GDT: Wed. Feb 6th - Devils @ Sabres 7:00 PM FSNY

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Everyone participated in today's practice. Left wing Jay Pandolfo said he had no negative effects after playing Monday for the first time since Nov. 28.
Right wing Cam Janssen (right shoulder surgery) did make the trip with the team -- his first road trip of the season -- but is not expected to play against the Sabres. Martin Brodeur will start again in net.

Today's line combinations and defense pair:
Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner
Zubrus-Zajac-Gionta
Pandolfo-Madden-Clarkson
Rupp-Pelley-Brylin
Asham-empty-Janssen.
White-Mottau
Oduya-Martin
Vishnevski-Rachunek
Greene-Brookbank


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Beating the New Jersey Devils over the past few years has been very difficult for the Buffalo Sabres. Taking them to a shootout this season certainly hasn't provided the winning formula. The Sabres hope to avoid getting swept in a season series by the Devils for the first time in a decade on Wednesday night when the teams meet at HSBC Arena.

New Jersey has dominated the series with Buffalo lately, going 16-4-0 with three ties since the start of the 2001-02 season. The Devils' three victories over the Sabres this season have decided in a shootout. Buffalo (24-21-7) hasn't lost all four games to New Jersey in a season series since 1997-98. The Sabres' last meeting with the Devils was one of their most frustrating losses of the season as they squandered a two-goal lead before losing 3-2 in a shootout at home on Jan. 12.

After falling behind 3-1 in the third period, New Jersey (30-20-3) appeared headed for its fourth loss in five games Monday against Pittsburgh. The Devils, though, got goals from Patrik Elias and David Clarkson less than two minutes apart midway through the final period and Zach Parise scored 37 seconds into overtime for a 4-3 victory.
Instead of completing a 1-4-0 homestand, New Jersey brings a two-game winning streak to Buffalo before returning to the Prudential Center for four straight games.

"It wasn't reinventing the wheel," said Parise, who had two assists to go with his 20th goal. "We had to put forth a better effort and we did in the third. Hopefully we saw the way we need to play." Elias had a goal and two assists in the win, giving him six goals and four assists in his past six contests. Also contributing offensively is captain Jamie Langenbrunner, who has three goals and five assists during a seven-game point streak.

The Devils, who trail Atlantic Division-leading Philadelphia by two points, have outscored opponents 14-6 during a three-game road win streak. Buffalo continued its strong play of late with a 4-2 victory Tuesday at Boston. Daniel Paille scored twice and Ryan Miller stopped 30 shots for the Sabres, who are 4-0-1 in their last five games - all on the road - after winning just once in the previous 13 overall contests (1-7-5).

"After the first two games (of the road trip), we knew we needed to pick it up," Paille said. "We're not in a playoff spot yet, so we've got to keep it up." The victory moved Buffalo up to 10th in the Eastern Conference, four points behind Boston for the eighth and final playoff berth. Miller's outstanding play is one reason for the Sabres' resurgence. He is 4-0-0 with a 1.50 goals-against average in his last five starts, and has also played very well in three starts this season against the Devils, yielding four regulation goals on 90 shots. Jason Pominville has also played a key role for Buffalo, tallying two goals and five assists in his last three games. He leads the team with 32 assists and 45 points.

god bless mommy and daddy, scraps whos the cutestest puppy in the world and let kevin weekes start

Nice GDT RG!!

oh and according to TG, Marty's starting again.:shakehead

I can't wait to see the Parise - Elias - Langenrunner combination for a full game. Jamie brings that physical aspect to that line and I still don't understand why people keep on saying that Langs is perfect on a line with Pandolfo and Madden. We need our top guys playing top minutes... period. Gionta is no longer the smurf of the past and that's why he got downgraded to the 2nd line and Jamie got moved up.

Looks like Andy Greene is getting shafted once again for Vishnevski... that's sad. With all that sayd, I think the Devils will win this game 5-2. The Sutter ":rant:" beetween the 2nd and the 3rd of last game will carry on in this one and they'll play one of they're best games of the season.

LET'S GO DEVILS (ta...ta....tatata) LET'S GO DEVILS (ta...ta....tatata) !!!

god bless mommy and daddy, scraps whos the cutestest puppy in the world and let kevin weekes start

I agree we need to give weekes a start here....and awesome job RG keep up the good work....Wheres Puddy you guys need to team up and make MEGA GTD'S Voltron style

You know what Marty always says, "Every time I go to the rink, I might as well play hockey."

ready for another shootout...........

ready for another shootout...........

damn someone beat me to it. I rather have brodeur than weekes in the shootout duhhhh. Starty marty tonight!!!!! omg im going to the game saturday i hope he doesnt get the rest then. The last 3 games ive been to he has got 3 straight shutouts.

Solid game from the Devils tonight.

4-0 Devils.

Elias, Parise, Madden and Clarkson with the goals.

I have no problem with Marty playing tonight, it's when he plays both games of a back to back against teams like the Kings that I get pissed.

It's interesting that the Devils have won all three previous games in the serious but a Sabres player has been the first star in all of them. Hopefully the Devils finish off the season series with a win and go into the weekend with some momentum.

Finally got High-Def, looking forward to watching this game tonight, just hope it doesn't get ugly for the Devils, especially in high-def. :D

Finally got High-Def, looking forward to watching this game tonight, just hope it doesn't get ugly for the Devils, especially in high-def. :D

Nothing is ugly in hi-def ;)

Great GDT!

I'll only be able catch the 3rd period of this since I have work tonight. :( I'm hoping to be surprised though, just like I was on monday night.

:devdance:LETS GO DEVILS!!:devdance:

Nothing is ugly in hi-def ;)

I don't care how big a hi def TV you have, our power play is still hideous.

I don't care how big a hi def TV you have, our power play is still hideous.

I dunno, its pretty damn big. In HD, even Oduya's "pinching" looks good :biglaugh:

I dunno, its pretty damn big. In HD, even Oduya's "pinching" looks good :biglaugh:

Haha, actually is the game even in hi def tonight? I know most of the road games aren't.

I hope the Devils are able to ride the momentum wave after the come from behind win against Pittsburgh. Buffalo is hot right now but they played last night in Boston. So, the Devils SHOULD be the more rested, prepared team tonight.

I agree we need to give weekes a start here....and awesome job RG keep up the good work....Wheres Puddy you guys need to team up and make MEGA GTD'S Voltron style

If David "Mr. Stats" Puddy would like to assemble one of his awesome projects I'd be glad to insert them into the opening post. :thumbu:

GTD? ;)

who was the one that made that really funny gdt with all the edited pics with captions, that was hilarious haha

who was the one that made that really funny gdt with all the edited pics with captions, that was hilarious haha

I remember that, wasnt it against Boston, that weird one with only a few hundred people in attendance?

Lets win it in regulation this time, for ***** and giggles.

who was the one that made that really funny gdt with all the edited pics with captions, that was hilarious haha

That was Weeonta's I believe.

That was Weeonta's I believe.

Bingo! - Could have been the hardest & longest I've ever laughed at a post on HF.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=453484

:biglaugh:

I can't wait to see the Parise - Elias - Langenrunner combination for a full game. Jamie brings that physical aspect to that line and I still don't understand why people keep on saying that Langs is perfect on a line with Pandolfo and Madden. We need our top guys playing top minutes... period. Gionta is no longer the smurf of the past and that's why he got downgraded to the 2nd line and Jamie got moved up.

Looks like Andy Greene is getting shafted once again for Vishnevski... that's sad. With all that sayd, I think the Devils will win this game 5-2. The Sutter ":rant:" beetween the 2nd and the 3rd of last game will carry on in this one and they'll play one of they're best games of the season.

LET'S GO DEVILS (ta...ta....tatata) LET'S GO DEVILS (ta...ta....tatata) !!!

Greene isn't getting shafted. Right now, Vishnevski brings hitting to the lineup and Rachunek brings a decent shot from the point. What has Greene been bringing?

Greene isn't getting shafted. Right now, Vishnevski brings hitting to the lineup and Rachunek brings a decent shot from the point. What has Greene been bringing?

Not much since he's played once in about the last 20 years...

We need a shutout tonight, we have given up 3+ goals in the last 6 straight games! Not devils hockey! I would love to have Elias continue his great play and Parise keep up with the points. It seems like that first line of Parise-Elias-Langenbrunner is hot right now, hopefully they remain together for the entire game, and, if all goes well, the rest of the season. The all have chemestry which is great to see! They all also hustle which will produce goals, scoring chances, and powerplay opportunities.

Looks like Andy Greene is getting shafted once again for Vishnevski... that's sad. With all that sayd, I think the Devils will win this game 5-2. The Sutter ":rant:" beetween the 2nd and the 3rd of last game will carry on in this one and they'll play one of they're best games of the season.

Greene has played in 2 fewer games than Oduya but still has more TOI than Oduya AND Vish. How is that getting shafted? Greene also has more PP TOI than Oduya, but the same number of PP points. IIRC, Greene and Vish have amount the same amount of PK TOI (although Vish has played more games), but I’m fairly sure that Vish has been on the ice for fewer of the other team’s PP goals. Vish also has more hits and blocked shots.

Greene has played in 2 fewer games than Oduya but still has more TOI than Oduya AND Vish. How is that getting shafted? Greene also has more PP TOI than Oduya, but the same number of PP points. IIRC, Greene and Vish have amount the same amount of PK TOI (although Vish has played more games), but I’m fairly sure that Vish has been on the ice for fewer of the other team’s PP goals. Vish also has more hits and blocked shots.

It's pretty hard for a young guy to get better if he's watching from the press box instead of actually playing some D. Vishnevski is a good hitter but that's about it. He goes for that big wammy but at the same time, takes himself out of the play and generates alot of odd men rushes the other way. To me, Greene is a more complete player then Vish and isn't Andy supposed to be part of our future ??? if so, why don't we let him play in order to "fix" what needs to be "fixed"

You know what Marty always says, "Every time I go to the rink, I might as well play hockey."

hmmmmm where have i seen that quote before?:sarcasm:

ill be there tonight like always, section 104 row 8 right next to the sabres tunnel.

So a shootout win tonight I am guessing? lol

So a shootout win tonight I am guessing? lol

Yep - this time the Sarge goes backhand upstairs FTW.

It's pretty hard for a young guy to get better if he's watching from the press box instead of actually playing some D. Vishnevski is a good hitter but that's about it. He goes for that big wammy but at the same time, takes himself out of the play and generates alot of odd men rushes the other way. To me, Greene is a more complete player then Vish and isn't Andy supposed to be part of our future ??? if so, why don't we let him play in order to "fix" what needs to be "fixed"
I don’t think there’s any guarantee that Greene will be part of the Devils’ future. Actually, Vish is signed for three years, while Greene is signed for two. Either way, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

I’m actually surprised at how many people are slamming Vish so much. Did you guys have especially high expectations for a guy who is more or less a reclamation project? I don’t really see Vish as responsible for odd-man rushes (our forwards, on the other hand…). I do think his physical edge is his strong point, but he also plays on the PK and block shots. People get on his case for screening Marty or deflecting in shots, but even Colin White has done that. Greene might have a lot of potential, but I think that Rachunek and Vishnevski, even Oduya, are bringing more to the team right now.

Don't get me wrong; I really liked Greene's play last year and he drank the Lou-aid, but he had chances earlier in the season to make a case for himself to stay in the line up, when he was playing and Oduya/Rachunek/Vishnevski weren’t, but he lost it. As much as people get on Oduya and Vishnevski for messing up, Greene has had his share of brainfarts and bad games.

I don’t think there’s any guarantee that Greene will be part of the Devils’ future. Actually, Vish is signed for three years, while Greene is signed for two. Either way, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

I’m actually surprised at how many people are slamming Vish so much. Did you guys have especially high expectations for a guy who is more or less a reclamation project? I don’t really see Vish as responsible for odd-man rushes (our forwards, on the other hand…). I do think his physical edge is his strong point, but he also plays on the PK and block shots. People get on his case for screening Marty or deflecting in shots, but even Colin White has done that. Greene might have a lot of potential, but I think that Rachunek and Vishnevski, even Oduya, are bringing more to the team right now.

Don't get me wrong; I really liked Greene's play last year and he drank the Lou-aid, but he had chances earlier in the season to make a case for himself to stay in the line up, when he was playing and Oduya/Rachunek/Vishnevski weren’t, but he lost it. As much as people get on Oduya and Vishnevski for messing up, Greene has had his share of brainfarts and bad games.

The thing is though, when Oduya's out there I'm a complete nervous wreck. When Andy's out there, I'm not.

And the Vishnevski/Rachunek pairing scares the crap out of me as well!

But my money was invested in an Andy Greene jersey and that's why I keep singing his praises and that's why I want him out there.

The thing is though, when Oduya's out there I'm a complete nervous wreck. When Andy's out there, I'm not.

And the Vishnevski/Rachunek pairing scares the crap out of me as well!

But my money was invested in an Andy Greene jersey and that's why I keep singing his praises and that's why I want him out there.
I know how you feel. Toward the end of last season I invested in a Rafalski jersey. We all know how that turned out though.

The Vish/Rachunek pairing scared me at first, but they’ve been growing on me. I actually liked the Vish/Greene pairing too, but it seemed to me that they never clicked together that well. Mottau and Greene scare me the most when they’re on the PK, but I’m on with Vish out there.

And see, that’s the point I was trying to make when I posted those numbers. A lot of people seem to think that Greene is being shafted, but numbers-wise he’s really not. He got a lot more time during the first half of the season. So it’s conceivable that he’ll get another chance once Rachunek or Oduya starts to really suck, but recently, both of those guys have been playing pretty well.

Yep - this time the Sarge pulls a Datsyuk fake and then proceeds to put the puck in the top left corner with the stick between the legs.
Fixed. :)

The best pairing was the Martin-Greene pairing. That was during our 9 game winning streak.

I hated the 3 year Vishnevski signing when it first happened and I still hate it now. I don't understand why Lou couldn't have gave him a Rachunek-like 1 year deal. He's a very replacable player that seems like he's unfortunately going to stick around.

Fixed. :)

And immediately afterwards Coach Sutter gives all the players heart shaped box of chocolates for valentines day with a note saying "I love you guys soooooo much." which inspires Chico to declare the same to Doc as he rips off his rug and gives him a grossly awkward man-hug.

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I don’t think there’s any guarantee that Greene will be part of the Devils’ future. Actually, Vish is signed for three years, while Greene is signed for two. Either way, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

I’m actually surprised at how many people are slamming Vish so much. Did you guys have especially high expectations for a guy who is more or less a reclamation project? I don’t really see Vish as responsible for odd-man rushes (our forwards, on the other hand…). I do think his physical edge is his strong point, but he also plays on the PK and block shots. People get on his case for screening Marty or deflecting in shots, but even Colin White has done that. Greene might have a lot of potential, but I think that Rachunek and Vishnevski, even Oduya, are bringing more to the team right now.

Don't get me wrong; I really liked Greene's play last year and he drank the Lou-aid, but he had chances earlier in the season to make a case for himself to stay in the line up, when he was playing and Oduya/Rachunek/Vishnevski weren’t, but he lost it. As much as people get on Oduya and Vishnevski for messing up, Greene has had his share of brainfarts and bad games.

I have serious Vish issues -- or Vissues for short -- but he has been improving slowly and steadily under Larry Robinson's system, deflecting far fewer pucks on net, picking his spots better, etc.

He worries me a lot less than he used to, and like most people on these boards, I think we don't smash people in the mouth nearly enough. That's why I love White and Clarkie... And have been disappointed in Asham. But Vish at least brings that sorely needed aspect of the game.

Rachunek and Greene play a similar puck moving style, both with a big shot from the point. They are in many ways redundant players, although Rachunek is more experienced. Karel is on a one year contract, so I imagine his spot will go to Greene "full time" next season if Andy isn't traded at the deadline.

But swapping Greene for Vish makes much less hockey sense to me, and apparently to Brent Sutter as well.

Yep - this time the Sarge goes backhand upstairs FTW.

That would be awesome to see. So do I get to watch today? :biglaugh:

Fixed. :)

Thats even better :biglaugh::yo:

Lets Go Devils!

Get the win tonight to keep up in the division with the Flyers and Penguins. Devils looks to sweep the season series from the Sabres. The last three wins via the shoot out.

The Sabres haven't played at home in a while..so I'm pretty sure they'll be pumped up. They played last night, so that might work in the Devils' favour, but then again it might not...just look at what happened against the Rangers.

Hopefully the Devils start this game on a strong note, not like the last time we faced them. Buffalo scored on us right away. We're a much better team when we have the lead, even if hasnt looked like it the past few games.

We need these points, I don't care how we get them...just do it! Hopefully the Caps can beat the Flyers tonight too.

GO DEVILS!!

shootout:sarcasm:

lets keep this going, 3-1 devils......LETS GO DEVILS!!!

Shooooooooooootout

man marty starting again, he should have gotten a rest for this game, i think weekes get the nod for the ducks game, but ....


LETS GO DEVILSSS :devdance::devdance::devdance:

Great Marty video:

http://devils.nhl.tv/team/embed?type=fvod&id=8004

Great Marty video:

http://devils.nhl.tv/team/embed?type=fvod&id=8004
Ahah, that was a great video! It even showed some of his past saves instead of just the most recent ones.

Great Marty video:

http://devils.nhl.tv/team/embed?type=fvod&id=8004

awesome video..........I have feeling Marty will have some of those tonight.

Ahah, that was a great video! It even showed some of his past saves instead of just the most recent ones.

Yeah I know! The famous saves against Gilchrist and Mogilny are in there...and also the one against the Flyers when he makes a spectacular glove save and then does the full split....amazing. :)

man marty starting again, he should have gotten a rest for this game, i think weekes get the nod for the ducks game, but ....


LETS GO DEVILSSS :devdance::devdance::devdance:

lol right :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

The Devils seem to do fairly well against the Sabres save for solving Ryan Miller. I expect this game to go to a shootout. Three guesses as to who wins that shootout.

I'll have to cut out after 9 PM, though; USA-Mexico is on TV tonight, and if you want to see a rivalry that's bigger than NYR-NJ (at least to supporters of El Tri), there you are.

GO DEVILS!

USA-Mexico is on TV tonight,
For what sport?

For what sport?

Soccer.

And before you roll your eyes: The US has beaten Mexico in ALL games outside of Mexico since 1999. In soccer.

The streak could very well end tonight; but it could also end up 2-0 in favor of the US. (2-0 - the official score of the US-Mexico rivalry)

What u guys think of Elias Parise Langs line?

Soccer.

And before you roll your eyes: The US has beaten Mexico in ALL games outside of Mexico since 1999. In soccer.

The streak could very well end tonight; but it could also end up 2-0 in favor of the US. (2-0 - the official score of the US-Mexico rivalry)

It's a rivalry because they're jealous of our freedom.

LET'S GO DEVILs!!!!

****ing deflection.

****. Not a good start.

same start :shakehead

ridiculous

Failed to clear the puck, and then comes the deflection!

That's a terrible way to start a game. I can understand why White didn't cover him closely, as that would have totally screened Brodeur. Still sucks though.

It's a rivalry because they're jealous of our freedom.

You don't know what you're talking about, just stop typing.

That's a terrible way to start a game. I can understand why White didn't cover him closely, as that would have totally screened Brodeur. Still sucks though.



You don't know what you're talking about, just stop typing.

I was being sarcastic, [edited]

The MPC line just had a ton of possession time down deep in the Sabres zone, but nothing to show for it.

What Devils are we going to see this period?

I just realized Sutter reminds me a little of Pat Burns, in terms of accountability and work ethic.

I hate being down 1-0 before I can even turn the game on. It happens all the ****ing time.

I know it's hard to do consistently but we need to play more physical against teams, the games we have done so we've had excellent results for the most part in terms of being able to dominate the play.

I'm always impressed with Ryan Miller's goaltending.

I'm always impressed with Ryan Miller's goaltending.

I agree. Very underrated.

****..we're not getting any bounces....

Damn I hate these kind of starts....the game has barely started and we're already behind. I'm sick of these starts...

WARNING

Doc just referred to a save by Marty as Chechmanek-esque. Take caution!

END WARNING

I'm always impressed with Ryan Miller's goaltending.

I would be if his pads were smaller but he is one of 4 with huge pads lol

Another good shift from the Madden line.

what the **** just happened?

Bah, Devils going to the PK.

Good job Mike Rupp. Was it really worth laying on a guy and holding him down? Was it worth it?

Where's my finger waving smiley?

no discipline by Rupp there...dammit...

Good job Mike Rupp. Was it really worth laying on a guy and holding him down? Was it worth it?

Where's my finger waving smiley?

He was protecting his teammate. I'll give him a pass.

Stupid Rupp just get up

He was protecting his teammate. I'll give him a pass.

He already finished the check, there was no need to lay on him - which is what likely the penalty was actually for. He should have gotten up and going.

Why in the world is my DirecTV not showing me the game - I demand these temporary technical difficulties to become easy and no longer a problem!

FIXED: I'll just watch it in SD then. Good job HD crew.

Marty!!!!!!!

white-mottau have been gross so far

white-mottau have been gross so far

They need to stop being paired together

wow Zajac put a decent hit on Hecht :handclap:

We better not be going on PK again

Will the Devils score here? We'll see.

Good they got bs call now we get one so its all even up now.

Powerplay! This is our "lucky bounce"

wow I think that's the first time Bambi falling on his face actually worked in our favor. :amazed:

Gionta really pisses me off! he's useless!

Chico's talking about how Kevin Weekes has really helped Clarkson with his offensive game, giving him tips on what to do. Interesting.

damn the White-Mottau pairing really is looking awful.

Langenbrunner, shoot.

This will be shootout game defiantly

Get rid of Gionta for a pick!! I wouldn't mind it now....call up Bergfors! He'd bring more offense than #14....

This will be shootout game defiantly

defiantly? ;)

I dunno, we need to pick it up in the second if we even plan on scoring. Miller has been on his game the last game or two, and he's looking to be on it tonight as well. If we can't even get shots to the net, we can forget about even scoring.

defiantly? ;)

I dunno, we need to pick it up in the second if we even plan on scoring. Miller has been on his game the last game or two, and he's looking to be on it tonight as well. If we can't even get shots to the net, we can forget about even scoring.

I believe miller was on his game the last 3 times we played them was he not? The end results to those games were?

is Chico a moron. Did you guys see what vanek did to clarkson. Pretty much a cheapshot. If that wasnt a peanlty guys around the league would be doing that every play. Not only was vanek hitting him but it was away from the play and could be called interference or holding because they didnt let clarkson go. How is that not a peanlty. I dont get it. You cant just keep a guy there and keep hitting him and not let him go. Chico you never make sense.

It was called a peanlty btw but chico refered to it as a noogie.

Wow that is what Rich Chere looks like. The Star Ledger really needs to update their picture of him.

Poor period.

- Langenbrunner is not moving his feet at all... what is up with him?
- Gionta has relegated himself to never going down the middle again apparently...
- We appear content to leave the Sabres points wide open to shoot at will.

Another 20 minutes of this and I predict another Sutter motivation speech. :rant:

Pick it up boys.

I believe miller was on his game the last 3 times we played them was he not? The end results to those games were?

we also needed periods with more than 4 shots on goal to do it. I stand by what I said.

is Chico a moron. Did you guys see what vanek did to clarkson. Pretty much a cheapshot. If that wasnt a peanlty guys around the league would be doing that every play. Not only was vanek hitting him but it was away from the play and could be called interference or holding because they didnt let clarkson go. How is that not a peanlty. I dont get it. You cant just keep a guy there and keep hitting him and not let him go. Chico you never make sense.

It was called a peanlty btw but chico refered to it as a noogie.


Whoa whoa whoa! No one hates on Chico! Chico says lots of silly stuff and a lot more stuff that doesn't even come close to making sense but thats why we love him. And everyone knows Chico loves players being allowed to play.

So i guess now, according to the new rules, it's only a slash if someones stick breaks? :help:

The Devils get stuck for too long in their own end far too often.

That last shift was the passive crap I can't stand.

Looks like they're killing a penalty, takes a minute to clear the zone and they get in trouble a billion times.

Madden playing center defenseman there.

Ugh, this game is putting me to sleep.

And what is this amateur hour with the camera job?

I swear these damn Saber forwards are everywhere and there is no effort from our defense its a miracle the Sabers haven't scored again.

I swear these damn Saber forwards are everywhere and there is no effort from our defense its a miracle the Sabers haven't scored again.

Could clearly see the box there. I can't see how Sutter can be mad at them.

nice flop by miller :biglaugh:

I guess we'll just have to wait until the middle of the 3rd for anything to happen.

what the hell is this!?

Pick it up!!

I swear these damn Sabre forwards are everywhere and there is no effort from our defense its a miracle the Sabres haven't scored again.

It's not a lack of effort, it's the system they're playing.

We have looked like crap in our own end. Not surprising.

Whoops. Blown coverage. Vish didn't rotate. That's why they can't play Julienball.

That faceoff shouldn't have even been in our own end stupid refs

Sigh....2-0.

what a ****ing joke!!

That's not a goal!!

they can't screw this up!

here comes another inconsistent review call.

Damn, I didn't realize that was off the skate.

If it was the Devils I'm sure it would be a no goal.

well if that was us it be no goal lol

Don't see the Devils making another 2 goal comeback...I hope this gets overturned.

Watching that a few times, I think something like that should always be ruled a goal, but sometimes that is called a goal and sometimes it isn't and it's damn frustrating.

If Mottau's is no goal, so is this one....

edit: of course it's a goal.

Don't see the Devils making another 2 goal comeback...I hope this gets overturned.

Right like monday too huh? Devils never are out of it. Because u could say the same thing Monday too.

that's a ****ing joke!!! there's no way that's a goal!!

GOD I HATE THIS ****ING LEAGUE!!

Anything that forces them to play hockey, at this point, is better. They have a better chance winning this game down 3 than down 1.

It's not a lack of effort, it's the system they're playing.

I think it may be part of the system and a lack of talent and effort as well. I love paul Martin but i watched him just skate around in his zone instead of working it to another player. I watch time and time again players just skating around in the zone.

Any way no surprise on that Sabre goal. When their in your zone for close to six of the 8 minutes of the period its bound to happen. Sigh

Someone explain to me how that is ANY different than the goal that was disallowed by Mike Mottau earlier this year? Mike's was even less a turn of his skate than that one.

BS - just allow ALL goals off skates or NONE. This is a joke to waffle back and forth on the interpretation of this rule.

If Mottau's is no goal, so is this one....

edit: of course it's a goal.
exactly, and why the **** was the puck in the offensive zone, it wasnt an intentional offsides :rant:

Right like monday too huh? Devils never are out of it. Because u could say the same thing Monday too.

Read again. I said "another" meaning two in a row. It's possible, but tough to do. Eventually you're going to get bit in the ass from playing like **** for two periods.

I am so damn sick of the Devils playing flat and looking like crap. Sutter cannot kick their ***** after every single period, at some point they have to take responsibility and motivate themselves.

You make your own luck, I guess. A terribly inconsistent call on the goal but I don't see it making a difference the way we're playing right now. Maybe it will light a little fire for the team.

Or maybe Vishnevski will just get laid out by Kaleta for the 300th time.

exactly, and why the **** was the puck in the offensive zone, it wasnt an intentional offsides :rant:

Another valid point. They didn't play it knowing it was offsides... they thought he kept it in.

I think it may be part of the system and a lack of talent and effort as well. I love paul Martin but i watched him just skate around in his zone instead of working it to another player. I watch time and time again players just skating around in the zone.

Any way no surprise on that Sabre goal. When their in your zone for close to six of the 8 minutes of the period its bound to happen. Sigh

Well, yeah, talent comes into play. Can't make mistakes like Vish made there, if that's the kind of hockey you're going to play. You give up alot of offense to try and keep pucks out of the net. If pucks are going in the net, what you are doing is useless.

Lift the damn puck GIO!!

man gionta cant even buy a goal right now:help:

Miller another huge pad save is all.He didnt see that at all lol

Right like monday too huh? Devils never are out of it. Because u could say the same thing Monday too.

Are you watching the game? Cuz if you are you should stop right now. Didn't it help against the Penguins?

get the shot up you stupid ****!!

Wasn't there a point in his career where, even when scoring garbage goals, gio liked to shelf it?

Oh yeah, pretty sure he fell 2 short of 50 that season. Maybe he should look into the past. :shakehead

I am so damn sick of the Devils playing flat and looking like crap. Sutter cannot kick their ***** after every single period, at some point they have to take responsibility and motivate themselves.

Sutter should kick his own ass. He's playing Julienball with a weak group of D. What can you reasonably expect?

If you think that was a one-way discussion the other night, you're nuts.

Players don't play lazy crappy freelance hockey by playing box + 1. Coaches would kill for players who would freelance defensive hockey. It just doesn't happen.

They are doing what they are told, poorly. Because their weakness is getting stressed by whoever's brilliant idea it was to bring back the Julien system.

we're 2:nd on everything in this game...losing faceoffs..battles...

This team is really unbelievable sometimes....:shakehead

THis if freaking BS

I can't believe I'm saying this about a Devils team but they are undisciplined.

You know what...Clarkson should be benched the rest of the game for that..what a stupid move...

How many times have we've been dicked over by those tools reviewing goals. There is absolutely no consistancy.

see, marty can still score.

these refs are ****ing stupid, a sabre charges a devil yet they dont call it ***, its getting to the point its not even funny anymore

alright Karel....steppin it up!

Looks like the same script as last game.

Alright WOOOOOOOT see :)

Ohhh, that was a nice setup. Rachunek has a great shot.

new game now

No freakin way, we scored a goal!

nice goal by rachenck :yo:

Looks like the same script as last game.

ya see lol..........Its all good

Rachunek gambled big-time there. Get ready to ride the bike, Karel. You're not allowed to jump in the play.

I like it when our Dmen join the rus hgood things seem to happen, hint hint. Hopefully this sparks the devs.

good job there too by Gionta! Good job by Devilswede to piss Gio off ;-) Keep that going pal

Nice play, good pass by Gio, bit risky givin it to Rachunek but he delivered. Big goal after a decent kill!

Karl with a twisted wrister!

did lyndy ruff and sutter call each other before the game to see what they were wearing so they could match?

and doc called micheal ryan bobby ryan and i was like WHAT when did they get him?

Devils are back lol......Guess they finally woke up today.

those point shots just have to get through.....

Off topic but I didn't want to start a new thread. Is Madden a UFA this summer or is he signed through next year? Also, what is his cap hit?

good job there too by Gionta! Good job by Devilswede to piss Gio off ;-) Keep that going pal

I seem to have a knack for that don't I?! :)

what a stupid ****ing offside call. these refs eat ****.

I seem to have a knack for that don't I?! :)

yes keep it up plz :)

There was the system again. One forechecker, Madden, only guy in the offensive zone, when there was no change.

Off topic but I didn't want to start a new thread. Is Madden a UFA this summer or is he signed through next year? Also, what is his cap hit?

I believe he is under contract for next season but i could be wrong and i think his hit is around 3 I'm sure someone else can be more specific

Can anyone tell me why Zubrus is still in the lineup? The guys got like 8 goals, same as Pando who was out for 30 games.

And there it is again. One Devil on the offensive side of the redline.

Can anyone tell me why Zubrus is still in the lineup? The guys got like 8 goals, same as Pando who was out for 30 games.

I've got 3.4 million reasons why.

I say clarkson ties it again with a wrap around.

Can anyone tell me why Zubrus is still in the lineup? The guys got like 8 goals, same as Pando who was out for 30 games.

Who would you like to see in his place?

And there it is again. One Devil on the offensive side of the redline.

ANd funny thing is, the only Devils goal they scored so far, they were aggressive and pushed up the ice instead of just clearing it.

Can anyone tell me why Zubrus is still in the lineup? The guys got like 8 goals, same as Pando who was out for 30 games.

May not bring the numbers but He has size and is great with what he can do. Didnt u see what he did last game.

3-1-1 it...**** defense.

7 good minutes of hockey so far out of 40 and only down 1 (although it should be 1-1 tie at this point taking away BS kick in).

Based on recent trends we're going to win 3-2. :sarcasm:

Can anyone tell me why Zubrus is still in the lineup? The guys got like 8 goals, same as Pando who was out for 30 games.

Because he's one of the few Devils that have played really well recently although he isn't showing up on the stat sheet. The best thing about Zubrus is he doesn't make to many mistakes and he can for forceful in the offensive zone plus he has good size and plays well in the corners.

this team just continues to make it hard on themselves...so inconsistent...they just can't play well for 60 minutes. It's impossible....

Off topic but I didn't want to start a new thread. Is Madden a UFA this summer or is he signed through next year? Also, what is his cap hit?

http://www.nhlscap.com/salarynumbers/newjersey.htm

Another year after this one.

Can anyone tell me why Zubrus is still in the lineup? The guys got like 8 goals, same as Pando who was out for 30 games.

because he's effective even when he's not on the score sheet?

ANd funny thing is, the only Devils goal they scored so far, they were aggressive and pushed up the ice instead of just clearing it.

Yep. Took a huge gamble, puck turns over, Clarkson is a D-man, because he has no chance of getting to the bench.

Sutter has been lobotomized. The best part is that he's got everyone totally sold that it's the players crappy efforts. :)

They're forechecking one and giving free entry and rallying around Marty. That. Is. Julienball. Play 5 on 5 like you're killing a penalty. Only problem is that our D is prone to screwups and can't clear the zone.

If you're scared of the Sabres putting 10 on you, fine, whatever. But how in the world are you going to score on them by rolling up in a ball when they're infinitely quicker?

Gio gets his patented rush up the wing and there's 3 guys back because he led out with the puck, no support because everyone else was rolled in a ball.

There's nothing wrong with gambling. Karel's gamble was a big one, though.

Can anyone tell me why Zubrus is still in the lineup? The guys got like 8 goals, same as Pando who was out for 30 games.

It pisses me off when people judge a player only by their point production. He hasn't been producing much, but he's been beastly along the boards.

because he's effective even when he's not on the score sheet?

and the fact he's stronger on the puck than pretty much everyone on the team in the offensive zone.

the Lacrosse goalies in these commercials kind of look like JS-Giguere. :biglaugh:

http://www.nhlscap.com/salarynumbers/newjersey.htm

Another year after this one.

Looking at those numbers we are stealing Jamie at 2.8! I didn't realize it. He's a 3.5-4 million kind of guy IMO.

Looking at those numbers we are stealing Jamie at 2.8! I didn't realize it. He's a 3.5-4 million kind of guy IMO.
Pretty sure he has at least a partial ntc, or something like that...

Yep. Took a huge gamble, puck turns over, Clarkson is a D-man, because he has no chance of getting to the bench.

Sutter has been lobotomized. The best part is that he's got everyone totally sold that it's the players crappy efforts. :)

They're forechecking one and giving free entry and rallying around Marty. That. Is. Julienball. Play 5 on 5 like you're killing a penalty. Only problem is that our D is prone to screwups and can't clear the zone.

If you're scared of the Sabres putting 10 on you, fine, whatever. But how in the world are you going to score on them by rolling up in a ball when they're infinitely quicker?

Gio gets his patented rush up the wing and there's 3 guys back because he led out with the puck, no support because everyone else was rolled in a ball.

There's nothing wrong with gambling. Karel's gamble was a big one, though.

I think the inconsistent play has been 50% players and 50% Sutter. The Devils consistently come out with slow legs, but I don't like how Sutter's system has evolved from Game 1 to game 54. You're right, it's too akin to Julien's system last year.

We actually have alot of good transition players on this team who can skate. This isn't a slow team. Elias, Parise, Gio, Langs, Madden are all guys who can really move up the ice, yet we're bogging down too much.

For anyone listening to the radio broadcast, I believe that one Mr. Everson is on.

Who would you like to see in his place?

Put Weekes in. Double shift somebody? Call someone up? Take a big dump and put some skates and a jersey on it. Hell, skate shorthanded, I don't care he sucks. The guy brings absolutely nothing to this team. 3.4 mil, thanks for reminding me, now I'm really pissed. I don't care how big he is or how he's strong on the puck until he puts up some numbers other that his rediculous salary.

I'm going to keep ripping him until he does something, it worked with Zajac.
:sarcasm:

Put Weekes in. Double shift somebody? Call someone up? Take a big dump and put some skates and a jersey on it. Hell, skate shorthanded, I don't care he sucks. The guy brings absolutely nothing to this team. 3.4 mil, thanks for reminding me, now I'm really pissed. I don't care how big he is or how he's strong on the puck until he puts up some numbers other that his rediculous salary.

I'm going to keep ripping him until he does something, it worked with Zajac.
:sarcasm:

Have you watched any games recently or do you just look at boxscores?

Put Weekes in. Double shift somebody? Call someone up? Take a big dump and put some skates and a jersey on it. Hell, skate shorthanded, I don't care he sucks. The guy brings absolutely nothing to this team. 3.4 mil, thanks for reminding me, now I'm really pissed. I don't care how big he is or how he's strong on the puck until he puts up some numbers other that his rediculous salary.

I'm going to keep ripping him until he does something, it worked with Zajac.
:sarcasm:

i just got back from work....whoa whatd i miss???

who we tallkin about now? zubrus or something? haha

CRAP! Philly ties it up against the Caps.

For anyone listening to the radio broadcast, I believe that one Mr. Everson is on.

Wow what a difficult interview. Loughlin did well.

Wow what a difficult interview. Loughlin did well.
Especially at the beginning. Everson could barely talk properly. I wonder if that's how he usually is or if he was drunk.

Have you watched any games recently or do you just look at boxscores?

Yea, seriously.

So far so good. Come on Devils turn it on again.

where is the trip on vanek ????

another example of poor coaching there. Buffalo ices the puck and Sutter sends out the 4:th line....:shakehead

I think the inconsistent play has been 50% players and 50% Sutter. The Devils consistently come out with slow legs, but I don't like how Sutter's system has evolved from Game 1 to game 54. You're right, it's too akin to Julien's system last year.

We actually have alot of good transition players on this team who can skate. This isn't a slow team. Elias, Parise, Gio, Langs, Madden are all guys who can really move up the ice, yet we're bogging down too much.

The forwards, I think, are the teams strength other than Marty. Relative strength, but strength nontheless.

I think the players do share some blame because there's some sort of lethargy or confusion out there. I mean, that system is not difficult to play, anyone who played kiddie basketball should understand it. Apparently, Vish never played kiddie basketball.

Tap-ins in Julienball are beyond inexcusable. But when those things happen, you have to wonder if it's the best concept for this team.

Geez, Devils had some great chances there.

wow nice job there come one devils!!!!!!

D doesn't engage there. giving them big problems with only 3 attackers. 4, and maybe it's a goal. doesn't matter now, because they scored.

mikey ****ing Mottau

Goal! See what happens when the defense gets involved?

mottau with the goall :yo:

SCORE!!!!!!!!! Mottau with a GREAT play on BOTH ends!

It sneaks in!

ALRIGHT woot (see devils4cup) :)

Look, another defenseman joins the rush and leads to a nice goal.

LIFT THE PUCK!! hitting miller in the leg pad doesn't equal goals it just gives Miller a sore ankle.

GOALLLLLL!!!!!!

tie game!!

Ummm...we scored? :amazed:

Wooo! Kalinin. 2-2.

Now if the D can only do this everygame GO DEVILS GO...........WOOT PP Devils on Fire now. So I wonder what Sutter said :biglaugh:

Especially at the beginning. Everson could barely talk properly. I wonder if that's how he usually is or if he was drunk.

I was wondering the same. I thought he was going to say he started in the fifties not the seventies. He got going once he started talking about himself. Matt had to get him on track about covering hockey. Hardly said anything about getting put on the Devils' beat. Definitely not a radio voice.

Good for a laugh.

2-2!

Radio late.

Mottau? Madden?

Power Play Devils coming up

PP coming up for the Devils. I'm not going to get my hopes up.

ALRIGHT woot (see devils4cup) :)

Yeah so far I've jinxed the Devils, but they need one more goal for a complete comeback.

huge pp

Alright PP! Good job 4th line!

Let's get the PP boys!!

GO DEVILS!!

Wow, the D is finding the net tonight!

Good thing I got this period recorded. I'll be lookin' to yous for the updated game.

Penalty on the Sabres. I think its a hook didn't look like much at first glance but I'll take it.

Now if the D can only do this everygame GO DEVILS GO...........WOOT PP Devils on Fire now. So I wonder what Sutter said :biglaugh:

I thinks it's a matter of letting the system do it.

It s kind of ridiculous to see how much we can score if only our D men stop thinking D first all the time, and join the rush for a change....Keep it up boys!

thank you Kalinin.

Kalinin put that goal in on his own team

I thinks it's a matter of letting the system do it.

ya ya ya u just dont want to admit it. But its ok though :)

Our defencemen actually kept the puck in the zone on a PP:amazed:

Have you watched any games recently or do you just look at boxscores?

I've followed this team since they came to NJ and have watched just about all the games this year. Please enlighten me to what he does that deserve that salary. The guys been bouncing from team to team his whole career and now we're the next team to get suckered into thinking he's going to break out.

Sure he's had a few games where he looked really strong but there hasn't been any consistancy. If you think going out there and not making any bad mistakes makes him a good player I just don't agree. That might be a good way to judge Cam Janssen but not a 6'5" supposedly offensively skilled forward.

booooooooooo Brodeur is not allowed to pokecheck.

oduya wow :amazed: great play there

O plz stop boooing lol

How do you not pick Pominville up? Nevertheless nice recovery by Oduya.

Jesus guys, pay some attention to the guy coming out of the box.

Nice job by Oduya to get the puck.

Wow, did Pominville mess up there. Great sweep by Oduya; Pominville mainly fell on his own there.

brilliant play by Oduya

Nice play by...
...Oduya

Who the F is that wearing #29 for the Devils?!

Someone Stick Pork Tenderloin Down Jennerat's Throat!!!! Shut Up!!!

Oduya with a great play? Impossible! :sarcasm:

oduya again :handclap:

Oduya again with a nice intercept

haha. Buffalo fans whine as much as Carolina