semak20
07-01-2008, 02:17 AM
these are all fantastic, just wish there were more. this was the first one i saw and its still one of my favs:laugh:.
Ww3GTNv9hHk

Derail the thread, derail this thread!
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furti
07-01-2008, 03:47 AM
Bergfors is a top 6 forward or bust. He better work on the top 2 lines or he's gone. Career AHLer or back to Sweden. You're not going to see him on the 3rd or 4th lines.

Yes, I agree that Bergfors has to be in the top six in the long run but i easily can see him playing in the third, fourth line. For example Parise played almost his entire rookie season on the fourth line. Only at the end of the season was on he on a scoring line.

GoGoGopher
07-01-2008, 04:47 AM
Yes, I agree that Bergfors has to be in the top six in the long run but i easily can see him playing in the third, fourth line. For example Parise played almost his entire rookie season on the fourth line. Only at the end of the season was on he on a scoring line.


Furti, you are really in Budapest? Nice to have a fellow Devils fan from overseas on here. Is it difficult to follow the NHL from Hungary? I really hope Bergfors and Vrana make the team this season. I have confidence, given a fair chance, that both would be assets and would contribute.

furti
07-01-2008, 05:29 AM
Furti, you are really in Budapest? Nice to have a fellow Devils fan from overseas on here. Is it difficult to follow the NHL from Hungary? I really hope Bergfors and Vrana make the team this season. I have confidence, given a fair chance, that both would be assets and would contribute.

Yeah, I really live in Budapest, but here are several other European posters as well. To answer your question, the Hungarian Sportschannel has been broadcasting NHL games for the last couple of years now. Unfortunately Devils games are rare to see (maximum 2-3 times a season excluding playoffs) so i have to rely on the streams on the internet. This year i could see almost 80% of the games when i could stay awake (Usually the Devils matches begin at 1 in the mourning). So it's much better now. I remember the old times, when i was listening to the radio broadcasts and browsing SI.com's live score page till the mourning in the middle of the exam period. :laugh:

britdevil
07-01-2008, 05:52 AM
Big up the European massiv'.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
07-01-2008, 10:37 AM
Apparently Lou is gonna go hard after Hossa... according to TFP (:cry:)

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/njd080630.html

Austrian Devil
07-01-2008, 11:59 AM
Big up the European massiv'.

Yeah, Yeah!

MEnK145M9-A

fIREnIcE
07-01-2008, 01:07 PM
Yes, I agree that Bergfors has to be in the top six in the long run but i easily can see him playing in the third, fourth line. For example Parise played almost his entire rookie season on the fourth line. Only at the end of the season was on he on a scoring line.

thanks you its not just given to you....you EARN IT!!!!

fIREnIcE
07-01-2008, 01:08 PM
Furti, you are really in Budapest? Nice to have a fellow Devils fan from overseas on here. Is it difficult to follow the NHL from Hungary? I really hope Bergfors and Vrana make the team this season. I have confidence, given a fair chance, that both would be assets and would contribute.

yeah thaey should make it. bergie right of thew bat(not on the top six sorry fellas) and Vrana will be there during the seaon liek gio did when he came in and where did he play too????

Darius Dangleaitis
07-01-2008, 06:34 PM
Hossa is being offered between 9 and 10 million by the Oilers.

I bet there are a number of other teams just below that number as well.

I'm not getting my hopes up:cry:.