Brodeur's eventual replacement?

So how deep are the Devils down on the farm with Goaltender prospects? Is Parises brother going to be a keeper?

Do you think Brodeur could play maybe 60 games a year if a homegrown came up the ranks and could be competitive off the bench at a small cap hit, while studying under Brodeur?

Whatever the teams needs of him, he will do. We are all hoping that somehow, his oldest son is ready for the nhl and is also a prodigy. In 4-5 years, we will find out.

So how deep are the Devils down on the farm with Goaltender prospects?
Not very deep.
Is Parises brother going to be a keeper?
No.
Do you think Brodeur could play maybe 60 games a year if a homegrown came up the ranks and could be competitive off the bench at a small cap hit, while studying under Brodeur?
No.

Bye.

:cry::cry: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, i told myself i wouldnt think about this for a long time, but i guess it wouldnt be a bad thing to start thinking about it:shakehead. i think whoever will be the #1 goalie for the devils after marty retires, A: isnt in our system at the moment, B: will never replace marty, because you cannot replace a legend.....

:boredom:

just sticky this, this way we can just direct people to it when they ask.

we will probably try and draft, because we dont have anybody in teh system right now that is nhl caliber or trade for one

we probably arent even going to try and groom one of our young goalies to play in the nhl with us.

marty should be play aboout 65-70 games a year and then play weekes, unfortunatley we have nobody good on teh team so we rely on him to win games for us 90 percent of the time and when he doesnt, we as fans *****

We'll sign Lundqvist ;)

By replace I didn't mean "replace". I mean perform goaltender duties after the legend decides the time is right.

Always thought the 1990 draft was so very interesting. Jagr and Brodeur in the same draft. Two guys who dominate different ends of the ice like few others ever have nor will.

Players drafted before the Devils at #20 in the 1990 1st round:

Scott Scissons - NY Islanders (#6)

John Slaney - Washington Caps (#9)

Shawn Antoski - Vancouver (#18) oh so close, has to burn.

All in all pretty sweet 1st round though:

Brodeur
Jagr
Primaeu
Ricci
Tkachuk
Nedved

We won't need a replacement. He'll be cloned.

We won't need a replacement. He'll be cloned.

quoted for truth
/thread

Got to love Ranger fans trying to "run off" Brodeur well before he reaches the end.

It's still too damn early to worry about a "replacement" for Brodeur. He is going to win the Vezina again this year (or at the very least come in a real close second). He still has a good 4-5 years left maybe even more. He may have to play less games however that means out veteran backup Kevin Weekes will pick up those game.

The Devils will probably draft a "replacement" but that draft pick isn't probably going to come for another 3 years as it would be smart to sign a veteran stop gap after Marty is gone so the new kid can develop and not be directly thrown to the wolves by going immediately after Marty.

So future plans for life after Marty are still off the radar. They are going to have to basically force him from playing 70 games right now and he has pretty much no history with injury, he's not a guy who is going to be retiring soon. We appreciate your concern as a Ranger fan though. Now get lost.

We won't need a replacement. He'll be cloned.

and in the news today:

News that scientists have for the first time genetically altered a human embryo is drawing fire from some watchdog groups that say it's a step toward creating "designer babies."

...

The idea of designer babies is that someday, scientists may insert particular genes into embryos to produce babies with desired traits like intelligence or athletic ability.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/wireStory?id=4841000

The Devils will probably draft a "replacement" but that draft pick isn't probably going to come for another 3 years as it would be smart to sign a veteran stop gap after Marty is gone so the new kid can develop and not be directly thrown to the wolves by going immediately after Marty.

So you think its all or nothing with Brodeur as the Devils tender? No room for him to ease out 3 or 4 years from now allowing a homegrown to spend some valuable time under his watch learning from a master?

So you think its all or nothing with Brodeur as the Devils tender? No room for him to ease out 3 or 4 years from now allowing a homegrown to spend some valuable time under his watch learning from a master?

look at history, at any position. You don't fill gaps of players like that which you actually draft (that's half a shot below the belt). The Rangers have never had a player on defense even close to the caliber of Brian Leech in his prime, they simply have not.

Regardless of any "problems" people have with Marty and/or the Devils organization...you simply don't draft guys like Marty on a regular basis. In Montreal they think they had the next coming of Patrick Roy and look how that turned out. Sure he was solid, but he clearly over achieved and eventually it showed.

Marty was never supposed to be the player he became, we were just lucky enough that he did. When you consider how spoiled we all our and this franchise is, I think it's inevitable that when he leaves we're going to hit rock bottom for a while. If we don't I think it will be a miracle and some incredible work by the front office, but I don't see it happening personally.

There is just no way you can ever go about replacing guys like that, and although we didn't draft him it will likely be a long time before we ever have a guy like Scott Stevens on the blue line.

and in the news today:



http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/wireStory?id=4841000

hmmm

....i know kung fu
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The Devils can draft a goalie a year in the 2nd, 3rd or later rounds and hope to get a diamond-in-the-rough. If that fails to produce a quality starter, there will likely be a decent goalie on the free-agent market.

Teams aren't going to be keeping two great goalies on their roster with the salary cap in place, so a trade is also a possibility.

As a die hard Packers fan, I've had the same feelings about Favre for yrs up until this year as the Devils fans have about Brodeur. I see a lot of similarites, both legends on the heel ends of their careers, but still great. THe Goalie position on the Devil team is a lot like the QB position on the Packer team. Its a fixture and sub par play is not excepted at that position, due to the legends that occupied it for so long, the fans are used to it. Yea, he's not the same as he was in his prime, but he can still play the game at a high level, is better than plenty of the starters around the league, and can carry the team at some degree. Favre was contemplating retirement since 02. And he played til 08. Now Marty probably isn't contemplating retirement yet, he probably will in maybe 2-3 yrs, possibly playing up to 4 more seasons. My non biased opionion is that he needs to play less games, maybe 60-65 and the Devils should go get a better backup, even thou Weekes aint horrible, but to play him for 15-20 games is asking a lot I think. Once Marty does Retire, I see the Devs trading for a decent tender, playing him, probably until they develope their own.

With Cam Ward, JS Puffy and one of Osgood/Fleury (probably) winning the Cup since the lockout, I'm not as worried about replacing Marty as I once was. Of course, the rest of our team sucks right now, but having a great goalie isn't the prerequisite it once was.

I say Ahonen or Frazee:sarcasm:

on a serious note, I can see Ahonen pulling a Noronen, Miika has been a great goaltender in the RSL this season, and will most likely get an offer from the NHL, hopefully the devils will still keep Ari's rights if he ever becomes a top goaltender in europe, and get a shot across the pond.

Starting goaltenders are out there. Believe it or not.

As Vinnie pointed out, NHL clubs clearly dont rely on superstar goaltenders as much as they used to. Unless you have an NHL franchise in Vancouver or New Jersey.

As a die hard Packers fan, I've had the same feelings about Favre for yrs up until this year as the Devils fans have about Brodeur. I see a lot of similarites, both legends on the heel ends of their careers, but still great. THe Goalie position on the Devil team is a lot like the QB position on the Packer team. Its a fixture and sub par play is not excepted at that position, due to the legends that occupied it for so long, the fans are used to it. Yea, he's not the same as he was in his prime, but he can still play the game at a high level, is better than plenty of the starters around the league, and can carry the team at some degree. Favre was contemplating retirement since 02. And he played til 08. Now Marty probably isn't contemplating retirement yet, he probably will in maybe 2-3 yrs, possibly playing up to 4 more seasons. My non biased opionion is that he needs to play less games, maybe 60-65 and the Devils should go get a better backup, even thou Weekes aint horrible, but to play him for 15-20 games is asking a lot I think. Once Marty does Retire, I see the Devs trading for a decent tender, playing him, probably until they develope their own.

You are not the only one who feels this way.

I truly hope that no one assumes "the next one" to be the next one after Marty. That is a certain way to doom every single guy that steps out to the ice.

Quoting Paul Rivers from the movie 21 grams: I can't keep going like this. The insemination, the child. It's like we're trying to put a Band-Aid on something that's just been bled dry.

So hopefully after Marty´s sun has set we are gonna replace him in a seanburkisque way with decent backup in a terrerisque style.

I'm really not worried about this yet..and even when Marty does retire I don't think it will be very hard to find a good goalie. Will Marty ever be replaced? No. Marty can never be replaced and no goaltender will ever be good as Marty Brodeur...but we'll be fine.

Marty has five years left on his contract. I'll worry about this when this contract expires.

Once again.. We'll worry about it when the time comes

As a die hard Packers fan, I've had the same feelings about Favre for yrs up until this year as the Devils fans have about Brodeur. I see a lot of similarites, both legends on the heel ends of their careers, but still great. THe Goalie position on the Devil team is a lot like the QB position on the Packer team. Its a fixture and sub par play is not excepted at that position, due to the legends that occupied it for so long, the fans are used to it. Yea, he's not the same as he was in his prime, but he can still play the game at a high level, is better than plenty of the starters around the league, and can carry the team at some degree. Favre was contemplating retirement since 02. And he played til 08. Now Marty probably isn't contemplating retirement yet, he probably will in maybe 2-3 yrs, possibly playing up to 4 more seasons. My non biased opionion is that he needs to play less games, maybe 60-65 and the Devils should go get a better backup, even thou Weekes aint horrible, but to play him for 15-20 games is asking a lot I think. Once Marty does Retire, I see the Devs trading for a decent tender, playing him, probably until they develope their own.

pretty good analogy. As Ronnie said there are a bunch of us that think he should play a bit less. BUt this season the Devs could have missed the playoffs if not for Marty.
BTW, Mess, went to the Packs game where they clinched the playoffs this year vs Oakland in Lambeau. It was like 10 degrees...... "First and Ten, Do it again, Go pack Go"......that will forever be stuck in my head, that, the sea of Orange hunting gear, and an 80yd td pass. (i am a giant fan though, just had to experience Lambeau while i live in the midwest)

My thoughts are this. The Devs will Eventually Draft someone, who knows, maybe sign Marty's son to a Free agent contract in a few years (provide he does not go into the draft). Joking of course, nothing says he will be the second coming.

I fully believe that Marty will stay within the organization, and would have to assume he would stay on as goaltending coach. It would be the next best thing especially if they draft a young goalie that he can groom....

Considering Brodeur is coming off one of his best regular seasons ever, I don't think we need to be worring about this for a while, especially if we get some improved d-men in here. When the time does come, I hope Lou does a better job of replacing Brodeur than he has Stevens and Niedermayer.

Considering Brodeur is coming off one of his best regular seasons ever, I don't think we need to be worring about this for a while, especially if we get some improved d-men in here. When the time does come, I hope Lou does a better job of replacing Brodeur than he has Stevens and Niedermayer.

2 hall of fame defenseman arent exactly easy to replace. But I understand where you are coming from.

There are plenty of starting goaltenders in the world. Guys like Stevens, Neids and Marty are never replaceable.

Rangers fans, get a good look at the kid on the left. He will carry on his father's legacy.

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I love how its always a Rangers fan asking the question.
No one knows.

I love how its always a Rangers fan asking the question.
No one knows.

Exactly...it's ALWAYS a Ranger fan asking the question.

Maybe we should go to their board to ask how they're going to replace Jagr?

I am 1000x more concerned about what's going to happen with next year's Devils than I am with the team 5 years down the line.

Exactly...it's ALWAYS a Ranger fan asking the question.

Maybe we should go to their board to ask how they're going to replace Jagr?

Granted, we have quite a few options in mind for that already. So they aren't exactly the same question.

Granted, we have quite a few options in mind for that already. So they aren't exactly the same question.

It's probably an even better question since it's something your club may need to address this offseason, whereas Brodeur is still at/near the top of his game and signed for a few more seasons. The Rangers have a few options since it's something they need to address, whereas the Devils still have a lot of time (though I'm sure Lou has already has a plan).

The question just seems to pop up on this board on a monthly basis.

look at history, at any position. You don't fill gaps of players like that which you actually draft (that's half a shot below the belt). The Rangers have never had a player on defense even close to the caliber of Brian Leech in his prime, they simply have not.


Do you mean "since Brian Leetch"? Because we did have Brad Park, who I feel was at least as good and probably better than Leetch was.

Granted, we have quite a few options in mind for that already. So they aren't exactly the same question.

Pretty damn similar though.

How do you replace your franchise's leading scorer and marquee player? Re-sign him? Sign another FA?

Rangers fans, get a good look at the kid on the left. He will carry on his father's legacy.



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Pretty damn similar though.

How do you replace your franchise's leading scorer and marquee player? Re-sign him? Sign another FA?

Either or. It's either that or they go with younger players and lose for a few years. It's up to the Rangers management. But we'll likely either see Jagr back or Hossa in his place.

But we'll likely either see Jagr back or Hossa in his place.

That wouldnt surprise me one bit. ;)

That wouldnt surprise me one bit. ;)

It wouldn't surprise me, either. I'm not sure how I feel about it, either. :help:

It wouldn't surprise me, either. I'm not sure how I feel about it, either. :help:

Well, theres no denying that it would be hard to manage for ol' Sather.

If he replaces the lost offense of Jagr though.....

Well, theres no denying that it would be hard to manage for ol' Sather.

If he replaces the lost offense of Jagr though.....

Well, I don't think signing Hossa will be hard to manage if they let Jagr walk.

We'll have a **** ton of cap space this offseason and I'd like to shed Jagr, Shanahan, and Straka at the very least if we are shedding the old timers. Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing Rozsival walk as well. Let someone else overpay for him.

Though I am of the ilk that would welcome Shanny back in a 4th line role for a very low cost.

ive said it before, trade for jaroslav halak while his value isnt very high........work him in and eventually he takes over for marty

Upon Marty's retirement, I'd recommend signing a veteran goalie from FNL (Like Backstrom in Minny) and working on a kid's development in the meantime. What 'kid' there is, I dunno. Hasn't been drafted yet?

ive said it before, trade for jaroslav halak while his value isnt very high........work him in and eventually he takes over for marty

not bad, not bad

young and frustrated over there in montreal.


What about Ersberg in LA? They dont need him, they have Bernier.

ive said it before, trade for jaroslav halak while his value isnt very high........work him in and eventually he takes over for marty

im all for that. i like what i saw from halak. not sold on him replacing marty as its waaaay too early to say, but its not a bad idea:thumbu:


not bad, not bad

young and frustrated over there in montreal.


What about Ersberg in LA? They dont need him, they have Bernier.


god save us if we get a swede between the pipes. like we need the rags fans to nag us about something else. "mraaa u guys are copying us, marty sucks and is allegedly overweight, henrik is teh better, sweden rox0rz...and so forth." however, i wouldnt mind a good young goalie. as much as i like weekes, the guy deserves to play while he still can and it def wont be much in durty jersey.

Well, I don't think signing Hossa will be hard to manage if they let Jagr walk.

We'll have a **** ton of cap space this offseason and I'd like to shed Jagr, Shanahan, and Straka at the very least if we are shedding the old timers. Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing Rozsival walk as well. Let someone else overpay for him.

Though I am of the ilk that would welcome Shanny back in a 4th line role for a very low cost.

You really think going & signing 3 of the highest priced UFA's over a 13 month period to long-term deals, along with having one of the highest paid goalies in the league is a good business decision? It didn't work for you guys in a non-capped era, so why would snatching up the most expensive UFA's be such a great idea in now?

It's not like Hossa would be inclined to take a discount to sign with the Rangers or anybody else (except maybe the Pens if he decides he loves playing on such a high powered offensive team that's geared to be a Cup contender for many years) - maybe if the Rangers still had his brother on the team he'd be more inclinded to sign, but unless they're the highest bidder (or awfully close) I don't see it happening.

I'd really love to see the Devils sign Hossa this offseason & I think there's a chance since the Devils were interested in trading for him at the deadline. But if they can't get him, I'm fine watching him go over to the Rangers and help destroy their cap for the next few years. I've seen the threads on the Rangers board about next year's team & if they want to have 4 guys locked up to long-term deals at $6.875MM+, then go right ahead.

I'd really love to see the Devils sign Hossa this offseason & I think there's a chance since the Devils were interested in trading for him at the deadline. But if they can't get him, I'm fine watching him go over to the Rangers and help destroy they're cap for the next few years. I've seen the threads on the Rangers board about next year's team & if they want to have 4 guys locked up to long-term deals at $6.875MM+, then go right ahead.

....that and when gayvery hits pay dirt and hornswaggles them for 4-5 mil a year

You really think going & signing 3 of the highest priced UFA's over a 13 month period to long-term deals, along with having one of the highest paid goalies in the league is a good business decision? It didn't work for you guys in a non-capped era, so why would snatching up the most expensive UFA's be such a great idea in now?


Where did I ever said it was a good idea? I already said I don't know how I feel about it if it would happen.

Don't put words in my mouth, HBK.

Where did I ever said it was a good idea? I already said I don't know how I feel about it if it would happen.

Don't put words in my mouth, HBK.

Missed your earlier post saying your weren't sure about how you felt & inferred from the post I quoted that you were in favor of it, since you wanted to see Jagr & the rest walk. My bad. The rest of my rant still stands though...

So whadda guys gonna do about replacing Jagr then, huh?

Missed your earlier post saying your weren't sure about how you felt & inferred from the post I quoted that you were in favor of it, since you wanted to see Jagr & the rest walk. My bad. The rest of my rant still stands though...

So whadda guys gonna do about replacing Jagr then, huh?

Well we still have scoring depth, although losing Jagr obviously would be crucial. We'd also have to sign an FA this year to tide us over, and in the future sign one to replace him.

Also, Cherepanov and Anisimov are so far so good. While I'm not trying to rub anything in the Devils' face or anything like that, it's a bit of a different situation. We have in-house replacements right now that (hopefully) will be here in the coming years. Right now the Devils have absolutely nothing. I think it is time to draft a goalie. With a good goalie class this year, the Devils need to make a move. We've seen very few examples of goalies being ready at the ages of 19, 20, 21. If the Devils draft a goalie now in 3-5 years when Marty is on his last tank the goalie will be close to ready. If the 21st pick comes and Mcollum is available I don't see why you WOULDN'T take him.

The Rangers had the 3rd worst offence in the East this year, but I'm sure everything will be fine without their #1 forward. I would be surprised if Sather doesn't go out and spend $100M on Hossa.

Why are we talking about the Rangers? If you want the **** ******* **** ****** Barbara Streisand ****** ****'s to leave, stop talking about their disgusting ****** **** ****** ****** ******* team.

So how deep are the Devils down on the farm with Goaltender prospects? Is Parises brother going to be a keeper?

Do you think Brodeur could play maybe 60 games a year if a homegrown came up the ranks and could be competitive off the bench at a small cap hit, while studying under Brodeur?

Brodeur's replacement?

On the Phoenix Coyotes roster right now

Traded there for somebody named "Shoestring"

Will eventually work his way here

Will win Vezinas and Lord Stanleys, unlike the player who took his rightful place. :sarcasm:


Why are we talking about the Rangers? If you want the **** ******* **** ****** Barbara Streisand ****** ****'s to leave, stop talking about their disgusting ****** **** ****** ****** ******* team.

Hey, watch what you say about Babs.

You might insult the black fingernail painting, 15 goal per season, Vogue magazine summer interning bathhouse crowd.

The Rangers had the 3rd worst offence in the East this year, but I'm sure everything will be fine without their #1 forward. I would be surprised if Sather doesn't go out and spend $100M on Hossa.

Our offense was bad partly because of Jagr, Vinnie. It isn't a stretch to say that, either, as he was absolutely terrible for a good chunk of the season.

He's our go-to-guy. He certainly didn't play that way this year.

At the end of the year and the playoffs he was fantastic. But we need consistency throughout the year.

If Jagr can't bring that, I expect the Rangers (or at least hope they will) to go a different route this offseason. I'm all for Jagr staying as long as he doesn't break the bank and we can add some more complimentary forwards around him and re-tool the defense.

If he doesn't return, I'd prefer them to go low-key on the offense and to bolster the blue-line with guys like Brad Stuart and Brooks Orpik.

Missed your earlier post saying your weren't sure about how you felt & inferred from the post I quoted that you were in favor of it, since you wanted to see Jagr & the rest walk. My bad. The rest of my rant still stands though...

So whadda guys gonna do about replacing Jagr then, huh?

Really, I couldn't tell you. It likely COULD be Hossa. As I said, not sure how I feel about that.

I wouldn't mind bringing in a guy like Langkow. But I'd prefer to see the Rangers trade for talent. We have an absolute plethora of young players and we are at the contract limit. I'd love to see them shed some young contracts. Even giving up guys like Dawes, Girardi, Tyutin, Sanguinetti, Sauer, etc. for some solid offensive talent.

All for moving our 1st round pick this year, as well.

In the end, that's what I hope for and actually expect this offseason. A big trade from the Rangers.

Too early to worry. Marty still has alot of years ahead of him. Look at Hasek!

Well, theres no denying that it would be hard to manage for ol' Sather.

If he replaces the lost offense of Jagr though.....

And therein lies the root of the problem of Glen Sather's mishandling of the salary cap.

Hossa would be a perfect fit for the NYR and they can certainly afford him. It would justify the outrageous cap hits of Fatboy & Drury as they certainly need a talented, goal scoring winger.

But unfortunately for the bumbling Sather, he needs to replace half of his defense and half of his most productive forwards and he can't do all that and sign Hossa too.

It's either sign Hossa and have just one goal scorer on the entire team or fill in the holes with lesser players and much-hyped rookies. That's the only choice.

That team will regress big-time next season, especially since Cherapanov will not score 30 goals and Sanguinetti most likely won't even last the entire season without being sent back to Hartford.

And we will be here to absorb & laught at all their troubles and they certainly have it coming to them. ;)


Too early to worry. Marty still has alot of years ahead of him. Look at Hasek!

Thank you. I can't understand all of this panic as if the end of his career is imminent.

And as I have said many times before, if lesser goalies like Cam Ward, Khabibulin, Osgood, Vernon and Mike Richter can win Stanley Cups, then there is no reason to believe that any replacement to Brodeur will be such a bad thing. :sarcasm:

With Cam Ward, JS Puffy and one of Osgood/Fleury (probably) winning the Cup since the lockout, I'm not as worried about replacing Marty as I once was. Of course, the rest of our team sucks right now, but having a great goalie isn't the prerequisite it once was.

Osgood is going to probably get 400+ wins in a couple of years and was an Allstar this year. I dont exactly think he deserves to be placed with Fleury. He also has won a cup as a starter before (98)

I think somehow we should try to work out a trade for Al Montoya, and let him develope under marty into what will become the replacement for Marty when he retires...........The Rangers gave up on him because of Queen Henrietta, i think Montoya will be a great goaltender in this league, he be perfect for this team.........Oh and one more thing i believe he is engaged or married now to a girl from Short Hills, NJ if i do recall hearing from a friend............So that woiuld make her happy............Lou come on go get Montoya.............

lets talk about the rangers on the rangers board.... in fact there are 2 threads that talk about it

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=514641&page=9

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=512839

I think somehow we should try to work out a trade for Al Montoya, and let him develope under marty into what will become the replacement for Marty when he retires........... i think Montoya will be a great goaltender in this league, he be perfect for this team.........


Interesting. What do you see in Al Montoya that makes you think he's perfect for the Devils?

Why are we talking about the Rangers? If you want the **** ******* **** ****** Barbara Streisand ****** ****'s to leave, stop talking about their disgusting ****** **** ****** ****** ******* team..
Why are we talking about the Rangers? If you want the **** ******* **** ****** Barbara Streisand ****** ****'s to leave, stop talking about their disgusting ****** **** ****** ****** ******* team..
Why are we talking about the Rangers? If you want the **** ******* **** ****** Barbara Streisand ****** ****'s to leave, stop talking about their disgusting ****** **** ****** ****** ******* team..
Why are we talking about the Rangers? If you want the **** ******* **** ****** Barbara Streisand ****** ****'s to leave, stop talking about their disgusting ****** **** ****** ****** ******* team..

Interesting. What do you see in Al Montoya that makes you think he's perfect for the Devils?

because he went to michigan

Hopefully a stud like a Bernier, Price or Fleury comes along in the next 2 or 3 drafts that we can snag by trading up (assuming we're still good enough to have to trade up).

lets talk about the rangers on the rangers board.... in fact there are 2 threads that talk about it

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=514641&page=9

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=512839

For the record, Devils fans were the ones that brought up Jagr.

I always see Devils fan complaining about the Rangers turning everything into a flame war, yet here is a perfect example of a Rangers fan asking a perfectly respectable question and Devils fans turning into "Yeah, but what about you guys. You're losing Jagr you're ****ed hahahahaha," thus starting a flame war.

I always see Devils fan complaining about the Rangers turning everything into a flame war, yet here is a perfect example of a Rangers fan asking a perfectly respectable question and Devils fans turning into "Yeah, but what about you guys. You're losing Jagr you're ****ed hahahahaha," thus starting a flame war.

Im willing to bet my house that The Chariot knew exactly what our position is in goal.

Everyone and his mother knows Jeff Frazee stinks.

The Chariot is a silly goose and I commend him for his thinly veiled trolling. Let's have a Lundqvist's replacement sticky while we are at it or a Sean Avery TCell countdown hosted by Casey Kassem.

here is a perfect example of a Rangers fan asking a perfectly un-answerable question ...[to] start a flame war.

Fixed.

Forecast 4 years from now ANY starting goaltender in the league and you have a 50/50 shot at being wrong, let alone one that isn't even playing in the NHL yet.

:shakehead

Better yet go back 4 years on any team's roster and compare that to this year's lineup. Point made.

Yeah lets talk about the Queen. How long do you think he has given that he totally cracked under pressure in the playoffs? How many years do you think he has left? When are the Rangers going to replace him?

The Chariot is a silly goose and I commend him for his thinly veiled trolling. Let's have a Lundqvist's replacement sticky while we are at it or a Sean Avery TCell countdown hosted by Casey Kassem.
Sneaky, the whole bunch of em'

Lol, his contract isn't even close to being up, who knows what happens after that? He could retire, he could play until he's in his 40's.

Sneaky, the whole bunch of em'

Yes they are. The false sense of sincerity and or real concern gives me the ****** chills.

This is what I think of when I see threads like this...
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This is what I think of when I see threads like this...
http://blueroof.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/trojan-horse.jpg

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http://static.velvetcache.org/pages/2007/5/25/its-a-trap/tarp-30198.jpg

The Chariot is a silly goose and I commend him for his thinly veiled trolling. Let's have a Lundqvist's replacement sticky while we are at it or a Sean Avery TCell countdown hosted by Casey Kassem.


Come on man the Devils are on MSG/fsn whatever. I watch many Devils games. Game On gives the Devils airtime too. They are a great team to follow along with the Rangers. Great rivalry, some excellent players in Marty and Elias, Gomez. I can appreciate both teams.

Question for Rangers fans...

Is there a clause in Henrik's new contract that allows the Rangers to walk away with clean hands if the NHL reduces the size of goalie pads?

Why are we talking about the Rangers? If you want the **** ******* **** ****** Barbara Streisand ****** ****'s to leave, stop talking about their disgusting ****** **** ****** ****** ******* team.

Whoa.

Question for Rangers fans...

Is there a clause in Henrik's new contract that allows the Rangers to walk away with clean hands if the NHL reduces the size of goalie pads?

Well, they are going to have plenty of room for error as they are going to get 40 goals from Cherapanov and Dubinsky is the best young Center in the NHL, not to mention that Sanguinetti will be an instant shut-down beast of an NHL star, to go along with the still developing Marc Staal who was the best defenseman in the NHL last season because of his last name.

And if worst comes to worst, they always have Al Montoya to become their starter. :sarcasm:

For the record, Devils fans were the ones that brought up Jagr.

I always see Devils fan complaining about the Rangers turning everything into a flame war, yet here is a perfect example of a Rangers fan asking a perfectly respectable question and Devils fans turning into "Yeah, but what about you guys. You're losing Jagr you're ****ed hahahahaha," thus starting a flame war.

i never said it was a ranger fan, i just said this is the devils board so we should probably talk about the devils

Yeah lets talk about the Queen. How long do you think he has given that he totally cracked under pressure in the playoffs? How many years do you think he has left? When are the Rangers going to replace him?

His play in games 4 and 5 in our series with the Pens was him cracking?

If that was him cracking, what was what Brodeur did this year called? Disintegrating?

I think Lundqvist was one of 2 or 3 goalies ever who posted a shutout in an elimination game.

His play in game 5 was absolutely magnificent.

But yeah. He clearly cracked. Great post.

His play in games 4 and 5 in our series with the Pens was him cracking?

If that was him cracking, what was what Brodeur did this year called? Disintegrating?

I think Lundqvist was one of 2 or 3 goalies ever who posted a shutout in an elimination game.

His play in game 5 was absolutely magnificent.

But yeah. He clearly cracked. Great post.

He played well after the team was in a 3-0 hole? That's great.

He played well after the team was in a 3-0 hole? That's great.

It's a team game, Vinnie. Henrik can't win everything himself. If his team gets outshot by 20 ****ing shots in the 5th game and the Rangers don't come out on top... well how can that be his fault?

Some of you guys say some really ridiculous stuff on here at times (which can be said the same of certain Rangers fans as well).

The guy played 2 mediocre-bad games in the series. It's not like his team helped bail him out or anything (far from it, in reality -- and it was like that all damn year).

No real mention of the Parise kid. Do you think he wont be able to make the jump, or the timing is just off with Martys plans?

i never said it was a ranger fan, i just said this is the devils board so we should probably talk about the devils

I'm bored with talking about Eklund rumors and arguing over who Lou should sign or not sign, not to metion endless posting of next year's lines.

I like criticizing the NYR. I can't help it, their misadventures, calamities, miscues & missteps have produced such a plethora of material that it's not even funny.

But I must say, selecting Many Malhotra with the #8 overall pick in 1998 skipping over players like Simon Gagne, Scott Gomez & Alex Tanguay is quite hilarious.

Well, they did get Gomez but will spend about $1 billion for his services.

On the subject of Lundqvist, I just hope the schmucks pads are shortened enough that his five hole actually shows when hes down on the ground. Its pretty ridiculous.

Why do you insist on talking about the NY Rangers. The thread is a query about goalie prospects in the Devils system.

Why do you insist on talking about the NY Rangers. The thread is a query about goalie prospects in the Devils system.
Started by...a Rangers fan.
The subject of his eventual replacement is null and void, no one can predict what will happen 4 to 6 years from now. Did anyone see Cam Ward winning a cup? Carey Price taking a job from Huet?
Thinly veiled potshots is all this thread is.

Started by...a Rangers fan.
The subject of his eventual replacement is null and void, no one can predict what will happen 4 to 6 years from now. Did anyone see Cam Ward winning a cup? Carey Price taking a job from Huet?
Thinly veiled potshots is all this thread is.

Exactly, it would almost be like if a Devils fan went over to the Raggots board and started a serious discussion about what color nail polish Avery's going to sport next season.

Started by...a Rangers fan.
The subject of his eventual replacement is null and void, no one can predict what will happen 4 to 6 years from now. Did anyone see Cam Ward winning a cup? Carey Price taking a job from Huet?
Thinly veiled potshots is all this thread is.


lol pot shots at who?

The NJ Devils play less than 10 miles away from NYC. Whats the big deal taking an interest in their tender prospects? Its local hockey as far as I'm concerned

His play in games 4 and 5 in our series with the Pens was him cracking?

If that was him cracking, what was what Brodeur did this year called? Disintegrating?

I think Lundqvist was one of 2 or 3 goalies ever who posted a shutout in an elimination game.

His play in game 5 was absolutely magnificent.

But yeah. He clearly cracked. Great post.

Yeah, but Brodeur has many cups behind him. How many does Lundqvist have?

He's been in that situation before and he's won a few cups. So now do you see just how ridiculous this thread is? So pardon me if we don't get offended by this incredible stupid thread started by a RANGER fan. Especially when it has been posted over and over AND over by Devils fans already. Go search the posts and READ them. Don't clog our boards with stupid Ranger speculations.


Potshots?

No real mention of the Parise kid. Do you think he wont be able to make the jump, or the timing is just off with Martys plans?


What do you call that?

Parise has already surpassed his performance from last season. He's exactly what we were hoping for and he's only going to get better once he gets the support he needs on the first line.

I guarantee if I went into the Ranger boards and asked when the Rangers were going to trade Staal because of his bad performance this season, the thread will be shut down quick or at the very least, Ranger fans flaming me just like we're flaming you right now.

Yeah, but Brodeur has many cups behind him. How many does Lundqvist have?

He's been in that situation before and he's won a few cups. So now do you see just how ridiculous this thread is? So pardon me if we don't get offended by this incredible stupid thread started by a RANGER fan. Especially when it has been posted over and over AND over by Devils fans already. Go search the posts and READ them. Don't clog our boards with stupid Ranger speculations.


Potshots?




What do you call that?

Parise has already surpassed his performance from last season. He's exactly what we were hoping for and he's only going to get better once he gets the support he needs on the first line.

I guarantee if I went into the Ranger boards and asked when the Rangers were going to trade Staal because of his bad performance this season, the thread will be shut down quick or at the very least, Ranger fans flaming me just like we're flaming you right now.

I think he means Jordan not Zach.

What do you call that?

Parise has already surpassed his performance from last season. He's exactly what we were hoping for and he's only going to get better once he gets the support he needs on the first line.

I was referring to the goaltender prospect Parise, as in Jordan

I was referring to the goaltender prospect Parise, as in Jordan

we dont have a goalie right now that is going to "replace" marty

we dont have a goalie right now that is going to "replace" marty

Do you think Jordan is trade bait or they will just be super slow with bringing him along because theres no rush. Do you think he could be the backup next season... 2010

we dont have a goalie right now that is going to "replace" marty

Exactly. Just like Swedish navy doesn't have aircraft carriers that can replace Henrik's pads.

Do you think Jordan is trade bait or they will just be super slow with bringing him along because theres no rush. Do you think he could be the backup next season... 2010

Jordan just had hip surgery, and there are currently 4 goalies in Lowell including him. Doyle, Caruso (who has shown small glimpses of Marty when I saw him play, it's a shame he isn't 5 years younger), and Frazee. Parise's future in the organization is uncertain at this time.

Do you think Jordan is trade bait or they will just be super slow with bringing him along because theres no rush. Do you think he could be the backup next season... 2010

i think jordan and mike (pandolfo) and stephen (gionta) are here to keep there brothers here, and jordan might back up but it wont be anything permanent

Exactly. Just like Swedish navy doesn't have aircraft carriers that can replace Henrik's pads.

i lol'd for that one

i think jordan and mike (pandolfo) and stephen (gionta) are here to keep there brothers here, and jordan might back up but it wont be anything permanent

I think Mike Pandolfo is gone this offseason. He just plain sucks. Parise isn't a bad goalie, Chicago apparently showed interest at the deadline, but he was hurt.

It's a team game, Vinnie. Henrik can't win everything himself.

Im saving that as my signature.

All I heard from fans around the NHL after the Devils were eleminated was that Brodeur couldnt "carry" them anymore. Brodeur is old, Brodeur sucks blah blah blah...

I even have recollection of Mr Jonathan saying such things.

lol pot shots at who?

The NJ Devils play less than 10 miles away from NYC. Whats the big deal taking an interest in their tender prospects? Its local hockey as far as I'm concerned

Actually...it's 12 miles from mid-town Manhattan! :p:

Exactly. Just like Swedish navy doesn't have aircraft carriers that can replace Henrik's pads.

i lol'd for that one

Me Too. That should be a sig.....

It's a team game, Vinnie. Henrik can't win ANYthing himself. If his team gets outshot by 20 ****ing shots in the 5th game and the Rangers don't come out on top... well how can that be his fault?


fixed.

How can you say that about Henrik and then criticize Brodeur. If you think the Ranger's being outshot is bad what about the devil's awful defense and the even worse offense? How can that be Marty's fault?

We lacked the forward talent that the Rangers have and the blue line was even worse. The only real stars we have on the team are Parise, Elias, Gionta, Madden, Martin and Brodeur. The rest of the team is just support.

I wouldn't consider Gio a star. I consider him lucky for standing in the right spot when he got 48!

I wouldn't consider Gio a star. I consider him lucky for standing in the right spot when he got 48!

Hell yeah! I hate to say it, but Gio will be lucky to touch 30 ever again.

I wouldn't consider Gio a star. I consider him lucky for standing in the right spot when he got 48!

No, anyone who is lucky enough to almost get 50 goals in one season is a star.

From the way he plays and the effort he has every game, I don't see how he can not be a star. We've talked about trading Gionta and I think personally that would be a big mistake. He's one of the pieces of the puzzle on this team and will be key to us winning another cup.

Hell yeah! I hate to say it, but Gio will be lucky to touch 30 ever again.

Goals among RW's in the 3 seasons since the lockout:

Iginla: 135
Alfredsson: 112
Hossa: 111
Gaborik: 110
Jagr: 109
St. Louis: 99
Gionta: 95

Gionta's in very good company. ;)

If he can reach at least 25 goals every year, which he has done and can continue to do, he will remain very valuable to the team.

If we can lose the AHL-quality Power Play, he can very well reach the 30 goal level quite easily.


Im saving that as my signature.

All I heard from fans around the NHL after the Devils were eleminated was that Brodeur couldnt "carry" them anymore. Brodeur is old, Brodeur sucks blah blah blah...

I even have recollection of Mr Jonathan saying such things.

I love it when my fellow Devil fans catch Leviathan in a contradiction! :biglaugh:

No, anyone who is lucky enough to almost get 50 goals in one season is a star.

From the way he plays and the effort he has every game, I don't see how he can not be a star. We've talked about trading Gionta and I think personally that would be a big mistake. He's one of the pieces of the puzzle on this team and will be key to us winning another cup.

One season should not make you a star.

Gio is a good player but not a star

If he was a star he would be netting those shots from just inside the blue line instead of sending them into the goalies chest over and over again

Gio is a very good player when he parks himself in front of the net (he has fantastic hands) but the constant struggle away from the net brings him down to a good player