Friday night vs Tampa will show a lot about our fan base

DevsOwnYou
03-05-2008, 11:12 AM
Ok Devils fans, we have no excuse not to have 16k Devils fans in The Rock on Friday night for a number of reasons.

1. It is an important game, as every game will be the rest of the season.
2. It is a Friday night home game which should be included on the Weekend Plan.
3. We have not had a home game in a week and our next home game is not until March 19.
4. There are some promo codes for the $65 seats.

An announced crowd of 13k or 14k would be awful. If most of the $100 Mezz and $95corner lowers go unsold we should still be able to have 16k tix sold.

No excuses! New beautiful fan friendly arena with easy access via car or mass transit. Friday night, even Florida gets over 16k on Friday nights.
See y'all there.

clubseats
03-05-2008, 11:25 AM
Ok Devils fans, we have no excuse not to have 16k Devils fans in The Rock on Friday night for a number of reasons.

1. It is an important game, as every game will be the rest of the season.
2. It is a Friday night home game which should be included on the Weekend Plan.
3. We have not had a home game in a week and our next home game is not until March 19.
4. There are some promo codes for the $65 seats.

An announced crowd of 13k or 14k would be awful. If most of the $100 Mezz and $95corner lowers go unsold we should still be able to have 16k tix sold.

No excuses! New beautiful fan friendly arena with easy access via car or mass transit. Friday night, even Florida gets over 16k on Friday nights.
See y'all there.

I think we already know a great deal about our fan base, get ready to be disappointed. It will be less than 16K.

cj225
03-05-2008, 11:27 AM
I think we already know a great deal about our fan base, get ready to be disappointed. It will be less than 16K.

Why? It was over 16k last Friday!

clubseats
03-05-2008, 11:28 AM
Why? It was over 16k last Friday!

That was a "free" game in the leap day promotion. If you bought 4 games, you got that game for free.

Devils9789
03-05-2008, 11:29 AM
It should be around 15k-16k, Friday night games are always good.

Last 5 Home Friday night turnouts:

2/29: 16,580
2/15: 14,475
2/8: 15,332
2/1: Sellout - 17,625

Problem is, all of those games were losses. :help:

Mr.Krinkle
03-05-2008, 11:32 AM
Oh boy, it's Wednesday, that must mean it's time for another attendance thread!

DevsOwnYou
03-05-2008, 11:32 AM
I think we already know a great deal about our fan base, get ready to be disappointed. It will be less than 16K.

I hope not. There is no excuse for us not to be able to gather 16 thousand of our fans into the arena for this game.
Potential free agents or players who will be traded do pay attention to attendance.
Let's show Vinny that Devils fans care about their team.
13-14k announced with lots of no shows is bush league.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-05-2008, 12:20 PM
Why? It was over 16k last Friday!
I think we already know the only thing clubseats posts about. Iggggnored

PuckStopsHere02
03-05-2008, 12:24 PM
Well we're gonna have 2 more people than last Friday - my aunt and I will be there. I'm expecting a tad less than 16,000 though.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-05-2008, 12:35 PM
I think we already know a great deal about our fan base, get ready to be disappointed. It will be less than 16K.

Give it a rest buddy.

I hope we get 16,000 but I have no idea.

Richer's Ghost
03-05-2008, 12:38 PM
No way I'm going to this game! Right BritDevil!? :sarcasm:

TheDevilMadeMe
03-05-2008, 12:42 PM
http://www.steveaddison.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/flogging%20dead%20horse.jpg

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-05-2008, 12:43 PM
You can also get tickets to the lower bowl at the Panthers arena for 40 dollars. :naughty:
But I forgot its our fan base
http://www.seinfeldonline.com/klompus.jpg

guyincognito
03-05-2008, 12:44 PM
That was a "free" game in the leap day promotion. If you bought 4 games, you got that game for free.

You're a fool if you think they sold 600 of those leap year tickets.

Drop a zero, you'll be getting closer.

Drop the "if you think they sold 600 of those leap year tickets." and we'll have god's honest truth.

Game Breaker
03-05-2008, 12:44 PM
I was going to get tickets for this game, but completely forgot. Oh well, I think it will be a shade under 16k.

sonny side up
03-05-2008, 12:54 PM
Problem is, all of those games were losses. :help:

Dont worry, you are playing Tampa... the way we play on the road, your AHL team could own us.


We got the Panthers beat as far as tickets this season. I have been getting Tix to Tampa games for about.... 30 bucks for lowers

Game Breaker
03-05-2008, 01:04 PM
Dont worry, you are playing Tampa... the way we play on the road, your AHL team could own us.

Hmm, I'm italian, maybe Lou will let me suit up for this one...

Jiri Bicek
03-05-2008, 01:38 PM
Why? It was over 16k last Friday!

Don't bother with this guy.. Every single one of his posts just rip attendance or complain

None Shall Pass
03-05-2008, 02:05 PM
Dont worry, you are playing Tampa... the way we play on the road, your AHL team could own us.

Have you SEEN Lowell? :help:

Gunnar Stahl 30
03-05-2008, 02:43 PM
i'll be there:yo::yo:

DevFan-RU-
03-05-2008, 03:24 PM
I have tickets... but might give them away.

Jason MacIsaac
03-05-2008, 04:13 PM
I don't see why the fans are so touchy on this topic...it is actually a topic of concern. This is a new arena, its the new year, no football, no baseball and we still aren't getting many fans....hell even the weather excuse has no merit now.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-05-2008, 04:18 PM
I don't see why the fans are so touchy on this topic...it is actually a topic of concern. This is a new arena, its the new year, no football, no baseball and we still aren't getting many fans....hell even the weather excuse has no merit now.
The last 2 home games...
16,580 vs Washington
Sellout vs NYI
The home stretch is here, and I think the attendance is gonna round out decent.
Again if people want to ignore the insane ticket prices and say that not an excuse, take it a look at how Florida can get 17,000 fans in a building. Because you dont have to take out a loan to have a family of four sit in the lower level.

njdevsfn95
03-05-2008, 04:48 PM
i'll be there.

just want this work week to end so i can get some much needed Hockey-therapy. this week is off to a good start with last nights victoriousness.

i tried the therapy last week and was just diappointed...and apparently pissed-looking on TV according to a coworker that saw me!

DevilFisch
03-05-2008, 06:22 PM
This game is NOT on the Weekend partial season plan. I should know, I'm an owner the plan.

Did someone say they were giving tickets away?

DevilsFan38
03-05-2008, 06:45 PM
This game is NOT on the Weekend partial season plan. I should know, I'm an owner the plan.

Did someone say they were giving tickets away?
The 18 game plan? Because that's what I have, and it most definitely is on that plan (and I've still got an extra ticket, if anyone is interested).

Muttley
03-05-2008, 07:50 PM
I don't see why the fans are so touchy on this topic...it is actually a topic of concern. This is a new arena, its the new year, no football, no baseball and we still aren't getting many fans....hell even the weather excuse has no merit now.

Easy Jason.

Free publicity from a brand new arena, free publicity from winning 3 Stanley Cups and having the best bargain in the NHL (a promotional website for getting 1/2 price tickets) are not good enough. :sarcasm:

You're not allowed to criticize attendance here. As if it somehow makes you less of a fan. :shakehead

feerlessleadr
03-05-2008, 07:55 PM
devil fisch-

I have the weekend plan and I have this game...strange

Easton
03-05-2008, 11:42 PM
Ok Devils fans, we have no excuse not to have 16k Devils fans in The Rock on Friday night for a number of reasons.

1. It is an important game, as every game will be the rest of the season.
2. It is a Friday night home game which should be included on the Weekend Plan.
3. We have not had a home game in a week and our next home game is not until March 19.
4. There are some promo codes for the $65 seats.

An announced crowd of 13k or 14k would be awful. If most of the $100 Mezz and $95corner lowers go unsold we should still be able to have 16k tix sold.

No excuses! New beautiful fan friendly arena with easy access via car or mass transit. Friday night, even Florida gets over 16k on Friday nights.
See y'all there.
5. I have two tickets available for the game. $35 each, center ice view, section 212, row 9. :sarcasm:

DevilFisch
03-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Wait, it IS on the weekend plan? Boooo...serves me right for the full 20 plan.

I clearly am confused here.

Sarge18
03-06-2008, 01:08 AM
Easy Jason.

Free publicity from a brand new arena, free publicity from winning 3 Stanley Cups and having the best bargain in the NHL (a promotional website for getting 1/2 price tickets) are not good enough. :sarcasm:

You're not allowed to criticize attendance here. As if it somehow makes you less of a fan. :shakehead

This was the first site I visited and I found a much better deal than the "best bargain in the NHL". It was right on the team's front page too! You don't have to be one of the 2% of Devil fans who actually visit this message board to find out about it.

http://panthers.nhl.com/tickets/Panthers_WingerPack.htm

You can bet those half price $65 seats will be filled tomorrow night, each and every one of them, and the five rows of $100 seats below them will all be empty, until I move to one of them that is. Once again, rediculous prices will be the reason for a non-sellout, not fan loyalty.

guyincognito
03-06-2008, 01:27 AM
This was the first site I visited and I found a much better deal than the "best bargain in the NHL". It was right on the team's front page too! You don't have to be one of the 2% of Devil fans who actually visit this message board to find out about it.

http://panthers.nhl.com/tickets/Panthers_WingerPack.htm

You can bet those half price $65 seats will be filled tomorrow night, each and every one of them, and the five rows of $100 seats below them will all be empty, until I move to one of them that is. Once again, rediculous prices will be the reason for a non-sellout, not fan loyalty.

That's one of the best promo's I've seen all season, the David Booth party at Hooters.

$35 upper deck seats behind the goals aren't the best bargain in the NHL. They're an okay value that isn't promoted by the team.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-06-2008, 01:30 AM
I love how people think everyone in NJ is a ****ing millionaire too.

Osorio
03-06-2008, 07:30 AM
I love how people think everyone in NJ is a ****ing millionaire too.

Well we are the state with the most millionaire residents, but I doubt many of them are Devils fans.

clubseats
03-06-2008, 09:16 AM
Don't bother with this guy.. Every single one of his posts just rip attendance or complain

Not every single post of mine is critical. I am a season ticket holder that goes to almost every game so I am contributing my share to the team. All I am doing is stating the facts and attendance is very disappointing this season. I am not sure why that makes me less of a fan or why I should be ignored. I did not know that all you are allowed to post on message boards is a rah rah assessment of a team.

Marv4Life
03-06-2008, 09:30 AM
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but besides St. Louis, we are the second team in the league to have the highest jump in attendance from last year. So that ain't bad, inspite of the Devils retarded management/marketing system.

I don't get it. You people ***** and moan when there aren't a crapload of sellouts; yet when there are some or close to it, there's complaints of "Lines are too long", "No room for sitting down", "Spaces are to narrow."
Which one is it?
And Tampa Bay won't bring in more than 17k, probably not much more than 16k, like it or not. But who cares? Gotta win some games.

Mr.Krinkle
03-06-2008, 09:47 AM
I don't get it. You people ***** and moan when there aren't a crapload of sellouts; yet when there are some or close to it, there's complaints of "Lines are too long", "No room for sitting down", "Spaces are to narrow."
.

You're shocked that people ***** and moan at anything and everything on an internet message board?

This season has been quite the drama on these boards. There was the Cupholder Crusade (which I admit, I was glad they got rid of them in the upper decks, but man the *****ing that was going on about that kept me occupied at work for hours!), The Dollar Dog Debacle, "OMG THEY RAN OUT OF POPCORN AND SODA!', The Family Day at 'The Rock' Fiasco. And of course our favorite topic - attendance. I'm sure I'm missing some things too.

After playing in that dump for so many years you'd think people would be happy, but hey you can't please all the people all the time.

Our worst night of the year this year was on Halloween, in the middle of the week, against a southeast division team....and it was only about two thousand or so short of our AVERAGE for last year.

But hey numbers lie I guess, no one comes to our games - I've been delusional all year wrong, the people seated around me every game are just figments of my imagination. Al Trautwig is right, we have no fans and you're all just a bunch of chat bots, admit it!

Jiri Bicek
03-06-2008, 10:26 AM
Well we are the state with the most millionaire residents, but I doubt many of them are Devils fans.

We have one die hard :yo:

Max Weinbergs basement and house is loaded with Devils stuff.. He's a frequent customer at the restaurant i work at.. Delivered to his house for the super bowl and his entire basement was decked out in Devils gear.. The son said they're huge fans of the team

Btw- I think I'll take our attendance the way it is compared to getting constant sell outs like the Rags.. Have you seen their playoff pricing?! :amazed:

fullmetal2405
03-06-2008, 10:27 AM
We have one die hard :yo:

Max Weinbergs basement and house is loaded with Devils stuff.. He's a frequent customer at the restaurant i work at.. Delivered to his house for the super bowl and his entire basement was decked out in Devils gear.. The son said they're huge fans of the team

that's ****ing awesome.

Game Breaker
03-06-2008, 10:38 AM
I love how people think everyone in NJ is a ****ing millionaire too.

I didn't make my money yet/move to nj yet, so relax! :sarcasm:

In reference to our jump in attendence, it would have been a bigger jump than St. Louis if they didn't have ridiculous prices. We could have consistent sellouts if the bottom seats dropped about 20% in price, or the price for season tickets should be the face value with an even lower price for season ticket holders. The mezz needs to drop to maybe $75 for the first few rows and $65 for the back few rows. They are great seats, but just not $100 seats. I don't understand why they don't see that by lowering the prices, they will make more money. The obviously need to offer people something for games in the middle of the week not against the rags and have more saturday games.

clubseats
03-06-2008, 11:13 AM
I didn't make my money yet/move to nj yet, so relax! :sarcasm:

In reference to our jump in attendence, it would have been a bigger jump than St. Louis if they didn't have ridiculous prices. We could have consistent sellouts if the bottom seats dropped about 20% in price, or the price for season tickets should be the face value with an even lower price for season ticket holders. The mezz needs to drop to maybe $75 for the first few rows and $65 for the back few rows. They are great seats, but just not $100 seats. I don't understand why they don't see that by lowering the prices, they will make more money. The obviously need to offer people something for games in the middle of the week not against the rags and have more saturday games.

Saturday night games are not entirely within the Devils control as they do not set the schedule, but I would expect to see more Saturday night and less Friday night games next year. As for the pricing, it is certainly out of control for certain sections. However, I would not be so sure that lowering prices would create consistent sellouts. I say this because almost all midweek games and a few Friday night games have had plenty of seats available for $35 or less that went unsold.

Game Breaker
03-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Saturday night games are not entirely within the Devils control as they do not set the schedule, but I would expect to see more Saturday night and less Friday night games next year. As for the pricing, it is certainly out of control for certain sections. However, I would not be so sure that lowering prices would create consistent sellouts. I say this because almost all midweek games and a few Friday night games have had plenty of seats available for $35 or less that went unsold.

Right, those were midweek games that had those seats available. If they had great promotions for those games, like cap/t-shirt night, and not a bootleg kids night, many more of those seats would sell. I don't like going to games on mondays, wednesdays, or thursdays because I work in the city and it really is a pain to get there/home. If I was getting a better incentive to go, like something limited addition, I would consider going a little more. I'm not less of a fan, but it really isn't worth it for me to leave work early/lose money to go home and drive, or take the train and not get home until nearly 11:30-12am. So, I don't go to those games unless there is something good or team I want to see.

clubseats
03-06-2008, 01:01 PM
Right, those were midweek games that had those seats available. If they had great promotions for those games, like cap/t-shirt night, and not a bootleg kids night, many more of those seats would sell. I don't like going to games on mondays, wednesdays, or thursdays because I work in the city and it really is a pain to get there/home. If I was getting a better incentive to go, like something limited addition, I would consider going a little more. I'm not less of a fan, but it really isn't worth it for me to leave work early/lose money to go home and drive, or take the train and not get home until nearly 11:30-12am. So, I don't go to those games unless there is something good or team I want to see.

You are so right about the lack of promotions. It is amazing that there have been so few, yet for the good ones, people do tend to show up.

Game Breaker
03-06-2008, 01:30 PM
You are so right about the lack of promotions. It is amazing that there have been so few, yet for the good ones, people do tend to show up.

Wednesday, January 16 vs Islanders...coat drive??:dunno: It brought in a whopping 15,975. If the coat drive was on a friday or saturday, the attendance would have definitely been higher. But a coat drive on a wednesday night? Great marketing...

Halloween vs. Tampa Bay...magnetic schedule?? Is that supposed to be a joke? The only joke that night was an attendance of 13,218. Why didn't they have something more child-oriented? You think little 7 year old Billy is going to want to go to a hockey game and get a magnet instead of going trick-or-treating and getting candy? They should have had a ton of activities for children that night, and promoted it like crazy.

Devils9789
03-06-2008, 01:37 PM
This was the first site I visited and I found a much better deal than the "best bargain in the NHL". It was right on the team's front page too! You don't have to be one of the 2% of Devil fans who actually visit this message board to find out about it.

http://panthers.nhl.com/tickets/Panthers_WingerPack.htm

You can bet those half price $65 seats will be filled tomorrow night, each and every one of them, and the five rows of $100 seats below them will all be empty, until I move to one of them that is. Once again, rediculous prices will be the reason for a non-sellout, not fan loyalty.

Thats sick, a free game every time Booth scores? The devils should do something like that.

DevilBesideYou
03-06-2008, 02:35 PM
Thats sick, a free game every time Booth scores? The devils should do something like that.
They wouldn't even have to give away that many free games:sarcasm:!

Sarge18
03-06-2008, 03:27 PM
Thats sick, a free game every time Booth scores? The devils should do something like that.

They should, but that would mean promoting a player, and by doing that making that particular player more important than the team. Never gonna happen.

Marv4Life
03-06-2008, 04:02 PM
They should, but that would mean promoting a player, and by doing that making that particular player more important than the team. Never gonna happen.


You are also talking about the Florida Panthers, one of the worst teams in hockey in the last few years that they'll do any type of gimmick to put fans in the seats.

Devils9789
03-06-2008, 04:06 PM
How about everytime the Devils score 3 or more goals in a game fans should get a free game? :sarcasm:

guyincognito
03-06-2008, 04:08 PM
You are also talking about the Florida Panthers, one of the worst teams in hockey in the last few years that they'll do any type of gimmick to put fans in the seats.

Why not come up with a creative way to move out the inventory sitting around? We couldn't do it at those prices because we don't have a whole lot of cheap inventory (and STH's wouldn't want $14 tickets in their expensive section), but there's really nothing wrong with the concept, at all.

NewarkDevil
03-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Little statistic:

2006-7 total attendance over 41 games: 581,225
2006-7 average attendance: 14,176
Arena Capacity: 19,040

2007-8 total attendance over 34 games: 520,657
2006-7 average attendance: 15,313
Arena Capacity: 17,625

Projected total attendance based on current average over the next 7 home games: 627,848

Thats an increase of almost 50,000 tickets bought over the course of the year from last year. Not bad at all.

One more thing, our current average would be our highest average since 2001-2002.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-06-2008, 06:02 PM
Little statistic:

2006-7 total attendance over 41 games: 581,225
2006-7 average attendance: 14,176
Arena Capacity: 19,040

2007-8 total attendance over 34 games: 520,657
2006-7 average attendance: 15,313
Arena Capacity: 17,625

Projected total attendance based on current average over the next 7 home games: 627,848

Thats an increase of almost 50,000 tickets bought over the course of the year from last year. Not bad at all.

One more thing, our current average would be our highest average since 2001-2002.
I would love to see the gate taken in compared to some other teams, I guarantee we make a ******** more.

DevilFisch
03-06-2008, 06:17 PM
How about everytime the Devils score 3 or more goals in a game fans should get a free game? :sarcasm:

The Devils aren't giving away 37 games.

NJDevs26
03-06-2008, 06:24 PM
They should, but that would mean promoting a player, and by doing that making that particular player more important than the team. Never gonna happen.

I agree, but they could do team-based things, like Ottawa giving out pizza every time they score 5+ goals. We could give out a voucher for whatever Chico's food of choice is that night for every shutout, something like that :yo:

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-06-2008, 06:27 PM
The Devils aren't giving away 37 games.
According to most oppossing fans we havent even scored a goal all season.

NJDevs26
03-06-2008, 06:31 PM
Little statistic:

2006-7 total attendance over 41 games: 581,225
2006-7 average attendance: 14,176
Arena Capacity: 19,040

2007-8 total attendance over 34 games: 520,657
2006-7 average attendance: 15,313
Arena Capacity: 17,625

Projected total attendance based on current average over the next 7 home games: 627,848

Thats an increase of almost 50,000 tickets bought over the course of the year from last year. Not bad at all.

One more thing, our current average would be our highest average since 2001-2002.

And in those next seven home games are two guaranteed sellouts and possibly another one against the Isles on a Friday night (when most colleges have school break). But in any case the other five home games should average around 16,000 so the overall average could actually approach 16,000 for the season when it's all said and done :amazed:

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-06-2008, 06:33 PM
And in those next seven home games are two guaranteed sellouts and possibly another one against the Isles on a Friday night (when most colleges have school break). But in any case the other five home games should average around 16,000 so the overall average could actually approach 16,000 for the season when it's all said and done :amazed:
Dont tell that to Al Trautwig, according to him its 16,000 non emailing cardboard cutouts!
I dont know why people are bugging out so much, people really have to look at the late 80s, early 90s attendance figures of some teams, the Devils and the rest of the league are a world ahead of those small figures.

clubseats
03-06-2008, 08:37 PM
Little statistic:

2006-7 total attendance over 41 games: 581,225
2006-7 average attendance: 14,176
Arena Capacity: 19,040

2007-8 total attendance over 34 games: 520,657
2006-7 average attendance: 15,313
Arena Capacity: 17,625

Projected total attendance based on current average over the next 7 home games: 627,848

Thats an increase of almost 50,000 tickets bought over the course of the year from last year. Not bad at all.

One more thing, our current average would be our highest average since 2001-2002.

An 1,150 increase in a brand new arena is very disappointing. When I heard Vanderbeek speak before the season he said "every game may be a sellout." There is no way to spin a positive on our raw attendance figures this year. Now, as someone also mentioned, I would love to see our gate revenue. I am sure we are at the very top in the league. After all that is what is really important to an owner of a team. If he wanted a packed house, ticket prices would be much lower, but so would his profits.

guyincognito
03-06-2008, 08:41 PM
An 1,150 increase in a brand new arena is very disappointing. When I heard Vanderbeek speak before the season he said "every game may be a sellout." There is no way to spin a positive on our raw attendance figures this year. Now, as someone also mentioned, I would love to see our gate revenue. I am sure we are at the very top in the league. After all that is what is really important to an owner of a team. If he wanted a packed house, ticket prices would be much lower, but so would his profits.

You're confusing me here.

It's bad because attendance is low but it's good that gate is high (I don't think top of the league, though, the place has the *potential* to draw tops in the league), and gate couldn't be as high if attendance was higher.

But you're disappointed. About what, exactly? Vanderbeek for speaking out of turn or for fans not showing up?

clubseats
03-06-2008, 09:07 PM
You're confusing me here.

It's bad because attendance is low but it's good that gate is high (I don't think top of the league, though, the place has the *potential* to draw tops in the league), and gate couldn't be as high if attendance was higher.

But you're disappointed. About what, exactly? Vanderbeek for speaking out of turn or for fans not showing up?

I am disappointed because as a fan I want higher attendance because it creates a much better atmosphere to watch the game. If Vanderbeek wants to float me some of his excess revenue I would be happy too.

Jiri Bicek
03-06-2008, 09:21 PM
I am disappointed because as a fan I want higher attendance because it creates a much better atmosphere to watch the game. If Vanderbeek wants to float me some of his excess revenue I would be happy too.

Until proper promotions and ticket deals are put in place we won't see a huge jump in attendance.

Not only does the lack of marketing hurt a strong part of our fan base but it doesn't help bring in the casual fan in an extremely competitive market..

We're sharing a state with two historic fan bases in the Rags and Philly.. Philly has most of South Jersey so it's really like we battle for 2/3 of the state with the Rangers who were here long before us.

As a student myself, i can only afford to go to a select number of games between paying for my car, bills, food, etc. I've made it to more games this regular season thus far than i have in any other year at CAA

We have some of our best attendance during seasonal breaks and days when schools have off