Bronze Medal GDT: 5/17 - Finland 4, Sweden 0

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TEAM FINLAND OFFICIAL LINE-UP
16 Ville Peltonen (C) - 11 Saku Koivu - 8 Teemu Selänne
12 Olli Jokinen (A) - 9 Mikko Koivu (A) - 15 Tuomo Ruutu
38 Antti Pihlström - 39 Niko Kapanen - 36 Jussi Jokinen
37 Mika Pyörälä - 23 Riku Hahl - 18 Hannes Hyvönen

4 Ville Koistinen - 27 Mikko Jokela
19 Mikko Luoma - 40 Sami Lepistö
6 Ossi Väänänen - 33 Anssi Salmela
21 Janne Niskala - 7 Antti-Jussi Niemi

32 Niklas Bäckström
35 Petri Vehanen

Scratches
G 31 Karri Rämö (healthy)
L 20 Sean Bergenheim (healthy)
C 10 Esa Pirnes (healthy)

TEAM SWEDEN OFFICIAL LINE-UP
79 Fredrik Warg - 19 Nicklas Bäckström (C) - 10 Patric Hörnqvist
15 Rickard Wallin - 16 Johan Andersson - 12 Karl Fabricius
97 Per Ledin - 9 Tony Mårtensson - 80 Mattias Weinhandl
3 Nils Ekman - 26 Marcus Nilson - 27 Robert Nilsson
17 Michael Holmqvist

24 Jonas Frögren - 36 Anton Strålman
2 Douglas Murray - 7 Niclas Wallin (A)
5 Daniel Fernholm - 6 Magnus Johansson (A)
23 Alexander Edler

1 Stefan Liv
32 Mikael Tellqvist

Scratches
G 30 Henrik Lundqvist (healthy)
D 29 Kenny Jönsson (headaches)
R 41 Daniel Widing (healthy)

Game Officials
R - Guy Pellerin (CAN)
R - Daniel Piechaczek (GER)
L - Sylvain Losier (CAN)
L - Yuri Oskirko (RUS)

Always a great matchup. Pulling for Finland but hope its just a good game.
Actually I want to see a shootout!

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How many games has Backstrom wore the "C"?

Suomi!!!

Saku and Teemu better bring it this game ^^
And I think they will. Without Lunkan in goal, Finland will really have to make alot of mistakes to lose.

After the semifinal Saku was quoted saying that perhaps there should be no bronze game at all. First time ever I've heard him say something like this. This may indicate motivation problems for team Finland in the bronze game...The sentiment is shared, I'm not sure whether I can get excited enough to watch it either.

Hopefully Shedden rests Saku and Teemu and puts them only on powerplay. If you don't have desire, don't go to ice. I have to say, that they didn't have much desire on yesterdays game either, or then they were tired. Not very effective play by them.

Hopefully we play our other line-ups and give some playtime for the fourth line also (some 5on5 play and not only PK).

Let's beat Sweden!! :handclap:

I have to admit, that if it wasn't Sweden as opponent I might be tempted to skip game also. But usually when you can't win the whole thing, these games are better than the final. So let's hope for a good game (without referee interfearing the game flow) and may the best team win (that is Finland)!

Let the score be, 4-3 for Finland in OT.

This is the REAL gold medal game. :sarcasm:


Would be nice to see Vehanen get the nod as Backstrom looked awfully shaky in the semi-final. Vehanen was awesome in the exhibition game against Canada.

My prediction: Finland 5-4 over our beloved neighbours.

Niklas Bäckström vs. Nicklas Bäckström - who will have a better game?

Finland vs. Sweden generally result in tense and exciting games, hopefully this won't be any different.

This is the REAL gold medal game. :sarcasm:


At least it's the most important game in the tournament :)

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whats up with that lion killing itself with a sword?

This game is today?

whats up with that lion killing itself with a sword?

It's to symbolize Finland's high suicide count :)

No, really, it's holding the sword on the other side of the head (don't you love 2d?)

At least it's the most important game in the tournament :)

It just isn't a true World Championship without a Finland-Sweden game.

It just isn't a true World Championship without a Finland-Sweden game.

Exactly.

Makes for a really nice hockey weekend.

Finland vs Sweden Saturday evening.

Dallas vs Detroit Saturday night (or Sunday morning actually)

(some time ago this would have been Finland vs Sweden, The NHL version, but now it's Sweden A vs Sweden B :))

Canada vs Russia Sunday evening.

Good thing I filled the fridge with beer :)

How many games has Backstrom wore the "C"?
two, i think

How many games has Backstrom wore the "C"?

two, i think

Must be three.

Kenny was out for the two final games in qualification and the semi.

This should be fun.. Finland 4-3

I'm hoping for a shootout!!!!

:cheers:

"Come on!
It's a Saturday night
Come On!
It's a Saturday Night
Come on!
It's a Saturday night
So bring your boys and your bats cause it's a bar fight"

Lordz of Brooklyn.

Well no fighting today but hopefully we see a good game. Damn I better record it cause the beer+vodka is tasting too good and maybe time to hit the bars...

Heja Suomi!

This should be a great game. I love Sweden-Finland match-ups.:)

May the best team win!

Stefan Liv in goal it says.

Stefan Liv in goal it says.

Bodes well :)

We couldn't reach the final,
but this is the 2nd best option.
I hope we can grab what's
still left to take.

Good luck to neighbors!

If the games yesterday were any indication of the team effort that both teams are capable of... Fin will attack but Swe will score. -> 5-2 to Sweden.

It's better than a Finland - Canada final! :sarcasm:

Well, hope for a great game with the Lions as winners!

But just hope for a good game!

Good luck to our rivals! :)

A bit funny when they have two interviews with N Bäckström, both in swedish, but with different players on different teams :)

It's a good thing that the Swedish one spells with 'ck' and the Finnish one with just 'k' :)

It's a good thing that the Swedish one spells with 'ck' and the Finnish one with just 'k' :)

The funniest thing about that is that in sweden most Niklases spell with just the k, while almost every finnish Nicklas spells with ck xD and here it is the other way around.

Miki with the opening face off

Exactly.

Makes for a really nice hockey weekend.

Finland vs Sweden Saturday evening.

Dallas vs Detroit Saturday night (or Sunday morning actually)
(some time ago this would have been Finland vs Sweden, The NHL version, but now it's Sweden A vs Sweden B :))

Canada vs Russia Sunday evening.

Good thing I filled the fridge with beer :)

Actually that game started an hour and half before our game. I have our game on tv and Detroit - Dallas on my computer (link at the end of this page: http://keskustelu.jatkoaika.com/showthread.php?t=35288&page=85 ).

The funniest thing about that is that in sweden most Niklases spell with just the k, while almost every finnish Nicklas spells with ck xD and here it is the other way around.

Yep, the only other Nicklas I know is Lidström.

But on the other hand, Niklas Hagman spells it the 'swedish' way, or the 'swedish swedish' way rather :)

Or maybe it's 'western swedish'.

Sloppy passing from both sides.

Bäckström with some interesting saves xD

Bäckström with some interesting saves xD

which one? :sarcasm:

which one? :sarcasm:
The finnish one ^^

Much better game than I was expecting. At least for this point.

Hopefully this stays this way more offense less defense, hawaian hockey from coast to coast.

Much better game than I was expecting. At least for this point.

Hopefully this stays this way more offence less defense, hawaian hockey from coast to coast.

Of course it will be good.

It's Sweden Finland and it's the last game of the season.

It doesn't matter if they play over Mars bars, a beer or a bronze medal.

This is one of those games that no swedish or finnish hockey player want to lose, ever.

Ok.
Last game of the season for the vast majority of the players.
Some (Strålman for instance)will actually continue in the AHL play offs.

PP Finland

Selänne's PP stick can't be legal... What a curve :O

Lame PP.

1-0!

Lame PP.

Wouldn't call it overly lame ...

Pillu! 1-0 Finland!

Pillu! 1-0 Finland!

Good thing for us that we know that 4 goals up isn't impossible ;)

Pihlström ftw :handclap:

Wouldn't call it overly lame ...

Before the second unit stepped on ice, I would ^^

Wtg Pillu

GOOOOOOOOOOO FINLAND.....

well not suprise i know sweden is nice country but they have not much to do with us.. they cant even score

Mikko with Saku and Teemu?

they cant even score

Guess you didn't see the game yesterday...

GOOOOOOOOOOO FINLAND.....

well not suprise i know sweden is nice country but they have not much to do with us.. they cant even score

Hmm, Tellqvist is on bench ready to take over, as he did some years ago ;)

2-0 <3

Hmm...Mikko out there with Teemu and Saku. And now Peltonen with OJ and Ruutu.

Mikko with Saku and Teemu?

Good thing they let Saku and Mikko play together.

Niskala, yeah.

Looks like everyone was waiting
for a goal or something to happen,
since the speed went up a bit after
it for both teams.

Niskala :amazed:

2-0!!!!!!!!!1

2-0 <3

Still not 4 goals up :)

But it does look bleak yes ...

I like these lines

Mikko - Saku - Teemu
Ville - Olli - Tuomo

Should've been tried earlier on.

do you have a belief that telqvist could be the next tommy salo

Why are Liv in goal?

He is on his knees 15minutes before the shot comes.

Two high shots, two goals. Not good enough.

Should've been tried earlier on.

Figures, the best game is the bronze game :rant:

do you have a belief that telqvist could be the next tommy salo

Erh?

Tellqvist took the net when Salo was pulled ...

Unsurprisingly Luoma takes a penalty. Seriously Swedes, is your league so crap or why is he doing so well there?

Unsurprisingly Luoma takes a penalty. Seriously Swedes, is your league so crap or why is he doing so well there?

Swedish teams don't employ a high forecheck. That's why Luoma can get much more time with the puck.

Scrum infront of finnish goal, Niskala with?

Finally it happened. Bäckström shoots, Bäckström makes the save.

Watching the game from IHWC
webfeed and couldn't help smiling
a little bit when the commentator
said:

"... we all know how the Finns like
to get an early lead and shut the
game down. They like to rely on
their defense to win the game for
them...".

Of course especially in a game against
SWE this sounds a bit funny, in light
of some unfortunate events in history.

Now, somebody poke me in the eye,
please, as I was digging old stuff...

Should've been tried earlier on.

It`s a wierd thing that Shedden changed players in the lines which worked but did nothing to 1st line which wasnt working that well. First he refused to take OJ out of 1st line and then he didnt have guts to drop Peltonen. In 3rd and 4th lines he changed players all the time.

Now, somebody poke me in the eye,
please, as I was digging old stuff...

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This game sucks... what a boring an uninteresting game so far.

It looks like neither of the teams gives a shiet about the outcome of this one. Might be just be me, but bronze sucks.

GOLD is the only thing that counts in this "joke-tournament".
God I hate the WCs... please lets just play every second year or something...

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Thank you.
Game on.

This game sucks... what a boring an uninteresting game so far.

It looks like neither of the teams gives a shiet about the outcome of this one. Might be just be me, but bronze sucks.

GOLD is the only thing that counts in this "joke-tournament".
God I hate the WCs... please lets just play every second year or something...

I don't know what game you're watching but it can't be the same game I'm watching.

Boring is the last thing I'd call this one.

Sloppy here and there yes, but very far from boring.

The only bad thing that I've noticed is that Sweden is down, for the moment.

God I hate the WCs

there's a simple solution. stop watching it. :)

i wouldn't watch games i'm not interested in.

Sweden played their best game against Canada. This game will not be their best. they have good national league, but its not enough for mighty finns.

there's a simple solution. stop watching it. :)

:nod:

I don't know what game you're watching but it can't be the same game I'm watching.

Boring is the last thing I'd call this one.

Sloppy here and there yes, but very far from boring.

The only bad thing that I've noticed is that Sweden is down, for the moment.

Seriously it has nothing to do with sweden being down by two, but the fact that I think this whole tournament is loosing its value for every year that goes. The only thing that matters about this tournament is to win gold... in other sports.. its actually pretty nice to get bronze. Like Sweden did in football '94.

No one even cares about this game tonight in Sweden... only diehard hockeyfans. I talked to my friends who were going to skip it all of them. They would never skip a qualification-game for Euro Champs in football.

Seriously. But why is IIHF trying to kill off international hockey. That whole federation is a joke. This matter needs to be dealt with, because hockey is loosing in popularity due to this "joke-tournament".

No one even cares about this game tonight in Sweden... only diehard hockeyfans. I talked to my friends who were going to skip it all of them. They would never skip a qualification-game for Euro Champs in football.

I think the knowledge that no Lunkan in net is the reason for that. And that swedes have a perverted fascination with low-quality footy.

Seriously. But why is IIHF trying to kill off international hockey. That whole federation is a joke. This matter needs to be dealt with, because hockey is loosing in popularity due to this "joke-tournament".

Loosers tend downplay the value of the tournament, but when your playing for the gold opinions suddenly change.

And the reason why it's held every year is because the current sponsorship deals mandate it.

Koivu and Hörnqvist hugging

Seriously. But why is IIHF trying to kill off international hockey. That whole federation is a joke. This matter needs to be dealt with, because hockey is loosing in popularity due to this "joke-tournament".

Well, how would YOU run IIHF then? What changes would you do? How would you deal with these matters?

Where is Teemu's hockey sense? O_o he looks lost. Skating weird, not seeing the passes in advance etc.

I think the knowledge that no Lunkan in net is the reason for that. And that swedes have a perverted fascination with low-quality footy.

Well, thats one reason, but the biggest reason is actually that no one cares about bronze in WCs. Even if we face Finland which have been a lot of classical games.

Iihf has to do something, because they are killing the interest for WCs for every year that goes... soon even diehard hockeyfans won´t even care **** about the tournament.

PP for Finland

I think the knowledge that no Lunkan in net is the reason for that. And that swedes have a perverted fascination with low-quality footy.

No, it's down to this nation's moronic fascination in footy.

20 people running around like headless chicken for 90 minutes and in the end Germany wins.

I just can't understand why anyone cares to watch it unless getting paid.

Well, thats one reason, but the biggest reason is actually that no one cares about bronze in WCs. Even if we face Finland which have been a lot of classical games.

Iihf has to do something, because they are killing the interest for WCs for every year that goes... soon even diehard hockeyfans won´t even care **** about the tournament.

Pretty much anyone I know here in Falun is watching the game, but then again this is dalarna, hockey is big here. But most of them are students or former students who have come here from different parts of the country.

Nik Wallin really close to scoring an own goal

No, it's down to this nation's moronic fascination in footy.

20 people running around like headless chicken for 90 minutes and in the end Germany wins.

I just can't understand why anyone cares to watch it unless getting paid.

Well hello Gary Lineker.

Bäckström with the save!

That should've been a goal. Gotta love Bäckas!

Ok, if anyone from jatkoaika.com boards is here, could you please explain to username Brad that Jokinen plays D on PP for Panthers as well.

Edit: thanks Matti.

Well, thats one reason, but the biggest reason is actually that no one cares about bronze in WCs. Even if we face Finland which have been a lot of classical games.

Iihf has to do something, because they are killing the interest for WCs for every year that goes... soon even diehard hockeyfans won´t even care **** about the tournament.

I pretty much agree. Only reason I am watching this is because it is against Sweden. The game itself has been ok this far so in that way I dont have much to complain.

Rik. Wallin wanting to "talk" to Mikko Koivu. He seems to be a target for the swedes. Go figure. Our best player.

Oh. Miki started it ;)(

Ok, if anyone from jatkoaika.com boards is here, could you please explain to username Brad that Jokinen plays D on PP for Panthers as well.

Done.

Saku is so smart on the ice.

Wow, Edler really does suck.

Did Ledin just took a dive? He seems to try very hard to annoy Finland.

Lepistö, wtf:shakehead

Bäckas! Third really big save today.

Great save!

ledin 2min for slashing. Where??????

Salmela already had his hands up, and saw that the swede was going to dive.

Come on boys, let's play the game for a change.

OK, referees seems not to want Finland to win, it's second "looks like penalty" call, false call.

What a dive! The spirit of Floppa soars around.

?

hehhehehehe..
anyway... Sweden still own finland... they will never be no 1, but Sweden are playing bad so maybe fins can win this one...and Liv in net...gee

nice pk so far

Saku Diveou

Puh-lease. He got up as fast as he could to get into the play again.

Right now I don't know if I'll get a Bäckas or a "Pillu" Jersey. The Pillu Jersey of course with PILLU on the back :)

Saku divuo

Fy fan!

Selänne looks crisp like a plate of spaghetti

Selänne looks crisp like a plate of spaghetti

O_o I don't get it.

This period was nice. Mostly due to Bäckas. The swedes are coming it seems. But the penalty killing. Nice job!

Saku best penalty killing forward in the second period IMO

O_o I don't get it.

Haven't seem him as phlegmatic as he looks out there right now. Slow and tired.

2-0 after two. Too many penalties, but this way the game keeps tight.

Haven't seem him as phlegmatic as he looks out there right know. Slow and tired.

More than that he seems to have lost his hockey sense. He doesn't recieve passes that are not the easiest possible pass.

nice periods for the finns. TeamSweden sucks tonight, fins just have to net two high pucks, then play it out, it seems

nice periods for the finns. TeamSweden sucks tonight, fins just have to net two high pucks, then play it out, it seems

Swedes were alot better in this period than in the first. Bäckas had to bail out the finnish D a couple of times.

More than that he seems to have lost his hockey sense. He doesn't recieve passes that are not the easiest possible pass.

I wonder if this is the last game for him in a lion jersey.

I wonder if this is the last game for him in a lion jersey.

Probably is. Saku might have some left in him though. He looked really smart on the PK.

Do the swedes play another line than the Ledin - Mårtensson - Vinhandlaren?

O_o

Weinhandl is alot quicker than I remembered.

Weinhandl is alot quicker than I remembered.

he's a hockeygod! :yo:

Do the swedes play another line than the Ledin - Mårtensson - Vinhandlaren?

O_o

Weinhandl is alot quicker than I remembered.LOL Vinhandlaren!!!!!!!!! Thanx, Big up! PARTY ON!!!!

he's a hockeygod! :yo:

He looks like Ville Leino with slightly worse technique and better skating.

Wow. They just showed some highlights from the Lillehammer '94 finals, with Salo in net making some nice saves in the SO.

Too bad that he's not remembered from that game. Goalies are like bass players, the only time you're noticed is when you screw up.

He looks like Ville Leino with slightly worse technique and better skating.

i've never watched leino, so i can't comment. but weinhandl definately is NHL material these days. he improved a lot the past seasons in sweden. i really enjoy his game.

Wow. They just showed some highlights from the Lillehammer '94 finals, with Salo in net making some nice saves in the SO.

Too bad that he's not remembered from that game. Goalies are like bass players, the only time you're noticed is when you screw up.

so very true, best post today! im a drummer, so i know. big up

i've never watched leino, so i can't comment. but weinhandl definately is NHL material these days. he improved a lot the past seasons in sweden. i really enjoy his game.

Weinhandl doesn't have much of a repertoaire. NHL defensemen would learn his tricks quite quickly over a 82-game season. He wouldn't be able to play a goalscorer role in the NHL at least. And he isn't all that well-rounded...

i've never watched leino, so i can't comment. but weinhandl definately is NHL material these days. he improved a lot the past seasons in sweden. i really enjoy his game.going to russian for big money nex season...i dont understand russian...too bad, no aired games in russia anyway, but idlike him in NHL

I wonder if this is the last game for him in a lion jersey.

Maybe there are similar reasons
for Saku and Mikko playing in the
same line.

Playing the last international
game in the same line with his
brother?

Weinhandl doesn't have much of a repertoaire. NHL defensemen would learn his tricks quite quickly over a 82-game season. He wouldn't be able to play a goalscorer role in the NHL at least. And he isn't all that well-rounded...

i think he rounded out his game, but you may be right about his goalscoring ability. but 15-35-50 would be possible numbers for him. at least a 3rd liner in the "new" NHL.

i think he rounded out his game, but you may be right about his goalscoring ability. but 15-35-50 would be possible numbers for him. at least a 3rd liner in the "new" NHL.

Well. Playing a specific goal scoring role on a line for a year should make for the opposite. If anything, he's kinda less interested in helping out defensively etc.

Wow. They just showed some highlights from the Lillehammer '94 finals, with Salo in net making some nice saves in the SO.

Too bad that he's not remembered from that game. Goalies are like bass players, the only time you're noticed is when you screw up.

Yep.

How many remembers that Forsberg didn't win that game, Salo did.

Henrik Lundqvist said in an interview that it's a bit of a special job.

Since there's a red flashing light behind you that goes on every time you make a single mistake.

What's the score?

Both teams being sloppy with the puck.

What's the score?

3-0 Finland Pihlström! Beautiful

3-0 Finland

:yo::yo::yo: Suomi!

Pillu again! 3-0!

Yay, Pihlström :amazed:

Easy goals! Swedes looks tired, they played just a cuople hours ago. Could have play final tomorrow, so close. Tired players.

Pillu again

All finnish lines getting 5-on-5 time and not looking out of place.

The allmighty Antti "Fittan" Pihlström 3-0

Pihlström is god!

Pillu again! 3-0!

And good night Sweden :/

That was one very nice evening of hockey turned quite bad.

Well, the hockey was ok, the results wasn't :)

Pillu seems to love to play for the national team. And considering he's Preds property, we will see him quite often.

Awesome. I am going to order a Pillu jersey soon.

Pihlström is god!

Isn´t he Swedish? Or parents? hehehe

Easy goals! Swedes looks tired, they played just a cuople hours ago. Could have play final tomorrow, so close. Tired players.

Couple of hours? More like 22. :shakehead

tired swedish team, just want go home go boating...or? looks like it anyway

Well, the hockey was ok, the results wasn't :)

There's still 15 mins left :scared:

Couple of hours? More like 22. :shakehead

Gee, you know what i mean, i hope

Bäckström >>> Bäckström :cry:

Our Bäckström is clearly the better Bäckström on the ice.

Isn´t he Swedish? Or parents? hehehe

More likely that his ancestors in the 17-1800s were swedish. He is ALL finnish.

Ledin looks like Bergqvist looked in the final 1995. the only swede interested in winning the game. Too bad it's just a bronze game :/

More likely that his ancestors in the 17-1800s were swedish. He is ALL finnish.

big up

Some one should make t-shirts with Pihlström's picture with the text "Minäkin tykkään Pillusta" or "Tykkäätkö Pillusta?".

More likely that his ancestors in the 17-1800s were swedish.

Probably much earlier than that.

Was Jari Kurri being blowed or was he just happy about the play? O_O

Weird face.

Our Bäckström is clearly the better Bäckström on the ice.
oh yeah.

Some one should make t-shirts with Pihlström's picture with the text "Minäkin tykkään Pillusta" or "Tykkäätkö Pillusta?".

Definately. But is someone here as crafty as the Kovy Army people at the Thrashers board? :/

Some one should make t-shirts with Pihlström's picture with the text "Minäkin tykkään Pillusta" or "Tykkäätkö Pillusta?".

Or "you can't score without Pillu"

Swedes Bäckström isn't seeing much icetime. I think the Ledin - Mårtensson - Weinhandl-line is going for some kind of record.

More likely that his ancestors in the 17-1800s were swedish. He is ALL finnish.

from an outsider's standpoint, finns and swedes aren't as different as they think they are. :razz:

Nice tripping there xD

Definately. But is someone here as crafty as the Kovy Army people at the Thrashers board? :/

Pilluarmeija?

Koistinen has such smooth skating.

Pilluarmeija?

Or Pillupakka?
Pillubataljoona?

Wow, this is pretty bad hockey...

from an outsider's standpoint, finns and swedes aren't as different as they think they are. :razz:

Of course there is a difference!

They're on the wrong side of the baltic sea!

More likely that his ancestors in the 17-1800s were swedish. He is ALL finnish.

Some of the most nationalistic finns have swedish ancestry/are swedes :laugh:

no hitting from either team. and the swedes are not interested winning the bronze. they should be able score some anyway. fins got this in their hands...perfect

Some of the most nationalistic finns have swedish ancestry/are swedes :laugh:

Indeed. Without the fennomans the finnish language would probably be extinct.

Topelius said lots of smart things.

"It doesn't matter which language a tongue may speak, as long as there is only one heart, a heart that beats for the country"

Wow, this is pretty bad hockey...

Actually it's been better than expected.

Wow, this is pretty bad hockey...

Yeah, I am mostly listening to it now. Third period not so hot.

Wow, this is pretty bad hockey...

no kidding, worst game by the swedes, just want to come home to Sweden. boring!

Wild M.Koivu and former Wild reject R.Wallin have been on each other a couple of times, and now penalty for Miki.

Actually it's been better than expected.

because the Fins are winning?:)

from an outsider's standpoint, finns and swedes aren't as different as they think they are. :razz:

Finland was Sweden ones. period. and history.

no kidding, worst game by the swedes, just want to come home to Sweden. boring!

The boring brand of hockey is usually the brand played when swedes win. The second period was brilliant from the swedes. Much thanks to Ledin.

The boring brand of hockey is usually the brand played when swedes win. The second period was brilliant from the swedes. Much thanks to Ledin.No, they wont go on the offenseive, no hitting, no nice plays!

Mikko Koivu. Gotta love him. He seems so complete by now.

No, they wont go on the offenseive, no hitting, no nice plays!

Look at the shot totals for the second period. And mostly from really good areas, not just outside shots.

Mikko Koivu. Gotta love him. He seems so complete by now. he is great.

Look at the shot totals for the second period. And mostly from really good areas, not just outside shots.

Yeas, but understand me please, they just not shoot to score tonight!

Danish commentators are pretty alright. Norwegian commentators are the best this far.

Yeas, but understand me please, they just not shoot to score tonight!

It's not easy to do against Bäckas, especially without a real super scorer. Weinhandl has the best chance.

Weird for Edler to shoot from there O_o

Danish commentators are pretty alright. Norwegian commentators are the best this far.

i understood not everything, because it was too fast for me, but the norwegians were pretty funny. they didn't know everything, but they had fun. :nod:

Miki with the empty netter! 4-0

Mikko Koivu seals it with the empty netter, 4-0. :yo:

Mikko Koivu! 4-0 to Finland..

i understood not everything, because it was too fast for me, but the norwegians were pretty funny. they didn't know everything, but they had fun. :nod:

The norwegians explained things very well for the norwegian viewers, without making the fans out to be stupid.

Congrats to the Finns!

oops, didn't realized there is still like a 1:40

Don't blow it. :sarcasm:

goalie bäckström did okay, but was never challaged, saw all the shots, swedes tired, fins solid as a team! congrats to the fins

Congrats to Finland! :handclap: They truly deserved to win this game. Very impressive game by Niklas Bäckström.

Nice that it's Mikko Koivu who
scores the last FIN goal this
year. He's been our best center.

I'm so disappointed. Losing bronze is tough, but to the Fins ... Even being German and not really born into this rivalry, it's tough to swallow :pullhair:

Sweden is still the greatest nation! wohoo! see you at town... have fun tonight!!

Nice that it's Mikko Koivu who
scores the last FIN goal this
year. He's been our best center.

He can be the face of our national team for the future. If we just get a high class scorer I am content ^^

Congrats brothers. Very deserving win.

We'll see plenty of M. Koivu and Pihlström in the future

Sweden is still the greatest nation! wohoo! see you at town... have fun tonight!!

Until the final game, where at least Canada surpasses sweden.

Wow! Finland is kicking Sweden's butt

Pillu!

I am going to order that jersey anytime soon!

Final, 4-0 to Finland.. Great game, ok result from tournament.
Bronze is way better than fourth place.

Congrats to Finland! :handclap: They truly deserved to win this game. Very impressive game by Niklas Bäckström.

the only differnce was that goalie bäckstöm was unchalled in front of him.

36 shots and he saw all of them. easy and a fun game for finnish team. must have been great for them, like a trainingpass.

Are we gonna hear the anthem? I never heard the Finnish one ...

According to Finnish radio Bäckström was about to get the game puck but Teemu cut in. I guess this was Teemu's last game for Leijonat.

:handclap:

And a shutout to Bäckis.

Nice to end the tournament
with a win. Especially against
Tre Kronor.

because the Fins are winning?:)

At least they give a damn. Understandabel but unproffessional from our litlleyellow(and blue) friends.

Wow! Finland is kicking Sweden's butt

i didn´t see that comming.

13 shots for finnish 36 for swedes, says alot who wanted to win

Sweden was a bit more lackluster than expected today, but still a great tournament with that material.

Good luck for you guys in Euro 2008 :thumbu:

At least they give a damn. Understandabel but unproffessional from our yellow(and blue) friends.
your avatarguy is beaten up

the only differnce was that goalie bäckstöm was unchalled in front of him.

Well, he made a few great saves but the Swedish offense was atrocious.

congrats to finland. well-deserved win. :handclap:

Boss Nass (Kummola) shows his ugly mug.

congrats to finland. well-deserved win. :handclap:

welldeserved...hmmm...it was the case of a boring effort by swedes. never seen it before, at least vs fins. wired. noone expected bronze w this team anyway. congrats to both teams.

13 shots for finnish 36 for swedes, says alot who wanted to win

Maybe Sweden should do something about the SEL so that swedish goalies can get better? Churn out a couple of more Lundqvists...

your avatarguy is beaten upThats life!

Maybe Sweden should do something about the SEL so that swedish goalies can get better? Churn out a couple of more Lundqvists...

true, they are comming as we post.


effective finnish, uneffective swedes is the summary of this boring game. But the final should be great!! Party on dudes!

Nice to see players singing the anthem. :handclap:

Maybe Sweden should do something about the SEL so that swedish goalies can get better? Churn out a couple of more Lundqvists...

enroth and larsson are on their way.

but the ordinary SEL goalie is pretty weak compared to other leagues.

If Sweden isn't winning... go Finland! :yo:

I have mixed emotions, of course I would have liked Sweden to win but there are so many players on the finnish team I admire...

Pretty much the level of effort that I expected by a BÅG coached team in a bronze game.

Congrats Suomi, well deserved win.

Guys who impressed me most this year were.

Mikko Koivu. I had high expectations, but wow. We're looking at a huge part of finnish hockey's future here. I thought he'd only be this good on big ice...

Antti Pihlström. I had so-so expectations. He was much better offensively, defensively, physically and attitudewise than one can dream for. Can be one of these guys who always steps up on the national team. Or an NHL star.

Anssi Salmela. Not a superstar by any means. But looked much more safe defensively than I thought. And the guts... Very nice.

Koistinen, Salmela and Niskala as a whole surprised me. I bet they weren't expecting to having to clear the stupid plays of defensemen who were more experienced from them and supposed to play as the stay-at-home guys.

there are so many players on the finnish team I admire...

I wish I could say the same about your team. :D

I wish I could say the same about your team. :D

is Franzén, Lidström, Zetterberg, Holmström, Kronwall playing tonight?

Go Sweden...i mean go red wings! :)

Isn´t he Swedish? Or parents? hehehe

Nope. His raised so that he hasnt even ever before seen monster like swedish.

Nope. His raised so that he hasnt even ever before seen monster like swedish.

all fins belong to swedish crown! jsut kidding:) :)

enroth and larsson are on their way.

but the ordinary SEL goalie is pretty weak compared to other leagues.

I wouldn't count on Larsson to be a top-notch NHL goaltender. I can't really say what he's missing, apart from the lack of natural timing when going down on the butterfly. And the rebounds :O but he is still young... But I haven't seen a goalie with so odd timing while having so good reflexes succeed at a high level.

Enroth has the potential to be a much more complete goaltender IMO. His size might become a problem. But since Niittymäki can somewhat play the butterfly in the NHL, I might be wrong. He has better reflexes than any swedish goalie not named Lundqvist, but still it's his technique that he relies on. Which is a big strength. One of the few swedish goaltenders that I see that could actually actively choose to play the puck, which is a big strength in the NHL. Lundqvist is one of those smart ones who knows that it's not one of his strengths, and does it seldomly. Enroth could do it a bit more, at least against lesser opposition. Just as he doesn't get caught in Backlund-land and starts thinking that he's Norrena with the puck... While he is the typical swede.

is Franzén, Lidström, Zetterberg, Holmström, Kronwall playing tonight?

Go Sweden...i mean go red wings! :)

Is Franzen that famous finnish actor? I ate yesterday lidström stakes.

Other guys neverheard.

Is Franzen that famous finnish actor? I ate yesterday lidström stakes.

Other guys neverheard.

Peter Franzén. Great in Rukajärven tie!

Is Franzen that famous finnish actor? I ate yesterday lidström stakes.

Other guys neverheard.
they play in detroit red wings

"Is Franzen that famous finnish actor?" Franzén is a swedish name, you know

"I ate yesterday lidström stakes" - Sounds delicious, what is it?

Is Franzen that famous finnish actor?

Yes, that's the guy. Acted a dead russian in one C.S.I Miami episodes.

Isn't it Lindström steaks?

stakes are made of wood ;)

The funniest thing about that is that in sweden most Niklases spell with just the k, while almost every finnish Nicklas spells with ck xD and here it is the other way around.

Completely late and oh so OT but I know of 7 finnish men named Niklas (Me being one of them, and we all spell it with one k and nothing else. I do in fact think that one "c" or one "k" is way more common in finland then both)

Now about the game, finally Bäckström showed up and the theam benefited on their chances. Excellent game! :handclap::handclap::handclap:

An efficient Finland is weird to see. Instead of the Finland that is shooting blanks ^^

Isn't it Lindström steaks?

stakes are made of wood ;)

ahh, those...okay, not everybody can read here. big up. Lidstöm steakes! Cmon!

It's always very tough watching FIN-SWE on TV. No matter which team scores, my heart misses couple of beats...

Losing to swedes seems like end of the world, but winning is oh so sweet.

Pihlström isn't bigger than 5'10? Wow. He looked at least 6'0-6'1 by the way he played.

I wouldn't count on Larsson to be a top-notch NHL goaltender. I can't really say what he's missing, apart from the lack of natural timing when going down on the butterfly. And the rebounds :O but he is still young... But I haven't seen a goalie with so odd timing while having so good reflexes succeed at a high level.


i think he has starter potential on the osgood level. very solid, but not top-notch. at least that's his upside. but i really like his develop the past season. a completely improved goalie after the season.
and while he may not become a star, he's an upgrade over liv for example.


Enroth has the potential to be a much more complete goaltender IMO. His size might become a problem. But since Niittymäki can somewhat play the butterfly in the NHL, I might be wrong. He has better reflexes than any swedish goalie not named Lundqvist, but still it's his technique that he relies on. Which is a big strength. One of the few swedish goaltenders that I see that could actually actively choose to play the puck, which is a big strength in the NHL. Lundqvist is one of those smart ones who knows that it's not one of his strengths, and does it seldomly. Enroth could do it a bit more, at least against lesser opposition. Just as he doesn't get caught in Backlund-land and starts thinking that he's Norrena with the puck... While he is the typical swede.

enroth is indeed very complete. while size can be a problem, 5'11 is big enough to play the game.

i just think that enroth, larsson and markstrom sounds like a new generation of swedish goalies. a much improved one compared to the past. goaltending was always a problem IMO in sweden. no all-around guys. the new ones look at least promising.

Great in Rukajärven tie!

Ah, the bicycling soldier WWII movie. Very underrated war movie.

Well O.Jokinen wasnt so convinced about the greatness of our browns medals.
So, what about the evening, can he get past lines to jet-set, or is he the jet-set?

Coastie! Mattihp told me something about lindström steaks, is that what you wanted to tell me?

An efficient Finland is weird to see. Instead of the Finland that is shooting blanks ^^

True, also unheard of that Sweden shoots more shots on goal than Finland and can't score.

Losing to swedes seems like end of the world, but winning is oh so sweet.

Imaging how it must feel for me. A finn in sweden. In elementary school it was the worst.

Finland loses - verbal abuse
Finland wins - verbal and physical abuse

>_<

enroth is indeed very complete. while size can be a problem, 5'11 is big enough to play the game.


If he finds a hybrid style of play, sure. But being a starter who plays butterfly with that stature... Very hard.

Congrats to Finland who deserved to win! I felt sorry for u guys in Olympics 2006. This might not be revenge to the olympics, but at least its something.

As for Swedens tournament, i think they did very well with this lineup. At least 30 players turned down the national team (*** was that), but i dont like to just blame the players who didnt want to play... but the IIHF for hosting this "joke-tournament" every year.

Get rid of all these poor ************* and lets have a A-Champs again... and lets just play it every fourth year or something. Or at least every second year.

Imaging how it must feel for me. A finn in sweden. In elementary school it was the worst.

Finland loses - verbal abuse
Finland wins - verbal and physical abuse

>_<

back then fins NEVER won anything, you must have scars :)