Lou went after Hossa, according to The Star-Ledger

Niedermayer21
03-07-2008, 12:47 AM
If it is true that Lou made a pitch for Marian Hossa at the deadline, you know he will try to sign him in the off-season.

Just wondering what Lou offered Atlanta? Any guesses?

I bet the package started with Brian Gionta and Andy Greene and included one or two conditional draft picks, contingent upon Hossa signing with the Devils. After that, I don't have a clue.

But Pittsburgh won the bidding so Lou obviously didn't offer enough. I wonder if giving up Angelo Esposito sealed the deal? It will be interesting to see how Hossa does once he gets healthy. Will he play with Sid or Malkin? Would Hossa have played with Elias and Zach? That would have been a really nice first line! It may be our first line next season. Just a hunch.

Feedback please!!! And if you have the link to the article, feel free to post it, although it does not mention any of the Devils players that Lou offered. No leaks from the Devs. Unlike our government. ;)

Later...:thumbu:

Classic Devil
03-07-2008, 12:53 AM
I know everyone here is going to jump on me for this, but I'm glad we didn't trade whatever it is we would have have to have traded for Hossa. There's not a chance in hell that he would resign with us - not that we could afford him anyway - and frankly, I don't like him. Never have.

Easton
03-07-2008, 12:58 AM
I know everyone here is going to jump on me for this, but I'm glad we didn't trade whatever it is we would have have to have traded for Hossa. There's not a chance in hell that he would resign with us - not that we could afford him anyway - and frankly, I don't like him. Never have.
Ban.

Hossa always seemed like a good guy to me, it's his teammate Kovalchuk I don't care for.

NaChOs
03-07-2008, 01:25 AM
hossa in the playoffs = bleh

Darius Dangleaitis
03-07-2008, 01:40 AM
Damn. Oh well. Let's hope we make a play for him in the offseason.

Jason MacIsaac
03-07-2008, 02:18 AM
If it is true that Lou made a pitch for Marian Hossa at the deadline, you know he will try to sign him in the off-season.

Just wondering what Lou offered Atlanta? Any guesses?

I bet the package started with Brian Gionta and Andy Greene and included one or two conditional draft picks, contingent upon Hossa signing with the Devils. After that, I don't have a clue.

But Pittsburgh won the bidding so Lou obviously didn't offer enough. I wonder if giving up Angelo Esposito sealed the deal? It will be interesting to see how Hossa does once he gets healthy. Will he play with Sid or Malkin? Would Hossa have played with Elias and Zach? That would have been a really nice first line! It may be our first line next season. Just a hunch.

Feedback please!!! And if you have the link to the article, feel free to post it, although it does not mention any of the Devils players that Lou offered. No leaks from the Devs. Unlike our government. ;)

Later...:thumbu:
Zajac would have been going for Hossa.

fIREnIcE
03-07-2008, 03:05 AM
Damn. Oh well. Let's hope we make a play for him in the offseason.

DD once again a good point...if pit tanks, i can see him on the market, but would he want any part of jersey i doubt it, is he friends with anyoe on the team?

britdevil
03-07-2008, 04:02 AM
Zajac would have been going for Hossa.

Yuck.... The thought of that just makes me feel ill.

Zajac will hit 60+ points next season.

TheDevilMadeMe
03-07-2008, 05:37 AM
I know everyone here is going to jump on me for this, but I'm glad we didn't trade whatever it is we would have have to have traded for Hossa. There's not a chance in hell that he would resign with us - not that we could afford him anyway - and frankly, I don't like him. Never have.

I'm glad we didn't get Hossa either. Guy is the new Keith Tkatchuk: great regular seasons followed by crappy playoffs, time and time again. And yet (much like Tkatchuk), teams keep giving him the huge salaries and trading all kinds of worthwhile assets for him.

Devilswede
03-07-2008, 07:25 AM
Yuck.... The thought of that just makes me feel ill.

Zajac will hit 60+ points next season.

Somehow I reeeeeally doubt that.

DevilsFan38
03-07-2008, 07:32 AM
I know everyone here is going to jump on me for this, but I'm glad we didn't trade whatever it is we would have have to have traded for Hossa. There's not a chance in hell that he would resign with us - not that we could afford him anyway - and frankly, I don't like him. Never have.
No, I agree with you. He would have been too expensive, and he's not what the team needed.

Darius Dangleaitis
03-07-2008, 08:19 AM
Zajac would've been too steep a price. Wouldn't have surprised me if they asked for Bergfors or Halischuk either.

Well done not mortgaging the future though.

dano3forever
03-07-2008, 08:48 AM
I know everyone here is going to jump on me for this, but I'm glad we didn't trade whatever it is we would have have to have traded for Hossa. There's not a chance in hell that he would resign with us - not that we could afford him anyway - and frankly, I don't like him. Never have.

I agree. He wouldn't resign and we would have given up way too much for him. I have never really liked him either. We do need scoring, but he's not really "our" type

HBK27
03-07-2008, 09:18 AM
I know everyone here is going to jump on me for this, but I'm glad we didn't trade whatever it is we would have have to have traded for Hossa. There's not a chance in hell that he would resign with us - not that we could afford him anyway - and frankly, I don't like him. Never have.

I totally agree with you. I’m glad Lou looked into it & made what he thought was a fair offer, but at the end of the day there’s no way I’d like to see us give up even more than what Pittsburgh did. At the very least, maybe Lou drove up the price a bit for the Pens.

Still, I think the chances of Hossa re-signing with the Pens are rather slim since they have a good amount of young stars they need to take care of. I’m glad to at least know that Lou has some interest in Hossa & hopefully he goes after him hard in the offseason. The guy would just be huge for our offense…I don’t care if Lou has to overpay a bit for him either, since we don’t really have any other dead weight contracts…maybe Zubrus is a bit overpayed, but beyond that the Devils can afford to overpay slightly for a guy (kinda like how the Stars could take on Richards’ contract). Hossa’s been on my radar since last season & was the main reason why I was glad to see the Rangers sign Gomez AND Drury this past offseason, since those two huge contracts (plus having the highest paid goalie) should prevent them from going after Hossa (not to mention that they just traded away his brother as well, which might’ve been a draw for him).

Anyway…nice job Lou not mortgaging the future to get this guy now, but let’s get it done & sign him this offseason.

Brooklyndevil
03-07-2008, 09:23 AM
Dano mentioned it during the Leaf game but didn't think anything of it.

Heat McManus
03-07-2008, 10:09 AM
hossa in the playoffs = bleh

35 points in 55 games. While it's not Conn Smythe numbers, it's hardly bleh.

Game 6, 2003 ring a bell?

Any GM that did not try to get Hossa, even a small inquiry needs their head checked. The guy can be a game breaker. That said, he's not worth a Lindros-like package.

I don't see Hossa wanting to play in NJ. His style and Sutter's don't seem to mesh.

DevilBesideYou
03-07-2008, 10:12 AM
Dano mentioned it during the Leaf game but didn't think anything of it.
Dano wanted Sundin. Everyone else=not worthy.

BenedictGomez
03-07-2008, 10:34 AM
I bet the package started with Brian Gionta and Andy Greene and included one or two conditional draft picks, contingent upon Hossa signing with the Devils.

Based on the fact that ATL didnt get anyone as significant as Gionta AND they chose the Penguin package, I highly doubt Gio was part of the deal. I'd guess Lou offered something like any 2 of the following: Greene, Zajac, Clarkson, Oduya, Bergfors and a 2nd round pick. I'd have to imagine Zajac was part of the deal. This is all for fun of course, because you're more likely to stumble upon Pentagon Nuclear launch codes than the package Lou offered becoming public.

Niedermayer21
03-07-2008, 11:16 AM
We'll have money to spend in the off-season. Hossa would look good on the right side of Elias and Parise IMO. If not Hossa, I could see Lou going after a center and moving Elias or Parise to the off wing.

Lou will not mortgage the future unless it was for a player who was signed. We have a nice chemistry. A lot of times the teams that look the best on paper don't play the best on the ice. That is why signing Pandolfo is a priority. We can't afford to lose him, even though we did okay when he was injured.

åboriginal
03-07-2008, 11:21 AM
I totally agree with you. I’m glad Lou looked into it & made what he thought was a fair offer, but at the end of the day there’s no way I’d like to see us give up even more than what Pittsburgh did. At the very least, maybe Lou drove up the price a bit for the Pens.

Still, I think the chances of Hossa re-signing with the Pens are rather slim since they have a good amount of young stars they need to take care of. I’m glad to at least know that Lou has some interest in Hossa & hopefully he goes after him hard in the offseason. The guy would just be huge for our offense…I don’t care if Lou has to overpay a bit for him either, since we don’t really have any other dead weight contracts…maybe Zubrus is a bit overpayed, but beyond that the Devils can afford to overpay slightly for a guy (kinda like how the Stars could take on Richards’ contract). Hossa’s been on my radar since last season & was the main reason why I was glad to see the Rangers sign Gomez AND Drury this past offseason, since those two huge contracts (plus having the highest paid goalie) should prevent them from going after Hossa (not to mention that they just traded away his brother as well, which might’ve been a draw for him).

Anyway…nice job Lou not mortgaging the future to get this guy now, but let’s get it done & sign him this offseason.

if hossa is smart hell stay on board the malkin and crosby train and ride it as far as it can go. if they get some better goaltending and a little better on defense, theyll go farther. i know if i was hossa i wouldnt mind having those 2 phenoms padding my numbers for a few years and possibly going deep into the playoffs and being a real threat for the cup.

Niedermayer21
03-07-2008, 11:28 AM
if hossa is smart hell stay on board the malkin and crosby train and ride it as far as it can go. if they get some better goaltending and a little better on defense, theyll go farther. i know if i was hossa i wouldnt mind having those 2 phenoms padding my numbers for a few years and possibly going deep into the playoffs and being a real threat for the cup.

Great point!!!

Jon
03-07-2008, 11:31 AM
Not saying I'd make this trade but do you think it had anything to do with Madden being included? Re-hashing summer rumors?

Jonathan.
03-07-2008, 11:34 AM
Ban.

Hossa always seemed like a good guy to me, it's his teammate Kovalchuk I don't care for.

You mean the guy who looked like a legitimate leader and actually performed in the playoffs last year unlike Hossa?

Hossa is a playoff bum. Kovalchuk does the regular season and the post season.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-07-2008, 11:40 AM
Not saying I'd make this trade but do you think it had anything to do with Madden being included? Re-hashing summer rumors?

Madden? not a chance.

JRZ DVLS
03-07-2008, 11:42 AM
Hossa always seems to Kill us though.

Nieds, i dont think Lou will try and sign him in the Offseason. Way too much money.....

crashlanding
03-07-2008, 11:46 AM
Zajac would have been going for Hossa.
I really doubt that. It just isn't a Lou move, draft picks, prospects, fine but a low paid RFA who is our only real centerman on the top two lines for a rental?

The Pens gave up two average/below average forwards, a prospect whose stock is dropping and a first to beat our deal. I can see Lou trying something like Oduya, Clarkson, Bergfors and a 1st as our counter offer to the Pens' deal.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
03-07-2008, 01:01 PM
I know everyone here is going to jump on me for this, but I'm glad we didn't trade whatever it is we would have have to have traded for Hossa. There's not a chance in hell that he would resign with us - not that we could afford him anyway - and frankly, I don't like him. Never have.

I agree that trading our future would've been a bad move on our part but out of all the players that were "available" at the deadline, Hossa and Marleau were the only 2 players I would've liked. The good thing now is that we kept our core and Lou still has a chance of signing him during the off season. Marian Hossa is a great 2 way player, plays on the PP, the PK, is a natural scorer and is defenatly worth all the $$$ he's getting right now.

I'd take him over Gomez, Brière and Drury any day of the week. They all got a MASSIVE pay increase last summer and I really don't think he's gonna get a bigger contract then those guys.

If we can get Hossa to sign with us this summer, then I think that Gionta would become expandable for a good d-men. That would also allow Bergfors to step in on our 2nd line.

TheDevilMadeMe
03-07-2008, 01:16 PM
35 points in 55 games. While it's not Conn Smythe numbers, it's hardly bleh.

Game 6, 2003 ring a bell?

Any GM that did not try to get Hossa, even a small inquiry needs their head checked. The guy can be a game breaker. That said, he's not worth a Lindros-like package.

I don't see Hossa wanting to play in NJ. His style and Sutter's don't seem to mesh.

35 points in 55 games (only 13 goals I believe) is pretty bleh, when you consider that he's going to be one of the highest paid players in the league.

HBK27
03-07-2008, 02:12 PM
if hossa is smart hell stay on board the malkin and crosby train and ride it as far as it can go. if they get some better goaltending and a little better on defense, theyll go farther. i know if i was hossa i wouldnt mind having those 2 phenoms padding my numbers for a few years and possibly going deep into the playoffs and being a real threat for the cup.

If his priority is to win a Cup, then yeah sticking with the Pens is probably a good bet. But I’m guessing he’d have to give them a bit of a discount, as I’m sure they’ll be other competitive teams out there willing to pay him more than what the Penguins can spend. I also don’t think he needs to pad his stats with those guys, since the upcoming contract will be the biggest of his career & we’ve seen guys signing lots of 6+ year deals. I’m sure he’d probably enjoy being on a offensive team like that though, which you know isn’t gonna change with guys like Crosby & Malkin in the fold. I don’t know the Pens’ cap situation, but maybe they can afford to drop big $’s on those 3.

Elite Swede
03-07-2008, 05:43 PM
Get Olli Jokinen!!!!

åboriginal
03-07-2008, 06:37 PM
Get Olli Jokinen!!!!

dammit, dont get me started all over again:biglaugh: