The secret to beating the Calgary Flames.

Run Robyn Regehr. Even if you have to take a minor or two every game.

The Flames have two name defencemen; Dion Phaneuf and Robyn Regehr. Dion Phaneuf will make some hits and get a goal or two on the powerplay but he isn't a difference maker. Robyn Regehr will be if you let him.

Get this straight right from the start before anyone starts saying Regehr can't be a difference maker in this series. I don't think Regehr is even an average skater. He has next to nothing for offence and can't move the puck out of his zone effectively with a first pass to save his life. After this, you might wonder how I believe Regehr will be a difference maker in this series. I will tell you.

He plays the boards well, behind the net as well as the half boards. He has historically has gotten away with charging and boarding penalties throughout his career. A slow defenceman with little or no offensive upside and average defensively abilities gets mention whenever Canada puts together an international team? Wonder why? His ability to take the other teams' top players out of the game; if not physically then mentally.

This is the important part!!! If your forecheckers consistently take the body with a vengeance at every opportunity, Regehr will be a non-factor in this series. I know what I'm talking about.

I know fans of a team don't have that much influence over how their team performs on the ice, but if you go to any of the games and Regehr gets hit, stand up and cheer. Talk about punishing Regehr in every thread. Local scribes do visit hockey forums and get much of their material from them. A story on how the Shark's forecheckers have to punish the Flames defense would be a blessing for your team.

Don't unerestimate the Flames. Good luck, I will watch all the games.

TAKE NO PRISONERS.

Iron Mike loves Regehr.
Regehr will have to fight too in this series. He'll pay. He'll pay big time. Shelley might eat his ear and then scream: "Aaaaargghh" Then yell: "I'm like freakin yellow Hulk!" I want to eat some tomatoes with your toes!!!" "Aaaaaargghh"

Iron Mike loves Regehr.
Regehr will have to fight too in this series. He'll pay. He'll pay big time. Shelley might eat his ear and then scream: "Aaaaargghh" Then yell: "I'm like freakin yellow Hulk!" I want to eat some tomatoes with your toes!!!" "Aaaaaargghh"



that, my friend, is the correct attitude. hope it happens early in the series. before Regehr is responsible for one of your first or second line forwards twisting a knee or jamming a wrist. because it will happen if you don't take it to this guy from the very first shift of the first game.

Run Robyn Regehr. Even if you have to take a minor or two every game.

The Flames have two name defencemen; Dion Phaneuf and Robyn Regehr. Dion Phaneuf will make some hits and get a goal or two on the powerplay but he isn't a difference maker. Robyn Regehr will be if you let him.

Get this straight right from the start before anyone starts saying Regehr can't be a difference maker in this series. I don't think Regehr is even an average skater. He has next to nothing for offence and can't move the puck out of his zone effectively with a first pass to save his life. After this, you might wonder how I believe Regehr will be a difference maker in this series. I will tell you.

He plays the boards well, behind the net as well as the half boards. He has historically has gotten away with charging and boarding penalties throughout his career. A slow defenceman with little or no offensive upside and average defensively abilities gets mention whenever Canada puts together an international team? Wonder why? His ability to take the other teams' top players out of the game; if not physically then mentally.

This is the important part!!! If your forecheckers consistently take the body with a vengeance at every opportunity, Regehr will be a non-factor in this series. I know what I'm talking about.

I know fans of a team don't have that much influence over how their team performs on the ice, but if you go to any of the games and Regehr gets hit, stand up and cheer. Talk about punishing Regehr in every thread. Local scribes do visit hockey forums and get much of their material from them. A story on how the Shark's forecheckers have to punish the Flames defense would be a blessing for your team.

Don't unerestimate the Flames. Good luck, I will watch all the games.

TAKE NO PRISONERS.

I hope Regehr runs Hemskey again, Damn Oiler fans.:sarcasm:

Regher is going to get his, soon, bank on it.

CALGARY SUCKS!!!

I take it you're from Edmonton?

Brazilians hurt, no doubt about that - they definitely take the body with a vengeance :innocent:

I still dislike the Oilers and their fans.
However this is a good point. Regehr is probably one of the more underrated D-men in the league and hitting him hard and often will be important to the sharks' success.
I expect to see Grier, Shelley (if he gets time), Mitchell, and Clowe to make him uncomfortable. In my dream world, Joe would even get in on the physicality because he needs to let other teams know that he can bruise with the best of 'em (hello Matt Cooke).
Running the cycle puck possession on the boards is how the Sharks score anyways. Seems like they never get the odd-man breaks, which is probably a good thing because that means the suffocating defensive style is hard at work.

Let's just stop all the posturing and speculating and PLAY THE DAMN GAMES!

Brazilians hurt, no doubt about that - they definitely take the body with a vengeance :innocent:

Naw, man they're so smooth. They just pass all the time and get so into it that they forget there's a game goin on.

I still dislike the Oilers and their fans.
However this is a good point. Regehr is probably one of the more underrated D-men in the league and hitting him hard and often will be important to the sharks' success.
I expect to see Grier, Shelley (if he gets time), Mitchell, and Clowe to make him uncomfortable. In my dream world, Joe would even get in on the physicality because he needs to let other teams know that he can bruise with the best of 'em (hello Matt Cooke).
Running the cycle puck possession on the boards is how the Sharks score anyways. Seems like they never get the odd-man breaks, which is probably a good thing because that means the suffocating defensive style is hard at work.

Let's just stop all the posturing and speculating and PLAY THE DAMN GAMES!

Oiler fans know the game. I started playing hockey when I was probably about five. Most likely laced up skates and had a mini stick before that. I watch a lot of hockey, not just the NHL. I can name the vast majority of the players in the NHL and give a brief breakdown of them. You know what, I don't have an uncommon knowledge of hockey when you compare me to your average Oiler fan. Because most of us have played the game or followed it from a very young age. Most of us know every coach in the NHL, and know what their system of play and tactics are.

In my opinion, if you don't key on this particular player every single shift, and go after him, I can see him making a huge difference in this series. I see a very real chance of the Sharks getting upset in the first round. Regehr, if left to do what he does best, will injure Joe Thornton or another of your stars whith a dirty check early in this series. I use Thornton as an example because he is most potent offensively from the exact spot Regehr is widely known to put players head first into the boards with extreme force and no regaurds for the rules. I can close my eyes and see the play this very instance. If Regehr is targeted, he backs away quickly from illegal hits and most likely will become a non-factor.

Oiler fans know the game. I started playing hockey when I was probably about five. Most likely laced up skates and had a mini stick before that. I watch a lot of hockey, not just the NHL. I can name the vast majority of the players in the NHL and give a brief breakdown of them. You know what, I don't have an uncommon knowledge of hockey when you compare me to your average Oiler fan. Because most of us have played the game or followed it from a very young age. Most of us know every coach in the NHL, and know what their system of play and tactics are.

In my opinion, if you don't key on this particular player every single shift, and go after him, I can see him making a huge difference in this series. I see a very real chance of the Sharks getting upset in the first round. Regehr, if left to do what he does best, will injure Joe Thornton or another of your stars whith a dirty check early in this series. I use Thornton as an example because he is most potent offensively from the exact spot Regehr is widely known to put players head first into the boards with extreme force and no regaurds for the rules. I can close my eyes and see the play this very instance. If Regehr is targeted, he backs away quickly from illegal hits and most likely will become a non-factor.

You don't need to be offended, it was just a silly jab.

By the way, most of the 'so called experts' from the Canadian media are taking the stance of Patrick Marleau being the determining factor in this series. If he shows up and contributes in a meaningful way, Sharks win. If he's a floater, Sharks lose or at least could be in for a 7 game series.

If Shelley, Grier, and Rissmiller do their job, we're good ...

You don't need to be offended, it was just a silly jab.

No worries, I took it as exactly that. I wish the Sharks the best in this series. I just posted with the attitude that I did so your fans would be able to see a very real tactic that the Flames will use to get the upper hand and earn an upset in this series.

By the way, most of the 'so called experts' from the Canadian media are taking the stance of Patrick Marleau being the determining factor in this series. If he shows up and contributes in a meaningful way, Sharks win. If he's a floater, Sharks lose or at least could be in for a 7 game series.

I disagree. The Sharks CAN win even if the Flames shut down Patty. It's the third line I am more worried about. If they get run over then it is game over for the Flames. Of course that is not the only "factor" but there's a lot riding on the performance of that line.
And then there's Ron: he needs to outcoach or at least match Keenan. If Keenan has his way then it won't matter how Marleau plays.

If Shelley, Grier, and Rissmiller do their job, we're good ...

I think Grier is a very good player and an even better person. He knows his role and fulfills it. Notice how much sweat is pouring of the guy when he finishes a shift. The only knock on him other than his skating is that you never know when he will bring his 'A' game, meaning he hardly ever competes physically hard enough for a dude his size. Still Rosey is a cerebral player, if he hits consistently, he will be a positive contributor to your teams fortunes. He needs to line up the D and let them have it. From the top of my head I believe he plays the wrong side to take runs at Regher.

I disagree. The Sharks CAN win even if the Flames shut down Patty. It's the third line I am more worried about. If they get run over then it is game over for the Flames. Of course that is not the only "factor" but there's a lot riding on the performance of that line.
And then there's Ron: he needs to outcoach or at least match Keenan. If Keenan has his way then it won't matter how Marleau plays.

I agree, Canadian media is more than a little biased when it comes to hockey. thus the quotes around the so called experts part...

I disagree. The Sharks CAN win even if the Flames shut down Patty. It's the third line I am more worried about. If they get run over then it is game over for the Flames. Of course that is not the only "factor" but there's a lot riding on the performance of that line.
And then there's Ron: he needs to outcoach or at least match Keenan. If Keenan has his way then it won't matter how Marleau plays.

Well they are going by how the team has been. As bad of a leader Patty is IMO, this team relates its play to his success. While the Sharks can win without him, they tend to have a harder time about it. After all, the Sharks got hot when Patty woke up.

Want to know the secret to beating the flames?

Do not, under any circumstances, piss off Igilna.

I'm not kidding here. Contain him, keep him from scoring but don't try to get under his skin. He will mutate into a scoring machine and make the Sharks look like a Pee-wee team all by himself.

The flames have been playing like a bunch of pylons this season and they're a one lined team. Shut down the 1st line without pissing them off and they're going to be golfing before everyone knows it.

I bet the OP has his Hemsky jersey on as he writes the bold parts in his posts about Regehr and all these dangerous charging and boarding hits he should be called on, but never seems to get penalized for.

Want to know the secret to beating the flames?

Do not, under any circumstances, piss off Igilna.

I'm not kidding here. Contain him, keep him from scoring but don't try to get under his skin. He will mutate into a scoring machine and make the Sharks look like a Pee-wee team all by himself.

The flames have been playing like a bunch of pylons this season and they're a one lined team. Shut down the 1st line without pissing them off and they're going to be golfing before everyone knows it.

Mostly disagree... I have a great deal of respect for Iginla. I only rate Ovechkin and Kovalchuk as being better at scoring from coming off the half boards. He has great anticipation from the side and in front of the net. Although he lacks the passing talent of Thornton, overall I rate Iginla over him because he produces in heavy competition. To me Thornton has yet to prove to me that he can produce when it counts.

Iginla isn't perfect. He is easy to goad into selfish penalties and isn't the hardest player to check. His five on five play is not very strong; talking about foot speed and urgency to get back into the play. I believe a first on first line match up would be preferable to a third line checking job.

Two things are guaranteed with Iginla.

#1. He will provide the majority of the Flames offence and there is little doubt that he will score even strength and on the power play. He can be checked effectively, does not posses an extra gear and can have the puck knocked of his stick. He will not beat you with speed. He will beat you with deceptive power moves, and his underrated but accurate shot.

#2. He will fight the defenceman who is responsible for checking him at least once, probably more than once. He will fight in the last two minutes of the game. He will fight with his shield on getting under the skin of the Sharks. Fighting in the last minutes of the game is an infraction in the NHL. It can warrant a major and a game misconduct. Don't look for it to be called. I guarantee it will not be called. Time for your D to grow a set:sarcasm:

Mostly disagree... I have a great deal of respect for Iginla. I only rate Ovechkin and Kovalchuk as being better at scoring from coming off the half boards. He has great anticipation from the side and in front of the net. Although he lacks the passing talent of Thornton, overall I rate Iginla over him because he produces in heavy competition. To me Thornton has yet to prove to me that he can produce when it counts.

Iginla isn't perfect. He is easy to goad into selfish penalties and isn't the hardest player to check. His five on five play is not very strong; talking about foot speed and urgency to get back into the play. I believe a first on first line match up would be preferable to a third line checking job.

That may be true....theoretically. He definitely has the tools but the rest of the team can't put up squat when his line is being shut down. If the Sharks can throw up a shutdown line that can negate his output...which isn't that hard (again, without ticking him off) the rest of the team can't pick up the slack 90% of the time. He could have won the scoring title if he wasn't slacking off part of the time this season. I know his numbers don't show it but after seeing him numerous times this season (10+) he and the rest of the team are pretty one dimensional and predictable.

I bet the OP has his Hemsky jersey on as he writes the bold parts in his posts about Regehr and all these dangerous charging and boarding hits he should be called on, but never seems to get penalized for.


Yes, I have a general dislike for the Flames. I will break down their 3 top centers.

Langkow is very good at working the boards. He will outwork your D plain and simple. Is good at starting the forecheck and moving the puck in the cycle. He isn't overly skilled and not a fast skater however. He will score big goals and set them up if he isn't checked hard and often, and at key times. He works down low like an animal but he doesn't have the physical make up to do it for a 7 game series. Whenever a clean check or physical play is available down low it should be taken. He is a player that can be worn down as the series goes on. Note: he has had a concussion this year, thus he may be less likely to take a hit to make a play, usually his bread and butter.

Conroy is a shifty vet with good speed and competition. Good speed but his hands are not what they used to be. He is coming of a rib or back injury. That should be taken into account. He got the injury from an open ice hit. Look to make the same play again for success.

Lombardi has speed galour and a deceptive snap shot as well as a hard slapper, not the most accurate. He can pull the goaltender wide and score. The book on him is he cannot handle the puck at any speed without looking at his stick. He is a walking concussion. He will never even see the defenceman coming. High risk high reward. Go out of position to take a run at him as he will be looking at his feet whenever he has the puck.

Not sure about any of their faceoff %'s. If you are interested look it up. As they line up at center is a weakness for them and you can take advantage of it. Keenan wanted an upgrade at this position but Sutter couldn't or wouldn't pull the trigger.

Run Robyn Regehr. Even if you have to take a minor or two every game.

The Flames have two name defencemen; Dion Phaneuf and Robyn Regehr. Dion Phaneuf will make some hits and get a goal or two on the powerplay but he isn't a difference maker. Robyn Regehr will be if you let him.

Get this straight right from the start before anyone starts saying Regehr can't be a difference maker in this series. I don't think Regehr is even an average skater. He has next to nothing for offence and can't move the puck out of his zone effectively with a first pass to save his life. After this, you might wonder how I believe Regehr will be a difference maker in this series. I will tell you.

He plays the boards well, behind the net as well as the half boards. He has historically has gotten away with charging and boarding penalties throughout his career. A slow defenceman with little or no offensive upside and average defensively abilities gets mention whenever Canada puts together an international team? Wonder why? His ability to take the other teams' top players out of the game; if not physically then mentally.

This is the important part!!! If your forecheckers consistently take the body with a vengeance at every opportunity, Regehr will be a non-factor in this series. I know what I'm talking about.

I know fans of a team don't have that much influence over how their team performs on the ice, but if you go to any of the games and Regehr gets hit, stand up and cheer. Talk about punishing Regehr in every thread. Local scribes do visit hockey forums and get much of their material from them. A story on how the Shark's forecheckers have to punish the Flames defense would be a blessing for your team.

Don't unerestimate the Flames. Good luck, I will watch all the games.

TAKE NO PRISONERS.


man youre pretty right with that description of robyn. However, i dont understand how could going after regehr make him non-factor (if we don count injury). would he hit less? would he start freaking out and making stupid penalties? No. He knows how to behave in physical conflicts.

man youre pretty right with that description of robyn. However, i dont understand how could going after regehr make him non-factor (if we don count injury). would he hit less? would he start freaking out and making stupid penalties? No. He knows how to behave in physical conflicts.

Regehr is the prototypical school yard bully. He will taunt you, he will run you to no end. He will do this until you give him some of his own medicine. Once you start playing an ultra physical game with him, he goes away and is an absolute non-factor. I know you won't agree with me but I have seen this play out on many occasions. Play the body on him and it's like he will go away and sulk. This is my opinion, you can't change it. I hope the Sharks can figure this out in the first game of the series, and not the 5th or 6th, because if they don't figure this out the series will go the limit with a growing number of banged up bodies on the San Jose Sharks.

Regehr is the prototypical school yard bully. He will taunt you, he will run you to no end. He will do this until you give him some of his own medicine. Once you start playing an ultra physical game with him, he goes away and is an absolute non-factor. I know you won't agree with me but I have seen this play out on many occasions. Play the body on him and it's like he will go away and sulk. This is my opinion, you can't change it. I hope the Sharks can figure this out in the first game of the series, and not the 5th or 6th, because if they don't figure this out the series will go the limit with a growing number of banged up bodies on the San Jose Sharks.

Why do you come to discussion boards then? To enlighten the masses with gems like "Regehr is merely average defensively"?

I'd give my left nut for just one of my Pens blueliners to have Regehr's "average" defensive capabilities.

Why do you come to discussion boards then? To enlighten the masses with gems like "Regehr is merely average defensively"?

I'd give my left nut for just one of my Pens blueliners to have Regehr's "average" defensive capabilities.

... you have nuts?

:sarcasm:

... but seriously, I'm cheering hard for the Pittsburgh Penguins. They should have gotten by Ottawa last season. I think your team got the raw end of the stick from the officiating.

Regehr is certainly an elite defensive defenseman. I would say probably top 3 in the league at simply shutting down one line (for a defenseman). You only need to look as far as the fact that Sid Crosby, when asked who is the toughest defenseman he ever went up against, answered pretty easily Robyn Regehr. Crosby's one of the guys who has run the gauntlet of #1 defensemen in this league, and he's one of the elite players, so him saying that Regehr is one of the best shutdown D-men says more than a lot of the posters in here have the capability to argue against.

Regehr is certainly an elite defensive defenseman. I would say probably top 3 in the league at simply shutting down one line (for a defenseman). You only need to look as far as the fact that Sid Crosby, when asked who is the toughest defenseman he ever went up against, answered pretty easily Robyn Regehr. Crosby's one of the guys who has run the gauntlet of #1 defensemen in this league, and he's one of the elite players, so him saying that Regehr is one of the best shutdown D-men says more than a lot of the posters in here have the capability to argue against.

What player does this thread state the Sharks have to target in order to get by the first round??????

What player does this thread state the Sharks have to target in order to get by the first round??????

I believe he was responding to your largely baseless statement that Regehr is "average defensively."

Regehr is certainly an elite defensive defenseman. I would say probably top 3 in the league at simply shutting down one line (for a defenseman). You only need to look as far as the fact that Sid Crosby, when asked who is the toughest defenseman he ever went up against, answered pretty easily Robyn Regehr. Crosby's one of the guys who has run the gauntlet of #1 defensemen in this league, and he's one of the elite players, so him saying that Regehr is one of the best shutdown D-men says more than a lot of the posters in here have the capability to argue against.

Never, ever take the word of an opposing player at face value - especially one that only plays against another 1 or 2 times. Players tend to throw out platitudes too easily. Ovechkin and Foresberg also were once quoted as saying that Scott Hannan was the toughest defenseman they played against. Regehr is an excellent defensive D-man, but he's not anything remotely close to a game changer. The Sharks pummeled the Flames in their last two games (both OTL's) out shooting them 2 to 1.

I believe he was responding to your largely baseless statement that Regehr is "average defensively."

In my humble opinion, Regehr does one thing very well. It has earned him a tone of money and recognition. I have stated what I have seen over the years and what I believe will negate this one thing. If the Sharks do not play this player like I think they should I can see a possible, I should say probable first round exit for the Sharks. I guess I should not get over dramatic. There are many things that determine who will win a playoff series.

That being said, 'I believe it is the secret to beating the Flames'. That is the only reason I started this thread.

Regehr is the prototypical school yard bully. He will taunt you, he will run you to no end. He will do this until you give him some of his own medicine. Once you start playing an ultra physical game with him, he goes away and is an absolute non-factor. I know you won't agree with me but I have seen this play out on many occasions. Play the body on him and it's like he will go away and sulk. This is my opinion, you can't change it. I hope the Sharks can figure this out in the first game of the series, and not the 5th or 6th, because if they don't figure this out the series will go the limit with a growing number of banged up bodies on the San Jose Sharks.
And Alice Hemsky is the prototypical prison-yard *****.
Slap her around like Regehr has done all career and she will cry to MacT to get him stand up for her. :laugh:

And Alice Hemsky is the prototypical prison-yard *****.
Slap her around like Regehr has done all career and she will cry to MacT to get him stand up for her. :laugh:

nervous much ;)

All this talk about Regehr is insane. Like this guy is the backbone of the Flames or something!! Cmon, your kidding right?? Regehr will not be the deciding factor by any means..IMO. :shakehead

I agree the Sharks will need to play this guy hard and not underestimate him, but that goes for many others on the Flames. We are playing against a team right?? This whole thread is based on 1 post about 1 player being the deciding factor in this series and targeting him will guarantee a win.....and that to me...is just ludicrous :shakehead

There are only three elite D-men in this league and Regehr is not one of them.
you may include him in the second tier but that would mean he's in the same class as Zubov etc and that , to me , it's a bit of a stretch.

There are only three elite D-men in this league and Regehr is not one of them.
you may include him in the second tier but that would mean he's in the same class as Zubov etc and that , to me , it's a bit of a stretch.

As late as 2006, he was one of Canada's 4 best defensemen.

So, I'd put him in that class easily.

He hits to hurt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpd8D4EffSI). Nothing wrong with that in the playoffs. McLaren does the same thing.

McLaren only hits to hurt himself in recent months. He has had some injury trouble and is not the same defenseman he once was.

McLaren only hits to hurt himself in recent months. He has had some injury trouble and is not the same defenseman he once was.

True.

McLaren reminds me of Warrener last year. Which isn't fantastic.

On the flip side, those gritty warriors are useful in the playoffs. Both as a warm body, and as motivation for the rest of the team.

Regehr certainly could be a big factor in this series. I think he's the best shut down defenseman in the league, and he brings a ton of physical play too. Basically he's pre-lockout Hannan but better and more complete.

McLaren only hits to hurt himself in recent months. He has had some injury trouble and is not the same defenseman he once was.

bah, that's just a facade that he has put up to fool the other team :D

Regehr certainly could be a big factor in this series. I think he's the best shut down defenseman in the league, and he brings a ton of physical play too. Basically he's pre-lockout Hannan but better and more complete.

So what you're saying is he's not like Scott Hannan at all.

So what you're saying is he's not like Scott Hannan at all.

Current Scott Hannan? no.

Former Scott Hannan? Yes.

Pimp, did you get banned from the other boards or something?

Current Scott Hannan? no.

Former Scott Hannan? Yes.

Scott Hannan has never been as good as Regehr, nor are they the same type of player.

There really isn't a comparison.

I'm not saying this to be a dick, just that Regehr is a vastly superior player who plays a different game.

Scott Hannan has never been as good as Regehr, nor are they the same type of player.

There really isn't a comparison.

I'm not saying this to be a dick, just that Regehr is a vastly superior player who plays a different game.

I disagree. They're both are tough shut down dmen who are useless with the puck. The only difference is that Regehr plays with more of an edge and that Hannan has been on a decline since the lockout.

I disagree. They're both are tough shut down dmen who are useless with the puck. The only difference is that Regehr plays with more of an edge and that Hannan has been on a decline since the lockout.

Hannan is a plodding 'shutdown' defenseman who can't compete without utilizing interference. His offensive production is similar to that of Regehr.

Regehr is a skating, punishing, defenseman who can control a game and change a series with his physical play.

I think regehr is far and away the better defenseman. Hannan's game is more comparable to that of Sarich than Regehr.

... you have nuts?

:sarcasm:

... but seriously, I'm cheering hard for the Pittsburgh Penguins. They should have gotten by Ottawa last season. I think your team got the raw end of the stick from the officiating.

Phillips and Volchenkov were certainly allowed to take their share of liberties with Crosby without repercussion, but the Sens were the better team by a fair margin. Other than Crosby, Staal, Roberts and to an extent Fleury, the Pens were simply outclassed.

This year, hopefully, will be a different story.

As a Flames fan I do think its importantly to hit our dmen as often and as hard as possible, gives you a better chance to win. Those that think Regehr will run and hide and start playing soft are kidding themselves.

Is Regehr a huge part of our game? Ask Kipper. Many many small skilled forwards will not fight Regehr for the puck after getting pancaked once. I am not saying the sharks have small forwards. Yet Regehr is gonna make people pay on the side boards.

As for Phaneuf, I think you can take him off his game if you nail him a few times. He will probably put himself out of position to make that big hit. Yet he is maturing, and your players better keep their heads up at the blueline.

As for Iginla? Dont make him mad. Hook him hold him etc etc but dont get dirty with him. Iginla is a different player when he is mad.

As for Kipper? Knock him over a few times, and screen him lots.

Time for a new thread for sharks fans, hehehe!

Pimp, did you get banned from the other boards or something?

Yes and No. I guess I upset one of the mods ( the woman) with something I said about Marleau and she decided people with different ( and educated) opinions have to go. Of course I could've registered again but that board is literally a cesspool ran by idiots so I decided to let them stew in their own stupidity.

Hannan is a plodding 'shutdown' defenseman who can't compete without utilizing interference. His offensive production is similar to that of Regehr.

Regehr is a skating, punishing, defenseman who can control a game and change a series with his physical play.

I think regehr is far and away the better defenseman. Hannan's game is more comparable to that of Sarich than Regehr.

You got that one dead on. Hannan is a shell of his former self and even his former self wasn't that good.

Regehr certainly could be a big factor in this series. I think he's the best shut down defenseman in the league, and he brings a ton of physical play too. Basically he's pre-lockout Hannan but better and more complete.

I have to disagree. If left untouched I believe he will be the difference maker in this series. That is high praise for this player. But as I have stated he has no or little offensive instincts and can't make the first pass out of his zone effectively. No one has contested my claims as Regehr as an offensive player.

However as a defensive player he can be beaten easily by skilled players one-on-one. He will make poor decisions two-on-one situations. He is not tough in front of his own net and is often a spectator when goals are scored on his team.

I maintain he is the toughest player to play against behind the net and on the boards that you will ever see. He has absolutely no hesitation on performing illegal checks in this area. You have a certain superstar who gets the majority of his points from those areas. Can you see why I say the Sharks must try to negate this player with extreme, possibly over the line goon tactics. If you don't do it to him he will do it to you most certainly. Then you have the rest of the off season to discuss what went wrong for yet another year.

I have to disagree. If left untouched I believe he will be the difference maker in this series. That is high praise for this player. But as I have stated he has no or little offensive instincts and can't make the first pass out of his zone effectively. No one has contested my claims as Regehr as an offensive player.

However as a defensive player he can be beaten easily by skilled players one-on-one. He will make poor decisions two-on-one situations. He is not tough in front of his own net and is often a spectator when goals are scored on his team.

I maintain he is the toughest player to play against behind the net and on the boards that you will ever see. He has absolutely no hesitation on performing illegal checks in this area. You have a certain superstar who gets the majority of his points from those areas. Can you see why I say the Sharks must try to negate this player with extreme, possibly over the line goon tactics. If you don't do it to him he will do it to you most certainly. Then you have the rest of the off season to discuss what went wrong for yet another year.

Regehr's not going to do much to Joe Thornton in this series. Besides, there's more to this match-up than Thornton and Regehr. The 3rd lines on each team will be critical to who wins this series. Sharks 3rd line of Rissmiller-Mitchell-Grier is an excellent shutdown group with speed and scoring touch. I'm not sure what Calgary will come out with but I'm sure that they have their strengths and if they chip in offensively, it will make for a tough series for the Sharks.

Regehr's not going to do much to Joe Thornton in this series. Besides, there's more to this match-up than Thornton and Regehr. The 3rd lines on each team will be critical to who wins this series. Sharks 3rd line of Rissmiller-Mitchell-Grier is an excellent shutdown group with speed and scoring touch. I'm not sure what Calgary will come out with but I'm sure that they have their strengths and if they chip in offensively, it will make for a tough series for the Sharks.

In a seven game series Thornton will not be a match physically for Regehr. He will shut Thornton down if not out right injure him in this series if he is not given very special attention. Watch and see. Like I have said before, Regehr's game goes away if you play him rough. If not, it will be the demise of your teams fortunes in this years playoffs.

I have to disagree. If left untouched I believe he will be the difference maker in this series. That is high praise for this player. But as I have stated he has no or little offensive instincts and can't make the first pass out of his zone effectively. No one has contested my claims as Regehr as an offensive player.

However as a defensive player he can be beaten easily by skilled players one-on-one. He will make poor decisions two-on-one situations. He is not tough in front of his own net and is often a spectator when goals are scored on his team.

I maintain he is the toughest player to play against behind the net and on the boards that you will ever see. He has absolutely no hesitation on performing illegal checks in this area. You have a certain superstar who gets the majority of his points from those areas. Can you see why I say the Sharks must try to negate this player with extreme, possibly over the line goon tactics. If you don't do it to him he will do it to you most certainly. Then you have the rest of the off season to discuss what went wrong for yet another year.

Hence he is not an Elite D-man like somebody suggested.
Regehr gets beat by skating and puckhandling. If you go one on one with him in the corner you'll get burned most of the time .. if you run straight into him you'll get leveled. But if you keep your distance and you skate around him he'll have a hard time keeping up.
I cannot believe the uber-powers some attribute this guy. He's good .. he's not THAT good.

Hence he is not an Elite D-man like somebody suggested.
Regehr gets beat by skating and puckhandling. If you go one on one with him in the corner you'll get burned most of the time .. if you run straight into him you'll get leveled. But if you keep your distance and you skate around him he'll have a hard time keeping up.
I cannot believe the uber-powers some attribute this guy. He's good .. he's not THAT good.


He is very elite at what he does. Just because I say he has weaknesses in his overall game, it makes little sense to question his effectiveness at what he does best. Battle him in the corners uncontested without a cheap shot or two towards him spells impending disaster for the Sharks imo.

In a seven game series Thornton will not be a match physically for Regehr. He will shut Thornton down if not out right injure him in this series if he is not given very special attention. Watch and see. Like I have said before, Regehr's game goes away if you play him rough. If not, it will be the demise of your teams fortunes in this years playoffs.
Dissagree.
Keenan will have to use Regehr on the ice for more than just JT so I don't think Regehr will be on the ice every time JT is out there because in that case he either plays him with 30+ minutes/game (which by game 4 will wear Regehr out) or he won't play him when JT is NOT on the ice which would mean three Sharks line will not have to face Regehr at any point.
Besides I realyl don't think JT will just sit around all series long allowing Regehr to hit him and punish him at will.

He is very elite at what he does. Just because I say he has weaknesses in his overall game, it makes little sense to question his effectiveness at what he does best. Battle him in the corners uncontested without a cheap shot or two towards him spells impending disaster for the Sharks imo.

Hmm Elite does imply that you are the best or close to the top at any attributes in your trade.
Regehr is not even close to that. Let's say he's an excellent shutdown D-man and leave it at that.
Throwing Elite out there diminishes the values of Nieds, Lidstrom and Pronger They are elite .. Regehr is not even close. He's not even in the same class as Zubov .. let's be realistic here.

Dissagree.
Keenan will have to use Regehr on the ice for more than just JT so I don't think Regehr will be on the ice every time JT is out there because in that case he either plays him with 30+ minutes/game (which by game 4 will wear Regehr out) or he won't play him when JT is NOT on the ice which would mean three Sharks line will not have to face Regehr at any point.
Besides I realyl don't think JT will just sit around all series long allowing Regehr to hit him and punish him at will.

I tried. Apparently you just don't get it. It only takes a couple of shifts lined up against Regehr for him to do his job and get everyone off their game. A couple of shifts every game. Best of luck, your going to need it.

I tried. Apparently you just don't get it. It only takes a couple of shifts lined up against Regehr for him to do his job and get everyone off their game. A couple of shifts every game. Best of luck, your going to need it.
So he's some sort of evil superman .. got it

Hmm Elite does imply that you are the best or close to the top at any attributes in your trade.
Regehr is not even close to that. Let's say he's an excellent shutdown D-man and leave it at that.
Throwing Elite out there diminishes the values of Nieds, Lidstrom and Pronger They are elite .. Regehr is not even close. He's not even in the same class as Zubov .. let's be realistic here.


Pronger... the way Pronger plays the opposition down low is a good comparison. Not how they hit but the devastation they cause is a good example. Only Regehr does it more often. Read the rest of the posts before you respond. I say Regehr is elite at one thing only. And at that one thing, yes indeed ELITE is the correct term.

In other areas of the game he is average to below average.

Pronger... the way Pronger plays the opposition down low is a good comparison. Not how they hit but the devastation they cause is a good example. Only Regehr does it more often. Read the rest of the posts before you respond. I say Regehr is elite at one thing only. And at that one thing, yes indeed ELITE is the correct term.

In other areas of the game he is average to below average.

So he is not elite.

Interestingly enough Pronger has been suspended more often than Regehr which would indicate he is a little more rough and devastating that Regehr. But that's just me.
Regehr can be beaten, JT has the body size and skills to beat him. It will be interesting watching them.

So he is not elite.

Interestingly enough Pronger has been suspended more often than Regehr which would indicate he is a little more rough and devastating that Regehr. But that's just me.
Regehr can be beaten, JT has the body size and skills to beat him. It will be interesting watching them.

Nope. You haven't read the thread... something about Regehr getting away with something on a regular basis. I think you are dreaming if you think Thornton can win a series long battle with Regehr down low. It ain't going to happen. Add to this, the psychological effect this battle, and the cheap shots Regehr will get away with will have on your team.

Regehr has one real skill that sets him apart, and it gets him at least mentioned as a player any time Canada puts together an international team. I really believe you just don't get it. I hope the Sharks get it and play appropriately before it is too late.

well since the apparent meaning behind this thread is regehr is average and the Flames suck i will post some real ways to beat the flames...

1) Draw Penalties... the Flames biggest problem is discipline... if the Sharks can get the Flames to take penalties they will likely win...

2) Cycle with speed... cycle the puck and do it quickly... the Flames defenders do no have great foot speed... there is a reason the Sedin's have always been so successful against Calgary

IMO those are the 2 best ways to beat the Flames... but with that said you also need to find a way to stop the Flames from playing a full 60 minutes... it seems they have an uncanny ability to stay close in games when they only play 20-30 minutes... if the Flames play hard all game then even these ways to beat the Flames will be mostly ineffective... and if Kiprusoff is on his game like he usually is come big games... then the Flames will be very hard to beat no matter what happens

So he is not elite.

Interestingly enough Pronger has been suspended more often than Regehr which would indicate he is a little more rough and devastating that Regehr. But that's just me.
Regehr can be beaten, JT has the body size and skills to beat him. It will be interesting watching them.and Thornton has yes to do that this year... his one point was when Anders Eriksson was on the ice and missed a check on Thornton in the neutral zone

The secret of beating the flames is water. Just use enough water, spring that **** on em', like there's no tomorrow. Spit that water, splash that thang, twerk that thang!!! Water beats flames. Tha'ts a fact. And that's not a secret btw. Even RW could like take the water bottle, and then splash some of dat beautiful water on the flames. Like he could splash that thang on Iginla and Keenan. They would be very angry, and they would like try to hit RW and so on. The Flames would get some penalties, and they would lose that way..... I know thangs.

well since the apparent meaning behind this thread is regehr is average and the Flames suck i will post some real ways to beat the flames...

1) Draw Penalties... the Flames biggest problem is discipline... if the Sharks can get the Flames to take penalties they will likely win...

2) Cycle with speed... cycle the puck and do it quickly... the Flames defenders do no have great foot speed... there is a reason the Sedin's have always been so successful against Calgary

IMO those are the 2 best ways to beat the Flames... but with that said you also need to find a way to stop the Flames from playing a full 60 minutes... it seems they have an uncanny ability to stay close in games when they only play 20-30 minutes... if the Flames play hard all game then even these ways to beat the Flames will be mostly ineffective... and if Kiprusoff is on his game like he usually is come big games... then the Flames will be very hard to beat no matter what happens

1) Yup, The Flames will take penalties galore. Great time for the power play to get hot.

2) True, the Flames D overall is not fleet-a-foot. But it's pretty hard to cycle away from the boards down low, and that is where that slow Flame's D will most likely win the majority of the battles.

Nope. You haven't read the thread... something about Regehr getting away with something on a regular basis. I think you are dreaming if you think Thornton can win a series long battle with Regehr down low. It ain't going to happen. Add to this, the psychological effect this battle, and the cheap shots Regehr will get away with will have on your team.

Regehr has one real skill that sets him apart, and it gets him at least mentioned as a player any time Canada puts together an international team. I really believe you just don't get it. I hope the Sharks get it and play appropriately before it is too late.

Oh I get it very well . I know exactly what Regehr does and it's not nearly as dramatic as you make it sound.
I think you don't get it .. JT will not lose a series against a lesser skilled , smaller player based just on that player's "mean streak". Maybe Regehr will fool the refs with couple of cheap shots ... but he won't fool JT and the rest of thw Sharks or fool the refs for the entire duration of the series. And if he keeps JT busy all series long, even better. Milan is more than capable of picking up the slack if the Flames best shutdown guy is leaving him alone. Either way you turn it, Regehr being a ******* on JT can ultimately be turned into own advantage by the Sharks.
And I told you exactly how Regher can be beat .. skating and puck handling.
You're being waaaaaaayyy too dramatic over this one D-man. Flames are more dangerous as a whole.

and Thornton has yes to do that this year... his one point was when Anders Eriksson was on the ice and missed a check on Thornton in the neutral zone

However that opened the door for Mihalek who scored 4 goals while Regehr was busy playing with JT ...
Do you see why I am not that concerned about Regehr?

I just caught a couple of posts and.....................

nobody is really trying to say that Hannan is or ever has been in Regehrs league as a shutdown defenceman, are they??!?

I just caught a couple of posts and.....................

nobody is really trying to say that Hannan is or ever has been in Regehrs league as a shutdown defenceman, are they??!?

In the pre-lockout NHL, Hannan was every bit as good as Regehr. That's about it.

Oh I get it very well . I know exactly what Regehr does and it's not nearly as dramatic as you make it sound.
I think you don't get it .. JT will not lose a series against a lesser skilled , smaller player based just on that player's "mean streak". Maybe Regehr will fool the refs with couple of cheap shots ... but he won't fool JT and the rest of thw Sharks or fool the refs for the entire duration of the series. And if he keeps JT busy all series long, even better. Milan is more than capable of picking up the slack if the Flames best shutdown guy is leaving him alone. Either way you turn it, Regehr being a ******* on JT can ultimately be turned into own advantage by the Sharks.
And I told you exactly how Regher can be beat .. skating and puck handling.
You're being waaaaaaayyy too dramatic over this one D-man. Flames are more dangerous as a whole.

I guess that's why the building's rafters are loaded with banners... err... well they have at least a single banner don't they??? :shakehead

Well I guess you know what your talking about. For myself, I will believe it when I see it. Until then, all I can say is I would like to see the Sharks win. But if any of the players have the overconfidence you seem to have... game over.

Saying that the key for the Sharks is to handle Regehr is like saying the key for Calgary is to handle Murray. Neither player is anything close to a being a difference maker in this series. Collectively, Calgary's defense (both forwards and d-men) are much weaker than San Jose's. I expect that Calgary will be outshot by nearly a 2 to 1 margin. The key will be whether or not Kipper can continue to frustrate the Sharks.

I guess that's why the building's rafters are loaded with banners... err... well they have at least a single banner don't they??? :shakehead

Well I guess you know what your talking about. For myself, I will believe it when I see it. Until then, all I can say is I would like to see the Sharks win. But if any of the players have the overconfidence you seem to have... game over.

I fail to miss the connection between Calgary's building full of banners and my opinion of Regher.
I am hardly overconfident. This is a very tight matcchup with many facets and many aspects that could cause the demise of either team I just don't think the Sharks should get be so terrified of Regehr. they faced Pronger and Beauchemin 8 times this year, AND Nieds for about 3 or 4 times . Those are far more terrible foes than one Regehr.
I think you are overestimating one above average D-man who is not even the toughest , meanest , nastiest player the Sharks would have to face to reach the final goal. If they have to be so scared of a moderately skilled D-man .. what would they have to feel when they meet the lineup Anaheim has on the backend?

In the pre-lockout NHL, Hannan was every bit as good as Regehr. That's about it.

Not at all. Hannan had one good season ..Ok one and a half.
Then his knees got shot, his hip started squeaking and his ego started exploding.

Not at all. Hannan had one good season ..Ok one and a half.

No, the league only noticed him for a season and a half. He had a lot more hockey in him than that.

No, the league only noticed him for a season and a half. He had a lot more hockey in him than that.
When? HE was average before and for most for most of the 2003-2004 season. He has excellent in the second part of that regular season and playoffs. HE was really good for 2005-2006 and then he started going down last year.

Oh I get it very well . I know exactly what Regehr does and it's not nearly as dramatic as you make it sound.
I think you don't get it .. JT will not lose a series against a lesser skilled , smaller player based just on that player's "mean streak". Maybe Regehr will fool the refs with couple of cheap shots ... but he won't fool JT and the rest of thw Sharks or fool the refs for the entire duration of the series. And if he keeps JT busy all series long, even better. Milan is more than capable of picking up the slack if the Flames best shutdown guy is leaving him alone. Either way you turn it, Regehr being a ******* on JT can ultimately be turned into own advantage by the Sharks.
And I told you exactly how Regher can be beat .. skating and puck handling.
You're being waaaaaaayyy too dramatic over this one D-man. Flames are more dangerous as a whole.


When is this going to happen, any of it? Your running out of time, and it does indeed look like you were a little overconfident. Still not to late, but lose game 4 and it's all but over.

I have to agree with the OP.

Also to add you have to play this way with Celine Phaneuf too!!!

9 times out of 10 when you drill him into the boards he becomes invisible, or even better a liability. Starts taking stupid penaltys.

Shelley should be hitting everything in red out there! Players, fans, everything!

I have to agree with the OP.

Also to add you have to play this way with Celine Phaneuf too!!!

9 times out of 10 when you drill him into the boards he becomes invisible, or even better a liability. Starts taking stupid penaltys.

Shelley should be hitting everything in red out there! Players, fans, everything!

The thing is, at this point, Regehr is a relatively easy target, and a leader on his team. Nail him and see how the Flames react. At this point I believe the Sharks do not have the enthusiasm to win this series. One big hit can turn a game, and a series, as last night game attests.

and average defensively abilities.

Oh my, what?

In the pre-lockout NHL, Hannan was every bit as good as Regehr. That's about it.

As far as I can tell Hannan was as good as Regehr for a brief moment in the 2004 playoffs when the Sharks played Colorado and he played amazing vs Forsberg. He then got assigned Iginla in the next series and Iginla constantly walked through him.

They were both named to the World Cup roster later that summer and it was very obvious Regehr was on another level.

The thing is, at this point, Regehr is a relatively easy target, and a leader on his team. Nail him and see how the Flames react. At this point I believe the Sharks do not have the enthusiasm to win this series. One big hit can turn a game, and a series, as last night game attests.

we'll see..but if i were to bet, i'd say the sharks come out and play like the icecapades...

purdy wrote an article in the sj mercury that mention that game 3 just showed the sharks have not learned their lesson from edmonton, detroit, and calgary in past postseasons...

if the sharks adapt in game 4+5+6 and look to make the flames pay, they win the series, if they turtle from it all, they lose again...i dunno how long it will take for the sharks to realize they're not scrawny little cinderellas twirling around the ice and that hockey is played with puck, sticks, and a body...

They played a good game. Finally some real work on the D like I've been preaching. Last night's score flattered the Flames, yet had they scored another in the second the series could be on the brink. Still lots of kinks for the Sharks to work out with 4 games in the can. Still another energy level and commitment to the system that has yet to be found. It is a 3 game series now, and I fully expect to be watching another brand of hockey for the coming games. Time to turn it up or book T times.

Don't score many goals early, so we don't fall asleep the following periods. Make sure they don't change the starting goalie to the backup because we don't seem to study the backups each team has just in case. Wait a few seconds until the game ends to score winning goal. :D