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heusy_79 03-26-2008, 11:52 PM I see similar threads popping up on other team's boards, so I thought I would make one here. I know that we are still unsure exactly where our pick will end up, but taking a guess at where it will be, who would you like to see the Ducks take in each round?
My list:
1st Round (could be anywhere between 6th and 13th)
Zach Bogosian, Luke Schenn, Mikael Boedker--> Adresses need for a top end defenceman, if the top end defenceman are gone by the time we pick I really like Boedker's game
2nd Round- Chet Pickard, Harri Sateri, Tom McCollum ---> Would like to see a goalie taken here, we have no real top end prospect at this position
3rd Round- Mark Barberio, Josh Brittain, James Livingston
4th Round- Jimmy Hayes, Shawn Lalonde, Chris Doyle
5th Round- Stephen Johnston (some of us Bulls fans think his game reminds us of a young Matthias), Ian Schultz, Zach Harnden
jax00 03-26-2008, 11:54 PM I want Luke Schenn, but we probably won't get him.
Benny Lava 03-27-2008, 12:32 AM I'd be very happy if we took Jimmy Hayes in the 4th round. For a 6'5 guy, he's a good skater, and apparently he's got a good head on his shoulders.
TheJoeMan 03-27-2008, 02:33 AM I won't really look into first rounders until we know where we will pick. A we've got a lot of d-man prospects who may be full time NHLers but not any sure-fire studs (though I think Mitera could surprise a lot of people some day). A top-flight forward would be nice too.
With the second rounder I'd like us to pick Mitch Wahl but I fear he won't fall that low.
Duck Fan 03-27-2008, 02:33 PM This thread appears to be the best one to pose the question of the Bergeron trade. Does anyone know whether we traded our third round pick or the Edmonton third round pick for MAB?
heusy_79 03-27-2008, 04:59 PM This thread appears to be the best one to pose the question of the Bergeron trade. Does anyone know whether we traded our third round pick or the Edmonton third round pick for MAB?
I'm not a 100% sure on this, but I think it was our own, which makes the trade look better because it will end up being an almost 4th round pick for Bergeron.
MOENing 03-31-2008, 08:11 PM Picks that we own:
Edm 1st Rounder
Edm 2nd Rounder
Edm 3rd Rounder
Ana or Bos 4th Rounder
Ana 5th Rounder
Ana 6th Rounder
Stl 7th Rounder
Ana 7th Rounder
Ducksforcup 03-31-2008, 08:57 PM Picks that we own:
Edm 1st Rounder
Edm 2nd Rounder
Edm 3rd Rounder
Ana or Bos 4th Rounder
Ana 5th Rounder
Ana 6th Rounder
Stl 7th Rounder
Ana 7th Rounder
I've been keeping track of this in another thread and we don't have that many picks.
Edmonton 1st-3rd Round Selections
Anaheim 4th-5th Round Selections
That is all we got. :(
MOENing 03-31-2008, 09:00 PM I've been keeping track of this in another thread and we don't have that many picks.
Edmonton 1st-3rd Round Selections
Anaheim 4th-5th Round Selections
That is all we got. :(
We have STL 7th rounder via Andy Mac.
Ducksforcup 03-31-2008, 09:01 PM We have STL 7th rounder via Andy Mac.
Nope, it was traded in the Jay Leach trade.
Yes, I remember these things.
snarktacular 03-31-2008, 09:07 PM Both 7th were sent away. One for Aubin, one for Leach.
Do we really know that we still have Edmonton's 3rd and that it wasn't that pick who we traded for MA Turnover? I don't remember ever hearing confirmation either way.
Ducksforcup 03-31-2008, 09:12 PM Both 7th were sent away. One for Aubin, one for Leach.
Do we really know that we still have Edmonton's 3rd and that it wasn't that pick who we traded for MA Turnover? I don't remember ever hearing confirmation either way.
I just kind of assumed it was our third round pick just to make me feel better. :p:
And besides that turnover, I don't think Bergeron has been that bad. I would like him to shoot his vaunted slap shot a bit more, but whatevs.
MOENing 03-31-2008, 09:18 PM what about the 6th?
Ducksforcup 03-31-2008, 10:27 PM what about the 6th?
It was traded in the Shane Hindy trade.
duckyman 03-31-2008, 10:31 PM Josh Bailey or Boedker, I don't want Meyers, just because hes big and can skate I think someone will pick him top 10 and end up regretting it.
Beach may drop to us and I wouldn't mind us taking achance on him either. Or we could try and trade up to get one of the stud D-men like Bogosian, Schenn, Doughty, Pieteranglo.
The top 15 pick definitely makes the draft more fun.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 03-31-2008, 10:41 PM Considering where the first pick will be, I'm hoping for Michael Del Zotto. Unreal offensive defenseman, which is something we could use. I think he could be a major steal at the point where we pick.
karacter 03-31-2008, 11:15 PM Considering where the first pick will be, I'm hoping for Michael Del Zotto. Unreal offensive defenseman, which is something we could use. I think he could be a major steal at the point where we pick.
will he be there? i have seen some people put him in the top 5 overall defenseman.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 03-31-2008, 11:30 PM will he be there? i have seen some people put him in the top 5 overall defenseman.
He's also projected to go outside of the top 10 unless someone pulls a Thomas Hickey with him. If Edmonton's pick lands in the top 10, which it's just outside of right now, then he should be available.
Let's just hope for a Calgary win tomorrow night and go from there.
Markus078 04-01-2008, 05:39 AM 1st - Del Zotto (Bailey woud be the 2nd choice)
2nd - Jyri Niemi
3rd - Peter Delmas
4th - Adam Henrique
5th - Mike Murphy
Additional Prospect actions:
Sign Brunnstrom
Sign Pesonen
Sign Belesky
Sign Colin Long via FA (don't know if this is possible)
I would be happy with this.
Aceface 04-01-2008, 05:01 PM 1st - Del Zotto (Bailey woud be the 2nd choice)
2nd - Jyri Niemi
3rd - Peter Delmas
4th - Adam Henrique
5th - Mike Murphy
Additional Prospect actions:
Sign Brunnstrom
Sign Pesonen
Sign Belesky
Sign Colin Long via FA (don't know if this is possible)
I would be happy with this.
I believe colin long will be eligable for the 2008 entry draft. I agree about signing the other players though....by the way, why isn't there a profile up for pesonen.....he is still ducks property correct?
BraveSirRobin 04-02-2008, 01:49 AM I would really like to sign Brunnstrom, but I have serious doubts we'd land him.
I was under the impression Pesonen became a free agent last year or so. i think...
Randall Graves* 04-02-2008, 04:20 AM First round-
I think Filatov will fall to us, he's got a very good reputation and wants to be in the NHL. He should not be stereotyped. He will be the best offensive player on the board when we pick.
Colin Wilson makes sense because he's got good size and is good at everything.
We should just go BPA though, we have needs on D and up front.
I think Mitera is going to surprise a lot of people, he was absolutely fantastic this past weekend for the first two rounds of the NCAA hockey tournament. He just gets more physical every time you see him and i'm seeing some offensive upside. He made some passes that he never would've tried a year ago and they set up very good offensive chances. Not saying he's going to be a no.1 defensemen but he has the tools to be an excellent shut down D.
Salcido and DeGray are coming along well, i'm betting Salcido is here next year unless MAB gets signed.
This is a huge draft for us though because 2008 will be a rebuild year unless Scott Niedermayer comes back.
Pepper 04-02-2008, 04:48 AM Pesonen will be UFA july 1st, until then he's Ducks property.
Brunnström won't come to Anaheim, he wants to play for some team with more European approach to the game (Wings, Canucks, Leafs etc).
Kevin Forbes 04-02-2008, 06:43 AM Salcido and DeGray are coming along well, i'm betting Salcido is here next year unless MAB gets signed.
This is a huge draft for us though because 2008 will be a rebuild year unless Scott Niedermayer comes back.
Bergeron already has a contract continuing forward through the 2008-09 season.
Unless significant drastic changes are made, Anaheim will be competitive next season, with or without Niedermayer. Pronger, Getzlaf, Giguere, Pahlsson, Schneider, Bertuzzi, Beauchemin, Ryan...etc. etc. are all signed to be back right now.
ohlfanos 04-02-2008, 07:16 AM there is a goalie here in Owen Sound that Burke was up to see a few times....maybe a second or third round pick...Tyler Beskorowany
Jimgrayson 04-02-2008, 08:38 AM Bergeron already has a contract continuing forward through the 2008-09 season.
Unless significant drastic changes are made, Anaheim will be competitive next season, with or without Niedermayer. Pronger, Getzlaf, Giguere, Pahlsson, Schneider, Bertuzzi, Beauchemin, Ryan...etc. etc. are all signed to be back right now.
i believe the extra year on bergeon's contract is a team option at about $1.5m. i assume we would decline it and try and sign him for cheaper
anyway with the EDM elimination last night they currently sit 10th last in win %. Realistically they will finish there or 11th depending on the 'hawks. 10th gives us a 2.7% chance at 6th, a 91.8% chance at 10th and a 5.5% chance at 11th. maybe not as good as we were hoping for earlier in the season but still very useful.
i'm generally of the opinion that quantity is quite important when drafting due to the unknowns about almost every player but how far do people think we could move up by packaging a 10th and 40th in a deep draft?
karacter 04-02-2008, 01:04 PM i believe the extra year on bergeon's contract is a team option at about $1.5m. i assume we would decline it and try and sign him for cheaper
anyway with the EDM elimination last night they currently sit 10th last in win %. Realistically they will finish there or 11th depending on the 'hawks. 10th gives us a 2.7% chance at 6th, a 91.8% chance at 10th and a 5.5% chance at 11th. maybe not as good as we were hoping for earlier in the season but still very useful.
i'm generally of the opinion that quantity is quite important when drafting due to the unknowns about almost every player but how far do people think we could move up by packaging a 10th and 40th in a deep draft?
i was wondering about trading up. also, if filatov is there doesnt it make sense to draft him and try to pick up a decent D prospect later?
Duck Fan 04-02-2008, 04:57 PM i believe the extra year on bergeon's contract is a team option at about $1.5m. i assume we would decline it and try and sign him for cheaper
anyway with the EDM elimination last night they currently sit 10th last in win %. Realistically they will finish there or 11th depending on the 'hawks. 10th gives us a 2.7% chance at 6th, a 91.8% chance at 10th and a 5.5% chance at 11th. maybe not as good as we were hoping for earlier in the season but still very useful.
i'm generally of the opinion that quantity is quite important when drafting due to the unknowns about almost every player but how far do people think we could move up by packaging a 10th and 40th in a deep draft?
The best scenerio is:
1. Edm loses to Vancouver--Edm will end with 86 points
2. Florida wins both of their games - 87 points
3. Toronto wins last 2 games - 87 points
4. Chicago wins one game and a tie in last 3 games - 87 points
5. Phoenix wins last 3 games - 86 points and tied with EDM w/ identical record
6. CBJ wins last 3 games - 86 points with only 37 wins against EDM with 40 wins
I'm not sure of the tie breaker rules concerning Phoenix and Columbus.
There will be 5 teams with less than 86 points. There will be 3 teams (Edmonton, Phoenix & Columbus with 86 points. Depending upon how this tie situation works out we can possibly be at #6, 7 or 8.
Then again all this can and will change if EDM wins or gets a tie loss against Vancouver. The worst is, if Edmonton beats Vancouver, then all bets are off. The best we can hope for is #10 to 13.
Does anyone know what will happen if there is a tie between the teams. Is it wins, head to head, goals, or any other formula that determines the tie breaker?
ericnut 04-02-2008, 06:37 PM i was wondering about trading up. also, if filatov is there doesnt it make sense to draft him and try to pick up a decent D prospect later?
0.9% chance Burke drafts Filatov.
Aceface 04-02-2008, 07:11 PM The best scenerio is:
1. Edm loses to Vancouver--Edm will end with 86 points
2. Florida wins both of their games - 87 points
3. Toronto wins last 2 games - 87 points
4. Chicago wins one game and a tie in last 3 games - 87 points
5. Phoenix wins last 3 games - 86 points and tied with EDM w/ identical record
6. CBJ wins last 3 games - 86 points with only 37 wins against EDM with 40 wins
I'm not sure of the tie breaker rules concerning Phoenix and Columbus.
There will be 5 teams with less than 86 points. There will be 3 teams (Edmonton, Phoenix & Columbus with 86 points. Depending upon how this tie situation works out we can possibly be at #6, 7 or 8.
Then again all this can and will change if EDM wins or gets a tie loss against Vancouver. The worst is, if Edmonton beats Vancouver, then all bets are off. The best we can hope for is #10 to 13.
Does anyone know what will happen if there is a tie between the teams. Is it wins, head to head, goals, or any other formula that determines the tie breaker?
Thank goodness Vancouver has a lot riding on that game and should play like it's a game 7 in the playoffs.
Randall Graves* 04-02-2008, 09:18 PM 0.9% chance Burke drafts Filatov.
And that would be a mistake.
iHATEbeauch23 04-02-2008, 10:11 PM I agree. It would be stupid to pass up on that kind of talent, even if he is russian
snarktacular 04-02-2008, 11:02 PM I'm not worried that Filatov's Russian so much as I'm worried that he's from Russia... in terms of the transfer agreement. What's the deal with Filatov in terms of his contract in Russia? Is he under contract for next season or beyond? Because I thought the PA or somebody wanted Russian rights to expire in 2 years like every one else's, but that would be bad if there's no transfer agreement and Filatov's signed for 2 years. It would suck to draft a guy and lose him to a redraft/UFA.
TheJoeMan 04-03-2008, 01:34 PM I'm not worried that Filatov's Russian so much as I'm worried that he's from Russia... in terms of the transfer agreement. What's the deal with Filatov in terms of his contract in Russia? Is he under contract for next season or beyond? Because I thought the PA or somebody wanted Russian rights to expire in 2 years like every one else's, but that would be bad if there's no transfer agreement and Filatov's signed for 2 years. It would suck to draft a guy and lose him to a redraft/UFA.
See I feel we are in a great spot in draft Filatov even if he's under contract for a couple more seasons. Whomever we draft we will not need him in any rush. I mean if it's a kid who can contribute let him play but he's a project I have no problem with that. If this kid is as good as people say he is then I'd be stoked if he fell to us. Let him play out his contract in Russia and we'll get him when he's closer to being a man.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 04-03-2008, 01:36 PM Filatov is apparently going to be in NA next season. That certainly adds to the discussion.
snarktacular 04-03-2008, 04:16 PM See I feel we are in a great spot in draft Filatov even if he's under contract for a couple more seasons. Whomever we draft we will not need him in any rush. I mean if it's a kid who can contribute let him play but he's a project I have no problem with that. If this kid is as good as people say he is then I'd be stoked if he fell to us. Let him play out his contract in Russia and we'll get him when he's closer to being a man.
If he had a contract in Russia for 2 years, then his rights would expire after June of the 2nd year. But without a transfer agreement, that would have been the earliest we could sign him. If he has to wait that long, he might decide to wait another couple weeks and go UFA (unless he's put back in the draft? I'm not sure how that works). I would be afraid of us drafting a guy and, in the end, only getting a 2nd round pick as compensation.
Filatov is apparently going to be in NA next season. That certainly adds to the discussion.
It probably detracts from the discussion. As in now that the transfer agreement issues are gone he probably won't drop to our position. Although it's really just talk, he's probably posturing for the draft..
HFboards link for anyone interested. http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=499996
TheJoeMan 04-03-2008, 05:32 PM If he had a contract in Russia for 2 years, then his rights would expire after June of the 2nd year. But without a transfer agreement, that would have been the earliest we could sign him. If he has to wait that long, he might decide to wait another couple weeks and go UFA (unless he's put back in the draft? I'm not sure how that works). I would be afraid of us drafting a guy and, in the end, only getting a 2nd round pick as compensation.
Yeah but I find that unlikely. It isn't in Filatov's best interest to do such a thing. All hockey players want to make it to the NHL and this kid will be no different. I don't know what his contracts like but it may be similar to Cheraponov whose I believe expires this summer. Who knows? He'll probably won't fall to us anyway.
Randall Graves* 04-03-2008, 07:38 PM I'm not worried that Filatov's Russian so much as I'm worried that he's from Russia... in terms of the transfer agreement. What's the deal with Filatov in terms of his contract in Russia? Is he under contract for next season or beyond? Because I thought the PA or somebody wanted Russian rights to expire in 2 years like every one else's, but that would be bad if there's no transfer agreement and Filatov's signed for 2 years. It would suck to draft a guy and lose him to a redraft/UFA.
The thing with Filatov thoughi s he wants to be an NHL'er and doesn't appear to be using Russia as leverage. I certainly hope Burkes stereotypes of Russians does not apply to this guy because he has outstanding talent and from most accounts is a hard worker with good character..
Markus078 04-04-2008, 02:11 AM ... Whomever we draft we will not need him in any rush. ...
That's the point. IMO this is the main reason to draft Del Zotto if he falls to us. His upside valuewise im much higher than of any other player in the draft. The good thing is, that this year there are a lot more ready prospects out there. I mean, Stamkos, Schenn, Bogosian, Doughty, Pietrangelo are for sure NHL ready. Del Zotto is not, he is not even close yet. He will be in 2 or 3 years and that will be great for us. IMO next season we are still set while Salcido will push in. The season after we have Mitera and Mikkelsson pushing and in 3 seasons it will be Del Zotto. I think we own a really good group of D right now and we can just become better. All we need is a top end D prospect and Del Zotto offers exactly this.
All in all I also think that he is a Burke type of player because beside being not the biggest player he still can hit really well and his skillset is tremendously set for the new NHL.
I just can say that I hope he falls to us and we will pic him over Tyler Myers.
Duck Fan 04-04-2008, 11:27 PM Edmonton has 88 points and is tied with Chicago, Vancouver and Buffalo. Edm has played 82 games and the other three have one more gsme to play. If it stays tied how is Edmonton's draft pick determined with these three other teams?
It looks like our pick will be between 10 and 13.
Superintendent 04-04-2008, 11:50 PM Edmonton has 88 points and is tied with Chicago, Vancouver and Buffalo. Edm has played 82 games and the other three have one more gsme to play. If it stays tied how is Edmonton's draft pick determined with these three other teams?
It looks like our pick will be between 10 and 13.
Because the Oilers have the least amount of OT/SO losses amongst this group, we win any tiebreaker between these three other teams because we have more wins than they do. If CHI/VAN/BUF gain a point in their final games, we give you the 10th overall pick, for every team that loses in regulation during their final game, that pick goes down by 1.
Pwnasaurus 04-05-2008, 12:03 AM Because the Oilers have the least amount of OT/SO losses amongst this group, we win any tiebreaker between these three other teams because we have more wins than they do. If CHI/VAN/BUF gain a point in their final games, we give you the 10th overall pick, for every team that loses in regulation during their final game, that pick goes down by 1.
Absolutely true. On that note...go Blacknucksabes!
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