Clarke and Tallackson called up

http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=348366

Forwards Noah Clarke and Barry Tallackson have been recalled from Lowell under emergency conditions, it has been announced. The moves come after Jay Pandolfo and Karel Rachunek were placed on injured reserve, retroactively.

Damn, Lowell is screwed...

Who the **** cares about Lowell!? :)

New Jersey is the team we want to succeed! Good te hear that the Lou and Sutter finally decided to call up some of the younger guys, bu I was hoping to see Vrana called up.

I don't understand why they called up two forwards. It must mean that Patty is going to be out for little longer than we think.

I was surprsied that Vrana wasn't called up either.

Good to see some young blood coming in for a game.

I feel bad for Grant Marshall though. He's gotta be taking it hard, not being being called up. Shame.

The same for Bergfors too. He's one of only a handfull of guys with a above +/- stat on the team.

Actually, little Gionta would have been an interesting call-up.

It would have been cool to see what he could do on this level. Especially if he was on the same line with Brian.

No Vrana? :shakehead

I'd rather see him get some third line time or something.

I also wanted to see Bergfors or Vrana instead of Clarke and Tallackson...that Tallackson guy does not really belong on the big club imo

My guess is that these guys ride the pine or don't even dress. Better to let Vrana and Bergfors get quality minutes in the "A" rather than ride the pine in the bigs.

Tallackson is a big guy, it would be nice to see him actually do something with this opportunity.

I also wanted to see Bergfors or Vrana instead of Clarke and Tallackson...that Tallackson guy does not really belong on the big club imo

I don't mind Clarke so much...but Tallackson instead of Vrana? C'mon. I mean in theory I can understand it, but I'd much rather see Vrana getting a taste of the big league.

Poor Vrana, this is what? His 3rd for 4th year on the farm and a FA from outside the organization gets the call over him?


And his could be Tallackson's final chance to show he can play at this level - at least with us.

Why Tallackson? Hasn't he prooved he sucks enough time already?

Poor Vrana, this is what? His 3rd for 4th year on the farm and a FA from outside the organization gets the call over him?


And his could be Tallackson's final chance to show he can play at this level - at least with us.

I don't think Tallackson has what it takes...he's shown almost no sign of being capable of even being a 4th liner in the NHL. But that's just my opinion. Plus I've only seen him for a handful of games up here and none between the farm clubs. But from what I've seen, he's nothing special.

Plus look at it this way, Clarkson skipped right over him and has shown plenty of signs of being a very capable core guy willing to play a very dynamic game.

I don't even know I could classify the type of player Tallackson would be in the NHL based on his play so far.

Clarke has played some in the NHL and he is a leader for Lowell, plus he has had a decent year, just behind Vrana. Tallackson is putting together a much better year, mainly because he has played on a line with Clarke and Vrana. This is sort of his make or break year so hopefully he plays well. I expected Vrana to be the first call up, but perhaps they want him to continue doing well in the AHL to keep his confidence up.

I like the Clarke call up, but Tallackson sucks. He's way too inconsistent and only shows up when he wants. I couldn't even tolerate that from Gomez and Tallackson doesn't have a tenth of Gomez's skill.

Clarke and Tallackson were possibly the only really healthy forwards on the ice for the L-Devils last night. Gionta was a dinged-up scratch, Vrána took a pounding in the corners during the game, and nobody else is close to being ready for the call. Tough luck for Vrána.

As for who cares about the L-Devils, obviously nobody does. Players don't develop properly when they forget how to win. But that short-sighted foolishness will come home to roost. I hope it comes soon, so Lou starts thinking about the future instead of the past.

Hopefully neither play.

Tallackson's a stiff, I wish I would've seen Vrana get a shot. Plus, brining up 2 wingers when we have a hoole at Center doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

about a week ago i was going to make a thread asking if we should call up clarke but i wasnt sure if anybody would think its a good idea.

tallackson better not be mr softy this time around.

so jay and karel were placed on IR retroactively so when can they come back? ho many games? cause jay has missed about 15 or so right

about a week ago i was going to make a thread asking if we should call up clarke but i wasnt sure if anybody would think its a good idea.

tallackson better not be mr softy this time around.

so jay and karel were placed on IR retroactively so when can they come back? ho many games? cause jay has missed about 15 or so right

Pretty sure with IR you have to miss a minimum of 15 games (or 14) before you can be activated again. Or a full-two weeks, I dunno...I remember it happened with Gio last season where, although he was ready, he had to miss like 2-3 more games to fulfill the IR requirements. Well, that's how I remember it at least.

I think at least one of these guys will play tomo.... On the 4th line Sutter does not like Rupp he will be out. Plus I find it interesting that they called up and Left and Right winger. If Elias can play tomo i think u see a 4th like of Clarke-Pelley-Tallackson..... If not then Who knows but they go with 7 D-man if Elias is out.

I dont kno about Tallackson last year a couple time he played well but most of the time he skated around doing nothing. It also seemed like he had a problem staying on his skates to.

Clarke is have a good year in Lowell and has played before in the NHL. I could see him playing well enough to maybe stick around longer then we think.

I also believe that Vrana and Bergfors got hosed on this one. At least one of them should have been up I think.

I thought that it was a min of 10 games or 2
weeks. But I could be completely wrong

I think at least one of these guys will play tomo.... On the 4th line Sutter does not like Rupp he will be out. Plus I find it interesting that they called up and Left and Right winger. If Elias can play tomo i think u see a 4th like of Clarke-Pelley-Tallackson..... If not then Who knows but they go with 7 D-man if Elias is out.

I dont kno about Tallackson last year a couple time he played well but most of the time he skated around doing nothing. It also seemed like he had a problem staying on his skates to.

Clarke is have a good year in Lowell and has played before in the NHL. I could see him playing well enough to maybe stick around longer then we think.

I also believe that Vrana and Bergfors got hosed on this one. At least one of them should have been up I think.

Should've called up Bergfors and Vrana.......

Parise-Vrana-Gionta
Elias-Zajac-Bergfors
Brylin-Madden-Langenbrunner
Asham-Pelley-Clarkson

That'd be fun to see how the youngin's fit in in the top two.

What else does Vrana have to do? Honestly.

I'm not a huge fan of either callup.

Should've called up Bergfors and Vrana.......

Parise-Vrana-Gionta
Elias-Zajac-Bergfors
Brylin-Madden-Langenbrunner
Asham-Pelley-Clarkson

That'd be fun to see how the youngin's fit in in the top two.

If Bergfors was called up he'd be on the 4th line, and did you suddenly forget that Zubrus was on the team?

What else does Vrana have to do? Honestly.

I'm not a huge fan of either callup.

From the callups to the development, it seems like the Devils are doing an absolutely deplorable job with their minor league system. It's an embarrassment to be honest...

i think like ronnie said, this is more of a try out for these guys, especially tallackson. it wouldnt really make any sense to bring up vrana because this is probably only going to be a couple of games and vrana is doing well in lowell so bringing him up might have thrown off his confidence if he didnt do well in new jersey

Should've called up Bergfors and Vrana.......

Bergfors has absolutely sucked since he got hurt with the big club at the beginning of the season: 3-6-9 in 22 games in the AHL - and I heard he had recently re-injured his shoulder.

Fact is the NJ Devils are having trouble scoring, so who do you call up? The top two Lowell goal scorers, that's who: Tallackson and Clarke. That's why those two and not Vrana. Gionta could have been a call-up also but I think he's a bit hurt.

Pretty sure with IR you have to miss a minimum of 15 games (or 14) before you can be activated again. Or a full-two weeks, I dunno...I remember it happened with Gio last season where, although he was ready, he had to miss like 2-3 more games to fulfill the IR requirements. Well, that's how I remember it at least.

It's 10 games or 24 days.

But IR can be applied retroactively to when the player was first out. So Pandolfo has already met the requirement.

And those wanting Vrana and Bergfors really are missing the point. Do you want those guys getting fourth line minutes? I don't. Clarke and Tallackson will, imo, be more effective in their roles on the big club.

If Bergfors was called up he'd be on the 4th line, and did you suddenly forget that Zubrus was on the team?
Zubrus-Madden-Langenbrunner

I like trying to see if young guys can come and play on the top two lines and make an impact. If they can produce points, then all 4 lines have a semblance of offense attached to it.

I can't edit posts. I'm on double secret probation.

Anyways

Zubrus-Madden-Langenbrunner

I like trying to see if young guys can come and play on the top two lines and make an impact. If they can produce points, then all 4 lines have a semblance of offense attached to it.

That's not an awful idea but I'd rather not shuffle all our lines around for the purpose of accommodating Bergfors and Vrana. This will probably be for 4-5 games, so I don't see the point of disrupting Vrana's confidence and production.

i understand clarke getting called up

though, i don't know why tallackson gets one again.. this guy has had his chances and hasn't done ****..

either, sutter has gotten sick of asham or he chooses not to ice 7 d-men a game (which has worked)

i understand clarke getting called up

though, i don't know why tallackson gets one again.. this guy has had his chances and hasn't done ****..

either, sutter has gotten sick of asham or he chooses not to ice 7 d-men a game (which has worked)

My theory is that they're trying to see if the staff that we have now can motivate a guy like Tallackson. He has the ability, we've seen it in his goal against the Sens, it was beautiful, he has the talent, it's just a matter of putting it all together.

I think this is Barry's last shot at impressing the coaching staff. Of which, should decide his future with the team.

Like someone said earlier, they are the leading scorers in Lowell (not saying a whole lot there) & we do need some scoring.

I can't edit posts. I'm on double secret probation.

Anyways

Zubrus-Madden-Langenbrunner

I like trying to see if young guys can come and play on the top two lines and make an impact. If they can produce points, then all 4 lines have a semblance of offense attached to it.

In a perfect world these would be my lines right now (assuming that Elias is back):

Elias-Vrana-Gionta
Parise-Madden-Langs
Zubrus-Zajac-Clarkson
Asham-Brylin-Bergfors

I'm not conviced that Bergfors can ever produce at an NHL level, but I'd like to see him get a look. I can't see him in a top 9 role, but he could get some PP time considering we are less than stellar in that department.

My theory is that they're trying to see if the staff that we have now can motivate a guy like Tallackson. He has the ability, we've seen it in his goal against the Sens, it was beautiful, he has the talent, it's just a matter of putting it all together.
yeah, but he shouldn't be called upon to provide offense

langenbrunner, gionta and even clarkson has chipped in a bit

asham is there for energy on the 4th line

zubrus-elias-gio
parise-zajac-langs
brylin-madden-clarkson
clarke-pelley-asham
tallackson

zubrus-elias-gio
parise-zajac-langs
brylin-madden-clarkson
clarke-pelley-asham
tallackson

I think Elias will be out tomorrow. Hence, IMO the lines would be:

clarke-zubrus-gio
parise-zajac-langs
brylin-madden-clarkson
tallackson-pelley-asham

While I'm disappointed that Vrana was not called up, you guys have to admit that both Clarke and Tallackson are better choices than Mike Rupp. People have been calling for Mike Rupp to be scratched or waived all season. Well, here you go.

Sounds like both Patty and Asham are out tomorrow. Sutter went with these lines today:

Parise-Madden-Gionta
Zubrus-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Clarke-Brylin-Clarkson
Rupp-Pelley-Tallackson

Madden is our #1 centerman now....:help:

Zajac is useless, he should be our 4:th line centerman IMO.

Man are we in some serious need of some help in the middle.

The injury bug the Devils ran into this year sucks...this team just hasn't been healthy at all. It's really frustrating, because we haven't been able to see what a complete lineup can do.

We need all points we can get now, with all of our rivals winning all the time. The Devils will have to come together and play some solid games in the near future. Now we'll see what they're made of.

I think Elias will be out tomorrow. Hence, IMO the lines would be:

clarke-zubrus-gio
parise-zajac-langs
brylin-madden-clarkson
tallackson-pelley-asham
isn't tallackson a RW?

Sounds like both Patty and Asham are out tomorrow. Sutter went with these lines today:

Parise-Madden-Gionta
Zubrus-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Clarke-Brylin-Clarkson
Rupp-Pelley-Tallackson

Madden is our #1 centerman now....:help:

Zajac is useless, he should be our 4:th line centerman IMO.

Man are we in some serious need of some help in the middle.

The injury bug the Devils ran into this year sucks...this team just hasn't been healthy at all. It's really frustrating, because we haven't been able to see what a complete lineup can do.

We need all points we can get now, with all of our rivals winning all the time. The Devils will have to come together and play some solid games in the near future. Now we'll see what they're made of.

Wow, those are two BRUTAL 3rd and 4th lines. What can you expect though? When you don't call up Vrana, your Center situation is going to be what it is. And I'm going to this game tomorrow.:help:

That's not an awful idea but I'd rather not shuffle all our lines around for the purpose of accommodating Bergfors and Vrana. This will probably be for 4-5 games, so I don't see the point of disrupting Vrana's confidence and production.

so its more of a confidence booster for Vrana to have two less deserving players called up?

both Tallackson and Vrana are RFA's next year, Tallackson had his shots why has Vrana been consistently shafted?

people (not necessarily you) were saying the exact same nonsense about Pelley and Clarkson playing 4th line minutes, i dont see why everyone has this notion that all young players called up need top six minutes.

i absolutely hate this decision once again Devils reward another teams retred and a player who for some reason Lou seems to love and gives unlimited opportunities to.

Wow, those are two BRUTAL 3rd and 4th lines. What can you expect though? When you don't call up Vrana, your Center situation is going to be what it is. And I'm going to this game tomorrow.:help:

As if Vrana would immediately be effective? Give it a rest, there's nothing wrong with calling up Clarke and Tallackson.

so its more of a confidence booster for Vrana to have two less deserving players called up?

both Tallackson and Vrana are RFA's next year, Tallackson had his shots why has Vrana been consistently shafted?

people (not necessarily you) were saying the exact same nonsense about Pelley and Clarkson playing 4th line minutes, i dont see why everyone has this notion that all young players called up need top six minutes.

i absolutely hate this decision once again Devils reward another teams retred and a player who for some reason Lou seems to love and gives unlimited opportunities to.


Vrana's play was very inconsistent and not all that good for his first two pro seasons. So he hasn't been "consistently shafted". Additionally, if Sutter wants a fourth liner, the big bodied Tallackson is a more effective choice than the smaller Vrana. I think Clarke will be on a scoring line.

And there are two sides to this argument. You could say calling him up would boost his confidence. But if he's called up, relegated to fourth line duty and proves to be ineffective, it could hurt his confidence. There's no definite answer but Vrana has been on a tear in the AHL and I wouldn't mess with it.

I'm pretty sure no one said this about Pelley (especially) and Clarkson. They both play a completely different game from Vrana. Pelley is a defensive forward who is physical, while Clarkson is pest who has a nose for the net. These guys should be playing a bottom six role. Vrana is a speedy PPG player in the AHL and should be getting top six minutes to boost his confidence and continue his development. This isn't to say I would be upset with Vrana being recalled, but it's ridiculous to suggest the Devils made some egregious error with these moves.

In addition, those saying Tallackson has shown nothing in his call-ups aren't correct. He played well in his 10 game call-up in 05-06, scoring a very nice goal that featured a nice power move around Chris Phillips, one of the better defensemen in the league. He was pretty bad in his first two game call-up last season, but looked pretty decent when he was recalled for one game later in the year. I'm not a big Barry fan, since he should be more physical for his size and bring more consistent effort. However, he's 6'5" with slick hands and skating ability. He's having his best professional season on an offensively inept team, and power forwards take longer to develop, so I'm not against giving up him another shot. He's only played in 13 NHL games.

Saw them both play in Lowell a few times this season. I've seen more of Tallackson because of last season. I think Tallackson is a pretty good player; easily one of the best players down in Lowell. Clarke has good stats down there too but I haven't seen much of him.

Zajac is useless, he should be our 4:th line centerman IMO.

Who'd be in favor of putting together a package of Zajac, Tallackson & Greene & try to get someone decent? Hell, I'd even throw Bergfors into that trade too.

Honestly, with the Kings sucking ass again...what would it take to get Anze Kopitar?

Who'd be in favor of putting together a package of Zajac, Tallackson & Greene & try to get someone decent? Hell, I'd even throw Bergfors into that trade too.

Honestly, with the Kings sucking ass again...what would it take to get Anze Kopitar?
Trade Zajac....why the hell would you trade a 22 year old centerman who was coming off 40 point in his rookie season and currently is having a sophmore slump. His value is pretty low even if you wanted to trade him.

Who'd be in favor of putting together a package of Zajac, Tallackson & Greene & try to get someone decent? Hell, I'd even throw Bergfors into that trade too.

Honestly, with the Kings sucking ass again...what would it take to get Anze Kopitar?

Since Kopitar has nothing to do with Kings sucking, it would take quite a bit. He's pretty much untouchable.

I'm not in favor of trading Zajac. Amazing how people need instant gratification with players. If a guy has a bit of sophomore slump he needs to be dealt immediately. Zajac has been solid in the defensive zone, even he's been a bit snake-bitten.

I hate the idea of dealing Greene, too. His league-wide value is low, but at $600k he's a bargain for his defensive game and potential offensive output.

By next weekend we could be in the basement of the Atlantic Division its so close. :help:

Gonna be a rough couple of games. :(

Who'd be in favor of putting together a package of Zajac, Tallackson & Greene & try to get someone decent? Hell, I'd even throw Bergfors into that trade too.

Honestly, with the Kings sucking ass again...what would it take to get Anze Kopitar?

the Kings would not want anything from our roster that doesnt start with Parise when it comes to Kopitar.

And there are two sides to this argument. You could say calling him up would boost his confidence. But if he's called up, relegated to fourth line duty and proves to be ineffective, it could hurt his confidence. There's no definite answer but Vrana has been on a tear in the AHL and I wouldn't mess with it.

I'm pretty sure no one said this about Pelley (especially) and Clarkson. They both play a completely different game from Vrana. Pelley is a defensive forward who is physical, while Clarkson is pest who has a nose for the net. These guys should be playing a bottom six role. Vrana is a speedy PPG player in the AHL and should be getting top six minutes to boost his confidence and continue his development. This isn't to say I would be upset with Vrana being recalled, but it's ridiculous to suggest the Devils made some egregious error with these moves.

In addition, those saying Tallackson has shown nothing in his call-ups aren't correct. He played well in his 10 game call-up in 05-06, scoring a very nice goal that featured a nice power move around Chris Phillips, one of the better defensemen in the league. He was pretty bad in his first two game call-up last season, but looked pretty decent when he was recalled for one game later in the year. I'm not a big Barry fan, since he should be more physical for his size and bring more consistent effort. However, he's 6'5" with slick hands and skating ability. He's having his best professional season on an offensively inept team, and power forwards take longer to develop, so I'm not against giving up him another shot. He's only played in 13 NHL games.

point 1: I think if you ask any player including the aforementioned Pelley and Clarkson and said "hey after spending a couple years on a crappy minor league team making peanuts, do you want to stay there and play more minutes, or play in the NHL which is probably your dream for more money but less minutes until you earn more time?"

point 2: without looking back at previous posters history i can guarantee people did say this about Clarkson especially when he was sent back down last year, in fact this offseason i am also positive that some people had Clarkson pegged with top six minutes when people were guessing line combos.

point 3: so your whole argument (regarding Tallackson's call-up) is based on the guy scoring one goal two years ago?!? in that case why not just get Pihlman back from Finland and play him because he put up the same numbers as Barry. Barry has looked like an absolutely unmotivated stiff out there and i wouldnt call one shining moment two years ago a good counter argument.

By next weekend we could be in the basement of the Atlantic Division its so close. :help:

Or they could have an even larger lead in the division.

Yes, it's entirely possible that the Devils can win hockey games. Crazy, I know.

Or they could have an even larger lead in the division.

Yes, it's entirely possible that the Devils can win hockey games. Crazy, I know.
not if they keep messing with the chemistry of the team

not if they keep messing with the chemistry of the team

How is calling up two farm players to replace two slots left open due to injuries messing with chemistry?

The team just went 8-4-1 in December. They currently lead the division. We're past the "getting to know each other" part of the season. I think it's entirely possible the Devils can win some hockey games. But apparently, that's just me.

How is calling up two farm players to replace two slots left open due to injuries messing with chemistry?

The team just went 8-4-1 in December. They currently lead the division. We're past the "getting to know each other" part of the season. I think it's entirely possible the Devils can win some hockey games. But apparently, that's just me.
well, we'd assume they're gonna play otherwise they wouldn't have been called up

and you're right, the team just had a good december and were doing well as currently constructed.. wasn't there much of a need to call up anyone

Who'd be in favor of putting together a package of Zajac, Tallackson & Greene & try to get someone decent? Hell, I'd even throw Bergfors into that trade too.

Honestly, with the Kings sucking ass again...what would it take to get Anze Kopitar?

Ahh, the Devils Repairman is back with some more interesting posts.

Kopitar? :biglaugh:

what kind of player is Clarke?

I think Elias will be out tomorrow. Hence, IMO the lines would be:

clarke-zubrus-gio
parise-zajac-langs
brylin-madden-clarkson
tallackson-pelley-asham

YIKES that is an inexperienced line up

I think Elias will be out tomorrow. Hence, IMO the lines would be:

clarke-zubrus-gio
parise-zajac-langs
brylin-madden-clarkson
tallackson-pelley-asham

according to gulliti asham is doubtful tomorrow night w/ the flu and patty is almost definetly out. he said that these were the lines sutter had today in practice and he has not decided whether he will dress 11 or 12 forwards:

Parise-Madden-Gionta; Zubrus-Zajac-Langenbrunner; Clarke-Brylin-Clarkson; Rupp-Pelley-Tallackson

So, I'm just signing on and reading this now. What the hell happened to Rachuneck? I know Elias and Pando have been out; but now Rachuneck? This is going to be a hard stretch to go through.

Don't think I remember much about the two guys they called up. Should be interesting.

i feel so bad for marty, he is going to have to stand on his head even more (if tahts possible or makes any sense)

this is just bad news any way you look at it. :(

I want the Mandolfo back... :cry:

tallackson......wth. so what, hes gonna slot with an already better but non scoring player in zajac and help that line NOT score any better? ive seen the numbers vrana has posted in lowell and he seems like the better option to inject scoring ability in pattys absence. i dont get the whole tallackson thing with lou. i just didnt see it. why not give dagenais a call and see what hes up to while were at it. no vrana?.....boo hiss.


edit-in my contempt, i realized barry most likely wont see that line, but with all the shuffling...i wouldnt doubt anything. still.....i dont see how tallackson brings something that isnt already on the team roster(ie asham, pelley, clarkson)

Still half a season to go, a rough stretch won't kill us.

point 1: I think if you ask any player including the aforementioned Pelley and Clarkson and said "hey after spending a couple years on a crappy minor league team making peanuts, do you want to stay there and play more minutes, or play in the NHL which is probably your dream for more money but less minutes until you earn more time?"

point 2: without looking back at previous posters history i can guarantee people did say this about Clarkson especially when he was sent back down last year, in fact this offseason i am also positive that some people had Clarkson pegged with top six minutes when people were guessing line combos.

point 3: so your whole argument (regarding Tallackson's call-up) is based on the guy scoring one goal two years ago?!? in that case why not just get Pihlman back from Finland and play him because he put up the same numbers as Barry. Barry has looked like an absolutely unmotivated stiff out there and i wouldnt call one shining moment two years ago a good counter argument.

What does your point about Clarkson and Pelley have to do with the argument? Obviously it's every players dream to play in the NHL and I'm sure Vrana would be elated if he were called up. However, after two seasons of up and down play, I think it would be best for Vrana to get a full PPG season under his belt before taking on the NHL. He's riding high in the AHL right now and that should continue.

People had Clarkson pegged for top six minutes, yes, but no one was claiming that he needed to be on a scoring line to play in the NHL. I think it was generally accepted that Clarkson was versatile enough to fit in on any line. Many people also expected him to fit well with Madden, and that's happened. If he didn't fit in the top six, people still expected him to grab a bottom six role.

Tallackson did not look like a stiff in his 05-06, not at all. He played well. And don't compare Tallackson to Pihlman, it's not really close. Pihlman's goal came off a lucky deflection in front while Barry showed what his size, skating, and puck-handling was capable of with goal against Ottawa. Overall he played well in his call-up that season. When people cite their disdain for Tallackson, they're mostly thinking back to his awful two game call-up in the middle of last season. Currently, he's on pace for 30 goals at the AHL level.

Barry is only as good as the players he's on a line with. Last season, him Minard and Papineau were totally on fire, scoring almost every game, as soon as one went down, they all did. Hes clicky, some players can play with anyone and make them as great as they are, Barry obviously is not one of them, he needs someone great to guide him. He does have alot of natural skill, and hes very creative with the puck, but you dont see any of that in games.... why, i still havent figured that out. Barry's biggest problem is his skating, for his size he skates all wrong. If he gets to play, watch how horrible it is, and how winded he gets in such a lil time, if he learned how to skate correctly, his shifts would be longer, his stamina would be higher and he would be a much more effective player. Although the last couple games he has picked up his checking, its far less than what it should be for a man his size! It doesn't help that hes lost alot of weight, and has not picked up any in muscle! I think they tried to fix his lack of speed by having him drop weight, instead of addressing his lack of correct skating ability!

Clarke is clarke, just a career ahler that gets the occasional call up. He reminds me of a Keith Aucion, for any of you that know of him. Hes a very suitable filler for a short term injury.

Dont expect much of anything from these two though, with only 12 goals in the AHL, I really dont see them making any kinda jaw dropping statement in any game(s) they play in. Take it as it is, just fillers for the roster.

What I wanna know is who Lowell intends to call up for their games, with their "top (as slightly as it may be) prospect" from Trenton is out with a hand injury! And from what I heard last night, Murphy is out again with injury, Gionta is out with injury, Mike Pandolfo is out with a hand injury, and Moran has been out for some time now. Which leaves them with 8 "healthy" forwards, and 7 dmen.

What else does Vrana have to do? Honestly.

I'm not a huge fan of either callup.


I agree with you but I see this move happening for 2 reasons:

1. Barry's LAST shot with us, we all know he has gotten some time with us before and to say his game has leveled offf since college is an understatement, I see this is Lous way of giving him the Suggy treatment maybe get him a goal then move him, as he he certainly has no value at all.

2. Other than Vrana, Clark is being rewarded for his play in the A....I think Vrana will get the next nod. But I hope Noah, Petr and Nik all get some games with us this season, and for that matter just for being kick ass Grant Marshall for one more cup of cofee with the big Devils....I miss one of the games most underated middleweights(this coming from Asham;s number one advocate to get him on this team), Anyone else remembe3r him taking out Peters and Cairns9yet breaking his hand and losing the grit to take the flyers in 04).

Barry is only as good as the players he's on a line with. Last season, him Minard and Papineau were totally on fire, scoring almost every game, as soon as one went down, they all did. Hes clicky, some players can play with anyone and make them as great as they are, Barry obviously is not one of them, he needs someone great to guide him. He does have alot of natural skill, and hes very creative with the puck, but you dont see any of that in games.... why, i still havent figured that out. Barry's biggest problem is his skating, for his size he skates all wrong. If he gets to play, watch how horrible it is, and how winded he gets in such a lil time, if he learned how to skate correctly, his shifts would be longer, his stamina would be higher and he would be a much more effective player. Although the last couple games he has picked up his checking, its far less than what it should be for a man his size! It doesn't help that hes lost alot of weight, and has not picked up any in muscle! I think they tried to fix his lack of speed by having him drop weight, instead of addressing his lack of correct skating ability!

Clarke is clarke, just a career ahler that gets the occasional call up. He reminds me of a Keith Aucion, for any of you that know of him. Hes a very suitable filler for a short term injury.

Dont expect much of anything from these two though, with only 12 goals in the AHL, I really dont see them making any kinda jaw dropping statement in any game(s) they play in. Take it as it is, just fillers for the roster.

What I wanna know is who Lowell intends to call up for their games, with their "top (as slightly as it may be) prospect" from Trenton is out with a hand injury! And from what I heard last night, Murphy is out again with injury, Gionta is out with injury, Mike Pandolfo is out with a hand injury, and Moran has been out for some time now. Which leaves them with 8 "healthy" forwards, and 7 dmen.

on the nose....with pando out I hope this guy can pop a few in and get his A$$ outta town cause he is lazy and we dont need to have talented yet unmotivated players on this squad. not that he has any value but for his POTENTIAL AND SIZE we could trick a team with him as a 3rd or 4th throw in.


*BTW sorry for the long rants just finally being able to put thoughts together(spelling not so much yet!!) from last night, happy new years devils nation:yo:

Sutter has a way with young guys maybe he sees something in Barry. Maybe he can get something out of him that Julien and Lou could not get, another gear maybe.

I think Tallackson has a bigger chance than most of you are saying to be productive. What has always held him back is his work ethic and his drive. In college he consistantly became a monster performer in the playoffs. His last two stints here I was more impressed than the rest of you, apparently. He has the pieces. Maybe Sutter can put him together, or maybe he's put himself together because he knows he's running out of chances.

Barry is only as good as the players he's on a line with. Last season, him Minard and Papineau were totally on fire, scoring almost every game, as soon as one went down, they all did. Hes clicky, some players can play with anyone and make them as great as they are, Barry obviously is not one of them, he needs someone great to guide him. He does have alot of natural skill, and hes very creative with the puck, but you dont see any of that in games.... why, i still havent figured that out. Barry's biggest problem is his skating, for his size he skates all wrong. If he gets to play, watch how horrible it is, and how winded he gets in such a lil time, if he learned how to skate correctly, his shifts would be longer, his stamina would be higher and he would be a much more effective player. Although the last couple games he has picked up his checking, its far less than what it should be for a man his size! It doesn't help that hes lost alot of weight, and has not picked up any in muscle! I think they tried to fix his lack of speed by having him drop weight, instead of addressing his lack of correct skating ability!

Clarke is clarke, just a career ahler that gets the occasional call up. He reminds me of a Keith Aucion, for any of you that know of him. Hes a very suitable filler for a short term injury.

Dont expect much of anything from these two though, with only 12 goals in the AHL, I really dont see them making any kinda jaw dropping statement in any game(s) they play in. Take it as it is, just fillers for the roster.

What I wanna know is who Lowell intends to call up for their games, with their "top (as slightly as it may be) prospect" from Trenton is out with a hand injury! And from what I heard last night, Murphy is out again with injury, Gionta is out with injury, Mike Pandolfo is out with a hand injury, and Moran has been out for some time now. Which leaves them with 8 "healthy" forwards, and 7 dmen.

When he played in Albany, I always thought Barry was a good skater for his size. Maybe his skating has deteriorated since, but I remember him being a relatively good skater.

Interesting that you bring up Aucoin. I see him in Albany and it's amazing how some players can't make the transition to the NHL. Aucoin is probably the best player in the AHL, and seems exceptionally skilled when he's on the ice, but for whatever reason it can't translate to the NHL.

I think Tallackson has a bigger chance than most of you are saying to be productive. What has always held him back is his work ethic and his drive. In college he consistantly became a monster performer in the playoffs. His last two stints here I was more impressed than the rest of you, apparently. He has the pieces. Maybe Sutter can put him together, or maybe he's put himself together because he knows he's running out of chances.

Yeah, didn't they call him Mr. March at Minnesota because he never did anything until the conference tournaments?

Guys guys, there's no need to panic yet. Yes, this team is dealing with some serious blows right now, but now we'll see what this team is made of. They're dealing with adversity, so hopefully they'll come out desperate, fighting and playing some simple hockey.

A team like Vancouver totally got it together when some of their guys went down with injuries.

The leaders on this team will have to take it upon themselves to make this team go. I'm not worried about Marty Brodeur, he always brings it. I'm thinking about guys like Gionta, Zubrus, Parise and Langenbrunner. Those are the ones who need to pick their games up and show the way. If they do so, the younger guys will follow.

I also wanted to see Vrana up, but I understand the decision not to bring him up right now. Vrana is still only 22 years old and has no NHL experience. Clarke has been up before and so has Tallackson. They're more familiar with the play in the NHL and that's why I think they're up. The Devils need all the points they can get now, so putting a young Vrana in there would put too much pressure on him.

Our lineup looks thin right now, but our guys are capable of pulling it off. They have to come together now, which I think they will do. By no means am I expecting 5-1 wins, but 2-1 wins are doable and equally satisfying IMO.

The Devs can do this. They just need to work a lot harder than they did in their last game.

GO DEVILS!!

Thats the key to getting through this rough spot, our "go to" guys must be exactly that. The powerplay has to start converting and we must take advantage of every opportunity we are given. Unless that happens, I know I won't be watching NHL on the Fly for awhile. It would also be nice to see Zajac come out of this slump because it really does hurt the team, and we can only hope that Elias is better and back quickly. He had been doing a lot better in his previous few games, so I would like to see some more of that.

Good luck to Barry and Noah. They'll contribute well.....

Well they can't be worse than Zubrus and Zajac right now, so why not? I'm guessing its a last chance tryout for Tallackson, its his chance to show up in the NHL or be forever kept in AHL hell.

What does your point about Clarkson and Pelley have to do with the argument? Obviously it's every players dream to play in the NHL and I'm sure Vrana would be elated if he were called up. However, after two seasons of up and down play, I think it would be best for Vrana to get a full PPG season under his belt before taking on the NHL. He's riding high in the AHL right now and that should continue.

People had Clarkson pegged for top six minutes, yes, but no one was claiming that he needed to be on a scoring line to play in the NHL. I think it was generally accepted that Clarkson was versatile enough to fit in on any line. Many people also expected him to fit well with Madden, and that's happened. If he didn't fit in the top six, people still expected him to grab a bottom six role.

Tallackson did not look like a stiff in his 05-06, not at all. He played well. And don't compare Tallackson to Pihlman, it's not really close. Pihlman's goal came off a lucky deflection in front while Barry showed what his size, skating, and puck-handling was capable of with goal against Ottawa. Overall he played well in his call-up that season. When people cite their disdain for Tallackson, they're mostly thinking back to his awful two game call-up in the middle of last season. Currently, he's on pace for 30 goals at the AHL level.

the whole point was back to the original point which was a players confidence. in the simplest terms i think that calling up a player to play at least a few minutes in the NHL is better then leaving them to play big minutes in the AHL. i think petr's confidence would sky rocket with a call-up to the big club and i don't see how you could disgree with this especially on a contract year. Clarkson and Pelley were an example.

you are in the minority with your admiration of Tallackson we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject.

Elias and Asham are back tonight, which means Clarke and Tallackson have been sent down...

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the whole point was back to the original point which was a players confidence. in the simplest terms i think that calling up a player to play at least a few minutes in the NHL is better then leaving them to play big minutes in the AHL. i think petr's confidence would sky rocket with a call-up to the big club and i don't see how you could disgree with this especially on a contract year. Clarkson and Pelley were an example.

you are in the minority with your admiration of Tallackson we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject.

Because if he's called up and his minutes and play are stymied, his confidence could dwindle. As I said it works both ways, but I'd rather not mess with his success right now. For example, Jason Spezza spoke about what dominating the AHL in 04-05 did for his confidence and how that helped him with his NHL career.

I might be in the minority, but I'm actually one of the few who has seen the guy play for an extended amount of time. And you're overstating my "admiration" of Tallackson, as I stated he has several big holes in his game. However, he is skilled for a big guy and has been having a good AHL season. There's no reason not to give him one last shot.