GDT: Bronze Medal Game: United States - Russia, Jan 5th, 10.00 AM EST

Chimp
01-05-2008, 09:06 AM
Still no thread for this game and it's starting in one hour. The bronze medal game, the game nobody cares about. Which team will show the most effort to get that bronze?

United States
http://www.brothersofholycross.com/calendar/american-flag.gif
Players to look out for:
#12 James van Riemsdyk
#33 Colin Wilson

vs

Russia
http://fourbordersexpedition.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/russia_flag.png
Players to look out for:
#11 Viktor Tikhonov
#21 Nikita Filatov

My money is one the Americans. I think I've never seen a Russian team doing anything in a bronze medal game. I also think United States have the better team out of the two.

Den
01-05-2008, 09:09 AM
No thread, because nobody cares anymore

Bloggins
01-05-2008, 09:13 AM
I'll be watching. Good luck to both, but a little bit more to team USA.

3-1 USA

Chimp
01-05-2008, 09:13 AM
I do, because I'm real curious on Bobby Sanguinetti, a Rangers defense prospect. ;) He's got the goods, really talented.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 09:15 AM
If the US Dmen don't move the puck quicker the Russians will score in bunches.

I feel both teams will show heart and it will be a good game to watch.

Prediction 3-2 USA

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 09:29 AM
I will not predict a result but this should be a good game!

To the North Americans: Do think that USA will win 5-0 against Russia??? Or is it only you think that Sweden is a bad team?

#11_THEBEST!
01-05-2008, 09:38 AM
I will not predict a result but this should be a good game!

To the North Americans: Do think that USA will win 5-0 against Russia??? Or is it only you think that Sweden is a bad team?

No one here thinks that Sweden is a bad team...Provide me one quote where someone said that.....Sweden is a great team and winning Gold is the only acceptable thing for them as they're great.....They've realy good offense and they're the best team in this tournament.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 09:46 AM
I will not predict a result but this should be a good game!

To the North Americans: Do think that USA will win 5-0 against Russia??? Or is it only you think that Sweden is a bad team?

People are just talking smack with ya!

Sweden is very good. Feel better?

Remember, there is no pouting in hockey

hak
01-05-2008, 09:54 AM
I will not predict a result but this should be a good game!

To the North Americans: Do think that USA will win 5-0 against Russia??? Or is it only you think that Sweden is a bad team?

STHLM can you please stop posting? All posts i've seen from you is the same garbage and it's annoying as hell

I think usa will win. Russia have a tendency to lose alot of focus and ambition when gold is out of the picture

Game starts in 5min..

mercury
01-05-2008, 09:57 AM
Well, the Americans have a chance to medal, and that is a consolation. The big thing for me is that JVR has been playing out of his mind. SOME people in Philly were really pissed when he was picked 2nd overall, but he has done nothing but shine since. It's very exciting for the future.

Davebo
01-05-2008, 10:05 AM
The following TSN feed is now working, so it looks like you can watch this game online, if you like....

mms://a24.l4537754023.c45377.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/24/45377/v0001/reflector:54023

AkageNoKeri
01-05-2008, 10:08 AM
STHLM, I'm getting really tired of your posts. Somehow you think all Americans and Canadians here hate Sweden, and it's your mission to convert them to the Sweden-loving side. And your posts are superweak. Just shut up, please.

I think the US will win this one, but it will probably be a tight game.
I think the americans are gonna have an easier time scoring than the Russians...

Marc the Habs Fan
01-05-2008, 10:13 AM
Woah, props to TSN for showing 3 random hot chicks attending a bronze medal game.:yo:

The main conclusion I draw from this tournament is that Czech girls look terrific, hehe.

1-0 Russia on Cherry's goal.

TCIH
01-05-2008, 10:13 AM
Bad start for the US. Cherepanov scores, 1-0.

Chimp
01-05-2008, 10:15 AM
Weird penalty, since they let go of the icing.

This game has started with higher intensity than I anticipated. Seems both teams are here to play.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 10:16 AM
1-0 to Russia! The question is: how good is really USA??? But let see what happen!

nyrfan444
01-05-2008, 10:19 AM
I'm really getting tired of this SportChek commercial

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 10:19 AM
Since they moved to the "medal round" format, the Russians have won 2 bronze, and the US 1. The Russians actually won the first two bronze under the new format (96, 97) and have been too busy playing for Gold or Silver most years since. I'm surprised to see them come out skating so well after a tough OT loss yesterday. I do think that the US will get their legs going late in the 1st or in the 2nd, and I think this will come down to the wire.

nyrfan444
01-05-2008, 10:24 AM
sigh...dumb penalties and subpar goaltending, the story of the lst 2 days

let's get one back boys

PatTraverse
01-05-2008, 10:24 AM
Smith is bad.

Chimp
01-05-2008, 10:24 AM
Wow, that's a weak goal. The American goaltender accidentally put it in the net by himself.

Big slope just formed in front of the Americans, but hey, it's 50 minutes left to play.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 10:25 AM
2-0 to Russia! USA, what are you doing????

dkatzism
01-05-2008, 10:27 AM
2-0 to Russia! USA, what are you doing????

Crying.

Cyclops II*
01-05-2008, 10:27 AM
Smith is bad.

Got it in one. The US goaltender is terrible. He gave up at least 2 bad goals against Canada. With a decent goaltender it would likely have been a nail biter. He should not have started today.

Whitesnake
01-05-2008, 10:27 AM
That American defense is all over the place........and there's no leadership at all on this team. A little adversity and that's how they respond? Hopefully it will make them review how they select their players next time.

And I love how the coach adapts himself from situations. Nothing is working, still he's sticking with the same lines and some old strategies.....good job coach....

Pacioretty was on the ice twice, still he had a great scoring chance. How about these other superstars on this team? Nobody is there in front of the price to pay the price and take the rebounds while it's Pacioretty's strength. I know he's hurt but parking himself in front of the net is not exactly the most demanding thing for the leg...

PatTraverse
01-05-2008, 10:29 AM
That American defense is all over the place........and there's no leadership at all on this team. A little adversity and that's how they respond? Hopefully it will make them review how they select their players next time.
Pretty hard for the D to be confident when their goalie is simply bad.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 10:33 AM
That American defense is all over the place........and there's no leadership at all on this team. A little adversity and that's how they respond? Hopefully it will make them review how they select their players next time.

And I love how the coach adapts himself from situations. Nothing is working, still he's sticking with the same lines and some old strategies.....good job coach....

Pacioretty was on the ice twice, still he had a great scoring chance. How about these other superstars on this team? Nobody is there in front of the price to pay the price and take the rebounds while it's Pacioretty's strength. I know he's hurt but parking himself in front of the net is not exactly the most demanding thing for the leg...

Your right D Sucks. Fairchild is making some bad decisions on the powerplay

AkageNoKeri
01-05-2008, 10:33 AM
I didn't like the US goalie in the US-Canada game, and I am not liking him so far in this game. The goals he lets in doesn't seem that untakeble..

dkatzism
01-05-2008, 10:34 AM
I am very happy watching this game as a Ranger fan.

nyrfan444
01-05-2008, 10:34 AM
beautiful play by Cherepanov

PatTraverse
01-05-2008, 10:34 AM
3-0

This is over.

Josie Grossie
01-05-2008, 10:34 AM
Wow, USA is in a big hole now.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 10:34 AM
3-0 to Russia!

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 10:35 AM
3-0

This is over.

Yup! Done:shakehead

BenIgnorant
01-05-2008, 10:35 AM
I'm pretty pissed off by USA's effort in the medal rounds this tournament. I wasn't impressed by the team they selected but this is just awful. I can barely watch it, this is so bad.

Aeryn
01-05-2008, 10:35 AM
I should have stayed in bed. :(

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 10:38 AM
Yup! Done:shakehead

Well, itīs still a lot of time to play! But it looks very bad for USA!

jkrdevil
01-05-2008, 10:41 AM
They look like they just don't care and want to get back home ASAP. This has been just an embarissing meltdown since that first Canadian goal yesterday.

Whitesnake
01-05-2008, 10:41 AM
Pretty hard for the D to be confident when their goalie is simply bad.

Even if your goalie would be Theodore, there's no reason to be beaten and creating tons of turnovers like they did. You can say that it's hard for the forwards to try to create anything offensively since you know that it won't mean a lot 'cause you'll be scored on. But Smith, as bad as he looks, wouldn't look as bad with a much better defense in front of him.

It's still 2-0. Is the game done? How is the 3rd one Smith's fault? The whole defensive play of this squad sucks but their defense moreso. I thought that "sticking with the program" was an advantage over players that didn't 'cause they had a better unity, and worked better as a team? Sure.....

Aeryn
01-05-2008, 10:44 AM
They look like they just don't care and want to get back home ASAP.
Yep. :shakehead

I can deal with losing - I won't deal well mind you, but I could get over it - so long as there's the appearance of some effort!!

Choice
01-05-2008, 10:45 AM
Yep. :shakehead

I can deal with losing - I won't deal well mind you, but I could get over it - so long as there's the appearance of some effort!!

Whatever they're kids and its a bronze medal game.

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 10:46 AM
Since the Canadians took a 2-0 lead yesterday, there's been a total defensive breakdown for Team USA. They at least continued effort yesterday, today, just flat. Too bad, but I can understand, it's tough to play Defence, when you have zero confidence in your netminder. As a Canucks fan, we dealt with that for YEARS with the goalie revolving door until Luongo.

helicecopter
01-05-2008, 10:48 AM
I love how McGuire took his 15th or something view of Voinov to realize he has a strong one timer from the blueline :rolleyes:

and i see Russian coach is sticking to his brilliant strategy of NOT using Cherepanov and Filatov as his 1st PP unit.. :shakehead
yes, the other unit scored today by coincidence, but the way they run their PP time it's not even close.

anyway, Cherepanov looking pretty good today uh? :sarcasm:

deandebean
01-05-2008, 10:48 AM
They don't care because they wanted the gold. Just like Canada wouldn't (and never did) care about a bronze medal game. This is where the US program is at: just like Canada, it's gold or nothing.

they lost the bronze yesterday. It was obvious, watching the faces after the game. They had lost the war, not just the battle. Some of them had been brash about their annual confrontation with Canada all season long (go ask Turris). They lost everything they wanted yesterday.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 10:49 AM
Well, itīs still a lot of time to play! But it looks very bad for USA!

I dont doubt that the team will turn some momentum their way and have a few good shifts, hopefully two good periods but this team has no heart. There should be some players seeing some bench time in this game. Defense is a joke!

The National Dev Program has developed a bunch of spoiled players with no heart. Handed everything, Strength coaches, skating coaches, dieticians, great travel accomodations, etc.

There is something to be said for a player who continues his development on his own by shooting thousands of pucks in his basement by himself. Or going to the rink and just playing shinny and working on skating/puckhandling with friends. Give me the player who isn't asked at 16 years old to play for the development program who works on his skills relentlessly to achieve a higher skill set at age 18/19

CanuckistanFlyerfan
01-05-2008, 10:50 AM
Too bad, but I can understand, it's tough to play Defence, when you have zero confidence in your netminder. As a Canucks fan, we dealt with that for YEARS with the goalie revolving door until Luongo.


I really feel sorry for you.


Sincerely...Flyers fan.

Paxton Fettel
01-05-2008, 10:50 AM
awesome game so far. the ref offered the US the first 2 PPs (pathetic calls, especially when they missed the icing call), but they wer pretty useless.

Cherep and Filatov are great players.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 10:51 AM
Whatever they're kids and its a bronze medal game.

And lack of effort shouldn't be tolerated even with a 12 year old. Effort is the only thing you can control in a game.

Paxton Fettel
01-05-2008, 10:52 AM
They don't care because they wanted the gold. Just like Canada wouldn't (and never did) care about a bronze medal game. This is where the US program is at: just like Canada, it's gold or nothing.

they lost the bronze yesterday. It was obvious, watching the faces after the game. They had lost the war, not just the battle. Some of them had been brash about their annual confrontation with Canada all season long (go ask Turris). They lost everything they wanted yesterday.

don't believe everything that the commentators say.

it's the Russians that don't care about this game. I mean, they're the ones missing the final for only the 2nd time since 2001.

PatTraverse
01-05-2008, 10:55 AM
Even if your goalie would be Theodore, there's no reason to be beaten and creating tons of turnovers like they did. You can say that it's hard for the forwards to try to create anything offensively since you know that it won't mean a lot 'cause you'll be scored on. But Smith, as bad as he looks, wouldn't look as bad with a much better defense in front of him.

It's still 2-0. Is the game done? How is the 3rd one Smith's fault? The whole defensive play of this squad sucks but their defense moreso. I thought that "sticking with the program" was an advantage over players that didn't 'cause they had a better unity, and worked better as a team? Sure.....
It's easy to say that they should play better but when they don't have confidence in their netminder they try to do more to compensate.

In the end they are taken off their game and don't keep it simple which results in turnovers and more pucks in the back of their net.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 10:56 AM
don't believe everything that the commentators say.

it's the Russians that don't care about this game. I mean, they're the ones missing the final for only the 2nd time since 2001.

Agreed!

littleD
01-05-2008, 10:57 AM
4-0.

Ugly.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 10:57 AM
4-0 to Russia!

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 10:58 AM
don't believe everything that the commentators say.

it's the Russians that don't care about this game. I mean, they're the ones missing the final for only the 2nd time since 2001.


Totally disagree. If you've watched the US in the Bronze Medal games in 2005, 2006 before last years' victory, they obviously don't care about these games. And today is showing it again. It has nothing to do with the announcers, or what they say. I was at the game in Vancouver against Finland, and it was a totally different team than the one that had been so good for much of the tourney. And it appears to be same old story today.

Matthew
01-05-2008, 10:58 AM
While it's good to see Palmer in (only because he plays for my University's team) I also pity him for playing behind a team that obviously doesn't care out there. Talk about getting thrown to the wolves. :(

PatTraverse
01-05-2008, 11:00 AM
What the US coach should say after the game.
zX4ox7aX_wc

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:01 AM
Totally disagree. If you've watched the US in the Bronze Medal games in 2005, 2006 before last years' victory, they obviously don't care about these games. And today is showing it again. It has nothing to do with the announcers, or what they say. I was at the game in Vancouver against Finland, and it was a totally different team than the one that had been so good for much of the tourney. And it appears to be same old story today.

If Usa donīt care about this game then why the changes the goalie?
This is lame a excuse from your North American to explain why you do it so bad! Maybe itīs so simple that Russia is a better team than USA!

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 11:02 AM
If Usa donīt care about this game then why the changes the goalie?
This is lame a excuse from your North American to explain why you do it so bad! Maybe itīs so simple that Russia is a better team than USA!

They changed their goalie b/c the game was over, and they wanted the kid to get a chance to play more than the one bad period he had played earlier against Finland. The same reason they put him in when they were up 5-0 against Finland. Just to give him the experience of playing at the tourney in a situation where the result was decided and really did not matter.

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 11:04 AM
If Usa donīt care about this game then why the changes the goalie?
This is lame a excuse from your North American to explain why you do it so bad! Maybe itīs so simple that Russia is a better team than USA!


It's weird that we in NA do it so bad, yet there's only 2 of our countires, compared to 8 from Europe each year, and yet we've won the last 4 WJHC. Sounds like we do it so bad.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:07 AM
They changed their goalie b/c the game was over, and they wanted the kid to get a chance to play more than the one bad period he had played earlier against Finland. The same reason they put him in when they were up 5-0 against Finland. Just to give him the experience of playing at the tourney in a situation where the result was decided and really did not matter.


So USA didnīt care about the Semifinal too? They lose with 1-4 so they canīt care about it?

Whitesnake
01-05-2008, 11:08 AM
It's easy to say that they should play better but when they don't have confidence in their netminder they try to do more to compensate.

In the end they are taken off their game and don't keep it simple which results in turnovers and more pucks in the back of their net.

And what about the goalie thinking that he's not allowed to make one mistake 'cause his team is flat, his defense slow, and his forwards not ready to pay the price. That takes him out of his game and wants to do too much...By no means am I implying that Smith is good goalie, he's not, but the rest of the team shouldn't get a bye because of that.

And again, if they feel better to think that it's only the goalie's fault, well good for them. And good for us, they won't address the real problem and start selecting better players like tons of people are saying they suck at.

By the way, where would you say Smith's mistakes were today. How many bad goals again? 1st for sure. 2nd? Deflection on Summers' skate real close to him? On the 3rd where the defensive coverage was god awful?

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:09 AM
If Usa donīt care about this game then why the changes the goalie?
This is lame a excuse from your North American to explain why you do it so bad! Maybe itīs so simple that Russia is a better team than USA!

I wouldn't link Canada into this. They are doing just fine. You do know that Canada and USA are two countries?

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:10 AM
So USA didnīt care about the Semifinal too? They lose with 1-4 so they canīt care about it?

It's official! Lets Go Canada!:yo: You have helped me decide on which team to root for

john g
01-05-2008, 11:10 AM
beautiful shot by Rhakshani

1-4

AkageNoKeri
01-05-2008, 11:10 AM
Yeah, finally. Go US! Turn this one around..


STHLM, UUhhhhhhhh!:deadhorse

dkatzism
01-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Am I imagining things, or did Pierre just say "roof daddy?"

Has he ever said that before?

mlugia
01-05-2008, 11:11 AM
So USA didnīt care about the Semifinal too? They lose with 1-4 so they canīt care about it?
I'm inclined to say that your sentence makes no sense whatever.

Even worse, I think you need to see a psychiatrist, your inferiority complex is staggering.

dkatzism
01-05-2008, 11:11 AM
STHLM, UUhhhhhhhh!:deadhorse

Meh, the red triangle is your friend.

Matthew
01-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Am I imagining things, or did Pierre just say "roof daddy?"

Has he ever said that before?

There was a "roof daddy" in the broadcast. You aren't crazy.

Aeryn
01-05-2008, 11:12 AM
Am I imagining things, or did Pierre just say "roof daddy?"

Has he ever said that before?
You read my mind...had to rewind to make sure I wasn't hearing things.

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 11:13 AM
There was a "roof daddy" in the broadcast. You aren't crazy.

Pierre LOVES "roof daddy". That's one of his biggies, says it everytime he has the chance.

BenIgnorant
01-05-2008, 11:14 AM
I can't take it anymore. What a waste.:surrender:pullhair:

USA Hockey needs a self-evaluation and decide whether they want to pick the best team or pick the best team from players who chose to go their preferred route. Too many of these players (especially the Dmen) look they don't belong.

Boy...that was same major lag time on my end...I posted this right after Russia scored their 4th.

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 11:15 AM
It's official! Lets Go Canada!:yo: You have helped me decide on which team to root for

Amen buddy. This guy has singlehandedly turned me from cheering for Sweden against anyone but Canada, to hoping they get relegated in the future. They have fallen to Russian levels for me.

PatTraverse
01-05-2008, 11:16 AM
And what about the goalie thinking that he's not allowed to make one mistake 'cause his team is flat, his defense slow, and his forwards not ready to pay the price. That takes him out of his game and wants to do too much...By no means am I implying that Smith is good goalie, he's not, but the rest of the team shouldn't get a bye because of that.

And again, if they feel better to think that it's only the goalie's fault, well good for them. And good for us, they won't address the real problem and start selecting better players like tons of people are saying they suck at.

By the way, where would you say Smith's mistakes were today. How many bad goals again? 1st for sure. 2nd? Deflection on Summers' skate real close to him? On the 3rd where the defensive coverage was god awful?
The only goal i wouldn't blame on him is the 3rd one since yeah he had no chance.

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-05-2008, 11:16 AM
Hey Pierre easy with the "the US is embarassing themselves", I swear this guy has a boner that the US didnt advance further.
Anyway, ugly game, Russia is dominating.

Reilly*
01-05-2008, 11:22 AM
How is the U.S. embarrassing themselves? It's not like anyone in the States cares. They don't have to go home and hold press conferences about what happened like if Canada were to lose.

devils1983
01-05-2008, 11:22 AM
Hey Pierre easy with the "the US is embarassing themselves", I swear this guy has a boner that the US didnt advance further.
Anyway, ugly game, Russia is dominating.

You should hear him when he gets to call a Crosby game....I think he goos on his mic.

Garl
01-05-2008, 11:25 AM
STHLM, Relax buddy, stop your "War for the Rightfulness". In all collectives, the worst people are usually validity seekers.

Enjoy the game.;)

dkatzism
01-05-2008, 11:25 AM
How is the U.S. embarrassing themselves? It's not like anyone in the States cares. They don't have to go home and hold press conferences about what happened like if Canada were to lose.

We care! ;)

Hockey Fan001
01-05-2008, 11:27 AM
my two cents.....if anyone thinks that the US is playing their "A" game today they don't know hockey, likewise the Russians aren't playing their "A" game.
The US played their "A" against Canada (for the most part) yesterday and Canada played their "A +" game.
The game between Canada and the Sweden, both teams played their "A" game.
I don't think we've seen Sweden play their "A +" game yet....maybe today.
Bottom line is the Americans have lost the desire and heart they had in previous games.
That being said I was not one of the thousands that believed the Americans were far and away the best team in this tournament.
You can stack a team with top offensive players (as the US has) but if you don't bring the whole package (ie: defense specialists) you ain't going anywhere.

PycckuuRocket10
01-05-2008, 11:27 AM
What the US coach should say after the game.
zX4ox7aX_wc

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

GO RUSSIA!!!!!!!

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:28 AM
How is the U.S. embarrassing themselves? It's not like anyone in the States cares. They don't have to go home and hold press conferences about what happened like if Canada were to lose.

Just embarassing themselves to fewer people and on a lesser level

I think they are playing better now. Finishing checks, working harder and forechecking better.

Islanders4Cups
01-05-2008, 11:29 AM
Care? Absolutely! Actually still counting on the team to make a game of it in the 3rd period. An early US goal is critical.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:29 AM
STHLM, Relax buddy, stop your "War for the Rightfulness". In all collectives, the worst people are usually validity seekers.

Enjoy the game.;)


Some comments in here makes me sick, but now I will enjoy the game! GO RUSSIA!

Hockey Fan001
01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Hey Pierre easy with the "the US is embarassing themselves", I swear this guy has a boner that the US didnt advance further.
Anyway, ugly game, Russia is dominating.

Pierre is American.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Some comments in here makes me sick, but now I will enjoy the game! GO RUSSIA!

Sick? :biglaugh: This game isn't even about your country and you feel nausea coming on?

Wait for the CAN/SWE GDT.

AkageNoKeri
01-05-2008, 11:32 AM
Meh, the red triangle is your friend.

eh, what?

Bloggins
01-05-2008, 11:32 AM
Slightly off topic,

I'm not normally a violent person but I want to punch the crispy crunch commercial guy in the throat

hak
01-05-2008, 11:34 AM
nah .!

dkatzism
01-05-2008, 11:34 AM
eh, what?

http://hfboards.com/faq.php?faq=terms_of_service#faq_reporting_contact _us

Whitesnake
01-05-2008, 11:34 AM
The only goal i wouldn't blame on him is the 3rd one since yeah he had no chance.

And how's the 2nd one a problem? Summers was almost in the crease how do you react to that?

Against Canada he was plain bad. Alzner's, Gillies' goals were beyond awful.

But on Matthias' goal and Marchand's he had no chance. Could have make the key saves but he's not that kind of goalie. So yes, you can easily say that he's a not somebody who would make that incredible save that will permit his team to go further. But having NO confidence in him and thinking that he might be just good and not great, I really think there's a big gap. And wasn't he the best goalie statswise before the Canada game? How did they went from having confidence to no confidence at all only 'cause of the Alzner and Gillies goals?

It just sucks for kids that should have been there and weren't. And I'm not talking only about my Habs prospects, 'cause I think Fischer did not deserve an invitation. But McDonagh would not have been the worst of that defensive squad to say the least. But it would have taken more than McDo to make a difference. Unice should have been there. And a few others.

But in the other end, they might have been overrated while Canada was underrated. Wouldn't be the first time where a team look great to then dissapear or that a team looked bad but then played great in important games. I was just expecting more from that team based on their selection process.

But let them deal with that.

TravisUlrich
01-05-2008, 11:35 AM
What the US coach should say after the game.
zX4ox7aX_wc

either that or, "I'M A MAN! I'M 40!!!"

Not that it really fits, it just cracks me up.

AkageNoKeri
01-05-2008, 11:36 AM
dkatzism: Right. Haven't noticed that thing.. Dunno if I want to report STHLM, I just want him to shut up.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:39 AM
nah .!

Why? Iīm not said something wrong! And Canada will win! Are all people happy now????:shakehead Canada will WIIIIIIIIN! Now itīs little better for you?
But donīt worry! I will not be in here when the game has started. I will move to my big tv!

PatTraverse
01-05-2008, 11:40 AM
I hope that after the game the Russians will once again greet the beautiful ladies coming on the ice.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:43 AM
Okay, back to the topic. I donīt think this is over yet. A quick goal by USA and the Russians will be nervous!

devils1983
01-05-2008, 11:45 AM
Why? Iīm not said something wrong! And Canada will win! Are all people happy now????:shakehead Canada will WIIIIIIIIN! Now itīs little better for you?
But donīt worry! I will not be in here when the game has started. I will move to my big tv!

:shakehead

Settle down, Beavis.

:shakehead

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:45 AM
Why? Iīm not said something wrong! And Canada will win! Are all people happy now????:shakehead Canada will WIIIIIIIIN! Now itīs little better for you?
But donīt worry! I will not be in here when the game has started. I will move to my big tv!

Can't you take your computer with you to the big TV?

devils1983
01-05-2008, 11:46 AM
Can't you take your computer with you to the big TV?

Man, don't add any more fuel to the fire. Let him calm down. :)

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 11:47 AM
Why? Iīm not said something wrong! And Canada will win! Are all people happy now????:shakehead Canada will WIIIIIIIIN! Now itīs little better for you?
But donīt worry! I will not be in here when the game has started. I will move to my big tv!


No, we're not. But it sounds like everyone will be in just over 2 hours.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:49 AM
Man, don't add any more fuel to the fire. Let him calm down. :)

I know. I love his passion for the game and country though. ;)

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:50 AM
Can't you take your computer with you to the big TV?

Hmm, it would be little complicated! ;) So no, I move without the computer.

LannysStach
01-05-2008, 11:50 AM
wait -- so, Tretiak is a member of the Duma, and Ken Dryden is a member of Parliment in Canada!?

the two opposing goaltenders in the Canada-Russia '72 series -- the two who faced each other in "the greatest game" are both members of their government now!!?? now THAT'S the respect for hockey i'm talkin' about!

(maybe Obama will put Richter in his cabinet! :sarcasm: )

ThisYearsModel
01-05-2008, 11:50 AM
Love that Cherepanov. I guess Pierre McGuire agrees. 14 teams passed on him.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:52 AM
Hmm, it would be little complicated! ;) So no, I move without the computer.

Ok Well here is to a great Gold Medal game.
:cheers:

AkageNoKeri
01-05-2008, 11:52 AM
LannysStach: Alot of Soviet players are enjoying high paying government jobs these days, many of the green line players have top jobs. And remember they were military personell when they played, so they have a couple of stars and rankings that "normal people" don't have....

devils1983
01-05-2008, 11:52 AM
Love that Cherepanov. I guess Pierre McGuire agrees. 14 teams passed on him.

Hopefully the Russians sign that transfer agreement soon. Can't wait to see what Cherepanov does in the NHL....then again, don't want him playing against the Devils....stay in Russia, Cherepanov. ;)

dank
01-05-2008, 11:53 AM
the Canadian bus has arrived!!!!

i'm so nervous

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:54 AM
No offense, but this game looks to be that boring like USA/Canada. I like close games like Sweden/Russia in OT!

x eric x
01-05-2008, 11:54 AM
who scored the goals for Russia?

Hockey Fan001
01-05-2008, 11:55 AM
No offense, but this game looks to be that boring like USA/Canada. I like close games like Sweden/Russia in OT!

the US-Canada game boring? LOL

SM17
01-05-2008, 11:55 AM
No offense, but this game looks to be that boring like USA/Canada.

:biglaugh:

devils1983
01-05-2008, 11:56 AM
No offense, but this game looks to be that boring like USA/Canada. I like close games like Sweden/Russia in OT!

Yes, a team scoring 4 goals shows no offense. :shakehead

You normally don't see a team at this level running up the scores. What's the point?

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:56 AM
the Canadian bus has arrived!!!!

i'm so nervous

How you know that? Where have you get this info from?

devils1983
01-05-2008, 11:58 AM
How you know that? Where have you get this info from?

Hartsburg emailed him. ;)

Aeryn
01-05-2008, 11:58 AM
who scored the goals for Russia?
Cherepanov (Filatov, Mamin)
Kurbatov (Tikhonov)
Filatov (Cherepanov)
Filatov (Mamin, Cherepanov)

How you know that? Where have you get this info from?
super secret insider info. ;)

Garl
01-05-2008, 11:58 AM
Love that Cherepanov. I guess Pierre McGuire agrees. 14 teams passed on him.

To be honest, Cherepanov had a mediocre tournament, and is having a mediocre season.

LannysStach
01-05-2008, 11:58 AM
A lot of Soviet players are enjoying high paying government jobs these days, many of the green line players have top jobs. And remember they were military personell when they played, so they have a couple of stars and rankings that "normal people" don't have....

thank you very much for that! i had no idea. great news. poor guys had to be in the army, but it's nice that something good came of it. it was always so unjust that the north americans could become millionaires selling peanut butter or bluejeans in advertisements -- i always felt bad for the Russians who didn't seem to get a fair shake. what about that Kharlimov (sp?) guy? did he get his props? (i mean, a good gig?) he was The Man on the ice.

AkageNoKeri
01-05-2008, 11:58 AM
This just became interesting.

Hockey Fan001
01-05-2008, 11:58 AM
How you know that? Where have you get this info from?

Dont you know, all us Canadians have the players cell phone numbers and we're in touch with them constantly.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 11:59 AM
Yes, a team scoring 4 goals shows no offense. :shakehead

You normally don't see a team at this level running up the scores. What's the point?

I think he means Offense as in being offensive and not scoring. I got your back STHLM

Goal! Schroeder

LooGDuck
01-05-2008, 11:59 AM
a 2nd goal on this pp would be insane

TVanek
01-05-2008, 11:59 AM
4-2!!!:handclap:

#11_THEBEST!
01-05-2008, 11:59 AM
How you know that? Where have you get this info from?

TSN shows it.......

BTW, Sweden is the best, right? and they will win Gold Medal right? ;)

I know that's all you want to hear......

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 11:59 AM
Yes, a team scoring 4 goals shows no offense. :shakehead

You normally don't see a team at this level running up the scores. What's the point?

I mean, no offense to you people, I donīt mean the game! I will not you should be mad of me!;)

x eric x
01-05-2008, 11:59 AM
Cherepanov (Filatov, Mamin)
Kurbatov (Tikhonov)
Filatov (Cherepanov)
Filatov (Mamin, Cherepanov)



thanks

Canuck71
01-05-2008, 12:00 PM
Americans definetly arent out of this just yet. There really starting to compete now near the end of the third period. Just need 2 goals

nyrfan444
01-05-2008, 12:00 PM
To be honest, Cherepanov had a mediocre tournament, and is having a mediocre season.

He's certainly not having a mediocre game

Garl
01-05-2008, 12:00 PM
Now, that's intresting.
I predicted a 4-2 Russian win.)))))

Jaydee96
01-05-2008, 12:01 PM
How you know that? Where have you get this info from?

on TSN they showed it.
They showed the players getting off the bus and walking in the arena.

Garl
01-05-2008, 12:01 PM
He's certainly not having a mediocre game

Today? Yes. But people expected much more from him at this WJC.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 12:01 PM
A little background on Schroeder

He not only made his Minnesota high school team as an 8th grader (wasn't even in high school yet) but he lead them in scoring. That year they won the state championship.
A lot of Minnesota high school teams don't even have 9th or 10th graders on them

LooGDuck
01-05-2008, 12:01 PM
That would have been hilarious if that went in

bling
01-05-2008, 12:02 PM
Weak penalty call there.

Paxton Fettel
01-05-2008, 12:02 PM
many people are misled. the americans are not really dominating antything. just a long PP with some good chances, and a goal

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 12:03 PM
TSN shows it.......

BTW, Sweden is the best, right? and they will win Gold Medal right? ;)

I know that's all you want to hear......

I donīt think that Sweden will win! I think Canada will win, but I think Sweden CAN win! Iīm so tired about people who underating Sweden and say they have no chance! But of course they have a chance. The Swedish team are going for GOLD. But Team Canada are favorites!

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 12:04 PM
many people are misled. the americans are not really dominating antything. just a long PP with some good chances, and a goal

Where in this thread has anyone been high on how US is playing? I just did a quick look and found three that said the Russians are owing the ice
Your the one misled

devils1983
01-05-2008, 12:05 PM
I donīt think that Sweden will win! I think Canada will win, but I think Sweden CAN win! Iīm so tired about people who underating Sweden and say they have no chance! But of course they have a chance. The Swedish team are going for GOLD. But Team Canada are favorites!

Canada "should" win this game, as long as they don't have a melt down like the round robin game against Sweden. Canada has to stop taking so many penalties.

LooGDuck
01-05-2008, 12:05 PM
penalty game over congrats russia

LannysStach
01-05-2008, 12:06 PM
if the Americans had played like this for 60 min. instead of the last 10 this would be a whole different game!

they're the mirror opposite of the Leafs -- sleep for 50 and play for 10 instead of the Leafs' specialty of napping for the last 10 min.

Caged Wisdom
01-05-2008, 12:06 PM
I donīt think that Sweden will win! I think Canada will win, but I think Sweden CAN win! Iīm so tired about people who underating Sweden and say they have no chance! But of course they have a chance. The Swedish team are going for GOLD. But Team Canada are favorites!

You do realize that most the people who are saying it is gonna be a blowout, are saying it to get a reaction from you? You are playing right into there hand.

devils1983
01-05-2008, 12:06 PM
Weak penalty call there.

A lot of the penalties in this tournament have been pretty weak. That normally happens when this tournament is played in Europe.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 12:08 PM
Congrats Russia. Very skilled team

CraigC
01-05-2008, 12:08 PM
Of course Sweden has a chance. Its a game. Its kinda like Washington just beat Ottawa on the road.

Canada are a favorite between 1-3 and 2-7 for this game.

nyrfan444
01-05-2008, 12:08 PM
A little background on Schroeder

He not only made his Minnesota high school team as an 8th grader (wasn't even in high school yet) but he lead them in scoring. That year they won the state championship.
A lot of Minnesota high school teams don't even have 9th or 10th graders on them

I'm pretty sure they won the State Championship when he was in 9th grade. When he was an 8th grader they lost to T.J. Oshie's Warroad team. Either way, his performance was remarkable for an 8th/9th grader.

LannysStach
01-05-2008, 12:08 PM
A lot of the penalties in this tournament have been pretty weak. That normally happens when this tournament is played in Europe.

i agree. that last one was a crime.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 12:09 PM
I'm pretty sure they won the State Championship when he was in 9th grade. When he was an 8th grader they lost to T.J. Oshie's Warroad team. Either way, his performance was remarkable for an 8th/9th grader.


You are correct

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 12:09 PM
A lot of the penalties in this tournament have been pretty weak. That normally happens when this tournament is played in Europe.

Happens in NA too. It's the same refs, and same rules.

devils1983
01-05-2008, 12:09 PM
Nice to see Nemchinov come away with a medal here, especially after that "Super Series" against Canada.

bling
01-05-2008, 12:10 PM
Congrats to Russia! Well played.:handclap:

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 12:11 PM
Congrats Russia! You has a very good team!

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 12:11 PM
There's like 6 bloody women out there for the ceremony now. Why are they showing James Duthie and Bob McKenzie. TSN, what the heck. :)

Aeryn
01-05-2008, 12:12 PM
Well done Russia. :handclap:

devils1983
01-05-2008, 12:12 PM
Happens in NA too. It's the same refs, and same rules.

Not really. The NA refs were not used to their full potential this tournament. It was mentioned at the beginning of this game. When the WJHC is played in NA, you don't see a lot of soft penalties called.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 12:13 PM
There's like 6 bloody women out there for the ceremony now. Why are they showing James Duthie and Bob McKenzie. TSN, what the heck. :)

Note to Canada: Need some talent handing out medals in Ottawa next year

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 12:13 PM
Not really. The NA refs were not used to their full potential this tournament. It was mentioned at the beginning of this game. When the WJHC is played in NA, you don't see a lot of soft penalties called.

In Vancouver, there were a TON of soft penalties called. I was at that event, and it was just as bad as this one was.

Paxton Fettel
01-05-2008, 12:13 PM
not too bad of a tournament for Russia.

one loss in regulation, against the team they ended up beating after all.

devils1983
01-05-2008, 12:14 PM
In Vancouver, there were a TON of soft penalties called. I was at that event, and it was just as bad as this one was.

I was there to. I guess we view the game differently. Your opinion.

nyrfan444
01-05-2008, 12:14 PM
Congrats to Russia, they earned the Bronze :handclap:

Muzzfan
01-05-2008, 12:16 PM
I only was able to catch the third period, but it was apparent that Russia played a great game from the highlights. I was hoping for the USA to break through, but it'll have to wait another year.

Congrats to Russia.

STHLM*
01-05-2008, 12:17 PM
not too bad of a tournament for Russia.

one loss in regulation, against the team they ended up beating after all.

Hmm, I hope not Canada will do the same as Russia.;)

Whitesnake
01-05-2008, 12:17 PM
Thought we would see Anisimov a little more. But it was all a Tikhonov-Filatov-Cherepanov show.

And the goalie is not too shabby either.

They did deserve it. US certainly didn't.....

The Muffin Stud
01-05-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm stunned at the Americans performance. I actually expected them to go all the way this year. I seriously thought they would beat Canada. I never expected this.

I've heard the the US has yet to medal in consecutive tournaments. Is this true?

dmacgreg37
01-05-2008, 12:23 PM
I'm stunned at the Americans performance. I actually expected them to go all the way this year. I seriously thought they would beat Canada. I never expected this.

I've heard the the US has yet to medal in consecutive tournaments. Is this true?

Yeah, if memory holds, they only have 5 medals ever. Bronze in 86, 92, 07, Silver in 97 and Gold in 04.

HitByWitt
01-05-2008, 12:27 PM
congrats mother Russia.

USA U-20 team.. you have some splainin' to do.

:shakehead

PycckuuRocket10
01-05-2008, 12:27 PM
Nice job Russia. Gold next year.:handclap::yo::sarcasm:

MomentsofSanity
01-05-2008, 12:27 PM
It's just amazing how the US team seems to under perform year after year. There's been a few versions of this team the last couple of years who were built very well on paper only finish outside of the medals.

Davebo
01-05-2008, 12:29 PM
Some fan support might do wonders for those American kids. Some coverage of the event by your home nation would be a start.

fogducker
01-05-2008, 12:30 PM
is Tikhonov eligable for the drafft this year?

dank
01-05-2008, 12:30 PM
Sanguinetti was voted player of the game..

Raoul Duke*
01-05-2008, 12:31 PM
I had the US pegged to take gold this year. But it's all good, we'll take it if you don't want it.

GO CANADA.

CraigC
01-05-2008, 12:34 PM
is Tikhonov eligable for the drafft this year?

Think he was last year.

SPORTSMANIAC
01-05-2008, 12:41 PM
Sanguinetti was voted player of the game..

Who was the player of the game for Russia? Cherepanov or Nikita Filatov?

Westcoasthabsfan
01-05-2008, 12:52 PM
Just woke up to see the Americans have completed their collapse.... Congrats to the Bronze medal winners the Russians

Kaktus
01-05-2008, 01:11 PM
Well once again... Russia is still top 3 team in WJC but it is not good enough... Very impressed with Swedes team and fans...

If it is not gold we fail..

hockeyviper87
01-05-2008, 01:21 PM
To be honest, Cherepanov had a mediocre tournament, and is having a mediocre season.

not to make excuses for him but.....he has bronchitis and the flu atm and many teams he is playing now know who he is and that they need to key in on him....also his linemates arent very good......

pouskin74
01-05-2008, 01:23 PM
bronze is not good at all for a russia but from this team with that couch not bad at all i think!

jaydub
01-05-2008, 01:33 PM
How is the U.S. embarrassing themselves? It's not like anyone in the States cares. They don't have to go home and hold press conferences about what happened like if Canada were to lose.

this is pretty much why year in and year out the USA doesnt show up for the bronze, except for last year. they dont care if they win it, and no one else does either

squishy
01-05-2008, 01:33 PM
Who was the player of the game for Russia? Cherepanov or Nikita Filatov?

Filatov.

jaydub
01-05-2008, 01:36 PM
If Usa donīt care about this game then why the changes the goalie?
This is lame a excuse from your North American to explain why you do it so bad! Maybe itīs so simple that Russia is a better team than USA!

dude you need to stop posting. you alone makes me hope canada wins 10-0 in the gold

jkrdevil
01-05-2008, 01:41 PM
Some fan support might do wonders for those American kids. Some coverage of the event by your home nation would be a start.

It's hard to get coverage when you choke year in and year out. There was a chance for the tournament to get plublicity during the lockout, the tournament was in the US, they were the defending champs, and all of the US games were on ESPN. But of course they didn't medal.

nyrfan444
01-05-2008, 01:50 PM
It's hard to get coverage when you choke year in and year out. There was a chance for the tournament to get plublicity during the lockout, the tournament was in the US, they were the defending champs, and all of the US games were on ESPN. But of course they didn't medal.

Honestly their performance in that tournament (and others) has nothing to do with its lack of publicity in the US. I mean for starters, NHL Hockey is on an obscure cable channel with fishing and extreme cagefighting - why would a major network pick up a junior tournament?. The only reason that WJC was on ESPN that year is because of the caliber of players in it (Crosby, Ovechkin, Kessel etc.) and because in previous years ESPN had shown the NHL and was looking for something to air to appease its hockey viewers (shocking, I know) in '05. The "choking" by the US team in that tournament had little or nothing to do with the WJC's subsequent lack of publicity in the US.

cska78
01-05-2008, 02:07 PM
NHL Channel shows some games too, I saw replay of Russia - Czech Republick

Reilly*
01-05-2008, 02:20 PM
It's hard to get coverage when you choke year in and year out.

Uh, it's hard to get coverage when they don't even show the gold medal game.

Let's be honest here. If NHL hockey has problems being on television, the WJHC has a long way to go before anyone will even consider putting it on television in the U.S.

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Uh, it's hard to get coverage when they don't even show the gold medal game.

Let's be honest here. If NHL hockey has problems being on television, the WJHC has a long way to go before anyone will even consider putting it on television in the U.S.
How odd, since I live in the United States and have been watching WJC hockey the past few days. NHL Network is on Direct TV and many major US cable providers now.

IslesFanatic
01-05-2008, 02:49 PM
Wow, from 4-0 to no medal. Not good at all.

Reilly*
01-05-2008, 02:52 PM
How odd, since I live in the United States and have been watching WJC hockey the past few days. NHL Network is on Direct TV and many major US cable providers now.

If it's not on ESPN, no one has a chance of caring.

gorrillaunit18
01-05-2008, 03:11 PM
I'm upset the USA lost. :cry: :cry: :cry:

But congrats to Russia...they kicked out butt today.

FLYLine24
01-05-2008, 03:31 PM
Today? Yes. But people expected much more from him at this WJC.

Yea, he started the tournament off with Bronchitis and missed the first game before coming back. Do you really think he was at 100% when he did come back? Every game he's looked better since.

State of Hockey
01-05-2008, 03:59 PM
Typical collapse from the Americans. We all know it's coming.

Rabid Husky
01-05-2008, 04:32 PM
U.S. melted down at the exact wrong time and really, both U.S. goaltenders were horrid. I haven't seen a goalie (Smith) move so slowly laterally in a long time, not even in high school. It was like he was wearing concrete skates.

Rabid Husky
01-05-2008, 04:37 PM
U.S. melted down at the exact wrong time and really, both U.S. goaltenders were horrid. I haven't seen a goalie (Smith) move so slowly laterally in a long time, not even in high school. It was like he was wearing concrete skates.

Zine
01-05-2008, 05:42 PM
lol. They played "American Idiot" by Green Day over the PA during the whistles.

jaydub
01-05-2008, 05:58 PM
lol. They played "American Idiot" by Green Day over the PA during the whistles.

classy as always, that makes me glad the home country failed so miserably

Gumbercules
01-05-2008, 08:19 PM
lol. They played "American Idiot" by Green Day over the PA during the whistles.

They played the same songs over and over in order all tournament. I almost have the tracklist memorized. American Idiot came on frequently throughout the tourny. The Czech faithful were nothing but great hosts.

MURedHawk
01-05-2008, 08:27 PM
classy as always, that makes me glad the home country failed so miserably

Can't agree more