PGT: Canada/Sweden 12/29

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all good things come to an end. Sweden is good this year. Props to canada for an entertaining game,.

Sweden is the best evarrr!!!

Fun game, but I expect a totally diffrent Canada if there is a rematch.

It was highly entertaining. I was sick and tired of the streak anyways. It's not a TRUE streak when there are 100+ different players who were a part of it. Its a coincidence that a few great teams happen to be stacked one on top of the other.

Now Canada can concentrate on what really matters...PROVING that THIS team is great.

pajaarvi needs to play!

Congrats Sweden, but I would like a rematch :)
Cheers!!

then you might watched the wrong game. ;)

he wasn't great or fantastic today, but very good. and it's hard not to notice him with his full-face shield and his 6'6. but he doesn't bring much offense, but at least his defensive game is good. he's the best defender for team sweden so far, i think.

He doesn't bring much offense now, but I am still extremely impressed by the offense he does bring. When he gets his speed up he joins the attack when its needed late in games. And he got a really heavy shot, and got no problems using it.

What impresses me isn't that he is dominating, because he defenitly isn't in this WJC.

But he plays like he does and is 6'6 and he is born in December 1990.

Wheter Hedman or Tavares is better right now don't mean sheit when it comes to a draft 18 month from now. Neither is good enough to even go in the top 10 if they don't develop from this point. Hedman could "just" be a extremely early bloomer, who won't develop much. Tavares could go in the wrong direction too, or blow past him by a mile in thoose 18 months.

But as things look right now they both look really good. I wouldn't say that Hedman is far behind Tavares though.

Game had everything - good hits, some questionable refereeing, amazing goaltending, bad bounces, referee elbowing a player (:D), broken skate blades...

And a goal with 7 seconds left to top all the craziness off.

Great game by the Swedes, I was really impressed.

one of the greatest games I ever seen

I told you so.;)

i really enjoyed the moment when the canadian teams bench grabbed a swedish players club :P weirdo-des

i really enjoyed the moment when the canadian teams bench grabbed a swedish players club :P weirdo-des
I really think that should be reported. But nothing will happen from it. Very unsportsmanlike to say the least. The refs were blind as well of course, he was chasing the puck and they still didn't see it.

Wth is the penalty for interfering with a player, without the puck, when you're on the bench?

Does this mean people are going to hate Bernier forever like they do Fleury?

Sweden's got an impressive club, solid goaltending and some players who can really create offensive opportunities.


I think the only time Marchand didn't turn the puck over in this game was when he was on a breakaway. All tournament any time an opposition player comes within 3ft of Marchand the puck is theirs.

Does this mean people are going to hate Bernier forever like they do Fleury?
Ask us in a week.

Observations from the game.

The new Swedish style of play is highly entertaining, and they have alot of skill. Sweden deserved to win this game, full marks to the kids.

Canada:
Outside of Alzner, Doughty and Schenn, the team Canada's defensecore SUCKS, badly. Godfrey and Pyett are brutal, they lack any high end skill or hockey sense. I get that Godfrey has a big shot, but what has the meant at any point, NOTHING. Thomas Hickey, is small and not blessed with hockey sense enough to make up for that, the play on the game winner proves that. Take the trailer, not the puck, pretty simple stuff.

This team Canada does not have enough top end skill to win this tournament, not even close. Outside of Giroux, Tavares, Turris, Stamkos and Boychuk, who is being used improperly, this Canadian team does not have enough scoring to win this tournament or over come it's brutal defense.

Players that clearly should have made this team, Zach Hamill, Angelo Esposito, Keaton Ellerby, Leyand Irving, Brendan Smith, Ty Wishart, Dana Tyrell and Brett MacLean. Because they likely could use the improved offensive ability and defensive skill.

This team should have been picked more like they were building a team to win and less like they were picking a team of kids they all know and like. Less Nepotism in the proccess would have helped things greatly.


Edit: NONE of the fault for this loss falls on Bernier, NONE OF IT.

Edit2: Sutter is clearly hurt and needs to be taken out of the lineup or used less, because he's not bringing much to the table.

i really enjoyed the moment when the canadian teams bench grabbed a swedish players club :P weirdo-des
They grabbed what? Sounds dirty.... ;)

Wow Canada losses one game in four years and it's the end of the world. No worries, this game will be forgotten about when Canada four-peats next weekend.

Wow Canada losses one game in four years and it's the end of the world. No worries, this game will be forgotten about when Canada four-peats next weekend.

agreed

They grabbed what? Sounds dirty.... ;)

baaaaa

Did P.K. Subban played? If yes, how did he play?

Wow Canada losses one game in four years and it's the end of the world. No worries, this game will be forgotten about when Canada four-peats next weekend.

They got exposed in losing, and showed why they were lucky to beat the Czechs.

If this team 4-peats, I will be suprised, because they would have to go through 2 of the US, Russia and Sweden, and this team does not look good enough to do that.

Did P.K. Subban played? If yes, how did he play?

He looked ok, only played about 7 minutes and took one penalty. I would like to see him play more minutes then Pyett or Godfrey, those two are aweful.

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What I don't get was the tsn feed showed that Forsberg scored with 13 seconds left in the game, but they ended the game 6 seconds early, what's the deal with that?

They got exposed in losing, and showed why they were lucky to beat the Czechs.

If this team 4-peats, I will be suprised, because they would have to go through 2 of the US, Russia and Sweden, and this team does not look good enough to do that.

just how did they "get exposed" teams lose, most teams lose more than they win.... or is Canada not allowed to lose?

Great game to watch. I couldn't believe how physical they were. I'm hoping we see the Swedes again and I want the same refs. They let the teams play.

Great game, I am really surprised at the outcome. Seriously, Sweden had some big problems in their own end, getting the puck out or starting attacks but no one is mentioning it since they won... Atleast they had big problems with it during the first half of the game.

I really like some of the swedish players, this team feels much better than the one last year even though it might not look like it on paper. Canada's defense before the breakdown looked GREAT though and they will probably win it all.

just how did they "get exposed" teams lose, most teams lose more than they win.... or is Canada not allowed to lose?

You didn't have a problem with them giving up 4 goals in the 3rd period? They got exposed for the lack of offensive and defensive depth.

Great game to watch. I couldn't believe how physical they were. I'm hoping we see the Swedes again and I want the same refs. They let the teams play.
Are you kidding me... The refs did everything to help Canada, no way I would want them in another game vs Canada.

What I don't get was the tsn feed showed that Forsberg scored with 13 seconds left in the game, but they ended the game 6 seconds early, what's the deal with that?

Forsberg scored with 7 seconds left of the game. TV networks often can't use the game clock so they have to use their own clock and try to match it as good as possible. 6 seconds sounds like someone did a bad job. If you're doing a good job, the only time you can notice a time differential is when the play stops and one of the clocks might have jumped over to the other second.

2 questions...


- was Sweden using the Torpedo breakout system?
- Is there a website other then TSN (not working for me) with highlights?

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u asked if Canadians or team Canada is cocky,

this is exactly what you call cocky.

I guess you can't win them all, very fun game to watch and it is better now to loss then in a semi-fianl but I hope this will make the side play better because we have not gotten out of 1st gear yet.

For me the game really turned around when Halischuk (or was it Holzapfl, i can't remember which because they have both been so forgettable) missed a wide open Turris for the breakaway. That really shows Hockey Canada messing up with who they picked for this team. I know not everyone on a team can be big scorers, but how do you pick a guy who can't connect on a pass on a two on none? Turris could have had a clean breakaway from the bluline, and Sweden comes back and scores instead. Forget Marchand giving it away (for the millionth time) and question why he was on the ice. Why would Hartsburg put a struggling player out with under a minute left. And why no timeout after the second goal? Your team just got completely outworked and an unlucky goal off your goalies skate goes in, call a time out and calm them down. Damn. Congratulations to Sweden for a hard fought win, I have a soft spot for the swedes cause there are so many on the canucks.

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Are you really that desperate to try and get attention. I could post a picture from some of the previous tournaments of Canada's gold medals but I do not want to sink to your level.

Are you really that desperate to try and get attention. I could post a picture from some of the previous tournaments of Canada's gold medals but I do not want to sink to your level.

Uh...it was a joke. There was a Swedish headline comparing his goal to Foppa's...just thought I'd have fun with that...won't happen again.

Uh...it was a joke. There was a Swedish headline comparing his goal to Foppa's...just thought I'd have fun with that...won't happen again.

Like I said before......a couple of lucky goals/bounces and Sweden comes out on top. Canada was basically in control of this game for the most part, 45+ minutes and then Sweden gets a couple lucky bounces and all of a sudden Canada is playing catch up. It's no big deal, things will get interesting if the Czechs beat Sweden, otherwise, with the way the playoff games are set up, there is enough rest even for the teams playing the quarter-final games. It was probably good for Canada to get the shutout, 20 consecutive win, even-strength shutout thing out of the way and not have to hear about it anymore! It may be a blessing in disguise?

You didn't have a problem with them giving up 4 goals in the 3rd period? They got exposed for the lack of offensive and defensive depth.


teams have bad games/periods

after winning with 2 shutouts, I'm pretty sure it's safe to give them the benefit of the doubt, that it was a slip up rather than a lack of depth, given how fast it happens leads me to believe that it was a temporary lapse, their pedigree agrees with me as well. this is not a team of Todd Marchants out there.

Observations from the game.

The new Swedish style of play is highly entertaining, and they have alot of skill. Sweden deserved to win this game, full marks to the kids.

Canada:
Outside of Alzner, Doughty and Schenn, the team Canada's defensecore SUCKS, badly. Godfrey and Pyett are brutal, they lack any high end skill or hockey sense. I get that Godfrey has a big shot, but what has the meant at any point, NOTHING. Thomas Hickey, is small and not blessed with hockey sense enough to make up for that, the play on the game winner proves that. Take the trailer, not the puck, pretty simple stuff.

This team Canada does not have enough top end skill to win this tournament, not even close. Outside of Giroux, Tavares, Turris, Stamkos and Boychuk, who is being used improperly, this Canadian team does not have enough scoring to win this tournament or over come it's brutal defense.

Players that clearly should have made this team, Zach Hamill, Angelo Esposito, Keaton Ellerby, Leyand Irving, Brendan Smith, Ty Wishart, Dana Tyrell and Brett MacLean. Because they likely could use the improved offensive ability and defensive skill.

This team should have been picked more like they were building a team to win and less like they were picking a team of kids they all know and like. Less Nepotism in the proccess would have helped things greatly.


Edit: NONE of the fault for this loss falls on Bernier, NONE OF IT.

Edit2: Sutter is clearly hurt and needs to be taken out of the lineup or used less, because he's not bringing much to the table.

I am with you on some points but going on to name a pile of players that should be here is a pile of crap. Irving? What is he going to do the other two cannot do?

Esposito? Just the guy you want when the chips are down( no not really)

Wishart and Tyrrell could play on this team but are they going to make the difference? I like MacLean.

You seem extremely upset with this loss. Angry and bitter may fit as well. Let the event play out and then go to town on second guessing.

Uh...it was a joke. There was a Swedish headline comparing his goal to Foppa's...just thought I'd have fun with that...won't happen again.

I thought it was amusing.

I am with you on some points but going on to name a pile of players that should be here is a pile of crap. Irving? What is he going to do the other two cannot do?

Esposito? Just the guy you want when the chips are down( no not really)

Wishart and Tyrrell could play on this team but are they going to make the difference? I like MacLean.

You seem extremely upset with this loss. Angry and bitter may fit as well. Let the event play out and then go to town on second guessing.

MORE OFFENSE, like Esposito or not, he provides that. Wishart is going to be better then the garbage that is Pyett and Godfrey.

Irving is his own thing, Mason shouldn't be on this team.

No the team just isn't deep enough to win this tournament.

I thought it was amusing.

Thanks, I personally like my pic from last year better

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I really think that should be reported. But nothing will happen from it. Very unsportsmanlike to say the least. The refs were blind as well of course, he was chasing the puck and they still didn't see it.

Wth is the penalty for interfering with a player, without the puck, when you're on the bench?

Every topic I've seen you in is you in some way whining about team Canada being cocky, classless, dirty, arrogant etc. Just enjoy the win man, no one else has a problem with team Canada.

Didn't get to see it, but it sounds like the Swedes played one heck of a game. Good for them.

But, to be honest, I really felt this would be the year Team Canada would finally have their streak broken. This, in my opinion, is the weakest teams I have seen iced since I started paying attention to the tournament in 2004.

I still don't think Canada is going to take Gold this year. But then again, I didn't think they would win it in 2006.

I want them to take it, but I just don't see it. The team next year however, will be amazing and will take the Gold medal. I'd be willing to put a lot down on that.

The game in my opinion was very similar to game 5 of the summit series.

Uh...it was a joke. There was a Swedish headline comparing his goal to Foppa's...just thought I'd have fun with that...won't happen again.

I took your stamp as flattering to Canada. Obviously equating the goal to Foppa's... a revered event in Swedish sports.

Pretty cool considering it is ONLY a round robin tournament win NOT the championship.

And, if it was meant only as a joke it was funny, too!

Like I said before......a couple of lucky goals/bounces and Sweden comes out on top. Canada was basically in control of this game for the most part, 45+ minutes and then Sweden gets a couple lucky bounces and all of a sudden Canada is playing catch up. It's no big deal, things will get interesting if the Czechs beat Sweden, otherwise, with the way the playoff games are set up, there is enough rest even for the teams playing the quarter-final games. It was probably good for Canada to get the shutout, 20 consecutive win, even-strength shutout thing out of the way and not have to hear about it anymore! It may be a blessing in disguise?

Actually, I thought Sweden was playing better than Canada even though they were trailing. Sweden has a team as fast as Canada's but I think they may be bigger. This Swedish team reminds me of last year's Ducks.

Good game. Hats off to the Swedes.

Score 1 for the good guys.

so i decide to turn on the WJHC for the first time..during the second intermission.

wow..i will be watching again!

Score 1 for the good guys.

And what makes Canada the bad guys? Dominating at the world junior level?

And what makes Canada the bad guys? Dominating at the world junior level?

The yankees are hated too right? It is well known that teams that dominate usually are hated, and when they lose, people love it. I hope this post did not sound arrogant, to was not meant to be.

If there was any complacency that was going to haunt the canadians, I bet the leaders of this team will make sure it won't be a problem from now on.

Of course it is still a good thing for the swedes to win this game. I think it removed a huge mental block for them.

If there was any complacency that was going to haunt the canadians, I bet the leaders of this team will make sure it won't be a problem from now on.

Of course it is still a good thing for the swedes to win this game. I think it removed a huge mental block for them.

I hope you are right for the first part of your post, and for the second part, what do you mean by mental block?

Great win but Pajaarvi didn't see a single shift out there :(

The thing that irks me the most about the post-game interviews is the Canadian brass (coaches and players alike) looking at unlucky bounces. Sure Sweden got a good break on the goal off Bernier's foot but I'm pretty sure the Canadian's put one in off Enroths' skate as well. How about a gift-wrapped 5on3 late in the game for a lucky bounce? I cannot stand it how in most of the post-game interviews I heard, the first thing that popped up was unlucky bounce this bounce that. IMO, they have to look in the mirror when looking at why they lost. I'm as big a Canadian follower and fan as there is but lets be honest, Sweden deserved this game and that's not even up for debate. After the first period they carried the play and were far and away the better team. No one was good, from coach to goalie to defence to forwards. I can't think of many individual performances I was actually pleased with today. I thought Giroux and Godfrey were the only guys who even met my expectations today as well as Marchand until the final minute. It will certainly be interesting to see how we respond to this.

Changes need to take place in the lineup IMO and that's where I'd start. Sutter shouldn't even bother dressing for the Denmark game. He doesn't seem 100% and if he is then his performance has been pisspoor without any excuse. He'd be better off getting the 5 days or so of rest between games then going out against Denmark at 60% and doing nothing which has been the case in the first three games of the tournament. That line is supposed to be the big one, along with Marchand-Turris-Giroux and so far both haven't come anywhere close to living up to the expectations. The first line has showed up on the scoresheet and has had some solid shifts but as a whole I think they need to elevate their game to a whole new level. Stamkos hasn't done much for me yet either. Obviously Doughty-Alzner is nowhere near the shutdown pairings of years past but they have done absolute **** all so far. No physical play and no offense outside of Doughty vs. SVK. The play of that pairing hinges on Canada's success in this tournament.

I'd like to know why this years team canada has absolutely no class. What's with grabbing the jerseys and jumping on each other after every goal? Hartsburg's celebrations after goals are excessive as well.
If any player pulled that when Sutter was coaching they'd be sitting on the bench.

Around what time in the game did someone grab the jersey?

I'd like to know why this years team canada has absolutely no class. What's with grabbing the jerseys and jumping on each other after every goal? Hartsburg's celebrations after goals are excessive as well.
If any player pulled that when Sutter was coaching they'd be sitting on the bench.

Huh?

Grabbing the Canada logo you mean? Showing that they scored for Canada? Showing that the "name on the front is more important than the name on the back." And you have a problem with THAT?

FFS man.

Huh?

Grabbing the Canada logo you mean? Showing that they scored for Canada? Showing that the "name on the front is more important than the name on the back." And you have a problem with THAT?

FFS man.

I still think it's dumb and unnecessary. (Note: I didn't see the game, I am just commenting on the idea that someone would do that) Do you see anyone else at any level of hockey do that when they score? It doesn't happen in the NHL, Juniors, Olympics...anything. It's just....strange haha.

Maybe if it were a game winning goal in a championship of some I would find it a bit more acceptable.

I still think it's dumb and unnecessary. (Note: I didn't see the game, I am just commenting on the idea that someone would do that) Do you see anyone else at any level of hockey do that when they score? It doesn't happen in the NHL, Juniors, Olympics...anything. It's just....strange haha.

Yeah, seen it been done countless times before. Just seems a weird think to comment, especially commenting negatively on.

If they rally and win the tournament no one will care about this. Losing one game is not the end of the world, but they need to respond well.

For me the game really turned around when Halischuk (or was it Holzapfl, i can't remember which because they have both been so forgettable) missed a wide open Turris for the breakaway. That really shows Hockey Canada messing up with who they picked for this team. I know not everyone on a team can be big scorers, but how do you pick a guy who can't connect on a pass on a two on none? Turris could have had a clean breakaway from the bluline, and Sweden comes back and scores instead. Forget Marchand giving it away (for the millionth time) and question why he was on the ice. Why would Hartsburg put a struggling player out with under a minute left. And why no timeout after the second goal? Your team just got completely outworked and an unlucky goal off your goalies skate goes in, call a time out and calm them down. Damn. Congratulations to Sweden for a hard fought win, I have a soft spot for the swedes cause there are so many on the canucks.
Halischuk has been one of the better canadian players and his pass wasn't far off the mark...the fact that Turris was out for a minute and a half on a PK had more to do with it, he had no gas left. Hell Halischuk is one of the only +2 players on team Canada.

well the win is big news in swedish media today...hopefully we wont choke after this.

canada deserve to lose this time. sweds playd a good game . well done.

well the win is big news in swedish media today...hopefully we wont choke after this.

How big is it?

How big is it?

first page stuff

first page stuff

Could you pm me more info. about it? Thanks

Canada always get away with stupid **** in the WC and JWC, while their opponents get penalized for everything. The part where a canadian player sitting on the bench interfiered a Swedish player carrying the puck along the boards, is just terrible.

Canada is already good enough, they don´t need the refs on their side to win. It´s the same thing in every ******* tournament, and I know even alot of canadians are aware of this fact.

For Sweden, this was probably the worst thing that could happen.

1: We woke the sleeping bear. If we were to face Canada again, they will tear us a new one.
2: Now they think they´re champions and will be too full of themselves. They´ll lose next game against the Czechs (sp) without a doubt.



Btw, where can I download this game?

And what makes Canada the bad guys? Dominating at the world junior level?
gee, canada has many more players to choose from, they would be really stupid if they did not win every year, dominate as you put it. russia also. I think he means that canada does anything to win, includig cheating, jump the refs. Its canadian sport for f sake! of course the shall win. I expect nothin else than olympic "gold" in vancouver2010. i mean canadian refs reffeing canadian games. LOL. Im bored with canadian hockey monoploy.

50% of you will not understand this, especially if you not know the history.
But i look frwd to the next game anyway.:teach:

And what makes Canada the bad guys? Dominating at the world junior level?
See the thread "Canada too cocky?"

Long story short: when you're dominating a sport, but still feel the need to insult and try to intimidate and psych out your opponents whenever you get the chance, you get a really bad reputation. It's as simple as that. Like the bullies at school, only this time, the bullies have the best grades as well.

On another story, I've read up on that holding incident, where the Canadian player on the bench interfered with a Swedish player on the ice. It should have been a 2 + Game Misconduct. How the refs missed that is very strange, since it was quite obvious and the Swedish player was chasing the puck. Why isn't it being reported? Isn't it worthy of a suspension? It's as unclassy as it can get.

It's crazy. 20 straight wins, and when they finally lose one, by close margins, "it's a wake-up call"?! Didn't ever think that Bob McKenzie would have that subject about 16-18 year olds. Talk about pressure.

I'd like to know why this years team canada has absolutely no class. What's with grabbing the jerseys and jumping on each other after every goal? Hartsburg's celebrations after goals are excessive as well.
If any player pulled that when Sutter was coaching they'd be sitting on the bench.


I agree completely. It shouldn't be happening.

Canada always get away with stupid **** in the WC and JWC, while their opponents get penalized for everything. The part where a canadian player sitting on the bench interfiered a Swedish player carrying the puck along the boards, is just terrible.

Canada is already good enough, they don´t need the refs on their side to win. It´s the same thing in every ******* tournament, and I know even alot of canadians are aware of this fact.

For Sweden, this was probably the worst thing that could happen.

1: We woke the sleeping bear. If we were to face Canada again, they will tear us a new one.
2: Now they think they´re champions and will be too full of themselves. They´ll lose next game against the Czechs (sp) without a doubt.



Btw, where can I download this game?
I've watched just about every Canadian WJC game for probably the last decade and Canada has had their fair share of bad reffing going against them so don't gimme that ****. I can't tell you how many times we've been penalized for a completly legal hit just the receiver goes down hard and is a little shaken so the ref dishes out a penalty. We were lucky enough be on the other end of it yesterday but it's certainly not always like that. In fact i'd say if anything we get the bad end of the reffing in most cases during international play as our hard hitting and gritty style is often seen as a penatly in the eyes of european refs while over here refs wouldn't think twice about calling a lot of the stuff. BTW you can get the entire game from tsn.ca

geez Canada had won 20 freakin' straight games, had not lost in almost 4 years! - had not allowed an even strength goal in 6+ games, had shut out opponents for 8 periods and everyone is roasting them. This team has enormous pressure on it to win EVERYTHING ALL the time. this is Canada's youngest team in 25 years with 2 returning players. this is not excuses; it's facts. props to sweden for a very good third period; sure the reffing sucked but so what? i for one am happy we lost; now the pressure is off, there's doubts about the team and we can focus on being 'underdogs' and winning.

I still think it's dumb and unnecessary. (Note: I didn't see the game, I am just commenting on the idea that someone would do that) Do you see anyone else at any level of hockey do that when they score? It doesn't happen in the NHL, Juniors, Olympics...anything. It's just....strange haha.

Maybe if it were a game winning goal in a championship of some I would find it a bit more acceptable.


That's what I meant.. they think they've just scored the championship goal.
I seem to remember everyone calling Ovechkin a showboat when he grabbed the Russian logo in '05, so what's so different now?

How big is it?

In the paper I read it is a 10 line notice after 2 pages of youth football, and 4 pages of other sports.

On another story, I've read up on that holding incident, where the Canadian player on the bench interfered with a Swedish player on the ice. It should have been a 2 + Game Misconduct. How the refs missed that is very strange, since it was quite obvious and the Swedish player was chasing the puck. Why isn't it being reported? Isn't it worthy of a suspension? It's as unclassy as it can get.

At what point in the game was this? I never saw this, but would like to know.

See the thread "Canada too cocky?"

Long story short: when you're dominating a sport, but still feel the need to insult and try to intimidate and psych out your opponents whenever you get the chance, you get a really bad reputation. It's as simple as that. Like the bullies at school, only this time, the bullies have the best grades as well.

On another story, I've read up on that holding incident, where the Canadian player on the bench interfered with a Swedish player on the ice. It should have been a 2 + Game Misconduct. How the refs missed that is very strange, since it was quite obvious and the Swedish player was chasing the puck. Why isn't it being reported? Isn't it worthy of a suspension? It's as unclassy as it can get.
I can't decide whats more unclassy, Team Canada (according to the Swedish media) or your constant bashing of them, take a page from your self proclaimed saints of a hockey team and nation and enjoy the well deserved win and just drop the trashtalk.

Canada always get away with stupid **** in the WC and JWC, while their opponents get penalized for everything. The part where a canadian player sitting on the bench interfiered a Swedish player carrying the puck along the boards, is just terrible.

Canada is already good enough, they don´t need the refs on their side to win. It´s the same thing in every ******* tournament, and I know even alot of canadians are aware of this fact.

For Sweden, this was probably the worst thing that could happen.

1: We woke the sleeping bear. If we were to face Canada again, they will tear us a new one.
2: Now they think they´re champions and will be too full of themselves. They´ll lose next game against the Czechs (sp) without a doubt.



Btw, where can I download this game?
Don't be complaining cause your Swedes go down everytime a stick comes near them..

Wow Canada losses one game in four years and it's the end of the world. No worries, this game will be forgotten about when Canada four-peats next weekend.

Agreed. Its a wake up call. Heck I still think this is the best team in the tournament. Until I'm proven wrong (maybe next week) I'll continue to believe it. I dont think we've even seen the best of Tavares, Turris or Stamkos yet either. To me this is still a gold medal team. Back to back shutouts and all of the sudden we have a 4 goals against game and its over? We've still allowed 4 goals in three games! That's far less than Sweden.

I'll tell you, I sure miss Gagner, Toews and Staal out there. Woudlnt that be something

Don't be complaining cause your Swedes go down everytime a stick comes near them..


lol ***** canadien , bunch of chickens on your team like Colton Gillies .
elbow to the head all the time the biggest loser on a canadien team ever .. :handclap:

Don't be complaining cause your Swedes go down everytime a stick comes near them..

lol ***** canadien , bunch of chickens on your team like Colton Gillies .
elbow to the head all the time the biggest loser on a canadien team ever .. :handclap:

This is going to end well.:shakehead

Canada got exposed, Sweden deserved to win, and the game was damned entertaining.

This is going to end well.:shakehead

Canada got exposed, Sweden deserved to win, and the game was damned entertaining.

Seriously, you'd think people would've cooled off by now.

Seriously, you'd think people would've cooled off by now.

I agree, it's kind of ridiculous.

At what point in the game was this? I never saw this, but would like to know.

I'm currently downloading the game, I'll see if I can get a good clip of it and youtube it.

jesus **** can the dumbass swedes stop complaining and be happy over the win?! :shakehead:shakehead

jesus **** can the dumbass swedes stop complaining and be happy over the win?! :shakehead:shakehead

oh and I am swedish

I can't decide whats more unclassy, Team Canada (according to the Swedish media) or your constant bashing of them, take a page from your self proclaimed saints of a hockey team and nation and enjoy the well deserved win and just drop the trashtalk.
Just answering why it was written from House that "the bad guys" lost. You can call it bashing how much you want. That's why they're considered "the bad guys".
At what point in the game was this? I never saw this, but would like to know.
It was during the 3rd period I think, about halfway through. A Canadian player on the bench clearly held a Swedish player skating after the puck, which should have been a Game Misconduct. In this case, even a linesman who sees it can call it, so I guess all four refs missed it for some reason.

It was an amazing game from both sides and to see Sweden win the game was fantastic. To see a swedish team playing with so much grit and poise "the north american style" was impressing. I'm not usually that fond of swedish hockey I personally think hockey should be played the North American way with lots of grit, hard hits and a high tempo. But this Swedish team suprised me in apositive way.

That was one of the worst shows of defense I've ever seen in the third period.

Sweden got lucky, all there goals except the last one where scrub goals, where Bernier was out of place.

Canada will still win the gold medals.

That was one of the worst shows of defense I've ever seen in the third period.

Sweden got lucky, all there goals except the last one where scrub goals, where Bernier was out of place.

Canada will still win the gold medals.

yeahhhh sweden are always lucky, all countrys playing canada are lucky if they beat canada, canada was so unlucky agasinst sweden, and the refs were so bad, and the chicken yellow swedes are acting like crying babies and dives all the time, canada are all the winners and the rest is ****, we own, hockey is our game, bla bla bla bla bla
always this attitude, whats wrong with canadian people? if u have this attitude well then please let us answer with same attitude.

yeahhhh sweden are always lucky, all countrys playing canada are lucky if they beat canada, canada was so unlucky agasinst sweden, and the refs were so bad, and the chicken yellow swedes are acting like crying babies and dives all the time, canada are all the winners and the rest is ****, we own, hockey is our game, bla bla bla bla bla
always this attitude, whats wrong with canadian people? if u have this attitude well then please let us answer with same attitude.
Don't generalize an entire country off one ignorant post. I don't blame you for reacting, I agree what he said was stupid and untrue but I've also read countless posts from Canadians myself included congratulating the Swedes for well deserved win.

Don't generalize an entire country off one ignorant post. I don't blame you for reacting, I agree what he said was stupid and untrue but I've also read countless posts from Canadians myself included congratulating the Swedes for well deserved win.

u are right shouldnt generalize, but its difficult to avoid, I have read alot of posts here and its sad to see that alot of canadians are realy lacking of respect towards other countries.

Canada is a greate hockeynation and u have the best league not because canada have the best players, its because the best players want to play in nhl.

u are right shouldnt generalize, but its difficult to avoid, I have read alot of posts here and its sad to see that alot of canadians are realy lacking of respect towards other countries.

Canada is a greate hockeynation and u have the best league not because canada have the best players, its because the best players want to play in nhl.



well since you went off on a little tyrant about canadians lets get one thing straight.
1st Canada is the greatest hockeynation in the world
2nd we do have the best league
3rd most of the best players in the world come out of Canada
4th the best top 5 players ever in the world -you got it are Canadian.

well since you went off on a little tyrant about canadians lets get one thing straight.
1st Canada is the greatest hockeynation in the world
2nd we do have the best league
3rd most of the best players in the world come out of Canada
4th the best top 5 players ever in the world -you got it are Canadian.



1: Really? Who won the last olympics when all the best players competed? Canada didn´t even get a medal:teach:
2: It´s the national hockey league, most teams are located in the USA, not Canada.
3: Considering you have the most players in the world, it´s not that strange.
4: Not so long ago, Sweden had the best forward (Forsberg) and defender (Lidström). Now alot of the superstars are europeans (Ovy, Kovy, Z, Lundqvist, Alfie, Lidström, Datsyuk, Zubov and alot of the up & comers are also non-canadians.

Hockey is the only really big sport in Canada, it´s kinda strange that you are not dominating more than you are.

You need to get off your high horse.

Don't be complaining cause your Swedes go down everytime a stick comes near them..


eer......hi don cherry. You mean like crosby does all the time? or the guy who fell like a (maple) leaf to make it a 5 on 3 advantage in the canada - sweden game?

Crosby - the Rivaldo of hockey

1: Really? Who won the last olympics when all the best players competed? Canada didn´t even get a medal:teach:
2: It´s the national hockey league, most teams are located in the USA, not Canada.
3: Considering you have the most players in the world, it´s not that strange.
4: Not so long ago, Sweden had the best forward (Forsberg) and defender (Lidström). Now alot of the superstars are europeans (Ovy, Kovy, Z, Lundqvist, Alfie, Lidström, Datsyuk, Zubov and alot of the up & comers are also non-canadians.

Hockey is the only really big sport in Canada, it´s kinda strange that you are not dominating more than you are.

You need to get off your high horse.

right on

1: Really? Who won the last olympics when all the best players competed? Canada didn´t even get a medal:teach:
2: It´s the national hockey league, most teams are located in the USA, not Canada.
3: Considering you have the most players in the world, it´s not that strange.
4: Not so long ago, Sweden had the best forward (Forsberg) and defender (Lidström). Now alot of the superstars are europeans (Ovy, Kovy, Z, Lundqvist, Alfie, Lidström, Datsyuk, Zubov and alot of the up & comers are also non-canadians.

Hockey is the only really big sport in Canada, it´s kinda strange that you are not dominating more than you are.

You need to get off your high horse.
A lot of what you say is true but would it kill you to give Canada just a little bit of credit. You do realize that currently 4 of the NHL's top 5 scorers are Canadian. And last season 5 of the top 5 scorers were Canadian and 7 of the top 10. Pretty dominant, I'd say we still have a few of the leagues superstars ourselves.

A lot of what you say is true but would it kill you to give Canada just a little bit of credit. You do realize that currently 4 of the NHL's top 5 scorers are Canadian. And last season 5 of the top 5 scorers were Canadian and 7 of the top 10. Pretty dominant, I'd say we still have a few of the leagues superstars ourselves.

I´d give you the credit if you hadn´t been so smug and arrogant about it.

I´d give you the credit if you hadn´t been so smug and arrogant about it.
haha how was that smug and arrogant? I even admitted to saying that a lot of what you were saying was right, what i said was simply a figure of speech. Had I known you were offended so easily I would have worded it differently but I didn't think most people would find that to be arrogant.

A lot of what you say is true but would it kill you to give Canada just a little bit of credit. You do realize that currently 4 of the NHL's top 5 scorers are Canadian. And last season 5 of the top 5 scorers were Canadian and 7 of the top 10. Pretty dominant, I'd say we still have a few of the leagues superstars ourselves.

I agree, while they have not performed internationally well recently as they have years past(save the junior team), Canada is still the best hockey nation . . and this is coming from a big time American fan . .

haha how was that smug and arrogant? I even admitted to saying that a lot of what you were saying was right, what i said was simply a figure of speech. Had I known you were offended so easily I would have worded it differently but I didn't think most people would find that to be arrogant.

I wasn´t talking about you personally:) Mostly other Canadians who can´t seem to understand that there´s more to pro-hockey than themselves.

I wasn´t talking about you personally:) Mostly other Canadians who can´t seem to understand that there´s more to pro-hockey than themselves.
Ahh that makes more sense, my bad, miscommunication.

Ahh that makes more sense, my bad, miscommunication.

It happens, no harm done.:)

1: Really? Who won the last olympics when all the best players competed? Canada didn´t even get a medal:teach:
2: It´s the national hockey league, most teams are located in the USA, not Canada.
3: Considering you have the most players in the world, it´s not that strange.
4: Not so long ago, Sweden had the best forward (Forsberg) and defender (Lidström). Now alot of the superstars are europeans (Ovy, Kovy, Z, Lundqvist, Alfie, Lidström, Datsyuk, Zubov and alot of the up & comers are also non-canadians.

Hockey is the only really big sport in Canada, it´s kinda strange that you are not dominating more than you are.

You need to get off your high horse.

:handclap:Couldnt said it much better my self:yo:
Get of the high horse
U cant be for real mytor4!!!!!!

A lot of what you say is true but would it kill you to give Canada just a little bit of credit. You do realize that currently 4 of the NHL's top 5 scorers are Canadian. And last season 5 of the top 5 scorers were Canadian and 7 of the top 10. Pretty dominant, I'd say we still have a few of the leagues superstars ourselves.

Its hard to give cred when u are acting so arrogant, how come lots of nations thinks the same=canadians are cocky. What goes around comes around.
U treat people like u want to be treated yourself.

Canadian hockey is good, but u dont deserve to get cred because the lack of humble attitude

Can we let this ridiculous thread die? The game has been over for almost a weak.

Can we let this ridiculous thread die? The game has been over for almost a weak.

Yes. Not a week though.