playoff hopes

Lets be very realistic about the team we have. If the devils do anything in the playoffs it will be a surprise.

I hate to say this but i don't think they can beat the rangers in a series. I do think they can beat boston so sunday is a big game.

as far as this team:

totally lack talent and yet somehow we have a great chance for home ice in playoffs; sutter should be considered a coach of the year candidate. 11 shutouts is friggin amazing...........lou has a responsibility to broduer,the fans and the organization to go get some offense this off-season, being defensive is one thing but this team is beyond inept at putting pucks in the net.

Greene cannot play in playoffs

asham must be put on the rupp/zubrus line and clarkso to zajac line
both lines are more effective with this set up.

clarkson is completely overatted by devils fans; he is a a fourth liner and energy guy. asham at least possesses a skill level needed to compliment zubrus and rupp and clarkson compliments zajac and brylin

sutter switched them late in the game tonight but opted to break the line up last night after the line scored it's second goal, granted clarkson had a nice goal but it was more of lucky situation that he came late on the trail due to a late ch

agree that clarkson has been awful without Madden and Pando. Hes a good fit on that line, otherwise hes a fourth liner. Im still a fan of Zubrus-Zajac-Asham but I dont think well see rupp and zubes split up.

Clarkson has been awful since going to the Young Stars game. He is trying to be too fancy and not doing the stuff he needs to do.

Lets be very realistic about the team we have. If the devils do anything in the playoffs it will be a surprise.

I agree and have been saying this since October 1. I figured they'd finish about 6th seed, but the truth that Devils fans fear not speak is that if not for Brodeur, this team finishes in 10th - 11th this year.

Im worried big time about this please win on Sunday!:help:

I hate to say this but i don't think they can beat the rangers in a series. I do think they can beat boston so sunday is a big game.


I agree and it really, really pains me to say so as nobody despises the NYR more than me :madfire:

They are our worst possible playoff matchup and their trap makes our already pathetic offense even worse...as if such a thing is possible...and we are the only team in the NHL that cannot seem to ever solve the streaky Henrik Lundqvist.

There is no reason to believe that we can beat the NYR in a 7 game series and hopefully we can at least win 1 game and avoid a sweep.

I hope we don't get shutout more than twice too, but it is a real possibility.

Now for the good news:

The only saving grace I can think of is that the better NYR goalie will actually be sitting on the bench instead of playing in the game. ;)

Guaranteed first round loss, probably a sweep. How awful would it be to go 0-12 against that team and their trolly dingbat fans?

Let's face facts, this year is a rebuilding season. The Devs mgmt could not admit this fact because we opened a new building.
The roster is very weak overall, take Marty away and we do not even have a sniff at the playoffs.
We have some good players and play a good system on most nights, but our lack of talent has been exposed many a time this season.
They are not the most cerebreal (sp?) Devils team that we are used to seeing either. Many dumb mistakes and mental breakdowns in a lot of games.
I will be at every game from here on out supporting the team 100% as all of us should, but if you're a realist you see too many flaws on this team to do any damage in the postseason.

Lou needs to make more than a few shrewd moves this summer to give Marty a real chance at winning.

Let's face facts, this year is a rebuilding season. The Devs mgmt could not admit this fact because we opened a new building.
The roster is very weak overall, take Marty away and we do not even have a sniff at the playoffs.
We have some good players and play a good system on most nights, but our lack of talent has been exposed many a time this season.
They are not the most cerebreal (sp?) Devils team that we are used to seeing either. Many dumb mistakes and mental breakdowns in a lot of games.
I will be at every game from here on out supporting the team 100% as all of us should, but if you're a realist you see too many flaws on this team to do any damage in the postseason.

Lou needs to make more than a few shrewd moves this summer to give Marty a real chance at winning.

Amen brotha, lets just hope that Marty can take us as far as possible. Nothing is impossible with Marty in net. But you're right it's gonna be a real tough hill to climb.

Either way, I'm excited for the playoffs to start. It's like a 2 month Christmas to me.

I cant believe some of you people, its not like the Rangers blew us out in these games.
Sunday is huge.

I cant believe some of you people, its not like the Rangers blew us out in these games.
Sunday is huge.

I agree....I can understand people being a little wary of a first round match-up against a team that we may only beat once this year in 8 tries, depending on the Sunday outcome, but as mentioned above, we didn't get blown out in any of the games....

Fact is, the Devils and Rangers play a very similar style, and both rely on superior goaltending to win most of their games....Rangers might have a little more fire power, but I wouldn't say it's a distinct advantage....Both lack star power on defense too....To be honest, it's a pretty even match-up IMO....Wouldn't be surprised at all to see it go 7 games....

I'd much rather play Boston, which I'm sure is the way everyone is feeling, but I think we'd have a pretty good shot at taking out the Rangers, whether we have home ice advantage or not....

Well... my suggestion to you all is to prepare for the worst: going 0-12 against a hated rival.

Aim low, aim so low that no one will even care if you missed your target. This team sucks... every major game they had they managed to **** up and lose. Simple as that. When it's time to step up, these clowns step down and get blown out.

Parise, Clarkson, EVERYONE. No one has any heart... except for Marty. But the team as a whole? NONE!

From 1st in the conference to this garbage.

Some statistics on Devils
Last regulation win was March 15 @ Colorodo W 4-2. (9 Games passed )
Last regulation Home win was February 23 against Islanders W 4-2 ( 7 home games passed )
Our last 3 games we got shutout our PK was perfect. (Getting outscored 9-0)
Devils all year only lost 2 GAMES in regulation when scoring 3 goals. (Both 4-3 loses to @BOS and home against MTL and both were in January)
Devils haven't lost any games when scoring 4 or more goals.

EDIT:
Our 1st Win against Islanders was 4-2.
Our Last regulation win and last home regulation win was 4-2.
It will be funny if we win 4-2 against the Rangers in regulation.

you're all right... go grab a bottle of whiskey, run a hot bath, pop some sleeping pills, sharpen up the carving knife, throw on some Doors music and make a final evening of it come Wed....

This is the end....

"every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker..."

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I cant believe some of you people, its not like the Rangers blew us out in these games.
Sunday is huge.

Well, you know, we went out and lost this borderline pointless game because we played like it was a borderline pointless game and the coach yelled at them for playing like it was a borderline pointless game, and now... it's all over.

Back up the truck. We're getting swept. :handclap:

Fine, they played like rancid garbage, even I had to admit that in the GDT during the second. But, that's not my problem, that's Sutter's problem, get them ready to go for the next one and forget this one ever happened.

They're not that good, they try their ***** off most nights (the 3rd period tonight was not one of them), and if they lose, oh well. It's clear they need help, but after July was done there was no reasonable outlet for help.

But I don't have retarded expectations of what this team is.

Im worried big time about this please win on Sunday!:help:

I totally agree with you. They look like the 2004 team.

Some statistics on Devils
Last regulation win was March 15 @ Colorodo W 4-2. (9 Games passed )
Last regulation Home win was February 23 against Islanders W 4-2 ( 7 home games passed )
Our last 3 games we got shutout our PK was perfect. (Getting outscored 9-0)
Devils all year only lost 2 GAMES in regulation when scoring 3 goals. (Both 4-3 loses to @BOS and home against MTL and both were in January)
Devils haven't lost any games when scoring 4 or more goals.

EDIT:
Our 1st Win against Islanders was 4-2.
Our Last regulation win and last home regulation win was 4-2.
It will be funny if we win 4-2 against the Rangers in regulation.

More encouraging news from Mark Everson:

The Devils have failed to score more than one goal in regulation an incredible 31 times this season, (5-22-4), or more than two in regulation 44 times (12-27-5).

New Jersey is 1-3-1 in its last five road games, finishing 21-15-5 away from Newark this season. The Devils also have been outscored 15-2 in their last nine third periods, and stand only 8-8-2 since the trade deadline.

The loss also ended the Devils' run of 100-point seasons at four, and 9-of-10. It snapped New Jersey's six-game winning streak against the Flyers (6-2 season series), and was their first regulation loss in a road closer in seven seasons (5-1-1)

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052008/sports/devils/no_pride__105109.htm

The thing is, watching that team play last night. I can see a few things that I would have changed and turn it all around.

1. Forechecking : our forwards seemed to have forgotten to pressure last night except for some parts of the 2nd period. We dump the puck in but half heartedly went to chase. Change it up, carry the puck into the zone sometimes.

2. Changing lines : Our line changes are very sloppy and our players don't seem to be aware of whats happening on the ice. There were some plays where we could have had a huge advantage, but instead of staying out on the ice to make those plays, they turned around to go change lines.

3. Defensive clearing : The flyers showed exactly how to use the box last night, they expanded and contracted based on where our guys were. Our defense pretty much just stood there and waited, there was even one play where the puck went past 2 defensemen who just watched it go by them, without any effort to grab the puck, it went to the boards and a Flyer player got to it. That would have been a easy clear.

4. Front of the net : Our defense is too much in Marty's face. I understand playing the body and blocking shots, but stop screening Marty. Marty can't block what he can't see.

5. Rebounds off the glass : We've been relying too much on this, bouncing it off the glass is fine but when you miss, you take those stupid penalties for delay of game. We could have had some easy clears through the center of the ice. Opponents have adjusted to our play and leave the middle of the ice empty. Take advantage of it.

6. shot accuracy : We're missing the net again. I think maybe the team needs to practice accuracy every day to stay sharp. They had so many misses again last night.

7. Awareness : There were so many times last night where they just weren't aware of where the puck was. Passes went through the legs of the flyers who lost track of the puck but our guys didn't pick it up. Instead they kind of skated back to defense thinking it was turned over.

So many little things, but it made a huge difference in this game. If they can get their act together, I believe this team can actually make it into the finals.

Alright, i will never give up on this team. if marty gets hot (which he has been great all yr so) and the offense gets their heads out of their ass', then we can go far. however it is looking more and more like it has all year, EVERY MOMENT RELIES ON MB#30. if marty gives up 2 or three goals a game, this team could be screwed, like we have been seeing for awhile. we need a collective consistent effort in the playoffs, not this play when you want to and leave marty out to dry ****.

I still have faith in this team that we can get out of the first round and do some damage!

Alright, i will never give up on this team. if marty gets hot (which he has been great all yr so) and the offense gets their heads out of their ass', then we can go far. however it is looking more and more like it has all year, EVERY MOMENT RELIES ON MB#30. if marty gives up 2 or three goals a game, this team could be screwed, like we have been seeing for awhile. we need a collective consistent effort in the playoffs, not this play when you want to and leave marty out to dry ****.

I still have faith in this team that we can get out of the first round and do some damage!


atta boy! Thats the attitude us fans should have, the bulldog mentality! Never give up! If we fans give up, how can we expect our players not to give up? I'm behind them 100% of the way! lets make a showing of it. Even if we go out losing, lets go out with 110% effort!

Well, you know, we went out and lost this borderline pointless game because we played like it was a borderline pointless game and the coach yelled at them for playing like it was a borderline pointless game, and now... it's all over.

I dont know why you think securing a potential game 7 on home ice is "borderline pointless" frankly. The truth is that this particular game was not an aborition; this total lack of effort has reared its' ugly head every 5 or 6 games this year. It's a character issue. Sutter/Lou/someone needs to isolate the individuals that do not possess a hatred of losing, and eliminate them. I am confident Brodeur, Parise, Madden, Pando, Gionta, Asham, and Clarkson would run through walls rather than lose. The rest of the lot? My confidnence drops.

More encouraging news from Mark Everson:

The Devils have failed to score more than one goal in regulation an incredible 31 times this season, (5-22-4), or more than two in regulation 44 times (12-27-5).

New Jersey is 1-3-1 in its last five road games, finishing 21-15-5 away from Newark this season. The Devils also have been outscored 15-2 in their last nine third periods, and stand only 8-8-2 since the trade deadline.

The loss also ended the Devils' run of 100-point seasons at four, and 9-of-10. It snapped New Jersey's six-game winning streak against the Flyers (6-2 season series), and was their first regulation loss in a road closer in seven seasons (5-1-1)


Mark Everson molests collies.

I agree with the first post that Clarkson is very overrated by the fans. He doesn't pass, falls down all of the time, is slow and takes stupid penalties. He should be on the fourth line with Brylin and Asham. Some people have mentioned that with his play, he will force his way out of town and I agree.

A Zubrus-Rupp-Zajac line might be interesting since Zajac is a better player than Clarkson and should be getting more ice time than him, even though he's struggled.

Greene is a totally different player from last season and the playoffs. He looks really bad out there and lost a lot. I was a fan of his last season and for most of this season, but I wouldn't be sad to see him go in the offseason now.

Hopefully Salvador can freaking play so we can see:
Oduya-Martin
White-Mottau
Vishnevski-Salvador

They need to limit Mottau's ice time in the playoffs so he shouldn't be on the penalty kill because he'll be killed in front of the net.

I would be surprised if the Devil win two games of the first round and it might be a blessing, although it will hurt like heck losing to the Rangers. Hopefully, a first round loss will force Lou's hand. And it's just not the offense, outside of Martin, Oduya and White, our defensemen are a bunch of minor leaguers. We better hope that Corrente and Fraser are ready to make the jump. You can only add so many UFA's.

And it's just not the offense, outside of Martin, Oduya and White, our defensemen are a bunch of minor leaguers.

I would say that's a bit harsh. I think most of our D-men are NHL D-men, the problem is that besides White and Martin, they are all #6 or #7 NHL D-men.

EDIT: To be fair I'd throw BS up in there too, but he isnt playing.

atta boy! Thats the attitude us fans should have, the bulldog mentality! Never give up! If we fans give up, how can we expect our players not to give up? I'm behind them 100% of the way! lets make a showing of it. Even if we go out losing, lets go out with 110% effort!



Hell yea man, if this team shows us that they left it all out there no matter what the outcome, then what else as a fan can you ask for? we have seen what this team can do when everyone is doing their part. (anyone remember that little 9 game winning streak we had) our devils are an extremely difficult team to play on most nights just because of marty, but when things are running on all cylinders for the team as a whole we are damn good.

Here's to a great game tomorrow and some great playoff hockey!:cheers:

My hope for the playoffs is that the team goes on a 92-93 Canadiens type run where Marty plays out of his mind and the team inexplicable keeps winning.

Will that happen probably not but it's the playoffs you never know.

I don't get you guys.... AT ALL !!!

Look at the team we have.. did you expect us to contend for the Eastern conference title at the begining of the season ??? We are ahead of the Rangers, the Flyers, the Sens and 9 other teams !!! What's all this :cry: and :rant: all about.

The SC playoffs is a hole new season and teams that will do well are those who are gritty, have alot of leadership and good goaltending. Let's take a look at our situation...

Grit.... CHECK
Leadership.... CHECK
Goaltending... CHECK

The only achiles heal for the Devils right now is a lack of scoring. If that can be adressed by the coaching staff, then we're not in that bad of a shape. We need to forecheck and make the puck carrier think fast instead of letting him bring up the puck with about 4 seconds to think about his options.

P.S. What's all this crap about "If we didn't have Brodeur we'd be in 10th place"...that's complete HORSE **** !!! If the Caps didn't have Ovechkin or the Pens didn't have Malkin and Crosby or if the Canucks didn't have Luongo or.... ISN'T BRODEUR PART OF THE TEAM ?!?!?!

C'mon Devils fans... let's be more optimistic rather then being more like HABS FANS :sarcasm:

I have been optimistic. Problem is... when was the last time this season that the Devils stepped up and won a big game?

By Sunday, even the Rangers may be ahead of us...

I have been optimistic. Problem is... when was the last time this season that the Devils stepped up and won a big game?

By Sunday, even the Rangers may be ahead of us...

With all the help they got during the off-season, didn't you expect the Rags to finish ahead of us ??? And on top of that, we lost all 7 meetings against them and we're still ahead of them !!!

LET'S GO DEVILS !!!

I don't get you guys.... AT ALL !!!

Look at the team we have.. did you expect us to contend for the Eastern conference title at the begining of the season ??? We are ahead of the Rangers, the Flyers, the Sens and 9 other teams !!! What's all this :cry: and :rant: all about.

The SC playoffs is a hole new season and teams that will do well are those who are gritty, have alot of leadership and good goaltending. Let's take a look at our situation...

Grit.... CHECK
Leadership.... CHECK
Goaltending... CHECK

The only achiles heal for the Devils right now is a lack of scoring. If that can be adressed by the coaching staff, then we're not in that bad of a shape. We need to forecheck and make the puck carrier think fast instead of letting him bring up the puck with about 4 seconds to think about his options.

P.S. What's all this crap about "If we didn't have Brodeur we'd be in 10th place"...that's complete HORSE **** !!! If the Caps didn't have Ovechkin or the Pens didn't have Malkin and Crosby or if the Canucks didn't have Luongo or.... ISN'T BRODEUR PART OF THE TEAM ?!?!?!

C'mon Devils fans... let's be more optimistic rather then being more like HABS FANS :sarcasm:

I agree with you this season has gone beyond all of our expectations. I think some of the whining has to do with where this team was the beginning to march and where this team is now.

That said on your playoff checklist the only check the Devils have is goaltending. They don't have grit and get pushed of the puck to easily which has been the offensive problem this past month. They also hasn't had any real leadership since Stevens went down with a concussion midway through the 03-04 season (that includes the last half of that season with Niedermayer as captain).

That said anything can happen in the playoffs and hopefully the team will play better with the slate wiped clean. Maybe the breaks that went against them the lat 2 years will even out this year.

I still have hope for the playoffs. Go Devils!

I seriously think the Devils are gonna do better than most people think in here.

My hope for the playoffs is that the team goes on a 92-93 Canadiens type run where Marty plays out of his mind and the team inexplicable keeps winning.

Will that happen probably not but it's the playoffs you never know.

That's what I'm hoping too because its really our only realistic possibility of getting to the Cup finals.

Other than Marty, Zach, Patty, Langs and Gio have to carry the club offensively.

you're all right... go grab a bottle of whiskey, run a hot bath, pop some sleeping pills, sharpen up the carving knife, throw on some Doors music and make a final evening of it come Wed....

This is the end....

"every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker..."

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It's not the end, This is only the begining...

Grit.... CHECK

What grit? That's a total myth. We get pushed around too often. Asham stinks, Clarkson is young & overated, Rupp is horrible, Zajac is soft, Zubrus is inconsistent, Vishnevski doesn't hit enough and the only person who could fight is playing for the St. Louis Blues. :sarcasm:

Leadership.... CHECK

Leadership? What leadership? From who? One person becomes a leader for one or two games and then promptly disappears. Leadership is yet another big problem with this team, not to mention the Captaincy has been the kiss of death.

Other than Brodeur who is confined to his crease the entire game, this team has resembled a rudderless ship for a long time now.

Goaltending... CHECK


Hey, I finally found something to agree about. :handclap:

Unfortunately, Brodeur is the only semblance of consistency on this team and as we have seen for the last 2 postseasons in the post-lockout NHL, special teams have been the great deciding factor for playoff success and will most likely prove to be our achiles heel as our special teams are attrocious.

There is only so much Brodeur can do and I don't think it's enough.

I always have hope that the devils are going to do good in the playoffs. The one thing that might come back and bite them is the lack of offense. They need to score more goals, I htink marty is always going to be marty in net so that means that they should be ok in the defence department. (hopefully).
the team just needs to score some more goals, if they can do that then i think the might do better then people think.

Leadership? What leadership? From who? One person becomes a leader for one or two games and then promptly disappears. Leadership is yet another big problem with this team, not to mention the Captaincy has been the kiss of death.

Other than Brodeur who is confined to his crease the entire game, this team has resembled a rudderless ship for a long time now.

I guess your right Muttley. We have the 6th best point total in the entire NHL, so I guess all the credit goes to Marty... GIMME A BREAK.

If you think that Madden, Pandolfo, Brylin, Brodeur, Elias, Langenbrunner and White don't have enough leadership for the playoffs... then I guess you're more pessimist then I thought (were you ever positive :sarcasm:). Those guys know what it takes to win because they've been appart of SC winning teams.

Our offense scored a total of 203 goals for. Who manny did the Rangers score ???? 211 !!! They have Drury, Jagr, Gomez, Straka, Shanahan, Dubinsky... if a teams needs to worry about scoring more goals it's the Rangers. With the lack of fire power on our team it's pretty damn good if you ask me. We have 1 line and a half that can score goals, the rest is just a bonus.

I guess your right Muttley. We have the 6th best point total in the entire NHL, so I guess all the credit goes to Marty... GIMME A BREAK.

If you think that Madden, Pandolfo, Brylin, Brodeur, Elias, Langenbrunner and White don't have enough leadership for the playoffs... then I guess you're more pessimist then I thought (were you ever positive :sarcasm:). Those guys know what it takes to win because they've been appart of SC winning teams.

Our offense scored a total of 203 goals for. Who manny did the Rangers score ???? 211 !!! They have Drury, Jagr, Gomez, Straka, Shanahan, Dubinsky... if a teams needs to worry about scoring more goals it's the Rangers. With the lack of fire power on our team it's pretty damn good if you ask me. We have 1 line and a half that can score goals, the rest is just a bonus.

Again, the general problem is: The Devils can beat "lesser" teams easily. But the second they face a team which is more evenly matched, or its a big deciding game... they falter.

Again, the general problem is: The Devils can beat "lesser" teams easily. But the second they face a team which is more evenly matched, or its a big deciding game... they falter.

One of the main reason why is our "AHL" defence. It's a miracle that we've only allowed 195 goals this year with Brookbank, Mottau, Greene, Vishnevski and Rachunek at the back end. Fast teams will eat us alive because of that and that's the main problem.

Look were we are now with the roster we have. Imagine were we would be if players didn't bail on us every time they have the chance to go for the jackpot or play with there sister out West when they become UFA's.

If you think that Madden, Pandolfo, Brylin, Brodeur, Elias, Langenbrunner and White don't have enough leadership for the playoffs... then I guess you're more pessimist then I thought (were you ever positive :sarcasm:). Those guys know what it takes to win because they've been appart of SC winning teams.


You are confusing veteran presence with leadership. The two are not the same. The fact that they have faltered when it has come to big games this year shows a lack of leadership. I don't think this team has had that leadership necessary to go deep in the playoffs since Stevens went down in 04. The team wilted after he left the lineup that year. In '05 when Robinson was the coach he went on a bit of a tirade (for him anyways) about how the team doesn't have a leader. This has been a persistent problem for the team for years. Switching the C from Elias to Langenbrunner doesn't mean that all of a sudden the team has a leader.

As much as I think Langenbrunner is a great player, he hasnt really done much to make himself stand out as a Captain.
Madden has always been my choice for captain since Nieder left.
We may never see a leader like Stevens again, hell the NHL may never.

All I can say is you better hope Boston wins their game and we get a win in regulation. And even if we got the Bruins I'd be surprised if we got past them with our pathetic excuse for an offense and a burnt out Marty.

Just start Weekes tomorrow.

All I can say is you better hope Boston wins their game and we get a win in regulation. And even if we got the Bruins I'd be surprised if we got past them with our pathetic excuse for an offense and a burnt out Marty.

Just start Weekes tomorrow.
Marty is burnt out? Last time I checked he kept a 3-0 game from being 13-0 last night.
Enough with the burnt out nonsense, this isnt baseball, he doesnt play every day.

Madden has always been my choice for captain since Nieder left.


And mine as well. My guess is Lou had more to do with Langs being captain. I like JL and everything, but Lou clearly has a boner for him.

Marty is burnt out? Last time I checked he kept a 3-0 game from being 13-0 last night.
Enough with the burnt out nonsense, this isnt baseball, he doesnt play every day.


It is much mor psychologically taxing than baseball, but yeah, I dont see signs he's burnt out yet. I know Marty is a laid-back, relaxed, solid team guy; but after last night I dont know how he could keep himself from absolutely exploding on the entire team in the locker room.

One of our major problems is going down the stretch is that our team defense has gotten worse and our primary offensive players have been disappointing. Parise, Jamie, Elias and Gionta and Zajac's play hurt the team as well. And for all those Parise lover's and I'm one of them, he's not creating like he did last year. Even when he didn't score you always noticed him and he was our best clutch player, not lately. I hardly notice him unless it's in OT or the shootout. Funny, but the only time our offense looks any good is during 4 on 4 play. To bad they don't use 4 on 4 during playoff OT.

moving Zajac to the 4th line with an invisable Brylin and a horrid Asham is ruining the kids already fragile confidence. He has had a rough year but the kid has some talent.

Roll call tomorrow? 209 for me

I guess your right Muttley. We have the 6th best point total in the entire NHL, so I guess all the credit goes to Marty... GIMME A BREAK.

If you think that Madden, Pandolfo, Brylin, Brodeur, Elias, Langenbrunner and White don't have enough leadership for the playoffs... then I guess you're more pessimist then I thought (were you ever positive :sarcasm:). Those guys know what it takes to win because they've been appart of SC winning teams.

Our offense scored a total of 203 goals for. Who manny did the Rangers score ???? 211 !!! They have Drury, Jagr, Gomez, Straka, Shanahan, Dubinsky... if a teams needs to worry about scoring more goals it's the Rangers. With the lack of fire power on our team it's pretty damn good if you ask me. We have 1 line and a half that can score goals, the rest is just a bonus.

I thought last night's game was proof it wasn't all Marty, because you saw what it looks like when he *really* gets abandoned.

moving Zajac to the 4th line with an invisable Brylin and a horrid Asham is ruining the kids already fragile confidence. He has had a rough year but the kid has some talent.

Roll call tomorrow? 209 for me

I think I'm getting there around 9 or 10 am for cheap tix.. Last game the people that got there at 1 were the last to receive tickets

moving Zajac to the 4th line with an invisable Brylin and a horrid Asham is ruining the kids already fragile confidence. He has had a rough year but the kid has some talent.

Roll call tomorrow? 209 for me

He hamstrung the offense when he was on the top two lines. Unfotunately, he's gonna have to work the kinks out in the summer.

I just saw the golden Gophers lose to the denver pioneers today. But they played their hearts out. If our team had that kind of effort I will be happy as a fan if they lose. Those college kids came out hard and penetrated the denver zone playing like they wanted to win. Thats what I want to see from the Devils. Hope they come out hard against the Rangers.

He hamstrung the offense when he was on the top two lines. Unfotunately, he's gonna have to work the kinks out in the summer.

He needs to hit the weight room, work on skating and his release, which is to slow for the NHL.

He needs to hit the weight room, work on skating and his release, which is to slow for the NHL.

Amen. I've been saying that all along. Especially the fact that he needs to hit the gym. He still has a college body.

i am always gonna be with the devils til the end and support them but honestly i just dont see them getting outta the first round. they cant score which is obviously the biggest problem and the defense is just horrendous which is the other problem. in retrospect, the only thing they have going for them at this point is marty. and imo he wont be enough b/c there is only so much he can do. all the rangers are gonna have to do is score 2 goals AT THE MOST and they have will prolly win. that being said sutters lines are horrible b/c they dont get the best out of the offensive talent that the devils have but the biggest problem is the system which obviously isnt gonna change. but with the devils team i have seen, marty is the whole team and i could easily see the rangers taking it in 5 maybe 6 at the most (i could even see them doing what the devils did in 06). i hope i am wrong and the playoffs bring out the best in them but i just dont know :help:

its going to a good tight series. A lot of the games have been close this year and a few of the nyr wins were straight luck. I would have rather seen this matych up in round 2, but then again, I don't want to play any of the top 3 teams, or ottawa.
Time to get drunk and watch them games!

Time to get drunk and watch them games!
You said it.