Is Perry expandable since he's going to ask for alot of $$$ this summer ???

Corey Perry becomes RFA at the end of the year and with the probable loss of Doug Weight at center, you guys would be one center short. Bobby Ryan might be the answer to replace Perry at right wing if he is dealt. I personnally think that one of your high priced d-men (Schneider) will get traded to make room for Perry's contract but if that's not the case, do you guys think that BB will make some kind of move to acquire a young, low price centermen to play on the 2nd line ??? Would this be enough for Perry...

To Anaheim

Travis Zajac
Andy Greene
mid-round pick

Vs

To New Jersey

Corey Perry

Thanks :thumbu:

Corey Perry becomes RFA at the end of the year and with the probable loss of Doug Weight at center, you guys would be one center short. Bobby Ryan might be the answer to replace Perry at right wing if he is dealt. I personnally think that one of your high priced d-men (Schneider) will get traded to make room for Perry's contract but if that's not the case, do you guys think that BB will make some kind of move to acquire a young, low price centermen to play on the 2nd line ??? Would this be enough for Perry...

To Anaheim

Travis Zajac
Andy Greene
mid-round pick

Vs

To New Jersey

Corey Perry

Thanks :thumbu:

You honestly think the Ducks might lose Perry? Burke will have him locked up before the RFA period.

There are many reason why CP is likely staying put. But if the ducks were to move him they would need a lot goal scoring power in return for CP (CP is the leading goal scorer on the team), this trade wouldn't make that happen.

Corey Perry becomes RFA at the end of the year and with the probable loss of Doug Weight at center, you guys would be one center short. Bobby Ryan might be the answer to replace Perry at right wing if he is dealt. I personnally think that one of your high priced d-men (Schneider) will get traded to make room for Perry's contract but if that's not the case, do you guys think that BB will make some kind of move to acquire a young, low price centermen to play on the 2nd line ??? Would this be enough for Perry...

To Anaheim

Travis Zajac
Andy Greene
mid-round pick

Vs

To New Jersey

Corey Perry

Thanks :thumbu:

we trade at draft time i'm guessing for just rights. We get those people and then we secretly ask corey perry to decline all claims from you and sign back sounds perfect NOW THATS A SCAM*


*Said statement if wrong is due to my little knowledge of the Cba

You honestly think the Ducks might lose Perry? Burke will have him locked up before the RFA period.

why not ??? You guys are almost above the cap, Perry will demand alot of $$$ and with Bobby Ryan waiting for a spot next year, wouldn't you guys consider trading him for a centermen ??? It's not my team, but having Getzlaf as my #1 would be the ***** but having R.Niedermayer, Pahlsson, Sutherby or Marchand as my 2nd center would make me want to scream for... :help:

I highly doubt the Ducks get rid of Perry. He is a very good player, very young, and if I remember right leading your team in goals. The Ducks will lose Teemu and Nieds freeing up some space and I am sure there are other players that are more expendable and would much more likely be gone instead of Perry. Bertuzzi for one. (Although that will be difficult because of the $ and injury problems) I don't see Perry going anywhere for several years. He and Getzlaf are the Ducks future on which to build around. The only way he goes somewhere, is for a superstar/blockbuster trade.

why not ??? You guys are almost above the cap, Perry will demand alot of $$$ and with Bobby Ryan waiting for a spot next year, wouldn't you guys consider trading him for a centermen ??? It's not my team, but having Getzlaf as my #1 would be the ***** but having R.Niedermayer, Pahlsson, Sutherby or Marchand as my 2nd center would make me want to scream for... :help:

And Burke would allow Pahlsson, Sutherby, or Marchant to be his 2nd line center? No. Won't be hard to solve that problem... float around Edmonton's 2nd and a defenseman. Perry will sign for 3.5-4.5 million for four plus years and Bobby Ryan will play on the second line.

why not ??? You guys are almost above the cap, Perry will demand alot of $$$ and with Bobby Ryan waiting for a spot next year, wouldn't you guys consider trading him for a centermen ??? It's not my team, but having Getzlaf as my #1 would be the ***** but having R.Niedermayer, Pahlsson, Sutherby or Marchand as my 2nd center would make me want to scream for... :help:

not Ryan but the pick maybe. we'll then just have a lack of wingers if we traded him. he is the shizzle

he better not, i would much rather burke trade the edm 1st than let CP go. no way burke lets this happen unless he is going to be the gm of the team Perry signs with and once again he better not.

If we did trade him, I don't think that would do it.

he may be expendable but i doubt very much whether he is expandable

seriously he's going nowhere. burke loves him. getzlaf loves him. if we need another centre we have a good bargaining chip in the EDM pick (though i'd prefer if we kept it) over letting corey go

The Ducks will lose Teemu and Nieds freeing up some space and I am sure there are other players that are more expendable and would much more likely be gone instead of Perry.

Duck fans, please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=ANA, Niedermayer is still on the teams payroll for next year.

I'm not saying that Burke will trade away Perry because he sucks... what I'm saying is that he might try to move one of his key assets knowing he'll demand alot of $$$ for a player of the same age with good potential and a cheap contract. It's all about bussiness and nothing to do regarding Perry's talent.

I understand your p.o.v because if Perry was on my team I wouldn't want Lou trading him away either but sometimes your gonna have to give up a young talented player that will demand alot of your cap space just to stay under the bar.

Hope you guys resign him but if you don't he better come our way :naughty:

Duck fans, please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=ANA, Niedermayer is still on the teams payroll for next year.

I'm not saying that Burke will trade away Perry because he sucks... what I'm saying is that he might try to move one of his key assets knowing he'll demand alot of $$$ for a player of the same age with good potential and a cheap contract. It's all about bussiness and nothing to do regarding Perry's talent.

I understand your p.o.v because if Perry was on my team I wouldn't want Lou trading him away either but sometimes your gonna have to give up a young talented player that will demand alot of your cap space just to stay under the bar.

Hope you guys resign him but if you don't he better come our way :naughty:

we are still on the hook for niedermayers cap hit yes. if he retires after this seasonthen we are no longer liable for that cap hit, opening up $6.75m in space. If he doesn't retire, you have to figure that schneider is probably giong to be traded, and his value may wel get us a second line centre.

i honestly can't see perry going short of a fall out with the owners or burke or him wanting some obscene money

why do people think he is gonna demand a lot of money, IMO he deserves anywhere from 3.5 - 4.5 million to us but in the FA market i think he is worth much more like around 6 million easy just looking at some absurd contracts when you consider his age and his potentia.

The salary cap is going up by 3 million next season. We'll be fine capwise.

Give him a big yank and find out.

You seem to be overlooking the fact that Teemu will probably not be playing next year, and trading Perry would leave us with an unproven rookie as our only offensive RW. That scares me more than having a crappy 2nd line center.

if he eats some fatty foods he can become expandable

Actually, I like Ryan Carter trying out for that 2nd line center position. He's produced on every line he's been on like Koonie has for this org. I don't see Cory going anywhere. He can't leave his twin!

i hope perry is doing some bench press and one legged squates while he is out.

the salary cap may go up but i wouldn't be suprised if we didn't keep pace. the owners have been generous thus far but i'm not sure how far that will extend.

i would expect us to sign perry at around 4.5 over 4 years. feeling more like 4.3 per now but was more like 4.7 before the injury. depends on his performance upon return i guess but within that range i would expect.

any less and burke seems more of a genius

The trade you are proposing needs to replace what we are losing from Perry: scoring. He leads this team in goals, if we are going to trade away Perry we expect someone else that can replace his production somehow, or at least get a prospect with the potential to.

The trade you are proposing needs to replace what we are losing from Perry: scoring. He leads this team in goals, if we are going to trade away Perry we expect someone else that can replace his production somehow, or at least get a prospect with the potential to.

I understand your p.o.v. but if you're trading away Corey Perry because the Ducks might be in a thight situation cap wise, I don't think that acquiring another young player with the same kind of stats would solve your problem.

If a team is in "trouble" cap wise, they're not going to get equal value for the player they're trading away. It's logical and that's just the way it is. Did Tampa get something that equals the talent of a Brad Richards... NO. Other GM's around the league are all aware of every teams situation and there isn't one GM out there that would be stupid enough to help out another team in that regard.

I understand your p.o.v. but if you're trading away Corey Perry because the Ducks might be in a thight situation cap wise, I don't think that acquiring another young player with the same kind of stats would solve your problem.

If a team is in "trouble" cap wise, they're not going to get equal value for the player they're trading away. It's logical and that's just the way it is. Did Tampa get something that equals the talent of a Brad Richards... NO. Other GM's around the league are all aware of every teams situation and there isn't one GM out there that would be stupid enough to help out another team in that regard.

There's a huge difference between being forced to trade a player for cap reasons (a la Andy Mac) and Perry's situation. In this instance, the best case scenario is re-signing him for ~$4 million a year, and the worst case scenario is him accepting an offer sheet and the Ducks getting two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd from whoever offers. There's no reason for Burke to trade Perry unless he's getting equal value in return.

I understand your p.o.v. but if you're trading away Corey Perry because the Ducks might be in a thight situation cap wise, I don't think that acquiring another young player with the same kind of stats would solve your problem.

If a team is in "trouble" cap wise, they're not going to get equal value for the player they're trading away. It's logical and that's just the way it is. Did Tampa get something that equals the talent of a Brad Richards... NO. Other GM's around the league are all aware of every teams situation and there isn't one GM out there that would be stupid enough to help out another team in that regard.
Which is exactly why guys like Schneider, Marchant, Niedermayer, Bertuzzi, etc will be moved well before Perry.

Oh, and as for expandable... some of us do call Perry "Gumby." So I'd say, yes, yes he is expandable.

Waive Bertuzzi. Problem solved.

I understand your p.o.v. but if you're trading away Corey Perry because the Ducks might be in a thight situation cap wise, I don't think that acquiring another young player with the same kind of stats would solve your problem.

If a team is in "trouble" cap wise, they're not going to get equal value for the player they're trading away. It's logical and that's just the way it is. Did Tampa get something that equals the talent of a Brad Richards... NO. Other GM's around the league are all aware of every teams situation and there isn't one GM out there that would be stupid enough to help out another team in that regard.

I don't think you understand the situation, nor are you reading the previous posts.

There are many ways out of this "cap trouble" you speak of. We may not get equal value for trading away a Schnieder, but it still remedies the situation involving freeing up room to sign Perry. Also much of this is contingent on Scotty Nieds deciding his future. If he stays we have to make a deal. If he retires we don't.

On top of that NJ and Anaheim do not make great trading partners in this situation. You simply don't have what we would need if we were forced to deal away Perry.

I don't understand why you asked the question and then when you didn't like the answer, told us we were wrong. I think us Duck fans know our team cap situation a bit better than you.

The Perry situation this summer is really interest. It all depends on what SNieds is doing. If he retires the money is there to resign Perry longterm ( I hope so !!!!), but if he honours his contract then Burke has a a lot of work to do.

Yes we have options to trade players but we must be realistic: No other GM is doing the Ducks a flavour and take guys like Marchant, RNieds or Bertuzzi to solve Burkes Cap Problems. If we want to deal these players we have to sweeten the pot with high picks or preospects, and this is something I wouldn ` t do.
I see the same situation in a Schneider Trade. At the beginnung of the season no one trade for a 39 year old defender an his 5,7 Mill. contract. Sorry but i don`t see this happening.

So what does this mean:

Scenario 1: Burke must trade Perry. We lost our best goal scorer and must get a real overpayment from a other GM. When every GM knows we are in Cap trouble how do you start a bidding war ?

Scenario 2: SNieds retires but we didn `t agree on a new contract with Perry . Perry only signs a contract in the same range like the other players of his caliber ( Getzlaf, Richards ... ) 5 Mio. p. year or more is realistic.

Scenario 3: Perry signs an offer sheet. If this happen I could see Burke is matching in the range of 5,5 Mio. Every higher offer sheet and Burke has to taken the picks!!


So worst case Scenario we are trading Perry and get no value in return or best case hoping for an offer sheet a la Vanek, get 4 first round picks and the rebuilding process starts one year earlier!!!

If we must loose Perry i hope for 4 first rounders!!!!

The Perry situation this summer is really interest. It all depends on what SNieds is doing. If he retires the money is there to resign Perry longterm ( I hope so !!!!), but if he honours his contract then Burke has a a lot of work to do.

Yes we have options to trade players but we must be realistic: No other GM is doing the Ducks a flavour and take guys like Marchant, RNieds or Bertuzzi to solve Burkes Cap Problems. If we want to deal these players we have to sweeten the pot with high picks or preospects, and this is something I wouldn ` t do. I see the same situation in a Schneider Trade. At the beginnung of the season no one trade for a 39 year old defender an his 5,7 Mill. contract. Sorry but i don`t see this happening.



I think you are way off on this. RNeids, Bertuzzi and Schneider all will have one year left on their contract next season. I am not saying we would get a lot for any one of them, but any team that would trade for them wouldn't have to worry about any long term commitment as their salary would come off the books after that season.

Where teams typically get in to trouble is when they are stuck with a high contract for multiple years.

I think you are way off on this. RNeids, Bertuzzi and Schneider all will have one year left on their contract next season. I am not saying we would get a lot for any one of them, but any team that would trade for them wouldn't have to worry about any long term commitment as their salary would come off the books after that season.


If I'm a GM of some other club I'd take Rob Niedermayer for 2nd or 3rd round pick in a heart beat. Probably Schneider too, depending on my need at defense. Marchant for 'futures' would be plausible, I'd definitely consider it. The only guy I wouldn't want is Bertuzzi.

I don't see any Cap-gun to Burke's head forcing him to trade Perry.

I think you are way off on this. RNeids, Bertuzzi and Schneider all will have one year left on their contract next season. I am not saying we would get a lot for any one of them, but any team that would trade for them wouldn't have to worry about any long term commitment as their salary would come off the books after that season.

Where teams typically get in to trouble is when they are stuck with a high contract for multiple years.
I was going to post a response to diehardduck's post, but you've pretty much said it all.

I would like to add, though, that the 2 best times to trade those guys are at the trade deadline and on like July 4th (after a wave or two of UFA signings). Probably in that order. Unfortunately, if Scotty stays we might have to deal someone around draft time. That may be the 3rd best time to deal the vets, but it's a pretty distant 3rd. Trade value might suffer as a result.

Duck fans, please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=ANA, Niedermayer is still on the teams payroll for next year.

I'm not saying that Burke will trade away Perry because he sucks... what I'm saying is that he might try to move one of his key assets knowing he'll demand alot of $$$ for a player of the same age with good potential and a cheap contract. It's all about bussiness and nothing to do regarding Perry's talent.

I understand your p.o.v because if Perry was on my team I wouldn't want Lou trading him away either but sometimes your gonna have to give up a young talented player that will demand alot of your cap space just to stay under the bar.

Hope you guys resign him but if you don't he better come our way :naughty:

According to Niedermayer, this will be his last year. Burke will sign Perry before the RFA period. Perry will not get as much as you expect... 3.5-4.5 million max. It's almost laughable that you think Burke would trade Perry before he traded Schneider, Bertuzzi, or Kunitz. IMO, Schneider is the only one who has a chance of being traded in the offseason.

Once again, he will be resigned by the Ducks... not even a question.

Is Corey Perry expendable? Absolutely not. He's the best winger we've brought up through the draft since Kariya. He might be traded only because Burkie won't lose him to an offer sheet. It'd be a preemptive move to not go through the whole Penner thing again. If Burkie doesn't sign him to a contract that he feels just than he might trade him. Corey getting hurt helps though. But he's still going to ask for close to what Getzy got. Considering the seriousness of his injury I say he holds out (not literally holds out) for a lot in case a flukey injury like that happens again. Don't know if anyone will give him an offer sheet but I really don't think Burkie will want to find out if he can't get him to reasonable terms. I hope he's not traded be it's definitely a possibility. Depending especially what Scotty and Teemu do.

I'm pretty sure Burke would rather be able to lock perry down long term (5 years maybe) than have Nieds for one more year.

Well, I would at least. I echo the sentiment that this is Nieds' last year.

Is Corey Perry expendable? Absolutely not. He's the best winger we've brought up through the draft since Kariya. He might be traded only because Burkie won't lose him to an offer sheet. It'd be a preemptive move to not go through the whole Penner thing again. If Burkie doesn't sign him to a contract that he feels just than he might trade him. Corey getting hurt helps though. But he's still going to ask for close to what Getzy got. Considering the seriousness of his injury I say he holds out (not literally holds out) for a lot in case a flukey injury like that happens again. Don't know if anyone will give him an offer sheet but I really don't think Burkie will want to find out if he can't get him to reasonable terms. I hope he's not traded be it's definitely a possibility. Depending especially what Scotty and Teemu do.

Not even a possibility. Burke has plenty of time to sign Perry before the RFA period. With that, Perry will be locked up for 4+ years before he can recieve an offer sheet.

I wonder why fans around the league... ponders.

According to Niedermayer, this will be his last year. Burke will sign Perry before the RFA period. Perry will not get as much as you expect... 3.5-4.5 million max. It's almost laughable that you think Burke would trade Perry before he traded Schneider, Bertuzzi, or Kunitz. IMO, Schneider is the only one who has a chance of being traded in the offseason.

Once again, he will be resigned by the Ducks... not even a question.
Really? I'm not aware of him ever saying anything publicly either way.

Not even a possibility. Burke has plenty of time to sign Perry before the RFA period. With that, Perry will be locked up for 4+ years before he can recieve an offer sheet.

I wonder why fans around the league... ponders.

Of course it's a possibility. Until he is signed it's a possibility. If Perry demands a contract similar to Getzy's it'll be very hard for Burke to re-sign with or without Scotty retiring. If it was such a sure thing he'd be signed by now. If Perry listens to his agent at all he'll wait until after July 1st to sign any kind of deal. Perry has the opportunity to make a lot of money this summer and he's going to achieve it. Whether it's by the Ducks or not is a whole other problem.

Really? I'm not aware of him ever saying anything publicly either way.

You better start getting used to Ericnut's absolute statements, the guy talks like if he was Burke himself.

Of course it's a possibility. Until he is signed it's a possibility. If Perry demands a contract similar to Getzy's it'll be very hard for Burke to re-sign with or without Scotty retiring. If it was such a sure thing he'd be signed by now. If Perry listens to his agent at all he'll wait until after July 1st to sign any kind of deal. Perry has the opportunity to make a lot of money this summer and he's going to achieve it. Whether it's by the Ducks or not is a whole other problem.
Even if Perry goes for less than what pretty much everyone expects, we probably couldn't sign him now. By my (admittedly unofficial and rough) calculations, we had a little over 3 million in tagging room. I'm pretty sure Perry needs more than that. And even if he wanted to sign for only 3 mill, I think we couldn't use all 3 for him, I believe we have to save money for qualifying offers. So I don't think his not signing yet really means anything.

But yeah, there is a definite possibility that Perry will be moved. Even if I think the chances are pretty slim.

You better start getting used to Ericnut's absolute statements, the guy talks like if he was Burke himself.

lol eric's a clown, he always makes me laugh.

Anyway, i think schneider is as good as gone if scotty comes back, unless burke somehow can figure out the cap in a way that i at least cannot. It's not like schneidr is getting worse with age either, he is arguably our 3rd best defenseman on the team, and 2nd best right now. he would be on the top 2 pairings on the majority of NHL teams, and i don't see that changing from next year. If you're a team like Phoenix or Washington for example, he will do wonders with the younger players can help you make a playoff run next season, and then he is off the books after that or he might resign for cheap to stay with the team, you never know.

anyone is expandable if the price is right.

You better start getting used to Ericnut's absolute statements, the guy talks like if he was Burke himself.
Ha. I was wondering if I'd missed something and just wanted to ask.

And besides, eric did put "IMO" in that post. Maybe he had finally learned to qualify statements?
anyone is expandable if the price is right.
But this guy did it for free?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/88/FFReedRichards.JPG/250px-FFReedRichards.JPG

I agree with obobo23. The timing of the resigning of perry could be a problem.

We have a lot of players who have only year left at their contracts. R.Nieds, Pahlson, Marchant, Schneider, Bertuzzi, O `Donnell, Beauch,. All these players a tradebale, at the deadline 2009 with most value. If we get the same performance from the ducks like we did this season until SNieds returns mid December, then we have a problem to get into the playoffs 2009. If this happens we can expect a firesale at the trading deadline 2009, perhaps a complete overhoul of the roster. The problem I see nobody is trading for these guys between 15.06.2008 and the beginning of the ufa-period 1.7.2008. Look at the Bryzgalov fiasco. A really good player with a low salary and we must waive him to get him off the books? Perry must be resigned at 30.06.2008 or burke is in danger for another offer-sheet.

If we must loose perry because we are have cap problems, then I prefer an offer sheet with 4 first rounders more then a trade where we didn´t get the value in return.

Well if we must loose Perry then only of the trading partner is one of the last 5 teams. LA is out. That leaves Tampa, Atlanta, NYI and StL.

As someone said before. They will have to overpay!

So that leaves me just at Erik Johnson + 1st from the Blues for Perry.

I agree with obobo23. The timing of the resigning of perry could be a problem.

We have a lot of players who have only year left at their contracts. R.Nieds, Pahlson, Marchant, Schneider, Bertuzzi, O `Donnell, Beauch,. All these players a tradebale, at the deadline 2009 with most value. If we get the same performance from the ducks like we did this season until SNieds returns mid December, then we have a problem to get into the playoffs 2009. If this happens we can expect a firesale at the trading deadline 2009, perhaps a complete overhoul of the roster. The problem I see nobody is trading for these guys between 15.06.2008 and the beginning of the ufa-period 1.7.2008. Look at the Bryzgalov fiasco. A really good player with a low salary and we must waive him to get him off the books? Perry must be resigned at 30.06.2008 or burke is in danger for another offer-sheet.

If we must loose perry because we are have cap problems, then I prefer an offer sheet with 4 first rounders more then a trade where we didn´t get the value in return.
You're probably not getting 4 first rounders for Perry. The current threshold is 5.9 million, and it'll increase with the "average league salary." The average league salary should increase roughly with the cap (slightly less), so if the cap increases to 54 million, that means new new 4x1st round compensation is 6.42 million.

If we lose Perry to an offer sheet we will probably get 2 firsts, 2nd, 3rd. This should be ~5.13-6.42 million.

Didn't Henrik Lundqvist sign a cheap one-year deal last summer to stay with the Rangers on the promise that they would sign him for a more fair market price long-term this year?

I don't expect Perry to be so accommodating, and he has no reason to be. But that would be the perfect situation for us, assuming Scotty wants to stay and if Burke doesn't relish having to dismantle parts of the team to make room for Perry.

Sigh... we can dream, can't we?

During the off-season, any team can exceed the cap by 10% provided they are back under the cap by the end of training camp. Perry will be signed ASAP with this additional cap space (provided he is willing to negotiate unlike Penner who wanted to wait for offers). Then Burke has the rest of the summer to work out any trades required to keep the team under the cap.

So that leaves me just at Erik Johnson + 1st from the Blues for Perry.

I'd do that in .0001 seconds. That's a huge steal.

So that leaves me just at Erik Johnson + 1st from the Blues for Perry.

Jesus, pigs will fly...

During the off-season, any team can exceed the cap by 10% provided they are back under the cap by the end of training camp. Perry will be signed ASAP with this additional cap space (provided he is willing to negotiate unlike Penner who wanted to wait for offers). Then Burke has the rest of the summer to work out any trades required to keep the team under the cap.
But that extra 10% only starts on July 1st. If Burke wants to prevent any possibility of an OS, he'd have to trade someone before July and re-sign Perry with the tagging room of 50.3 million. He also can't use the extra 10% to qualify our RFAs, a number of which the team really should keep (Carter, Hiller, Miller, Perry, Sutherby?, Ebbett?, Platt?).

On the other hand, I a) still doubt there is much of an OS risk, I just don't see it as a viable way to acquire talent and b) even if there is an OS or two, I think it'll happen well after July 1st, after teams have already tried UFA. So the extra 10% could be useful.

As someone said before. They will have to overpay!

So that leaves me just at Erik Johnson + 1st from the Blues for Perry.
Yeah that's some overpayment alright. I'd consider Johnson alone for Perry a huge coup.

If we must loose perry because we are have cap problems, then I prefer an offer sheet with 4 first rounders more then a trade where we didn´t get the value in return.

Oh I hate this line of thinking. Losing your top goal scorer for draft picks, willingly, is ludicrous. We lucked out with the Penner fiasco not biting us in the ass because Teemu happen to have come back. We won't have such a luxury if that happens with Perry unless Bobby Ryan suddenly turns into either a 30 goal scorer and/or a 60 point producer by next season. If Corey Perry moves to a new team next season it has to be for a roster player at least. I mean we aren't even going to reap the benefits of the Penner signing as far as the first rounder goes for probably two years. So mark my words, if Perry is lost it will be via trade. Burke will not be burned again by this type of deal. No way.

Waive Bertuzzi. Problem solved.

is bertuzzi that bad?

Yep.