More Offense!

Since we have had some trouble over the last 3 4 games, and the deadlin came and went, why arent the Devils calling up Nick Bergfors, is he injured.....If not injured i think it would give the devils some like......what about ou lines if they were

parise-Elias-Gionta
Bergfors-Zajac-Langenbrunner/Clarkson
Pando-Madden-Clarkson/Langenbrunner
Zubrus-Rupp-Asham/Brylin

Rachunek-Oduya
Salvador-Martin
White-Brookbank/Motteau/Vishnevski

i like the d now with salvador, i thought they played very well against the habs especially considering the fact that the teams #1 didnt play. i would like to go down the stretch with white, salvador, martin, rachunek, mottau, and oduya. i dont think the defense will cost the playoffs as i did, it will be the offenses inability to score. especially w/ the new combos as of last night, which i hate as im sure everyone else does, but we'll see if sutter shuffles the deck again. but yeah the offenses in ability to score will be the downfall b/c as we have seen this week, you cant win if you dont score goals. now the devils have fallen to 5th in the east and are only a couple points out of 7th i believe and 5 pts outta 8th now. if they dont get it together, they could be flirting with missing the playoffs entirely!!!!!!

and i have stumbled upon these combos which someone came up with and they are rather intriguing (b/c sutter has thrown weird combos together too, see the most recent ones):

Parise-Elias-Asham
Zubrus-Zajac-Clarkson
Pandolfo-Madden-Langenbrunner
Brylin-Rupp-Gionta

White-Salvador
Oduya-Martin
Mottau-Rachunek

those are 4 balanced lines that could all do scoring damage, and then what u do, is when it comes down to crunch time, like if ur down by a goal or two and its getting late, you put your best players together and on the ice. for example, PEG could be reunited late in a game.

asham has scored some big goals early in the season when playing with better guys, and rupp looked good during the stretch in like mid-late january when he played w/ some better guys. someone said about asham "He kinda reminds me of a Brylin type of player on steriods. He has great hands, plays physical, can shoot and fight. He reminds me of Brylin because you can put him anywhere and he'll do his job." also he is a pretty fast skater as well.

Parise-Elias-Asham
Zubrus-Zajac-Clarkson
Pandolfo-Madden-Langenbrunner
Brylin-Rupp-Gionta

White-Salvador
Oduya-Martin
Mottau-Rachunek



those forwards lines look like something sutter would do :biglaugh:

parise-elias-gionta
bergfors-zajac-langenbrunner
pando-madden-zubrus
brylin-rupp-clarkson

IMO bergfors should get at least one more shot, he played well in his first nhl game and almost scored with the nice wrist shot of his.

Martin-oduya
white-greene
salvador-brookbank/mottau/rachunek

those forwards lines look like something sutter would do :biglaugh:

parise-elias-gionta
bergfors-zajac-langenbrunner
pando-madden-zubrus
brylin-rupp-clarkson

IMO bergfors should get at least one more shot, he played well in his first nhl game and almost scored with the nice wrist shot of his.

Martin-oduya
white-greene
salvador-brookbank/mottau/rachunek

Agreed. If not for a sick save by Holmqvist, Bergfors' NHL totals would be 1 GP, 1 Goal.

Since we have had some trouble over the last 3 4 games, and the deadlin came and went, why arent the Devils calling up Nick Bergfors, is he injured.....If not injured i think it would give the devils some like......what about ou lines if they were


Because he is not going to provide offense. He has 9 goals and 10 assist in 47 games in the AHL.

Because he is not going to provide offense. He has 9 goals and 10 assist in 47 games in the AHL.
lowell has no one to help him score, and he's been injured most of the year , he finally seems healthy.

mottau, usually im not a dick about spelling but this is a little different;)

I would roll out lines like this for 3 games and see how it works:

Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Zubrus-Rupp-Clarkson
Brylin-Zajac-Asham

White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek
Martin-Oduya
Greene-Brookbank as a 4th pairing here and there

Vishnevski in Section 202

I really don't know if we should bring up a young kid right now...... I have seen it in other sports when you have a problem scoring and you bring a young kid he feels like he has to score and make a difference. Plus with the season he has had in Lowell it could put him in an instant NHL slump and hurt his development.

The team can score but after we played so well for 15 or more games we are going to hit a little bit of a slump. Its just a bad time to hit it. This team can and will score we did not get to #1 in the EC from not scoring. My guess is you will see a MUCH better team Tues. after Sutter works them into the ground. We will be fine!! I have been saying that to everyone I know since the start of the season.

As far as bring someone up goes Clarke has the NHL experience and has a goal in his only game. Maybe Vrana because he would be a center and not asked to score just to create scoring. Bergfors would be brought up to put the puck in the net and i think thats a lot of pressure to put on him at 20 y/o. If we were in the middle of good hockey i would bring up bergfors because he would just play not put pressure on himself.

As far as bring someone up goes Clarke has the NHL experience and has a goal in his only game. Maybe Vrana because he would be a center and not asked to score just to create scoring. Bergfors would be brought up to put the puck in the net and i think thats a lot of pressure to put on him at 20 y/o. If we were in the middle of good hockey i would bring up bergfors because he would just play not put pressure on himself.

clarke is injured and its up in the air when he will be back, i wouldnt mind vrana but but we need a true sniper on this team, and IMO bergfors would fit in just fine, he has nhl speed and has a nice shot. it couldnt hurt to try and if it doesnt work out he'll know he has to work harder to get into the lineup.

lowell has no one to help him score, and he's been injured most of the year , he finally seems healthy.

He seemed to play well when he was on a line with Vrana, but they don't seem to like using them together too much.

clarke is injured and its up in the air when he will be back, i wouldnt mind vrana but but we need a true sniper on this team, and IMO bergfors would fit in just fine, he has nhl speed and has a nice shot. it couldnt hurt to try and if it doesnt work out he'll know he has to work harder to get into the lineup.

I did not know Clarke was hurt. I just think you have to be careful because it could hurt him if he plays 3 or 4 games does nothing and the gets Scratched for the rest of the season. It could have a negative affect. Lowell is almost done which means he just cant go down and find what he is missing.
I would not be surprised if his bad year had something to do with not being called back up. He made the team got hurt and even during the season when we were have problems scoring we never once brought him up. You can only imagine what the kid is thinking.

Bergfors has like 5-8 shots most nights. He's supremely talented on an awful team.

Bergfors has like 5-8 shots most nights. He's supremely talented on an awful team.

I watched the Lowell game online today and he's got moves. There was one point when he literally skated circles around two Bridgeport players as he carried the puck up the ice but then he lost it before he could get into their zone.

But man Pelley looks like a totally different player up there. He singlehandedly kept the play alive in Bridgeport's zone on more than one occasion, he was picking up rebounds, intercepting passes, hitting...he was just all over the place.

I watched the Lowell game online today and he's got moves. There was one point when he literally skated circles around two Bridgeport players as he carried the puck up the ice but then he lost it before he could get into their zone.

But man Pelley looks like a totally different player up there. He singlehandedly kept the play alive in Bridgeport's zone on more than one occasion, he was picking up rebounds, intercepting passes, hitting...he was just all over the place.
thats the thing with bergfors, he needs help and i could see him work magic with parise and elias.

All teams go through these awful spots where it seems like the goalie is 30 feet wide, better times are coming.
Relax folks.

All teams go through these awful spots where it seems like the goalie is 30 feet wide, better times are coming.
Relax folks.

Exactly. 2 weeks ago we were scoring at will. Now we've hit a rut, but we're in between what we saw two weeks ago and what we're seeing now.

Bergfors has like 5-8 shots most nights. He's supremely talented on an awful team.


Yes, Bergfors is getting shots on goal, but he is not putting any in!

I hate to say it, but Barry "UFA" Tallackson is scoring at Lowell. I believe he has 20 goals on the season now. Time to call him up along with Petr Vrana.

I looked at some of the line combos and almost vomited. LOL We are definitely an overacheiving team, to say the least.

Parise--Zajac--Langenbrunner (Wasn't this our best line last season???)
Madden--Elias--Gionta
Pandolfo--Zubrus--Clarkson
Brylin/Rupp--Vrana--Tallackson

Martin--White
Mottau--Salvador
Brookbank/Greene--Oduya

What the heck!? Moving Madden to left wing with Elias and Gionta gives them one guy on that line who will bust his butt. And putting Zubrus on the "checking line" between Pando and Clarkson could be interesting.

Also, play Weekes already!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rant:

And send Marty on a one week vacation to wherever he wants to go. I want him tan and rested, even though he is playing brilliantly right now. I'll go with him. I need a vacation, too!!!

Bring up Caruso. He can play goal and sing!!! :sarcasm: ;)

Yes, Bergfors is getting shots on goal, but he is not putting any in!

I hate to say it, but Barry "UFA" Tallackson is scoring at Lowell. I believe he has 20 goals on the season now. Time to call him up along with Petr Vrana.

I looked at some of the line combos and almost vomited. LOL We are definitely an overacheiving team, to say the least.

Parise--Zajac--Langenbrunner (Wasn't this our best line last season???)
Madden--Elias--Gionta
Pandolfo--Zubrus--Clarkson
Brylin/Rupp--Vrana--Tallackson

Martin--White
Mottau--Salvador
Brookbank/Greene--Oduya

What the heck!? Moving Madden to left wing with Elias and Gionta gives them one guy on that line who will bust his butt. And putting Zubrus on the "checking line" between Pando and Clarkson could be interesting.

Also, play Weekes already!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rant:

And send Marty on a one week vacation to wherever he wants to go. I want him tan and rested, even though he is playing brilliantly right now. I'll go with him. I need a vacation, too!!!

Bring up Caruso. He can play goal and sing!!! :sarcasm: ;)

Those lines are...retarded. Sorry. Madden on left wing? Our best faceoff man? Not a chance dude. And you should know that Zubrus did not work out a Center at the beginning of the season.

And Tallackson? The guy who has shown us NOTHING in his cups of coffee with the big club? No thanks. I'll take Asham over him right now.

Those lines are...retarded. Sorry. Madden on left wing? Our best faceoff man? Not a chance dude. And you should know that Zubrus did not work out a Center at the beginning of the season.

And Tallackson? The guy who has shown us NOTHING in his cups of coffee with the big club? No thanks. I'll take Asham over him right now.

Don't pay him to much mind... Nieds27 kinda thinks "outside the box". Just be thankful we are past the trade deadline, so we have until the summer for the next one of his special trade proposals.;)

The fact that this guy still has a Nieds avatar, and a picture of him in a Ducks jersey to boot really bugs me. :(

I'm sorry guys, but Bergfors and Vrana are not going to be an instant solution to our offensive woes. Our goal scoring issues are only going to be solved when the players we have remember how to score. That's something they've proven they can do and they are going to have to do if we're going to get anywhere.

I would like to see Bergfors get a couple games in, though. He did make the team out of the preseason (admittedly, with Langenbrunner injured) and I would like to see him get some time on the ice, but that doesn't mean he's a solution.

As I've made no bones about, I have very little hope for Bergfors. He almost had me convinced there was still hope for him in preseason, but his play in Lowell... well, let's just say it didn't improve my outlook. Still, he's still young and deserves another chance and we're not going to find out what he's capable of with him in Lowell.

My personal choice for our lineup?

Parise - Elias - Langenbrunner
Zubrus - Zajac - Gionta
Pandolfo - Madden - Brylin
Asham - Rupp - Clarkson

That's right. Go back to what was working. First line, two skill players and goal scoring punch. Second line, the puck possession line - get the puck, hold the puck, throw the puck at the net and look for rebounds. Third line, the transition line - hound the puck, get the puck, and go to the net with speed. Fourth line, physical play, get the other team off their game, and crowd the crease.

I would roll out lines like this for 3 games and see how it works:

Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Zubrus-Rupp-Clarkson
Brylin-Zajac-Asham

White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek
Martin-Oduya
Greene-Brookbank as a 4th pairing here and there

Vishnevski in Section 202

First of all, I need to applaud your D pairings as they are my thoughts exactly. :clap: (And therefore brilliant!;))

And, for the most part, I am of similar mind with the offensive re-jiggering. I think Sutter was on to something with his dramatic "shake-up" moves prior to the Habs game. And, as a result, two of our lines really came to life. Unfortunately, they were the 3rd and 4th lines.

I have wanted Gionta on Madden's wing FOREVER, as that line is all speed and opportunity, but no finish. With a speedster/garbageman like Gio, he can keep up with Madden and Pando's pace, and be there to clean up their mess. And with Gionta already a solid part of the PK rotation, he obviously can handle the defensive assignments. That line could be great together, essentially becoming our #2 by default.

And, by golly, Zubrus really adds something to that 4th line. Sure, he is well under his pay grade slumming with those two lunkheads, Rupp and Asham, and he was essentially banished there as punishment for uneven play lately. But that does not take away from the fact that this team has never been able to run 4 lines that smoothly since maybe 2001. His size and style of play really suits those other two players, and he brings such strong play along the boards. And suddenly finding himself on the "4th line" (although Sutter does not number his lines), he was forced to hit more. Which I loved seeing from him.

Maybe Zubie didn't like it, or will be a big baby about it, or whatever... But that is the best the "4th line" has looked in years and the best Zubrus has played in several weeks. I'd run that line ragged if I were Brent Sutter.

The problem remains what to do with the other guys. I got his point with making a "kid" line (Parise-Zajac-Clarkson) and a "vet" line (Brylin-Elias-Langenbrunner) with our supposed "Top 6", and on paper that seems kind of fun. But as much heart as Sarge has got left, and as hockey-smart as he is, Brylin cannot be part of our top line, as his offensive chops are absolutely fading at this point.

Elias has been on fire during the second half of the season (as usual), pouring in assists at more than point per game pace prior to our recent slump. So, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, he has got to have Parise and Langenbrunner as his wing men. That is the #1 line, the "A" line, whatever one wants to call it. Splitting it up essentially negates our offense entirely. Parise MUST remain with Elias for us to have any chance to keep up with any other team's elite lines. Those two are all the "scary" we got in the tank.

That leaves Brylin-Zajac-Clarkson as the default remainder line, all of whom are slumping. This would be my actual 4th line at this point, in terms of on-ice minutes, until they get it together. And although I am not a Bergfors believer, as I don't think he has the size, toughness or mental strength to succeed in the NHL... If Sutter really wants to have a "kid" line, I'd rest Sarge for a few games (and ruin his consecutive games streak, gasp!) and plug Bergie in his place. Like we used to do with our 4th lines, working younger players into the line-up (like John Madden, Brian Gionta, etc., when they first came up...)

Yes, Bergfors is a natural right wing, but Sutter moved him to left wing during the pre-season and he seemed to do just fine (until he was injured.)

So... My ideal line-up, for max offense...

Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Bergfors-Zajac-Clarkson
Zubrus-Rupp-Asham
(Brylin)

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek
(Brookbank-Greene)

First of all, I need to applaud your D pairings as they are my thoughts exactly. :clap: (And therefore brilliant!;))

And, for the most part, I am of similar mind with the offensive re-jiggering. I think Sutter was on to something with his dramatic "shake-up" moves prior to the Habs game. And, as a result, two of our lines really came to life. Unfortunately, they were the 3rd and 4th lines.

I have wanted Gionta on Madden's wing FOREVER, as that line is all speed and opportunity, but no finish. With a speedster/garbageman like Gio, he can keep up with Madden and Pando's pace, and be there to clean up their mess. And with Gionta already a solid part of the PK rotation, he obviously can handle the defensive assignments. That line could be great together, essentially becoming our #2 by default.

And, by golly, Zubrus really adds something to that 4th line. Sure, he is well under his pay grade slumming with those two lunkheads, Rupp and Asham, and he was essentially banished there as punishment for uneven play lately. But that does not take away from the fact that this team has never been able to run 4 lines that smoothly since maybe 2001. His size and style of play really suits those other two players, and he brings such strong play along the boards. And suddenly finding himself on the "4th line" (although Sutter does not number his lines), he was forced to hit more. Which I loved seeing from him.

Maybe Zubie didn't like it, or will be a big baby about it, or whatever... But that is the best the "4th line" has looked in years and the best Zubrus has played in several weeks. I'd run that line ragged if I were Brent Sutter.

The problem remains what to do with the other guys. I got his point with making a "kid" line (Parise-Zajac-Clarkson) and a "vet" line (Brylin-Elias-Langenbrunner) with our supposed "Top 6", and on paper that seems kind of fun. But as much heart as Sarge has got left, and as hockey-smart as he is, Brylin cannot be part of our top line, as his offensive chops are absolutely fading at this point.

Elias has been on fire during the second half of the season (as usual), pouring in assists at more than point per game pace prior to our recent slump. So, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, he has got to have Parise and Langenbrunner as his wing men. That is the #1 line, the "A" line, whatever one wants to call it. Splitting it up essentially negates our offense entirely. Parise MUST remain with Elias for us to have any chance to keep up with any other team's elite lines. Those two are all the "scary" we got in the tank.

That leaves Brylin-Zajac-Clarkson as the default remainder line, all of whom are slumping. This would be my actual 4th line at this point, in terms of on-ice minutes, until they get it together. And although I am not a Bergfors believer, as I don't think he has the size, toughness or mental strength to succeed in the NHL... If Sutter really wants to have a "kid" line, I'd rest Sarge for a few games (and ruin his consecutive games streak, gasp!) and plug Bergie in his place. Like we used to do with our 4th lines, working younger players into the line-up (like John Madden, Brian Gionta, etc., when they first came up...)

Yes, Bergfors is a natural right wing, but Sutter moved him to left wing during the pre-season and he seemed to do just fine (until he was injured.)

So... My ideal line-up, for max offense...

Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Bergfors-Zajac-Clarkson
Zubrus-Rupp-Asham
(Brylin)

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek
(Brookbank-Greene)
Zubrus doesn't strike me as a player who would complain to a coach. I like your lines in theory (I really like that fourth line) - but if I'm playing Bergfors, I don't want him with Zajac and Clarkson, they just don't create enough space for Bergfors to work. If we're serious about giving Bergfors a shot, put him on a line with Elias.

With Bergfors in the lineup...

Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Bergfors - Elias - Clarkson
Pandolfo - Madden - Gionta
Zubrus - Rupp - Asham

PLAY THE FOURTH LINE.

I like your D pairings, also. Rachunek - Salvador would be solid.

Bergfors-Elias-Clarkson excites me. That would reunite Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner and it would give a more effective presence to the 4th line with Zubrus.

Bergfors-Elias-Clarkson
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Brylin
Zubrus-Rupp/Pelley-Asham/Janssen (I just had to do it)

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek/Greene

Where do I sign?

Zubrus doesn't strike me as a player who would complain to a coach. I like your lines in theory (I really like that fourth line) - but if I'm playing Bergfors, I don't want him with Zajac and Clarkson, they just don't create enough space for Bergfors to work. If we're serious about giving Bergfors a shot, put him on a line with Elias.

With Bergfors in the lineup...

Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Bergfors - Elias - Clarkson
Pandolfo - Madden - Gionta
Zubrus - Rupp - Asham

PLAY THE FOURTH LINE.

I like your D pairings, also. Rachunek - Salvador would be solid.

I like those lines, as well, CD. (As you only switched two centers.) And agree wholeheartedly about actually playing our 4th line...

Although Zajac isn't nearly as creative as Elias, he is strong on the puck and could use Bergie as his finisher. I too fell in love with the PZL line last season, but think that the PEL line is even stronger. Either way, we could get a look at both versions pretty quickly if Sutter was so inclined.

Bergfors-Elias-Clarkson excites me. That would reunite Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner and it would give a more effective presence to the 4th line with Zubrus.

Bergfors-Elias-Clarkson
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Brylin
Zubrus-Rupp/Pelley-Asham/Janssen (I just had to do it)

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek/Greene

Where do I sign?

Ummm. You sittin' Gionta? And we traded Janssen to get Salvador.

The problem with all of this is the chance of the Devils sitting Brylin is... minimal. He's still a solid fourth liner and an adequate third liner, but he doesn't fit into the physical style of the fourth unit.

Ummm. You sittin' Gionta? And we traded Janssen to get Salvador.

I was kidding with the Janssen thing. And I just realized I sat Gionta.

I'd plug him in alongside Zajac and Parise.

Bergfors-Elias-Langenbrunner
Parise-Zajac-Gionta
Pandolfo-Madden-Brylin
Zubrus-Rupp/Pelley-Clarkson

I was kidding with the Janssen thing. And I just realized I sat Gionta.

I'd plug him in alongside Zajac and Parise.

Bergfors-Elias-Langenbrunner
Parise-Zajac-Gionta
Pandolfo-Madden-Brylin
Zubrus-Rupp/Pelley-Clarkson

Switch Zubrus and Brylin and you have yourself some lines! :handclap: We tried Pando Madden and Brylin in the playoffs last year and it did not go well:shakehead. If we bring up Bergfors and he plays well i think we have to move either Zubrus or Jamie to the 3rd line to add some strength.

I do agree with the D Pairings and i said it to a couple of my fellow season ticket holder friends, That Karel and Sal would be a good D pairing

Martin-Orr-duya
White-Mottau
Karel-Sal

I would maybe like to see what Martin and Salvy could do together. But i dont like the idea of putting Oduya and Karel together! :help:

I like Zubrus on the 3rd line as well. He did well on the third line for the Sabres. The only thing is he's a little slow compared to Pandolfo and Madden.

My 'shakeup' lineup vs. Toronto

Parise - Elias - Clarkson
Zubrus - Madden - Gionta
Pandolfo - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Rupp - Brylin - Asham

Martin - Oduya
White - Mottau
Salvador - Rachunek

Gives a nice mix of speed - banging - playmaking on every line.

I wouldn't keep it that way for many games, just enough to get the team out of this rut.

(wishing Weekes would see the net Friday night too)

This losing streak sucks. I really didn't think we'd see a 3 game losing streak again with this team this season. Everything changed after the deadline. Was Cam Janssen really THAT important to this team?!

They played great prior to it, so focused and on a winning streak. When the deadline passed it was like they stopped caring. I know it's not the end of the world, but as a top team in the league it should be unacceptable.

Thanks for getting us that top 6 forward Lou....:shakehead

lyl5DlrsU90

How much is it to watch AHL games online?

Aaaah the great things I could do with a megaphone and spotlight...:badidea:

I like Zubrus on the 3rd line as well. He did well on the third line for the Sabres. The only thing is he's a little slow compared to Pandolfo and Madden.

And the 3rd line of the Sabres was much more offensive oriented. They really didn't have a checking line, per se.

As for my proposed lines, I really like the idea that somebody brought up about Gionta on the Madden line. I think it could really work:

Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner (I have no idea why this was broken up in the first place)
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta (Line becomes a serious offensive threat as well)
Rupp-Zajac-Zubrus (Big boy line, with a real Center in the middle)
Asham-Brylin-Clarkson (Another big line with the exception of Brylin)

As long as I don't see Brylin on a top line again, I'll be fine whatever way Sutter goes. But it's stupid to break up the Elias line. Everyline goes through their struggles. We need a line that scares the opponent during the playoffs. And that line is the closest thing we got.

Don't pay him to much mind... Nieds27 kinda thinks "outside the box". Just be thankful we are past the trade deadline, so we have until the summer for the next one of his special trade proposals.;)


If the box is broke, let's fix it. I think it got damaged by UPS. At least it is insured! ;)

A little line juggling never hurt anyone. And major line juggling never hurt anyone, either. At least for a few games.

Sorry you don't like my Niedermayer avatar. I was going to change it, but since he is back and playing, I wanted to pay homage to him for a little while. I'll get a current Devil player up there soon!

BTW, I did not have any outrageous deadline deals. I really wanted to stand pat. Acquiring Manny Malhotra was not very radical IMO.

I don't want any trades. I want signings! Possibly Wade Redden and Marian Hossa. I'll surprise you guys when it is time.

And Tallackson is scoring down at Lowell. He shoots and he scores!!! Bergfors shoots and doesn't score. That is a bit of a problem. And he played part of one game in the NHL. Big deal. I still don't know why Noah Clarke was sent down after scoring a goal in his first and only game as a Devil this year. Were they punishing him for scoring? :sarcasm: Did he miss a backcheck?

Geez Louise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shakehead

Parise-Elias-Bergfors
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Clarkson-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Asham-Rupp-Zubrus
Brylin

So... My ideal line-up, for max offense...

Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Bergfors-Zajac-Clarkson
Zubrus-Rupp-Asham
(Brylin)

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek
(Brookbank-Greene)

Based on our conversation in the other thread, I thought I would check out your post.. gotta say I like those lines. Mine are pretty close to that but I'm not including Bergfors since I don't think we'll be seeing him this year:

Parise-Elias-Clarkson
Zubrus-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Brylin-Rupp-Asham

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek/Greene

I really want to put Salvador and Martin together but I'm even more terrified of the prospects of a Rachunek/Oduya pairing. :eek:

Parise-Elias-Clarkson
Zubrus-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Brylin-Rupp-Asham




i like those lines as well..........

Based on our conversation in the other thread, I thought I would check out your post.. gotta say I like those lines. Mine are pretty close to that but I'm not including Bergfors since I don't think we'll be seeing him this year:

Parise-Elias-Clarkson
Zubrus-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Brylin-Rupp-Asham

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek/Greene

I really want to put Salvador and Martin together but I'm even more terrified of the prospects of a Rachunek/Oduya pairing. :eek:

Have to say, since our line-up will likely not change for the rest of the season (unless due to injury), and I agree therefore Bergfors is a stretch to be called-up, and is likely not physically or mentally ready at this point anyway...

Those "real world" lines are pretty much ideal. And Brylin and Zubie can rotate pretty easily in that construct, should Sutter want to go "big" with the 4th line.

And, as has been noted previous, we agree up and down about the defensive pairings.

Nice work.;)

How much is it to watch AHL games online?

I think it's around $6.

Have to say, since our line-up will likely not change for the rest of the season (unless due to injury), and I agree therefore Bergfors is a stretch to be called-up, and is likely not physically or mentally ready at this point anyway...

Those "real world" lines are pretty much ideal. And Brylin and Zubie can rotate pretty easily in that construct, should Sutter want to go "big" with the 4th line.

And, as has been noted previous, we agree up and down about the defensive pairings.

Nice work.;)

That's a good point, Sutter has the ability to mix some lines around depending on the opponent. If we were to play, say Buffalo, I'd rather we have Brylin on the 2nd line and when we play Philly have Zubrus. I would also use the same philosophy when deciding whether to use Greene(BUF) or Rachunek(PHI).

Don't worry people! Help is on the way! Rod Pelley was recalled today and is here to the rescue!








:sarcasm:

watch the highlights of the red wings vs sabres last night and just watch how creative the wings are with the puck, i only wish the devils would be half that creative. i mean thats just looking at prime highlights of ONE GAME, imagine watching a whole wings game. just look at their second goal, have you ever seen the devils even try a play that is bing-bang-boom like that???

watch the highlights of the red wings vs sabres last night and just watch how creative the wings are with the puck, i only wish the devils would be half that creative. i mean thats just looking at prime highlights of ONE GAME, imagine watching a whole wings game. just look at their second goal, have you ever seen the devils even try a play that is bing-bang-boom like that???
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ok i meant this season not past seasons lol

Don't worry people! Help is on the way! Rod Pelley was recalled today and is here to the rescue!

Sure, sounds good. We can have him center a line with Greene and Rachunek.:sarcasm:

Based on our conversation in the other thread, I thought I would check out your post.. gotta say I like those lines. Mine are pretty close to that but I'm not including Bergfors since I don't think we'll be seeing him this year:

Parise-Elias-Clarkson
Zubrus-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Brylin-Rupp-Asham

Martin-Oduya
White-Mottau
Salvador-Rachunek/Greene

I really want to put Salvador and Martin together but I'm even more terrified of the prospects of a Rachunek/Oduya pairing. :eek:

I like those lines alot, but I'd rather have Langs on the first line with Parise and Elias. I strongly feel that we should keep those guys together because they're the closest thing we have to a "scary" line in the playoffs. But I freakin' love that Madden line.

My lines would be:
Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Zubrus-Zajac-Clarkson
Brylin-Rupp-Asham

The bottom two lines are both pretty physical lines that will come in extemely handy come playoff time. They can be big matchup problems for some teams that aren't big upfront. Buffalo and the Rangers come to mind here. I dont think they match up well with those bottom lines.

I like those lines alot, but I'd rather have Langs on the first line with Parise and Elias. I strongly feel that we should keep those guys together because they're the closest thing we have to a "scary" line in the playoffs. But I freakin' love that Madden line.

My lines would be:
Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Gionta
Zubrus-Zajac-Clarkson
Brylin-Rupp-Asham

The bottom two lines are both pretty physical lines that will come in extemely handy come playoff time. They can be big matchup problems for some teams that aren't big upfront. Buffalo and the Rangers come to mind here. I dont think they match up well with those bottom lines.

I agree that the 1st line still works with Langs in place of Clarkson. The line loses some sandpaper but gains a sniper. The 3rd line really suffers though from losing it's sniper and replacing it with a physical guy when Zajac and Zubrus can throw some hits out there. Not bad lines at all, but we'd only have 2 legit scoring lines in that scenario.

I agree that the 1st line still works with Langs in place of Clarkson. The line loses some sandpaper but gains a sniper. The 3rd line really suffers though from losing it's sniper and replacing it with a physical guy when Zajac and Zubrus can throw some hits out there. Not bad lines at all, but we'd only have 2 legit scoring lines in that scenario.

Don't forget that Langenbrunner is far from a softy. He's a tough player and I don't you lose that much in the way of toughness when you replace Langs with Clarkson. Yes you lose an agitator in Clarkson, but Langs is a proven playoff performer who could do major damage playing on a skilled line in the postseason.

I agree that the Zajac line does lose its sniper in Langenbrunner. I think that Bergfors would be an intersting fill-in. Maybe putting him with Zubrus and Zajac can create some offense as well.

These lines should be adapted either way towards what matchup we end up facing in the first round.

Do you think the fans of the Ducks, Canucks, Sharks, Blue Jackets, Blues, and Islanders all complain as much as Devils fans about their offense?? They are all even or below the Devils in goals scored..Last i checked the Ducks were the defending cup champs and favorites to repeat??

Don't forget that Langenbrunner is far from a softy. He's a tough player and I don't you lose that much in the way of toughness when you replace Langs with Clarkson. Yes you lose an agitator in Clarkson, but Langs is a proven playoff performer who could do major damage playing on a skilled line in the postseason.

I agree that the Zajac line does lose its sniper in Langenbrunner. I think that Bergfors would be an intersting fill-in. Maybe putting him with Zubrus and Zajac can create some offense as well.

These lines should be adapted either way towards what matchup we end up facing in the first round.

Yeah it definitely wasn't a knock on Langs, he is far from soft. It's just that as a captain he can't take the kinds of risks/penalties Clarkson does, and the main reason (as we both mentioned) is the impact it will have on the 3rd line. Bergfors isn't a bad idea, but I see that happening more in the preseason next year than in the playoffs now. The good news is we have enough NHL ready spare parts to adjust for injuries/opponents in the playoffs.

Do you think the fans of the Ducks, Canucks, Sharks, Blue Jackets, Blues, and Islanders all complain as much as Devils fans about their offense?? They are all even or below the Devils in goals scored..Last i checked the Ducks were the defending cup champs and favorites to repeat??
The Isles board right now is in mutiny mode, so dont compare this to that.

Do you think the fans of the Ducks, Canucks, Sharks, Blue Jackets, Blues, and Islanders all complain as much as Devils fans about their offense?? They are all even or below the Devils in goals scored..Last i checked the Ducks were the defending cup champs and favorites to repeat??

The Canucks? Have you ever read some of their stuff? They complain about their offense like there's no tomorrow.

The Ducks is a terrible example. Their offense has picked up drastically with the return of Selanne and I'll take a subpar offense when you have that defense behind it.

The Blue Jackets fans complain too, as do Blues fans. I suggest reading the main forums once in awhile.

Yeah it definitely wasn't a knock on Langs, he is far from soft. It's just that as a captain he can't take the kinds of risks/penalties Clarkson does, and the main reason (as we both mentioned) is the impact it will have on the 3rd line. Bergfors isn't a bad idea, but I see that happening more in the preseason next year than in the playoffs now. The good news is we have enough NHL ready spare parts to adjust for injuries/opponents in the playoffs.

None taken with Langs. And I agree about the point with Bergfors-we probably won't see him compete for a starting spot till next year, but it is something Lou and Sutter should consider if the offense doesn't pick up (although I do think the scoring will).

And as you said, if injuries do happen we have alot of guys who can play multiple forward positions so it won't be too difficult to adjust. Brylin can play all 3 positions as can others.

The Canucks? Have you ever read some of their stuff? They complain about their offense like there's no tomorrow.

The Ducks is a terrible example. Their offense has picked up drastically with the return of Selanne and I'll take a subpar offense when you have that defense behind it.

The Blue Jackets fans complain too, as do Blues fans. I suggest reading the main forums once in awhile.

Just tired of the whiners.....get so old..so fast. Lesson learned = message boards are places for whiny fans to congregate. Got it.

The Isles board right now is in mutiny mode, so dont compare this to that.

Hey, if we lay an egg tomorrow, there's two days of mutiny mode awaiting!

Especially when the people who have pet project minor leaguers who could step in and solve ALL of our problems and cure cancer, to boot.... realize that Pelley got recalled today. Not their pet projects.

Do you think the fans of the Ducks, Canucks, Sharks, Blue Jackets, Blues, and Islanders all complain as much as Devils fans about their offense?? They are all even or below the Devils in goals scored..Last i checked the Ducks were the defending cup champs and favorites to repeat??

I don't think either of those teams have been shutout as much as us.

Our problem is we don't score at all, explode for 15 goals in 3 games and then the well runs dry again.

Hey, if we lay an egg tomorrow, there's two days of mutiny mode awaiting!

Oh please no. It's the only Devils game I'm going to this year and I'm already 0-7 combined in Montreal,Toronto,Vancouver with me in attendance.. I probably shouldn't have said that since I'll get blamed if we lose.. but whatever.

I don't think either of those teams have been shutout as much as us.

Our problem is we don't score at all, explode for 15 goals in 3 games and then the well runs dry again.

Hence that ugly C-word that keeps getting used on the pre-game every time they quote someone this year... consistency.

I don't think either of those teams have been shutout as much as us.

Our problem is we don't score at all, explode for 15 goals in 3 games and then the well runs dry again.



Oh please no. It's the only Devils game I'm going to this year and I'm already 0-7 combined in Montreal,Toronto,Vancouver with me in attendance.. I probably shouldn't have said that since I'll get blamed if we lose.. but whatever.
Its all on you now Randal.

I don't think either of those teams have been shutout as much as us.

Our problem is we don't score at all, explode for 15 goals in 3 games and then the well runs dry again.

Right, thats the mark of an inconsistent team, and not for nothing, constantly screaming at the group/ridiculous practices are only going to go so far. There is a point when its just not going to work anymore, and I think we are at that point. The forwards we currently have are not enough to win consistently, so I really don't see a reason to not try something like bringing Bergfors up. We aren't going to win as it is, why not give it a shot??

I agree that the Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner line needs to be put back together. Maybe Sutter needs to be reminded that this was the Devils best line last season and there was plenty of offense from that line. Just that the other lines couldn't keep up. I also think in giving Clarkson a run with Elias and Gionta. It could bring more offense. Move Zubrus to the 3rd line with Pandolfo and Madden. Madden is having a good season and maybe he could give Zubrus a spark here since he has been a bust this season for the Devils.

Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Gionta-Elias-Clarkson
Pandolfo-Madden-Zubrus
Asham-Rupp-Brylin


White-Mottau (or Rachunek)
Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Greene (or Vishnevski)

Its all on you now Randal.

I'll take the risk.. My absolute hatred for the Leafs should be fuel enough to get us at least 10 goals.... Hey, if my butt's on the line might as well go big ;)

Watch for a big night from Madden, though they always lose when I'm there, Madden tends to score at least once each game. :thumbu:

Right, thats the mark of an inconsistent team, and not for nothing, constantly screaming at the group/ridiculous practices are only going to go so far. There is a point when its just not going to work anymore, and I think we are at that point. The forwards we currently have are not enough to win consistently, so I really don't see a reason to not try something like bringing Bergfors up. We aren't going to win as it is, why not give it a shot??

Sometimes, when you're stuck in a hole the best thing is to climb out yourself and not yell for help. That way, if you get stuck in another one in the future you might get out easier/quicker. The point i'm trying to make is that this team as is are the only ones who can, and have to fix this if they plan on competing for a cup.

My biggest problem with them is that they don't change the gameplan when it goes sour. The Devil's offense relies on one thing above all else, crisp passing. When the passing is off (I think of Parise's constant puck bobbling against Montreal recently) the team should look at just shooting the puck whenever the opportunity presents itself. Have the puck carrier shoot, the other two forwards rush the net and see what happens.. its certainly better than watching the pass jump off their stick and an odd man rush go the other way.

Watch for a big night from Madden, though they always lose when I'm there, Madden tends to score at least once each game. :thumbu:



Madden always has strong games against the leafs... :yo:

Madden always has strong games against the leafs... :yo:

True, like Marty, he loves beating up on his hometown.

im just throwing things together at this point and heres some combos i havent seen brought up:

gionta-elias-langenbrunner (gio would have to move to left but oh well)
parise-zajac-zubrus (kinda like PZL last year, great on cycling and puck possession)
pandolfo-madden-asham (asham adds grit and experience to that line)
brylin-rupp-clarkson (hard working)

True, like Marty, he loves beating up on his hometown.
We know how well that's worked for Marty this season...

Any chance you can sit this one out Randal? :(

The Isles board right now is in mutiny mode, so dont compare this to that.

i went to that game, and to anyone who ever said devils hockey was boring has never been to a 53 save snorefest

I like how Ranger fans call us boring but they have less Goals then we do as a team.

I like how Ranger fans call us boring but they have less Goals then we do as a team.
But itz on Broadwayzzz!!!!!
And remember, they dont care about us, thats why they attend Devils vs Panthers.

We know how well that's worked for Marty this season...

He's hardly the problem if the team puts up one goal.

Any chance you can sit this one out Randal? :(

If it makes you feel better I'll cheer for the Leafs :D

Eww. The thought of it makes my skin crawl..

Not that he's going to help the offense, but apparently Pelley was re-called on loan today from Lowell....Didn't see it posted anywhere else....If he gets into a couple more games soon, I can graduate him off the Top 20 list!

im just throwing things together at this point and heres some combos i havent seen brought up:

gionta-elias-langenbrunner (gio would have to move to left but oh well)
parise-zajac-zubrus (kinda like PZL last year, great on cycling and puck possession)
pandolfo-madden-asham (asham adds grit and experience to that line)
brylin-rupp-clarkson (hard working)

ya know, considering Sutters willingness to shake up the lines and Gionta's streaky production I'm surprised Sutter hasn't tried moving Gionta to the left side. He had Elias make a far bigger transition moving to center and that worked well.

I'm forgetting exactly which game it was, but it was recent. The game that Gio got the game winner in OT, granted it was 4 on 4 but Langenbrunner and Gio were the 2 forwards on the ice, and I just remember thinking that although it was for only about 30 seconds how good they looked together. It got me thinking since then. So just to piggy-back off your lines...

Parise-Elias-Zubrus
Gio-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Pando-Madden-Brylin
Asham-Rupp-Clarkson

I say why not? Parise was moved back and forth between left wing and center early on, Elias was moved to center, Brylin's been all over the place, Asham's played both wings, Zubrus has played everywhere, Madden's played left wing, Pelley's played left wing, Rupp's been bounced around...

I don't see the harm in giving Gionta a shot on left wing for 1 or 2 games.

Gionta doesn't play LW because he's right handed. If he plays Left wing he's going to be receiving passes on his backhand and he won't be able to take quick slapshots without pivoting first. That's why left wings are such a pain to draft in fantasy pools. :)

Elias can transition to center because regardless of which handedness you are you still have half the ice surface on your backhand.

Gionta doesn't play LW because he's right handed. If he plays Left wing he's going to be receiving passes on his backhand and he won't be able to take quick slapshots without pivoting first. That's why left wings are such a pain to draft in fantasy pools. :)

Elias can transition to center because regardless of which handedness you are you still have half the ice surface on your backhand.

It may force Gio not to take those shots from way out right into the chest of the goalie and actually have to crash the net where he's best ;)

You'd think Gio would go to the net more since those are the only goals he's scoring

Gionta doesn't play LW because he's right handed. If he plays Left wing he's going to be receiving passes on his backhand and he won't be able to take quick slapshots without pivoting first. That's why left wings are such a pain to draft in fantasy pools. :)

Elias can transition to center because regardless of which handedness you are you still have half the ice surface on your backhand.

While I see what you're saying there are plenty of right handed shots that have played the left wing, such as Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Whitney, Frolov, Vanek, and Shanahan just off the top of my head, but there's more.

Plus as mentioned, what's gotten redundant and annoying is Gionta burning down the right side and putting it right in the goalie's chest. If he's on the left side and his forehand is away from the boards, it might force him to try to drive the net a little more instead. Mogilny made a living as a left handed shot on the right wing, moving into the slot and ripping it. With Gio's elusiveness and speed maybe he could do similar things?

I personally love playing the off-wing because rather than get driven to the outside to stay on your forehand, you can cut across inside the blue line and let your other winger crash the net and shoot from mid-slot area (just like a one timer on the power play from the point when they play off their normal side).

I really think this style would favor both Langenbrunner, Brylin, and Gionta who all rarely get to drive the slot or challenge the Defense inside - and normally stay wide to the outside and take a shot from there or try to pass cross ice.

Richer was an off-winger for most of his career - often playing the left wing with that cannon slapper. :thumbu:

While I see what you're saying there are plenty of right handed shots that have played the left wing, such as Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Whitney, Frolov, Vanek, and Shanahan just off the top of my head, but there's more.

Plus as mentioned, what's gotten redundant and annoying is Gionta burning down the right side and putting it right in the goalie's chest. If he's on the left side and his forehand is away from the boards, it might force him to try to drive the net a little more instead. Mogilny made a living as a left handed shot on the right wing, moving into the slot and ripping it. With Gio's elusiveness and speed maybe he could do similar things?

True, its not a bad idea at all. I was thinking about that breakout of his being effected, but it really hasn't produced much this year.

I personally love playing the off-wing because rather than get driven to the outside to stay on your forehand, you can cut across inside the blue line and let your other winger crash the net and shoot from mid-slot area (just like a one timer on the power play from the point when they play off their normal side).

I really think this style would favor both Langenbrunner, Brylin, and Gionta who all rarely get to drive the slot or challenge the Defense inside - and normally stay wide to the outside and take a shot from there or try to pass cross ice.

Richer was an off-winger for most of his career - often playing the left wing with that cannon slapper. :thumbu:

Well then of course you had to play off wing :)

You definitely need to have a strong backhand to play like that otherwise you making a lot of extra movements you wouldn't have to on your "right" side. But what do I know, I was a goalie.. we didn't meddle in such trivial things :snide:

Just to add, Zubrus is a natural RW, and the goals he used to score for Washington, were from the off wing. Until they played him at center at least.

Pandolfo - Madden - Zubrus must be put back together come playoffs.

Also, if we experiment with youth, I hope Bergie is called up. But he can wait till next season.

Parise - Elias - Langenbrunner
Gionta - Zajac - Clarkson
Pando - Madden - Zubrus
Brylin - Rupp/Pelley - Asham

Well then of course you had to play off wing :)


Ahhh I've been revealed! Where's the cameras... I was only going to talk about it - I swear.

http://www.samuraisoapbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/catchapredator.jpg

Right, thats the mark of an inconsistent team, and not for nothing, constantly screaming at the group/ridiculous practices are only going to go so far. There is a point when its just not going to work anymore, and I think we are at that point. The forwards we currently have are not enough to win consistently, so I really don't see a reason to not try something like bringing Bergfors up. We aren't going to win as it is, why not give it a shot??

Why are you asking us? Why is anybody posting it on the boards? If you want the coaches to know that, write them a letter.

Don't posted on here cause you'll just be criticized, analyzed and then whined at.

You want radical ideas? how about one from Stan himself?


Defenseman Andy Greene -- scratched too often to suit me -- skates well, has a good shot and loves to shoot. Convert him to a winger on the Madden Line and either move Sergei Brylin to the fourth line or scratch him altogether simply for a rest.

Greene may not be a forward by roster-listing but he has all the instincts for one and, at least he shoots the puck and seems to enjoy doing so.


http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/2008/03/devils-doctor-.html

You want radical ideas? how about one from Stan himself?



http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/2008/03/devils-doctor-.html

Ha, he'll be our version of Mark Streit

Ha, he'll be our version of Mark Streit

Or Byfuglien :naughty:

You want radical ideas? how about one from Stan himself?

http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/2008/03/devils-doctor-.html

The man has lost it...

And his man-love for Rupp is only paralleled by Chico's man-love for DiPietro... :sarcasm:

Did you see my post? I suggested we dress Brodeur as a forward and have him play next to Zubrus and Zajac :sarcasm:

Gionta doesn't play LW because he's right handed. If he plays Left wing he's going to be receiving passes on his backhand and he won't be able to take quick slapshots without pivoting first. That's why left wings are such a pain to draft in fantasy pools. :)

Elias can transition to center because regardless of which handedness you are you still have half the ice surface on your backhand.

I believe Brendan Shanahan played left wing and he shoots righty. Also, he has had a pretty good career. Lots of right wings who shoot lefty, Jagr, Hossa, Rocket Richard!!! ;)

Aaron Asham looks comfortable on the left side and he is a righty shot. Stephane Richer was a righty shot who played the off wing.

And don't forget the great Claude Vilgrain who played left wing and shot righty!!!

Hey, some can play the "off wing" and some can't. It never hurts to experiment. As long as we win!!!

Later my bros...:thumbu:

I have wanted Gionta on Madden's wing FOREVER, as that line is all speed and opportunity, but no finish. With a speedster/garbageman like Gio, he can keep up with Madden and Pando's pace, and be there to clean up their mess. And with Gionta already a solid part of the PK rotation, he obviously can handle the defensive assignments. That line could be great together, essentially becoming our #2 by default.


Your prayers have been answered...

per TG;

Sutter said he liked the way Brian Gionta played with Jay Pandolfo and John Madden on Saturday, so I would bet on that line staying together tonight.

:devdance::cheer::vhappy::cheer::devdance:

Or Byfuglien :naughty:

Byfuglien is a monster. I watch all of the Blackhawks highlights and he's a raw talent, but what a body. He could be something really special if he just gets used to being a forward. I wish the Devils could have him.

Or Byfuglien :naughty:

Byfuglien is a monster. I watch all of the Blackhawks highlights and he's a raw talent, but what a body. He could be something really special if he just gets used to being a forward. I wish the Devils could have him.

And of course if we ever got him, we'd be 4/6 of the way there from being able to put out an all black starting lineup.

Lets trade for Iginla and sign Anson Carter!

Your prayers have been answered...

per TG;

:devdance::cheer::vhappy::cheer::devdance:

Hey-yooooo! :yo::yo::yo::yo::yo:

Hey-yooooo! :yo::yo::yo::yo::yo:

http://www.geocities.com/nwostng/hall55.jpg

Pandolfo - Madden - Gionta played some of the 2003 playoffs together, after Langenbrunner moved to the Nieuwendyk line. Stevenson also played on that line. They were at their best defensively with Stevenson, but Gionta definitely helped their offense. That's a group that just needs to use their speed to get chances and get to rebounds.

if the devils need offense it should be defencive prospect eckford. he has a point in all of his games except one. that would boost offence along with bergfors or vrana.