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JeffYear92 03-09-2008, 01:22 PM The Rumor has been caught out of Kitchener,Ontario
The Rumor is that Kitchener Head Coach Pete Deboer will leave after the memorial cup tournament is finished and help the Devils Next Season
Sutter Coached with Deboer at one world junior where they were amazing and came out with gold
only the best coming to new jersey
deboer has turned kitchener into a hockey city,
Every team he has, success is always there
Kitchener used to be a so/so team with a bad coach
Deboer comes to kitchener and turns everything around
im gotta pray that he stays in Kitchener but
their is a chance of him coming to New Jersey
Treat him well New Jersey
Das Uber 03-09-2008, 01:27 PM Would this mean Johnny Mac is the odd man out?
britdevil 03-09-2008, 01:36 PM Would this mean Johnny Mac is the odd man out?
I love Johnny, but his offensive coaching isnt something to be desired...
This guy sounds very good from what ive read about him, and if hes coached with Sutter before, I guess that adds fuel to this fire.
Richer's Ghost 03-09-2008, 01:38 PM I predict Johnny Mac moves into a scouting role or coach at Lowell if this is true. No way Lou cuts him out of the organization.
Cry_Wolf 03-09-2008, 01:38 PM Is there some sort of story or link to this rumour? I mean, while I don't want to discredit you where you might get your info from, I just want to know if there's is a solid source about this in some kind of article.
I would be disappointed if Johnny Mac was the odd man out; although I think maybe a fresh coach with a different perspective might help our offense?
Captain Lou 03-09-2008, 01:50 PM I am still wondering why MacLean is still an assistant with us. I have not been impressed with his coaching. Maybe it's because Lou had this guy in his back pocket but needed another year to bring him in after he got Sutter.
I feel bad for Johnny Mac, but he isn't cutting the mustard. Lou will keep him in the organization, no doubt.
JeffYear92 03-09-2008, 01:55 PM Is there some sort of story or link to this rumour? I mean, while I don't want to discredit you where you might get your info from, I just want to know if there's is a solid source about this in some kind of article.
I would be disappointed if Johnny Mac was the odd man out; although I think maybe a fresh coach with a different perspective might help our offense?
Doboer could help with basically anything
he even got downie to claim down for 20 games
and that says a lot
DevilsFan38 03-09-2008, 01:57 PM Link?
DevilBesideYou 03-09-2008, 02:32 PM I predict Johnny Mac moves into a scouting role or coach at Lowell if this is true. No way Lou cuts him out of the organization.
Maybe Johnny Mac would do better in Lowell anyway. I agree with you, but I wouldn't mind having someone replace him.
NJD1982 03-09-2008, 02:34 PM I predict Johnny Mac moves into a scouting role or coach at Lowell if this is true. No way Lou cuts him out of the organization.
I agree, Johnny Mac needs a change of scenery. Maybe he can help guys like Bergfors.
Jason MacIsaac 03-09-2008, 02:34 PM Excellent news for the Devils organization, Pete Deboer runs a high powered offensive attack with a great PP. He is exactly the type of coach that will help make New Jersey into a mutihtreat both offense and defense.
This may be a blessing for Halischuk, I don't think he is phyically strong enough but you never know.
SCOTTIESTEVENS 03-09-2008, 03:03 PM Great news, I want a link though :)
GentlemanOfLeisure 03-09-2008, 03:06 PM The Rumor has been caught out of Kitchener,Ontario
The Rumor is that Kitchener Head Coach Pete Deboer will leave after the memorial cup tournament is finished and help the Devils Next Season
Sutter Coached with Deboer at one world junior where they were amazing and came out with gold
only the best coming to new jersey
deboer has turned kitchener into a hockey city,
Every team he has, success is always there
Kitchener used to be a so/so team with a bad coach
Deboer comes to kitchener and turns everything around
im gotta pray that he stays in Kitchener but
their is a chance of him coming to New Jersey
Treat him well New Jersey
yoda? is that you???
Lowell Next season, coaching, John MacLean will be.
Elias to Parise 03-09-2008, 03:12 PM yoda? is that you???
Lowell Next season, coaching, John MacLean will be.
was thinking the same thing haha
:yoda:
Gunnar Stahl 30 03-09-2008, 03:48 PM I predict Johnny Mac moves into a scouting role or coach at Lowell if this is true. No way Lou cuts him out of the organization.
i dont think he wants to do that. i mean he was in the running for the head coaching job for us i think he wants to coach at the nhl level
Overtime98 03-09-2008, 03:50 PM Link?
exactly.
Richer's Ghost 03-09-2008, 03:59 PM i dont think he wants to do that. i mean he was in the running for the head coaching job for us i think he wants to coach at the nhl level
Well Sutter is here - so who's leaving first?
Jared Ramsden 03-09-2008, 04:03 PM I like the idea of having McLean be the head coach in Lowell....Deboer sounds like a possible intriguing addition to the coaching staff....Devils have had a fondness for drafting or signing Kitchener players lately (Clarkson, Halischuk and Fraser)
Gunnar Stahl 30 03-09-2008, 04:15 PM Well Sutter is here - so who's leaving first?
im just saying i think he wants to coach in the nhl, if he cant wit the devils than with someone else
Richer's Ghost 03-09-2008, 04:18 PM im just saying i think he wants to coach in the nhl, if he cant wit the devils than with someone else
Ottawa? He's from close the there...
DevilBesideYou 03-09-2008, 04:25 PM Ottawa? He's from close the there...
Or maybe Atlanta.
On the other hand, maybe not. Wasn't Robbie Ftorek looking for an NHL head coaching job too? And he's still with the Otters.
ClaudeLemieux4HOF 03-09-2008, 05:10 PM i think hed have a much better chance of being a head coach if he shows success at coaching...not to say were oozing offensive talent, but were not exactly lighting up the lamps either...if he were to have success in lowell hed find a few more suitors...
Easton 03-09-2008, 05:12 PM We could use his help right now.
The Mad Crapper 03-09-2008, 05:52 PM Sounds like Lou is going to give Johnny Mac a chance to coach over at Lowell & see how he does as a Head Coach. If he is succesful, that would make things easier for Lou when he steps down & Sutter replaces him as the GM.
Jason MacIsaac 03-09-2008, 07:35 PM Wanna know a sick statistic, as head coach in the OHL his record is:
392 206 60 16...that winning percentage is amazing.
TZajac19 03-09-2008, 09:48 PM Would be a good coach to have i think. Looks good to me hope its true.
Devilsfanatic 03-09-2008, 10:13 PM I don't think DeBoer would leave Kitchener as GM/Head Coach to go NHL Ass. Coach........he'd get a head coaching gig right away. He's young at 39.
Classic Devil 03-09-2008, 10:27 PM That would be nice.
JimEIV 03-09-2008, 10:46 PM I don't think DeBoer would leave Kitchener as GM/Head Coach to go NHL Ass. Coach........he'd get a head coaching gig right away. He's young at 39.
Hey, If Sutter is really here to ultimately replace Lou, somebody has to replace Sutter some day :dunno:
Devilsfanatic 03-09-2008, 11:06 PM Hey, If Sutter is really here to ultimately replace Lou, somebody has to replace Sutter some day :dunno:
Yeah, well why leave his cushy job in Kitchener until he gets a HC job.....If I were to guess, I would say that if/when Brent becomes the GM, then DeBoer would come here, but not before that.
TZajac19 03-09-2008, 11:15 PM Maybe a Job under Lou and Sutter is better then a HC job some where else. Keep in mind he comes into a team that has a history of winning odds are if he takes a HC job right away it would be on a bad team. Plus like Devilsfanatic said he could be our HC after Sutter takes over for Lou if that happens. Plus he has a history with Sutter.
We also have more of his former players then anyone else in the league.
I will tell you this if this hire comes and he becomes our Asst. then Lou's days are numbered because he is setting up his successors.
Edit: And Johnny Mac will become the head coach at Lowell i think. That will be great and with him in Lowell and Jacques Laperriere still floating around(I think) working with our kids. Then Sutter, Robinson, Albelin, Caron, and this new guy. Thats a lot of good coach's for the organization!
Das Uber 03-09-2008, 11:49 PM Yeah, well why leave his cushy job in Kitchener until he gets a HC job.....If I were to guess, I would say that if/when Brent becomes the GM, then DeBoer would come here, but not before that.
Well, a few fairly reliable sources have said that Sutter demanded a GM/HC position from teams trying to lure him away from his cushy position in Red Deer. But that didn't turn out to be true. I honestly think that what Lou lacks in terms of being a player on the FA market, he makes up for by getting some of the greatest minds in hockey to help him run his team. Some pretty big names have been involved with the Devils in some kind of coaching/scouting/hockey operations role over the years. It wouldn't surprise me if Lou could snatch DeBoer from Kitchener and make him an assistant.
Devilsfanatic 03-10-2008, 01:03 AM Well, a few fairly reliable sources have said that Sutter demanded a GM/HC position from teams trying to lure him away from his cushy position in Red Deer. But that didn't turn out to be true. I honestly think that what Lou lacks in terms of being a player on the FA market, he makes up for by getting some of the greatest minds in hockey to help him run his team. Some pretty big names have been involved with the Devils in some kind of coaching/scouting/hockey operations role over the years. It wouldn't surprise me if Lou could snatch DeBoer from Kitchener and make him an assistant.
Well maybe he did get that GM/HC position in a wink-wink, nudge-nudge, agreement with Lou.
Brooklyndevil 03-10-2008, 09:16 AM I'm just curious, how long did Sutter sign for? Because for some reason, I get the feeling he's really not enjoying himself and we all heard the stories of him missing his family.
britdevil 03-10-2008, 09:19 AM I'm just curious, how long did Sutter sign for? Because for some reason, I get the feeling he's really not enjoying himself and we all heard the stories of him missing his family.
Thats a stretch isnt it???
I know hes not the happiest looking guy, but hes a true professional, im sure he loves his job. The thing about missing his family is that, its human nature, of course hes going to miss his family, but it was just something he said in an interview on tv.
Sutter is going to be around for a long time.
Brooklyndevil 03-10-2008, 09:30 AM Thats a stretch isnt it???
I know hes not the happiest looking guy, but hes a true professional, im sure he loves his job. The thing about missing his family is that, its human nature, of course hes going to miss his family, but it was just something he said in an interview on tv.
Sutter is going to be around for a long time.
I'm with you.... I hope he remains the Devils coach for a very long time.
I recall reading that he signed a four year deal, but I can't find any sources right now to back that up. I still think our next GM is behind the bench right now. It makes you think Pat Burns won't be coming back, at least not with us.
britdevil 03-10-2008, 09:36 AM I'm with you.... I hope he remains the Devils coach for a very long time.
We can only hope!! This DeBoer sounds like a great coach too, so one would hope this rumour has a certain amount of steam behind it.
If Sutter can get this team to play like they are next season, only better, with a years worth of experience with this system, and this DeBoer guy can put together an at least acceptable powerplay, we could do some damage.
I still think next year is going to be the year we really go for it.
Brooklyndevil 03-10-2008, 10:02 AM I recall reading that he signed a four year deal, but I can't find any sources right now to back that up. I still think our next GM is behind the bench right now. It makes you think Pat Burns won't be coming back, at least not with us.
Well, four years sound good to me. I was worried he only signed for two. Thanks.
Buzz Killington 03-10-2008, 12:04 PM I don't think DeBoer would leave Kitchener as GM/Head Coach to go NHL Ass. Coach........he'd get a head coaching gig right away. He's young at 39.
I don't know the particulars of the situation, but because DeBoer doesn't have any NHL experience, or professional coaching experience (he's only coached OHL), he might want/need a year or more in that environment.
One note, looking at his hockeydb's profile...he must be close to Paul Maurice (I was thinking about young coaches)...they were teammates for 3 years on the Windsor Spitfires in the mid-80's. They were both drafted in the 12th round, 3 years apart. DeBoer got his first coaching job with the Detroit Jr. Red Wings as an assistant under Paul Maurice. In 95-96 Maurice went to the Hartford Whalers, DeBoer became head coach of the Detroit Whalers (who became the Plymouth Whalers).
DevFan-RU- 03-10-2008, 01:37 PM Gotta walk before you crawl. He would be a great asset amongst the Devils coaching staff. But he could learn a lot working with Sutter and Lou.
DevilBesideYou 03-10-2008, 03:34 PM I'm just curious, how long did Sutter sign for? Because for some reason, I get the feeling he's really not enjoying himself and we all heard the stories of him missing his family.
"If I was not enjoying it, I would not be standing here doing it, I can tell you that right now." (http://torontosun.com/Sports/Hockey/2008/03/05/4910626-sun.html)
Sutter is awesome.
As for missing his family, I'm sure he does. But he's already said that he's gotten used to it. When his wife, mother and daughter visited him recently, he said that he's gotten used to living alone. I think that if it were that big a concern for him, he would not have taken the job.
Drewr15 03-10-2008, 03:54 PM Maybe a Job under Lou and Sutter is better then a HC job some where else. Keep in mind he comes into a team that has a history of winning odds are if he takes a HC job right away it would be on a bad team. Plus like Devilsfanatic said he could be our HC after Sutter takes over for Lou if that happens. Plus he has a history with Sutter.
We also have more of his former players then anyone else in the league.
I will tell you this if this hire comes and he becomes our Asst. then Lou's days are numbered because he is setting up his successors.
Edit: And Johnny Mac will become the head coach at Lowell i think. That will be great and with him in Lowell and Jacques Laperriere still floating around(I think) working with our kids. Then Sutter, Robinson, Albelin, Caron, and this new guy. Thats a lot of good coach's for the organization!
If this rumor is true - I'm thinking that's way things will go down. Lou can even stay on as president, Sutter as GM and DeBoer can eventually become head coach. If DeBoer does take this job, at the very least he wants to jump in and get some seasoning before going for an NHL coaching job. And I think it would be good for Johnny Mac to go to Lowell and do some actual head coaching and prove that he has earned the job. For all the knock he is getting on his offensive coaching - we basically have three goal scoring wingers, two are on the smaller side, and one natural center up front, its not a lot to work with.
Drewr15 03-10-2008, 03:57 PM Not sure if this is the article that started the speculation but it is really just wide open speculation here...nothing substantial.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2008/03/07/toth_rocketman/
vadvlfan 03-11-2008, 04:54 PM I am still wondering why MacLean is still an assistant with us. I have not been impressed with his coaching. Maybe it's because Lou had this guy in his back pocket but needed another year to bring him in after he got Sutter.
I feel bad for Johnny Mac, but he isn't cutting the mustard. Lou will keep him in the organization, no doubt.
How can you not be impressed with his coaching. First of all, he is an assistant, who merely carries out what philosophy the club dictates. He is a team player.
And no one here has mentioned larry leaving his position as asst?? why not. Do you really think he's been "sick" this long with a sinus infection?? Atleast give him (Maclean) credit for learning something from lou, larry and sutter. He is their student. Sick of his coaching? whatever tool.
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