Another Brother: Doug Clarkson?

I am watching the 2hr replay right now (was at the game) and I just heard Doc mention Clarkson's younger brother Doug.

here is the link to his Kitchener Rangers profile: Doug Clarkson (http://www.kitchenerrangers.com/Profile.aspx?PlayerID=826)

only 8pts in 26 games.

6'4" 224lbs.

i also haven't been able to find any information on whether or not he has been drafted (i believe he hasn't).

but could Lou sign him like he's done with Pandolfo and Gionta...remember that David is undrafted!!

Here's an article on him from a local Kitchener paper (from September): http://news.therecord.com/article/239142 . It's pretty interesting stuff.

I remember asking a Rangers fan about him and that person said that he doesn't seem a likely NHL prospect because although they were sort of similar, Doug isn't quite as talented and doesn't get as much ice time. Their personalities are also different...it seems that our Clarkson is much more of a social creature ;)

Here's an article on him from a local Kitchener paper (from September): http://news.therecord.com/article/239142 . It's pretty interesting stuff.

I remember asking a Rangers fan about him and that person said that he doesn't seem a likely NHL prospect because although they were sort of similar, Doug isn't quite as talented and doesn't get as much ice time. Their personalities are also different...it seems that our Clarkson is much more of a social creature ;)

that article is GREAT

Here are some of my favorite quotes:

But David was more than a good player with a penchant for overtime heroics. He was a creative conversationalist on the ice who drove opponents mad with constant commentary.

Rangers fans adored him.

London fans held up a sign advising him to "shut his mouth" in the 2005 playoffs. Once, David stole the game puck from a record-breaking London win at the Aud to infuriate the Knights. :handclap:

David, a touch under 6-foot-1, could fight, too. He was once suspended for a nasty stick-swinging incident in Guelph. It was all part of the effective package for the Mimico Motormouth


With regards to the size difference between the two
But Doug is much taller.

"I have no clue why," said Doug, who scored 18 goals last season playing Tier 2 for Brampton and Milton.

"We ate the same food."


must we now refer to Clarkson as the "Mimico Motormouth?" I like the old-time nicknames and this fits the mold.

that article is GREAT
With regards to the size difference between the two

Heh, it's funny you mentioned that. It's the first thing Clarkson said when I talked to him at the open house thing and asked him about his brother.

Time to pick him up and see if he can be in the NHL like his brother before anyone else does lol

Time to pick him up and see if he can be in the NHL like his brother before anyone else does lol

I really hope the Devils draft him. In the first round, preferably.

I really hope the Devils draft him. In the first round, preferably.

lol y u say that?

Flyers fans are capable of using sarcasm.

Ray Davies:Brodeur would stink if he didnt have Brookbank, Mottau and Oduya.

Love the sig line, Ray.
Love it! :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
Mottau, Brookbank, Oduya... not quite Stevens, Neidermayer, Daneyko, Rafalski...

Heck we got the Pandolfo brothers and Gionta and Parise's brother, might as well get another one and make it all in the family. Lou can hold them for collateral.

We definately need to sign this kid. He looks like he has alot of potential. Having brothers on the team wouldn't be too bad either.

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/HOCKEY01/801110465

We definately need to sign this kid. He looks like he has alot of potential. Having brothers on the team wouldn't be too bad either.

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/HOCKEY01/801110465

It wouldn't surprise me if the Devils signed him. After all..we also have a bunch of Pandolfos in the system, we have Zach's brother Jordan down in Lowell and we also have Brian's brother Stephen serving as Lowell's captain.

I know! it would fit so well in this whole brother theme especially after the way we lost Neidermayer. Also Ftorek seems to think that Doug would be a 30 goal scorer some day and you know according to our resident expert Mutley, thats a tough thing to do.

Would be a good idea, as Clarkson (David) has a bright future on this team, he plays a like a veteran out there, well apart from the falling part!!! But still, he deffinately has 2nd line potential, maybe throw him out with Parise and Zajac for a couple of shifts??

As for Doug, sounds like a good guy, get em in Lowell Lou!!

Edit - Palmieri plays for the Otters right???

We definately need to sign this kid. He looks like he has alot of potential. Having brothers on the team wouldn't be too bad either.

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/HOCKEY01/801110465
I know Ftorek said he's a potential 30 goal scorer (keep in mind that's in the OHL), but given what Kitchener fans have said along with his stats, that talent must be hard to spot. He's not ranked among the top 210 NA skaters by Central Scouting.

Comparison of David vs. Doug
(Stats from hockeydb)
Doug:
(Age 17) 2005-06 Toronto Thunderbirds OPJHL 44 8 13 21 95
(Age 18) 2006-07 Brampton Capitals OPJHL 23 4 12 16 56
(Age 18) 2006-07 Milton Icehawks OPJHL 41 11 15 26 71
(Age 19) 2007-08 Kitchener Rangers* OHL 29 3 5 8 53

David:
(Age 16) 2000-01 Port Hope Clippers OPJHL 47 18 14 32 118
(Age 17) 2001-02 Aurora Tigers OPJHL 37 26 21 47 141
(Age 17) 2001-02 Belleville Bulls OHL 22 2 7 9 34 8 1 1 2 6
(Age 18) 2002-03 Belleville Bulls OHL 3 0 0 0 11 -- -- -- -- --
(Age 18) 2002-03 Kitchener Rangers OHL 54 17 11 28 122 21 4 3 7 23
(Age 19) 2003-04 Kitchener Rangers OHL 55 22 17 39 173 -- -- -- -- --
(Age 20) 2004-05 Kitchener Rangers OHL 51 33 21 54 145 15 6 2 8 40

Now David is 8 months ahead in the calendar (born March) of David (born November), but still, there's a huge difference. David at 16 scored 18 goals and had 32 pts in the OPJHL in 47 games. Doug at 18 had 15 goals and 27 pts in the OPJHL in 64 games. At 19 David at 22 goals and 39 pts in the OHL in 55 games. At 19 Doug has 3 goals and 8 pts in the OHL in 29 games.

Anyway, Doug could be a late bloomer, but he'd be an extremely late bloomer ala Dustin Penner. Given the #'s he is putting up right now, it certainly appears he doesn't have the tools to reach the NHL or even be a decent AHL'er. So there is no point drafting him. If he improves next year, they can sign him.

Lou obviously wants to sign brothers because of the Niederbros situation. But there's a pretty big difference between a future HOF'er and a 3rd line grinder. Heck, there's a big difference between Gionta/Pandolfo and Clarkson. And those guys have proven more than Doug (Mike Pandolfo was a 3rd rd pick and 20 goal scorer in his Sr. year at BC, Steven Gionta and Mark Pandolfo were solid college players by the end of their 4 years)...and they were signed to AHL contracts.

It makes no sense to draft Doug. It makes sense to sign him into an AHL contract if he has a decent overage year. There's nothing to suggest he's an NHL prospect.

/End Rant

Edit - Palmieri plays for the Otters right???
Yup, he does.

And I agree with Ben - from what I've heard of Dougie, he's not quite the player his brother is. Still, you never know. Maybe working with Ftorek will speed up his development.

I know what you guys are saying, but power forwards always develop slower. Especially a guy his size. He can't possibly turn out any worse than Rupp though can he?

I know what you guys are saying, but power forwards always develop slower. Especially a guy his size. He can't possibly turn out any worse than Rupp though can he?
I'd say it's likely that he does turn out worse than Rupp. Rupp was a top 10 pick (Islanders took him 7th, it was a project pick), but he scored 22 goals (coincidentally, for Erie) and 47 points as an 18/19 year old, and 32 goals and almost a PPG as a 19/20 year old. Rupp very clearly had some talent, it just didn't translate to the NHL (or AHL for that matter).

I'm not saying Doug Clarkson doesn't have a shot at getting signed by the Devils organization, but I would be shocked if he's drafted (I know the Devils like to go off the board, but still). I wouldn't be opposed to having him in the ECHL or something if he has a good end to his junior career. Then he can work his way up, like Mark Pandolfo and many other college players signed by Lowell.

My understanding is also that Doug isn't as feisty as David is (has fought 3 times this year), so I don't think Doug will make it as an enforcer.

I am from Kitchener and have to say this about Doug. He is a project that I would not pick til a late pick. He is not that great of a skater and for his size , he is very awkward and when he tries to hit someone , he is out of place fast , not really a fighter . Honestly , would pass on him as I don't see him even playing for Lowell .

I am from Kitchener and have to say this about Doug. He is a project that I would not pick til a late pick. He is not that great of a skater and for his size , he is very awkward and when he tries to hit someone , he is out of place fast , not really a fighter . Honestly , would pass on him as I don't see him even playing for Lowell .

This is what i heard from a couple of buddies who follow the junior Rangers, he seems to have no fire in his belly unlike his brother. Even coaches agree that hes got to want it more...but power fowards as it was said do develop latter.

But hey, maybe dave can rub off on him, I owuldnt want to see a early pick used om him, if we were to do something I would rather sign him or very late draft pick. Cna you imagine is David had his size the dude would bea monster.

Bumping this thread because Erie's beat writer just wrote a pretty good article on Dougie with some input from our Clarkson:

Clarkson Follows Brother's Standard (http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080116/HOCKEY01/801160440/-1/HOCKEY)
David Clarkson isn't a bossy older brother after all.

For years, he seemed mean, critical and pushy while helping develop his younger brother's hockey skills, Doug Clarkson recalled. Now Doug is the tough yet well-meaning mentor to his cousin, Ryan Clarkson.

"Now I know where he's coming from," Doug, 19, an Erie Otters rookie winger, said of David, 23, the New Jersey Devils' right winger. "I appreciate my brother more now that I'm pushing (Ryan)."

David has guided Doug through his career, teaching him the work ethic and desire needed to succeed.

David takes that responsibility seriously. He has been Doug's brother 17 years longer than he has been a professional hockey player. "I didn't mean to be too hard on him," David said by telephone from Newark, N.J., on Tuesday. "I would do anything in the world for him. You love your brother to death. So you're going to teach him. You want him to make the right decisions and always be working hard."

Doug shares the values he has learned with Ryan, 15, who plays for the Kitchener Rangers midget AAA club and could be chosen in the 2008 OHL Priority Selection in May. Doug has paved the way for Ryan, much like David has helped Doug work toward his professional goals.

Most recently, David spoke with Peter DeBoer, Kitchener coach/general manager, about possibly trading Doug to the Otters before last Thursday's OHL trade deadline. David was concerned Doug wouldn't play much during the Rangers' run to the Memorial Cup, said DeBoer, who coached David from 2002-05.

David wanted Doug to learn from Otters coach Robbie Ftorek, a strong influence on David's career while he played for Ftorek in Albany (AHL) two seasons ago. "David felt it was more important that (Doug) play regular down the stretch this year and not lose that development time," DeBoer said.

Haha, yet another Clarkson.