Sign Avery?

Trade#5
03-04-2008, 03:08 PM
After reading this article ... http://www.nypost.com/seven/03042008/sports/rangers/new_deal_not_likely_for_avery_100408.htm

I'm just gonna throw it out there- would you sign Avery for the right price?

Personally, I wouldn't. I just don't respect a player like that. But that's my opinion.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-04-2008, 03:09 PM
In before lock.
This gon' get ugly.

Gunnar Stahl 30
03-04-2008, 03:11 PM
i wouldnt not because what he does on the ice, but off.

Devilswede
03-04-2008, 03:12 PM
No, not for what he thinks he's worth. He's a *******. There's no way a player like that would fit into what Lamoriello believes in. He's the complete opposite of everything Lou stands for.

Avery is not a good teammate and is a selfish sob who always always wants to be in the center of things. He might be good at what he does, but he will never do it in New Jersey, at least not as long as Lou Lamoriello is in charge. Avery's character makes Lamoriello vomit.

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:14 PM
After reading this article ... http://www.nypost.com/seven/03042008/sports/rangers/new_deal_not_likely_for_avery_100408.htm

I'm just gonna throw it out there- would you sign Avery for the right price?

Personally, I wouldn't. I just don't respect a player like that. But that's my opinion.

Too much $$$$. I don't have a problem with his *********-ness. If anything, we probably need a little bit of that.

But he's probably going to get $4 million a year off some poor sap. We need to fix things before we can start adding on luxuries like an agitator.

Richer's Ghost
03-04-2008, 03:15 PM
Not a LOU APPROVED player. Doesn't fit the quality character requirements (see Danton*).

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:16 PM
No, not for what he thinks he's worth. He's a *******. There's no way a player like that would fit into what Lamoriello believes in. He's the complete opposite of everything Lou stands for.

Avery is not a good teammate and is a selfish sob who always always wants to be in the center of things. He might be good at what he does, but he will never do it in New Jersey, at least not as long as Lou Lamoriello is in charge. Avery's character makes Lamoriello vomit.

Character doesn't pay the bills.

And we've had *******s on the team before. Claude and Bobby, just to name a few.
Oliwa wasn't going to win any "happy guy and great teammate" awards, either.

Trade#5
03-04-2008, 03:16 PM
i wouldnt not because what he does on the ice, but off.

Because he dated an Olsen twin?

Elias to Parise
03-04-2008, 03:16 PM
NO. Especially if he keeps scoring at over .5 points per game. The guy's going to want 3.5 to 4 million over a long contract. **** that the guy is cancer in remission if you ask me. Pretty sure he said he wouldn't play for the Devil's anyway. We don't need that clown.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-04-2008, 03:17 PM
Would not be opposed to it, but like guy said, we need to worry about getting ourselves some offense before signing a guy like Avery.

Plus, I wouldn't want him for more than $3 million and I know that he'll easily get more than that.

Gunnar Stahl 30
03-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Because he dated an Olsen twin?

haha :biglaugh: yea thats why.

AfroThunder396
03-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Theres no way Marty and Avery could exist in the locker room together with the history they have.

Clarkson Falls Down
03-04-2008, 03:20 PM
One things for sure, the Devils would be alittle more recognized if we signed him.

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Not a LOU APPROVED player. Doesn't fit the quality character requirements (see Danton*).

That nutcase hurt us more than we'll ever know. Especially when he confirmed Lou's fears of him being bat-**** crazy.

Damn Mike Jefferson. Damn you to hell.

Reverend_Hellh0und
03-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Not with your **** and gomez pushing!

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:22 PM
Thats why i said, for the right price... Basically, numbers aside.. would you want a player like him.

Yes and no question? Then the answer is "yes". I'm sick of this team being like a 1950's sitcom. It is hockey, afterall.

Gunnar Stahl 30
03-04-2008, 03:23 PM
Thats why i said, for the right price... Basically, numbers aside.. would you want a player like him.

i would want a player LIKE him but not him. i think we have a player like him in clakrson

JerryGigantic
03-04-2008, 03:29 PM
Theres no way Marty and Avery could exist in the locker room together with the history they have.

Exactly. No way this gets past Marty. Lou and company would never do anything to alienate our HOFer. And, at $4mil, a total rip-off anyway.

I think the douchiest move for Avery would be to sign with the Islanders or Flyers.

daveskirtun
03-04-2008, 03:31 PM
I wouldn't mind him on the team, but he's way too expensive

Trade#5
03-04-2008, 03:32 PM
Exactly. No way this gets past Marty. Lou and company would never do anything to alienate our HOFer. And, at $4mil, a total rip-off anyway.

I think the douchiest move for Avery would be to sign with the Islanders or Flyers.

The Islanders did just get rid of Chris ''Psycho'' Simon. I would love for the Rags to get a taste of their own medicine.

AfroThunder396
03-04-2008, 03:33 PM
Exactly. No way this gets past Marty. Lou and company would never do anything to alienate our HOFer. And, at $4mil, a total rip-off anyway.

I think the douchiest move for Avery would be to sign with the Islanders or Flyers.
Don't even get me started.

Jiri Bicek
03-04-2008, 03:33 PM
Imagine Avery and Clarkson on the same line...

They would be *****ing at not only the other team but each other as well

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:35 PM
i would want a player LIKE him but not him. i think we have a player like him in clakrson

I think Clarkson is going to play himself off the team. Maybe as soon as this offseason. It's just a hunch. It's not anything he's doing wrong, more that he doesn't mesh with the "philosophy".

If I had my way, I'd clone two extra Clarksons. But, it's not how the Devils work, he freelances too much, is a defensive liability, and he has a little bit of showman in him. It doesn't fly here.

So, in that sense Avery is moot. But they really, really need those kind of players, we're just too easy to play against.

Darius Dangleaitis
03-04-2008, 03:37 PM
Our guys most likely all hate Avery. Wouldn't work.

fluffernutter mf
03-04-2008, 03:38 PM
No. Marty would demand a trade. That and the guy's a ******.

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:40 PM
No. Marty would demand a trade. That and the guy's a ******.

Why would he demand a trade? It's an act. I'm sure Claude did something "mean" to Marty once he left.

By that standard, we can't pick up any player that might have run him or said something bad to him? If Lindros didn't get his brain squished by Stevens, and he wanted to come here, we couldn't have him because he ran Marty early and often?

Leopold Stotch
03-04-2008, 03:43 PM
You guys wouldn't want to sign the second coming of Claude Lemieux?? You know there's more to him than just being a pest. He has a good amount of hockey skill.

Personally, I would HATE for him to be on the Devils, simply for the fact that my team would have to face him 8 times a season.

Marv4Life
03-04-2008, 03:45 PM
I prefer Darcy Tucker but he'd probably come at a price too...

I Eat Crow
03-04-2008, 03:47 PM
You guys wouldn't want to sign the second coming of Claude Lemieux?? You know there's more to him than just being a pest. He has a good amount of hockey skill.

Personally, I would HATE for him to be on the Devils, simply for the fact that my team would have to face him 8 times a season.

Agreed, I would hate it if Avery signed with a team within the division. Too bad he is probably staying in New York, since no one in the league will give him the money he wants.

P.S, I come in peace, despite my avatar :)

Mr.Krinkle
03-04-2008, 03:47 PM
Hell no, he's a distraction on and off the ice. He's not worth the money. He's all talk.

I always thought he was a little nuts, but he must really be off his rocker if he thinks he'll get 4 mil a year, if Sather won't pony up the money, nobody well, unless of course Dan Snyder were to buy a hockey team.

Jiri Bicek
03-04-2008, 03:49 PM
I prefer Darcy Tucker but he'd probably come at a price too...

Ah!

:blah:Tucker-Avery-Clarkson :blah:

DevsOwnYou
03-04-2008, 03:49 PM
NO!!! He's a punk who does not respect the game.
I would never want him in Devs Red & Black, he's not Devils material nor character.

Reverend_Hellh0und
03-04-2008, 03:53 PM
Clarkson is our Avery, except he has class and will fight.

Elias to Parise
03-04-2008, 03:53 PM
I think Clarkson is going to play himself off the team. Maybe as soon as this offseason. It's just a hunch. It's not anything he's doing wrong, more that he doesn't mesh with the "philosophy".

If I had my way, I'd clone two extra Clarksons. But, it's not how the Devils work, he freelances too much, is a defensive liability, and he has a little bit of showman in him. It doesn't fly here.

So, in that sense Avery is moot. But they really, really need those kind of players, we're just too easy to play against.

If Clarkson was the anti-devil like you make him out to be he would have been gone already. Clarkson is going no where.

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:54 PM
Ah!

:blah:Tucker-Avery-Clarkson :blah:

The first ever line brawl. Literally. Do it Lou. Do it now!

Randal Graves
03-04-2008, 03:55 PM
No way.. and that's not discrediting what Avery brings on the ice.. he's a useful player. The problem is that he's the kind of guy who divides a locker room.. and that's potentially much more destructive to the team than what he does on the ice.

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 03:56 PM
If Clarkson was the anti-devil like you make him out to be he would have been gone already. Clarkson is going no where.

It's a process. It really started getting noticeable after the All-Star break. The one difference is that we're talking about the Devils, so if Clarkson develops into a nutball, there's not going to be too many microphones waved in his face.

The Devils don't tolerate players that stand out anymore.

Trade#5
03-04-2008, 04:00 PM
The first ever line brawl. Literally. Do it Lou. Do it now!

..+1

TheDevilMadeMe
03-04-2008, 04:08 PM
You guys wouldn't want to sign the second coming of Claude Lemieux?? You know there's more to him than just being a pest. He has a good amount of hockey skill.

Personally, I would HATE for him to be on the Devils, simply for the fact that my team would have to face him 8 times a season.

Lol. Claude Lemieux is one the big clutch playoff performers of the modern era. Avery.... not so much.

Anyway, I think that with Clarkson in the lineup, we don't need Avery. Clarkson plays a similar game. He's not as good as Avery yet, but may be in the future, and he doesn't seem to piss off his own teammates like a young Avery.

MoonDragn
03-04-2008, 04:09 PM
Sign him to a 4 year contract and then send him down to Lowell ;)

Classic Devil
03-04-2008, 04:11 PM
Too much money. I'd take Avery, but his impending contract removes that possibility.

njdevils1982
03-04-2008, 04:17 PM
Yes and no question? Then the answer is "yes". I'm sick of this team being like a 1950's sitcom. It is hockey, afterall.


at least it not a ******* soap opera like toronto.

Jason MacIsaac
03-04-2008, 04:17 PM
I think Clarkson is going to play himself off the team. Maybe as soon as this offseason. It's just a hunch. It's not anything he's doing wrong, more that he doesn't mesh with the "philosophy".

If I had my way, I'd clone two extra Clarksons. But, it's not how the Devils work, he freelances too much, is a defensive liability, and he has a little bit of showman in him. It doesn't fly here.

So, in that sense Avery is moot. But they really, really need those kind of players, we're just too easy to play against.
Agreed, I say Clarkson and possibly Zajac were part of packages for Hossa and Campbell. I would move Clarkson to move up in the draft.

Feed Me A Stray Cat
03-04-2008, 04:20 PM
Clarkson is not going anywhere.

And Lou would never sign someone who has the potential to be a locker room cancer.

Jason MacIsaac
03-04-2008, 04:20 PM
If Clarkson was the anti-devil like you make him out to be he would have been gone already. Clarkson is going no where.
Who says Lou didn't try to move him at the deadline? If I have a pest on my team I want him to be a shutdown type player like Steve Ott or something like that. Clarkson is a pest who will fight but won't score much. He is weak defensivly also and I really don't think he has much hockey sense.

JimmyDevil
03-04-2008, 04:26 PM
no, he's not dating elisa cuthbert anymore (who used to show up in the crowd a lot of his games in LA)

oh yea, he's a jackass too...

Elias to Parise
03-04-2008, 04:26 PM
Who says Lou didn't try to move him at the deadline? If I have a pest on my team I want him to be a shutdown type player like Steve Ott or something like that. Clarkson is a pest who will fight but won't score much. He is weak defensivly also and I really don't think he has much hockey sense.

Well we will never know so that's pointless. But still if the devils thought he was such a liability he would be a healthy scratch? no? The guy is a rookie who is still learning. Steve Ott was no shutdown forward his rookie season.

Feed Me A Stray Cat
03-04-2008, 04:30 PM
Who says Lou didn't try to move him at the deadline? If I have a pest on my team I want him to be a shutdown type player like Steve Ott or something like that. Clarkson is a pest who will fight but won't score much. He is weak defensivly also and I really don't think he has much hockey sense.

Clarkson has offensive potential. He can create more offense than a lot of our forwards. If, with more experience, he can gain better timing and finishing ability, Clarkson will be a 15-20 goal scorer easily.

DevilBesideYou
03-04-2008, 04:32 PM
Well we will never know so that's pointless. But still if the devils thought he was such a liability he would be a healthy scratch? no? The guy is a rookie who is still learning. Steve Ott was no shutdown forward his rookie season.
Also, didn't Lou say that it was because of Clarkson that he thought he could get rid of Cam?

Elias to Parise
03-04-2008, 04:34 PM
Also, didn't Lou say that it was because of Clarkson that he thought he could get rid of Cam?

Sounds familiar but I'm not sure. Someone here probley knows.

guyincognito
03-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Clarkson has offensive potential. He can create more offense than a lot of our forwards. If, with more experience, he can gain better timing and finishing ability, Clarkson will be a 15-20 goal scorer easily.

I think he can be a McKay type, 15-20/40-45.

I'm just operating on a hunch here, only brought it up because Avery came up and to say Avery is incompatable with the Devils is the understatement of the decade.

I think Clarkson could go down a road where he's incompatable too.

hlundqvist30
03-04-2008, 04:41 PM
I love those that say "no because of what he does off the ice." What the hell has he done off the ice since coming to NY? We get it. He isn't exactly Einstein. Hell, if he got smashed in the head with a crowbar I don't think it would affect him. But point is since coming here he has been far from a problem off the ice. Even on the ice, he's had his share of 10 minute misconducts, but he hasn't done anything very controversial.

With that said I don't think this would work either way. Avery wouldn't want to go to NJ because, no offense, he likes the spotlight. I don't think he'll be finding that in NJ. Plus, Avery has been pretty loyal and I gaurentee that he would never become a Devil or Islander. He just hates them, and he's not Scott Gomez :p:. At the same time, Devils probably wouldn't want him. Lou probably wouldn't want to take the risk on him, and he and Marty in the locker room would be a disaster. I will have a hard time cheering against Avery if he chooses to leave us. He's just such a funny guy to watch, and is extremely entertaining. If my life was at risk and I had to rely on someone to save it, Avery would be about #13924828453564994 on my list, but as a hockey player he's awesome. He probably wouldn't be a good fit in NJ.

NewYorkDevil
03-04-2008, 04:43 PM
I don't believe much in all that "incompatable" hooplah. From a fan's perspective, I despise Sean Avery not for his annoyance, but his cowardice. Sean Avery will insult a player about his leukemia (I know, I know) but if he's challenged to a fight, he'd turtle like Lemieux.

BrodeurRULES
03-04-2008, 04:56 PM
lmao it would never happen thank god. But I would rather shoot myself then to sign P.O.S Avery.

DevilsFan38
03-04-2008, 05:22 PM
I just threw up a little in my mouth at the suggestion.

Thankfully he's looking for too much money for the Devils to be interested.

jerseyg00d
03-04-2008, 05:34 PM
please kill this thread,

Alcoolique
03-04-2008, 05:36 PM
**** him.. I seriously doubt he'll go to a contender, really doubt it.. If he becomes a FA.

thefiestygoat
03-04-2008, 05:36 PM
Hell No!

None Shall Pass
03-04-2008, 05:58 PM
Not for $3.75 mill, not by a LOOOOONGshot

Gunnar Stahl 30
03-04-2008, 06:11 PM
I love those that say "no because of what he does off the ice." What the hell has he done off the ice since coming to NY? We get it. He isn't exactly Einstein. Hell, if he got smashed in the head with a crowbar I don't think it would affect him. But point is since coming here he has been far from a problem off the ice. Even on the ice, he's had his share of 10 minute misconducts, but he hasn't done anything very controversial.

With that said I don't think this would work either way. Avery wouldn't want to go to NJ because, no offense, he likes the spotlight. I don't think he'll be finding that in NJ. Plus, Avery has been pretty loyal and I gaurentee that he would never become a Devil or Islander. He just hates them, and he's not Scott Gomez :p:. At the same time, Devils probably wouldn't want him. Lou probably wouldn't want to take the risk on him, and he and Marty in the locker room would be a disaster. I will have a hard time cheering against Avery if he chooses to leave us. He's just such a funny guy to watch, and is extremely entertaining. If my life was at risk and I had to rely on someone to save it, Avery would be about #13924828453564994 on my list, but as a hockey player he's awesome. He probably wouldn't be a good fit in NJ.

are you serious? what about the incident in toronto? and all the contract talks can be distracting to a team

Lou's Koolaid
03-04-2008, 06:18 PM
Sign him to a 4 year contract and then send him down to Lowell ;)+1:handclap::biglaugh:

Blitz113
03-04-2008, 06:39 PM
Hell no.

Jonathan.
03-04-2008, 06:44 PM
are you serious? what about the incident in toronto? and all the contract talks can be distracting to a team

You mean the incident that was made up by a ****** reporter?

Dialamo
03-04-2008, 06:45 PM
I'd rather have a buffalo take a d*******a dump in my ear!

(Try and guess where that line is from! ;) )

hlundqvist30
03-04-2008, 06:45 PM
are you serious? what about the incident in toronto? and all the contract talks can be distracting to a team

Umm... so Sean Avery is at fault for Berger making up a story? None of what was reported was true. Apparently all Sean said was a "yo mamma" joke.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-04-2008, 06:48 PM
As much as I would have loooovvvved for the Toronto incident to be true, it was made up by Howard Berger.
Howard Berger makes Mark Everson look like Chico Resch when it comes to the Devils. I called him out on Hockeybuzz a million times for what he used to make up about the Devils, the leading reason I wont post there anymore.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-04-2008, 06:53 PM
I'd rather have a buffalo take a d*******a dump in my ear!

(Try and guess where that line is from! ;) )
AVGN son

ALine9900
03-04-2008, 07:35 PM
Haha the second coming of Claude Lemieux...

#22 could be one of the classiest guys on the ice and he would still be twice the player Avery is.

DevilBesideYou
03-04-2008, 08:21 PM
I think Clarkson could go down a road where he's incompatable too.
Maybe, but I don't know. From what I've heard of Clarkson, he's a very hard worker and a team-first player. Those traits are pretty "Devilish." Things like his finishing ability and defensive responsibility, he can work on them.

sattar18
03-04-2008, 08:26 PM
Maybe, but I don't know. From what I've heard of Clarkson, he's a very hard worker and a team-first player. Those traits are pretty "Devilish." Things like his finishing ability and defensive responsibility, he can work on them.
you dont hear clarkson talking trash off the ice, HUGE difference between clarkson and avery

fIREnIcE
03-04-2008, 09:23 PM
I prefer Darcy Tucker but he'd probably come at a price too...

beat me to iit by four hours....himor downie, I have said in the past I wouldnt kick him of my team but not for that price, and with clarkson we can do better with the money.

i still love his pesting ways, shades of pepe

fIREnIcE
03-04-2008, 09:25 PM
you dont hear clarkson talking trash off the ice, HUGE difference between clarkson and avery

that is exactly it.....I have a felling Tucker holds the same code as well

BenedictGomez
03-04-2008, 10:07 PM
My eyes did the equivalent of vomiting in your own mouth when I read the title of this thread.

Gunnar Stahl 30
03-04-2008, 10:42 PM
Umm... so Sean Avery is at fault for Berger making up a story? None of what was reported was true. Apparently all Sean said was a "yo mamma" joke.


You mean the incident that was made up by a ****** reporter?

yea that one. i'll admit i forgot the whole story, my apologies. but the reporter didnt start a scrum during warm ups

nni
03-04-2008, 11:05 PM
i would rather root for the rangers to win the stanley cup, than for the devils to sign avery.

Devilsfanatic
03-04-2008, 11:08 PM
Personally, I'd find it hilarious.........Marty, Clarkie, Avery, Parise all on the same team. Sean is just a dick

devilsrock
03-04-2008, 11:12 PM
no way, we don't need him and we don't want him.
as far as clarkson he will be 3 time better than avery very soon.

devilsrock
03-04-2008, 11:16 PM
I love those that say "no because of what he does off the ice." What the hell has he done off the ice since coming to NY? We get it. He isn't exactly Einstein. Hell, if he got smashed in the head with a crowbar I don't think it would affect him. But point is since coming here he has been far from a problem off the ice. Even on the ice, he's had his share of 10 minute misconducts, but he hasn't done anything very controversial.

With that said I don't think this would work either way. Avery wouldn't want to go to NJ because, no offense, he likes the spotlight. I don't think he'll be finding that in NJ. Plus, Avery has been pretty loyal and I gaurentee that he would never become a Devil or Islander. He just hates them, and he's not Scott Gomez :p:. At the same time, Devils probably wouldn't want him. Lou probably wouldn't want to take the risk on him, and he and Marty in the locker room would be a disaster. I will have a hard time cheering against Avery if he chooses to leave us. He's just such a funny guy to watch, and is extremely entertaining. If my life was at risk and I had to rely on someone to save it, Avery would be about #13924828453564994 on my list, but as a hockey player he's awesome. He probably wouldn't be a good fit in NJ.
thats funny, do the rangers actually have anyone thats truthfully loyal?

devsfan4life
03-04-2008, 11:23 PM
Can we please lock this thread now? I DO NOT want to see that ***hole anywhere near the Devils organization.

devsfan4life
03-04-2008, 11:25 PM
thats funny, do the rangers actually have anyone thats truthfully loyal?

haha nope, maybe the queen but that was at about 7 mill a year and look how "amazing" he has played. By the rags fans standards he has already made the hall of fame.

Trade#5
03-04-2008, 11:31 PM
i would rather root for the rangers to win the stanley cup, than for the devils to sign avery.

woah.. woah.. woah.. think about what you just said there:eek:

devsfan4life
03-04-2008, 11:33 PM
woah.. woah.. woah.. think about what you just said there:eek:

haha yeah, that was a little much. He could "root" for the Rangers to win the Stanley Cup, but they wouldnt win it anyway because their the Rangers.

Trade#5
03-04-2008, 11:37 PM
If all the dirtbags in the NHL were on one team, Sean Avery was captain, and they were in the Stanley Cup finals against the Rangers.. I would cheer for Avery's team.

devsfan8
03-04-2008, 11:47 PM
i would rather root for the rangers to win the stanley cup, than for the devils to sign avery.

I would rather have herpes then to root for the Rangers to win the Stanley Cup.

Sarge18
03-04-2008, 11:58 PM
Didn't that zilch say something to the effect of "I'd sooner retire than play for the Devils". I'm not sure, it's the sig of some Ranger fan here. I'm sure he said that because on the Devils, the logo on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back and that is the total opposite of his philosophy. It wouldn't be all about HIM here, and he wouldn't get that media stroke he so desperately craves. He's hockey cancer and Lou knows this and won't go near him this summer. I say he'll stay with the Rangers. His inflated ego meshes well with that city and team. Otherwise, I hope he signs with Colorado, just so I can despise them again at my 2001 level and we don't have to see his stupid face more than once a year.

guyincognito
03-05-2008, 12:40 AM
If all the dirtbags in the NHL were on one team, Sean Avery was captain, and they were in the Stanley Cup finals against the Rangers.. I would cheer for Avery's team.

If the Devils were eliminated, I'd be rooting for the Dirtbags all playoff long.

But, that's just me.

The Dirtbags need Dirtbag fans to make it complete, though. :handclap:

fIREnIcE
03-05-2008, 02:02 AM
i would rather root for the rangers to win the stanley cup, than for the devils to sign avery.

WAHT! WHAT! WHAT! in my best Kyles moms voice.....nmi thats just crazy:amazed:

I admire your hate for the guy and the passion but I would never root for them to win the cup, in fact if we could get avery for league min, i would pick him up from the airport, he has calme ddowned a lot and at this point outside from tonite we could use him on offensive I would rather have him out ther than Rupper.....but I can see why so may people hate him at the same time

Niedermayer21
03-05-2008, 03:02 AM
I heard somewhere that Avery is into Goth. He paints his nails black, etc. I personally don't care, but I rather have Marilyn Manson on the Devils before Sean Avery. The guy has some talent but I really don't like him. He's basically a *****!

Let the Rangers keep him. Even more reason to hate the Rags!!! :rant:

OCD
03-05-2008, 03:06 AM
avery is a POS...

lou would never sign that moron.

britdevil
03-05-2008, 03:43 AM
Talk about overreaction in this thread...

Avery is a POS yes, but a POS that would benefit your team. The Rags win games when he is in the lineup, nuff said really.

Cant say I wouldnt sign him for the right price, but like others have said, Clarkson fills that role for us and is more of a "team first" guy.

Shades of Lemeiux, nobody can really say Pepe was any more "Devilish" with his antics.

fIREnIcE
03-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Talk about overreaction in this thread...

Avery is a POS yes, but a POS that would benefit your team. The Rags win games when he is in the lineup, nuff said really.

Cant say I wouldnt sign him for the right price, but like others have said, Clarkson fills that role for us and is more of a "team first" guy.

Shades of Lemeiux, nobody can really say Pepe was any more "Devilish" with his antics.

well said as always brit, ur spot on. I on the other hand would sign him if the price is right say league min:sarcasm:, but the price is wron B*tch(been trying to work that into a post for years now hehehe). Hes a perfect example of a guy who u hate when u play against him but if he were/trade/ signed/picked up he would give 1305 to us, lets not kid ourselves....

But I digress I wouldnt go out of my way to sign him....man I miss pepe anyone else, i know clarkson is made from the same mold but just less offense but maybe ina couple years he can continue to develope, he reminds meof avery unsigned, bu the upper hand goes to David that he has found his stride almost immediatly, unlike avery who had ups and downs in Det and LA....ranger fans sem to forget that, but hey when he googles are on you see what you wanna see.

fIREnIcE
03-05-2008, 07:41 AM
Off topic but did anyone else see the trade deadline show right before the trade of salvador was announced they compared Clarkon to carcillo and the panel all cho daniel over david, I cant see why can anyone shed some light on this, although this past drought, davey scored a beaut last night, I dont see daniel as a better player for the follow:

He isnt a better fight in my eyes
He gets more playing time on a crappy(ok overreating there0 but mediocore team at best
David for the type of player he is show an incredible amount of restraint, even last night he rarely takes dumb penalties unlike Danile who I have been wahtching who like downie seems to be his own worst enemy

I think a better comaprasion would have been downie to clarkson and even then David has been the better player this year

ANY THOUGHTS GUYS??? it been killing me since that show.

fIREnIcE
03-05-2008, 07:43 AM
If the Devils were eliminated, I'd be rooting for the Dirtbags all playoff long.

But, that's just me.

The Dirtbags need Dirtbag fans to make it complete, though. :handclap:

ouch but hey ill give you this you got a brass set and u stick to your guns unlike some posters here who when called out backpedel FAST!

britdevil
03-05-2008, 07:51 AM
well said as always brit, ur spot on. I on the other hand would sign him if the price is right say league min:sarcasm:, but the price is wron B*tch(been trying to work that into a post for years now hehehe). Hes a perfect example of a guy who u hate when u play against him but if he were/trade/ signed/picked up he would give 1305 to us, lets not kid ourselves....

But I digress I wouldnt go out of my way to sign him....man I miss pepe anyone else, i know clarkson is made from the same mold but just less offense but maybe ina couple years he can continue to develope, he reminds meof avery unsigned, bu the upper hand goes to David that he has found his stride almost immediatly, unlike avery who had ups and downs in Det and LA....ranger fans sem to forget that, but hey when he googles are on you see what you wanna see.

Deffinately, theres no way I would go out of my way to sign him, even if he was asking for $3mill (he can/will get more) I wouldnt do it. But, theres no way he warrants some of the comments in this thread. People said the same thing in 95 about Pepe, yet we loved him (yes i realise there is no comparison between then two) so we have to kind of take the Rags fans reaction to us bashing him, with a pinch of salt.

I also miss Claude, talk about the X-factor. Lets hope David can grow into the same role, and produce half as much!!

Brooklyndevil
03-05-2008, 08:09 AM
Why is Sather playing hardball with this guy? Because although he has talent and is a pest, he's also an A-hole who's also a distraction and sooner or later he wears on you. Lou needs to add scoring on this team, not a distraction.

MoonDragn
03-05-2008, 09:21 AM
Why is Sather playing hardball with this guy? Because although he has talent and is a pest, he's also an A-hole who's also a distraction and sooner or later he wears on you. Lou needs to add scoring on this team, not a distraction.

Thats the reason why a guy like Avery is bad for team chemistry. Even the guys in the locker room would have problems with the guy and that really hurts the teamwork. Probably part of the reason why the Rangers were having so much problems. Too many Egos on that team.

Darius Dangleaitis
03-05-2008, 09:28 AM
Would never happen. I'd like to have him on the Devils, but I don't think Marty would want him here.

nni
03-05-2008, 09:41 AM
my reasoning is he is a dirtbag of a player. do we need a guy who only goes after the other players scorer and refuses to drop the gloves with anyone but the 5 people he has fought before? he takes stupid untimely penalties, and his scoring touch is a stroke of luck at best. to me clarkson is already a better player, and would match avery numbers if put on a scoring line.

i have developed a strong dislike for these agitators who wont drop the gloves when they agitate people.

Reverend_Hellh0und
03-05-2008, 10:06 AM
I love those that say "no because of what he does off the ice." What the hell has he done off the ice since coming to NY? We get it. He isn't exactly Einstein. Hell, if he got smashed in the head with a crowbar I don't think it would affect him. But point is since coming here he has been far from a problem off the ice. Even on the ice, he's had his share of 10 minute misconducts, but he hasn't done anything very controversial.

With that said I don't think this would work either way. Avery wouldn't want to go to NJ because, no offense, he likes the spotlight. I don't think he'll be finding that in NJ. Plus, Avery has been pretty loyal and I gaurentee that he would never become a Devil or Islander. He just hates them, and he's not Scott Gomez :p:. At the same time, Devils probably wouldn't want him. Lou probably wouldn't want to take the risk on him, and he and Marty in the locker room would be a disaster. I will have a hard time cheering against Avery if he chooses to leave us. He's just such a funny guy to watch, and is extremely entertaining. If my life was at risk and I had to rely on someone to save it, Avery would be about #13924828453564994 on my list, but as a hockey player he's awesome. He probably wouldn't be a good fit in NJ.




What's he done off the ice?


Well he took blomez clothes shopping and showed him all the right metrosexual things to do like paint ones fingernails black.... :sarcasm:

Jonathan.
03-05-2008, 10:39 AM
yea that one. i'll admit i forgot the whole story, my apologies. but the reporter didnt start a scrum during warm ups

Who cares if Avery was involved in a pre-game scrum? If anything, it was entertaining and a big plus in the game. His rivalry with Tucker has reached epic proportions.

Jonathan.
03-05-2008, 10:39 AM
What's he done off the ice?


Well he took blomez clothes shopping and showed him all the right metrosexual things to do like paint ones fingernails black.... :sarcasm:

Yeah, God forbid any hockey player do some interesting/crazy ****.

I wish all of them had the personality of Sidney Crosby.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-05-2008, 10:40 AM
Does anyone remember the playoff game last year against Ottawa with the Howard Berger confetti? Haha

britdevil
03-05-2008, 10:42 AM
Who cares if Avery was involved in a pre-game scrum? If anything, it was entertaining and a big plus in the game. His rivalry with Tucker has reached epic proportions.

If it came down to them having a fight, I would just hope they broke each others noses, cracked their goofy teeth and knocked each other out. Bliss.

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-05-2008, 10:43 AM
Yeah, God forbid any hockey player do some interesting/crazy ****.

I wish all of them had the personality of Sidney Crosby.

There is interesting and then there is a drama queen.

Jonathan.
03-05-2008, 10:50 AM
There is interesting and then there is a drama queen.

And the drama queen is damn entertaining.

Again, would you rather every player have the personality of a brick wall like Crosby?

The game is more entertaining with Avery around. He's a villain. A guy to hate or love depending on your team. He simply makes it more exiting.

britdevil
03-05-2008, 10:54 AM
And the drama queen is damn entertaining.

Again, would you rather every player have the personality of a brick wall like Crosby?

The game is more entertaining with Avery around. He's a villain. A guy to hate or love depending on your team. He simply makes it more exiting.

Cant say I disagree Jon. Ive always had a softspot for the more, how should I put it, "out-there" hockey players, than the media darlings.

Probably a reason I like Clarkson so much, hes not on Avery/Tuckers level (agitator wise), nor do I think he ever will be, but its good to have a player who can play that role.

I think Corrente will be that player for us, more so than Clarkson.

Chariot
03-05-2008, 10:59 AM
although I doubt Lou would pay enough to get him, its far from unrealistic for the Devils to inquire about Avery.

He's a valuable player, and you'd be stealing him from a rival...

Reverend_Hellh0und
03-05-2008, 12:20 PM
Yeah, God forbid any hockey player do some interesting/crazy ****.

I wish all of them had the personality of Sidney Crosby.



Crashing your car and killing your best friend is interesting/crazy.

Danton/jefferson was crazy

Emery driving while black and his shennenigans was crazy.

The dev shooting the puck at the coach was crazy

Brashear drunk driving was crazy

I could go on and on but..... This is to the point.


Taking your new best friend for clothes and a manicure is simply gay no matter how you spin it. :biglaugh:

Jonathan.
03-05-2008, 01:09 PM
Mentioning those incidents with Avery is pretty much stupid. And even classless. Comparing the Heatley incident, Danton, and drunk driving with Avery? Get some class, dude. Avery's a bit crazy but he's never killed anyone or was caught driving drunk yet.

pld459666
03-05-2008, 01:14 PM
No, not for what he thinks he's worth. He's a *******. There's no way a player like that would fit into what Lamoriello believes in. He's the complete opposite of everything Lou stands for.

Avery is not a good teammate and is a selfish sob who always always wants to be in the center of things. He might be good at what he does, but he will never do it in New Jersey, at least not as long as Lou Lamoriello is in charge. Avery's character makes Lamoriello vomit.

Yet you had Claude Lemieux how many times?

guyincognito
03-05-2008, 01:29 PM
ouch but hey ill give you this you got a brass set and u stick to your guns unlike some posters here who when called out backpedel FAST!

I just like that kind of player. It'll never happen, so I can keep hammering on it. There's no chance of people finding this post and saying "HEY, that's the guy who wanted Avery on the Devils, he ruined the team.... LET'S GET HIM!"

That type of player is entertaining, and the more ****ed up the wiring in the brain is, the better. Avery is about as screwed up as they come.

I understand he doesn't have "character" and people don't like him. But if we go out and get curbed again, maybe the two most important things aren't that our players have a clubhouse mentality where they all love each other, and that all of our players have pristine character.

nni
03-05-2008, 01:30 PM
****ing rangers fans cant stay away. yes we had claude lemieux who was a *********, and was infintely more talented than avery. avery is all downside without upside. plus this TEAM doesnt need that, the old team in the 90's did.

Brooklyndevil
03-05-2008, 01:32 PM
Yet you had Claude Lemieux how many times?

Big difference between Pepe and Avery, Peppe was a proven big time player in big games, but even he wore out his welcome with a number of teams. However, I'll take Pepe any day of the week of Avery.

Reverend_Hellh0und
03-05-2008, 01:46 PM
Mentioning those incidents with Avery is pretty much stupid. And even classless. Comparing the Heatley incident, Danton, and drunk driving with Avery? Get some class, dude. Avery's a bit crazy but he's never killed anyone or was caught driving drunk yet.

Oh get over yourself, You're making ranger fans look obtuse. I harkened back to off ice nhl storys that were "interesting" that came to mind and I was specifically stating he was not interesting because he paints his nails and goes shopping with blowmez like a little girl.......



Comprehension is your friend. :sarcasm:

HBK27
03-05-2008, 02:03 PM
The past few seasons it seems like Lou & a lot of the players have credited the team’s chemistry & locker room atmosphere as having a lot to do with the team’s success (where they have overachieved vs. pre-season predictions). I think Lou really values the locker room presence outside players can bring to the team. I think that’s a huge reason, for instance, as to why he decided to bring in a player like Weekes this offseason, who’s know as one of the best locker room guys.

Needless to say, bringing in Avery would go against this. There are plenty of other reasons I wouldn’t want him on the team as well. Fortunately, this is never going to happen since the Devils are one of the last teams that would want to sign him and NJ is one of the last places he would want to play…so we can all sleep pretty easy at night.

MoonDragn
03-05-2008, 02:18 PM
There is interesting and then there is a drama queen.

You find this interesting? He looks bored too.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/nhl/photos/crosby_loss.jpg

fIREnIcE
03-05-2008, 03:09 PM
You find this interesting? He looks bored too.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/nhl/photos/crosby_loss.jpg


sleepy very sleepy, I wonder if he just had the million dollar dream placed upon him?

fIREnIcE
03-05-2008, 03:17 PM
I just like that kind of player. It'll never happen, so I can keep hammering on it. There's no chance of people finding this post and saying "HEY, that's the guy who wanted Avery on the Devils, he ruined the team.... LET'S GET HIM!"

That type of player is entertaining, and the more ****ed up the wiring in the brain is, the better. Avery is about as screwed up as they come.

I understand he doesn't have "character" and people don't like him. But if we go out and get curbed again, maybe the two most important things aren't that our players have a clubhouse mentality where they all love each other, and that all of our players have pristine character.

guy u missed the point I kinda in a warped way agree with you....look at rupp for example(although I think for a while he has been playing better than average) but just becasue he is a nice guy he got a 2 year contract??? To me there were better options out there, we have all been on a team with that guy witha screw loose and we know how valuable they are when push comes to shov maybe not win the fight but the war by doing that thing you never thought anyone would do.

But again I say it if avery were to play here it would be cheap, not going to happen but hes not oworth what he is making or pegged.

Richer's Ghost
03-05-2008, 04:53 PM
You find this interesting? He looks bored too.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/nhl/photos/crosby_loss.jpg

what the hell is this?!?! :biglaugh:

"Franks N beans!"

Gunnar Stahl 30
03-05-2008, 06:51 PM
what the hell is this?!?! :biglaugh:

"Franks N beans!"

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:



excuse me have you seen my wiener??

Muttley
03-05-2008, 08:08 PM
As was pointed out above, I don't want anyone who has been immersed in the effeminate, post-lockout NYR/"new NHL" subculture: ie...painting fingernails black, eating shrimp tempura instead of a nice, juicy steak, waving at the crowd with sticks after games, idiotic & cheesy original songs played after goals, chanting the first name of your goalie after a less than spectacular save, etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/fashion/16nite.html

Sarge18
03-06-2008, 01:19 AM
One of my favorite hockey stories of all time is when Avery was on the Kings and Shanny was on the Wings and Avery was being himself against the Red Wings and Shanny skates by him on the bench and says "lose my phone number. I'm tired of your messages complaining about your teammates."

ILikeItVeryMuch
03-06-2008, 01:22 AM
As was pointed out above, I don't want anyone who has been immersed in the effeminate, post-lockout NYR/"new NHL" subculture: ie...painting fingernails black, eating shrimp tempura instead of a nice, juicy steak, waving at the crowd with sticks after games, idiotic & cheesy original songs played after goals, chanting the first name of your goalie after a less than spectacular save, etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/fashion/16nite.html
haha
Me at the last Devils Rangers game
:shot clanks off the glass:
NYR Fans: "Henrik Henrik"
Me: "What the ****, it wasnt even on net!"

newfish
03-06-2008, 07:04 AM
The only person that Avery cares about is himself, so no I wouldnt want him on the Devils.

Reverend_Hellh0und
03-06-2008, 07:50 AM
As was pointed out above, I don't want anyone who has been immersed in the effeminate, post-lockout NYR/"new NHL" subculture: ie...painting fingernails black, eating shrimp tempura instead of a nice, juicy steak, waving at the crowd with sticks after games, idiotic & cheesy original songs played after goals, chanting the first name of your goalie after a less than spectacular save, etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/fashion/16nite.html



less than spectacular? Try everytime a shot goes wide.