MLS: The 2008 Season

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DevilFisch
01-01-2008, 12:50 PM
It's a brand new year! And so we have a brand new thread for the 2008 season of MLS!

Right now, while FIFA's transfer window is going on, there's plenty to do for MLS teams prior to the end of March. MLS has eliminated the distinction between senior and youth international spots, granted all teams at least one more slot (up to 8), and allowed teams to trade their international slots. With expansion hitting the league, this is a good move to avoid stretching the American pool of talent too thin.

Here's a calender of what's ahead for MLS this season:


1/1/08 - Senior Developmental players can be signed
1/11 - 1/15 - MLS SuperDraft Combine
1/15 - Primary Registration Window Opens
1/18 - 2008 MLS SuperDraft
1/24 - 2008 Supplemental Draft
1/26 - Pre-Season Training Camps may begin
3/3 - Roster and Salary Budget Compliance; developmental players can be signed
3/4 - Waiver Draft
3/29 - Regular Season Begins
4/15 - Primary Registration Window Closes
7/15 - Secondary Registration Window Opens
8/15 - Secondary Registration Window Closes
9/15 - Roster Freeze Date & Trade and Discovery Deadline

So the big focus for teams now are to reload their roster, sign players, and get ready for the draft. Don't know much about the draft? The MLS section at SoccerNet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/section?id=mls&cc=5901) will give you some information as Buzz Carrick of 3rd Degree (http://www.3rddegree.net/) (a FC Dallas fan-site) has been putting out tons of information about who's out there in terms of prospects. This year seems to be loaded for defenders.

This year also welcomes the return of the San Jose Earthquakes as an expansion team. Welcome back, San Jose. Seattle was awarded a franchise in 2009 and St. Louis and Philadelphia are the top bids for a franchise in 2010.

Let this be the thread for all things MLS related for the 2008 year. Be it news, complaints, questions, and smack talk against DC United. Go MLS!

Chimaera
01-01-2008, 01:00 PM
DC UNITED!


Gonna win the Cup this year!

DevilFisch
01-01-2008, 01:31 PM
DC UNITED!


Gonna win the Cup this year!

With exactly who at goalkeeper?

Live in the Now
01-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Need a striker. Need one bad. I'm glad we brought Clint Mathis back, though.

Reaper45
01-01-2008, 02:17 PM
Need a striker. Need one bad. I'm glad we brought Clint Mathis back, though.

Yes we do. Never been a big Mathis fan though.

Riot Squad FTW!

undraftedstlouis
01-01-2008, 02:37 PM
With exactly who at goalkeeper?

I'm no DC fan, but Zach Wells is probably better than Conway and is about average for MLS. That was good enough in 2004 with Rimando.

acr*
01-01-2008, 05:27 PM
The window is closing on the Revs. Still have Twellman, Reis, etc., but the supporting cast is getting older. Hopefully they seal the deal this year and stop blowing it in the final.

DevilFisch
01-01-2008, 06:02 PM
I forgot all about Zach Wells - that's how "eh" he really is, as far as I know. I also just remembered that Jon Conway is the #1 in NY now. :help:

Oh yeah, Galaxy fans, let me tell you that Clint Mathis is NOT the answer. He's serviceable but he's not someone you can ride for an entire season and expect him to be consistently good. Also, your team doesn't just need a striker - but one who can head the ball really well. Rumor has it that Maciej Zurawski of Celtic may want to come to LA; but it may be a ploy to get a better deal from Celtic. Who knows at this point.

The Revs got to replace Andy Dorman first and then figure out how to either A) expand on their core or B) utilize the cap space they actually have.

Chimaera
01-01-2008, 06:55 PM
With exactly who at goalkeeper?

Wells is good enough to get it done.


Perkins wasn't a stud by any means. He made plenty of mistakes.




I'm excited to see who they sign. Disappointed to see Veron was a pipe dream (or him just fooling around to get more cash) but they're still working on some things.

captain coliseum
01-01-2008, 07:04 PM
I forgot all about Zach Wells - that's how "eh" he really is, as far as I know. I also just remembered that Jon Conway is the #1 in NY now. :help:

Oh yeah, Galaxy fans, let me tell you that Clint Mathis is NOT the answer. He's serviceable but he's not someone you can ride for an entire season and expect him to be consistently good. Also, your team doesn't just need a striker - but one who can head the ball really well. Rumor has it that Maciej Zurawski of Celtic may want to come to LA; but it may be a ploy to get a better deal from Celtic. Who knows at this point.

The Revs got to replace Andy Dorman first and then figure out how to either A) expand on their core or B) utilize the cap space they actually have.

I think Metro will be fine with Conwaythis year. I mean in the seond half of the season, I was probably more comfortable with him the net instead Watterus. BTW, I'm sorry to see Mathis go. I met him in his first go around with NY and he's a real nice guy. I would have liked to see him play his last few years with us considering he's our all-time leading scorer. He's probably one of my favorite Metrobulls ever.

undraftedstlouis
01-01-2008, 07:04 PM
Wells was pretty green when with NY. I think he's developing into the real deal. Definitely no Guzan, but should be a solid starter for 5-10 years.

The Revs have been pretty lucky with injuries the last few years. Nicol uses very few players. He protects players with a few weaknesses (like Khano Smith, Heaps, Avery John) with players like Joseph and Parkhurst. Ralston has surprised me the way his legs are holding up and I guess he can play 1 more year centrally as a good starter. I'm not fully sold on Cristman and Thompson yet though both have exceeded my projections. Heaps might lose a step or two too many in the next year or two. Parkhurst and John are rumored as headed overseas at some point. NE has a basic core of Twellman, Noonan, Joseph, Parkhurst, and Reis that is very strong for MLS. With the loss of Dorman and Riley, Nicol needs to replace his depth. He usually does this through the draft and who am I to suggest he can't once again???

LA's entirely up in the air right now. With a new coach, rumors swirling of a expensive import at striker, and the question of Donovan remaining - it's really too early to project positional needs. LA needs upgrades all over the place. A lot will depend on their system. Their solid on the right flank when healthy with Klein and Albright (the former losing a step, the latter injury prone nowadays). Jazic at LB and Harmse at DM are passable (with Randolph and Gray as decent options as well). Cannon is as good as MLS keepers need be (and Cronin was supposed to be good but never seems to get much of a chance). Beckham and Donovan are automatic starters. So that leaves 2-3 holes offensively at starter that need to be filled. Both CB slots are open to upgrade (Roberts and Harden might prove themselves but I'd count on both as reserves for now). Veris and Gordon ought to look at USL options. Buddle, Kirk, Martino, and Mathis are all talented in one way or another, but none should be relied on to start. A new coach from Europe might look to make wholesale changes, but in MLS that is usually unwise. If healthy, LA aren't necessarily that bad. They just need huge upgrades at left wing and at the least one striker.

captain coliseum
01-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Help bring soccer to New York City by signing this petiton. The owner of the NY Mets Fred Wilpon has expressed interest and NYC has been mentioned by Don Garber as an expansion candidate for the next few years. Help us bring NYC FC to the borough of Queens.
http://************************/NYCFC/petition.html

krudmonk
01-02-2008, 11:12 AM
One day, there will be bridges and tunnels to New Jersey and everyone can enjoy soccer...

GorgeousFrankenstein
01-02-2008, 02:39 PM
It's a brand new year! And so we have a brand new thread for the 2008 season of MLS!

Right now, while FIFA's transfer window is going on, there's plenty to do for MLS teams prior to the end of March. MLS has eliminated the distinction between senior and youth international spots, granted all teams at least one more slot (up to 8), and allowed teams to trade their international slots. With expansion hitting the league, this is a good move to avoid stretching the American pool of talent too thin.

Here's a calender of what's ahead for MLS this season:


1/1/08 - Senior Developmental players can be signed
1/11 - 1/15 - MLS SuperDraft Combine
1/15 - Primary Registration Window Opens
1/18 - 2008 MLS SuperDraft
1/24 - 2008 Supplemental Draft
1/26 - Pre-Season Training Camps may begin
3/3 - Roster and Salary Budget Compliance; developmental players can be signed
3/4 - Waiver Draft
3/29 - Regular Season Begins
4/15 - Primary Registration Window Closes
7/15 - Secondary Registration Window Opens
8/15 - Secondary Registration Window Closes
9/15 - Roster Freeze Date & Trade and Discovery Deadline

So the big focus for teams now are to reload their roster, sign players, and get ready for the draft. Don't know much about the draft? The MLS section at SoccerNet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/section?id=mls&cc=5901) will give you some information as Buzz Carrick of 3rd Degree (http://www.3rddegree.net/) (a FC Dallas fan-site) has been putting out tons of information about who's out there in terms of prospects. This year seems to be loaded for defenders.

This year also welcomes the return of the San Jose Earthquakes as an expansion team. Welcome back, San Jose. Seattle was awarded a franchise in 2009 and St. Louis and Philadelphia are the top bids for a franchise in 2010.

Let this be the thread for all things MLS related for the 2008 year. Be it news, complaints, questions, and smack talk against DC United. Go MLS!

Dude I must say I love your enthusiasm for the MLS. Great post, thanks for keeping the board up to date.

DevilFisch
01-02-2008, 06:06 PM
Thanks. A lot of people love to focus on the EPL, La Liga, etc. primarily because they are the big leagues. As they should (go Fulham...please? :help:). But I want to support the local pro league. No, soccer isn't my absolute favorite sport; but I like it all the same and considering it's a growing league in terms of talent and popularity, you all might as well get on the train. It's different from a lot of other soccer leagues and partially that's why it's appealing.

For starters, the league is fairly even. Yeah, Houston won 2 straight championships and DC United won 2 straight Supporter's Shields. But as things are now, Houston is the only team that doesn't really have any questions. How the season will play out will depend on how the rest of the league short of the expansion San Jose answers their many questions. Maybe New England will continue finding strong talent in the draft. Maybe DC United will find suitable cover for Moreno and Gomez. Maybe NY will get the left side (LM and LB) help and general defensive cover that they need. Maybe Real Salt Lake can start forming a core of players to build something. Maybe LA will get that striker. So on and so forth. And even if they don't answer those questions (and others), you'd have to be absolutely pitiful to not be competitive in this league and you'd have to be absolutely great to be totally dominant.

You don't have a situation where there are "big" clubs and "small" clubs,namely due to the roster rules and the salary cap. So it makes for an intriguing season.

Now, watch this trailer for the upcoming History of MLS Cup DVD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-_BapBuHjo) Donovan as a blonde! Cobi Jones sans dreads! Joey Franchino with a clothesline! Kansas City celebrating something! WATCH IT!

Chimaera
01-02-2008, 06:34 PM
Well... you do have bad clubs and ok clubs.


DC needs to see about resigning Gomez. Moreno should resign from what I hear and have read. I don't think he's a 90 minute player but he isn't a bad one still.

Need to get some young scoring talent for the MF.


Would like a center back signing (which by all reports is what they plan) and then some speed for the wings.

Not sure if they really have questions, other than, will they win the Supporter Shield again, or win the Cup this year. :)

FlyHigh
01-02-2008, 07:31 PM
I'd be much more into the MLS if the talent and level of play were higher. I really like the fact that it's more even, in EPL, La Liga, and Serie A, you know it's going to be the same 3-4 teams every single year.

I like the evenness in the MLS, but I tried watching a couple of the playoff games and I just really couldn't get into it.

captain coliseum
01-03-2008, 02:10 PM
One day, there will be bridges and tunnels to New Jersey and everyone can enjoy soccer...

Are you the same Krudmonk from Big Soccer? Cuz if you are then I shouldn't even have to go through this again. I never said that I don't want to go to Mew Jersey for a game. I'm the last person to say that because I have Red Bulls season tickets, I'm a Nets fan, and I go to a ton of Devils games (they are my second favorite team). But me and all other NYC soccer fans think it's ridiculous that there isn't a team that plays in the city proper. It is the "capital of the world". A NY derby would only help Red Bull.

DevilFisch
01-03-2008, 04:53 PM
I'll start believing that a NY "derby" (this isn't England, they're rivalries here) would help the Red Bulls when the Red Bulls start drawing larger crowds. Plus, what city in MLS has a stadium literally in the city? Chicago, Dallas, Colorado, and LA all play outside of the cities proper.

Ives Galarcep is a columnist for SoccerNet and reporter who covers the NY Red Bulls for the North Jersey Media Group (e.g. Bergen Record) and so he has a lot of news and info about MLS. There's plenty on his blog now about the draft, where Eddie Johnson is going, but the biggest one now in my opinion has to do with the academy system.

The Red Bulls, DC United, and Chivas USA - all of whom had youth set-ups prior to this season - will all be able to sign 2 players from their academy system (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/three-mls-teams.html) Why only 2? Namely as to not undercut the draft and to allow the academies to get set-up and develop players. Needless to say, MLS allowing these signings is the start to having proper academies in MLS and in the future I think it will grow instead of shrink.

undraftedstlouis
01-03-2008, 05:17 PM
I'll start believing that a NY "derby" (this isn't England, they're rivalries here) would help the Red Bulls when the Red Bulls start drawing larger crowds. Plus, what city in MLS has a stadium literally in the city? Chicago, Dallas, Colorado, and LA all play outside of the cities proper.

Ives Galarcep is a columnist for SoccerNet and reporter who covers the NY Red Bulls for the North Jersey Media Group (e.g. Bergen Record) and so he has a lot of news and info about MLS. There's plenty on his blog now about the draft, where Eddie Johnson is going, but the biggest one now in my opinion has to do with the academy system.

The Red Bulls, DC United, and Chivas USA - all of whom had youth set-ups prior to this season - will all be able to sign 2 players from their academy system (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/three-mls-teams.html) Why only 2? Namely as to not undercut the draft and to allow the academies to get set-up and develop players. Needless to say, MLS allowing these signings is the start to having proper academies in MLS and in the future I think it will grow instead of shrink.

Why 2? I think it's a test run. I don't think many high school kids should throw away college eligibility for a MLS developmental contract. And teams don't have more than 2 senior roster spaces (out of 18) to use on 17 year olds. So I don't see the limit as much of an issue yet.

By the way, I think Toronto is "in the city", Columbus is within city boundaries but a few miles north of downtown proper and on state fairground land, LA is nicely located of an interstate between the 2 population bases of LA proper and Orange County (though surrounded by ghetto areas). The rest are outside various fringes of city limits and based around suburban locations.

I'm a believer in Harrison, but the issue is that NY is so much bigger a metro area than any other in the US, organized around a highly populated & developed downtown (as LA is not), that when you put a stadium in a DIFFERENT STATE than that highly developed and proud city (NYC, NY) - you're bound to get some in the city limits that have a hard time relating to the team as their own. Given the poor start on the field (anything less than a trophy to NYC is disappointing) over the first 12 seasons, along with a name change and unfavorable comparisons to the Cosmos, it's going to be tough for RBNY to serve the whole market to the degree that another team is unecessary. I'm also not convinced Americans want derbies, but in Europe it does seem to work (Glasgow's teams vs Edinborough, London's wealth of teams vs Paris). I think a rivalry with a NYC proper team could work, but agree it's no guarantee. I'd also agree that RBNY can serve the NYC market, but it's not going to be easy.

captain coliseum
01-04-2008, 01:13 PM
I'll start believing that a NY "derby" (this isn't England, they're rivalries here) would help the Red Bulls when the Red Bulls start drawing larger crowds. Plus, what city in MLS has a stadium literally in the city? Chicago, Dallas, Colorado, and LA all play outside of the cities proper.

Ives Galarcep is a columnist for SoccerNet and reporter who covers the NY Red Bulls for the North Jersey Media Group (e.g. Bergen Record) and so he has a lot of news and info about MLS. There's plenty on his blog now about the draft, where Eddie Johnson is going, but the biggest one now in my opinion has to do with the academy system.

The Red Bulls, DC United, and Chivas USA - all of whom had youth set-ups prior to this season - will all be able to sign 2 players from their academy system (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/three-mls-teams.html) Why only 2? Namely as to not undercut the draft and to allow the academies to get set-up and develop players. Needless to say, MLS allowing these signings is the start to having proper academies in MLS and in the future I think it will grow instead of shrink.

Yes you are right about only a couple of teams playing in the actual city proper, but at least it's in the same state. It isn't that big of deal to me because again, I have Red Bulls season tickets and have been going to games ever since the beginning, but when there is talk of an MLS team coming to play 10 minutes from your house you're going to get excited and really pull for it to happen. I don't want to turn this thread into a debate on wheter there should be a team in NYC, I just put the petition on my earlier post in case any one agreed with it. If you don't think there should be a team in NYC then don't sign the petition, it's not a big deal.

krudmonk
01-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Yes you are right about only a couple of teams playing in the actual city proper, but at least it's in the same state.
St Louis may be getting a stadium in Illinois. Are soccer fans there *****ing about that?

captain coliseum
01-04-2008, 05:38 PM
St Louis may be getting a stadium in Illinois. Are soccer fans there *****ing about that?

Again, if you don't agree with me then don't sign the f*&^in' petition. I'm not the only one that has these feelings, 99% of soccer fans in NYC would agree with me.

undraftedstlouis
01-04-2008, 08:57 PM
St Louis may be getting a stadium in Illinois. Are soccer fans there *****ing about that?

There are serious concerns about the willingness of the bulk of soccer fans in the west crossing the river. But there are less entertainment options than in NYC, it's a historic soccer community, and the snobbery towards the Illinois side of town is significant but not at a NY->NJ level.

Also, KC is now progressing towards a stadium in Missouri (the metro area is almost 50/50 split) but was looking at some Kansas sites the last couple of years. There seemed little concern there, but then again many thought they almost lost the team altogether.

DevilFisch
01-09-2008, 08:21 PM
A ton of things to look forward to:

FIRST: FC Dallas has signed defender Duilio Davino from Club America, according to SoccerNet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=496886&cc=5901) Guess he'll be a good replacement for Clarence Goodson. He'll be popular (assuming he doesn't flame out like Denilson).

SECOND: Ives Galarcep used to be the NY Red Bulls & soccer reporter for the Bergen Record/North Jersey Media Group. Well, he's no longer with them. Instead, he's taken his popular Soccer By Ives blog from NJMG with him onto his own site: Soccer By Ives. (http://www.soccerbyives.net) This is great because he's got some hot news like...

-The MLS Combine Rosters! (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/mls-combine-ros.html#more)
-Links to stories like RSL trading Alecko Eskanderian to Chivas USA! (http://www.sltrib.com/realsaltlake/ci_7914131)
-The Crew refusing to trade their DP! (Sorry LA and Chicago!) (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/crew-our-design.html)
-Guillermo Baros Schelotto staying with Columbus. (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/mccullers-schel.html)
-Chicago and Houston both can sign youth players! (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/chicago-and-hou.html)

So there.

THIRD: Red Bulls have named Jeff Agoos as sporting director (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=496358&cc=5901) Well, Reyna's returning - not that I felt he was truly bad unlike, say, Denilson. Don't say that around some "fans," though.

DevilFisch
01-10-2008, 05:10 PM
Jersey sponsor update!

In reading Luis Arrovaye's blog at the Chicago Tribune (http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/soccer_redcard/2008/01/best-buy-to-spo.html), it has been revealed that Best Buy will be the sponsors on the front of the Chicago Fire's jerseys. He also has a round up on what teams have a front sponsor (I didn't know about Columbus' sponsor).

Good sponsor, well-known brand here, but...Blue and Yellow for a Red and White team? Interesting.

ALSO: From MLS' website:
-The 2008 Generation Adidas Class! (http://www.mlsnet.com//news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080110&content_id=134979&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp) Patrick Nyarko may be the #1 pick in the upcoming SuperDraft. So keep an eye on him. Josh Lambo and Alex Nimo supposedly have a boatload of potential as well.
-San Jose obtains GK Joe Cannon from LA for allocation money (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080110&content_id=134986&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp) Maybe LA can spend it on finding a new GK.

Free Agents
01-12-2008, 11:43 AM
"Canadian O'Brian White wins NCAA soccer MVP"

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/293362


Just thought I'd post this because I went to high school with him. Congrats to O'Brian. Hope to see him in a TFC uni in 2 years. :handclap:

DevilFisch
01-15-2008, 05:32 PM
Lots of stuff:

First! From the MLS official site!
(http://www.mlsnet.com)
Best Buy is the OFFICIAL shirt sponsor for Chicago

[url=http://www.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080115&content_id=135408&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp]FC Dallas continues their make over as does the LA Galaxy with a trade involving Carlos Ruiz. (http://www.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080115&content_id=135423&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) Ruiz returns to LA in exchange for cash allocation and a second rounder in 2009. (Additional info at Soccernet. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=498636&cc=5901))

That's not the only big trade, Kansas City Wizards ship defender Nick Garcia to the San Jose Earthquakes for their #1 overall pick! (http://www.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080115&content_id=135406&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp) Like San Jose really needed a defender, but OK. Guess Patrick Nyarko is going to be in a different shade of blue now.

Second! SuperDraft is this Friday at Baltimore to be aired at 2 PM EST on ESPN2. Not ready? No clue on who's available and who may be worth giving a damn? No problem! Buzz Carrick of 3rd Degree (http://www.3rddegree.net/) has written a number of articles about the prospects of this year's draft by position. Learn about the top GKs (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=492428&root=mls&cc=5901), defenders (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=493912&root=mls&cc=5901), midfielders (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=495324&root=mls&cc=5901), and strikers. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=496965&root=mls&cc=5901) Through du Nord (http://dunord.blogspot.com), I learn of this Soccernet column about the top 10 draft steals by Steve Davis (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=498263&root=mls&cc=5901). Ante Razov everyone!

Third! Ives Galarcep is reporting that the Garcia deal may make some sense as Johnson may be on his way to Fulham (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/johnson-to-fulh.html) Well he can't possibly be as useless as "The Offside Machine" Collins John.

Fourth! At the official NY Red Bulls site there is proof of a stadium being built. (http://web.mlsnet.com/t107/index_no_ad.jsp) Take THAT, 60-90 day delays!

Fifth! Chicago gets BALD with their new head coach Denis Hamlett (http://chicago.fire.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20080114&content_id=135284&vkey=news_chf&fext=.jsp&team=t100) They stay within the system by promoting their assistant. Good for them.

Live in the Now
01-15-2008, 07:24 PM
Oh great, Ruiz.

:shakehead

undraftedstlouis
01-15-2008, 09:01 PM
SJ should've gotten more for the #1 overall pick.

Razov wasn't much of a draft day steal since LA barely played him and cut him after 2 years. Chicago picked him up in 1998 as a discovery signing and the rest is history.

It's hard to believe Ruiz is 28. He's well positioned for a comeback. Let's hope he fits the Galaxy better than fellow Central American Carlos Pavon did. Look for a big year from Kenny Cooper.

Hamlett's gotta hope for a good start. Let's hope his roster stays healthy.

Ives also reports there a Burciaga to Colorado trade. I like that move as Prideaux is no longer starting quality in MLS (but a solid squad player).

Chimaera
01-15-2008, 09:30 PM
DC is pretty much close to getting a few South American Division 2 and other random players. A goalie, a defenseman and a forward is what I've read. I'll post more later if people are interested, but its mostly just speculation.

BenIgnorant
01-18-2008, 12:57 PM
MLS Draft going on right now, some surprises in there too:

1. KC= D Chance Myers
2. DAL= M/D Breck Shea
3. RSL= M/D Tony Beltran
4. LA= M/D Sean Franklin
5. COL= M Ciaran O'Brien
6. CLB= D Andy Iro
7. CHI= F Patrick Nyarko
8. DAL= GK Josh Lambo9. TOR= D Julius James
10. TOR= D/M(?) Pat Phelan

The rest http://www.mlsnet.com/mls/events/superdraft/2008/search.jsp.

BTW, shocked that Avila didn't go in the top 10 (or 12 for that matter)

Also a trade: Albright to NE for allocation money.
Eskandarian traded to CHV for allocation money.

Dartmouth 02
01-18-2008, 01:39 PM
Wow on Nyarko falling that far.

undraftedstlouis
01-18-2008, 04:30 PM
How about Xavier Balc, star of College Cup finalist Ohio State and Big 10 player of the year going undrafted? Sure he's slow, a bit inconsistent, lacks versatility for many MLS systems, and plays a position usually filled by an "expensive" foreigner. But surely worth a 4th round draft pick?

So much for the College Cup being the place to scout talent (noone from UMass taken, Valentin fell considering he was a US u20 starter). Would have been better off catching a West Coast Conference (Santa Clara/Gonzaga) or Big West game (UCSB/Cal St Northridge).

undraftedstlouis
01-18-2008, 04:32 PM
Wow on Nyarko falling that far.

I've gotta watch Ciaran O'Brien on a game I have saved on tape (haven't seen him since 2006), but that's the pick over Nyarko that I'm having a hard time believing.

TheSchwab
01-18-2008, 07:12 PM
Fourth! At the official NY Red Bulls site there is proof of a stadium being built. (http://web.mlsnet.com/t107/index_no_ad.jsp) Take THAT, 60-90 day delays!.

Any idea where that will be?

DevilFisch
01-18-2008, 11:22 PM
Red Bull Park is being built in Harrison, New Jersey.

Also: I knew the SuperDraft was going to be heavy on the midfielders and defenders; but wow at Nyarko dropping to #7 (I know he'd take up an international spot; but I thought KC would need a forward?) and Balc not being drafted at all. I heard Balc didn't look so good at the combine but I didn't think he'd fall through everyone. Maybe Balc is looking to do what Andy Wright did and sign with a European team, leaving MLS teams to basically forget about spending a pick on him.

DevilFisch
01-24-2008, 05:02 PM
DC United is loading up on talent abroad again: They pick up 24 year old Argentine forward Franco Niell for a 1 year loan from Argentinos Juniors. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR2008012203070.html) And there's 2, maybe 3, more to be formally announced (including maybe Marcello Gallardo). As they are formally announced, I'll note them.

The MLS Supplemental Draft took place today and Xavier Balc FINALLY got picked...second. Ives Galarcep has the whole draft results. (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/01/mls-supplemen-1.html#more)

The Seattle MLS Team To Be Named Later has announced Chris Henderson as their technical director (http://www.mlsinseattle.com/article.aspx?id=856)

The MLS main site has the 2008 Pre-season schedule for all the teams. (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080124&content_id=136437&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp) And yes, NY will go down to Charleston for the Carolina Challenge Cup. The link gives you crucial CONCACAF Champions Cup dates as well.

Beckham isn't for sale. (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080123&content_id=136262&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) Seriously, guys.

The Columbus Crew are selling Marcos Gonzalez to Universidad Catolica of Chile (http://columbus.crew.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20080124&content_id=136506&vkey=pr_coc&fext=.jsp&team=t102) I guess they are really high on Andy Iro.

New England Revolution forward Pat Noonan is going Aalesund on a free transfer (http://www.socceramerica.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=25291) Guess Noonan won't be tasting any MLS Cup glory after all; for the Revs' sake, they better hope Adam Cristman develops into a starting role.

undraftedstlouis
01-24-2008, 05:32 PM
Marcos Gonzalez has been asking to go home for a year now. He'll probably get national team callups with that move. Chad Marshall and Danny O'Rourke are the planned pairing for next year. Some risk there (concussions & conversion of a d-mid), but Iro will get some time to claim one of the spots. Iro may have the highest upside (for the next 4 years) of anyone in the draft.

BubbaBoot
01-26-2008, 08:10 AM
New England Revolution forward Pat Noonan is going Aalesund on a free transfer (http://www.socceramerica.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=25291) Guess Noonan won't be tasting any MLS Cup glory after all; for the Revs' sake, they better hope Adam Cristman develops into a starting role.

While Noonan's groin problems kept him off the field (for the USMNT also, missed his chance for the last WC), he had a fair amount of creativity and field sense. I'm not sold right now Christman. He's got speed, strength and toughness, but nearly no foot skills at all. He looks like a (very, VERY), poor man's Rooney right now.

I like what I saw in Thompson during the playoffs though....looking forward to see what he does this next season.

I also like the addition of Albright immensely and there's talk of the Rev's going to a 4 man back line. Every time I saw him he would pretty much swallow up anyone near him....you couldn't beat him inside or out.

undraftedstlouis
01-26-2008, 02:22 PM
While Noonan's groin problems kept him off the field (for the USMNT also, missed his chance for the last WC), he had a fair amount of creativity and field sense. I'm not sold right now Christman. He's got speed, strength and toughness, but nearly no foot skills at all. He looks like a (very, VERY), poor man's Rooney right now.

I like what I saw in Thompson during the playoffs though....looking forward to see what he does this next season.

I also like the addition of Albright immensely and there's talk of the Rev's going to a 4 man back line. Every time I saw him he would pretty much swallow up anyone near him....you couldn't beat him inside or out.

I agree that Cristman shouldn't be counted on as a starter. He may continue to suprise me, but New England has been shallow at striker depth for years and ought to consider brining in a foreigner or two. Thompson has potential but I'd be wary of a sophmore slump. Albright is a great pickup if he stays healthy. I suppose Heaps can play in the middle with his ups, but New England needs to start considering grooming someone to replace Parkhurst.

Nicol seems to like a small squad and is wisely cautious with spending. With Ralston aging and Twellman & Joseph getting European interest, the core of the team might be replaced in the next year or two. Now that Gillette isn't grass, does he need to worry more about injuries? Nicol seems to avoid project youngsters. He got 4 22 year olds in the draft. Dempsey wasn't really replaced and the team seems to need a little bit more of something special to break through as champions.

KevinLin
01-30-2008, 11:55 AM
Philly(Chester) stadium got funding approval. Which means Philly should get the team over St. Louis since they have stadium and ownership and everything now.

Chimaera
01-30-2008, 12:46 PM
DC loses their top pick (a 2nd rounder) to Lorient in France. Goff with Soccer Insider says. Not really shocked. Makes sense for him. 2nd rounder money in MLS is a joke. Players are stupid to sign here starting out if they can cut it in the reserves in Europe.


Though, overall, DC United's offseason has been pretty productive. Just need to get a high pick or allocation money from Colorado or someone from Christian Gomez.


Looking for another strong run.

NobodyBeatsTheWiz
02-02-2008, 06:14 AM
DC loses their top pick (a 2nd rounder) to Lorient in France. Goff with Soccer Insider says. Not really shocked. Makes sense for him. 2nd rounder money in MLS is a joke. Players are stupid to sign here starting out if they can cut it in the reserves in Europe.


Though, overall, DC United's offseason has been pretty productive. Just need to get a high pick or allocation money from Colorado or someone from Christian Gomez.


Looking for another strong run.

You can always count on DC to be productive in the offseason. They are the best run organization in the MLS, IMO.

Lets hope one of the South American signings this year hae an impact like Luciano Emilio did.

DevilFisch
02-02-2008, 02:35 PM
DC loses their top pick (a 2nd rounder) to Lorient in France. Goff with Soccer Insider says. Not really shocked. Makes sense for him. 2nd rounder money in MLS is a joke. Players are stupid to sign here starting out if they can cut it in the reserves in Europe.

Based on salary, yes. But if Jacobson wants playing time, he better stand out. Sitting on a bench in Europe doesn't improve your development like regular minutes.

So who will play DM for DC United/who will I yell at if Clyde Simms is hurt?

undraftedstlouis
02-02-2008, 06:54 PM
Based on salary, yes. But if Jacobson wants playing time, he better stand out. Sitting on a bench in Europe doesn't improve your development like regular minutes.

So who will play DM for DC United/who will I yell at if Clyde Simms is hurt?

Probably Ben Olsen. Namoff started his career as a d-mid IIRC. DC seems to need to add some midfield depth unless some developmental players steps up. Dyachenko is a possibility as is Mediate. I've yet to see Jeff Carroll play. I don't blame Jacobsen, but would prefer MLS move towards a system that keeps these second tier prospects (mainly an expanded senior roster and maybe some cap space set aside for younger domestic players). DC has missed out on adding many prospects in the last couple of drafts (no valuable main roster expempt Generation Adidas players being developed now that Arguez was sold).

DC seems to have used up their cap room (per Goff IIRC) so anyone else added would probably be unspectacular. DC is also pushing the 18 man senior roster limit.

the likely 18:
4 Marc Burch D 1984-05-07 2
7 Fred M 1979-08-18 1
Jose Carvallo GK 1986-03-01 0
15 Rod Dyachenko F 1983-09-22 2
11 Luciano Emilio F 1978-12-12 S-I 1
Marcelo Gallardo M 1976-01-18 0
20 Guy-Roland Kpene F 1983-01-10 1
Gonzalo Martinez D 1975-11-30 S-I 0
18 Devon McTavish D 1984-08-08 2
12 Domenic Mediate M 1982-06-01 3
99 Jaime Moreno F 1974-01-19 12
26 Bryan Namoff D 1979-05-28 7
14 Ben Olsen M 1977-05-03 9
Gonzalo Peralta D 1980-09-17 0
19 Clyde Simms M-D 1982-08-21 3
23 Jamil Walker M-F 1981-04-21 4
Zach Wells GK 1981-02-26 3

and Niell on the way

with others on the roster (Gros likely retired or on injured reserve)
24 Jeff Carroll M-D 1984-01-08 1
21 Stephen deRoux M-D 1983-12-13 2
27 Jerson Monteiro F 1985-04-28 1
8 Justin Moose M 1983-11-23 2

possibly needing a senior roster spot (I think 83s like deRoux and Moose would have to be senior roster). Walker might be replaced, but probably by a forward.

So while another midfielder or two might be brought in, it's unlikely to be a Mastroeni level player. DC is lacking natural wingers and a bit in depth at striker (if Moreno goes down or Niell is a bust). But with the roster rules, Kasper and Soehn have pretty much made all the big choices.

DevilFisch
02-07-2008, 04:45 PM
MLS has announced the regular season schedule!
(http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080207&content_id=138148&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp)
It begins with a double header on March 29; Houston Dynamo @ New England Revolution (that should be a party) and the LA Galaxy @ Colorado Rapids. Both games will be on FSC.

ESPN2's coverage of the MLS season will also begin with a double header on Thursday, April 3 with New England Revolution @ Chicago Fire and San Jose Earthquakes @ LA Galaxy.

The All-Star Game will be on July 24. MLS Cup will take place on Sunday, November 23.

By the by, Colorado will have a press conference tomorrow at 2 PM for a BIG NAME SIGNING (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20080207&content_id=138172&vkey=pr_cor&fext=.jsp&team=t101) Yeah. Is it Christian Gomez? Before you say that's not a big name signing, he is one of MLS' best players ever so far in it's existence.

Dartmouth 02
02-07-2008, 05:45 PM
DevilFisch, I'd better be hearing of/seeing you at some RBNY games this season. Reyna needs the fans :sarcasm:

DevilFisch
02-07-2008, 07:46 PM
DevilFisch, I'd better be hearing of/seeing you at some RBNY games this season. Reyna needs the fans :sarcasm:

Reyna wasn't even the worst player on that team. Or even the worst DP (thanks FC Dallas!). :p:

Yeah, I'll be with Raging Bull Nation not ESC.

DevilFisch
02-11-2008, 07:14 PM
Colorado Rapids trade for Christian Gomez of DC United (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/02/my-take-on-the.html)

Wait, no, they traded for the right to talk to Gomez?

A first round pick and a DP slot?

It's official: Colorado is the front runner for dumbest move in soccer in 2008 so far.

undraftedstlouis
02-11-2008, 08:19 PM
Everyone knows Colorado isn't using their DP slot. Maybe they could have got something good for it by another trade. Christian Gomez makes Colorado a much better team assuming his legs don't fall off (he's approaching that age). Yes, a suspicious trade. But who knows if any other MLS team was willing to trade to sign Gomez. That DP slot is likely to go unused for the next 2-3 years. That slot and pick could be the next Denilson & Justin Moose. If Gomez produces for 3 years, at least Colorado is better. This does make the Beckerman/Ballouchy trade look even worse. I'll agree that it does seem to high a price to pay. But I think time will tell if it's so bad as everyone seems to think.

DevilFisch
02-11-2008, 08:46 PM
DC United has been excellent in finding players abroad, a DP slot for them would help drop more coin for a big name player. Colorado better play well otherwise they handed DC a high first rounder in exchange for a 33 year old AM C who has some left in the tank now but may not in 2-3 years.

DevilFisch
02-21-2008, 05:26 PM
It's all but official, but Philadelphia looks to be announced as the official 16th team in MLS (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20080221_Soccer_announcement_date_is_set_for_Feb__ 28_Plans_for_an_expansion_team_and_stadium_will_be _unveiled_in_Chester_next_week__sources_say_.html) They will begin in 2010.

Start thinking of some names for Philly guys. I'd like to see The Philadelphia Brotherhood as their name. It's different and not remotely Euro-posing.

The Korean
02-21-2008, 05:54 PM
It's all but official, but Philadelphia looks to be announced as the official 16th team in MLS (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20080221_Soccer_announcement_date_is_set_for_Feb__ 28_Plans_for_an_expansion_team_and_stadium_will_be _unveiled_in_Chester_next_week__sources_say_.html) They will begin in 2010.

Start thinking of some names for Philly guys. I'd like to see The Philadelphia Brotherhood as their name. It's different and not remotely Euro-posing.

How about FC Murder City, USA?

DevilFisch
02-21-2008, 06:08 PM
How about FC Murder City, USA?

Compton and Camden don't have a MLS teams.

Dartmouth 02
02-21-2008, 09:17 PM
Philadelphia Athletic. Ties into the sports history of the city.

undraftedstlouis
02-21-2008, 10:14 PM
Compton and Camden don't have a MLS teams.

Carson is only 7 miles from Compton ...

undraftedstlouis
02-21-2008, 10:17 PM
Houston is looking pretty good for preseason. Depth at forward is still an issue, but with that midfield, anyone half-way decent will do ok as long as Ching stays healthy.

LA is still a mess. Yeah, Donovan and Ruiz weren't playing, but the team clearly still has a few holes and doubtfully much cap room. At least it's still early ...

Gord Millers Chin
02-21-2008, 10:39 PM
Compton and Camden don't have a MLS teams.

no but newirk, nj has a NHL team. lol.

DevilFisch
02-22-2008, 06:51 PM
I thought Compton and Camden were #1 and #2 in terms of murder rates in the country?

Also, Newark and Carson aren't near those cities - by virtue of being their own city.

Anyway, if I were a LA fan, I wouldn't be jumping out the window. Wait, the team still has Edson Buddle at striker?

:shakehead:rant::help:

Well, maybe the fall won't be so bad.

undraftedstlouis
02-24-2008, 04:40 PM
Well a J-League team (Gamba Osaka) destroyed DeRo-less Houston via a Brazilian (Bare). LA wins the rather insignificant 3rd place match. How much is Bare making in Japan? Houston doesn't have a good fill-in for DeRo (sorry Brad Davis, you're good, just not at that level). Bare showed that Houston has some vulnerability down the middle of the backline. With Robinson, the still developing Ianni and the former defender of the year, turned 2008 DC benchwarmer Boswell showed some awful leaks. Houston hung on into the second half but in an open game where they were playing for a comeback, the Japanese Brazilian players outclassed everyone else on the field.

Chimaera
02-24-2008, 04:43 PM
Boswell thought he smelled Europe calling and his head has been there since before last season.


He's been awful for a while now. Sad really. He had a decent amount of upside, at this point, I'm not sure he doesn't end up in the USL or down with the Beasley Brother if he bombs in Houston.





I wouldn't read much into a silly tournament already. Houston would be a lot better in midseason form. Not sure whether or not the J-League is, just Houston sometimes takes a bit to get off and running.

DevilFisch
02-25-2008, 05:42 PM
It's a pre-season tournament; are we going to seriously consider the Carolina Challenge Cup to require serious analysis? At least outside of BigSoccer?

But seriously, Houston does have some issues. They are mightly thin up top and if DeRo does go down, the Dynamo are definitely going to be in a tight spot. Given that MLS is a fairly competitive league from top to bottom, Houston stood out because they had some depth to go with their quality talent. I think Ianni will still develop into a good player and Boswell will find "it" again. But Houston really needs another weapon at striker.

Pavel
02-26-2008, 01:57 PM
I agree about the Dynamo but what team wouldn't have issues if their best player went down? The depth is being tapped into this year with Ngwenya and Jaqua moving on but neither one of those players were with the team to start the season. Up front depth needs to be address but I have not doubt the front office will make the necessary adjustments. This team usually makes all the right moves. I expect Holden will play a much bigger roll this year and probably pickup some of the scoring slack.

DevilFisch
02-26-2008, 04:53 PM
True. Pretty much every team in the league is messed up if their best player goes down (except LA - well, depending on who you consider to be their best player).

Maybe Mayweather should look into a team in St. Louis? Because De La Hoya is going to become a part owner of Houston. (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5568891.html) AEG would only own half of the team; so it's a tiny step towards different owners for different teams.

If you're looking for Red Bulls' preseason news, Ives has your news hook-up. (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/02/red-bulls-updat.html#more) Yes, it's true, Kevin Goldthwaite has had a strong camp. He's had to have one, he was miserable last season at left back.

go kim johnsson 514
02-28-2008, 01:00 PM
I just hope it's a real name.


Judging by the way they're talking in the presser, I don't know if Philadelphia will even be associated in the name. Everything is "Chester" this and "Chester" that. The team might be "Pennsylvania"


edit: nevermind, Michael Nutter (mayor of Philly) is there.

Now they're bringing up a bunch of kids to sit on stage.


How much do tickets typically run for?

Golden Slumbers
02-28-2008, 03:34 PM
TFC traded Ronnie O'Brien to San Jose today for a first round draft pick and some cash.

Can't say I'm too disappointed. He was a good player, but he was also made of glass.

DevilFisch
02-28-2008, 04:05 PM
How much do tickets typically run for?

Hmmm...single games at the Red Bulls have three levels. $22 for sections by the corner flags; $30 in the sections to left and right of the center between the middle and corner; and $40 right at the center of the field. (ASIDE: Apparently, you can only buy tickets for one side of the field? I guess pack the crowd so it looks better on TV. Poor Kearny Army, they're on the other corner.)

I would imagine Philly to have similar prices. I've noticed a lot of teams offer packages of multiple tickets + merch and partial plans at reasonable prices.

Real Salt Lake gets a target (I hope) striker: Kenny Deuchar, formerly of Gretna FC. (http://www.sltrib.com/realsaltlake/ci_8376748) Maybe this will be the year RSL breaks out?

Colorado Rapids get Tim Ward and a third round supplemental pick from the Columbus Crew in exchange for forward Nicolas Hernandez. (http://www.coloradorapids.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=E615j+Lstc8=) Ward tends to play left back...and the Rapids already have Jose Burciaga Jr. (obtained from Kansas City for a pick at the 2008 SuperDraft). So I don't really understand why this move was made?

Pavel
02-28-2008, 05:12 PM
The Dynamo signed Argentine forward Franco Caraccio from Arsenal of the Argentine First Division.

We'll see how much this address the up front depth.

Chimaera
02-28-2008, 06:08 PM
[QUOTE=DevilFisch;12775857]True. Pretty much every team in the league is messed up if their best player goes down (except LA - well, depending on who you consider to be their best player).

/QUOTE]

I don't know, United does poorly when Moreno isn't playing a ton. He isn't their best player. Emilio is.

sure they're hurt when either is out, but I think they've got a couple of pretty good players (for MLS) who can pick up the slack.

go kim johnsson 514
03-01-2008, 12:54 PM
Hmmm...single games at the Red Bulls have three levels. $22 for sections by the corner flags; $30 in the sections to left and right of the center between the middle and corner; and $40 right at the center of the field. (ASIDE: Apparently, you can only buy tickets for one side of the field? I guess pack the crowd so it looks better on TV. Poor Kearny Army, they're on the other corner.)

I would imagine Philly to have similar prices. I've noticed a lot of teams offer packages of multiple tickets + merch and partial plans at reasonable prices.



They're shooting for like 18,500. Is that a standard size for a soccer-style stadium in the US?

Tricolore#20
03-01-2008, 01:42 PM
They're shooting for like 18,500. Is that a standard size for a soccer-style stadium in the US?

Yeah, seems like soccer specific stadiums are being built to that size, with room for expansion. Home Depot Center in LA is the biggest of the bunch, and seats something like 27-28k. BMO Stadium in Toronto is about 20,000, but they continually talk about expanding the place.

KevinLin
03-02-2008, 01:23 PM
They're shooting for like 18,500. Is that a standard size for a soccer-style stadium in the US?

18500 permanent, 21000 for special games is what I have been hearing. I am hoping for Philadelphia Athletic as the name and either Blue and Gold or Green and White as the colors.

DevilFisch
03-03-2008, 06:26 PM
They probably will have some shade of blue, as nearly every damn team in MLS has it except for Columbus, Toronto, and Chicago.

Speaking of, the end of this month begins the 2008 MLS season. Slogans are coming out like Columbus' Work Hard. Play Harder. Ooof.

go kim johnsson 514
03-05-2008, 02:16 PM
18500 permanent, 21000 for special games is what I have been hearing. I am hoping for Philadelphia Athletic as the name and either Blue and Gold or Green and White as the colors.

Any reason for such combinations?


I would love green, as it's my favorite color.

Dartmouth 02
03-05-2008, 02:20 PM
Its going to be light blue and yellow, like the retro eagles jerseys.

GarretJoseph
03-06-2008, 09:58 AM
18500 permanent, 21000 for special games is what I have been hearing. I am hoping for Philadelphia Athletic as the name and either Blue and Gold or Green and White as the colors.

The Red Bulls are building a soccer specific stadium too and it is expected to have a capacity of about 25,000 or more from what I've read & heard.

MLS hopefully will realize that most New Yorkers (In Manhattan, Queens & Brooklyn) who really enjoy MLS won't really travel down to Harrison when they move - its already a bit of a hassle getting to Giants Stadium. Hopefully MLS will award a team to NYC in Queens (Is what I'm hearing).... Was very hard to become a Metrostars or Red Bulls supporter when the team was constantly being changed year in, year out... if no MLS team is awarded to the NYC area then I would prob still have to make that trip 2-4 times a year to watch the Red Bulls even though I would prefer to buy season tickets for a team out in Queens/Manhattan.

DevilFisch
03-06-2008, 04:25 PM
The Red Bulls are building a soccer specific stadium too and it is expected to have a capacity of about 25,000 or more from what I've read & heard.

MLS hopefully will realize that most New Yorkers (In Manhattan, Queens & Brooklyn) who really enjoy MLS won't really travel down to Harrison when they move - its already a bit of a hassle getting to Giants Stadium. Hopefully MLS will award a team to NYC in Queens (Is what I'm hearing).... Was very hard to become a Metrostars or Red Bulls supporter when the team was constantly being changed year in, year out... if no MLS team is awarded to the NYC area then I would prob still have to make that trip 2-4 times a year to watch the Red Bulls even though I would prefer to buy season tickets for a team out in Queens/Manhattan.

Where would such a team play? Where in the city would you even put a soccer specific stadium? And Harrison is as simple as taking the train to Newark Penn Station and then taking the PATH to Harrison; no driving necessary.

BubbaBoot
03-08-2008, 12:00 AM
There's been talk of a soccer-specific stadium in the Boston area for the Revs, but not too seriously right now. I imagine Bob Kraft really doesn't mind using his stadium during the Pats off-season, but I for sure don't like heading down to Foxborough myself.

krudmonk
03-08-2008, 04:24 PM
Where would such a team play? Where in the city would you even put a soccer specific stadium? And Harrison is as simple as taking the train to Newark Penn Station and then taking the PATH to Harrison; no driving necessary.
You cannot reason with NYCFC dreamers. It's "city limits or bust."

DevilFisch
03-08-2008, 05:03 PM
You cannot reason with NYCFC dreamers. It's "city limits or bust."

Such as it is. I don't see why supposed NYC FC gets so much talk when cities like St. Louis and Miami (now there's another return that would be nice: The Revenge of the Fusion) have made some actual waves towards getting a team when NYC FC just has rumors and a dream.

DevilFisch
03-12-2008, 04:28 PM
CONCACAF Champion's Cup! It's ON! (http://www.concacaf.com/competitions/champscup/viewArticle.asp?id=4108)

And it already started. Two MLS teams: Supporter's Shield winners DC United and MLS Champions Houston Dynamo start tonight.

I don't have results yet because CONCACAF's site sucks.

Round 1
Leg 1, 3/12: DC United @ Harbor View (Jamaica)
Leg 2, 3/18: Harbor View @ DC United

Leg 1, 3/12: Houston Dynamo @ CSD Municipal (Guatemala)
Leg 2, 3/18: CSD Municipal @ Houston Dynamo

Leg 1, 3/11: Pachuca CF (Mexico) @ CD Motagua (Honduras)
Leg 2, 3/19: CD Motagua @ Pachuca CF

Leg 1, 3/11: Atlante FC (Mexico) @ Deportivo Saprissa (Costa Rica)
Leg 2, 3/19: Deportivo Saprissa @ Atlante FC

Both DC and Houston games are on FSC. DC's game is at 8 PM EST and Houston's game is at 10 PM EST.

TheSchwab
03-14-2008, 06:12 PM
MLS getting close :D

DevilFisch
03-18-2008, 09:32 PM
DC United dropped a train of PAIN on Harbor View FC in the second leg of the CONCACAF Champions Cup first round. 5-0! (http://www.mlsnet.com//news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080318&content_id=143916&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp)

Yeah, they move on.

In a bizarre move, Mo Johnston is looking to bring back Amado Guevara from whereever in Honduras to Toronto FC. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=517578&cc=5901) He's got talent and more baggage than an airport. I wonder if he'll go sit in the stands after being subbed out again like he did in 2006 in NY...

captain coliseum
03-19-2008, 09:25 AM
Hmmm...single games at the Red Bulls have three levels. $22 for sections by the corner flags; $30 in the sections to left and right of the center between the middle and corner; and $40 right at the center of the field. (ASIDE: Apparently, you can only buy tickets for one side of the field? I guess pack the crowd so it looks better on TV. Poor Kearny Army, they're on the other corner.)

I would imagine Philly to have similar prices. I've noticed a lot of teams offer packages of multiple tickets + merch and partial plans at reasonable prices.

Real Salt Lake gets a target (I hope) striker: Kenny Deuchar, formerly of Gretna FC. (http://www.sltrib.com/realsaltlake/ci_8376748) Maybe this will be the year RSL breaks out?

Colorado Rapids get Tim Ward and a third round supplemental pick from the Columbus Crew in exchange for forward Nicolas Hernandez. (http://www.coloradorapids.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=E615j+Lstc8=) Ward tends to play left back...and the Rapids already have Jose Burciaga Jr. (obtained from Kansas City for a pick at the 2008 SuperDraft). So I don't really understand why this move was made?


I might be wrong, but I heard that season ticket holders with their seats on the other side will be able to stay. At least we won't be looking at a completely empty and tarped off side like in New England.

captain coliseum
03-19-2008, 09:30 AM
Such as it is. I don't see why supposed NYC FC gets so much talk when cities like St. Louis and Miami (now there's another return that would be nice: The Revenge of the Fusion) have made some actual waves towards getting a team when NYC FC just has rumors and a dream.

It gets talk because the league has always wanted another team in the NY area. It is constantly being mentioned by Garber that Fred Wilpon (owner of the Mets) wants a stadium built in Flushing next to CitiField. According to him, talks with Wilpon are moving along nicely. You can't deny that it wouldn't be great fopr the league to have a team in Queens, and those rivalry games with the Red Bulls would be the best in the MLS.

DevilFisch
03-25-2008, 12:27 PM
Hey, the MLS Season begins this Saturday!

No, really!

Week 1. All times in EST. Bold is My Unofficial Game of the Week

Saturday
Toronto FC @ Columbus Crew - 4 PM
Chicago Fire @ Real Salt Lake - 6 PM
Houston Dynamo @ New England Revolution - 7:30 PM, FSC/FSE - MLS Cup 2006 and 2007 Rematch'd! This should be exciting.
DC United @ Kansas City Wizards - 8 PM
LA Galaxy @ Colorado Rapids - 9:30 PM, FSC/FSE


Sunday
Chivas USA @ FC Dallas - 3 PM

TheSchwab
03-25-2008, 06:25 PM
Hey, the MLS Season begins this Saturday!

No, really!

Week 1. All times in EST. Bold is My Unofficial Game of the Week

Saturday
Toronto FC @ Columbus Crew - 4 PM
Chicago Fire @ Real Salt Lake - 6 PM
Houston Dynamo @ New England Revolution - 7:30 PM, FSC/FSE - MLS Cup 2006 and 2007 Rematch'd! This should be exciting.
DC United @ Kansas City Wizards - 8 PM
LA Galaxy @ Colorado Rapids - 9:30 PM, FSC/FSE


Sunday
Chivas USA @ FC Dallas - 3 PM

WOO! Hopefully I can find some links online!

mckly
03-25-2008, 07:11 PM
CBC going to broadcast games again? pm me if so

kidAcbj
03-25-2008, 10:19 PM
I'm very excited to get this season going. I actually just got a position as a promotions intern with the Columbus Crew for this season. I'll be working all the games and going around Ohio promoting the team.

Anyway looking forward to the Crew/Toronto opener. I've heard that nearly 3,000 Toronto fans are coming down. The atmosphere should be pretty crazy!

Kostik20
03-25-2008, 11:48 PM
hey chicago Fire fans, what channels broadcast the fire games???
Thanks in advance!!!:thumbu:

Free Agents
03-29-2008, 11:47 AM
It's Here!! :D Can't wait to see the game today.

Golden Slumbers
03-29-2008, 12:02 PM
It's Here!! :D Can't wait to see the game today.

I'm pretty pumped too, despite literally hearing maybe two or three blurbs on player movement and the like during the entire off season.

I don't even have any idea what the TFC first 11 will look like today.

Chimaera
03-29-2008, 01:02 PM
I'm looking forward to a 2 or 3 goal beatdown on Kansas City.

When Devin McTavish is scoring, you know the offense is charged and ready to go.

DevilFisch
03-29-2008, 01:20 PM
I don't even have any idea what the TFC first 11 will look like today.

Given Mo Johnson's the GM - don't expect it to be a good starting 11.

OK, last minute predictions:

Who'll Be on Top - Chivas USA (injuries sank them last year), DC United (they seem to remain on form together, damn it), Houston Dynamo (like DC, only more cohesive)

Who'll Be at the Bottom? - San Jose Earthquakes (expansion is a tough go), Toronto FC (year 2 of existence, still not good), Colorado Rapids (Clavijo is the coach, what more do I need to say).

Everyone else will be in the middle. As of now, I foresee a DC United-Chivas USA final, won by C-USA.

But the fun of MLS is that you can't possibly predict it just right, so this is quite worthless. Besides, the ones at BigSoccer are much better. GO RED BULLS! DEFY ME!

In Other News:
From CNN, MLS is now flying high - (BAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLIN) thanks to American Airlines (http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/LATU09025032008-1.htm)
This is a bit old, but according to Steven Goff of the Washington Post, DC United will get a sponsor...and it will be some kind of foreign car company. (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2008/03/dcu_sponsored_by.html) I wonder if AMC still exists...
San Jose trades Steve Pozniak to Chivas USA for John Cunliffe (http://sjearthquakes.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20080328&content_id=145937&vkey=pr_sje&fext=.jsp&team=t110) Well, this now means SJ has...3 mediocre forwards?

Chimaera
03-29-2008, 08:11 PM
I'm officially a jinx.

Live in the Now
03-29-2008, 09:43 PM
I don't even know where to start. This was terrible.

HeHateMeFrisbee
03-29-2008, 09:48 PM
i think Beckham might want to go to a decent team/league after this. If i were him I would be so frustrated right now. Awful performance by LA, they couldnt make a pass, and the defending was criminal. Beck's long balls were all they had going at all.

DevilFisch
03-29-2008, 09:53 PM
Well, MLS has it's first transfer window ending at the end of April; followed by another one from June through August, as I understand it.

So...opening day won't mean much in the future? I hear that LA-Colorado game was epic. Epic win for the Rapids, epic failure for the Galaxy, and epically odd things happening that center around Abbey Okulaja - the worst ref in MLS. It's not that LA has nothing; they are dealing with a brand new coach and a horrific GM. Wish I saw it on FSC.

New England torches Houston 3-0; Real Salt Lake got bamboozled late by Blanco for a 1-1 tie with Chicago; Kansas City is now playing at a minor league park...which is better than Arrowhead and did very well with a lovely win over DC United; and Columbus Crew upsets the TFC away supporters with a 2-0 win.

Live in the Now
03-29-2008, 10:01 PM
We were playing them well, until that horrendous penalty call. Oh well, we have the San Jose match coming up, and it should be a victory. But you never know with this group.

HeHateMeFrisbee
03-29-2008, 10:14 PM
is it just me is Xavier one of the worst defenders of all time? And why is he always going crazy? Granted, that penalty was a horrible call, but why on earth would you go at the ref like that?

BubbaBoot
03-30-2008, 07:35 AM
Watched with trepidation as the retooled Revs took the field against Houston..... four starters gone, (Dorman, Riley, Noonan, John) others on Nat'l Team duty,(Khanno Smith) replaced with a bunch of kids and with an injured Twellman on the sidelines and no Wells Thompson.

Lordy don't you know they manhandled the Dynamo.

- Mansally has some creativity and excitement upfront, (which they've lacked since Dempsey went to the EPL), as does Nyassi at midfield.
- Cristman is one-dimensional....big and fast is all he has. His goal was by being in the right place at the right time, hell, I could've scored that one.
- Castro is going to drive opponents crazy with his spectacular diving.
- Larentowicz was awesome....an all-star in the making?
- the three man back line, Heaps (moved over to the left), Parkhurst and newcomer Albright were quietly efficient.
- the midfield was strong, although I'm still not sold with Ralston in the middle, he did a good job holding the ball and scored a great reaction goal on a rebound and Shalrie Joseph was his usual old steamroller self.
- Reis looks like he's lost about 10 pounds and gained a little quickness, which he needed for a great save in Houston's only real chance.

Houston couldn't get anything going....it's a long schedule and it was bitterly cold last night so I don't expect the champs to be this atrocious and meek for the remainder of the season.

DevilFisch
03-30-2008, 02:08 PM
is it just me is Xavier one of the worst defenders of all time? And why is he always going crazy? Granted, that penalty was a horrible call, but why on earth would you go at the ref like that?

Abby Okulaja causes many odd things to happen - namely because a ridiculously horrific ref.

Abby O reffed a Red Bulls-Revs game last year that I took my brother to, his first MLS game. My brother told me after the game that it's the worst reffing he's seen in any sport; given that he's a regular watcher of the NBA, college sports, and football - that's saying a lot.

BubbaBoot
03-30-2008, 03:47 PM
Abby Okulaja causes many odd things to happen - namely because a ridiculously horrific ref.

Abby O reffed a Red Bulls-Revs game last year that I took my brother to, his first MLS game. My brother told me after the game that it's the worst reffing he's seen in any sport; given that he's a regular watcher of the NBA, college sports, and football - that's saying a lot.
I remember watching that one on the tube.....you're right, it was a very bizarrely reffed game.

TheSchwab
03-30-2008, 04:03 PM
My Parents just called and I got digital cable back at home now, including FSC!!!! :yo: :yo: :yo:

BubbaBoot
04-01-2008, 02:50 PM
Wow, a different kind of early season stress test for the NE Revs....usually they start the season with an extended road trip.

This year they started at home against the champion Houston Dynamo, but without Twellman, who now needs arthoscopic knee surgery and will miss Thursdays match against strong rivals Chicago.

They will also be without captain / center-mid Steve Ralston, who suffered a shoulder separation midway through the 2nd half last Saturday.

No word yet on M/F Wells Thompson, who sat out with a heel injury, nor former captain, D/M Joe Franchino, who hasn't played in a year and a half.

Jeez.....despite a strong opening game, this could be a long season if the bench can't handle the early going.

#37
04-01-2008, 05:47 PM
Hrm, for some reason I just can't seem to get into MLS.

I think more games on real grass would help me. I hate the artificial pitches. The ball has too much bounce, and the tackles lack commitment. It's the single reason why I want all US players with national team potential to play abroad.

BubbaBoot
04-01-2008, 09:37 PM
Hrm, for some reason I just can't seem to get into MLS.

I think more games on real grass would help me. I hate the artificial pitches. The ball has too much bounce, and the tackles lack commitment. It's the single reason why I want all US players with national team potential to play abroad.

Oh my, I agree....the Gillette Stadium was resurfaced with phony turf, (per Belichek orders) and the bounces were awful.....but I think the worst was vs the Red Bulls. I swear I thought they were playing on concrete, they have the most outrageous ball reactions I've ever seen.

It's just criminal.....

kidAcbj
04-01-2008, 09:54 PM
thats why everyone needs to get soccer-specific stadiums...like the Crew :D

BAuldie
04-02-2008, 03:20 PM
Toronto FC signs Frech winger Laurent Robert.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story/?ID=233353&hubname=

DevilFisch
04-02-2008, 04:57 PM
Poor Galaxy! Carlos Ruiz is out for 4-6 weeks with a torn meniscus in his right knee. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=522034&cc=5901) Starting up top with Landon Donovan will be...Edson Buddle? Alan Gordon? Doesn't LA wish they kept Robbie Findley right about now?

Also. Poor Revs! Taylor Twellman is injured for 4-6 weeks as well! (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=521948&cc=5901)

Poor DC United! Defending CONCACAF Champion's Cup champions Pachuca CF dropped 2 on DCU's head to lead the series 2-0. (http://www.concacaf.com/view_article.asp?id=4137) The Houston Dynamo goes down to Costa Rica to play Deportivo Saprissa tonight at 10 PM EST on FSC.

Poor discipline! Abel Xavier and Ciaran O'Brian get fines, suspensions for their actions in the epic LA-Colorado opener from Saturday. (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080402&content_id=147259&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp)

*Injektilo
04-03-2008, 01:37 AM
Toronto FC signs Frech winger Laurent Robert.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story/?ID=233353&hubname=

Very surprising signing. I remember him from his PSG days.

I heard he was out of shape when he was trying to get into the Derby lineup, and that he has a bit of an attitude problem. If neither of those problems are true, and he's in good form, this may turn out to be a great signing.

DevilFisch
04-04-2008, 06:06 PM
MLS had their first Thursday Night Soccer on ESPN2 for the season.

The Chicago Fire dropped a 4 spot on New England at home. Chicago scored as early as 4 minutes in thanks to Chad Barret; Jeff Larentowicz got a somewhat harsh red card for a late tackle; and Chicago poured on the pain. Blanco was a star with an assist and a PK goal; new striker Tomasz Frankowski only played 46 minutes but picked up a brace all the same. His first and second goals for the team.

The Los Angeles Galaxy get back on the winning side of things against the expansion San Jose Earthquakes, winning 2-0. David Beckham scored his first MLS goal from the right in the 9th minute. Landon Donovan beat ex-keeper Joe Cannon with a deft lob for the second goal. You could tell that San Jose is an expansion team, and you'd have to wonder why LA didn't finish better. But 2-0 is a win and given their horrific opener, that's good for them.

Weekend #2

SATURDAY~!

Colorado Rapids @ Kansas City Wizards, 5 PM EST
Toronto FC @ DC United, 7:30 PM EST
Columbus Crew @ NY Red Bulls, 7:30 PM EST - FSC, FSE
Game of the week because I'm going to be there! Raging Bull Nation at section 115. BE THERE. BEAT THE CREW.

Real Salt Lake @ Chivas USA, 10:30 PM EST - HDNet

SUNDAY~!
FC Dallas @ Houston Dynamo, 3 PM EST - TeleFutura

kidAcbj
04-05-2008, 08:05 AM
Columbus Crew @ NY Red Bulls, 7:30 PM EST - FSC, FSE[/B]
Game of the week because I'm going to be there! Raging Bull Nation at section 115. BE THERE. BEAT THE CREW.


I'll be watching that one on TV. Cant agree with you though. GO CREW!

Dartmouth 02
04-05-2008, 09:25 PM
RBNY handles Columbus easily. ESC was in great voice. Etcheverry looked good, Angel, strangely, did not.

*Injektilo
04-06-2008, 01:17 AM
TFC sucks. Bad.

HajdukSplit
04-06-2008, 02:48 PM
excellent victory by Red Bull, didn't get to see the match though as I don't have FSC. I am optimistic about the team this summer, all we need is Altidore to get healthy and the team should make the playoffs

About Robert, he is severely lacking match fitness, I don't expect him to play anytime soon. He was immediately dropped by Derby County after a couple of matches and didn't even make the squad for most of his time with the Rams

Chimaera
04-06-2008, 06:13 PM
TFC sucks. Bad.

well... after DC came out flat in Mexico and flat in Kansas City, someone was going to get a hurting.

DevilFisch
04-06-2008, 06:29 PM
RBN (where I was and I got to see Reyna clap a bit before taking a corner in the second half)) and ESC were jumping and loud all game long. The Red Bulls showed off all the attack in the first half; switched to mostly defense and counters in the second half after the Crew GK made a jaw-dropping save on Angel's PK.

The fact that the Red Bulls protected the lead and forced the Crew to become impotent in the final third of the field was excellent considering how poor they were at it last season.

It's still too early to tell, but I was so happy the Red Bulls won.

*Injektilo
04-07-2008, 05:33 PM
With overwhelming fan support, Seattle's new franchise will be called the Sounders.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=523864&cc=5901

Seabass
04-07-2008, 05:36 PM
With overwhelming fan support, Seattle's new franchise will be called the Sounders.

http://www.harperacademic.com/coverimages/large/0064400204.jpg

Dr Love
04-07-2008, 06:39 PM
With overwhelming fan support, Seattle's new franchise will be called the Sounders.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=523864&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=523864&cc=5901)

Good. The names that ownership had given the fans to choose from sucked, it didn't seem like they wanted the team to be associated in anyway with the old Sounders, but the fans steamrolled 'em, and good for them.

DevilFisch
04-07-2008, 08:47 PM
Good. The names that ownership had given the fans to choose from sucked, it didn't seem like they wanted the team to be associated in anyway with the old Sounders, but the fans steamrolled 'em, and good for them.

I don't know. Seattle Republic sounded cool. But OK. So what happens to the USL team?

By the way, logo: http://www.soundersfc.com/uploadedImages/Home/PhotoGallery/Seattle_Sounders_FC_Annoucement/7.jpg

*Injektilo
04-07-2008, 09:01 PM
I don't know. Seattle Republic sounded cool. But OK. So what happens to the USL team?

By the way, logo: http://www.soundersfc.com/uploadedImages/Home/PhotoGallery/Seattle_Sounders_FC_Annoucement/7.jpg

I'm assuming they'll "graduate" from the USL.

undraftedstlouis
04-11-2008, 11:09 PM
I don't know. Seattle Republic sounded cool. But OK. So what happens to the USL team?

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They'll have the option of keeping some of the players from the USL team.

A minority owner (Robine Waite) is exploring keeping a team in USL in the Kitsap area (which is across the water on the west coast quite a ways from downtown). There was some recent news about him trying to build a small stadium (something about Poulsboro). I'm doubtful it'll happen or work out well anyways.

DevilFisch
04-12-2008, 10:37 PM
OK, Week 3. Red Bulls lost on the road to FC Dallas 2-0 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150201&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp). The Bulls had the better possession; but they had trouble attacking by the time the ball was in the penalty box. FCD got an early goal due to some lackadasical marking, Red Bulls push and push, FCD get a couple of counters and Kenny Cooper sealed the deal in the second half. Despite throwing the kitchen sink offensively, the Red Bulls kept looking for the perfect shot but ended up missing entirely. A shame, the Red Bulls played fairly well aside for those few defensive gaffes and the fact that they couldn't break through FCD putting 7-8 people behind the ball.

But it'll be OK. I hope Juan Pablo Angel will be back for next week to start up top with Jozy Altidore.

OTHER SCORES~! (links to MLSnet recaps)
San Jose Earthquakes 0 - Chicago Fire 1 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150083&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) The Fire spoil the return of the Quakes to San Jose. Chad Barrett is scoring goals, people. CHAD BARRETT.

Columbus Crew 4 - Chivas USA 3 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150129&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) A wild goal fest results in Columbus hanging on at home thanks to Robbie Rogers' 2nd goal late in the game. The Crew found the finishing they didn't have at NY last week. The, uh, faux-Chivas found two ejections after that Rogers goal (Francisco Mendoza, Sasha Kljestan).

New England Revolution 0 - Colorado Rapids 1 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150112&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) Wow, that's a nice road win for Colorado. Bouna Coundoul was the man as he faced 9 on net out of 17 total attempts by NE. The Revs are seriously missing Twellman and Ralston.

Kansas City Wizards 0 - Houston Dynamo 0 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150168&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) Eh.

Real Salt Lake 4 - DC United 0. (http://www.mlsnet.com//news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150174&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) RSL drop kicked DC United in the junk to the tune of 4-0. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Good job, Kyle Beckerman on the brace and good job Fabian Espinola for making that backflip after your goal.

TOMORROW~! Toronto FC @ LA Galaxy. TeleFutura viewers, enjoy the fun between two teams with, uh, holes in the lineup.

kidAcbj
04-12-2008, 11:20 PM
the crew game was unbelievable, especially the Rogers game winner


the score is deceiving too because the Crew pretty much dominated, especially in the second half. they just allowed a couple of weak goals

captain coliseum
04-13-2008, 02:15 PM
Abby Okulaja causes many odd things to happen - namely because a ridiculously horrific ref.

Abby O reffed a Red Bulls-Revs game last year that I took my brother to, his first MLS game. My brother told me after the game that it's the worst reffing he's seen in any sport; given that he's a regular watcher of the NBA, college sports, and football - that's saying a lot.

This was when Angel got a red in the closing minutes? I remember walking out of the swamp that day, it was the most pissed I've gotten after a RB game in a long time.

captain coliseum
04-13-2008, 02:18 PM
OK, Week 3. Red Bulls lost on the road to FC Dallas 2-0 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150201&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp). The Bulls had the better possession; but they had trouble attacking by the time the ball was in the penalty box. FCD got an early goal due to some lackadasical marking, Red Bulls push and push, FCD get a couple of counters and Kenny Cooper sealed the deal in the second half. Despite throwing the kitchen sink offensively, the Red Bulls kept looking for the perfect shot but ended up missing entirely. A shame, the Red Bulls played fairly well aside for those few defensive gaffes and the fact that they couldn't break through FCD putting 7-8 people behind the ball.

But it'll be OK. I hope Juan Pablo Angel will be back for next week to start up top with Jozy Altidore.

OTHER SCORES~! (links to MLSnet recaps)
San Jose Earthquakes 0 - Chicago Fire 1 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150083&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) The Fire spoil the return of the Quakes to San Jose. Chad Barrett is scoring goals, people. CHAD BARRETT.

Columbus Crew 4 - Chivas USA 3 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150129&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) A wild goal fest results in Columbus hanging on at home thanks to Robbie Rogers' 2nd goal late in the game. The Crew found the finishing they didn't have at NY last week. The, uh, faux-Chivas found two ejections after that Rogers goal (Francisco Mendoza, Sasha Kljestan).

New England Revolution 0 - Colorado Rapids 1 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150112&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) Wow, that's a nice road win for Colorado. Bouna Coundoul was the man as he faced 9 on net out of 17 total attempts by NE. The Revs are seriously missing Twellman and Ralston.

Kansas City Wizards 0 - Houston Dynamo 0 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150168&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) Eh.

Real Salt Lake 4 - DC United 0. (http://www.mlsnet.com//news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080412&content_id=150174&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) RSL drop kicked DC United in the junk to the tune of 4-0. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Good job, Kyle Beckerman on the brace and good job Fabian Espinola for making that backflip after your goal.

TOMORROW~! Toronto FC @ LA Galaxy. TeleFutura viewers, enjoy the fun between two teams with, uh, holes in the lineup.

Well there goes our unbeaten season.:laugh:

I def. thought we were at least going to score when Dallas started putting almost all 11 players behind the ball after that early goal. After that 1st minute goal, we had them in their own half for basically the entire first half.

Golden Slumbers
04-13-2008, 04:28 PM
Watching the TFC-Galaxy game, the FSN West colour guys were the worst I've ever heard. I don't think they called the actual name of a TFC player even once outside of the goals, and pretty much ignored most of the Galaxy too, except for "David" and "Landon" with whom they are clearly on a first name basis. :laugh:

As for the game, good on TFC for fighting till the end and getting the points, for only their second away win ever. The team already looked twice as good simply by waiving Colin Samuel. Look for him soon at your local Burger King.

DevilFisch
04-15-2008, 06:43 PM
San Jose Earthquakes are getting a SSS! (http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/864101.html) It'll be right by an airport and everything.

WEEK 4 MATCHUPS~!

ESPN2 Thursday Night Soccer: Columbus Crew @ DC United, 8 PM EST

Can the Crew keep rolling? Can DC save face from that 4-0 beatdown at the hands of RSL? Can the supporters sing something that you can understand on TV other than "DC UNI-TED?" Maybe, maybe, and hell no.

Saturday is alright for Crap Reffing
Real Salt Lake @ Toronto FC, 12:30 PM EST (seriously, 12:30 PM?)
New England Revolution @ NY Red Bulls, 7:30 PM HDNet
San Jose Earthquakes @ Colorado Rapids, 9:30 PM, FSC/FSE
Houston Dynamo @ LA Galaxy, 10:30 PM

Sunday is OK for Bad Refs, too
Kansas City Wizards @ Chicago Fire, 3 PM, Telefutura
FC Dallas @ Chivas USA, 8 PM - This is my game of the week as FCD has started off the season well and on the road at Chivas should be a good test for them. Too bad this isn't on national coverage; but there should be PLENTY of seats available for this one.

DCUCapsFan71
04-16-2008, 01:14 PM
Well see if the Crew can roll up into RFK and do anything. DCU is almost unbeatable at RFK. DCU has laid a stinker on the road at RSL a few times now, so thats no shock. Soehn also really messed w/ the lineup and rested some key guys for that match, and played a 3-4-3. Not sure what he was thinking on that one. DC needs to go back to the 4-4-2, and PRONTO!

Ill be at the match at RFK tomrrow evening. (DCU Season Ticket holder here.)

Vamos United!!!!!

DevilFisch
04-16-2008, 04:50 PM
Well see if the Crew can roll up into RFK and do anything. DCU is almost unbeatable at RFK. DCU has laid a stinker on the road at RSL a few times now, so thats no shock. Soehn also really messed w/ the lineup and rested some key guys for that match, and played a 3-4-3. Not sure what he was thinking on that one. DC needs to go back to the 4-4-2, and PRONTO!

A 3-4-3? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW.

When is that formation ever good?

kidAcbj
04-16-2008, 05:40 PM
Well see if the Crew can roll up into RFK and do anything. DCU is almost unbeatable at RFK. DCU has laid a stinker on the road at RSL a few times now, so thats no shock. Soehn also really messed w/ the lineup and rested some key guys for that match, and played a 3-4-3. Not sure what he was thinking on that one. DC needs to go back to the 4-4-2, and PRONTO!

Ill be at the match at RFK tomrrow evening. (DCU Season Ticket holder here.)

Vamos United!!!!!


Crew are coming off a huge win over Chivas...should be a pretty good game


Heres some classic DC United vs Crew action! McBride was a stud!

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?&brand=null&videoId=3340393&n8pe6c=2

Jiri Bicek
04-16-2008, 05:54 PM
A 3-4-3? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW.

When is that formation ever good?

In Youth soccer ;)

Titan124
04-16-2008, 09:33 PM
If we're talking about expanding, Abacoa in Jupiter would be a decent option. They have a baseball field for Cardinals/Marlins spring training that, with the exception of adult rec leagues and high school league games lays unused for the entire year.

DCUCapsFan71
04-17-2008, 10:24 AM
A 3-4-3? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW.

When is that formation ever good?

Thats what it looked like to me, and IMHO its NEVER good. You see the result. 4-nil to RSL. :rant:

TheSchwab
04-17-2008, 02:07 PM
4-3-2-1 in FIFA '08 for me all the time...

kidAcbj
04-17-2008, 08:06 PM
Crew with a HUGE win tonight over DC! 3-1 on the season now and first in the East for the moment


pretty exciting game. as a Crew fan, it got a little tense at the end

Chimaera
04-18-2008, 10:02 AM
Fire Soehn!

*Injektilo
04-19-2008, 12:30 PM
TFC's first half against RSL was probably the best I've seen them play.

The second half wasn't as good, but it looks like they should pull of the win.

Free Agents
04-19-2008, 12:40 PM
TFC's first half against RSL was probably the best I've seen them play.

The second half wasn't as good, but it looks like they should pull of the win.

Good win. They really sat back in the second half and it almost backfired, but solid game. Should've scored more than 1 though.

*Injektilo
04-19-2008, 12:57 PM
Good win. They really sat back in the second half and it almost backfired, but solid game. Should've scored more than 1 though.

I blame Ricketts for the lack of finish. The guy was a tool out there.

One Day A Lion
04-20-2008, 10:03 AM
Landon Donovan had an AMAZING goal off of a header last night against Houston.

DevilFisch
04-20-2008, 07:38 PM
Jozy Altidore scored off a magnificent effort to put the Red Bulls up 1-0. Then they recieved a gift early in the second half when Kevin Goldwaithe was kicked in the groin by Mauricio Castro, leading to a red card for Mr. Castro. 10 men with the lead? No problem, right?

Well, no. Chris Leitch fouls a Rev outside of the box, Jeff Larentowicz powers a low shot through the wall for the equalizer. Red Bulls try and try and try but they can't apply the finish - and in many cases had trouble passing, especially when Magee came in for Reyna. So the Red Bulls dropped 2 pts. at Giants Stadium. Boo.

At least Sec. 115 and 101 were loud. I know 115 was loud...I was there screaming and clapping my head off. I'm amazed I still have a voice still today.

Free Agents
04-20-2008, 08:09 PM
I blame Ricketts for the lack of finish. The guy was a tool out there.

He was definetely the weak link in the midfield. But overall, they were solid. Ricketts needs to learn to pass the ball. So many opportunities wasted. But a win's a win, can't complain.

Jiri Bicek
04-21-2008, 10:26 AM
Jozy Altidore scored off a magnificent effort to put the Red Bulls up 1-0. Then they recieved a gift early in the second half when Kevin Goldwaithe was kicked in the groin by Mauricio Castro, leading to a red card for Mr. Castro. 10 men with the lead? No problem, right?

Well, no. Chris Leitch fouls a Rev outside of the box, Jeff Larentowicz powers a low shot through the wall for the equalizer. Red Bulls try and try and try but they can't apply the finish - and in many cases had trouble passing, especially when Magee came in for Reyna. So the Red Bulls dropped 2 pts. at Giants Stadium. Boo.

At least Sec. 115 and 101 were loud. I know 115 was loud...I was there screaming and clapping my head off. I'm amazed I still have a voice still today.

OT: Are you going to the USA vs. Argentina friendly @ Giants Stadium?

Chimaera
04-21-2008, 12:24 PM
OT: Are you going to the USA vs. Argentina friendly @ Giants Stadium?

If Argentina brings a full roster and not their JV team, I might make the drive. Would be interesting to see.

Seabass
04-21-2008, 01:18 PM
OT: Are you going to the USA vs. Argentina friendly @ Giants Stadium?
I think I'm going to take my little brother to see that as well.

Amazing that I'll have seen the US against Brazil and Argentina within a year of each other.

DisgruntledHawkFan
04-21-2008, 02:04 PM
Chad Barrett sucks. With Rolfe injured, the fact that he's one of our top two striker options says a lot about what we've got upfront. A ten year old doesn't shank that sitter. Christ.

DevilFisch
04-21-2008, 05:23 PM
Chad Barrett sucks. This is true.

OT: Are you going to the USA vs. Argentina friendly @ Giants Stadium?

Yes. I'll be with some of the other RBN guys. We won't be in 115, I think we'll be in the opposite corner?

TheSchwab
04-24-2008, 05:25 PM
Watching MON/PHI I think the MLS should expand to Montreal.

One Day A Lion
04-24-2008, 09:26 PM
Watching MON/PHI I think the MLS should expand to Montreal.

Unlike MLB, that might actually get somewhere.

Although I know for a fact they're expanding to Philadelphia and Seattle soon and then St. Louis is a front-runner for the next expansion. Then, there are rumors of a second club in New York. Then if Montreal was chosen it would have to compete with Atlanta, Detroit, Portland, and Miami among others.

BAuldie
04-24-2008, 09:36 PM
Unlike MLB, that might actually get somewhere.

Although I know for a fact they're expanding to Philadelphia and Seattle soon and then St. Louis is a front-runner for the next expansion. Then, there are rumors of a second club in New York. Then if Montreal was chosen it would have to compete with Atlanta, Detroit, Portland, and Miami among others.

Its got money behind it.. the habs owner has expressed interest.

DevilFisch
04-26-2008, 12:54 PM
WEEK 5!

Thursday night Soccer RESULT:

New England Revolution 1, FC Dallas 0 (http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080424&content_id=152829&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp) Revs midfielder and diving, whiny wuss-bag Khano Smith scores the game's only goal - one that Hoops GK Dario Sala probably should have gotten.

SATURDAY:

Kansas City Wizards @ Toronto FC, 3:30 PM EST
Houston Dynamo @ Columbus Crew, 7:30 PM EST
Real Salt Lake @ DC United, 7:30 PM EST
Colorado Rapids @ Chicago Fire, 8:30 PM EST HDNet

GAME OF THE WEEK: Chivas USA @ LA Galaxy, 10:30 PM EST, FSC
The LA Derby! Two teams! One stadium! One team is more talented, more balanced, and is a play thing of Jorge Vergara! The other is not as talented, but they have 2 MLS Cups, were the original tenants of the HDC, and has David Beckham. This should be fun.

SUNDAY:
San Jose Earthquakes @ NY Red Bulls, 3 PM EST, TeleFutura. I'll be in 115 with RBN. But my name isn't Josh.

*Injektilo
04-26-2008, 02:58 PM
Haha... Love the KC's goalie's face when Guevara scored.

SirKillalot
04-26-2008, 04:55 PM
If someone wants to know. Troy Perkins has played 4 games for Vålerenga this season. Done som half-mistakes(Trips in the woods as we call it). Some communication-problems perhaps the problem for that. A bit too offensive for a goalkeeper. Might cause him problems as the season is progressing.

DevilFisch
04-26-2008, 09:55 PM
This SuperClasico is featuring some absolutely hilarious defensive blunders.

Note to TFC Fans: When Amado Guevara is feeling good and wants to play,you'll like him. Otherwise, you'd wish he was back sulking in Honduras. Just letting you all know.

ALAN GORDON UPDATE: Alan Gordon has accomplished something! Really!

Chimaera
04-26-2008, 10:34 PM
If someone wants to know. Troy Perkins has played 4 games for Vålerenga this season. Done som half-mistakes(Trips in the woods as we call it). Some communication-problems perhaps the problem for that. A bit too offensive for a goalkeeper. Might cause him problems as the season is progressing.

that was his United problem. Lack of communication with his defense. Makes a few flubs here or there.

kidAcbj
04-26-2008, 11:56 PM
Crew top Dynamo, improve to 4-1 and notch Sigi's 100th MLS win


currently best in the league :D

*Injektilo
04-27-2008, 01:59 AM
Note to TFC Fans: When Amado Guevara is feeling good and wants to play,you'll like him. Otherwise, you'd wish he was back sulking in Honduras. Just letting you all know.

TFC fans are very well aware of the baggage he brings. In fact, many of them, me included, weren't too happy about the signing for those exact reasons (same goes with Robert). But hey, whatever good he can do to get this team to the playoffs, I'll take it.

Chimaera
04-27-2008, 05:52 AM
Crew top Dynamo, improve to 4-1 and notch Sigi's 100th MLS win


currently best in the league :D

Enjoy that for a bit.


DC won last night. Quaranta's doing well so far. In games he plays, he still has a decent bit of talent. Jamie Moreno's still old as dirt, but he can still get it done.

Maybe the team is finally waking up a bit. 2-3 now.

chaosrevolver
04-27-2008, 09:20 AM
TFC fans are very well aware of the baggage he brings. In fact, many of them, me included, weren't too happy about the signing for those exact reasons (same goes with Robert). But hey, whatever good he can do to get this team to the playoffs, I'll take it.Agreed. Im fine with it, as they both look great so far. This team looks pretty darn good right now.

SirKillalot
04-27-2008, 10:46 AM
that was his United problem. Lack of communication with his defense. Makes a few flubs here or there.


As long as he stays in the net, he's a good keeper, or else:

Things might go wrong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2_VTzIAi_k)

DevilFisch
04-27-2008, 09:18 PM
Perkins is the HARDEST GOALKEEPER IN MLS HISTORY.

Heh.

Red Bulls win a dreary game. Imagine, you actually try finishing an attack and things actually happen. Wish the Red Bulls didn't wait until the 75th or so to start doing that. Still, a win is a win. 2-0 over San Jose.

Chimaera
04-28-2008, 09:54 AM
Perkins is the HARDEST GOALKEEPER IN MLS HISTORY.

Heh.

Red Bulls win a dreary game. Imagine, you actually try finishing an attack and things actually happen. Wish the Red Bulls didn't wait until the 75th or so to start doing that. Still, a win is a win. 2-0 over San Jose.


attendance was dreadful from what I'm reading. I know there was a Ranger game going on, but man. 9 grand?

Yikes. They need a new stadium.

Jiri Bicek
04-28-2008, 10:00 AM
attendance was dreadful from what I'm reading. I know there was a Ranger game going on, but man. 9 grand?

Yikes. They need a new stadium.

No one wants to head to that dump.. It takes you 20 minutes just to park your car.. There's construction going on all around you.. It's a complete mess.. Not to mention the stadium is awful for a soccer atmosphere

A change or arena and addition of mass transit with help the attendance big time.. Allow easier transit for families and the fans in NY to come over

kidAcbj
04-28-2008, 11:53 AM
Week 5 Power Rankings

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/powerranking?league=USA.1&season=2008&week=5&cc=5901

oh its a beautiful thing :D

chaosrevolver
04-28-2008, 01:49 PM
6th:D

Very pleased. If we can keep it up we could compete!

GO TFC!!!!!!!!!!!!:yo::yo:

kidAcbj
04-28-2008, 02:22 PM
6th:D

Very pleased. If we can keep it up we could compete!

GO TFC!!!!!!!!!!!!:yo::yo:

yea, im quite surprised by how they've turned it around so far


with such passionate fans itd be cool to see them actually be successful this season (just not tooo successful)

DevilFisch
04-28-2008, 08:20 PM
attendance was dreadful from what I'm reading. I know there was a Ranger game going on, but man. 9 grand?

Yikes. They need a new stadium.

They're building one in Harrison NJ. Right by the PATH station. Red Bull Park should be done in 2009.

chaosrevolver
04-28-2008, 08:42 PM
yea, im quite surprised by how they've turned it around so far


with such passionate fans itd be cool to see them actually be successful this season (just not tooo successful)We will see;)

Jiri Bicek
04-28-2008, 10:56 PM
They're building one in Harrison NJ. Right by the PATH station. Red Bull Park should be done in 2009.

What do you think of the new stadium vs. a potential 2nd franchise in NY?

Will it hurt the fan base that RBNY currently have in NY or will they have enough fans and interest to generate a rivalry?

One Day A Lion
04-29-2008, 09:27 AM
Houston :(

DevilFisch
04-29-2008, 08:46 PM
What do you think of the new stadium vs. a potential 2nd franchise in NY?

Will it hurt the fan base that RBNY currently have in NY or will they have enough fans and interest to generate a rivalry?

I don't think a second franchise in NY is happening any time in the near future. So it's a really moot point.


THURSDAY NIGHT: NY Red Bulls come to Toronto FC on ESPN2 at 7 PM.

One Day A Lion
04-29-2008, 08:52 PM
Its got money behind it.. the habs owner has expressed interest.

Well then I hope they get a team.

Quebec is a unique place in North America so if Montreal had an MLS team it would bring some uniqueness to the league- MLS has too much of the same, IMO. I would love to see a loyal fanbase that's different from what can be found everywhere else.

But yeah, that's my problem with MLS, all the teams just seem too same to me. It's all because they aren't franchised.

DevilFisch
05-01-2008, 06:50 PM
Well then I hope they get a team.

Quebec is a unique place in North America so if Montreal had an MLS team it would bring some uniqueness to the league- MLS has too much of the same, IMO. I would love to see a loyal fanbase that's different from what can be found everywhere else.

But yeah, that's my problem with MLS, all the teams just seem too same to me. It's all because they aren't franchised.

Uh, what? All the MLS teams are franchises - is that what you meant? And what is too much the same?

Dr Love
05-01-2008, 08:16 PM
Well then I hope they get a team.

16 teams is enough for now. The league needs to increase it's talent level, not it's teams.

Quebec is a unique place in North America so if Montreal had an MLS team it would bring some uniqueness to the league- MLS has too much of the same, IMO. I would love to see a loyal fanbase that's different from what can be found everywhere else.

But yeah, that's my problem with MLS, all the teams just seem too same to me. It's all because they aren't franchised.

I'm with DevilFisch on t