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BenedictGomez 04-05-2008, 11:24 PM I thought this topic more than justifies being separate from the ticket sale thread as I want Devils fans to be aware when the tickets at MSG go on sale. It appears you MUST call in to TicketMaster (TM) to get tickets for this, as there is not a snowballs chance in hell there will be tickets available at noon when the internet "sales" begin. Lets gobble some of those tix up! By the way (and this is funny as hell) the below info is from the Rangers website and the very last sentence was in EXTREMELY small font. In other words: Hello fans, the only tickets available are in the upper reaches of the arena and we are going to absolutely bone you on the price; so we're really hoping you dont read this last extraordinary small font sentence. :laugh:
MSG PLAYOFF TICKETS ON SALE TUESDAY
New York Rangers 2008 Stanley Cup Playoff Tickets go On-Sale Tuesday, April 8, beginning at 10:00 a.m. ET, exclusively via Ticketmaster charge by Phone at 212-307-7171 and, beginning at 12:00 Noon ET, via Ticketmaster online.
In an effort to have tickets available to as many fans as possible, a maximum of two tickets per person may be purchased, in any combination for the six potential home games during Rounds One and Two. Tickets are extremely limited.
Tickets will be available in the 300 and 400 levels and start at $84.50 <--objects in mirror are closer than they appear
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-05-2008, 11:26 PM Got my tickets for our home game 2, all that matters to me so far.
daveskirtun 04-05-2008, 11:28 PM I'll be getting tickets to each game. I'm trying to have my friend get tickets too, but I have to pay:rant:
Mr.Krinkle 04-05-2008, 11:31 PM I got better things to do with my money than put it in Dolan's pocket.
For the price of one ticket at the Garden you could get like 4 at the Rock....everyone of you thinking about buying tix for MSG should instead spend it for tix at the Rock and just give em to your friends.
That's that many less Ranger fans in our building.
BenedictGomez 04-05-2008, 11:34 PM everyone of you thinking about buying tix for MSG should instead spend it for tix at the Rock and just give em to your friends.
That's that many less Ranger fans in our building.
What they logically should have done is had a special presale for STH and let us buy 2 extra tickets to any one game for the round. That's more logical than the 8 game strip nonsense offered to us in the "least desired" areas of the arena.
Prudential 100s = MSG 300s.
Mr.Krinkle 04-06-2008, 12:07 AM What they logically should have done is had a special presale for STH and let us buy 2 extra tickets to any one game for the round. That's more logical than the 8 game strip nonsense offered to us in the "least desired" areas of the arena.
I was so pissed when I saw that. I would've easily bought 2 more strips in any of the sections near us, but noooo, they have to push them lame ass balcony , mezz and granite seats.
Although I think I know what happened....the Flex and mini plan folks.
People who I sat next to last year at the Swamp got the weekday package this year and by some stroke of luck are only 3 rows behind me. I talked to them after the last game and they got moved up to the row behind me....
I think they counted on all the Half season/Flex/weekday/weekend/various other smaller plan folks to take the option for more seats, which apparently most of them did.
Not that that's an excuse for not offering the full STH's the option to buy more in their sections, but still, it's an idea.
Mr.Krinkle 04-06-2008, 12:08 AM Prudential 100s = MSG 300s.
Prudential 20 dollars = MSG 500 dollars :biglaugh:
HenriksBetter 04-06-2008, 09:48 AM Prudential 100s = MSG 300s.
Please don't remind me. I am still sick over what i have to pay as a season ticket holder.
But good luck trying to get tickets. From what i have heard there are a very limited number available in advance. If you really want to get to MSG for a game ebay or stubhub might be the way to go
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-06-2008, 10:41 AM why would i pay redonkulous prices to watch a game in an overly dim arena with suspect sight lines whe i can watch it on my 60 led dlp hdtv for free :D
pattyelias 04-06-2008, 10:43 AM I have yet to go to a game at the Garden this season. I definitely try and hit up some playoff tickets over there. Thanks for the info BG.
NJDevs26 04-08-2008, 09:48 AM Time to bump this up, invade the Garden baby!
Mr Bojanglez 04-08-2008, 09:51 AM ehhh. I'd wanna go just to be there for the team. But it's not worth the price... headache
HBK27 04-08-2008, 09:57 AM Time to bump this up, invade the Garden baby!
Best of luck to any Devils fans that want to spend twice the amount of money to go sit at that dump over the Rock.
Mr Bojanglez 04-08-2008, 10:12 AM That's why you "can't" get tickets at MSG. It's not cause they aren't available, its cause they don't want to spend so much money. While I don't blame them... don't sit hear bragging about how awesome you guys are cause you play in New York. It's like the rich kid bragging about the new Vette his daddy bought him
Das Uber 04-08-2008, 10:14 AM Best of luck to any Devils fans that want to spend twice the amount of money to go sit at that dump over the Rock.
Amen. I think they should try to get MSG in the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest piece of fecal matter in the world.
ALine9900 04-08-2008, 10:16 AM That's why you "can't" get tickets at MSG. It's not cause they aren't available, its cause they don't want to spend so much money. While I don't blame them... don't sit hear bragging about how awesome you guys are cause you play in New York. It's like the rich kid bragging about the new Vette his daddy bought him
Lol, no one said anything like that.
Marv4Life 04-08-2008, 10:18 AM Time to bump this up, invade the Garden baby!
How about focusing on invading our own arena, okay? Thanks.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 10:26 AM I called the 609-520-8383 # and got through at 10:05am.
I scored 2 tickets in the 300 level for Sunday's game, which is Game-3 in the series.
BenedictGomez 04-08-2008, 10:29 AM I finally got in at 10:22 and nothing was available to any game. IMO, Rags fans were holding out hope of getting tix this way and now every available ticket at The Rock will sell quickly.
jerseydevil 04-08-2008, 10:48 AM Got 2 tix to both games 3 and 4 on the phone this morning...Sect 110 for Sunday and Sect 215 for Wednesday...SWEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!! Always use NJ ticketmaster number, not NY...
foberto* 04-08-2008, 10:52 AM Nice, so according to this board there will be 4 Devils fans at the Garden on Sunday. You guys will feel right at home!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 11:01 AM Nice, so according to this board there will be 4 Devils fans at the Garden on Sunday. You guys will feel right at home!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Wow 6 posts and this is the level we can expect? You know you are the 1st person to make such an origional joke like that. you must be special.
We average 88.3% capacity this year and are up 10% from last year. You shouldn't try to look so ignorant.
Synergy27 04-08-2008, 11:06 AM Wow 6 posts and this is the level we can expect? You know you are the 1st person to make such an origional joke like that. you must be special.
We average 88.3% capacity this year and are up 10% from last year. You shouldn't try to look so ignorant.
He was jokingly saying there would be 4 Devil fans at THE GARDEN according to THIS THREAD. Haha. Attendance is still a touchy subject, eh?
Leopold Stotch 04-08-2008, 11:07 AM Amen. I think they should try to get MSG in the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest piece of fecal matter in the world.
So I guess now that the Devils finally got a new arena they can rip on MSG and forget about the 20 yrs. or so at the Meadowlands where they were hard pressed to sell out playoff games. Get a life.
And yeah, I truly respect any NJ fan who actually got through to ticketmaster and is willing to shell out those kind of bucks for a hockey game. I would if I wasn't a broke ass college student.
Richard Park 10 04-08-2008, 11:07 AM Wow 6 posts and this is the level we can expect? You know you are the 1st person to make such an origional joke like that. you must be special.
We average 88.3% capacity this year and are up 10% from last year. You shouldn't try to look so ignorant.
dont worry... i got 2 tickets for game 6 this morning and I already am selling them on stubbhub for twice their face value. I hate the rangers fans, but Ill gladly take their money :yo:
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 11:10 AM Ha, Rags fans trolling here about whether anyone got tix to their rink.
How sad. :shakehead
ALine9900 04-08-2008, 11:14 AM So I guess now that the Devils finally got a new arena they can rip on MSG and forget about the 20 yrs. or so at the Meadowlands where they were hard pressed to sell out playoff games. Get a life.
And yeah, I truly respect any NJ fan who actually got through to ticketmaster and is willing to shell out those kind of bucks for a hockey game. I would if I wasn't a broke ass college student.
If the CAA was in the middle of Manhattan it wouldn't :Gomez:?
Jiri Bicek 04-08-2008, 11:15 AM Tickets are available via online ticketmaster starting at noon:
They start at $104
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:22 AM CaptMessier11, just like a captain leaving NYC for Vancouver when things arent going well, welcome to the ignore list. Promise to lead me to the playoffs again and I will take you off.
HBK27 04-08-2008, 11:25 AM So I guess now that the Devils finally got a new arena they can rip on MSG and forget about the 20 yrs. or so at the Meadowlands where they were hard pressed to sell out playoff games. Get a life.
And yeah, I truly respect any NJ fan who actually got through to ticketmaster and is willing to shell out those kind of bucks for a hockey game. I would if I wasn't a broke ass college student.
Yeah, I'm jealous...I really wish the Devils could sell out as often as the Rangers do so that our owner could jack up ticket prices even more. If I'm really lucky, maybe the demand could get high enough that I'd have to go through ticket brokers for seats and then with a little bit of luck I can go to half the games for the same price! That's really be awesome...sure, I'd get to see less hockey live or spend a lot more money...but damn, those bragging rights would be well worth it!
Mr Bojanglez 04-08-2008, 11:26 AM So I guess now that the Devils finally got a new arena they can rip on MSG and forget about the 20 yrs. or so at the Meadowlands where they were hard pressed to sell out playoff games. Get a life.
And yeah, I truly respect any NJ fan who actually got through to ticketmaster and is willing to shell out those kind of bucks for a hockey game. I would if I wasn't a broke ass college student.
Blah Blah New York Blah Blah Sellout Blah Blah
Guys... we can sit here and talk about how they're a team thats been around forever... or that they play in New York, so for those reasons alone (Even each one separately) is why they sellout
And we can argue that we're doing better (which we are). But the fact of the matter is... what does it matter? We let it get to us. Nothing we can do but go to games, be passionate and support them as best we can.
So what if they have more fans? I said it before, being more popular doesn't mean being more gooder. Rags = Backstreet Boys.... Devils = Slayer
Its something stupid they made up to "get back at us" when they were scrubs for the past 10 years. They had no other retort other than "well at least we can sellout" Its dumb... so just let it go guys.
britdevil 04-08-2008, 11:26 AM So I guess now that the Devils finally got a new arena they can rip on MSG and forget about the 20 yrs. or so at the Meadowlands where they were hard pressed to sell out playoff games. Get a life.
East Rutherford
or
Manhattan
Hmmmmmmmm, which one will :Gomez:?
BenedictGomez 04-08-2008, 11:27 AM dont worry... i got 2 tickets for game 6 this morning and I already am selling them on stubbhub for twice their face value. I hate the rangers fans, but Ill gladly take their money :yo:
Funny stuff.
HBK27 04-08-2008, 11:28 AM East Rutherford
or
Manhattan
Hmmmmmmmm, which one will :Gomez:?
You could probably hold a rock-papers-scissors tournament or spelling bee contest at the Garden and you'd still :Gomez: the place.
RegalRangers 04-08-2008, 11:28 AM Just bought a pair of tickets in 115 for $100 each for game 1 tomorrow. Looking forward to visiting the rock for the first time. Looks like a gorgeous arena from what I've seen. Dolan doesn't need my money and at those prices I don't want to give it to him.
I only have the cash to go to one playoff game this season and my money goes to the devils this year. And I'm totally fine with that. I respect the devils just as much as I hate them.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:29 AM I love how Rangers fans brag about popularity when there own city and media couldn't give two ***** about them.
britdevil 04-08-2008, 11:29 AM You could probably hold a rock-papers-scissors tournament or spelling bee contest at the Garden and you'd still :Gomez: the place.
It would be so exciting though. I think I would :Nigel Dawes: my pants.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:32 AM I love how Rangers fans brag about popularity when there own city and media couldn't give two ***** about them.
New Jersey gives as much or more of a **** about the Rangers than they do the Devils. That's a bit worse, IMO. ;)
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 11:36 AM Just bought a pair of tickets in 115 for $100 each for game 1 tomorrow. Looking forward to visiting the rock for the first time. Looks like a gorgeous arena from what I've seen. Dolan doesn't need my money and at those prices I don't want to give it to him.
I only have the cash to go to one playoff game this season and my money goes to the devils this year. And I'm totally fine with that. I respect the devils just as much as I hate them.
Now you seem like a classy fan thay just wants to support his team.
enjoy your time except the final score. ;)
ALine9900 04-08-2008, 11:39 AM New Jersey gives as much or more of a **** about the Rangers than they do the Devils. That's a bit worse, IMO. ;)
If I told you the ratio of Devils/Rangers fans I see in NYC, you wouldn't believe me.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:40 AM New Jersey gives as much or more of a **** about the Rangers than they do the Devils. That's a bit worse, IMO. ;)
Yep, you can tell from the 20% Rangers fans in the seats, get over yourself. The middle aged drunks from Middletown really represent the Blue, White and Red well on NJ Transit, it was nice watching 3 of them arrested at the Long Branch stop 1 month ago. Arent you due back at the main board to complain about every semi negative thing said about the Rangers by us "cocky" Devils fans.
http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/5942047fb91c98ded1.jpg
Rangers fans, congratulations you put on average 2k more fans in the seats in the most populated area of the world, on top of the biggest transit hub on earth, you are not Montreal or Toronto.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 11:41 AM New Jersey gives as much or more of a **** about the Rangers than they do the Devils. That's a bit worse, IMO. ;)
not really, but if you want to do a door to door census on your spare time between exams go ahead and knock yourself out. oh, my bad, Howell is a huge Rangers hotbed! :handclap:
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:41 AM If I told you the ratio of Devils/Rangers fans I see in NYC, you wouldn't believe me.
If I told you the ratio of Rangers/Devils in NJ, you wouldn't believe me.
See? We can both play this game.
But we all know the real answer (not that I even give much of a **** about it -- just replying to a stupid post).
jerseydevil 04-08-2008, 11:41 AM New Jersey gives as much or more of a **** about the Rangers than they do the Devils. That's a bit worse, IMO. ;)
Sorry man, just not true anymore. NJ Papers don't even have beat writers for the Rangers anymore. Just Associated press now..I would agree with you ten years ago..but times have changed.
foberto* 04-08-2008, 11:41 AM Wow 6 posts and this is the level we can expect? You know you are the 1st person to make such an origional joke like that. you must be special.
We average 88.3% capacity this year and are up 10% from last year. You shouldn't try to look so ignorant.
Umm, 88.3% capacity puts you in 23rd in the league in attendance. With the nicest, newest arena, and years of success behind it.
You're PROUD of that? :amazed:
foberto* 04-08-2008, 11:42 AM If I told you the ratio of Devils/Rangers fans I see in NYC, you wouldn't believe me.
You're right, I wouldn't, because I go to every game there and you go to zero.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:43 AM If I told you the ratio of Devils/Rangers fans I see in NYC, you wouldn't believe me.
I have been mentioning this for a while but....
Ssshhh we dont exist shhsss
I dont know whats more annoying, these trolls or the guys who ask you "hey do you like Stand Up Comedy" in Times Square.
Its hilarious seeing the bravado of these Rangers fans, trying to pick on us while there own city cares more about the Final Four.
BenedictGomez 04-08-2008, 11:43 AM Rangers fans, congratulations you put on average 2k more fans in the seats in the most populated area of the world, on top of the biggest transit hub on earth, you are not Montreal or Toronto.
Harsh.......harsh, but fair. The only thing you left out is the massive number of people in attendance that got their tickets for free.
jerseydevil 04-08-2008, 11:43 AM Umm, 88.3% capacity puts you in 23rd in the league in attendance. With the nicest, newest arena, and years of success behind it.
You're PROUD of that? :amazed:
8 posts..All about the Devils. Obsessed Ranger fan? I think so..
HBK27 04-08-2008, 11:43 AM Now you seem like a classy fan thay just wants to support his team.
enjoy your time except the final score. ;)
Yeah, it's refreshing to see a post like that of a Ranger fan just excited to go see a game at the Rock instead of talking about "Taking the place over" or going there to act like an ass.
I've gone to see Devils games at MSG, NVMC, Montreal, Boston, DC, & Philly & have been respectful of being in another team's building every time. I'll still cheer for my team if they score a goal or make a nice play, but my friends and I were never obnoxious or trying to start a Let's Go Devils chant or just trying to prove something. That's how most of the fights get started in the stands, with opposing fans trying to make some sort of a statement instead of just enjoying the game.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:44 AM I have been mentioning this for a while but....
Ssshhh we dont exist shhsss
I dont know whats more annoying, these trolls or the guys who ask you "hey do you like Stand Up Comedy" in Times Square.
Its hilarious seeing the bravado of these Rangers fans, trying to pick on us while there own city cares more about the Final Four.
Pretty funny for you to talk about trolls when you were the one who brought up the subject in the first place as a shot about the Rangers. :sarcasm:
ALine9900 04-08-2008, 11:44 AM If I told you the ratio of Rangers/Devils in NJ, you wouldn't believe me.
See? We can both play this game.
But we all know the real answer (not that I even give much of a **** about it -- just replying to a stupid post).
Lol, whatever you say man.
BenedictGomez 04-08-2008, 11:45 AM 8 posts..All about the Devils. Obsessed Ranger fan? I think so..
Not to mention he's mathematically challenged as we were actually 20th. If you're going to insult someone, you should at least be capable of using the proper statistics.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:46 AM Not to mention he's mathematically challenged as we were actually 20th. If you're going to insult someone, you should at least be capable of using the proper statistics.
Do what I did and put him on ignore.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:46 AM Rangers fans, your team has been around for 100 years, what do you expect.
Doesnt it get tired? Since attendance has been your only defense since the Edmonton Oilers won you a cup in 1994. But again, we have no fans.
Devils parade Cup in parking lot in front of 20,000 fans
Posted: Saturday June 14, 2003 4:45 PM
Updated: Saturday June 14, 2003 9:01 PM
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Martin Brodeur Martin Brodeur hoists the Stanley Cup above his head during the Devils' rally in the parking lot of Continental Airlines Arena. AP
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- Outside the arena where the New Jersey Devils claimed possession of a third Stanley Cup, the celebration was empty of formality but loaded with the sort of revelry only a blacktop affair could provide.
Thousands of fans jammed Continental Airlines Arena's parking lot Saturday for a rousing tailgate party and to salute the 2003 champions, who only days ago vanquished the Anaheim Mighty Ducks in seven games.
"This may be a parking lot, but it's the only parking lot that's got the Stanley Cup," comedian and New Jersey native Joe Piscopo, who emceed the event, declared.
Sweltering in a presummer muggy 80-plus degrees, fans from throughout the region rocked to a band's cover versions of tunes by Green Day, Guns 'N Roses, Bon Jovi and Aerosmith. They hoisted homemade Cups in the air, sipped beer, ate stadium fare food, reminiscing about the season and cheering highlights reels shown on giant screens. They yelled giddily anew at the scoring action of Game 7, a 3-0 shutout of the Ducks on June 9 that made the Cup theirs.
But the loudest round of cheers was reserved for the Devils themselves, who stepped onto the stage one by one as they were introduced by name, number and accomplishments on the ice.
Fan favorites were defenseman Scott Stevens and goaltender Martin Brodeur, both drawing deafening cheers and applause. But it was Brodeur's ascent that also elicited chants of "MVP, MVP, MVP ..." Moments later, the Cup was unveiled under bursts of red, white and blue confetti, then held high in triumph by the players.
Gov. James E. McGreevey, whom Piscopo presented to the crowd as a big Devils booster, declared the day "Devils Day," but drew a chorus of boos from the crowd that drowned out his remarks.
No matter. Dignitaries and speeches weren't why fans flocked to the low-key, somewhat pedestrian tribute, the third such on Meadowlands' blacktop. "Everybody talks about how they don't have a parade. This is better. Everybody just hangs out and parties," said Peter Sasso of Rockland County, N.Y., who brought his son Peter Jr.
Joe Aurigemma of Hazlet agreed. "We talked about that at work. During a parade, once it goes by that's it. This is best. Everybody gets to see the players. Everybody's here; everybody's enjoying themselves," said Aurigemma, who was joined by his son Danny, 14, and daughter Michele, 10.
Perhaps the most die-hard fan in the crowd was Nancy Roepke of Pompton Plains. A hat topped with the Stanley Cup replicas with the years 1995, 2000 and 2003 was perched on her head.
"Soon as they won, I started working on it," said Roepke, who went to every regular season home game, all the playoff matches and the finals. "The night they won, we stayed until 3:30 in the morning until they came out. They brought out the Cup. We touched the Cup."
For some, like Rider University student Bryan Thompson of Brooklyn, the number 3 held special purpose: It's the Devils third cup and each victory over the Ducks was decided by a three-goal margin. "It must be something," Thompson said.
His friend, Katie Keenan also of Brooklyn, wore an autographed Devils jersey tied around her waist. The New Yorker credits her dad for her river-crossing taste in hockey. "He took me to a Rangers game when I was like 4 or 5, and there were all these old guys drunk and swearing. He said 'I can't bring my daughter to something like that.' We came to the Meadowlands, and it wasn't like that," Keenan said.
The celebration could be fans' last at the Continental Airlines Arena. The Devils and Nets are part of the YankeeNets conglomerate, which has been trying for several years to reach a deal to construct a new professional sports arena in downtown Newark.
Hours after the celebration, three 21-year-old fans found their way inside the arena and thrilled themselves by sliding around on the ice.
"How much would we give for a camera right now? This will be a barroom story," said Michael Sinnott of Elizabeth. He was joined by Anthony Zignauskas, of Elizabeth, and Scott Walezyk, of Roselle.
Walezyk said when the team won the championship, the three friends were sitting behind the goal where the Devils mobbed Brodeur.
Eventually, arena security asked the three men to leave, and they happily did so.
foberto* 04-08-2008, 11:47 AM Not to mention he's mathematically challenged as we were actually 20th. If you're going to insult someone, you should at least be capable of using the proper statistics.
That's funny, cuz the FACTS (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2008) say otherwise.
But keep knocking my post count and avoiding the points. If I were you guys, I'd be avoiding those points also, it makes you guys look pretty sad.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 11:47 AM Sorry man, just not true anymore. NJ Papers don't even have beat writers for the Rangers anymore. Just Associated press now..I would agree with you ten years ago..but times have changed.
Only time the Rangers were on the cover of either tabloid this season was when the Avery prostitution story. (He pays for it btw)
They put the Knicks or off season baseball well before them.
The Star Ledger had the Devs as the main story on front of the sports many times this season.
What other fan base is so proud of attendance and coporate sellouts? There only seems to be one. Their hatred and obsession of the Devils is mind boggling.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:47 AM Pretty funny for you to talk about trolls when you were the one who brought up the subject in the first place as a shot about the Rangers. :sarcasm:
On my own board.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 11:47 AM New Jersey gives as much or more of a **** about the Rangers than they do the Devils. That's a bit worse, IMO. ;)
Who would that be? Overweight old timer sports fans or the kids and thier parents coming up in the local leagues here.
You put the Coyotes in the the garden and they would sell out as much as the rangers.
your attendence it strictly based on location.
Yet your lower bowl is always 1/4 full. Get over yourself
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:48 AM Only time the Rangers were on the cover of either tabloid this season was when the Avery prostitution story. (He pays for it btw)
They put the Knicks or off season baseball well before them.
The Star Ledger had the Devs as the main story on front of the sports many times this season.
What other fan base is so proud of attendance and coporate sellouts? There only seems to be one. Their hatred and obsession of the Devils is mind boggling.
And yours of the Rangers isn't? Never a minute goes by when Lundqvist isn't called Queen or MSG isn't made fun of. It goes both ways, DevsOwnYou. When you guys try to play it off like it doesn't it just gets pretty laughable.
ALine9900 04-08-2008, 11:49 AM That's funny, cuz the FACTS (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2008) say otherwise.
But keep knocking my post count and avoiding the points. If I were you guys, I'd be avoiding those points also, it makes you guys look pretty sad.
Dude, when Rangers fans have you on ignore, its time to shut up.
foberto* 04-08-2008, 11:50 AM Wow...can't wait until you unleash some of that knowledge on us, cause from what I can see so far you're just the latest troll to appear on these boards. What was your screen name before you got banned?
I just did unleash some of that knowledge on you. I informed all of you that your mistakenly high regard of your attendance this year actually puts you 23rd in the league.
See! You can thank me later kiddos :handclap:
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:50 AM Who would that be? Overweight old timer sports fans or the kids and thier parents coming up in the local leagues here.
You put the Coyotes in the the garden and they would sell out as much as the rangers.
your attendence it strictly based on location.
Yet your lower bowl is always 1/4 full. Get over yourself
Might be that! I know it's not a huge sample size, but two of the last 3 big-time NJ prospects (Bobby Sanguinetti and James vanRiemsdyk) are both big-time Rangers fans.
Jiri Bicek 04-08-2008, 11:50 AM The temp the day of that parade was awful.. Some lady just collapsed right next to me
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:50 AM Haha I know this type, new with the internet are ya?
I can pick out these aging Rangers fans anywhere, all they do is rag on attendance, giving them some sort of solace for watching the Devils win 3 cups since 1995. This is the only bad thing about NJ Transit, it gives these drunks an opportunity to go to games.
Don't give him attention by posting every post he made. :shakehead
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 11:51 AM dont worry... i got 2 tickets for game 6 this morning and I already am selling them on stubbhub for twice their face value. I hate the rangers fans, but Ill gladly take their money :yo:
Yeah I got 4 tix in the 300s for the game on sunday and have the 0ther two on stub hub for 5xc the price.
Das Uber 04-08-2008, 11:51 AM Pretty funny for you to talk about trolls when you were the one who brought up the subject in the first place as a shot about the Rangers. :sarcasm:
According to a mod on your board, we can bash the Rangers all we want on our board. You are trolling if you come here and disagree with us no matter how incorrect/outlandish our comments may be.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:52 AM On my own board.
...and? Trolling's always been trolling. Rangers fans get warned on their own board from time to time, you know. It's not like rules magically disappear.
Leopold Stotch 04-08-2008, 11:52 AM Of course I don't blame Devils fans for attendance problems over the years at CAA. Bad location, crappy arena, franchise relatively new to the area.
Good thing is the PruCenter is awesome and hopefully those problems are in the past. It looks from the regular season that attendance figures are heading in the right direction.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:52 AM I just did unleash some of that knowledge on you. I informed all of you that your mistakenly high regard of your attendance this year actually puts you 23rd in the league.
See! You can thank me later kiddos :handclap:
Do they hand out awards for attendance? I am sorry that you probably never got to see a cup raised in person. I am 25 and have already experienced it.
The Devils will be here for a long, long time, so I dont understand the attendance stuff, we draw more than other clubs, and for some reason no one gives the Bruins ****, you know that original six team that we draw more than. All your posts are about the Devils, but arent we irrelevant?
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 11:53 AM And yours of the Rangers isn't? Never a minute goes by when Lundqvist isn't called Queen or MSG isn't made fun of. It goes both ways, DevsOwnYou. When you guys try to play it off like it doesn't it just gets pretty laughable.
on the Rangers board? I don't think so. we don't troll very often like a lot of your fellow "fans" like to do over here. I'm not calling you a troll, I think many of your thoughts are flawed, maybe because due to a lack of experience and youth. But you are resepctful and welcome here for debate. The other genius with 8 posts is another matter.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:53 AM According to a mod on your board, we can bash the Rangers all we want on our board. You are trolling if you come here and disagree with us no matter how incorrect/outlandish our comments may be.
Bashing is one thing and trolling is another. You respond with flames and trolling comments to Rangers posters isn't bashing the team or whatnot.
And I am trolling by disagreeing? You're kidding, right? :laugh:
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:54 AM on the Rangers board? I don't think so. we don't troll very often like a lot of your fellow "fans" like to do over here. I'm not calling you a troll, I think many of your thoughts are flawed, maybe because due to a lack of experience and youth. But you are resepctful and welcome here for debate. The other genius with 8 posts is another matter.
You think my "thoughts are flawed" because you disagree with me. Let's not beat around the bush, here. ;) :p:
Jiri Bicek 04-08-2008, 11:54 AM Don't even respond to foberto.. Do not feed the trolls.. They'll go away
Does every thread involving the Rangers have to turn to an attendance battle.. It's the same old tired **** every time.. What's the point of going back and forth if it won't be solved?
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:55 AM Our mods dont automatically delete posts from rival fans, so what are we to do.
Take it to the Rangers board, with your attendance cup banners. The Nazi party had alot of fans too.
I don't know, read the FAQ and figure out how to use the ignore list rather than flame incessantly and troll yourself? The ignore list is a wonderful thing.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:56 AM I don't know, read the FAQ and figure out how to use the ignore list rather than flame incessantly and troll yourself? The ignore list is a wonderful thing.
How can I troll my own board? The only person I seem to be bothering are the Rangers fans on a Devils message board.
Pop in the 1994 DVD, pat yourself on the back, and dont post here, simple as that.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 11:57 AM Umm, 88.3% capacity puts you in 23rd in the league in attendance. With the nicest, newest arena, and years of success behind it.
You're PROUD of that? :amazed:
What a troll. What are you 12? I am not even gonna get into it with you because I don't want to lower myself to your :avery: standard.
Just I will say, How many cups you guys got over the last 50 years? :sarcasm:
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 11:58 AM How can I troll my own board? The only person I seem to be bothering are the Rangers fans on a Devils message board.
Pop in the 1994 DVD, pat yourself on the back, and dont post here, simple as that.
No poopola. You do this on thier board and the mods get mad at you. :shakehead
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:58 AM What a troll. What are you 12? I am not even gonna get into it with you because I don't want to lower myself to your :avery: standard.
Just I will say, How many cups you guys got over the last 50 years? :sarcasm:
Shhh they are a storied franchise shhhh
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 11:58 AM How can I troll my own board? The only person I seem to be bothering are the Rangers fans on a Devils message board.
Pop in the 1994 DVD, pat yourself on the back, and dont post here, simple as that.
Trolling: Do not post topics with the sole purpose of starting a dispute. Note that a person disagreeing with your opinion is NOT trolling; keep it civil, even if you're sure the other person is wrong. When visiting the team forums please note that they are fan forums for that team and are here mainly for the enjoyment of that team's fans. Do not visit team forums to cheer against or demean their team, or cheer for their opponent. In other words, if you want to cheer for the Habs and criticize the Bruins, do it on the Habs board. And if someone is doing the opposite on the Bruins board, don't start flaming them to defend the honor of your team. Either ignore it respectfully disagree and move on. Wishing illness or injury on someone will almost always be regarded as trolling or offensive. We do not permit team forums to be used to demean/insult the fans of other teams. That is considered trolling. Bringing posts from one team forum to another for this purpose is also considered trolling.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 11:59 AM You think my "thoughts are flawed" because you disagree with me. Let's not beat around the bush, here. ;) :p:
I think yer flawed cause you a Ranger fan.
1st step is admitting you have a problem..... :naughty::sarcasm:
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 11:59 AM Devils fans stop trolling on the Devils board and let Jonathan and attendancetroll#571b talk to themselves.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 12:01 PM Jesus Christ, imagine if the Rangers won more than 1 cup in 70 seasons, the trolls would turn into some super uber troll that would shut down the internet.
Mr Bojanglez 04-08-2008, 12:02 PM The best part about that is, "When that defense becomes, "We've won more Cups" is crosses the line into trolling"
I was in that thread... we never even mentioned that. He just kind of brought that out of nowhere and acted like we were saying it (unless he deleted a post... which is possible)
But whatever. They do things differently over there then we do over here. Our Mods are pretty good at letting some things go, and they do their own thing over there.
... I think ours are more gooder :yo::nod::laugh::sarcasm:
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 12:03 PM You think my "thoughts are flawed" because you disagree with me. Let's not beat around the bush, here. ;) :p:
many are flawed and many are vaild. you're batting .500%! Pretty good in MLB. ;)
Go Devs!
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:03 PM Jesus Christ, imagine if the Rangers won more than 1 cup in 70 seasons, the trolls would turn into some super uber troll that would shut down the internet.
So we'd be like Devils fans? :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
(Note the sarcastic smiley -- and the 2nd one to make sure the point is clear that this post is a joke)
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2008, 12:04 PM See you posers at the Rock tomorrow and Friday :yo:
So when you cant find 4 people wearing a Rangers hat around MSG yet a million people show up to the cup parade, that isnt posing?
Sorry we swept you in 2006, that must have hurt. Sorry that the only history your team has involves pissing in a cup. Remember that "trap" you guys hated, you are welcome. But shh shh its just good defense now right?
SingnBluesOnBroadway 04-08-2008, 12:08 PM I am trying to clean up the mess a Ranger fan has made here. If anyone has any questions, do so via PM.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 12:09 PM So we'd be like Devils fans? :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
(Note the sarcastic smiley -- and the 2nd one to make sure the point is clear that this post is a joke)
No dood the second one negates the first one. :D
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:09 PM No dood the second one negates the first one. :D
Stop PICKING on me :( :p:
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 12:12 PM Stop PICKING on me :( :p:
Now you are trying to confuse me with hyroglyphic dual post smileys. What is that sum sort of Zen Koan? I CANT FIGURE YOUR EMOTIONS OUT! :eek:
Brooklyndevil 04-08-2008, 12:12 PM I'm starting to think that it may be a good idea to take a week or so off from posting on HF, starting tomorrow. :shakehead
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:12 PM Now you are trying to confuse me with hyroglyphic dual post smileys. What is that sum sort of Zen Koan? I CANT FIGURE YOUR EMOTIONS OUT! :eek:
THE IRON MIND. :naughty::naughty::naughty:
HBK27 04-08-2008, 12:14 PM I am trying to clean up the mess a Ranger fan has made here. If anyone has any questions, do so via PM.
Thank you for that.
britdevil 04-08-2008, 12:21 PM Trolling: Do not post topics with the sole purpose of starting a dispute. Note that a person disagreeing with your opinion is NOT trolling; keep it civil, even if you're sure the other person is wrong. When visiting the team forums please note that they are fan forums for that team and are here mainly for the enjoyment of that team's fans. Do not visit team forums to cheer against or demean their team, or cheer for their opponent. In other words, if you want to cheer for the Habs and criticize the Bruins, do it on the Habs board. And if someone is doing the opposite on the Bruins board, don't start flaming them to defend the honor of your team. Either ignore it respectfully disagree and move on. Wishing illness or injury on someone will almost always be regarded as trolling or offensive. We do not permit team forums to be used to demean/insult the fans of other teams. That is considered trolling. Bringing posts from one team forum to another for this purpose is also considered trolling.
We arent demeaning your fans. Were :Sean Avery:ing about the arena and the Queen.
I could care less about Ranger fans. Its the Ranger players that I dislike, and as a sports fan I have a right to poke fun at them. On my teams message board.
i thought out attendance was pretty good. 88.3% of capacity. a far cry from CAA. also consider the awful rep that newark has may have kept some fans away. i dont ever think we will be a 100% team, devils fans seem to be jaded towards success. the first 2 rounds of the playoffs dont even sell out because we have been there regularly. maybe a long drought would change this (no rangers) but who knows.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:24 PM We arent demeaning your fans. Were :Sean Avery:ing about the arena and the Queen.
I could care less about Ranger fans. Its the Ranger players that I dislike, and as a sports fan I have a right to poke fun at them. On my teams message board.
I think the whole using players names instead of curses is hysterical. Very original and I laugh at it each time I see it. :laugh::handclap:
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:25 PM i thought out attendance was pretty good. 88.3% of capacity. a far cry from CAA. also consider the awful rep that newark has may have kept some fans away. i dont ever think we will be a 100% team, devils fans seem to be jaded towards success. the first 2 rounds of the playoffs dont even sell out because we have been there regularly. maybe a long drought would change this (no rangers) but who knows.
You need to look at the overall number, still. You're averaging about 1.3K more per game. While an improvement is still not what the # should be for a first year arena. I don't know if it's Devils fans simply rather watching the game from home or what, but that number needs to improve...
Mr Bojanglez 04-08-2008, 12:27 PM You need to look at the overall number, still. You're averaging about 1.3K more per game. While an improvement is still not what the # should be for a first year arena. I don't know if it's Devils fans simply rather watching the game from home or what, but that number needs to improve...
what SHOULD it be then?
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:30 PM what SHOULD it be then?
At LEAST 16K a game on average.
I said this last year: If the building isn't selling out more often than not, than it's likely a failure.
It's a first year building. Gorgeous and the best arena I have ever been to in my entire life. It's a shame, really.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 12:30 PM You need to look at the overall number, still. You're averaging about 1.3K more per game. While an improvement is still not what the # should be for a first year arena. I don't know if it's Devils fans simply rather watching the game from home or what, but that number needs to improve...
The topic is old and we should all move on and focus on the first round.
i agree it should be more, but again, you are moving into a city that people are afraid of, and one that is much less friendly toward drivers. caa was easy, newark isnt as much. the devils changed their official directions at some point, i assume it is because of neighborhoods because the new ones are actually longer. but parking prices are much higher and unless you get there super early you have to fight for a spot in a close lot. oh, and pay $25.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 12:31 PM At LEAST 16K a game on average.
I said this last year: If the building isn't selling out more often than not, than it's likely a failure.
It's a first year building. Gorgeous and the best arena I have ever been to in my entire life. It's a shame, really.
This is where your lack of experience and understanding of business makes you look ignorant. Like I said above, let's move on to a viable topic. Comprendo?
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:32 PM The topic is old and we should all move on and focus on the first round.
Too much :deadhorse?
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 12:33 PM This is where your lack of experience and understanding of business makes you look ignorant. Like I said above, let's move on to a viable topic. Comprendo?
I fail to see how I look ignorant in the least. Negligible improvement for a first year, grand arena can only be looked at as a slight failure (but a failure none-the-less). But I agree. Move on.
Jiri Bicek 04-08-2008, 12:35 PM You need to look at the overall number, still. You're averaging about 1.3K more per game. While an improvement is still not what the # should be for a first year arena. I don't know if it's Devils fans simply rather watching the game from home or what, but that number needs to improve...
I think it will improve once the balcony and mezz seat $ are fixed..
It seemed to be the same thing every home game.. A packed upper deck, decent lower bowl and empty balcony and mezz
Here's to hopes of another year for student/family plans :crossfing
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 12:35 PM I fail to see how I look ignorant in the least. Negligible improvement for a first year, grand arena can only be looked at as a slight failure (but a failure none-the-less). But I agree. Move on.
I will just point out in 6 months they have have 1 million fans of various events. so lets say 2 million people * the average ticket price.
anyone? anyone?
DevilBesideYou 04-08-2008, 01:13 PM I think it will improve once the balcony and mezz seat $ are fixed..
It seemed to be the same thing every home game.. A packed upper deck, decent lower bowl and empty balcony and mezz
Here's to hopes of another year for student/family plans :crossfing
Not only that, but more favorable scheduling should help too (I hope - we'll see how things are with playing the west more often). But for example, we only had 5 Saturday home games. Montreal, I think, had 17. And I think total, we only had 9 Saturday + Sunday games. So more weekend games should help.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 02:02 PM I will just point out in 6 months they have have 1 million fans of various events. so lets say 2 million people * the average ticket price.
anyone? anyone?
I'm talking about the Devils in general. Not other events.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:11 PM I'm talking about the Devils in general. Not other events.
Sure lets look at things in a vacuume. That makes sense. I mean when the owner of the devils essentially owns the arena and takes in money for all events, what part does that play in to the bottom line right johnny boy? :D
Even she can see the logic in this and it did not cost me $500 or a bottle of gatorade!
http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2008/03/30/amd_davis.jpg :D:D
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:24 PM At LEAST 16K a game on average.
I said this last year: If the building isn't selling out more often than not, than it's likely a failure.
It's a first year building. Gorgeous and the best arena I have ever been to in my entire life. It's a shame, really.
Attendance has been up after the new year. My dad (a season ticket holder) has said that he's seen bigger crowds on average since mid January or so.
I think people have started to realize (and this is indeed a factor) that the arena really is in a fine area and the Newark police have done a fine job. Plus, people who have gotten to see the Arena for the first time will definitely come back.
Put it this way: The Devils had a great team last year, but still only drew an average of 14,176 out of 19040 at CAA.
The Devils have a good team this year as well as well as a new arena. They've managed to draw 15,564 out of 17,625. They're fourth in the league in attendance increases behind the Blues, Blackhawks, and Caps - all teams that vastly improved from last year and therefore will obviously see increases.
Simply put the Devils attendance has gone the way that owners predicted. Vanderbeek never said, not once, that he expected a sellout every game. However, we've managed to draw more people than we did in a building with 2,000 more capacity, and that in itself is a small success.
In other words, Devils attendance did exactly what Devils management thought and hoped it would.
I fail, miserably, to see how this is a "shame".
I could personally care less whether we sell out every game. I've had an awesome time at the 10 or so games I've been to this year, and that's really all that matters to me.
To put it simply, I, and no other Devils fan cares whether or not the Rangers sell out every game. Somehow, the NHL managed to leave attendance out of the standings YET AGAIN, and we managed to finish above you, yet again.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:26 PM Attendance has been up after the new year. My dad (a season ticket holder) has said that he's seen bigger crowds on average since mid January or so.
I think people have started to realize (and this is indeed a factor) that the arena really is in a fine area and the Newark police have done a fine job. Plus, people who have gotten to see the Arena for the first time will definitely come back.
Put it this way: The Devils had a great team last year, but still only drew an average of 14,176 out of 19040 at CAA.
The Devils have a good team this year as well as well as a new arena. They've managed to draw 15,564 out of 17,625. They're fourth in the league in attendance increases behind the Blues, Blackhawks, and Caps - all teams that vastly improved from last year and therefore will obviously see increases.
Simply put the Devils attendance has gone the way that owners predicted. Vanderbeek never said, not once, that he expected a sellout every game. However, we've managed to draw more people than we did in a building with 2,000 more capacity, and that in itself is a small success.
In other words, Devils attendance did exactly what Devils management thought and hoped it would.
I fail, miserably, to see how this is a "shame".
I could personally care less whether we sell out every game. I've had an awesome time at the 10 or so games I've been to this year, and that's really all that matters to me.
To put it simply, I, and no other Devils fan cares whether or not the Rangers sell out every game. Somehow, the NHL managed to leave attendance out of the standings YET AGAIN, and we managed to finish above you, yet again.
You sir are a better man than I. I have only been saying this 50+ times now. I no longer even bother. They see what they want to see.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 02:29 PM You sir are a better man than I. I have only been saying this 50+ times now. I no longer even bother. They see what they want to see.
You mean we only see stats and facts, right?
The simple fact is that you've drawn more because of the new building factor -- and not nearly as much as it should've been, IMO.
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:30 PM You sir are a better man than I. I have only been saying this 50+ times now. I no longer even bother. They see what they want to see.
I'm really trying to understand how the new arena can be called even a "slight" failure.
If attendance stayed the same, I would whole-heartedly agree with Jonathan. That's just not the case though. Season ticket sales skyrocketed and there's a several hundred person waiting list for club seats (again, I'm sorry if it isn't several thousand or even million for that matter like the Rangers have).
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 02:33 PM I'm really trying to understand how the new arena can be called even a "slight" failure.
If attendance stayed the same, I would whole-heartedly agree with Jonathan. That's just not the case though. Season ticket sales skyrocketed and there's a several hundred person waiting list for club seats (again, I'm sorry if it isn't several thousand or even million for that matter like the Rangers have).
The attendance was a mild increase of 1.3K fans or so averaged per game.
You should be at 16/16.5K at least with this new building.
Can't see how you guys can be happy with the lack of sell-outs and overall attendance.
But to each his own.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 02:34 PM The attendance was a mild increase of 1.3K fans or so averaged per game.
You should be at 16/16.5K at least with this new building.
Can't see how you guys can be happy with the lack of sell-outs and overall attendance.
But to each his own.
You're still beating the horse? Yawn
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:34 PM You mean we only see stats and facts, right?
The simple fact is that you've drawn more because of the new building factor -- and not nearly as much as it should've been, IMO.
Obviously it's only because of the new building factor because we've once again iced a competitive team...that fact is understood. Teams like St. Louis, Chicago, and Washington have increased because of better teams. I pointed this out before.
I'm not sure how you can put an exact figure on attendance, saying "16k" at least. At games, and I'm sure most will agree, the upper bowl is almost always completely filled, and it tends to be the lower bowl, not including the club seats, that are about 3/4's full.
I'm just puzzled at how you can call the arena a failure, when the management of the Devils and owners of the building itself have deemed it successful to this point?
Again, sorry we can't quite mirror the Rangers fanbase and I'm sorry if that's what you're basing your opinion here on.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:36 PM You mean we only see stats and facts, right?
What "stats and facts"? I pointed out the 2 million dollar and average ticket price at the arena that the DEVILS OWN and you dismissed it without comment. See you want to look at something in a vaccume to bash the devils organization. Fact is we are up 10% in the first year in a new city that few went to before and will be moreso when they adjust the ticket prices accordingly.
I think the owner JV is VERY happy with his investment. It's nice having an owner that is an actual fan.
The simple fact is that you've drawn more because of the new building factor -- and not nearly as much as it should've been, IMO.
How much should it have been and what ROI models are you using to come to this logical conclusion,... or was it just an emotional commentary?
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:36 PM The attendance was a mild increase of 1.3K fans or so averaged per game.
You should be at 16/16.5K at least with this new building.
Can't see how you guys can be happy with the lack of sell-outs and overall attendance.
But to each his own.
In a building that houses 2,000 less than CAA.
And if you do write for Forbes magazine and have those "16-16.5" figures exactly right based on a number of factors, step forward because I'm looking for help with my microeconomics homework.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:37 PM Obviously it's only because of the new building factor because we've once again iced a competitive team...that fact is understood. Teams like St. Louis, Chicago, and Washington have increased because of better teams. I pointed this out before.
I'm not sure how you can put an exact figure on attendance, saying "16k" at least. At games, and I'm sure most will agree, the upper bowl is almost always completely filled, and it tends to be the lower bowl, not including the club seats, that are about 3/4's full.
I'm just puzzled at how you can call the arena a failure, when the management of the Devils and owners of the building itself have deemed it successful to this point?
Again, sorry we can't quite mirror the Rangers fanbase and I'm sorry if that's what you're basing your opinion here on.
no see its more of that silly jealousy, they have 50+ years of failure on the ice, so they go after the better team where they can.
:shakehead
ALine9900 04-08-2008, 02:39 PM The attendance was a mild increase of 1.3K fans or so averaged per game.
You should be at 16/16.5K at least with this new building.
Can't see how you guys can be happy with the lack of sell-outs and overall attendance.
But to each his own.
Um, because the Rock is COMPLETELY different than CAA. The atmosphere, even with a "mild" increase in attendance, is awesome.
NYRangers88 04-08-2008, 02:39 PM People. The fact of the matter is the Rangers will always have a larger fan base. Period. It was always that way, and will always be that way. At a time like this, days before the playoffs start, does it really matter?
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:39 PM no see its more of that silly jealousy, they have 50+ years of failure on the ice, so they go after the better team where they can.
:shakehead
I'm actually curious as to where Jonathan is getting these numbers as well as his reasoning. I'm hoping he has a logical answer and isn't just doing this out of spite for the Devils.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:40 PM People. The fact of the matter is the Rangers will have a larger fan base. Period. It was always that way, and will always be that way. At a time like this, days before the playoffs start, does it really matter?
You are right, but any team that calls NYC home will, has nothing to do with the rangers organization itself. Put the coyotes there and they would do the same.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 02:40 PM The three times I've went to the rock, I never noticed the upper bowl "almost completely filled" and I sat in it twice. Able to move up and down sections and left and right without stepping over anyone. One game VS the Islanders and one VS the Flyers.
And in my club seats the 3rd time, we could freely move around but I chalk that up to the club being far better than anything. Ever. :handclap:
I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen with my own eyes and what I see in attendance records.
And why should it matter what the **** the owners and Devils management say? They are the last ones who should have any amount of negativity in their speeches since that could drive away people from going to the game. They need to spin, spin, spin as that brings people in.
I'm done with this topic. Said my piece (which was the same as last year before the arena was ever opened -- look who was right!) and I'm done with it.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 02:42 PM Um, because the Rock is COMPLETELY different than CAA. The atmosphere, even with a "mild" increase in attendance, is awesome.
While I agree that the atmosphere was solid VS the Flyers and Ducks, the game I saw against the Islanders was the worst crowed I have ever seen at a hockey game. Could've heard a pin drop.
Horrible game and all, but horrible crowd as well. Youch. It was that 0-1 loss for you guys a while back against them.
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:42 PM People. The fact of the matter is the Rangers will always have a larger fan base. Period. It was always that way, and will always be that way. At a time like this, days before the playoffs start, does it really matter?
Did I not just point that out earlier? Any Devils fan with half a brain realizes fully that the Rangers have and always will have a larger fanbase. And again, sorry they still haven't found a way to award you more points in the standings for more attendance. Maybe at the GM meetings next year Sather can bring that up.
Sorry if I come off harsh, must be the game tomorrow that's got me all hot and bothered:nod:.
NYRangers88 04-08-2008, 02:43 PM no see its more of that silly jealousy, they have 50+ years of failure on the ice, so they go after the better team where they can.
:shakehead
This is a retarded statement. Trust me, no Ranger fan is jealous of anything the Devils have or have done.
Jonathan. 04-08-2008, 02:44 PM In a building that houses 2,000 less than CAA.
And if you do write for Forbes magazine and have those "16-16.5" figures exactly right based on a number of factors, step forward because I'm looking for help with my microeconomics homework.
Hey, I passed micro with an A, so I'm all for helping you out ;)
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:45 PM The three times I've went to the rock, I never noticed the upper bowl "almost completely filled" and I sat in it twice. Able to move up and down sections and left and right without stepping over anyone. One game VS the Islanders and one VS the Flyers.
2 things.
1. What dates, I would like to pull up the box scores with attendence.
2. You are basing what it is like 42 nights a year on 2 visits?
And in my club seats the 3rd time, we could freely move around but I chalk that up to the club being far better than anything. Ever. :handclap:
There is a 300 person waiting list for those seats.
I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen with my own eyes and what I see in attendance records.
twice on dubious occasions. And why does a Ranger fan care so much about Devils attendence?
And why should it matter what the **** the owners and Devils management say? They are the last ones who should have any amount of negativity in their speeches since that could drive away people from going to the game. They need to spin, spin, spin as that brings people in.
I'm done with this topic. Said my piece (which was the same as last year before the arena was ever opened -- look who was right!) and I'm done with it.
Good riddance!
Your piece was worth what any Rangers on Devils attendanc "piece" is worth. BUNK.
fortheloveof666 04-08-2008, 02:46 PM This is a retarded statement. Trust me, no Ranger fan is jealous of anything the Devils have or have done.
well when they run out of numbers to retire from 94, you're gonna have to ;)
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:46 PM This is a retarded statement. Trust me, no Ranger fan is jealous of anything the Devils have or have done.
Right, you wish you had the banners we do. That's the nature of hockey. But you keep telling yourself that pal. :sarcasm:
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:49 PM 2 things.
1. What dates, I would like to pull up the box scores with attendence.
2. You are basing what it is like 42 nights a year on 2 visits?
There is a 300 person waiting list for those seats.
twice on dubious occasions. And why does a Ranger fan care so much about Devils attendence?
Good riddance!
Your piece was worth what any Rangers on Devils attendanc "piece" is worth. BUNK.
Because that's the Achilles Heel of this organization. The only weakness, but it's getting stronger. Muahahaha
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:50 PM While I agree that the atmosphere was solid VS the Flyers and Ducks, the game I saw against the Islanders was the worst crowed I have ever seen at a hockey game. Could've heard a pin drop.
Horrible game and all, but horrible crowd as well. Youch. It was that 0-1 loss for you guys a while back against them.
Right, you mean this one? I was there as well.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/11/devils_blanked_again_10.html
Shut out for the fifth time already in 19 games this season, the Devils lost their sixth straight game to local rivals as they fell to the Islanders, 1-0, last night before a crowd of 15,076 at the Prudential Center.
And I bet you are going to tell me the Garden would not have been just as quiet after losing 6 games in a row,. :shakehead
britdevil 04-08-2008, 02:50 PM http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/nathiscool/john.jpg
RMBoner Stabone 04-08-2008, 02:52 PM The three times I've went to the rock, I never noticed the upper bowl "almost completely filled" and I sat in it twice. Able to move up and down sections and left and right without stepping over anyone. One game VS the Islanders and one VS the Flyers.
And in my club seats the 3rd time, we could freely move around but I chalk that up to the club being far better than anything. Ever. :handclap:
I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen with my own eyes and what I see in attendance records.
And why should it matter what the **** the owners and Devils management say? They are the last ones who should have any amount of negativity in their speeches since that could drive away people from going to the game. They need to spin, spin, spin as that brings people in.
I'm done with this topic. Said my piece (which was the same as last year before the arena was ever opened -- look who was right!) and I'm done with it.
Your eyes are covered by Dolan's arabian goggles.
Attendance drivel aside, same goes for MSG attendance as well and NHL attendance in general. I wouldn't expect anything less from Rangers fans about Devils attendance and how the new arena is a failure because your eyes and you said so. So based on your premise of spin, MSG doesn't lie about demand and their attendance?
Clarkson Falls Down 04-08-2008, 02:52 PM As always John, your internet wizardry beat us all.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/nathiscool/john.jpg
Haha, whatta nerd. :biglaugh:
trueblue9441 04-08-2008, 02:52 PM Right, you wish you had the banners we do. That's the nature of hockey. But you keep telling yourself that pal. :sarcasm:
i certainly for one am not jealous of what the devils did.. if we played the same style of hockey as you did in the late 90's maybe we could have had the same type of success you guys did. we play that way now and we have success now as well.. and on the attendance front its good that you guys had a significant increase but i thought the increase would have been a lot higher in the 16,225 range per game. you guys didnt do bad by all means, but i think you could have done better.. nonetheless the building is amazing and hopefully you guys pack the house a little bit more next year because its good for hockey in the area
fortheloveof666 04-08-2008, 02:53 PM not that I'm not a little guilty of it...but does this really need to turn into a pissing match? here are the facts
Rags own us in the playoffs, they beat us and our rookie goaltender in double OT, went to the finals, and beat Vancouver in 7 at home.
The next season after a shortened year, the Devils won their first Stanley Cup.
Two years later the Rangers would eliminate the Devils from the playoffs in what would be their last season in roughly 9 years in the big show.
From then, while the Rags were at home bragging about how many people showed up to their games this season, we sold out playoff games made 3 finals appearances and won 2 Stanley Cups.
Does anything else really matter? Great, better attendance...but isn't the entire sport based around winning championships? I'm pretty sure no team shows up at the beginning of the season like "hey guys, I'm just here for the free beer."
Nothing else matters besides winning and championships, and thankfully for the last 13 years we've been spoiled (sans 96) with being in the playoffs and a lot of winning. Be happy with that, you don't have to go back and forth with a bunch of people that think how many people shows up constitutes anything in the sport itself. The only thing attendance matters to is franchises themselves, and if we can win without sell outs and spending ridiculous millions on players...then are we really THAT inferior?
end it ladies. it's frivolous.
NYRangers88 04-08-2008, 02:54 PM Right, you wish you had the banners we do. That's the nature of hockey. But you keep telling yourself that pal. :sarcasm:
No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:55 PM i certainly for one am not jealous of what the devils did.. if we played the same style of hockey as you did in the late 90's maybe we could have had the same type of success you guys did. we play that way now and we have success now as well.. and on the attendance front its good that you guys had a significant increase but i thought the increase would have been a lot higher in the 16,225 range per game. you guys didnt do bad by all means, but i think you could have done better.. nonetheless the building is amazing and hopefully you guys pack the house a little bit more next year because its good for hockey in the area
I hear that all the time, but I don't buy it. but anyway I think it will do even better next year. then the year after that. I mean if we counted like dolan we could have had at least 5 more sellouts. :sarcasm:
RMBoner Stabone 04-08-2008, 02:55 PM This is a retarded statement. Trust me, no Ranger fan is jealous of anything the Devils have or have done.
You are right, of the original Six the Rangers have the greatest history. They have been tossed for a circus and won four cups, of which three came in the pre1967 era and one came using Hessians from Edmonton. Wear the futility with pride.
ALine9900 04-08-2008, 02:57 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
And the only reason you have a single cup since there were SIX TEAMS is because you trade for half the ****ing Oilers. The only tradition the NYR have is being arrogant and ripping on successful franchises.
RMBoner Stabone 04-08-2008, 02:57 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
You should send a Statue of some sort like the French did for NY to the city of Edmonton for 1994.
1994 = 100 cups.
Another asinine statement by a silly Rangers fan.
How are you going to take over the building? Are you going to be hijacking it?
Clarkson Falls Down 04-08-2008, 02:57 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
:biglaugh:
This is a funny statement. What are we supposed to be ashamed of Brodeur because he's been so good? Would we rather have Dan Cloutier in net? What team has won a Cup without a good starting goaltender? Bad attempt at trolling. :shakehead
And by takeover do you mean like this:
http://images.scholastic.co.uk/assets/products/9780439014571/9780439014571.jpg
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 02:57 PM This is a retarded statement. Trust me, no Ranger fan is jealous of anything the Devils have or have done.
Keep making yourself believe that and go away troll.
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 02:58 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
Cool it, man. You seemed like a pretty reasonable guy before this post.
britdevil 04-08-2008, 02:58 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
1994 was magical, seeing all those old Oilers make a comeback. What a championship!!!
Of course, we never had great players in New Jersey, other than Marty (who apparently isnt even as good as the Queen). God damn Lemaire and his trap.
Jiri Bicek 04-08-2008, 02:59 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
1994 is more "incredable" because your a Rangers fan.. If you were a Devils fan I'm sure you would like the 3 cups more.. Or our 2 1/2 :sarcasm:
Yes.. Let's be one of those that take away the best player on the team and say, ".. if you didn't have him..." :shakehead
If you didn't have Messier, would 1994 had happen? What if you didn't have Richter??
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 02:59 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined.
BAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHHAAAAAHAHAAAAAHAHAHA AA!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
I am laughing and it is not with you
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Your delusions of grandeur are making you make foolish statments.
Why was it more "incredable"[sic] than all 3 of ours combined.
This ought to be rich!
And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling.
Right cause Stevens and Nieds, and Daneyko had nothing to do with it. You are prolly the same type of ranger fan who would argue that Marty was only good because of the D in front of him. If I use the search will I find? :laugh:
I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
What an idiotic statment. Were you at the last game? 20% tops rangers fans and they were drowned out all night long.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
BAAAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAH! you are actually getting mad here on the devils section of a hockey board because you don't like for us to think you are jealous?
You doth protest too much! :sarcasm:
Clarkson Falls Down 04-08-2008, 03:00 PM The ki-bosh is going to be put on this thread pretty soon. A couple of Rangers fans are having a hard time staying composed.
fortheloveof666 04-08-2008, 03:01 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2008, 03:01 PM i certainly for one am not jealous of what the devils did.. if we played the same style of hockey as you did in the late 90's maybe we could have had the same type of success you guys did. we play that way now and we have success now as well.. and on the attendance front its good that you guys had a significant increase but i thought the increase would have been a lot higher in the 16,225 range per game. you guys didnt do bad by all means, but i think you could have done better.. nonetheless the building is amazing and hopefully you guys pack the house a little bit more next year because its good for hockey in the area
Maybe if the Devs had offered aging and over-the-hill free agents silly contracts and traded away their farm system they could have missed the playoffs for 7 CONSECUTIVE seasons too. I am so jealous of that remarkable accomplishment. :nod:
Look up goals scored in 2000 and 2001 while you're at it.
RMBoner Stabone 04-08-2008, 03:01 PM The ki-bosh is going to be put on this thread pretty soon. A couple of Rangers fans are having a hard time staying composed.
they are going crazy/Suzy Waldman.
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 03:02 PM oh and one more thing before another rag fans gets a devils thread locked.
17,625
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13,000 STH
=
4,625 tickets available for sale.
I'll give you 1000 of the STH as ranger fans and half the available tix.
thats a potential of 2812 Ranger fans there for the playoffs.
What percentage of that is the total?:naughty:
Darius Dangleaitis 04-08-2008, 03:02 PM The ki-bosh is going to be put on this thread pretty soon. A couple of Rangers fans are having a hard time staying composed.
I say we let this one go. It's contained in one thread like a virus (fitting that the Rangers have those new avatars).
It's a nice little warmup for the playoffs.
Jiri Bicek 04-08-2008, 03:02 PM You should send a Statue of some sort like the French did for NY to the city of Edmonton for 1994.
1994 = 100 cups.
Another asinine statement by a silly Rangers fan.
How are you going to take over the building? Are you going to be hijacking it?
This is going to be the attack that the media was talking about before the arena opened!
"The arena is too close to the street.. OmGzZ!" :scared:
The Rangers are coming... The Rangers are coming...
fortheloveof666 04-08-2008, 03:04 PM This is going to be the attack that the media was talking about before the arena opened!
"The arena is too close to the street.. OmGzZ!" :scared:
The Rangers are coming... The Rangers are coming...
DON'T LET THE TERRORISTS WIN
-George W. Bush
Lou's Koolaid 04-08-2008, 03:04 PM No I dont. 1994 was more incredable than any of your championships combined. And by the way, the only reason you have any banners is beause you happen to have the best goaltender in the world. Without him, you would have a whole lot of empty space on that ceiling. I just cant wait until we take over your precious building and chase you guys out of there. We might as well just hang all our banners in your building and the colisuem since we pretty much own them as well.
And yes, I am getting pissed off because it makes me go crazy that idiotic Devil fans actually believe that Ranger fans are "jealous" of thier franchise. By the way you people talk, its almost as if its the other way around.Your not jealous but you ***** about the Devils having Marty.:laugh:
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 03:07 PM Your not jealous but you ***** about the Devils having Marty.:laugh:
Nah there not jealous, that why they are hear talking about things like all the cups they won and how great there hockey team is.
Oh wait, they are just talking about attendence and Marty single handedly winning us 3 cups. :sarcasm:
Lou's Koolaid 04-08-2008, 03:07 PM Anybody get their tickets.?:sarcasm:
Reverend_Hellh0und 04-08-2008, 03:09 PM I publically ask the mods NOT to lock this thread and to just deal with the rangers fans and thier usual attendence trolling in a MSG ticket sale thread.
fortheloveof666 04-08-2008, 03:13 PM The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time.
- Friedrich Nietzsche
jkrdevil 04-08-2008, 03:14 PM And the only reason you have a single cup since there were SIX TEAMS is because you trade for half the ****ing Oilers. The only tradition the NYR have is being arrogant and ripping on successful franchises.
Not to be technical but the Rangers never won the cup in the Original Six era. Their 3 previous cups before 1994 came prior to what is considered Original Six era.
Although the Rangers do have a very rich history. Great players such as Red Kelly would give their right arm to try and become a NY Ranger. :sarcasm:
DevilsFan38 04-08-2008, 03:26 PM Glad to see everyone could have a nice and civil discussion without dragging the thread wildly off topic and having it turn into petty arguments and flaming :shakehead
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