Get Tomas Kaberle

Have you seen this guy and Patty play at the worlds. This guy could be our defensive answer. Call Fletcher up today while he's dealing with his coach and take him while you can.

Have you seen this guy and Patty play at the worlds. This guy could be our defensive answer. Call Fletcher up today while he's dealing with his coach and take him while you can.

You'd have to give up a lot. Now the Leafs haven't done anything right in a long time, however signing Kaberle to a 4 year 16 million dollar contract was one the best things they have done and I give them full credit for it.

His contract is a steal, we'd have to give up a ton to get him.

I don't think Toronto and New Jersey are good trading partners whatsoever. Kaberle is important to us and I don't think you guys would care to overpay to get him. Maybe a free agent like Brian Campbell would be more cost effective in terms of what you'd have to give up vs dollars and term spent on the contract.

I don't think Toronto and New Jersey are good trading partners whatsoever. Kaberle is important to us and I don't think you guys would care to overpay to get him. Maybe a free agent like Brian Campbell would be more cost effective in terms of what you'd have to give up vs dollars and term spent on the contract.

Agreed. We'd have to give them Parise, and it'd be a straight swap.

Kaberle also has a NTC which he supposedly used to nix a trade to Philly at the trade deadline. The Flyers were going to send Jeff Carter+ for Kaberle. So I'm thinking it's highly unlikely that Kaberle is even a possibility for us.

Agreed. We'd have to give them Parise, and it'd be a straight swap.

I think Paul Martin + would get a deal done. The + would probably be a 1st round pick and Zajac (and really, that's better than moving Parise for him...).

I think Paul Martin + would get a deal done. The + would probably be a 1st round pick and Zajac (and really, that's better than moving Parise for him...).

Which is probably a backwards move.

Dont get me wrong having Kaberle would be great, but NJ doesnt have the depth to pull off a major trade like that.

Which is probably a backwards move.

Dont get me wrong having Kaberle would be great, but NJ doesnt have the depth to pull off a major trade like that.

Yeah, but Kaberle is young. I believe he has a decent amount of time left on his contract. And he's a top 10 defenseman in the league. NJ (and numerous other teams) lack that. He's a guy you can build around, as well, IMO.

Big upgrade over a guy like Martin. Especially if you can sign a high caliber UFA (Redden or Campbell) to play with him or with another defenseman on another pairing. You could have a lethal PP with him and a guy like Campbell on the backline.

His NTC is the main problem.

A pipe dream, a nice thought though.

I think Paul Martin + would get a deal done. The + would probably be a 1st round pick and Zajac (and really, that's better than moving Parise for him...).

Tomas Kaberle is a much more effective defenseman than Paul Martin, who is only 3 years younger, and only makes $1.2 million less per year. I don't think Toronto would be really that enthusiastic about that sort of swap and while Zajac is nice, and the first is always a bonus, it's hardly something that would convince you to make the move. The Leafs would want a young impact forward along the lines of a Parise. They had a deal on the table with Philly for Jeff Carter and a 1st, which a lot of us on here weren't even that happy with, so the trade wouldn't be a quantity type deal.

I don't think it's a good match, the Devils would clearly be better off having an expensive Brian Campbell + Martin + Zajac and that first in their pocket than Kaberle. If the Leafs ever wanted to move Kaberle, we'd make sure his great contract was counterbalanced with someone younger with great upside, and probably at another position.

im almost positive that kaberle wouldn't wave his ntc, especially to come to the Devils after Janssen ran him a couple of years ago.

im almost positive that kaberle wouldn't wave his ntc, especially to come to the Devils after Janssen ran him a couple of years ago.
I doubt hes holding grudges after that especially since Janssen plays for STL now, but anyway he will not waive his NTC.

His NTC is the main problem.From nhlscap.com (http://nhlscap.com/no_trade.htm#list):

Tomas Kaberle, TOR - NTC [conditional; if Leafs miss playoffs in 2008 or 2009, can be traded without his consent in either the following offseason or prior to the 2009-10 season; I'm checking on this to make sure which it is]

From nhlscap.com (http://nhlscap.com/no_trade.htm#list):

Tomas Kaberle, TOR - NTC [conditional; if Leafs miss playoffs in 2008 or 2009, can be traded without his consent in either the following offseason or prior to the 2009-10 season; I'm checking on this to make sure which it is]
Oh really...

Interesting.

Just a question about the salary cap? What will be the amount we will have to go after free agents this offseason? or can this not be answered since the cap might go up? thanks

kaberle is one of my favorite defensemen in the league and is also easily one of the most underrated (also a great bargain at only $4.25 million ) but i just dont think the devils have the assets to get him.

Great skater, great passer no doubt. I don't think he's as smart as Martin defensively though. Trading Martin for Kaberle doesn't solve their problems imo. If he could be had some other way that doesn't cost the team so much (which is unlikely) I'd love to have him as a Devil.

kaberle is one of my favorite defensemen in the league and is also easily one of the most underrated (also a great bargain at only $4.25 million ) but i just dont think the devils have the assets to get him.

But we are dealing with the Maple Leafs. This is the same organization that traded us a first round pick (in the Lindros draft which ended being #3 and Scott Niedermayer) for Tom Kurvers and they aren't much more competant now. I'm sure Lou can find a way to rip them off.

Pipe dream. Lou is better off giving Campbell $7 million per than give up the assets Toronto would ask. Think Zajac and Martin.

Pipe dream. Lou is better off giving Campbell $7 million per than give up the assets Toronto would ask. Think Zajac and Martin.

We don't want Zajac and Martin. Think about the serious discussions where Kaberle's name has come up. The original Lindros trade, in a package for a young Lecavalier, as a centerpiece to a Pronger deal, and a deal for Jeff Carter and a 1st, which many in Toronto felt was undervalue. Zajac and Martin aren't that great. Martin is 27, already makes $3 million, so it's not like we're getting back a real future, and Zajac is nice, but not that nice.

But yeah, Campbell is the better option.

Great skater, great passer no doubt. I don't think he's as smart as Martin defensively though. Trading Martin for Kaberle doesn't solve their problems imo. If he could be had some other way that doesn't cost the team so much (which is unlikely) I'd love to have him as a Devil.

I think he's a big time upgrade over Martin both offensively and defensively.

Kaberle's defense is so underrated it's not even funny.

We don't want Zajac and Martin. Think about the serious discussions where Kaberle's name has come up. The original Lindros trade, in a package for a young Lecavalier, as a centerpiece to a Pronger deal, and a deal for Jeff Carter and a 1st, which many in Toronto felt was undervalue. Zajac and Martin aren't that great. Martin is 27, already makes $3 million, so it's not like we're getting back a real future, and Zajac is nice, but not that nice.

But yeah, Campbell is the better option.

And to be honest, I rather keep both Martin and Zajac than trade them for Kaberle.

Id rather keep Martin.

I think he's a big time upgrade over Martin both offensively and defensively.

Kaberle's defense is so underrated it's not even funny.

I've been watching the guy for years now, and I just don't agree. He's not a liability defensively or anything, I just think Martin's better.

Playing with McCabe can't help either..