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Hockey Duckie 03-28-2008, 04:23 PM http://cdn.nhl.com/images/minibanner/SJS.gif vs http://cdn.nhl.com/images/minibanner/ANA.gif
March 28, 2008 @ 7:00 PM (Pacific Time)
Television: Fox Sports Prime Ticket
Radio: 1150 AM
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Honda Center Anaheim, Ca
Current home of the...
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Team Comparison
|San Jose (http://sharks.nhl.com/)|Anaheim (http://ducks.nhl.com/)
Record: |46-21-10 (102 PTS) | 44-26-8 (96 PTS)
Conference: | 2nd | 4th
Division: | 1st |2nd
Home: | 20-13-6 |26-8-4
Away: | 26-8-4 |18-18-4
L10: |8 – 0 – 2 |6 – 3 – 1
Season Series
Date | Winner | Score
Nov.9 |http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |3-2
Nov.17 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |2-1
Dec.16 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/sjs25.gif |2-1
Dec.18 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |2-0
Dec.22 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |5-2
Jan. 13 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |4-3
Mar.21 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/sjs25.gif |2-1
Previews of the Day
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Now the question is whether Carlyle will go back to Giguere in goal or
stick with hot rookie Jonas Hiller, who has given up two goals or fewer
in his last five starts. As usual,
it's not known since Carlyle never announces who will start the next game.
- LATimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-duckrep28mar28,1,2110098.story)
"Now we're in a position to improve for home-ice advantage,"
said Ducks coach Randy Carlyle,
whose team will play three of its remaining four games at the Honda Center.
"We just want to get our game to the level where we feel
we can be competitive against the best teams."
- NHL.com Preview (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Preview&gameNumber=1169&season=20072008&gameType=2)
Twindad 03-28-2008, 04:44 PM If they win they clinch the division, I think they will anyway but hopefully against someone else.
Tango DOs 03-28-2008, 05:05 PM The Sharks away record is exactly the same as the Ducks home record. (Both leading the league i believe?) Something has to give.
Chairman Mallard 03-28-2008, 05:30 PM Good luck tonight guys.
Here's to a close, clean game between two titans of the league.
Hollander 03-28-2008, 05:39 PM Good luck tonight guys.
Here's to a close, clean game between two titans of the league.
Hmm, not too close I hope. Go Ducks! Make me go home happy tonight! :handclap:
Who all is going to the game? I'll be in section 420 (as always).
kducks 03-28-2008, 06:37 PM I'm at home for this, but I'll be there Sunday. Go Ducks!
Michael Scofield 03-28-2008, 07:05 PM im there tonight, should be a great atmosphere like Wednesday.
kducks 03-28-2008, 07:25 PM Caught this on the OCRegister online right now about Getz and Jiggy.
Ducks goalie Jean-Sebastien Giguere went through a full practice Thursday and pronounced himself ready to return to action after back spasms kept him out of the past three games.
"I'm ready to play," Giguere said.
Carlyle, who typically guards the identity of his starting goalie as if it were Fort Knox, did not say whether he will go back to Giguere or stick with the hot hand of rookie Jonas Hiller, who has stopped 102 of 106 shots while filling in for Giguere.
"We'll go with the guy who we think will give us the best chance to win," Carlyle said.
Giguere has stopped 115 of 121 shots while going unbeaten in his past four starts.
Top-line center Ryan Getzlaf, meanwhile, practiced Thursday and is questionable. Getzlaf, who has missed the past two games because of a strained shoulder, will be re-evaluated Friday morning.
ktulu98 03-28-2008, 07:58 PM GL ducks
Spiral 03-28-2008, 09:59 PM Wish I could go for this... Go Ducks!
Spankatola Jamnuts 03-28-2008, 10:28 PM Blabbedy blabbedy I want pizza.
HellasLEAF 03-28-2008, 10:51 PM an article suggested it would be Hiller again even though Giggy proclaimed himself fit to play. any insight on who will start?
Kurri17 03-28-2008, 11:00 PM I live in Philly now. Is this not on Center Ice for anyone else?
This is like the fifth time this season I have been screwed out of watching the Ducks!
torero 03-28-2008, 11:06 PM Yahoo is giving Hiller as goalie.
Duckstudd269 03-28-2008, 11:13 PM looks like both back up goalies are in.
Spankatola Jamnuts 03-28-2008, 11:20 PM God I hate watching San Jose trap. Such a blah team.
Static 03-28-2008, 11:21 PM No Getzlaf or Perry + San Jose sitting in the neutral zone doesnt bode well.
Static 03-28-2008, 11:22 PM Hiller lets in a soft one. ****ing lame.
Spankatola Jamnuts 03-28-2008, 11:23 PM Hey, there's the Hiller I remember.
Hockey Duckie 03-28-2008, 11:23 PM Ya know... Hiller is beginning to resemble Bryz such that the act of letting easy shots go into the net. = (
Ducks down by one.
Static 03-28-2008, 11:27 PM That should be high sticking and boarding.
Edit: he didnt hit him hard against the boards.
Static 03-28-2008, 11:29 PM Nieds, well done.
Fighter 03-28-2008, 11:30 PM 1-1 :handclap:
Hockey Duckie 03-28-2008, 11:32 PM Wow! A PP goal by the CANNON shot of Scotty! Game tied.
Credit Ryan for gaining the puck when it was loose, protecting it, and passing it back to the point to Scotty. Which, eventually, lead to the goal.
karacter 03-28-2008, 11:32 PM nice play by ryan keeping it in, good screen, nice job getting through. nice plays all around to get that goal.
Duckstudd269 03-28-2008, 11:33 PM Was Bobby Ryan centering that powerplay unit. Forwards on the ice during the time of the goal were Ryan, Kunitz, and Selanne. Was that the forward line, or was it just in the middle of a change?
karacter 03-28-2008, 11:36 PM Was Bobby Ryan centering that powerplay unit. Forwards on the ice during the time of the goal were Ryan, Kunitz, and Selanne. Was that the forward line, or was it just in the middle of a change?
i think teemu took the draw, then koonie went to the front of net, and ryan/selanne to the half walls.
Static 03-28-2008, 11:36 PM Was Bobby Ryan centering that powerplay unit. Forwards on the ice during the time of the goal were Ryan, Kunitz, and Selanne. Was that the forward line, or was it just in the middle of a change?
Selanne takes the draw, Kunitz screens the goalie. Ryan was just another winger, not the center.
Hockey Duckie 03-28-2008, 11:36 PM YaY! Another PP. Bert gets held up as his poke check worked and the puck fluttered past the Sharks' d-man. I suppose it was a good penalty because it would have led to an odd man rush for the ducks.
McDonald19 03-28-2008, 11:37 PM Did Soto just call Anaheim the "quacks"?
:shakehead
snarktacular 03-28-2008, 11:38 PM Wow! A PP goal by the CANNON shot of Scotty! Game tied.
Credit Ryan for gaining the puck when it was loose, protecting it, and passing it back to the point to Scotty. Which, eventually, lead to the goal.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5927/wantedniedscannonsv4.jpg
Static 03-28-2008, 11:39 PM Did Soto just call Anaheim the "quacks"?
:shakehead
But have you seen her ass?
Hockey Duckie 03-28-2008, 11:44 PM Damn! The net was empty for Robbie to dump the puck into the net by an awesome feed from his brother, but he whiffed. I guess he can only score when the net is empty and no goalie on the ice. = (
snarktacular 03-28-2008, 11:44 PM But have you seen her ass?
Not enough of it to be worth her sucking.
Spankatola Jamnuts 03-28-2008, 11:44 PM But have you seen her ass?
I think she was using it to talk.
I take issue with Ahlers' characterization of any Sharks game as "enteraining".
Ducksforcup 03-28-2008, 11:45 PM Good period for the Duckies. They battled hard. :)
karacter 03-28-2008, 11:46 PM Damn! The net was empty for Robbie to dump the puck into the net by an awesome feed from his brother, but he whiffed. I guess he can only score when the net is empty and no goalie on the ice. = (
ya, but c'mon the goalie was on the ice, so it technically wouldn't be an "empty net" goal.
Hockey Duckie 03-28-2008, 11:49 PM But have you seen her ass?
Actually, it's not that. She's hiding what she's been endowed with from genetics b/c for someone so petite it's rare to possess such assets. :: ahem :: Notice how her blouses/tops look big on her or fluffy layer stuff. LoL
Not that I pay attention to her, it's the hockey I watch. Kinda like I don't pay attention to the waitresses at Hooters, it's the beer and wings I want. :D
Ducksforcup 03-28-2008, 11:51 PM The Phoenix and San Jose games scared me, but they have shown me a lot lately. The Ducks are playing hard and hitting...:)
snarktacular 03-28-2008, 11:53 PM Actually, it's not that. She's hiding what she's been endowed with from genetics b/c for someone so petite it's rare to possess such assets. :: ahem :: Notice how her blouses/tops look big on her or fluffy layer stuff. LoL
Not that I pay attention to her, it's the hockey I watch. Kinda like I don't pay attention to the waitresses at Hooters, it's the beer and wings I want. :D
She's beautiful, she's rich, she's got HUUUGE..... tracts of land.
Spankatola Jamnuts 03-28-2008, 11:55 PM She's beautiful, she's rich, she's got HUUUGE..... tracts of land.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z55/daynperry/carolynhughes_010.jpg
Yeah.
But I still wish she'd shut up.
Hockey Duckie 03-28-2008, 11:57 PM Good period for the Duckies. They battled hard. :)
Ohhhh but there's plenty of room for improvement save the Shutdown Line. Beauch and Schneider were lethargic with the puck. With the latter giving the Sharks their goal. The Sharks are able to cherry pick the puck from the Ducks with ease. Which is why I pointed out what Ryan did on the PP because none of the other Duck forwards could gain full control of the puck.
After watching the game thereafter, Ryan's feat really looks impressive.
Pronger is missed in this game b/c outside from O'Donnell, no one else is making the Shark forwards pay for coming down behind the net.
Static 03-28-2008, 11:58 PM They arent real, come on.
lijay55 03-29-2008, 12:01 AM i just got home...what did i miss:|? how are the guys looking without getz/perry/prongs on the ice against the sharks?
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:02 AM Actually, it's not that. She's hiding what she's been endowed with from genetics b/c for someone so petite it's rare to possess such assets. :: ahem :: Notice how her blouses/tops look big on her or fluffy layer stuff. LoL
Not that I pay attention to her, it's the hockey I watch. Kinda like I don't pay attention to the waitresses at Hooters, it's the beer and wings I want. :D
There's this game somewhere on the web called ass, rack, or meat. It shows close up pictures and you have to guess if it's a picture of an ass, a rack, or some raw meat. Amazingly not as easy as it sounds.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 12:03 AM She's beautiful, she's rich, she's got HUUUGE..... tracts of land.
I was trying to be innovative about being evasive to the obvious, but yeah... that sums it up.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z55/daynperry/carolynhughes_010.jpg
Again, notice that her shirt does not hug her to her body.
(Yes, just an excuse at showing her pic again. :thumbu: )
And thanks for a new idea for an avatar!
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:05 AM Hee hee. I'm watching the SJ feed. Remenda just said, "Ron Wilson, I know he's been criticized in the chat rooms, but he's a phenomenal coach."
Cue the "another Ron Wilson DUR decision" animated gif from the Sharks board.
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:08 AM They arent real, come on.
You can have fake tracts of land?
kducks 03-29-2008, 12:09 AM Ducks on the PK, good to see you guys focusing on the game. :biglaugh:
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:11 AM OK the PP's over, you can clear the puck any time now.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 12:13 AM On that PK, the small things that Giguere does that many other goalies can't do... suck up the puck once it hits him. He's able to ice the puck and get new PK'ers onto the ice.
Ohhh and what caused the opportunity to be on the PK? The inability to control the rebound. (See above for solution.)
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 12:14 AM After a good first period, an OK start to the 2nd.
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:14 AM Ducks on the PK, good to see you guys focusing on the game. :biglaugh:
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kducks 03-29-2008, 12:16 AM http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8650/wantedparrosmotorboatinqm8.gif
Don't tease me obobo :naughty:
Fighter 03-29-2008, 12:17 AM http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z55/daynperry/carolynhughes_010.jpg
I'd do her. :naughty:
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 12:17 AM http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z55/daynperry/carolynhughes_010.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8650/wantedparrosmotorboatinqm8.gif
OMG! You just didn't imply... :: ahem :: :amazed: ahhahahah
Static 03-29-2008, 12:19 AM what a penalty.....and you guessed it, Joe Pavelski draws the call.
kducks 03-29-2008, 12:19 AM BS call
Static 03-29-2008, 12:20 AM Hiller has bad rebound control tonight.
kducks 03-29-2008, 12:20 AM Well that's just great, thanks Refs!
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:21 AM Well at least we don't have to kill of a 5 on 3...
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 12:22 AM On that PK, the small things that Giguere does that many other goalies can't do... suck up the puck once it hits him. He's able to ice the puck and get new PK'ers onto the ice.
Ohhh and what caused the opportunity to be on the PK? The inability to control the rebound. (See above for solution.)
Hiller has bad rebound control tonight.
And the inability to suck it in leads to a Sharks PP goal. I hate when I foreshadow events! Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Static 03-29-2008, 12:22 AM I like how Campbell almost fell when Pahlsson hit him with one hand on his stick. Please.
McDonald19 03-29-2008, 12:23 AM Bergeron with a great hip check.
kducks 03-29-2008, 12:23 AM Nice Berg!
Fighter 03-29-2008, 12:24 AM Great hip-check.
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 12:25 AM What a joke of a call on Weight. And of-course guess who, Joe Pavelski was on the ice...
And ha Mitchell was owned by Bergeron. :yo:
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 12:26 AM Bergeron with a great hip check.
On the replay, it seems as though Mitchell jumped over MAB. But the ensuing plays, MAB was treated like a rag doll. Get rid of the puck faster MAB!
kducks 03-29-2008, 12:26 AM Blonde alert
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 12:27 AM Hiller hasn't looked good at all with his rebound control. But he has played so well lately, that I am going to let it slide.
Fighter 03-29-2008, 12:28 AM It looked like the hit made by Bergeron on Morrow years ago. That was way better btw.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 12:28 AM That's two empty nets (with goalie on ice) that Robbie's missed!
And good assessment and report by Soto, but sounds so slurred and lethargic. Is it just me?
Furious George 03-29-2008, 12:29 AM In the last two games versus the Sharks I've seen the Ducks going offside quite a lot, is this something that has been a problem for the Ducks? Small sample size? Something the Sharks are causing the Ducks to do?
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 12:30 AM Joe Pavelski really pisses me off. The guy's main mission seemingly is to draw penalties.
Jokester.
Static 03-29-2008, 12:31 AM If this is a goal I think Hiller will be pulled.
McDonald19 03-29-2008, 12:32 AM Shelley slashed Kunitz to start all that...
Shelley wants nothing to do with Parros.
Static 03-29-2008, 12:32 AM Man that is lame. The guy just pushed the whole goalie in.
Fighter 03-29-2008, 12:33 AM That was spearing, not a goal.
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:34 AM In the last two games versus the Sharks I've seen the Ducks going offside quite a lot, is this something that has been a problem for the Ducks? Small sample size? Something the Sharks are causing the Ducks to do?
Bertuzzi = offsides.
Bye bye division (not like we were going to win anyways).
"He was pitchforked into the net!!!!" MBT!
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 12:35 AM Ha, Hiller was literally pushed into the net.
Blah.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 12:35 AM Ducks are being spectators in consistent intervals.
Hey... Marleau gave Huskins a shot to his back after he was called for the hooking penalty and nothing extra?
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 12:36 AM A game where both teams use their timeouts? Whoa.
bigwillie 03-29-2008, 12:36 AM Man that is lame. The guy just pushed the whole goalie in.
Yeah, as a goaltender, I do not like that goal one bit.
Static 03-29-2008, 12:38 AM Yeah, as a goaltender, I do not like that goal one bit.
Well he didnt cover it I guess, a theme for him tonight.
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 12:39 AM Man, I wanted this win in the worst way, but realistically I knew it wasn't likely.
Go Ducks in the third though! :)
Jerky Leclerc 03-29-2008, 12:40 AM Man that is lame. The guy just pushed the whole goalie in.
Yeah but how many times did the Ducks do the same thing last year. lol
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 12:42 AM Yeah but how many times did the Ducks do the same thing last year. lol
Yah, that is true lol. I specifically remember during the post-season when the checking line pushed Luongo into the net and then scored...
Man, those days seem so far off don't they. :biglaugh:
McDonald19 03-29-2008, 12:48 AM Is it just me or did Ahlers screw up the hockey 101 question?
He said NHL teams retain the rights of drafted players from Europe for as long as they play in Europe.
With the new CBA prospects from Europe have to be signed within 2 years just like Canadian Junior prospects.
kducks 03-29-2008, 12:49 AM Wow can we get more of a up close shot of the locker room with the guys with their shirts off? Sorry guys, you get to check out the blonde up close, I just want the same.
Fighter 03-29-2008, 12:49 AM Man, those days seem so far off don't they. :biglaugh:
When Perry, Getzlaf and Pronger come back, we'll be just fine.
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:02 AM Another future HOF goalie beating the Ducks :sarcasm:
McDonald19 03-29-2008, 01:02 AM Sharks neutral zone trap is putting me to sleep.
:boredom:
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:04 AM Ugh Scotty hits the post!
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 01:06 AM Ahlers screamed,"Ohhhh...Beauchemin just missed the net!" ahem... by a lot!
King Beauch... still wanted for his extreme accuracy.
jax00 03-29-2008, 01:06 AM http://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/1674.gif
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:07 AM Ahlers screamed,"Ohhhh...Beauchemin just missed the net!" ahem... by a lot!
King Beauch... still wanted for his extreme accuracy.
High and wide baby, high and wide
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 01:09 AM Wow can we get more of a up close shot of the locker room with the guys with their shirts off? Sorry guys, you get to check out the blonde up close, I just want the same.
But we don't get to see her with her shirt off... And besides, Nubla > Soto.
At least this period is going by fast (no whistles), boring though it may be.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 01:12 AM Bobby Ryan... the "Power" Forward! Two great hits that actually connected in one shift. He didn't fall! He didn't fall!
Ducks are coming out and hitting. I don't like the score, but I like the play from the 10 min mark on. Too bad they couldn't do this at the beginning of the third period.
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 01:12 AM Who the hell gave it away there, was that Huskins?
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:12 AM But we don't get to see her with her shirt off... And besides, Nubla > Soto.
At least this period is going by fast (no whistles), boring though it may be.
Yeah but when I get to see the guys up close, they have their pads on and stuff. Just want the locker room camera to have a little more zoom on it. ;)
Fighter 03-29-2008, 01:12 AM Brainfart by Huskins nearly costed us a goal.
jax00 03-29-2008, 01:13 AM Get ready for the wave of SJ fans after we lose.
"ZoMG! WeE BeETz DUx!"
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 01:15 AM Get ready for the wave of SJ fans after we lose.
"ZoMG! WeE BeETz DUx!"
Look at the bright side. At least we got SOG in each period.
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:15 AM Get ready for the wave of SJ fans after we lose.
"ZoMG! WeE BeETz DUx!"
"We are the bestest team, the refs think so"
hockeydemon05 03-29-2008, 01:17 AM "Get ready for the "tough" Shelly to go after Kuntiz, watch out!!111!!!!"
lol
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 01:18 AM Even Selanne has decided to be one of the bash brothers in the latter of the 3rd period.
Whoa! Did you guys just see Ryan skate through all of the sharks from one end to the other and got a great scoring chance as well?! I'm feeling better about him game after game. He could be a monster next year! (like Perry and Getz came out this year)
karacter 03-29-2008, 01:19 AM did anyone see ryan's one shift!?! Knocked over Semenov then i tink erhoff in the corner as well all on the same shift! Good physical shift by him.
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 01:21 AM Nice defensive read by Beauchemin to intercept that pass. Haven't seen as much of that from him this year.
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:21 AM "Get ready for the "tough" Shelly to go after Kuntiz, watch out!!111!!!!"
lol
Yep the Sharks really look like they are out for blood huh? Whatever, give them the division so they can brag about it after they lose in the first round.
jax00 03-29-2008, 01:23 AM Yep the Sharks really look like they are out for blood huh? Whatever, give them the division so they can brag about it after they lose in the first round.
Hey! have some respect! They will lose in the second round!
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:24 AM Hey! have some respect! They will lose in the second round!
Sorry I forgot.
hockeydemon05 03-29-2008, 01:30 AM Oh well, San Jose wins the division.
I lol at Thornton's stick work on Beauchemin after the game ends. So much for "we're going to be tough tonight" -SJ fans.
Bobby Ryan had some nifty moves skating in and around San Jose players in the third, it's something special for sure. MAB looked like Huskins skating the puck up a few times.
We just need to get our effing offense together. And what is wrong with Schneider? He looks pretty bad to me.
jax00 03-29-2008, 01:31 AM One of Beauchemin's worst games. Same for R. Nieds.
jax00 03-29-2008, 01:32 AM I wanna drop to the 7th seed so we can take out the Sharks.
hockeydemon05 03-29-2008, 01:33 AM I wanna drop to the 7th seed so we can take out the Sharks.
But I really want to play Calgary. That would be a great set of games as usual. Maybe we're getting ahead of our selves though?
I wanna drop to the 7th seed so we can take out the Sharks.
That's such a crazy idea, it might just work.
190Octane 03-29-2008, 01:34 AM Just remember sharks fans, Stanley cups are won in March.
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:34 AM I wanna drop to the 7th seed so we can take out the Sharks.
Nah we need home ice and Turco is already in meltdown mode.
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 01:38 AM I expected a loss, but it is still tough to lose.
Whatevs. On to the next game. :)
kducks 03-29-2008, 01:39 AM Off to do laundry, fun! Night all.
Rickety Cricket 03-29-2008, 01:40 AM Good game, good luck(but not too much) in the playoffs
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 01:42 AM did anyone see ryan's one shift!?! Knocked over Semenov then i tink erhoff in the corner as well all on the same shift! Good physical shift by him.
Yeah. I posted about him being an actual power forward because of that shift. He's getting better and better every game we see him. Maybe all of these injuries may be a blessing in disguise because we're getting glimpses of both Ryan and MAB when forced to become more than accessories to this team.
I want to see Ryan get more ice time to get more confidence going into the post season. Some one needs to replace the scoring the Ducks lost with Perry out until the 2nd round (hoping we can get to the 2nd round).
Assessment of this game: The Shutdown line and 10min mark in the third period till the end of them game were awesome. Ryan is slowly creeping into becoming a top 6 forward. Everything else... bleah. Seemed like an off-night for the rest of the ducks, including Scotty.
Assessment of this game without 1) Conn Smythe Goalie 2) leading goal scorer 3) all-star Center and 4) all-star defenseman: not bad. it could have been worse. The goals given up: 1 soft goal (bad goalie!), 1 pushed into the net goalie (bad ref!), and a PP goal (bad ref... unlucky call for the ducks and Weight).
Heh... if I were SJ, I'd be happy with the win, but not happy about they won the game against at team missing some key components. They were getting p'owned physically!
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 01:42 AM Good game, good luck(but not too much) in the playoffs
Yep, yep it was. I REALLY want to play the Sharks with a full team, but alas. Whatevs, good game tonight. :)
Good luck (but not too much ;)).
Wild GM 03-29-2008, 01:43 AM Take out the Wings in rd 2. Good luck in the real season :)
BCShark 03-29-2008, 01:44 AM good game tonight fellas
Rickety Cricket 03-29-2008, 01:45 AM Yep, yep it was. I REALLY want to play the Sharks with a full team, but alas. Whatevs, good game tonight. :)
Good luck (but not too much ;)).
Yea both teams were missing some key parts
Rotten 03-29-2008, 01:45 AM Once again another horrible game by Bertuzzi. Captain Turnover. Bert can't keep the puck on his stick over 5 seconds and consistently loses battles for loose pucks. He's been downright AWFUL this season. Why Carlyle continues to play him during important stretches of the game is beyond me. Worst acquisition by Burke so far.
thrillhous 03-29-2008, 01:46 AM The 3 stars are a complete joke. What game were they watching?
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 01:47 AM Once again another horrible game by Bertuzzi. Captain Turnover. Bert can't keep the puck on his stick over 5 seconds and consistently loses battles for loose pucks. He's been downright AWFUL this season. Why Carlyle continues to play him during important stretches of the game is beyond me. Worst acquisition by Burke so far.
The simple answer is that there is no one else.
Yep, I know that answer is pretty scary (it is to me too), but there really isn't anybody else. I thought Bertuzzi had a great game VS the Kings, but he had a rough game tonight.
bigwillie 03-29-2008, 01:49 AM Yep, yep it was. I REALLY want to play the Sharks with a full team, but alas. Whatevs, good game tonight. :)
Good luck (but not too much ;)).
These two teams, if fully healthy and playing their best, are going to have one hell of a series. Maybe one of the best of the past 20+ years.
Best of luck in the playoffs. I'm looking forward to the inevitable Sharks/Ducks WCF. :cheers:
Rotten 03-29-2008, 01:50 AM The 3 stars are a complete joke. What game were they watching?
LOL. No doubt about it. I'm looking at the 3 star selection online right now:
1. S. Niedermayer
2. T. Moen
3. B. Boucher
BRUTAL! A player on the winning team should get the #1 star. Niedermayer had a nice game - I'd give him #2. MOEN? wtf?
sjsharky 03-29-2008, 01:51 AM LOL. No doubt about it. I'm looking at the 3 star selection online right now:
1. S. Niedermayer
2. T. Moen
3. B. Boucher
BRUTAL! A player on the winning team should get the #1 star. Niedermayer had a nice game - I'd give him #2. MOEN? wtf?
maybe they are mad because the sharks screwed up the 3 stars last time you played us at home
McDonald19 03-29-2008, 01:54 AM The 3 star home bias happens around the league.
Rotten 03-29-2008, 01:56 AM The simple answer is that there is no one else.
Yep, I know that answer is pretty scary (it is to me too), but there really isn't anybody else. I thought Bertuzzi had a great game VS the Kings, but he had a rough game tonight.
I agree that there was very limited depth in the lineup tonight due to injures, but RC has to send Bert a message at some point. Even when Anaheim had a healthy roster, RC was sending Bert out continually despite his horrific play. Yes, you can name a handful of games Bert played OK in, but that's about it. He deserves less than the league minimum in salary.
some_chick 03-29-2008, 01:57 AM As a fellow Sharks fan, I want to first say, this was a good game and in no way undermines what the Ducks are capable of.
Second, I want to commend the Sharks fans that are coming into this thread and showing alot of class.
Both teams were w/out key players, but I look forward to seeing both of these teams playing each other with all of their weapons.
Good luck to the Ducks the rest of the way... except the WCF ;)
dburdick 03-29-2008, 02:02 AM Assessment of this game without 1) Conn Smythe Goalie 2) leading goal scorer 3) all-star Center and 4) all-star defenseman: not bad. it could have been worse. The goals given up: 1 soft goal (bad goalie!), 1 pushed into the net goalie (bad ref!), and a PP goal (bad ref... unlucky call for the ducks and Weight).
Heh... if I were SJ, I'd be happy with the win, but not happy about they won the game against at team missing some key components. They were getting p'owned physically!
Playing against the Sharks :
1)Backup Goalie(Boucher)
2)Without its leading goal scorer(Cheecho)
3)Without its best defensive D-man (Rivet)
4) In the Ducks barn on the second nite of a back-to-back
5)With the Ducks 10-game home winning streak on the line
6) Following an embarrassing performance by the Ducks in San Jose
But hey, even though the Ducks lost, they gained a significant moral victory by out-hitting the Sharks 32-22.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 02:02 AM Once again another horrible game by Bertuzzi. Captain Turnover. Bert can't keep the puck on his stick over 5 seconds and consistently loses battles for loose pucks. He's been downright AWFUL this season. Why Carlyle continues to play him during important stretches of the game is beyond me. Worst acquisition by Burke so far.
What are you talking about? He's a bull on the offensive end when on the cycle. He goes to the front of the net knowing he's gonna get hit. And he's 5th in scoring for this team. Also, he's scored more points right now this season than SJ's Cheechoo, Sergei Fedorov, and tied with Minn's Mikko Koivu! :yo:
Worst acquisition by Burkie by far is the deluge of jealous fans and media. Hey, I would be too if he takes a weak franchise and builds it into a Stanley Cup Champion in a couple of years. So I appreciate Burkie's effort in finally bringing the Cup to California.
Here's an analogy to Vancouver letting Burkie go... from tonight's game play-by-play host, Ahlers, "So why would you trade away a Joe Thornton?"
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 02:04 AM Playing against the Sharks :
1)Backup Goalie(Boucher)
2)Without its leading goal scorer(Cheecho)
3)Without its best defensive D-man (Rivet)
4) In the Ducks barn on the second nite of a back-to-back
5)With the Ducks 10-game home winning streak on the line
6) Following an embarrassing performance by the Ducks in San Jose
But hey, even though the Ducks lost, they gained a significant moral victory by out-hitting the Sharks 32-22.
Yes, the Sharks have injuries as well, but this team's offensive depth is so limited that even one injury hurts them significantly. Especially the loss of our top two scorers. San Jose has much more depth offensively and can absorb Cheechoo's loss more easily. I'll give you Rivet, as he is a good defensemen.
Rotten 03-29-2008, 02:10 AM What are you talking about? He's a bull on the offensive end when on the cycle. He goes to the front of the net knowing he's gonna get hit. And he's 5th in scoring for this team. Also, he's scored more points right now this season than SJ's Cheechoo, Sergei Fedorov, and tied with Minn's Mikko Koivu! :yo:
Worst acquisition by Burkie by far is the deluge of jealous fans and media. Hey, I would be too if he takes a weak franchise and builds it into a Stanley Cup Champion in a couple of years. So I appreciate Burkie's effort in finally bringing the Cup to California.
Here's an analogy to Vancouver letting Burkie go... from tonight's game play-by-play host, Ahlers, "So why would you trade away a Joe Thornton?"
Uh, I'm not sure if you've been watching Bert much on the ice (and if not, I don't blame you), but he SUCKS. This has nothing to do with jealousy -- just watch the guy play. The comparisons accomplish nothing. You can easily look around the league and start throwing numerous comparisons around in order to make Bert look like he's doing OK out there for a 4 million dollar player. Bert has 14 goals & 24 assists in 65 games and probably 250 turnovers.
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 02:12 AM Uh, I'm not sure if you've been watching Bert much on the ice (and if not, I don't blame you), but he SUCKS. This has nothing to do with jealousy -- just watch the guy play. The comparisons accomplish nothing. You can easily look around the league and start throwing numerous comparisons around in order to make Bert look like he's doing OK out there for a 4 million dollar player. Bert has 14 goals & 24 assists in 65 games and probably 250 turnovers.
I have to agree with Rotten. Bertuzzi has a good game one day (like he did against the Kings) and then he has a period of mediocrity for a while. He has the skills, but the drive is somewhat questionable.
68 Z-28 03-29-2008, 02:17 AM The 3 star home bias happens around the league.
While I do expect some homerisim considering the home team media picks the 3 Stars.... That's pretty bad...
likewall32 03-29-2008, 02:18 AM I hate the fact that even though you guys were missing Giguere, Getzlaf, Perry, and Pronger, the game was still not as one sided as it should have been in those circumstances. You guys have a damn fine hockey club, it'd be a shame if we fans weren't rewarded with a Sharks/Ducks WCF, if not sooner in the playoffs.
68 Z-28 03-29-2008, 02:19 AM Yes, the Sharks have injuries as well, but this team's offensive depth is so limited that even one injury hurts them significantly. Especially the loss of our top two scorers. San Jose has much more depth offensively and can absorb Cheechoo's loss more easily. I'll give you Rivet, as he is a good defensemen.
Sharks played without 3 starters, Ducks played without 3 starters. Ducks got outplayed plain and simple.
Good game.
dburdick 03-29-2008, 02:20 AM What are you talking about? Bertuzzi's a bull on the offensive end when on the cycle. He goes to the front of the net knowing he's gonna get hit. And he's 5th in scoring for this team. Also, he's scored more points right now this season than SJ's Cheechoo, Sergei Fedorov, and tied with Minn's Mikko Koivu! :yo:
Cheecho was injured for half the season coming off a double-hernia operation. Even so he has 24 goals to Bert's 14. Bertuzzi has been an over-paid free-agent bust. Next to giving Bryzgala away for free, the worst move by Burke this season.
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 02:21 AM Sharks played without 3 starters, Ducks played without 3 starters. Ducks got outplayed plain and simple.
Good game.
I think that is missing the point. The quality of the players matters as well. And the players the Ducks are missing are their top players.
I digress. I hate using injuries as an excuse, but in this case, it is probably warranted.
Rotten 03-29-2008, 02:23 AM I hate the fact that even though you guys were missing Giguere, Getzlaf, Perry, and Pronger, the game was still not as one sided as it should have been in those circumstances. You guys have a damn fine hockey club, it'd be a shame if we fans weren't rewarded with a Sharks/Ducks WCF, if not sooner in the playoffs.
I wouldn't mind seeing a ANA/SJ playoff matchup, but I'm hoping for another Ducks/Flames round. I can't remember a bad game between both teams in a real long time. Talk about physical -- the series would be awesome. Normally I wouldn't want to see Minnesota, but with Boogaard, Fedoruk, Simon and a few others, it would likely be a great series. After that, maybe SJ.
Randall Graves* 03-29-2008, 02:23 AM Anyone else miss Andy McDonald right now? No speed whatsoever up front right now....
When we pulled the goalie, how come Ryan wasn't out there? besides Selanne did any forward besides Ryan create any scoring chances??
But what can you do, a team that has trouble scoring to begin with can't afford to lose 2/3 of it's top line..anyone know when Carter is coming back? He'd be a substantial upgrade over the two top centers right now.
Ducksforcup 03-29-2008, 02:24 AM Anyone else miss Andy McDonald right now? No speed whatsoever up front right now....
When we pulled the goalie, how come Ryan wasn't out there? besides Selanne did any forward besides Ryan create any scoring chances??
But what can you do, a team that has trouble scoring to begin with can't afford to lose 2/3 of it's top line..anyone know when Carter is coming back? He'd be a substantial upgrade over the two top centers right now.
I heard something that he may come back before the end of the season. That would make a certain DFC very happy. :)
iHATEbeauch23 03-29-2008, 02:39 AM Missing:
Conn Smythe winner & 3 all stars.
Yay i love excuses.
dburdick 03-29-2008, 02:40 AM Anyone else miss Andy McDonald right now? No speed whatsoever up front right now....
The lack of speed on the top 6 is the biggest problem facing the Ducks offensively. However, with Getzlaf and Pronger back, the problem is mitigated to a degree. The Ducks are built to win physical, defensive-oriented, low-scoring playoff hockey. No team has a better goalie tandem, or a better defense, or a better shut-down line. Having these 3 ingredients alone gives the Ducks a chance to beat any team on any given night - especially in the playoffs.
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 02:40 AM What are you talking about? He's a bull on the offensive end when on the cycle. He goes to the front of the net knowing he's gonna get hit. And he's 5th in scoring for this team. Also, he's scored more points right now this season than SJ's Cheechoo, Sergei Fedorov, and tied with Minn's Mikko Koivu! :yo:
Worst acquisition by Burkie by far is the deluge of jealous fans and media. Hey, I would be too if he takes a weak franchise and builds it into a Stanley Cup Champion in a couple of years. So I appreciate Burkie's effort in finally bringing the Cup to California.
Here's an analogy to Vancouver letting Burkie go... from tonight's game play-by-play host, Ahlers, "So why would you trade away a Joe Thornton?"
5th in scoring... and 1st in salary among forwards. That's an unmitigated disaster. Never mind the fact that he's already missed 14 games, is injury-prone, and "misses" countless other games by not showing up.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 02:49 AM Playing against the Sharks :
1)Backup Goalie(Boucher)
2)Without its leading goal scorer(Cheecho)
3)Without its best defensive D-man (Rivet)
4) In the Ducks barn on the second nite of a back-to-back
5)With the Ducks 10-game home winning streak on the line
6) Following an embarrassing performance by the Ducks in San Jose
1) Boucher... are you kidding? Comparing an 8 year vet to a rookie?
Oh yeah, the Ducks really had no choice to play the back-up.
2) Perry(29-54pts) >>> Cheechoo(22-36pts)
Thornton(26-91) is the sharks' leading goal scorer... and points scorer too! To add insult to injury, Bertuzzi has more points than Cheechoo(38 points).
3) You wanna compare Rivet to Pronger?!!!
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(#4 - 6 are pathetic reasons)
4) Don't whine. These are athletes that have been doing this for years. Back to back. Last year, the ducks were much better on the 2nd game of back-to-backs than the first game. Lame retort.
5) 10 game winning streak with most of the roster healthy
6) A 2-1 loss is embarrasing? How about a 5-2 drubbing or a 2-0 shutout? If you don't know what i'm talking about, then go to page one in this thread. I did the work for you.
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I was inferring to the quality of players missing.
1. I like Nabby. So let's call the missing goalies a wash.
2. Perry >> Cheechoo. ( Bert = Cheechoo... he's having a bad year )
3. Pronger >> Rivet (Schneider = Rivet)
So tell me, how do you account for a missing 1st line, all-star center that leads the team in scoring? ahhh... I see. Don't see? Take out Thornton in the line up, then the shutdown line can focus on someone else. (Thornton was pretty invisible until after the game and gave cheap shots to an unaware King Beauch. Ask Jerome Iginla what would happen in an actual scrap.)
But hey, even though the Ducks lost, they gained a significant moral victory by out-hitting the Sharks 32-22.
Being the best in the clash of the worst still doesn't amount to hill of beans either.
Benny Lava 03-29-2008, 02:54 AM My thoughts on the game:
1) ****ing turnovers. All game, all over the ice. It was infuriating.
2) ****ing rebounds. I know Hiller's good, and I love the kid, but come on. Huge rebounds all over.
3) ****ing Ducks fans. This idiot behind me was there with his girlfriend who knew nothing about hockey, and was constantly asking questions about the game. That's great, new fans are always welcome, but her boyfriend was a dumbass. She was asking about Scott and Rob and this all-knowing guy goes on this big tangent about how they've played together their whole careers, and starts telling her how Rob is so much better than Scott because he's bigger. I then kindly told him to stop talking.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 02:56 AM 5th in scoring... and 1st in salary among forwards. That's an unmitigated disaster. Never mind the fact that he's already missed 14 games, is injury-prone, and "misses" countless other games by not showing up.
I know... sad. But it's either him for two years or Penner's albatross contract for 5 years.
His contract is too expensive, but he's showing up in the 2nd half. I hope he continues the dominance with the puck on the cycle in the post season. I think keeping Penner would have been worse.
SJSharksFan 03-29-2008, 03:04 AM My thoughts on the game:
1) ****ing turnovers. All game, all over the ice. It was infuriating.
2) ****ing rebounds. I know Hiller's good, and I love the kid, but come on. Huge rebounds all over.
3) ****ing Ducks fans. This idiot behind me was there with his girlfriend who knew nothing about hockey, and was constantly asking questions about the game. That's great, new fans are always welcome, but her boyfriend was a dumbass. She was asking about Scott and Rob and this all-knowing guy goes on this big tangent about how they've played together their whole careers, and starts telling her how Rob is so much better than Scott because he's bigger. I then kindly told him to stop talking.
Was she hot?
Benny Lava 03-29-2008, 03:07 AM Was she hot?
Hell yes. It's the only reason I didn't go Pronger on his face.
Davidhye 03-29-2008, 03:07 AM 2. Perry >> Cheechoo. ( Bert = Cheechoo... he's having a bad year )how about cheech being #2 highest scorer (1st - Ovechkin) after the All-Star break?
Hell yes. It's the only reason I didn't go Pronger on his face.you were going to stomp on his face? if you ever do that, please record it :D
SJSharksFan 03-29-2008, 03:08 AM Hell yes. It's the only reason I didn't go Pronger on his face.
Haha, you are a good man :)
Benny Lava 03-29-2008, 03:11 AM you were going to stomp on his face? if you ever do that, please record it :D
That's exactly what I was going to do. I think I would have elbowed his head into the boards for good measure.
Randall Graves* 03-29-2008, 03:14 AM I know... sad. But it's either him for two years or Penner's albatross contract for 5 years.
His contract is too expensive, but he's showing up in the 2nd half. I hope he continues the dominance with the puck on the cycle in the post season. I think keeping Penner would have been worse.
Bertuzzi pisses me off.
Last game he was awesome, tonight, completely invisible. The way he plays in the playoffs will be probably be how he and his contract is judged. I just don't understand, he has so much talent yet he uses about 30 percent of it. I do not get why Burke is so in love with him.
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 03:21 AM I hate the fact that even though you guys were missing Giguere, Getzlaf, Perry, and Pronger, the game was still not as one sided as it should have been in those circumstances. You guys have a damn fine hockey club, it'd be a shame if we fans weren't rewarded with a Sharks/Ducks WCF, if not sooner in the playoffs.
This was a bad game for Duck fans to watch. Heck, Scotty was being punked consistently this game. I can't count how many times a Shark would cherry pick the puck from a Duck defenseman or an attacking Duck forward. Or a goalie who couldn't keep a hold onto pucks. The Sharks were flying throughout the game and earned the win. Outside from the Shutdown line, the rest of the Ducks started to show up halfway through the 3rd period.
Though, I took a step back and thought like you did. Missing that many skilled players, it's not really that bad of a loss for the Ducks because they were still in the game.
Conversely, I think RW played it right. Once you had the lead, there was no real need to push it b/c of the lack of skilled Duck players. Only Ryan and Scotty were able to skate through the middle and into the offensive zone. It was prevent defense... basically, it was like seeing the Ducks PK, but on 5-5. Clogged the middle and stood up at the blue line. Wait for the Ducks to make mistakes and capitalize on it. It's good practice for the playoffs for both teams. Sharks on how to hold onto a lead. Ducks seeing how difficult it will be once they are down in the game.
I would like to see an all California WCF! That way none of the locals would miss parts of the game due to work if it were against Detroit. Hope to see you guys in the playoffs!
Hockey Duckie 03-29-2008, 03:23 AM Bertuzzi pisses me off.
Last game he was awesome, tonight, completely invisible. The way he plays in the playoffs will be probably be how he and his contract is judged. I just don't understand, he has so much talent yet he uses about 30 percent of it. I do not get why Burke is so in love with him.
Ha! Like we all don't get why Burke loves to trade away 2nd round draft picks!
Shape 03-29-2008, 03:52 AM Great game guys.
I still think the Ducks are the team to beat in the West. They put up a helluva fight without their TOP players.
Good luck in in the PO. Hope to see you in the WCF.
thrillhous 03-29-2008, 04:05 AM The 3 star home bias happens around the league.
True, but this is blatant. Giving the first star to a player on the losing team only works where someone scores a hat trick in a losing effort or where a goalie stops 50 of 52 shots. This was ridiculous.
thrillhous 03-29-2008, 04:05 AM maybe they are mad because the sharks screwed up the 3 stars last time you played us at home
That probably explains it.
lux_interior 03-29-2008, 04:08 AM Whatevs. The Sharks look good. Of course Dallas looked unbeatable about a month ago.
I thought Ryan had a good game, along with Schneider and Scott Neids. Thought Beauchemin and Bertuzzi had decent games...some good plays, some not so good.
Hiller's bubble burst a little there, but he has been playing a lot more recently.
And there's nothing wrong with fake boobs.
Patty Ice 03-29-2008, 04:15 AM Hell yes. It's the only reason I didn't go Pronger on his face.
Even more of a reason to have done it.
Prove to her that you are the more suitable mate.
Benny Lava 03-29-2008, 04:21 AM Even more of a reason to have done it.
Prove to her that you are the more suitable mate.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1113/755915010_76938f927a.jpg
Shoulda gone all Animal Planet on his ass?
MOENing 03-29-2008, 04:47 AM 1) Boucher... are you kidding? Comparing an 8 year vet to a rookie?
Oh yeah, the Ducks really had no choice to play the back-up.
2) Perry(29-54pts) >>> Cheechoo(22-36pts)
Thornton(26-91) is the sharks' leading goal scorer... and points scorer too! To add insult to injury, Bertuzzi has more points than Cheechoo(38 points).
3) You wanna compare Rivet to Pronger?!!!
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(#4 - 6 are pathetic reasons)
4) Don't whine. These are athletes that have been doing this for years. Back to back. Last year, the ducks were much better on the 2nd game of back-to-backs than the first game. Lame retort.
5) 10 game winning streak with most of the roster healthy
6) A 2-1 loss is embarrasing? How about a 5-2 drubbing or a 2-0 shutout? If you don't know what i'm talking about, then go to page one in this thread. I did the work for you.
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I was inferring to the quality of players missing.
1. I like Nabby. So let's call the missing goalies a wash.
2. Perry >> Cheechoo. ( Bert = Cheechoo... he's having a bad year )
3. Pronger >> Rivet (Schneider = Rivet)
So tell me, how do you account for a missing 1st line, all-star center that leads the team in scoring? ahhh... I see. Don't see? Take out Thornton in the line up, then the shutdown line can focus on someone else. (Thornton was pretty invisible until after the game and gave cheap shots to an unaware King Beauch. Ask Jerome Iginla what would happen in an actual scrap.)
Being the best in the clash of the worst still doesn't amount to hill of beans either.
owned hardcore
If Rivet is the sharks best D what's Soupy. Hannan must have been god on the sharks team.
Randall Graves* 03-29-2008, 04:50 AM True, but this is blatant. Giving the first star to a player on the losing team only works where someone scores a hat trick in a losing effort or where a goalie stops 50 of 52 shots. This was ridiculous.
Who cares, it's inconsequential.
Some of you are like Frasier Crane, I swear to God.
Pinkfloyd 03-29-2008, 06:24 AM owned hardcore
If Rivet is the sharks best D what's Soupy. Hannan must have been god on the sharks team.
Whether or not the players on the Ducks are better is really irrelevant. The fact is that the Sharks were missing people who are key elements to their success as well and saying injuries as an excuse for this loss is just an attempt to take away credit from the opposition.
Cheechoo is still a top line winger. Rivet is still a top pairing defenseman (on this team). Setoguchi is a top six winger. Ryane Clowe is also. Evgeni Nabokov is a top goalie in this league. Just because the guys on the Sharks are being less productive does not mean that their role is less meaningful to their success.
190Octane 03-29-2008, 12:40 PM If you are going to get on Bertuzzi, don't forget to pile on Doug Weight also.
If this team doesn't repeat the lack of a decent second line center will most likely be the reason why.
Diggy 03-29-2008, 01:02 PM Scotty "I like to make blind passes to the other team in my own zone" Niedermayer, Teemu "I forgot how to pass" Selanne, Dougie "I will get there eventually with my walker" Weight, Todd "I am lazy" Bertuzzi, and Mathieu "I like to randomly skate in circles, not pick up attachers because that would interfere with my offensive game, and miss the net with every shot" Schneider should all be benched because of that game. They were good for multiple turns overs each every shift. None of them could make a tape to tape pass to save their life. It was sad.
I thought San Jose was supposed to be good. How did they not kill us when we are out our 2 leading scorers, a Norris trophy winning defenseman, and a Conn Smythe winning goalie when 5 of our veteran leaders do little all game but cough up the puck?
snarktacular 03-29-2008, 01:09 PM Are Sharks fans seriously trying to say the Sharks are missing pieces as important to the team as the Ducks were? Seriously? If you are going to compare the 2 teams' chances in the postseason, you absolutely cannot use the head-to-head record because SJ didn't have Campbell the first 6 or whatever games and the Ducks didn't have 3 of their best players in the last 2.
That said, injuries make a poor excuse. I refuse to be a Detroit fan. The Ducks looked pretty flat and the Sharks looked good. They deserved the win. And based on (the incredibly large sample-sized) their play in the past 2 games against us compared to how inconsistently I've seen the Ducks play all season, they deserve the division as well (although the Sharks were also pretty damn inconsistent earlier in the year).
In fact the Ducks have looked crappy like this far too many times this season, with all sorts of lineups, for me to feel very confident going into the playoffs. Just like how I predicted my 2 teams to lose by 2 goals and 20 points yesterday, I just don't have that good of a feeling about the SC playoffs.
Hollander 03-29-2008, 01:24 PM In fact the Ducks have looked crappy like this far too many times this season, with all sorts of lineups, for me to feel very confident going into the playoffs. Just like how I predicted my 2 teams to lose by 2 goals and 20 points yesterday, I just don't have that good of a feeling about the SC playoffs.
Completely agree. Something seems to be missing from the Ducks this season. Call it heart, motivation or whatever. Too often they just don't seem to care. They had that a little bit last year as well but this year it is far worse. Has this team really been Bertuzzied? He sucks ass most of the time and is by far the worst move Burke has made imo.
glasgow26 03-29-2008, 01:32 PM injuries are part of the game. stop using that as an excuse, especially because no one is denying the fact that you were missing your top players. and it's Pronger's dumbass fault that he got suspended for trying to break another player's ankle. good luck getting smashed by Dallas.
thrillhous 03-29-2008, 01:37 PM Who cares, it's inconsequential.
I care, thanks.
Hopper15 03-29-2008, 01:41 PM Scotty "I like to make blind passes to the other team in my own zone" Niedermayer, Teemu "I forgot how to pass" Selanne, Dougie "I will get there eventually with my walker" Weight, Todd "I am lazy" Bertuzzi, and Mathieu "I like to randomly skate in circles, not pick up attachers because that would interfere with my offensive game, and miss the net with every shot" Schneider should all be benched because of that game. They were good for multiple turns overs each every shift. None of them could make a tape to tape pass to save their life. It was sad.
I thought San Jose was supposed to be good. How did they not kill us when we are out our 2 leading scorers, a Norris trophy winning defenseman, and a Conn Smythe winning goalie when 5 of our veteran leaders do little all game but cough up the puck?
A win is a win, I don't care if it's by one goal or five.
dburdick 03-29-2008, 01:51 PM Are Sharks fans seriously trying to say the Sharks are missing pieces as important to the team as the Ducks were? Seriously? If you are going to compare the 2 teams' chances in the postseason, you absolutely cannot use the head-to-head record because SJ didn't have Campbell the first 6 or whatever games and the Ducks didn't have 3 of their best players in the last 2.
That said, injuries make a poor excuse. I refuse to be a Detroit fan. The Ducks looked pretty flat and the Sharks looked good. They deserved the win. And based on (the incredibly large sample-sized) their play in the past 2 games against us compared to how inconsistently I've seen the Ducks play all season, they deserve the division as well (although the Sharks were also pretty damn inconsistent earlier in the year).
In fact the Ducks have looked crappy like this far too many times this season, with all sorts of lineups, for me to feel very confident going into the playoffs. Just like how I predicted my 2 teams to lose by 2 goals and 20 points yesterday, I just don't have that good of a feeling about the SC playoffs.
A voice of coherency in the wilderness. I completely agree with this. The Ducks sans Pronger and Perry is/was worse than anything the Sharks had missing the last few games. However, even with those 2 back along with Guiguere, I'm not convinced that the Ducks are better than last year's SC winning team. The offense is still stagnant and the defense has looked ordinary at times.
Static 03-29-2008, 02:25 PM Sharks played without 3 starters, Ducks played without 3 starters. Ducks got outplayed plain and simple.
Good game.
Such simple logic. Whatevs, didnt expect to win that game anyway.
Chairman Mallard 03-29-2008, 02:36 PM I don't think that missing Rivet is as important as missing Pronger, I think Boucher and Hiller is honestly a wash even though Boucher is more of a veteran. Hiller has been playing some great games lately, especially for a rookie. Cheechoo is underrated this season though, as he is a hard worker, and really works the cycle down low with Joe and Michalek and the first line has seemed to slighly struggle scoring without him these last few games. Obviously its tough to play a red hot Sharks team without these major pieces to the team but a poster or two have made an excuse for every single goal scored the last two games between these two teams. Not every single goal scored is lucky, a softy, or anything else. Sometimes goals are scored because they are earned. (For both teams) At some point, we have to give credit where credit is due. (Almost all of you have been very classy, I'm not trying to flame or start any sort of argument here)
The Ducks to me are still the team to beat in the West and the defending champions, and very scary for us Sharks especially when they get their pieces back. Its nice for the Sharks to have the #2 seed but most importantly I didn't care what seed they were as long as they avoided the Ducks, at least in round 1.
Good luck in the playoffs guys, and I'm sure we will be seeing you again.:yo:
McDonald19 03-29-2008, 03:07 PM Ok I think we have had enough posts from Sharks fans telling us how injuries are a lame excuse and how the Sharks dominated the game. Any further posts like this I will consider trolling. If you want to have a fair discussion of the game thats fine.
Chairman Mallard 03-29-2008, 04:40 PM Ok I think we have had enough posts from Sharks fans telling us how injuries are a lame excuse and how the Sharks dominated the game. Any further posts like this I will consider trolling. If you want to have a fair discussion of the game thats fine.
I honestly don't see how that is trolling if you were referring to my post, and I really was not trying to stir up any crap.
McDonald19 03-29-2008, 07:40 PM I honestly don't see how that is trolling if you were referring to my post, and I really was not trying to stir up any crap.
No it was SoCalSharkzfan's post.
SonOfBraincramp 03-29-2008, 07:55 PM Sharks played without 3 starters, Ducks played without 3 starters. Ducks got outplayed plain and simple.
Good game.
Sorry but Perry, Pronger, Getz, Carter, Giggy = 5 not 3.
your losses would equal Marchant, Matty and Bert out of the lineup, not the 5 that were.
That being said the ducks had a bad 2 period and took dumb fouls. Then again we did that all last season and won the cup.
Sharks will tank in the playoffs as usually.
SoB
justinboo 03-29-2008, 09:16 PM Good teams find ways to win regardless of injury. See Detroit. I wonder what Duck fans would be spouting if they lost with their stars. Probably blaming refs. Most likely lmao.
To the duck fans not complaining, cheers.
Rotten 03-29-2008, 09:20 PM Scotty "I like to make blind passes to the other team in my own zone" Niedermayer, Teemu "I forgot how to pass" Selanne, Dougie "I will get there eventually with my walker" Weight, Todd "I am lazy" Bertuzzi, and Mathieu "I like to randomly skate in circles, not pick up attachers because that would interfere with my offensive game, and miss the net with every shot" Schneider should all be benched because of that game. They were good for multiple turns overs each every shift. None of them could make a tape to tape pass to save their life. It was sad.
I thought San Jose was supposed to be good. How did they not kill us when we are out our 2 leading scorers, a Norris trophy winning defenseman, and a Conn Smythe winning goalie when 5 of our veteran leaders do little all game but cough up the puck?
I'm sure there's sarcasm to be found in your post, but I agree with some of it.
S. Niedermayer had a good game, so I wouldn't fault him at all.
When Teemu struggles, he always forces passes that end up in turnovers. Unfortunately, this is one of his few weaknesses.
Yup, Weight has been a big letdown. Extremely slow and really adds nothing to the team other than maybe leadership (as if the Ducks didn't have enough already). Not complaining much about the trade since McDonald wasn't doing much at all without Teemu, and you can't keep a guy who only performs under special circumstances. Plus, Weight will be gone after the season is over, unless Burke decides to resign him, which I highly doubt.
Schneider scares me at times. I don't feel very confident watching him handle the puck in the defensive zone, but for the most part he's been decent this season.
Bertuzzi should be playing in Portland. And just to think he'll be back in Anaheim next season.
hockeydemon05 03-29-2008, 09:20 PM Good teams find ways to win regardless of injury. See Detroit. I wonder what Duck fans would be spouting if they lost with their stars. Probably blaming refs. Most likely lmao.
It'd be the only reason they'd loose (refs) if they had all their stars ;)
Rotten 03-29-2008, 09:28 PM Bertuzzi pisses me off.
Last game he was awesome, tonight, completely invisible. The way he plays in the playoffs will be probably be how he and his contract is judged. I just don't understand, he has so much talent yet he uses about 30 percent of it. I do not get why Burke is so in love with him.
Must have something to do with his attitude. Bertuzzi is mean and grumpy like Burke. Who knows.
Has this team really been Bertuzzied? He sucks ass most of the time and is by far the worst move Burke has made imo.
Word is in the past Bertuzzi was cancer in the locker room. I really hope he's not affecting this team off the ice as well.
Static 03-29-2008, 10:13 PM Good teams find ways to win regardless of injury. See Detroit. I wonder what Duck fans would be spouting if they lost with their stars. Probably blaming refs. Most likely lmao.
To the duck fans not complaining, cheers.
Yep, I remember when Detroit was without Lidstrom and promptly lost four in a row. Kind of like that? That was only with Lidstrom out. Take out Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Hasek during that time and see how long that streak goes.
Nice try though, you were pretty close to posting something intelligent. Kind of.
Heaton 03-29-2008, 10:18 PM Yep, I remember when Detroit was without Lidstrom and promptly lost four in a row. Kind of like that? That was only with Lidstrom out. Take out Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Hasek during that time and see how long that streak goes.
Nice try though, you were pretty close to posting something intelligent. Kind of.
The Wings entire top 4 was out along with Hasek and Cleary. It wasn't *just* Lidstrom.
Static 03-29-2008, 10:29 PM The Wings entire top 4 was out along with Hasek and Cleary. It wasn't *just* Lidstrom.
That is a lot worse then. Id argue that in the Ducks case creating offense is the weak point and losing the top 3 of 4 scorers hurts them worse than other teams who may have better depth. Obviously defense is a strong point in Detroit's game but losing the top 4 is nothing to sneeze at. Hasek was back for one of those games as well. Would Detroit have fared better with Zetterberg and Datsyuk out along with Lidstrom instead of what happened instead?
rmarion 03-29-2008, 10:44 PM Sharks played without 3 starters, Ducks played without 3 starters. Ducks got outplayed plain and simple.
Good game.
Yep!!!!!!!!!
Playoff's are a differant animal...........I like the Duck's chances.........
Duckstudd269 03-29-2008, 10:47 PM injuries are part of the game. stop using that as an excuse, especially because no one is denying the fact that you were missing your top players. and it's Pronger's dumbass fault that he got suspended for trying to break another player's ankle. good luck getting smashed by Dallas.
wow you're really cluless... Nobody was griping to the sharks fans about our injuries. Someone from your board came in and started comparing injuries to ours, take your whining over there *****. It's honestly stupid to even compare the teams injuries. The fact is that the Ducks were missing three allstars, arguably 4 with Jiggy. The sharks had injuries and we all know that. Cheechoo is a leach off of Thorton, plain and simple. I watch that guy play and I can't imagine how he ever reached 50 goals. Since sharks fans started comparing injuries then I'll do the same. We were with out our two top forwards, best defensmen, and top goaltender. The hardest injuries to replace are your top forwards. 2nd liners aren't as hard to replace. Stop comparing the injuries because it doesn't prove any point.
Duckstudd269 03-29-2008, 10:48 PM LOL. No doubt about it. I'm looking at the 3 star selection online right now:
1. S. Niedermayer
2. T. Moen
3. B. Boucher
BRUTAL! A player on the winning team should get the #1 star. Niedermayer had a nice game - I'd give him #2. MOEN? wtf?
Revenge for Hiller being screwed the last game...
Duckstudd269 03-29-2008, 10:59 PM Playing against the Sharks :
1)Backup Goalie(Boucher)
2)Without its leading goal scorer(Cheecho)
3)Without its best defensive D-man (Rivet)
4) In the Ducks barn on the second nite of a back-to-back
5)With the Ducks 10-game home winning streak on the line
6) Following an embarrassing performance by the Ducks in San Jose
But hey, even though the Ducks lost, they gained a significant moral victory by out-hitting the Sharks 32-22.
1) You know we've been playing our back up too. They cancel each other out though, I'll give you that. I don't agree with whoever mentioned Boucher is a veteran, both teams played backups so goaltending was even.
2) First off Thorton is the leading scorer but the point is:Perry>>>>>>>>>Cheech.
3) Try missing arguably the best defensmen in hockey. Rivet isn't a top 2 defensmen on most teams.
4) That's no big deal when the Ducks are missing as many players as they are.
5) Sharks are hottest team in the league right now so even mentioning winning streaks is pointless.
6) Pointless comment...
The Sharks deserved the win and they got. However to even compare the teams injuries is pointless. So what if we're talking about how bad our injuries hurt us, it's our board. We're going to vent here. Quit coming over and starting **** with us because it's lame on your part. If we come over to your board and start complaining then by all means let us have it, over there. Be smarter...
Nikko 03-30-2008, 12:08 AM wow you're really cluless... Nobody was griping to the sharks fans about our injuries. Someone from your board came in and started comparing injuries to ours, take your whining over there *****. It's honestly stupid to even compare the teams injuries. The fact is that the Ducks were missing three allstars, arguably 4 with Jiggy. The sharks had injuries and we all know that. Cheechoo is a leach off of Thorton, plain and simple. I watch that guy play and I can't imagine how he ever reached 50 goals. Since sharks fans started comparing injuries then I'll do the same. We were with out our two top forwards, best defensmen, and top goaltender. The hardest injuries to replace are your top forwards. 2nd liners aren't as hard to replace. Stop comparing the injuries because it doesn't prove any point.
Duckstudd is like our resident enforcer on our board I love it.
dburdick 03-30-2008, 02:41 AM 2) First off Thorton is the leading scorer but the point is:Perry>>>>>>>>>Cheech.
Since the All-star break, Cheech has the second highest number of goals scored in the league. You may not be aware of the fact that he was hampered most of the first half recovering from a double-hernia operation. There isn't a GM alive that believes Perry is >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheech. At best they might be equal. Call me when Perry has a 40 or 50 goal year.
3) Try missing arguably the best defensmen in hockey. Rivet isn't a top 2 defensmen on most teams.
Granted, Rivet isn't anywhere near Pronger but he's our number 2 guy and our best defensive d-man. Any team that has to play Alexi Semenov in its D-corp is the equivalent of spotting the opposing team at least a goal.
6) "Following an embarrassing performance by the Ducks in San Jose" - Pointless comment...
Randy Carlyle didn't think so as quoted in the OC Register:
Coach Randy Carlyle was less concerned with seeing San Jose take the division crown away from the defending champion Ducks in their own building than he was disappointed with his club’s performance in its second loss to the Sharks in a week.
Look, no one is arguing that the Ducks were not hampered by the absence of Pronger, Perry and Getz (1 game). But to suggest that the Sharks victories are completely hollow or unimpressive is foolish. The Ducks were completely manhandled in San Jose despite the close score (outshot 43 - 13, no shots by the Ducks in the 3rd period). The recent game in Anaheim was closer, but both teams were missing key components so at best that game was more inconclusive.
At full strength, the Ducks have a better defense while the Sharks have a better offense. As I've said many times on this board and others, the Ducks are built to win SC playoff hockey because they have the best goalie tandem, D-corp, and shutdown line in the NHL. The question is, do they have enough offense. Going into this years playoffs, I would argue that the Ducks offense is worse, perhaps even much worse (depending on Perry's return) than what it was last year.
snarktacular 03-30-2008, 02:48 AM 2) First off Thorton is the leading scorer but the point is:Perry>>>>>>>>>Cheech.
LOL at board auto-smiley.
Benny Lava 03-30-2008, 02:50 AM Call me when Perry has a 40 or 50 goal year.
Call me when Cheechoo is a 22 year old playing in just his second full season.
dburdick 03-30-2008, 03:07 AM Call me when Cheechoo is a 22 year old playing in just his second full season.
Okay, I'll call you. In Cheechoo's second full season in the NHL (2005/2006) he scored 56 goals and had 93 points at the ripe old age of 24.
snarktacular 03-30-2008, 03:09 AM Since the All-star break, Cheech has the second highest number of goals scored in the league.
Since All-Star break:
Cheechoo: 13 goals
Ovechkin: 22
Iginla: 17
Malkin: 17
Heatley: 14
Spezza: 15
Prospal: 14
Vanek: 19
Datsyuk: 14
I got bored after that. That's ignoring the boatloads of people who also had 13.
dburdick 03-30-2008, 03:18 AM Since All-Star break:
Cheechoo: 13 goals
Ovechkin: 22
Iginla: 17
Malkin: 17
Heatley: 14
Spezza: 15
Prospal: 14
Vanek: 19
Datsyuk: 14
I got bored after that. That's ignoring the boatloads of people who also had 13.
Yes, I guess my info was bit dated from THN article the first of March. Thanks for the catch
Benny Lava 03-30-2008, 03:27 AM Okay, I'll call you. In Cheechoo's second full season in the NHL (2005/2006) he scored 56 goals and had 93 points at the ripe old age of 24.
Cheechoo was 25 if I remember right, and I'm fairly confident Perry will be a 40 goal guy by the time he's 25.
Static 03-30-2008, 03:44 AM Okay, I'll call you. In Cheechoo's second full season in the NHL (2005/2006) he scored 56 goals and had 93 points at the ripe old age of 24.
haha.........then what?
Spankatola Jamnuts 03-30-2008, 04:18 AM ...jesus.
I was thinking the other day that the boards are really bad now, and it basically sucks to come here as much as it does to all the other boards.
Is it a general decline of this website or is it just because the Ducks have a good team now?
McDonald19 03-30-2008, 05:13 AM Closed.
Enough with the trolling and flaming. Ducks have another game today.
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