Playoff spot Clinched

rmarion
03-23-2008, 11:21 AM
Playoff spot clinched!!! :handclap:

Glad that’s out of the way……:yo:

Your the coach what would you do from here on out????

I would give my 4th liners more time

Less Ice time for the guns…..


Goalie’s……..gotta keep them HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!


What would you do???

bleuer
03-23-2008, 01:03 PM
try to keep home ice advantage for the 1st round...

Heist
03-23-2008, 01:13 PM
Will Perry be ready in time for the playoffs for the Ducks?

Edit: And congratulations too.

S.S. Giggy
03-23-2008, 01:27 PM
Yeah, relax a bit but try to keep home ice for the 1st round. From there on, however, given our Road record this year, I'm hoping that we don't go beyond 6 games.

Static
03-23-2008, 01:34 PM
Will Perry be ready in time for the playoffs for the Ducks?

Edit: And congratulations too.

He will probably miss the first round, depending on how long it goes.

Ducksforcup
03-23-2008, 02:39 PM
WOOHOO! With all of these injuries, even this wasn't a guarantee.

LETS GO DUCKS! :yo:

EDIT: I don't think we have clinched yet. When we get one more point or Nashville doesn't gain all of their points possible, then we will clinch. :)

MOENing
03-23-2008, 03:42 PM
We haven't clinched anything.

theShiba
03-23-2008, 03:43 PM
Unjinx Unjinx Unjinx Unjinx Unjinx Unjinx Unjinx.

rmarion
03-23-2008, 03:50 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/standings


Playoff spot clinched as per foxsports

Duckstudd269
03-23-2008, 04:25 PM
The Ducks shouldn't do anything much different with a few exceptions. Stop having any defensemen play more then 24 minutes a game, and don't rush the injured players back into the lineup (getzlaf, jiggy, etc).

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-23-2008, 04:29 PM
WOOHOO! With all of these injuries, even this wasn't a guarantee.

LETS GO DUCKS! :yo:

EDIT: I don't think we have clinched yet. When we get one more point or Nashville doesn't gain all of their points possible, then we will clinch. :)
We won the season series with Nashville. I think he's right.

Furious George
03-23-2008, 04:31 PM
Number 9 Nashville could finish with 94 points with 6 straight wins to finish the season. That would tie them with Anaheim. Neither team can claim the first or second tie breakers, but Anaheim takes the third by winning 3 of their 4 games against the Preds so Anaheim indeed has clinched a playoff spot.

Jimgrayson
03-23-2008, 04:38 PM
As per http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western.html the guy ran 100,000,000 simulations of the remaining games this season. we miss the playoffs in 1 simulation. it's pretty safe to assume we are in i would say.

also it says that we finished 4th 81% of the time which is quite encouraging

Benny Lava
03-23-2008, 04:45 PM
As per http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western.html the guy ran 100,000,000 simulations of the remaining games this season. we miss the playoffs in 1 simulation. it's pretty safe to assume we are in i would say.

According to that we have a 99.999999% chance of making the playoffs. But this thread means that somehow we will find that .0000001% and finish 9th.

Jimgrayson
03-23-2008, 04:50 PM
According to that we have a 99.999999% chance of making the playoffs. But this thread means that somehow we will find that .0000001% and finish 9th.

the thread will have achieved something special in that case. i wouldn't be happy about it. but special none the less

MOENing
03-23-2008, 04:58 PM
As per http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western.html the guy ran 100,000,000 simulations of the remaining games this season. we miss the playoffs in 1 simulation. it's pretty safe to assume we are in i would say.

also it says that we finished 4th 81% of the time which is quite encouraging

Exactly my point it's like lysol has to say them kill 99.99% of germs cause there is no possible way to kille everything. Just like we haven't clicnched anything.

snarktacular
03-23-2008, 05:09 PM
Number 9 Nashville could finish with 94 points with 6 straight wins to finish the season. That would tie them with Anaheim. Neither team can claim the first or second tie breakers, but Anaheim takes the third by winning 3 of their 4 games against the Preds so Anaheim indeed has clinched a playoff spot.
Listen to this guy. I think it's clinched. It's not 99.9%, it's 100%.

Although interestingly enough, NHL.com does not have the little X by our name.

If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:
1. The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).
2. The greater number of games won.
3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
4. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season.

edit: hmm. The Register seems to think otherwise.Selanne scored both Ducks goals, giving him 10 in the 21 games he has played, a stretch in which the Ducks have gone 16-4-1 to push their overall record to 43-26-8 and move to one point of clinching a Stanley Cup playoff berth. Any point gained by the Ducks or lost by the Nashville Predators, who are in ninth place in the NHL's Western Conference, will give the Ducks a third consecutive postseason bid.
But really I don't understand how that can be true. Ducks and Preds would both have 94 points and 43 wins. So by the tie-breaking procedure I pasted from the NHL.com site, the Ducks should get 8th based on their 6 points to 2 points gained in the head-to-head matchup.

Michael Scofield
03-23-2008, 05:25 PM
i think we've clinched because Nashville can get equal on points, and wins, but we've won the season series so it would be impossible for any tie-breaking procedure to come into play

kendroberts
03-23-2008, 06:32 PM
That all makes sense. But what if it is a 3 way tie?

Furious George
03-23-2008, 06:53 PM
That all makes sense. But what if it is a 3 way tie?

It could only be a tie with a team currently in the top 8, meaning you've clinched a spot, since Edmonton has no chance to get to 94 points.

kendroberts
03-23-2008, 06:58 PM
Good, what if the 7th, 8th, and 9th all had 94 points, and somehow the Ducks loose the 3 way tiebreaker and fall to 9th?

Benny Lava
03-23-2008, 07:38 PM
Good, what if the 7th, 8th, and 9th all had 94 points, and somehow the Ducks loose the 3 way tiebreaker and fall to 9th?

Well, then they'd fall into 9th place, wouldn't they? That's technically not possible because one of the teams the Ducks would be tied with would have to be Nashville, and the Ducks have already won the season series against Nashville. So the Ducks are basically guaranteed at least 8th in the West, no matter what.

sammyp
03-23-2008, 08:07 PM
According to that we have a 99.999999% chance of making the playoffs. But this thread means that somehow we will find that .0000001% and finish 9th.

It is not possible for the Ducks to miss the playoffs, period. There are no scenarios where Anaheim will finish any lower than 8th in the West. Nashville is the only team capable of amassing 94 points, but the Ducks hold the tiebreaker between those two teams.

Benny Lava
03-23-2008, 08:17 PM
It is not possible for the Ducks to miss the playoffs, period. There are no scenarios where Anaheim will finish any lower than 8th in the West. Nashville is the only team capable of amassing 94 points, but the Ducks hold the tiebreaker between those two teams.

Sarcasm, my dear friend.

sammyp
03-23-2008, 08:45 PM
Sarcasm, my dear friend.

Haha, I didn't even mean to quote you. Sorry bout that.

kendroberts
03-23-2008, 09:34 PM
It is not possible for the Ducks to miss the playoffs, period. There are no scenarios where Anaheim will finish any lower than 8th in the West. Nashville is the only team capable of amassing 94 points, but the Ducks hold the tiebreaker between those two teams.

sammyp, please be patient with me, I'm not a troll. I'm the guy who came up with the 1 in 100 million number so I'm very interested to know if you are correct because that means there is a bug in my code.

Here is why I think it is (was?) possible for the Ducks to miss the playoffs.
Nashville wins out: 94 points.
Anaheim loses out: 94 points.
1 or more other teams currently between Anaheim and Nashville happens to also end up with 94 points. (teams currently in the top 8)
So it is not just Nashville and Anaheim tied (which Anaheim wins), but a 3 or more way tie. Then the tiebreakers work on all the teams as a whole, like who has the best combined record between the games played between the entire tied group. And Nashville slips into the top 8 and Anaheim drops to 9th.

Am I crazy?
thanks

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-23-2008, 11:53 PM
Even if another team were to wind up tied with us, that team could only come from the teams who are already in the playoffs. That team may or may not win a tiebreaker with Nashville, but that's their problem, not ours.

It is no longer possible for 8 teams to finish above us. We're in.

Randall Graves*
03-24-2008, 12:21 AM
If I were the coach?

Less crappy line combos.(Seriously Kunitz/Weight/Marchant was brilliant :sarcasm: )

sammyp
03-24-2008, 12:36 AM
Even if another team were to wind up tied with us, that team could only come from the teams who are already in the playoffs. That team may or may not win a tiebreaker with Nashville, but that's their problem, not ours.

Correct. Quoted for truth.

snarktacular
03-24-2008, 02:01 AM
OK I love me a challenging hypothetical question, so I'll take a stab at it.

What I think kenD is saying (the D to distinguish from ken, or we could call ken "keb" since I always think his name is kebnormal) is that we could have a 3 way tie Nashville, us, and team X. All 3 teams would have to have 43 wins or whatever we have so it goes to tiebreaker 3. Then we go by this If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.

So say team X is in the central division. We play team X 4 times, and Nashville 4 times. We've won 6/8 points from Nashville, but say team X pwns us (0/8). We've won 6/16 points = .375.

Now say Nasville has 2/8 against us, and 8/16 against team X. Nashville has 10/24 = .417.

Team X has won 8/8 against us, and 8/16 against Nashville. Team X thus has 16/24 = .667.

In that scenario, we'd get knocked out because Nashville did well against team X and team X did well against us.

I'm too lazy to try to test if team 5-8 can combine with Nashville to edge us out. Someone's free to do so. It'd involve finding the season series of those 4 teams against us and Nashville.

But long story short, maybe we haven't clinched?

lux_interior
03-24-2008, 02:06 AM
It's a moot point as far as I'm concerned. We will get at least one point in one of our 5 remaining games. Plus I'm pretty sure Nashville will not go 6-0 down the stretch. I'm more concerned about getting home ice, although we are 5 points ahead of Dallas.

snarktacular
03-24-2008, 02:08 AM
It's a moot point as far as I'm concerned. We will get at least one point in one of our 5 remaining games. Plus I'm pretty sure Nashville will not go 6-0 down the stretch. I'm more concerned about getting home ice, although we are 5 points ahead of Dallas.
Ah but it isn't a moot point in terms of karma and the playoff avatar thread.

lux_interior
03-24-2008, 02:14 AM
Obscure posts and graphics on a hockey message board have extremely minimal impact on the on ice game.

By extremely minimal, I mean none.

snarktacular
03-24-2008, 02:26 AM
OK I lied, I did 1 team.

Dallas: only 1 more win (has to be against us to keep us pointless) + 3 OTL = 94 points. 12 points against us (4 for us), 2/8 against Nashville. Dallas: 14/24 = .583. Anaheim: 10/24 = .417. Nashville: 2/8+6/8 = .500

There. 1 scenario where we lose out. Proven to not be clinched. It doesn't really matter, and I doubt anyone cares, but I just had to see.

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-24-2008, 02:42 AM
You need therapy.

kendroberts
03-24-2008, 08:07 AM
OK I lied, I did 1 team.

Dallas: only 1 more win (has to be against us to keep us pointless) + 3 OTL = 94 points. 12 points against us (4 for us), 2/8 against Nashville. Dallas: 14/24 = .583. Anaheim: 10/24 = .417. Nashville: 2/8+6/8 = .500

There. 1 scenario where we lose out. Proven to not be clinched. It doesn't really matter, and I doubt anyone cares, but I just had to see.

You need therapy.

Thanks obobo23. I might have needed therapy if my site was misleading folks. :)

rmarion
03-24-2008, 11:53 AM
no more Foxsport for me.................:banghead:

I will be bannished forever, if that .00001 % senerio comes true.....:help:

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-24-2008, 03:35 PM
Thanks obobo23. I might have needed therapy if my site was misleading folks. :)
Cool site, btw.

theShiba
03-24-2008, 05:16 PM
Obscure posts and graphics on a hockey message board have extremely minimal impact on the on ice game.

By extremely minimal, I mean none.

Lux, you know for a fact that the only reason the Ducks have the capacity to win a lose games starts right here on HF.

Skill doesn't win hockey games. Karma and Luck DO..... :sarcasm:

rmarion
03-27-2008, 12:58 AM
NOW!!!!!!!!!:yo:

:handclap::handclap::handclap::handclap:

Ducksforcup
03-27-2008, 01:00 AM
DUCKS====CLINCHEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!! :yo: :yo: :yo:

Your 2007-2008 Anaheim Ducks are going to the STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS!!! :yo::yo::yo: