JVR - Rippin it up

Looks as though JVR took a commanding points lead in the WJC's today after a 4-point game against Finland. Too bad we don't get US games here in Canada, because those kind of points might be worth watching...

It looks like JVR will finally be getting some attention now, as he's stepping out of Turris' shadow. I know a lot of people assumed that the Flyers made a mistake in passing on Turris, but with JVR doubling Turris' point totals at the moment, he doesn't look like such a mistake anymore. I'm not trying to talk down about Turris, I'm just trying to give JVR some praise.

It looks like JVR will finally be getting some attention now, as he's stepping out of Turris' shadow. I know a lot of people assumed that the Flyers made a mistake in passing on Turris, but with JVR doubling Turris' point totals at the moment, he doesn't look like such a mistake anymore. I'm not trying to talk down about Turris, I'm just trying to give JVR some praise.

yea i am very happy with this tourny so far. but it could be becaue JVR is just bigger than everyone else and able to do better than Turris, that may even out in the NHL

Here come all the Flyers fans.....and start telling us how good JVR is than Turris.

It looks like JVR will finally be getting some attention now, as he's stepping out of Turris' shadow. I know a lot of people assumed that the Flyers made a mistake in passing on Turris, but with JVR doubling Turris' point totals at the moment, he doesn't look like such a mistake anymore. I'm not trying to talk down about Turris, I'm just trying to give JVR some praise.

As much as I hate the Flyers ;), you're right, and I think I said something very similar in a thread not too long ago as well. They've both got their strengths, and JVR and really showing that he can carry the load. He's gonna be a big time player... I myself had some doubts about his production down the line, as I projected him to be a 70-80 point player at his absolute peak, but I think you've got a player that's gonna do that on average, year-to-year.

JVR is going to be a very good NHL'er. I'm still good with the Yotes taking Turris but I'd have been fine the other way around now. It's starting to look obvious that the top part of last year's draft was very good.

Right now JVR is clicking with his linemates while Turris is not.

As a Flyers fan that wanted to see Turris over JVR, this is encouraging.

Here come all the Flyers fans.....and start telling us how good JVR is than Turris.

That wasn't my intention, as I said. It was just hard to hear some people say that we missed out on the next Yzerman by passing on Turris, and that JVR was going to be the next Hugh Jessiman. Of course, anything can happen in their development, and both of those predictions could still come true, but it's nice to see JVR come up big so far in this tournament. If you have a problem with a fanbase being happy with their draft pick, then go some where else.

what a good line he is on, that line has the leader in points, goals and assits, all by different players.

For those living under a rock JVR = James van Riemsdyk.

That wasn't my intention, as I said. It was just hard to hear some people say that we missed out on the next Yzerman by passing on Turris, and that JVR was going to be the next Hugh Jessiman. Of course, anything can happen in their development, and both of those predictions could still come true, but it's nice to see JVR come up big so far in this tournament. If you have a problem with a fanbase being happy with their draft pick, then go some where else.

One of JVR's best assets is his hockey sense -- something that Huge Specimen does not have. I have said that a LOT -- and TONS before the draft yet I was constantly talked down upon by ignorant people who never saw or met the guy.

JVR is Shanahan-esque, IMO, and he has the potential to have a career that resembles Brendan's.

One of JVR's best assets is his hockey sense -- something that Huge Specimen does not have. I have said that a LOT -- and TONS before the draft yet I was constantly talked down upon by ignorant people who never saw or met the guy.

JVR is Shanahan-esque, IMO, and he has the potential to have a career that resembles Brendan's.

Sounds good to me. I like that comparison. I think some people look at JVR's size and think, "just another big power forward, that the Flyers only picked because of his size". From all that I've read, heard and seen , JVR isn't just "a big power forward", but more of a Rick Nash type, who is big, and uses his size effectively, but is more known for his skill, than being a bruiser. Nash and Shanahan are great comparisons to hear, and of course, the other guy he's been compared to, in Philly, is LeClair. That's all Flyers fans need to hear.

Here come all the Flyers fans.....and start telling us how good JVR is than Turris. No one is saying that he is better then Turris.. but he is producing more points then Turris or Cherepanov... I thought Cherepanov was a real deal (and he probably is) but JVR is outscoring both.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that JVR is beating Turris in points in an international tourney..... he did the same last year when he doubled him in points in the U-18's.

jvr is a better player.....i have yet to see turris really put up good numbers against any good competition

Poor Coyotes, stuck with Turris.

One thing I do believe is that JVR is physically ready to play against the top end competition and Turris still struggles a bit with that. He tries to do the work against the boards but isn't very effective yet.

Poor Coyotes, stuck with Turris.
Replace Coyotes with Flyers and Turris with JVR, and that's what Flyers fans have pretty much been saying since the draft. Nobody here is saying either will be better, but ever since the draft, the majority of people here have put Kane and Turris on one level and JVR a few notches down. With JVR's performance here, it's hard to say that JVR isn't every bit the prospect that Turris is.

Replace Coyotes with Flyers and Turris with JVR, and that's what Flyers fans have pretty much been saying since the draft. Nobody here is saying either will be better, but ever since the draft, the majority of people here have put Kane and Turris on one level and JVR a few notches down. With JVR's performance here, it's hard to say that JVR isn't every bit the prospect that Turris is.

Thank you, that's basically what I was trying to say.

Seems like the Flyers have a bit of an inferiority complex. Leading up to the draft, it was a three-way race, a complete tossup among Kane, Turris, and JVR. They were the big three, with not one being pronouncedly better than the other two. At the time, all three projected to be terrific players, and none of them have done anything to make that seem inaccurate.

Seems like the Flyers have a bit of an inferiority complex.
:rolleyes:
Leading up to the draft, it was a three-way race, a complete tossup among Kane, Turris, and JVR. They were the big three, with not one being pronouncedly better than the other two. At the time, all three projected to be terrific players, and none of them have done anything to make that seem inaccurate.
I'm not even going to guess how many times I've read on here that the Flyers made a monumental mistake picking JVR over Turris. I'm sure much of that is from Canadian fanboyism after everyone here wanted to compare him to Sakic and Yzerman, but my point still stands nonetheless.

Read these two threads and tell me with a straight face that this board isn't very biased towards Turris.
Kane vs Turris (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=417563)
Who will be better Kane or vanRiemsdyk (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=405776)

When annointing the 'Top Scorer' of the WJC's, do they take into account the playoffs?

i.e) has JVR already claimed that crown?

I'm neither a PHX or PHL fan, and I gotta say....I'll take JVR

Here come all the Flyers fans.....and start telling us how good JVR is than Turris.

the thread is about JVR what the hell else would we talk about? So you don't think he's as good as Turris? Tell me why beyond the fact that Turris is Canadian. Last time I checked it's the USA with a bye, NOT the Canadians. Right but that loss to Sweden was good for them - wake up call and all that...

Here come all the Flyers fans.....and start telling us how good JVR is than Turris.

ok, lets say player A and player B are both forwards playing in the WJC, both are on scoring lines with good linemates. Player A has twice as many points as player B and is leading the tourney in scoring. Logically you would have to say player A is better than player B.

player A just happens to be JVR and B is turris, and somehow we are fools for saying A is better than B?

Here come all the Flyers fans.....and start telling us how good JVR is than Turris.

You'd be surprised to know that a lot of Flyers fans do not necessarily believe that to be the case.


Perhaps you shouldn't jump to conclusions and have more of an open mind.

I don't think there is any doubt that JVR is playing better in this tournament and possibly even overall this year.

That doesn't make either the obvious "better player" right now or certainly not in the future.

I'd guess both teams' fans should be pretty happy they have them on board, they were the #2 and #3 pikcs in the draft. Chicago fans are happy too.

I don't think there is any doubt that JVR is playing better in this tournament and possibly even overall this year.

That doesn't make either the obvious "better player" right now or certainly not in the future.

I'd guess both teams' fans should be pretty happy they have them on board, they were the #2 and #3 pikcs in the draft. Chicago fans are happy too.

its a shame that the flyers didn't get a chance to draft kane. a line of gagne-briere-kane? wow.....