Pronger gets 8 games

Too harsh or did he get off easy?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=232096&hubname=nhl

Proper length. May even benefit Ducks to an extent, as now there will be more ice time to MAB and likes + Pronger gets some rest.

Pretty much what I was expecting. Hfboards to implode shortly.

Too much, I would have agreed with 3-4 or the 8 with a couple of games to Kesler for the assorted crap he was pulling at the same time.

However given the outcry/media/internet circus I'm surprised that 8 was all it turned out to be.

Too much, I would have agreed with 3-4 or the 8 with a couple of games to Kesler for the assorted crap he was pulling at the same time.

However given the outcry/media/internet circus I'm surprised that 8 was all it turned out to be.

LOL...suspend Kesler?? riiiiight...

Simon got 30 games for the same thing..Prongs got off lucky with 8...but its about what i expected.

i think its maybe a bit too much, but am ok with it.

as a Ducks fan though i love it, mainly because of how much more it makes other fans hate Pronger and the Ducks. especially since all the talk has been of a few playoff games suspended and wishful thinking of 30 games. love that its not even the whole season.

Boourns to the Canadian Media and to Colin Campbell. Pronger should not have gotten anything. :shakehead

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So, uh...does this take Pronger out of the running for the Lady Byng?

Boourns to the Canadian Media and to Colin Campbell. Pronger should not have gotten anything. :shakeheadAre you kidding? If it had been reversed, would you say Kesler should have gotten nothing? Simon gets 30, and Pronger gets to rest up for the playoffs...:shakehead

expected in the 8-12 (11 reg and 1st postseason so it looked like they were making it a lot harsher) game range to be honest. and yes simon got 30 for a stomp but the situation was a lot different and he had a previous suspension of 25 games, prongers longest previous record was 4.

not the end of the world from our point of view but i can feel the outrage without even looking at the main board

Are you kidding? If it had been reversed, would you say Kesler should have gotten nothing? Simon gets 30, and Pronger gets to rest up for the playoffs...:shakehead

Please keep the argumentative stance on the main board... the last thing anybody needs is for another one to start here.

Eight games is fine with me. He deserved something, but the double whammy for our friends on the main board is that he'll be back for the playoffs. I'm hoping there's some more silver lining too, maybe now Beauch will take advantage of a chance to step up and start playing better, and now MAB will get some meaningful games under his belt with us in case we end up needing him due to a playoffs injury.

I think he should have stomped Keslers leg in half and beat him with, all while shouting, "Im the Juggernaut *****."

I thought he was going to get 10-12 so 8 is a nice surprise. Now I have to watch MA Bergeron though........

There is a thread for this on the NHL board so I encourage fans of the other 29 teams to post there. I don't want this thread to turn into trolling and flaming.

Too harsh or did he get off easy?

Ultimately the challenge in any situation like this where a player has a "reputation" in the league for playing rough, is that when they are accused of something, they become guilty automatically. Then, in the same situation, the league becomes heavy-handed in the suspensions. Wouldn't it be interesting if the disciplinarian for the league was handed a situation like this and not given the player's name? Basically, if they were handed the scenario and said how many games should a player get for this, I think ultimately it would have been different. That is a problem for players like Pronger and Getzlaf.

Interestingly enough I was at the game taking pictures. I was less than 15 feet from Pronger when this happened, and I do not think he brought his foot down on purpose or to do harm. I believe that the Canadian press and others have blown this out of proportion and thus, the NHL reacts.

I wonder when everybody will start realizing that the pronger and simon incidences were not the exact same thing.

The suspension is lower than I suspected, but in no way was he deserving of 30 games.

Are you kidding? If it had been reversed, would you say Kesler should have gotten nothing? Simon gets 30, and Pronger gets to rest up for the playoffs...:shakehead

Nope. not at all. If Pronger wrapped his legs around Kesler I would fully understand Kesler trying to wiggle and in the process stomp on Pronger calf.

People forget that the Ducks have been on the other end of this, even though when Theo's skate hit Perry it was accidental. We're fully aware of the damage this type of action causes, and it's quite curious that if Pronger put 200+ pounds onto Kesler's leg purposely, that there would be zero damage.

I don't know, I'm not saying Kesler dreamed it or anything, but there are definitely some Pronger physics at work here.

Suspension was deserved, even if all it accomplishes is partially sating the Canadian media.

I was expecting 8-10 max, so no complaints. It just mean we get a rested Pronger come playoff time! :naughty:
The main board is pretty amusing right now! :biglaugh:

like i said on the NHL board. Suter got 4 games for cross checking Kariya in the face in 98. That is a far more worst incident.

There is a thread for this on the NHL board so I encourage fans of the other 29 teams to post there. I don't want this thread to turn into trolling and flaming.

Sounds good

Anyone else think that the league should set out rules on suspension to keep them uniform . I'm not for Simon getting less cause if I made the rules his would be the exception. Pronger will just become an annoucner for those games or coach again.

Stay Classy Brian Burke

Pronger gets to rest up, one game to be ready for the playoffs. Its all good :)

And as the mod said, any fans of other teams thinking of whining about Pronger, there is a big whine fest on the main board for your pleasures only.

Flying elbow to the head?

I think I'd laugh if I saw something like that happen. I don't think it's physically possible for Pronger to even do that to a guy as short as McAmmond, unless we apply our knowledge of Pronger physics to the situation.

Yeah, I saw that a couple times in the Pronger ***** thread on the main board. "Flying Elbow". I tried to imagine what that would be like. lol Seems like a fake WWE (WWF?) move or something.

about what i thought he'd get i suppose

Now the question, is Chris Pronger's suspension a blessing in disguise?

But seriously, I think this suspension is reason enough for Randy to give Scotty back the captaincy. We need a leader who the other players can count on, not a guy sitting in the press box licking his chops.

But seriously, I think this suspension is reason enough for Randy to give Scotty back the captaincy. We need a leader who the other players can count on, not a guy sitting in the press box licking his chops.

Good point, and I've been meaning to make a thread for this, but does anybody else think that the almost backwards step we've taken in terms of play (and standings resultant) has more to do with who's captain? It sounds silly; we have the talent this year, and we've put together incredible runs, but it still feels like we're somehow more vulnerable to a playoff loss than we were last season. I'm wondering if that has anything to do with how Pronger is as a captain, and if shouldering that responsibility (capped with the first few months we spent without Scott and Teemu) is affecting the team- negatively?

Sounds weird and paranoid, I know, but I'd like to see how we play with Scotty as our captain again.

Absolutely right decision by the NHL. Pronger is a fod! I am sure that Bergeron or DiPenta will make a good job.

Good point, and I've been meaning to make a thread for this, but does anybody else think that the almost backwards step we've taken in terms of play (and standings resultant) has more to do with who's captain? It sounds silly; we have the talent this year, and we've put together incredible runs, but it still feels like we're somehow more vulnerable to a playoff loss than we were last season. I'm wondering if that has anything to do with how Pronger is as a captain, and if shouldering that responsibility (capped with the first few months we spent without Scott and Teemu) is affecting the team- negatively?

Sounds weird and paranoid, I know, but I'd like to see how we play with Scotty as our captain again.

agreed. i'd like to see Scottie with the C again

Proper length. May even benefit Ducks to an extent, as now there will be more ice time to MAB and likes + Pronger gets some rest.

trust me as an oiler fan you don't want MAB to have more time

trust me as an oiler fan you don't want MAB to have more time

He looked fine when pronger was coaching him.

Pronger should keep the C. Niedermayer didn't play for most of the season, so it rightfully was taken from him.

I don't think the Ducks' up and down season has had anything to do with Pronger being captain, I think the most obvious reasons were the Cup Hangover (and starting the year way over in London), constantly changing lines/chemistry, adjusting to new teammates, and not having Scott/Teemu for most of the year.

While many players have said Scott has a calming presence over them, I think they also appreciate the strong character and competitiveness of Chris Pronger.

The length is fair IMO.

We should call Pronger the Crucible, because he has a knack for creating situations that the team has to either rally around each other or fail.

Thanks, Chris!

Can a player appeal a suspension? Or is that what he did today?

Can a player appeal a suspension? Or is that what he did today?

Maybe it's an automatic thing that the PA accords its members, but I think he should take the eight games, rest up and just move on.

8 games was about what I was expecting, so no major complaint from me.

For the suspension to mean something it had to include some playoff games, but this is pretty much what I expected from the NHL.

trust me as an Islanders fan you don't want MAB to have more time

Fixed.

Fixed. haha nice try but i'm an oiler fan not an islander fan, let's put it this giggy can't get his knee blowen out when MAB is in the stands

He looked fine when pronger was coaching him.

anyone looks good with pronger

anyone looks good with pronger

Yeah, Pronger was sure covering for his mistakes... from the bench... without a stick... in street clothes.

Yeah, Pronger was sure covering for his mistakes... from the bench... without a stick... in street clothes.

Obviously you havent seen his reach.

Good point, and I've been meaning to make a thread for this, but does anybody else think that the almost backwards step we've taken in terms of play (and standings resultant) has more to do with who's captain? It sounds silly; we have the talent this year, and we've put together incredible runs, but it still feels like we're somehow more vulnerable to a playoff loss than we were last season. I'm wondering if that has anything to do with how Pronger is as a captain, and if shouldering that responsibility (capped with the first few months we spent without Scott and Teemu) is affecting the team- negatively?

Sounds weird and paranoid, I know, but I'd like to see how we play with Scotty as our captain again.


http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=440140

Started a thread on that a while back..

I think you have got something there.

After thinking some more, I'm thinking Pronger's step was intentional but not malicious. Simon's stomp probably would have gotten 15 games (I'd guess it was doubled because he just came off the 25 gamer), and his stomp was more malicious. Simon's step just didn't cause damage because he stepped on a pretty solid part.

Pronger, stupidly, gave Kesler a little "I'm the Juggernaut, *****" because of the leg hold. He hit an area without much protection. If he was really trying to hurt Kesler, he'd actually have done some real damage.

Originally I thought he should get 10-15 games. After now considering that I don't think Pronger was trying to actually hurt Kesler, I drop that "should" to the rest of the season (10 games seems right, but 9 would be fine since there's only 9 left).

I'm a little surprised they let him play a regular season game, hopefully he can use it to shake the rust off for (hopefully) the playoffs.

For the suspension to mean something it had to include some playoff games, but this is pretty much what I expected from the NHL.

bingo. pronger doesnt give a ****, he'll be back for the playoffs. nhl dropped the ball again.

I'd like to add that I find it amusing that the NHL was originally going to do nothing about the incident because they only had that inconclusive, far out view. As if they didn't bother searching for other angles.

But because it was a Canadian team getting shafted, the Canadian media picks it up and runs with it. With suggestive articles with slanted wording, many before there was even the crappy, grainy footage. Then the public behaves like sheep and there's a growing outrage.

And only then, after all this outrage, is another camera angle dug up. Now with a clear view on video, and with public outcry (led by completely impartial reporting), the league has to follow through on a suspension.

It's pretty pathetic that the league didn't find this other view to begin with, and even more pathetic that they only added a suspension once others had done all the work. But hey, at least that media crusade paid off.

I'd like to add that I find it amusing that the NHL was originally going to do nothing about the incident because they only had that inconclusive, far out view. As if they didn't bother searching for other angles.

But because it was a Canadian team getting shafted, the Canadian media picks it up and runs with it. With suggestive articles with slanted wording, many before there was even the crappy, grainy footage. Then the public behaves like sheep and there's a growing outrage.

And only then, after all this outrage, is another camera angle dug up. Now with a clear view on video, and with public outcry (led by completely impartial reporting), the league has to follow through on a suspension.

It's pretty pathetic that the league didn't find this other view to begin with, and even more pathetic that they only added a suspension once others had done all the work. But hey, at least that media crusade paid off.

heh, and you don't think Burke didn't have a say into what 'angle' FSN released the first night??

heh, and you don't think Burke didn't have a say into what 'angle' FSN released the first night??
I think your tin foil hat is cutting of circulation to your brain.

I think your tin foil hat is cutting of circulation to your brain.

Looks good with my Kariya jersey on.

Conspiracies are fun, you should try one.

Yeah, Pronger was sure covering for his mistakes... from the bench... without a stick... in street clothes.

i kinda intrpreted that as pronger coaching him while they played together in edmonton. and anyone does look good playing besides pronger

I thought the 'stomp' was going to be a lot worse based on the buzz about it. I doubt Pronger could even see straight down, not to mention the fact for all intents and purpose Kesler had his legs wrapped around him. It is what it is. I don't mind the suspension per se, just the hype about the incident in question and the fact that the usual suspects have to get off of their "the NHL is conspiring with the Ducks" BS.

And in the end it could benefit the Ducks more,Pronger will be 100 percent ready for the playoffs so I don't feel all that upset to be honest here.

If CP does something that warrants a suspension during the playoffs, would it be outlandish to think that he should be suspended for 5-7 PO games?

Just curious to what DuckFan thinks...

BTW, I think the suspension was fair and they got it right. And I'm a Detroit fan.

After thinking some more, I'm thinking Pronger's step was intentional but not malicious. Simon's stomp probably would have gotten 15 games (I'd guess it was doubled because he just came off the 25 gamer), and his stomp was more malicious. Simon's step just didn't cause damage because he stepped on a pretty solid part.

Pronger, stupidly, gave Kesler a little "I'm the Juggernaut, *****" because of the leg hold. He hit an area without much protection. If he was really trying to hurt Kesler, he'd actually have done some real damage.

Originally I thought he should get 10-15 games. After now considering that I don't think Pronger was trying to actually hurt Kesler, I drop that "should" to the rest of the season (10 games seems right, but 9 would be fine since there's only 9 left).

I'm a little surprised they let him play a regular season game, hopefully he can use it to shake the rust off for (hopefully) the playoffs.
I felt that the Simon incident was way overblown at the time. It didn't look to me like he was really trying to hurt the guy, or else he wouldn't have stepped on his boot.

Simon had a chance to really stick it to Ruutu and didn't take it, more's the pity. He got painted as a psychopath and he doesn't really deserve that moniker.