GDT 41: Anaheim @ Vancouver 12/30/07 5:00

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5:00pm
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From NHL.com:

The Vancouver Canucks lost six of their first seven games at home this season. They haven't lost in regulation at General Motors Place since.

The Canucks try to extend their point streak at home to 12 games on Sunday when they host the Anaheim Ducks.

Vancouver (21-13-4) was outscored 26-13 during a 1-6-0 start to their home schedule. Since a 3-0 loss to Nashville on Nov. 1, though, the Canucks have been nearly unbeatable on home ice. They're 9-0-2 in that span while outscoring the opposition 34-10.

Roberto Luongo has been between the pipes for every Canucks home game this season, and during the team's home unbeaten stretch he has a 0.89 goals-against average and .967 save percentage.

He's 5-5-0 with a 2.00 GAA against the Ducks in his career.

Luongo gave up his most goals of his home hot streak Thursday, but Vancouver still beat Calgary 5-3.

"It was a sloppy game, there was a lot of turnovers on both sides and fortunately we were able to get some goals," Luongo said.

The Canucks received goals from some unlikely sources. Defenseman Sami Salo scored his first of the season and rookie Mason Raymond scored his third goal and added an assist in the victory.

Raymond's first career goal came against the Ducks in a 3-2 Vancouver win Dec. 12 at Anaheim. He has seven points in eight games since being recalled from the AHL.

The Canucks have won both meetings with the Ducks this season. However, before a 4-0 win on Nov. 27, they had dropped six straight at home in the series.

Markus Naslund, whose 13 goals rank second on the team behind Daniel Sedin's 16, has 20 goals and 28 assists in 48 career games against the Ducks.

Anaheim (19-16-5) had won four in a row overall and four straight on the road prior to a 5-3 loss at Calgary on Saturday.

The Ducks squandered a two-goal lead as the Flames scored the game's final four goals, including Jarome Iginla's game-winner on the power play with less than four minutes remaining.

"We gave them far too many opportunities," Anaheim coach Randy Carlyle said. "You can't continually kill penalties in the third period and expect to win the hockey game."

Though they've played better lately, the Ducks' defense of their Stanley Cup championship hasn't gone as well as expected, largely due to their struggles on special teams. They've been shorthanded a league-high 220 times - 33 more than the next-closest team - and they're among the NHL's bottom 10 teams in killing penalties.

One major recent boost for the Ducks has been the return of defenseman Scott Niedermayer. Last season's Conn Smythe trophy winner was leaning toward retirement at the beginning of 2007-08, but since he returned on Dec. 16, the Ducks are 4-1-1.

He picked up his first goal since April 4 in Saturday's loss to the Flames.

Anaheim leading scorer Corey Perry has 20 goals on the season and three in his past five games, but he's never scored in nine games against the Canucks.

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Another game against the NHL's least whiny fanbase. We've managed to beat neither Luongo nor Sanford. Because offense is lame.

Vancouver's hot, having 1 regulation loss in the last 6 games, as well as the 12 game point streak at home mentioned in that NHL preview.

Sutherby's off of IR. He might play, I'd guess in place of Carter. Hiller in net?

Is it a bad thing that I really want this win in the worst way?

Another game against the NHL's least whiny fanbase. We've managed to beat neither Luongo nor Sanford. Because offense is lame.

Vancouver's hot, having 1 regulation loss in the last 6 games, as well as the 12 game point streak at home mentioned in that NHL preview.

Sutherby's off of IR. He might play, I'd guess in place of Carter. Hiller in net?

After Giguere's mediocre performance last night, I hope Hiller is in net. Another reason the Ducks need to win this game is to get my Vancouver friends off the fantasy world they are living in and back to the ground.

Just heard on the Canucks broadcast that Hiller is starting.
Carlyle is starting with the Perry line and Pronger, Canucks will likely start their checking line (Kesler, Ritchie, Burrows).

i've watched the last couple of Ducks games and I gotta say, Bertuzzi looks great out there. he has noticably lost weight and look faster and is getting more and more comfortable on that top line. very good stick skills as well for a big man.

Ducks playing a very tight style tonight. I suppose partially to protect Hiller and partially because that is how the Canucks play.

5-3 Parros and OD in the sin bin.
And the Nucks have scored.

I hate PPV games...

Predictable.

I don't know if they're doing it on the radio, but those who want to do the contest thing (http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=19659),
the first clue is:
He once owned the Ducks' rookie record for goals in a season.

I don't know if they're doing it on the radio, but those who want to do the contest thing (http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=19659),
the first clue is:
He once owned the Ducks' rookie record for goals in a season.
Kunitz? The person Kunitz beat was the snake.

Yay we're losing already!

Marchant with the wide open net... :shakehead

That little bit was pretty encouraging. It is ok. Only 1-0.

Kunitz?

Kunitz, Penner, or Kariya IMO. I think it will be Kariya.

5-3 Parros and OD in the sin bin.
And the Nucks have scored.

Lousy call on OD and Parros seldom takes a bad penalty - but this time he cost us.

Hiller had zero chance.

Lets hope for a smarter 2nd period!

This game sucks.... Someone needs to yell at this entire team, loud.

Kunitz, Penner, or Kariya IMO. I think it will be Kariya.
Not Penner, because Penner is the current record holder. Who held the record before Kariya? Did the expantion team have a rookie? It could be whoever that is.

Not Penner, because Penner is the current record holder. Who held the record before Kariya? Did the expantion team have a rookie? It could be whoever that is.
I just read a book titled "Rocking the Pond."
The expansion team held no rookies.

Sutherby in Miller out and Huskins is playing again. Hnidy sits again.

Not Penner, because Penner is the current record holder. Who held the record before Kariya? Did the expantion team have a rookie? It could be whoever that is.

Your right. Then IMO it has to be Kunitz or Kariya. Whom else could it be?

Feel free to post future clues, I wouldn't mind winning me a jersey. Although you win an "Authentic Team Autographed Ducks Jersey!" Does that mean it's an autographed authentic jersey (not replica) or is it an authentically-autographed jersey (could be either replica or authentic)?

What defines a rookie?
Kariya's first year as both a Duck and a player in the NHL played 47 games (94-95) and had 18 goals.
Kunitz's first year as both a Duck and a player in the NHL played 21 games (03-04) and had 0 goals. But then in 05-06, he played 2 games with the Thrashers and 67 with Anaheim with 19 goals that year with the Ducks.

god we should have kept bryz or atleast gotten something for him

Hiller lets in a semi-softie. These games are frustrating.

Bleh. The Northwest owns us.
Edmonton is 3-1 against us
Vancouver is 2-0
Calgary is 1-1
Min is 2-0
Col is 0-1

Bleh. The Northwest owns us.
Edmonton is 3-1 against us
Vancouver is 2-0
Calgary is 1-1
Min is 2-0
Col is 0-1

Yay 4 pointz!

What defines a rookie?
Kariya's first year as both a Duck and a player in the NHL played 47 games (94-95) and had 18 goals.
Kunitz's first year as both a Duck and a player in the NHL played 21 games (03-04) and had 0 goals. But then in 05-06, he played 2 games with the Thrashers and 67 with Anaheim with 19 goals that year with the Ducks.
Calder eligibility?
To be eligible for the award, a player cannot have played more than 25 games in any single preceding season nor in six or more games in each of any two preceding seasons in any major professional league. The player must not be older than 26 years before September 15 of the season in which he is eligible.

Kariya played nearly 100% of that season's games, that was the lockout year.

Brown and Beauchemin

Brown punching Beauch while he is down.

Why are you in the lineup Parros? Do your job!

The answer to the trivia is Chistov, he tied Kariya's record.

Also I thought Brow was a tough guy, why did he jump Beauchemin?

I think the answer is Mike Crowley who I think had 4 assists in a game back in 96 or 97 I think

Second clue: went to college at Ferris State University
That's definately not Kariya.

Next clue...

Went to college at Ferris State University...has got to be Kunitz.

And here is the proof. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=49486

Next clue...

Went to college at Ferris State University...has got to be Kunitz.

And here is the proof. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=49486 (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=49486)

I was just about to say:
Notable Alumni


Chris Kunitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kunitz) - Professional ice hockey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey) player for the Anaheim Ducks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaheim_Ducks)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferris_State_University

I already submitted guys, so boo yah... :D ;)

I think its safe to say the contest is much more entertaining than the Canucks game.

And if no one here wins today, there will two more chances: February 10 and March 9, 2008.

I think its safe to say the contest is much more entertaining than the Canucks game.
I was about to say the same thing. Ha.

I think its safe to say the contest is much more entertaining than the Canucks game.

If it wasn't for this contest, I would be bored stiff. I have to give credit where credit is due. ;)

If it wasn't for this contest, I would be bored stiff. I have to give credit where credit is due. ;)
I think that energetic crowd could only wish they had a cool trivia contest to do.

OK I just saw that 2nd goal. Weak.

my bad I didnt realize they were unrelated and I think chistov tied the points record not the goals record

Why are we interviewing a baseball person? GM(?) of the dodgers?

Wow, Northwest teams fed off us this season.

Parros-Weight-Bertuzzi right now.

Producers threw in a clue by having Kunitz appear in interview after the 1st period. :thumbu:

Sounds like Ryan just got demoted. Bertuzzi-Weight-Parros?

Even though we know who, final clue:
was a Ducks alternate captain this season.
Was, not is.

Even though we know who, final clue:
was a Ducks alternate captain this season.
Was, not is.
Commence the trade rumors!

Actually it said "was named the alternate," so it's fine.

I figured it would be a current Duck (rather than Kariya)

Commence the trade rumors!

Actually it said "was named the alternate," so it's fine.

I figured it would be a current Duck (rather than Kariya)

My bad. I guess what I remembered wasn't what I saw.

Luongo pretends he's Hasek. Flopping around.

Schneider's new year's resolution should be to hit the net with his shots.

Sounds like Ryan just got demoted. Bertuzzi-Weight-Parros?

Desperate time for the Ducks. The team is sucking and the Canucks are doing a decent job of shutting down Getz and Perry.

This is where we miss another scoring winger, Teemu please come back.

2-1

Getz from Scotty.

2-1!! Great pass from Scott Nieds to Getzlaf!!

What the hell just happened? Niedermayer is in the corner, I see a flash of Getzlaf falling down/shooting and next thing I know we've got a goal.

Ha that was fast.

And now Sutherby's out with Weight? Hmm.

What the hell just happened? Niedermayer is in the corner, I see a flash of Getzlaf falling down/shooting and next thing I know we've got a goal.

Ha that was fast.

Scotty ariel backhands the puck in the corner to Getz who "adjusts his body" to one time the shot so that Luongo would not be able to get to the other side of the net in time. Or so I heard. Maybe my hearing is better than my eyesight.

Scotty ariel backhands the puck in the corner to Getz who "adjusts his body" to one time the shot so that Luongo would not be able to get to the other side of the net in time. Or so I heard. Maybe my hearing is better than my eyesight.
It was a rhetorical question. I was actually watching it the entire time. I was just commenting on how suddenly the goal came. I thought Niedermayer was going to cycle it or something, and then next thing I know they score.

At least Luongo didn't get a SO, otherwise I would have never hear the end of it.

Well, at least i can't feel the ducks were cheated by ***** refs in this game. They just lost on their own. :handclap:

The good news less dumb penalties......
The bad news - coach obviously has no faith in the 2nd line and we're still a one line team.

Vancouver played a high energy game - good for them.
Ducks looked lazy, old, slow and tired most of the game.
Too bad wishful thinking didn't help tonight.

Off the Anaheim - hopefully better luck ahead.

The game was boring. I don't even have any comment on it. At least they didn't take so many penalties.

All I want to say is the Ducks are now 19-17-5. With the little streak they had surged to 19-15-5, but now they've lost 2 in a row. If they lose 2 more and drop back to .500, then it would have been apparent that Niedermayer's return hasn't changed anything.

The Ducks have been a .500 team for the majority of the season. 82 points is not going to make the playoffs. Until they fix whatever mental issues they have with being able to play all game, every game, and not to take bad penalties, this team will not be playing in April. Although an experienced top 6 winger would really help in that regard.

And Ryan only played 10 minutes tonight, only 8 seconds more than Parros. His center, Weight, played 15. Another couple games like that and he'll probably be sent down.

The game was boring. I don't even have any comment on it. At least they didn't take so many penalties.



And Ryan only played 10 minutes tonight, only 8 seconds more than Parros. His center, Weight, played 15. Another couple games like that and he'll probably be sent down.

I agree, Ryan's skill is desperately needed, but if RC thinks Parros is a 2nd liner then Ryan is better off developing in Portland. He is not a 4th liner, that is a waste of his ability. Let him play full time with the Pirates.

Bert has moments tonite where he excelled, but he like most of the Ducks looked disinterested most of the time.

Last night was stupid, tonite boring. This team is difficult to cheer for sometimes!:shakehead

I was doing a little number crunching and I think the Ducks will have to win 26 of their next 41 games or roughly .650 hockey to make the playoffs.

I arrived at that number because I figure it will take 96 or 97 points to make the playoffs based on the last several years. So far the Ducks have played 41 games for 43 points, which means they need at least 53 points to be assured a playoff position.

With 41 games left, the Ducks need to win 26 games or achieve a combination of 53 points.

It's not impossible as the Ducks have 20 games left at home in the second half of the season, but they finish the season with games against Dallas (1H/1A), SJ (1H/1A), Phoenix (1H/1A) and LA (1H/1A) not to mention they have two crucial stretches in which they play 12 of 13 on the road and then come home to play seven straight, but could you imagine the Ducks playoff hopes coming down to the final game against Phoenix and it's Bryzgalov vs. Giguere???

THAT'S DRAMA!!!!!

I was doing a little number crunching and I think the Ducks will have to win 26 of their next 41 games or roughly .650 hockey to make the playoffs.

I arrived at that number because I figure it will take 96 or 97 points to make the playoffs based on the last several years. So far the Ducks have played 41 games for 43 points, which means they need at least 53 points to be assured a playoff position.

With 41 games left, the Ducks need to win 26 games or achieve a combination of 53 points.

It's not impossible as the Ducks have 20 games left at home in the second half of the season, but they finish the season with games against Dallas (1H/1A), SJ (1H/1A), Phoenix (1H/1A) and LA (1H/1A) not to mention they have two crucial stretches in which they play 12 of 13 on the road and then come home to play seven straight, but could you imagine the Ducks playoff hopes coming down to the final game against Phoenix and it's Bryzgalov vs. Giguere???

THAT'S DRAMA!!!!!
With the parity this year, it will probably take fewer points than in years past to make the playoffs. 5 points above the Ducks is 3rd (pointswise, ignoring divisions), and 3 points below is 11th.

Last year, 92 points was 8th in the East, and 96 in the West (the only team in the 90s). It might be analogous to the East last season. 93 or 94 might be enough, depending on how many loser points are distributed. We're 10th in win % right now.

The numbers are still pretty grim though.

With the parity this year, it will probably take fewer points than in years past to make the playoffs. 5 points above the Ducks is 3rd (pointswise, ignoring divisions), and 3 points below is 11th.

Last year, 92 points was 8th in the East, and 96 in the West (the only team in the 90s). It might be analogous to the East last season. 93 or 94 might be enough, depending on how many loser points are distributed. We're 10th in win % right now.

The numbers are still pretty grim though.

I played with the numbers a couple of nights ago and I am also calculating we need at least around 94 points. I am really hoping this team gets their crap together, because the way they been playing won't get us 94 points.

What a boring game, the crowd was dead silent as well, only occasional cheer.

Ducks looked lazy and disinterested. Gotta get it going soon, fortunately we have relatively easy 4 games next.

I actually enjoyed this game. But maybe it was the beer. Just had a feeling though that we wouldn't be able to get a shot past Luongo. We prolly should have had like 3 or 4, but he's Luongo.

Ahlers was talking about the Canucks consecutive sellout streak, he said: "193 consecutive shutouts for the Canucks."

No but it was feeling like that for awhile.

I actually enjoyed this game. But maybe it was the beer.

It was the beer.

Must have been some beer.

It was alright.

I was doing a little number crunching and I think the Ducks will have to win 26 of their next 41 games or roughly .650 hockey to make the playoffs.

I arrived at that number because I figure it will take 96 or 97 points to make the playoffs based on the last several years. So far the Ducks have played 41 games for 43 points, which means they need at least 53 points to be assured a playoff position.

With 41 games left, the Ducks need to win 26 games or achieve a combination of 53 points.

It's not impossible as the Ducks have 20 games left at home in the second half of the season, but they finish the season with games against Dallas (1H/1A), SJ (1H/1A), Phoenix (1H/1A) and LA (1H/1A) not to mention they have two crucial stretches in which they play 12 of 13 on the road and then come home to play seven straight, but could you imagine the Ducks playoff hopes coming down to the final game against Phoenix and it's Bryzgalov vs. Giguere???

THAT'S DRAMA!!!!!

I dunno. St. Louis is in the 9th spot right now. They are on pace for 93 points. That's probably about what it will take, since they have 4 games in hand on the Ducks. So in order for the Ducks to get 94 points...51 points in 41 games...a .621 win percentage.

Not easy, but do-able.

It's looking like a big mistake by Burke to go in the Bertuzzi direction rather than the McDonald direction.

But hey, Bertuzzi's his boy.