Has Lou Deleted Holik & Gomez from Devils History?

I'm sitting here waiting for 5pm and thinking about the murals at the Rock and don't remember seeing either Holik or Gomez in any of them. Yet, I know Johnny Mac is there and I believe even Bruce Driver. Can anyone tell me if I'm wrong about those two?

I'm sitting here waiting for 5pm and thinking about the murals at the Rock and don't remember seeing either Holik or Gomez in any of them. Yet, I know Johnny Mac is there and I believe even Bruce Driver. Can anyone tell me if I'm wrong about those two?
John MacLean and Bruce Driver were and are both huge parts of Devils history. Scott Gomez doesn't deserve to be on that mural, he wasn't even close to what MacLean was to this franchise.

Besides, it probably has something to do with the fact that MacLean and Driver are both retired. Gomez and Holik are not, although when Holik's career is finished, he'll be remembered as a Devil.

John MacLean and Bruce Driver were and are both huge parts of Devils history. Scott Gomez doesn't deserve to be on that mural, he wasn't even close to what MacLean was to this franchise.

Besides, it probably has something to do with the fact that MacLean and Driver are both retired. Gomez and Holik are not, although when Holik's career is finished, he'll be remembered as a Devil.

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I'm sitting here waiting for 5pm and thinking about the murals at the Rock and don't remember seeing either Holik or Gomez in any of them. Yet, I know Johnny Mac is there and I believe even Bruce Driver. Can anyone tell me if I'm wrong about those two?Why the hell would you honor them by painting murals of them? Are you freaking kidding me?

Here's how Lou Lamoriello "dleted Holik & Gomez from Devils History" on the team's website:

Bobby Holik (http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?page=HistoricalPlayerDetail&pkey=8447958&service=page)
Scott Gomez (http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?page=HistoricalPlayerDetail&pkey=8467351&service=page)

I saw Gomez's name and number on the bathroom stall saying something like "Call this number for a good ******"

does that count?

I don't understand why there would be a painting of Scott Gomez in the Rock. All of the paintings (other than the Langenbrunner Captain painting by the parking deck entrance) are historical.

John MacLean and Bruce Driver were and are both huge parts of Devils history. Scott Gomez doesn't deserve to be on that mural, he wasn't even close to what MacLean was to this franchise.

Besides, it probably has something to do with the fact that MacLean and Driver are both retired. Gomez and Holik are not, although when Holik's career is finished, he'll be remembered as a Devil.

Niedermayer is in one of the three cup murals and he's still playing. I'm telling you, if Gomez went to LA and Holik signed with Atlanta to begin with, Lou might have fitted both guys in. ;)

Why the hell would you honor them by painting murals of them? Are you freaking kidding me?

Here's how Lou Lamoriello "dleted Holik & Gomez from Devils History" on the team's website:

Bobby Holik (http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?page=HistoricalPlayerDetail&pkey=8447958&service=page)
Scott Gomez (http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?page=HistoricalPlayerDetail&pkey=8467351&service=page)


Well, both those guys are no where to be seen in the Rock, while Neidermayer is. And both Gomez and Holik were part of our history and on two cup winners. I just find it funny that the two that signed with the Rangers aren't and Nieds is.

Why the hell would you honor them by painting murals of them? Are you freaking kidding me?

Exactly. :thumbu:

Well, both those guys are no where to be seen in teh Rock, while Neidermayer is. And both Gomez and Holik were part of our history and on two cup winners. I just find it funny that the two that signed with the Rangers aren't and Nieds is.

Abelein was on two cup winners too. You want him on the murals?

Friesen has a better shot on the murals than Gomez.

I just made a mural of Gomez in my toilet after drinking Guinness all last night.

John MacLean and Bruce Driver were and are both huge parts of Devils history. Scott Gomez doesn't deserve to be on that mural, he wasn't even close to what MacLean was to this franchise.

Besides, it probably has something to do with the fact that MacLean and Driver are both retired. Gomez and Holik are not, although when Holik's career is finished, he'll be remembered as a Devil.

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....one of my fav jerseys ever. sure wish theyd get the whale back in ct :(

I'm sitting here waiting for 5pm and thinking about the murals at the Rock and don't remember seeing either Holik or Gomez in any of them. Yet, I know Johnny Mac is there and I believe even Bruce Driver. Can anyone tell me if I'm wrong about those two?

That was a very legimate question and it's great to see some of the nice responses from fellow Devil fans. ;)

To be honest with you, I was never really into artwork or things like statues (Wayne Gretzky statue in Edmonton) at sporting venues. That speaks of idolatry. Idolatry should be reserved for that one particular team the worships a Certain Center and just one year of their 82 year non-history.

I'm fine with the exhibit on the historical jerseys of the Devils and like the concept of all the high school hockey jerseys hanging in the corridors (which we borrowed from the Minnesota Wild.) The arena is filled with the red & black color scheme, there is a Devils team store and such fine detail as the Devils logo engraved onto the plumbing at the top of the urinals.

And finally, the items that really stand out in my mind are the plethora of Championship banners and of course, the Numbers #3 & #4 all hanging from the rafters.

These are all very tasteful items and more than enough to honor such a great franchise.

But as far as the artwork is concerned, it is quite gaudy and amateurish if you ask me. Actually, the quality of the artwork is quite horrible. It looks like something we made in Mrs. Krause's art class in 4th grade.

I heard all the hype here about this supposed, great artwork and was extremely disappointed to see it when I finally made it to the Rock.

I always have felt those murals were totally unnecessary and look quite cheesy actually.

It ruins the clean, elegant feel you get walking down the corridors of such a clean, beautiful and bright building as you look up and see the monstrosity of a all that elementary school artwork.

Abelein was on two cup winners too. You want him on the murals?

Friesen has a better shot on the murals than Gomez.

Are you sure Abelein isn't? I never really looked for him. Would have to check the three cup murals. But I do no for sure who isn't

And believe me, I'm not advocating having Gomez or Holik included in any of the Rock murals, ever! I just love the fact that Lou will never include those two.

John MacLean and Bruce Driver were and are both huge parts of Devils history. Scott Gomez doesn't deserve to be on that mural, he wasn't even close to what MacLean was to this franchise.

Besides, it probably has something to do with the fact that MacLean and Driver are both retired. Gomez and Holik are not, although when Holik's career is finished, he'll be remembered as a Devil.

I remember Holik as a Whaler.

The poster they gave out opening night prominent displays Gomez on it.

I remember Holik as a Whaler.

The poster they gave out opening night prominent displays Gomez on it.

Yea, that pisses me off. Its him, Elias, and Brylin. I really don't know why its him over Parise...

I remember Holik as a Whaler.

The poster they gave out opening night prominent displays Gomez on it.
Holik spent a whole two seasons in Hartford, and they weren't even his best seasons...

Abelein was on two cup winners too. You want him on the murals?

Friesen has a better shot on the murals than Gomez.
Yeah! Albelin deserves a mention somewhere!

I loved that guy.

That was a very legimate question and it's great to see some of the nice responses from fellow Devil fans. ;)

To be honest with you, I was never really into artwork or things like statues (Wayne Gretzky statue in Edmonton) at sporting venues. That speaks of idolatry. Idolatry should be reserved for that one particular team the worships a Certain Center and just one year of their 82 year non-history.

I'm fine with the exhibit on the historical jerseys of the Devils and like the concept of all the high school hockey jerseys hanging in the corridors (which we borrowed from the Minnesota Wild.) The arena is filled with the red & black color scheme, there is a Devils team store and such fine detail as the Devils logo engraved onto the plumbing at the top of the urinals.

And finally, the items that really stand out in my mind are the plethora of Championship banners and of course, the Numbers #3 & #4 all hanging from the rafters.

These are all very tasteful items and more than enough to honor such a great franchise.

But as far as the artwork is concerned, it is quite gaudy and amateurish if you ask me. Actually, the quality of the artwork is quite horrible. It looks like something we made in Mrs. Krause's art class in 4th grade.

I heard all the hype here about this supposed, great artwork and was extremely disappointed to see it when I finally made it to the Rock.

I always have felt those murals were totally unnecessary and look quite cheesy actually.

It ruins the clean, elegant feel you get walking down the corridors of such a clean, beautiful and bright building as you look up and see the monstrosity of a all that elementary school artwork.

Without them, the place would be too sterile. They look good from a distance, like you said, up close... not as good.

Overall, I like them.

Without them, the place would be too sterile. They look good from a distance, like you said, up close... not as good.

Overall, I like them.
Agree. I like them too, except for that one on the main concourse right after you walk up and heading toward the escalator to go up to the upper concourse..the one with the big Devils players with ridiculously tiny heads. The hell is that?

I LOL'ed when Parise was giving a tour of the Rock and admitted that he had no idea what the point of that painting was.

Agree. I like them too, except for that one on the main concourse right after you walk up and heading toward the escalator to go up to the upper concourse..the one with the big Devils players with ridiculously tiny heads. The hell is that?

I LOL'ed when Parise was giving a tour of the Rock and admitted that he had no idea what the point of that painting was.

*** IS THAT ABOUT???? For the life of me, I just cannot understand it. Maybe if I was high, it would make sense. Seriously, they kind of scare me. Maybe we can replace that hippie crack stuff with real things, like team photos or something...or a big pic of Arnott netting the 2000 cup winner...:huh:

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whaler fo life
http://www.triplecrowncollectibles.com/nss-folder/pictures/HartfordWhalersCrestGrey.jpg

....one of my fav jerseys ever. sure wish theyd get the whale back in ct :(Me too. Im the proud owner of a Whalers GM jersey. Don't forget about the Whalers theme song Brass Bonanza that song still gives me goosebumps to this day.:nod:

Me too. Im the proud owner of a Whalers GM jersey. Don't forget about the Whalers theme song Brass Bonanza that song still gives me goosebumps to this day.:nod:

I actually have a Whalers hoodie. so bad ass.

*** IS THAT ABOUT???? For the life of me, I just cannot understand it. Maybe if I was high, it would make sense. Seriously, they kind of scare me. Maybe we can replace that hippie crack stuff with real things, like team photos or something...or a big pic of Arnott netting the 2000 cup winner...:huh:

That's a good idea. I'd rather have a mix of color & black & white photos honoring each year in Devils history, spreads of certain players, etc. Kind of like a rotating exhibit that changes each season, etc.

It would sure beat those Crayola murals up their now. :shakehead

The only artwork I like is the panorama of Devils coaches behind the bench. That one is of a particularly higher quality and I was really eager to see. It was smaller than I had expected, but it is still a keeper nonetheless.

That's a good idea. I'd rather have a mix of color & black & white photos honoring each year in Devils history, spreads of certain players, etc. Kind of like a rotating exhibit that changes each season, etc.

It would sure beat those Crayola murals up their now. :shakehead

The only artwork I like is the panorama of Devils coaches behind the bench. That one is of a particularly higher quality and I was really eager to see. It was smaller than I had expected, but it is still a keeper nonetheless.

There's a couple of a more "normal" kind by the restaurant. I know there was at least one Claude Lemieux.

It seems no Devils fan really cares that John MacLean left for the Rangers now that he's back. I'm sure that if Gomez becomes an assistant coach for the Devils, you guys will embrace him again.

It seems no Devils fan really cares that John MacLean left for the Rangers now that he's back. I'm sure that if Gomez becomes an assistant coach for the Devils, you guys will embrace him again.

Those were two completely different situations. Also, I want Johnny Mac replaced next season.

It seems no Devils fan really cares that John MacLean left for the Rangers now that he's back. I'm sure that if Gomez becomes an assistant coach for the Devils, you guys will embrace him again.
He didn't leave for the Rangers. He was traded to San Jose, and then came to the Rangers so he could move back to the Tri-State area. It's a completely different ballgame.

Not to mention he had a big falling out with the Devils that made it understandable in the end.

At least he didn't get treated like a piece of human garbage by us. He was held responsible for all of the high-paid suckfests that didn't get it done.

That was a very legimate question and it's great to see some of the nice responses from fellow Devil fans. ;)

To be honest with you, I was never really into artwork or things like statues (Wayne Gretzky statue in Edmonton) at sporting venues. That speaks of idolatry. Idolatry should be reserved for that one particular team the worships a Certain Center and just one year of their 82 year non-history.

When they do the renovations on the Garden, they should add a golden calf with a Messier jersey...

I'm fine with the exhibit on the historical jerseys of the Devils and like the concept of all the high school hockey jerseys hanging in the corridors (which we borrowed from the Minnesota Wild.) The arena is filled with the red & black color scheme, there is a Devils team store and such fine detail as the Devils logo engraved onto the plumbing at the top of the urinals.

Noticed the toilet engravings, as well. Tasteful. Dare I say, "classy" even.

And finally, the items that really stand out in my mind are the plethora of Championship banners and of course, the Numbers #3 & #4 all hanging from the rafters.

These are all very tasteful items and more than enough to honor such a great franchise.

But as far as the artwork is concerned, it is quite gaudy and amateurish if you ask me. Actually, the quality of the artwork is quite horrible. It looks like something we made in Mrs. Krause's art class in 4th grade.

You had Mrs. Krause too?

I heard all the hype here about this supposed, great artwork and was extremely disappointed to see it when I finally made it to the Rock.

I always have felt those murals were totally unnecessary and look quite cheesy actually.

It ruins the clean, elegant feel you get walking down the corridors of such a clean, beautiful and bright building as you look up and see the monstrosity of all that elementary school artwork.

I'll go so far as to say ALL sports related "artwork" stinks, stretching the very definition of "artwork" to its very breaking point.

I love sports memorabilia and sports photography, and have collected trading cards since I was a kid. Any and all artifacts of the game are appreciated.

But the second a paintbrush hits canvas, or, even worse, pastels hit a piece of paper, and there is a "sports theme" in the air -- look out! -- something totally craptastic is about to happen.

If you read the definition of "Hideous" in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the first listing is "Any sports lithograph." For real, you can look it up.

It seems no Devils fan really cares that John MacLean left for the Rangers now that he's back. I'm sure that if Gomez becomes an assistant coach for the Devils, you guys will embrace him again.
:shakehead
Johnny Mac didnt cry for years about wanting to go to the West Coast to be with Carlos and Co. and then bolt 10 miles east.

Cue the "you would love Avery if he was on your team" crap...

Honestly, it is a different situation than that of Johnny Mac's. I also love reading in the paper about gomez saying he wanted to stay in jersey but wasn't getting the playing time he wanted, then you hear how he always wanted to go to the rags, then its that he wanted to go out west to be closer to his home...his story has flip-flopped more than Clinton's campaign.