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snarktacular 12-16-2007, 08:58 PM http://cdn.nhl.com/images/minibanner/ANA.gifvs. http://cdn.nhl.com/images/minibanner/SJS.gif
Ducks 15-15-4 vs Sharks 17-10-4.
TV: FS-Prime Ticket
Radio: 830
Webia: http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Radio
Previous matchups: Nov 17 Ducks 2 Sharks 1 SO (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Recap&gameNumber=287&season=20072008&gameType=2)
Nov 9 Ducks 3 Sharks 2 SO (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Recap&gameNumber=233&season=20072008&gameType=2)
Honda Ponda:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Honda-ext-arch.JPG/250px-Honda-ext-arch.JPG
Today should be the return of Scott Niedermayer and the debut of Doug Weight (who shall henceforth be known as not-McDonald). And Bobby Ryan should make his re-debut, hopefully he can do SOMETHING to replace the offensive black hole we've had on the 2nd line. I don't have anything else to say because I haven't read any previews or anything. Although I will note that both the previous matchups have been Ducks SO wins.
A repeat because effort on my GDT = blowout, the Moen-a Prieta quake:
http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/269744735097a6a9c2.jpg
Oh and if we lose, I'm never making a GDT again.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 09:04 PM Hayward interviewed Weight during the warmups.
Scotty and Weight are in the lineup.
bradycook14 12-16-2007, 09:10 PM scottY kiadd
Sandman33 12-16-2007, 09:11 PM Hayward interviewed Weight during the warmups.
Scotty and Weight are in the lineup.
HOO - RAY. :handclap:
cmcdmania 12-16-2007, 09:12 PM I'm really excited to see how this team will be doing today, with the return of the prodigal son sort of thing.
cmcdmania 12-16-2007, 09:14 PM Live Game Log (http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=Recap&seas=20072008>ype=2&gnum=484)
Scratches:
ANA Brian Sutherby, Drew Miller, Joe DiPenta
SJ Matt Carle
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 09:21 PM Lines:
Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi
Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Parros
Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-O'Donnell
Schneider-Hnidy
Giguere
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 09:24 PM At least we are (so far) playing with a bit of enthusiasm. Lets hope for a strong 3 period game devoid of stupid penalties!:)
Sandman33 12-16-2007, 09:24 PM Lines:
Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi
Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Parros
Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-O'Donnell
Schneider-Hnidy
Giguere
WOW that D is SICK...and they say its D that wins games so lets find out..."grabs popcorn"
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 09:29 PM Bobby Scores from Weight!!
1-0 Ducks
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 09:30 PM Ryan on a sweet pass from Weight. It's nice to have Ryan's skill in the lineup!:handclap:
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 09:30 PM Weight with a nice defensive play, then the puck gets turned over and he carries it into the the O zone on the right side. He then makes a beautiful pass across to Ryan on the left wing for Weight's first assist and point as a Duck.
Liking what I'm seeing so far. I haven't been able to say that in the past half dozen games I've watched.
ranold26 12-16-2007, 09:32 PM What a nice goal/pass/screen by the Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi line.
cmcdmania 12-16-2007, 09:34 PM We've finally broken the other team get the first goal of the game streak!!
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 09:37 PM We've finally broken the other team get the first goal of the game streak!!
Yeah, really. First time since Nov 21 that the Ducks have scored first. That's pretty pathetic.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 09:42 PM bad penalty shot call.
Michalek was not far enough ahead of Pronger...that was very close to side to side.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 09:42 PM good save Giguere!
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 09:43 PM I don't think that should be a penalty shot. Pronger wasn't a step behind Michalek. It should just be a penalty.
chaosrevolver 12-16-2007, 09:46 PM Well atleast we didnt get hurt by the bad call.
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 09:47 PM I don't think that should be a penalty shot. Pronger wasn't a step behind Michalek. It should just be a penalty.
I thought Pronger made an outstanding play - no penalty or penalty shot should have been awarded.
Good period tho - lots of hard work for a change and good goaltending!
chaosrevolver 12-16-2007, 09:48 PM 1-0 Anaheim.
Niedermayer - +1
Ryan - 1G
Weight - 1A
:yo: Nice start!
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 09:48 PM Weight looks good so far, not as slow as some have said either.
Lines:
Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi
Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Parros
Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-O'Donnell
Schneider-Hnidy
Giguere
This team on paper looks amazing and definitely has the skill to make it far. What did Weight say during the interview?
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 10:07 PM This team on paper looks amazing and definitely has the skill to make it far. What did Weight say during the interview?
Just that he was hoping to fit in here and score some goals, and that both he and Scott were a little nervous before the game in the lockeroom.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 10:10 PM shorthanded goal Mitchell.
unfortunate because the Ducks were playing some good hockey before Schneider mishandled the puck there.
1-1
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 10:13 PM That was weak.
Weak play by Schneider, too bad Ryan came close just before that - and now we're shorthanded. Dumb call on Bertuzzi.:shakehead
superroyain10 12-16-2007, 10:18 PM That was a dive by Thornton...
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 10:22 PM looks like we have a 2nd line for the first time this season.
Duckstudd269 12-16-2007, 10:25 PM did the lines change? The sharks radio announcer said they did
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 10:26 PM looks like we have a 2nd line for the first time this season.
Maybe if Ryan had stayed up all year we'd would have had a second line a long time ago.....
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 12-16-2007, 10:27 PM looks like we have a 2nd line for the first time this season.
Funny, as many said they hated this trade because we don't have a second line. I'm only listening to the game(unfortunately SJ's feed, god I miss Carroll and Sev), but they've sounded like they're all playing good. Hopefully they can do this throughout the season.
For those watching, how do Weight, Ryan and Scotty N look?
Dirk316 12-16-2007, 10:30 PM Schneider with a brutal period had at least 2 grade A chances and the giveaway. The 2nd line looks like a 1st line right now :yo:
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 10:34 PM Moen is probably going to get thrown out for third man in.
but he had to step in there. Perry shouldn't be fighting McLaren.
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 10:35 PM Hmm Is Moen gonna get a 3rd man in for that?
Perry was gonna go with McLaren.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 10:37 PM If McLaren wants a fight he can chose from:
Parros
May
Moen
O'Donnell
Hnidy
Bertuzzi
Anthony 12-16-2007, 10:37 PM mclaren isnt much of a fighter
No one going to post "McLaren's gonna get it"?
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 10:39 PM If McLaren wants a fight he can chose from:
Parros
May
Moen
O'Donnell
Hnidy
Bertuzzi
But McLaren wasn't initiating a fight. Perry was because of the rough play McLaren was giving him in the corner. Moen shouldn't be stepping in there that late. Maybe before Perry started shoving McLaren, but once Perry is roughing back Moen should have left them alone.
Blades of Glory 12-16-2007, 10:41 PM If McLaren wants a fight he can chose from:
Parros
May
Moen
O'Donnell
Hnidy
Bertuzzi
Nah, McLaren is not a fighter. He throws big hits and agitates, much like Perry. It's pretty clear he has gotten under Perry's skin tonight. Perry has spent most of the game flat on his ass after running into McLaren.
Smart play by Moen to jump in.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 10:41 PM But McLaren wasn't initiating a fight. Perry was because of the rough play McLaren was giving him in the corner. Moen shouldn't be stepping in there that late. Maybe before Perry started shoving McLaren, but once Perry is roughing back Moen should have left them alone.
McLaren dropped the gloves first, never even gave Perry a chance to square off.
Spiral 12-16-2007, 10:42 PM Hey, Nabokov left his crease and joined the mix, he should've gotten a penalty too!
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 10:42 PM But McLaren wasn't initiating a fight. Perry was because of the rough play McLaren was giving him in the corner. Moen shouldn't be stepping in there that late. Maybe before Perry started shoving McLaren, but once Perry is roughing back Moen should have left them alone.
Yep, and Perry has to learn to control his emotions better. He is a rare Duck - a goal scorer. He's useless to us in the box.
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 10:46 PM McLaren dropped the gloves first, never even gave Perry a chance to square off.
McLaren dropped the gloves, but Perry called for the fight with that high crosscheck when he got up after being knocked on his butt. I don't think McLaren's much of a fighter anyways, although he does have a good 30 pounds on Perry.
Redwingsfan 12-16-2007, 10:50 PM hey guys. i just turned the game on. just wondering how scott niedermayer has looked so far??
btw. im cheering for the Ducks in this game.
GO DUCKS!! lol.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 10:53 PM McLaren dropped the gloves, but Perry called for the fight with that high crosscheck when he got up after being knocked on his butt. I don't think McLaren's much of a fighter anyways, although he does have a good 30 pounds on Perry.
McLaren fought some tough guys earlier in his career. He just doesn't drop them often.
Talentless Practise 12-16-2007, 10:54 PM hey guys. i just turned the game on. just wondering how scott niedermayer has looked so far??
btw. im cheering for the Ducks in this game.
GO DUCKS!! lol.
As to be expected, not as good as he was but still better than 90% of the defensemen in the league. He'll be fine after a few games.
BTW. The big guy looking sharp after a haircut. Go George, he's had a decent game as well.
Duckstudd269 12-16-2007, 11:02 PM why is Carlyle switching the lines? I thought the lines were performing very well? Is someone sitting or hurt?
Duckstudd269 12-16-2007, 11:04 PM Lines:
Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi
Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Parros
Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-O'Donnell
Schneider-Hnidy
Giguere
when is Huskins coming back? What's his status?
Redwingsfan 12-16-2007, 11:08 PM As to be expected, not as good as he was but still better than 90% of the defensemen in the league. He'll be fine after a few games.
BTW. The big guy looking sharp after a haircut. Go George, he's had a decent game as well.
yeah, thats what i thought...thanks..
oh man i hope the wings dont have to play the ducks in the playoffs...
hasnt turned out well from a wings POV the last two times:biglaugh:
+ your team looks amazing right now and Giguere allways plays out of he's mind in the playoffs...
anyway, good luck with the rest of this game and the season....:)
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 11:08 PM Niedermayer just saved Beauchemin. Beauchemin pinched, but lost the puck. Michalek rushed down the ice, but Niedermayer made it back to help cover as Beauchmin kind of caught up to and hounded Michalek into the wall. DiPenta never would have made it back to help.
The Sharks are controlling play right now. Not looking good.
Sandman33 12-16-2007, 11:10 PM yeah, thats what i thought...thanks..
oh man i hope the wings dont have to play the ducks in the playoffs...
hasnt turned out well from a wings POV the last two times:biglaugh:
+ your team looks amazing right now and Giguere allways plays out of he's mind in the playoffs...
anyway, good luck with the rest of this game and the season....:)
Thanks for the kind words! I'd wish your Red Wings luck...but they dont appear to need any at all.:D
Redwingsfan 12-16-2007, 11:15 PM Thanks for the kind words! I'd wish your Red Wings luck...but they dont appear to need any at all.:D
lol. yeah. we have had a good start, but its the playoffs im worried about...
especially if we have to face the ducks. usually great series to watch, but very nerve wrecking:)
I fear playoff giguere;)
oh man that last line was stupid, LOL.
Duckstudd269 12-16-2007, 11:15 PM big penalty kill coming up for the Ducks... Sharks have all the momentum. Let's hope they can keep this up.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:19 PM when is Huskins coming back? What's his status?
day to day. Getting closer to coming back.
Duckstudd269 12-16-2007, 11:19 PM good kill by the Ducks.
Joe Canada 12-16-2007, 11:21 PM I'm a little pissed that when I came home and called Rogers to add the Super Sports Pack to my digital cable (Center Ice, Sunday Ticket, Extra Innings) that they somehow managed to add all the channels except the center ice range (452+)... now I get the odd game on the other channels in the 400s, but I can't call them to fix it until tomorrow. :(
Duckstudd269 12-16-2007, 11:22 PM day to day. Getting closer to coming back.
well who do you think stays in the lineup? Hindy or Huskins?
I hope huskins stays.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:27 PM well who do you think stays in the lineup? Hindy or Huskins?
I hope huskins stays.
Well I look at it this way...Pronger-O'Donnell and Niedermayer-Beauchemin seem to be set pairs. So it comes down to whoever can best compliment Schneider. Because Schneider is a puck moving d-man it makes sense to pair him with a physical stay at home type (Hnidy) rather than another puck mover (Huskins).
Sandman33 12-16-2007, 11:28 PM well who do you think stays in the lineup? Hindy or Huskins?
I hope huskins stays.
Huskins was with us last year when we won and did a good job. He has gotten even better this year. Yes he definitley deserves to stay.
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 11:29 PM Another Ducks-Sharks match, another 3 point game. What is it with these teams that they can't win in regulation?
Ducks_è_Halos 12-16-2007, 11:30 PM Does Scotty really have 7 shots on goal?
Go_Krog 12-16-2007, 11:30 PM Huskins could probably get a better return in a trade though.
Duckstudd269 12-16-2007, 11:31 PM wow how stupid are these Sharks announcers? "I don't know if the Ducks win the cup if they play San Jose last year." ****ing idiots.
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 11:33 PM Weight dawdles too much when entering the zone. That's twice that I've seen that Bertuzzi has gone offsides because Weight made a little move. And I missed most of the 2nd.
chaosrevolver 12-16-2007, 11:35 PM Weight dawdles too much when entering the zone. That's twice that I've seen that Bertuzzi has gone offsides because Weight made a little move. And I missed most of the 2nd.Meh first game. Maybe hes nervous? Trying to do too much?
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:38 PM Ducks dominated the OT...but we are going to the Shootout.
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 11:39 PM Another SO? These teams are addicted to shootouts when they play each other.
Any chance Niedermayer is a shooter?
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:40 PM Bert...nice backhand goal
Static 12-16-2007, 11:40 PM nice.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:41 PM save Giguere on Mitchell.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:42 PM Weight...no goal
Pavelski...scores
1-1 going to the third shooters
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:43 PM Getzlaf...hits the crossbar...had Nabby beat.
torero 12-16-2007, 11:43 PM Hello Duck Fans.
How was Niedermayer ?
rusty or good ?
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:43 PM Giguere makes the save on Setoguchi.
going to 4th shooters for a change.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:44 PM Perry scores.
Marleau scores.
5th shooters coming up...
Sandman33 12-16-2007, 11:45 PM So Who Won The Freakin Shootout Already!!!!;)
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:45 PM Perry scores.
Marleau scores.
5th shooters coming up...
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:46 PM Ryan no goal
Rissmiller no goal
Kunitz no goal
Thornton scores...
Sharks get the 2nd point
Joe Canada 12-16-2007, 11:46 PM The scoreboard kept saying "missed shot" for us... are we that bad?
Sandman33 12-16-2007, 11:46 PM Perry scores.
Marleau scores.
5th shooters coming up...
I hope they go through the whole lineup and Parros wins it.
Sandman33 12-16-2007, 11:47 PM Ryan no goal
Rissmiller no goal
Kunitz no goal
Thornton scores...
Sharks get the 2nd point
NOOOOOOO!!!!!:shakehead
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:47 PM Ducks played one of their best games of the season.
Sharks also played a good road game.
Type of game that should end in a tie...but what can you do...Shootout entertains the fans, and the Sharks get the extra point.
cmcdmania 12-16-2007, 11:47 PM I had hoped for RC to put Pahlsson in the SO.
Ducks_è_Halos 12-16-2007, 11:48 PM I had hoped for RC to put Pahlsson in the SO.
Same here...
No more excuses. The cavalry is here and we still can't manage to score more than a single goal this game.
Disappointing.
McDonald19 12-16-2007, 11:50 PM No more excuses. The cavalry is here and we still can't manage to score more than a single goal this game.
Disappointing.
Well I thought it was a step in the right direction. Ducks played with more confidence that I have seen all season. The only thing this team is missing is a game breaker.
LondonKnightsCrew 12-16-2007, 11:54 PM Well I thought it was a step in the right direction. Ducks played with more confidence that I have seen all season. The only thing this team is missing is a game breaker.
Ryan was very good, Bert was decent and Weight looks like a good pickup though he needs to shoot more and pass less.
Giggy was great and it was one of our more aggressive games this year. If we play this way we will make the playoffs - that though is a big if.....
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-16-2007, 11:54 PM Gamebreaker?
What about Saviormeyer?
torero 12-16-2007, 11:55 PM Hi Duck Fans.
How was Niedermayer ??
did the team play so well under his influence ? or still rusty ?
he spent 23min on ice ... should be good sign
snarktacular 12-16-2007, 11:55 PM Giguere had a great game. We need more games like this from him while the team kind of flounders.
Diggy 12-16-2007, 11:56 PM Hello Duck Fans.
How was Niedermayer ?
rusty or good ?
Both. A rusty Scott Niedermayer is still better then most D in the League. He played really well IMO for his first game back but he was a little off with his passes, body checks, and shots on goal (he hit the post twice and hit the edge of the 5-hole twice).
I do have to say he stepped it up in OT and played awesome.
Dirk316 12-16-2007, 11:57 PM Hi Duck Fans.
How was Niedermayer ??
did the team play so well under his influence ? or still rusty ?
he spent 23min on ice ... should be good sign
A little rusty, hit a post but much better then i thought he would.
B+
USF Shark 12-17-2007, 12:02 AM great game tonight Ducks...this definitely had playoff intensity. See ya'll on Tuesday and then Saturday :D
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-17-2007, 12:05 AM Kinda sad that San Jose has degenerated to the level of Minnesota in terms of a quality watch. They used to be a fun time guaranteed, but they've been Wilsonified.
dburdick 12-17-2007, 12:08 AM Kinda sad that San Jose has degenerated to the level of Minnesota in terms of a quality watch. They used to be a fun time guaranteed, but they've been Wilsonified.
Well I think the Sharks are a pretty exciting team to watch. They generated almost 40 Shots on Goal. The one thing about this game that was somewhat puzzling was the lack of speed on both sides. Is the ice in Anaheim that bad? It seemed like both teams wwere skating in mud.
torero 12-17-2007, 12:09 AM Both. A rusty Scott Niedermayer is still better then most D in the League. He played really well IMO for his first game back but he was a little off with his passes, body checks, and shots on goal (he hit the post twice and hit the edge of the 5-hole twice).
I do have to say he stepped it up in OT and played awesome.
A little rusty, hit a post but much better then i thought he would.
B+
Many thanks ...
iHATEbeauch23 12-17-2007, 12:18 AM post game thoughts: Jiggy kept us in. Offense was kind of a non factor (kind of expected with 3 new faces ) good game though.
Anthony 12-17-2007, 12:27 AM Kinda sad that San Jose has degenerated to the level of Minnesota in terms of a quality watch. They used to be a fun time guaranteed, but they've been Wilsonified.uh
what game were you watching
and, yeah, after six years, the sharks have finally been "wilsonfied"
whatever that means
Sharks14* 12-17-2007, 12:41 AM good game Ducks fans...
Rotten 12-17-2007, 12:42 AM If it wasn't for Giguere, this game could have been easily 5-1 Sharks. IMO, Anaheim did not deserve to win and they were lucky to get a point. Still sloppy play in the defensive zone and losing battles which led to solid scoring chances for the Sharks.
Scott Niedermayer was unbelievable. It amazes me how well he played considering this was his first game back in a Ducks uni. He was the best defenseman on the ice for Anaheim.
Anaheim fans should chant "referees suck" before the puck is dropped. Speaking of Ducks fans, they were pathetic tonight. This was a great game to watch, and yet again the Honda Center sounded like a morgue at times.
Ducksforcup 12-17-2007, 12:43 AM Ducks played one of their best games of the season.
Sharks also played a good road game.
Type of game that should end in a tie...but what can you do...Shootout entertains the fans, and the Sharks get the extra point.
Agreed. Not too disappointed. Baby steps! :)
Chone 12-17-2007, 12:43 AM That was a good game that could have gone either way. I think the Sharks looked a little better in regulation, but only because the refs were a bit generous giving them over twice as much time on the power play. I'm always disappointed with a loss, but it hurt even more considering we really outplayed them in OT and it even looked like we got better shots in the shootout, Weight looked like the only player that didn't get a good look, I guess you have to blame Kunitz and Ryan for missing their shots even though they looked open enough, that is kind of the point of the shootout. I mean Getzlaf's hits the post, no goal, and Marleau does as well, but he just got a little luckier and it caroms just barely in. That left a bitter taste in my mouth, but we didn't get jobbed and they played a good game, it just sucks the next game isn't until Wednesday.
Niedermayer reminded me why he is the best player in the NHL when healthy, and that's enough reason for hope. Along with Bobby Ryan, that second line looks like it will be more dangerous from here on out, and Niedermayer will only help that.
byungshin34 12-17-2007, 01:09 AM Just got back from the game and Weight was looking pretty dangerous with some of his passes. There were a couple of missed passes but I think if he's given the time to mesh with Bertuzzi and Ryan that could be a very good line. Niedermayer didn't look like he was out of shape at all and Giguere was playing a great game. If we can just get the 2nd line clicking I think our scoring will go up a lot.
lux_interior 12-17-2007, 01:31 AM Entertaining game. Nice to have a good second line. Ryan, Weight and Bertuzzi looked really better than the Getzlaf line.
Ryan was impressive, although he still makes some turnovers in dangerous areas of the ice...just inside our blueline, etc.
Would have been good to get the second point. God knows we had like 15,724,623 chances in the OT to win it.
Giguere was a monster this game. I can't wait to see our 2nd line shape up and build some chemistry as they play more together.
snarktacular 12-17-2007, 02:08 AM I'd say the new 2nd line looked good offensively, but I'm a little concerned about them defensively. When they were in the offensive zone they played well. A turnover or two in the neutral zone, but that's not that bad. But there were a couple times where there was some poor defensive play in their own zone. Weight doesn't seem too bad, it's more Ryan and Bertuzzi. I'm just hoping it's mostly that Ryan hasn't had much practice to learn the defensive system. But if they can keep the pressure up in the offensive zone it might not matter too much.
Ducksforcup 12-17-2007, 02:09 AM The loss honestly doesn't really effect me that much. Well, it does, but you know what I mean. ;) As long as this team goes out there and gives it their all, I am for all intents and purposes content.
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-17-2007, 02:09 AM This was a great game to watch, and yet again the Honda Center sounded like a morgue at times.
Some of us didn't think it was a great game, that's why. That game left me in a stupor. An obvious deadlock is not a thrill - no good when you can completely ignore the action and not miss anything.
Gyroduck 12-17-2007, 02:56 AM Good game? I suppose if you are a Sharks fan.
Giguere did what he could given the many shots on goal. But how do you explain all those shots when nearly half of your payroll is in defense alone?
Lets just face it. I thought it was a horrible game. Once again, the Ducks put up all those shots, and yet all of them (except one) gets past the posts. Typical Ducks game this year.
We all know about his stance in defense. I'd like to know what Burke's "blueprint" is for offense. Is Parros the answer? I never understood why he has logged more minutes so far, than the last two seasons combined. I'm sure someone will corrent me on this, but you catch my drift. He can't handle the puck if it was glued to stick.
lux_interior 12-17-2007, 02:58 AM Yeah Parros didn't look too good offensively in this game. But in the past 3-4 games he has created some chances.
But no, I don't think that's Burke's offensive plan. If it was, he wouldn't call up Ryan and acquire Weight.
Go_Krog 12-17-2007, 03:11 AM Parros had a couple big hits that really seemed to shift momentum. especially in the third. id take Parros over Miller any day. they contribute the same offensively and the extra defense Miller brings is made up for by the physicality Parros brings.
BraveSirRobin 12-17-2007, 03:41 AM Ducks-Sharks games always seem close. I don't know, I feel the same way about a shootout loss the way I used to about ties. Yeah we got a point, but you always feel like something is missing. Very anticlimactic if you will.
I only caught the first period, and I'm happy to see Ryan get a goal in his first game after getting called up. Hopefully that does wonders for his confidence. Niedermayer looked good too, even if I'm still kinda upset at him. Meh, I'm sure that'll go away with time.
Sojourn 12-17-2007, 03:58 AM Good game? I suppose if you are a Sharks fan.
Giguere did what he could given the many shots on goal. But how do you explain all those shots when nearly half of your payroll is in defense alone?
Lets just face it. I thought it was a horrible game. Once again, the Ducks put up all those shots, and yet all of them (except one) gets past the posts. Typical Ducks game this year.
We all know about his stance in defense. I'd like to know what Burke's "blueprint" is for offense. Is Parros the answer? I never understood why he has logged more minutes so far, than the last two seasons combined. I'm sure someone will corrent me on this, but you catch my drift. He can't handle the puck if it was glued to stick.
Uh, did you bother to check the penalty minutes, or are you just looking at the basic stats? Anaheim took too many penalties. Penalties generally lead to shot opportunities, and I don't care who is out there on defense. Anaheim did well 5-on-5, they really did.
One of the reasons the score was only 1-1, besides Giguere, was those penalties. Hello? Kind of hard to score when it's 5 on 4 for so long.
Sojourn 12-17-2007, 04:00 AM Gamebreaker?
What about Saviormeyer?
Jesus ****ing Christ dude, it's his first game back. You don't like what he did. I get it. Get over it. He's playing now. Don't be such an ******* about it.
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-17-2007, 04:53 AM Jesus ****ing Christ dude, it's his first game back. You don't like what he did. I get it. Get over it. He's playing now. Don't be such an ******* about it.
Who the **** are you that I should worry if you get it or not? You're sick of it, good. **** you.
Not all of us are willing to ******* the players just for existing. Sorry it makes you sad.
LondonKnightsCrew 12-17-2007, 07:14 AM Parros had a couple big hits that really seemed to shift momentum. especially in the third. id take Parros over Miller any day. they contribute the same offensively and the extra defense Miller brings is made up for by the physicality Parros brings.
Miller has 2 goals and 2 assist in 23 games, Parros has 0 goals 2 assists in 32 games.
Miller has skill and the potential to score 15-20 goals, you cannot say the same about Parros. At least its east to keep track of George's shooting percentage.:sarcasm:
ktulu98 12-17-2007, 07:44 AM Miller has 2 goals and 2 assist in 23 games, Parros has 0 goals 2 assists in 32 games.
Miller has skill and the potential to score 15-20 goals, you cannot say the same about Parros. At least its east to keep track of George's shooting percentage.:sarcasm:
you know what kind of role parros have in this team primary right?
caliamad 12-17-2007, 02:34 PM Most of their scoring chances were not generated on the cycle or on the rush, it actually were turnovers at our own blue line & w/ the counter attack. The outlet passing was very very bad. Defenseman need to put the pucks in better position and the forwad got to battle harder to get the puck out when its not the greatest pass.
Diggy 12-17-2007, 03:20 PM Most of their scoring chances were not generated on the cycle or on the rush, it actually were turnovers at our own blue line & w/ the counter attack. The outlet passing was very very bad. Defenseman need to put the pucks in better position and the forwad got to battle harder to get the puck out when its not the greatest pass.
Well, half their scoring chances were from turn overs in our end and the other half were from stupid penalties we took.
What has happened to Beauchemin this year? Last year he was very solid on D and this year he keeps making big mistakes. It is almost like he is trying to become an offensive powerhouse this year and forgetting that is primary role is defense.
Sojourn 12-17-2007, 03:27 PM Who the **** are you that I should worry if you get it or not? You're sick of it, good. **** you.
Not all of us are willing to ******* the players just for existing. Sorry it makes you sad.
Wow, pretentious much? I've seen your posts, dude. You don't know half as much about hockey as you think you do. In his first game back, he still almost won the game for us in OT, and he was still our best defenseman. Maybe I'm just willing to give credit where credit is due, while you just come across as an *******.
MOENing 12-17-2007, 05:35 PM I went to this game. I met Brad May and he said might of broken his leg. I also got Scott's signature.
Sojourn 12-17-2007, 06:13 PM I went to this game. I met Brad May and he said might of broken his leg. I also got Scott's signature.
I heard May stuck around signing autographs until everyone was satisfied. Sounded really cool of him. I hope May is okay.
MOENing 12-17-2007, 06:19 PM I heard May stuck around signing autographs until everyone was satisfied. Sounded really cool of him. I hope May is okay.
Yea he was a really nice guy. It was for a funraiser for autism.
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-17-2007, 06:53 PM Wow, pretentious much?
Pretentious is telling someone to shut up because you're a ***** about their opinion, in a forum dedicated to people presenting their opinions, because you can't deal with what they've said. Just as if how my opinion makes you feel matters in the least.
I've seen your posts, dude.
Not surprised. I'm widely read :D.
In his first game back, he still almost won the game for us in OT, and he was still our best defenseman. Maybe I'm just willing to give credit where credit is due, while you just come across as an *******.
I am an *******, but you sort of stupidly glommed onto that and failed to notice that I neither granted nor denied anyone credit for anything. I simply made a disparaging comment about a guy I don't like. Scott has all kinds of skill and will have many good games for us, and unlike you, it won't make me like him more. Remember my fellating comment, you little co.cksucker? Pronger, Bertuzzi, Schneider - I've actively disliked those players for their entire careers, and my opinion doesn't change just because they wear my colors.
Sojourn 12-17-2007, 07:05 PM Pretentious is telling someone to shut up because you're a ***** about their opinion, in a forum dedicated to people presenting their opinions, because you can't deal with what they've said. Just as if how my opinion makes you feel matters in the least.
Not surprised. I'm widely read :D.
I am an *******, but you sort of stupidly glommed onto that and failed to notice that I neither granted nor denied anyone credit for anything. I simply made a disparaging comment about a guy I don't like. Scott has all kinds of skill and will have many good games for us, and unlike you, it won't make me like him more. Remember my fellating comment, you little co.cksucker? Pronger, Bertuzzi, Schneider - I've actively disliked those players for their entire careers, and my opinion doesn't change just because they wear my colors.
Somehow I get the feeling as if you've never played the game once in your life, or that if you stepped onto the ice I'd laugh my ass off. I mean, Scotty is obviously such a terrible person for contemplating retirement. He's admitted that he took too long. He has flat out said that he genuinely regrets that it has hurt the team. I guess none of this is enough for you, but hey, it's easy for you, a fan, who obviously knows jack **** about the game.
Widely read, but clearly not widely respected.
You might notice I didn't tell you to shut up. Reading comprehension might help you there. See, I attacked your opinion because it was laughably ignorant to the game of hockey. Scott Niedermayer was an impact player in the last game, despite having only 23 minutes of ice time, and despite it being his first game back. He was the best player on the ice during OT, he was near flawless defensively, and he was obviously playing conservatively offensively. Hey, you can make all the disparaging comments you want, but they actually make you look stupid, not informed. Informed comments come from opinions supported by facts and substantiated comments, which yours clearly were not.
Hate for the sake of hate is just stupid.
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-18-2007, 01:07 AM Sigh - speaking of reading comprehension. You're still doing the stupid glomming thing.
I know he's good. At hockey. Hello? Hello? My opinion of him is not predicated on his ability to play hockey. See it now?
You're a fanboy. I'm not. I don't think I can make it any clearer. Him playing a good game does not equal forgiveness.
Love for the sake of love is just stupid. You won't get that, but it's so great that you said what you said :D
lux_interior 12-18-2007, 01:11 AM Everybody just needs to chill out.
Pepper 12-18-2007, 02:11 AM Sojourn, you should know Booger better by now, he has always been like that. I kinda like it, you just have to understand the way he gets his point across. I certainly see his point, just because someone is a good hockey player doesn't mean you have to like him.
Oh and Booger still likes to eat poop.
Sojourn 12-18-2007, 02:13 AM Sigh - speaking of reading comprehension. You're still doing the stupid glomming thing.
I know he's good. At hockey. Hello? Hello? My opinion of him is not predicated on his ability to play hockey. See it now?
You're a fanboy. I'm not. I don't think I can make it any clearer. Him playing a good game does not equal forgiveness.
Love for the sake of love is just stupid. You won't get that, but it's so great that you said what you said :D
No, you made a sarcastic comment about "Saviormayer" in regards to his return, and I called you on it. That's the long and the short of it.
This isn't love for the sake of love. It's fact. Niedermayer had a good game, and you made a sarcastic remark with the implication that he didn't.
There are obviously a love of things you don't get, but as lux_interior seems to think it's okay to tell people to chill out, but not comment on you bypassing the cussing filter, I guess I'll just stop for now.
Sojourn 12-18-2007, 02:17 AM Sojourn, you should know Booger better by now, he has always been like that. I kinda like it, you just have to understand the way he gets his point across. I certainly see his point, just because someone is a good hockey player doesn't mean you have to like him.
Oh and Booger still likes to eat poop.
No, I agree completely. Believe me, I do. You don't have to like a player to respect his skill. It was the implications of his comment. The sarcastic (and there's no denying the comment was sarcastic) "Saviormayer" comment. That had nothing to do with his off-ice crap or his retirement considerations. That was his game on the ice, pure and simple, and if he's going to contradict his own statements (that is, claiming that he's a good hockey player, and he's not saying anything about his skills) then I'm going to tell him he's full of ****. That's just the way I am.
lux_interior 12-18-2007, 02:19 AM Both of you did infraction worthy things. If you want to keep it up, I can start. If you want to discuss Niedermayer, the game, whatever, it's fine.
Just try to keep things reasonably civil.
Sojourn 12-18-2007, 02:21 AM Both of you did infraction worthy things. If you want to keep it up, I can start.
Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. It's nice to know the mods are doing their job.
I say that sincerely too.
snarktacular 12-18-2007, 02:44 AM What's the big deal about this saviormayer comment? I think it's pretty accurate. The media buzz and fan buzz was pretty to the level that Niedermayer would be the savior. And while he had about as good a game as you could expect considering he skipped 30+ games, it wasn't great and it obviously wasn't enough to solve all the problems.
Sojourn 12-18-2007, 02:59 AM What's the big deal about this saviormayer comment? I think it's pretty accurate. The media buzz and fan buzz was pretty to the level that Niedermayer would be the savior. And while he had about as good a game as you could expect considering he skipped 30+ games, it wasn't great and it obviously wasn't enough to solve all the problems.
Fan buzz, maybe, not necessarily media buzz. Most of the hockey analysts and knowledgable media have said that the Ducks still have a lot of work to do. So, sure, if by media you mean, like, people who don't know ****, then yeah... I guess they think he's the savior.
Anaheim did well in that game. They could have easily won it just as easily as they could have lost it. It was evenly played, with the exception of taking too many penalties. Getzlaf and Perry had an off game, however, and that's hardly the fault of defense (while defense, the last couple of games, has certainly been one of the biggest problems, and wasn't on Sunday).
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-18-2007, 03:14 AM Sojourn, you should know Booger better by now, he has always been like that. I kinda like it, you just have to understand the way he gets his point across. I certainly see his point, just because someone is a good hockey player doesn't mean you have to like him.
Oh and Booger still likes to eat poop.
That I do.
Spankatola Jamnuts 12-18-2007, 03:18 AM No, you made a sarcastic comment about "Saviormayer" in regards to his return, and I called you on it. That's the long and the short of it.
This isn't love for the sake of love. It's fact. Niedermayer had a good game, and you made a sarcastic remark with the implication that he didn't.
There are obviously a love of things you don't get, but as lux_interior seems to think it's okay to tell people to chill out, but not comment on you bypassing the cussing filter, I guess I'll just stop for now.
Hee. You're so bunched over this. Obobo had it right. It had nothing to do with the game, I slept through most of the friggin game.
Whatever implication you read into my comment speaks to your state of mind, not mine. Your extraordinary defensiveness about Heromeyer is obvious to everyone here.
Good thing lux is being lenient, I imagine he can see my infraction count.
Sojourn 12-18-2007, 03:27 AM Hee. You're so bunched over this. Obobo had it right. It had nothing to do with the game, I slept through most of the friggin game.
Whatever implication you read into my comment speaks to your state of mind, not mine. Your extraordinary defensiveness about Heromeyer is obvious to everyone here.
Good thing lux is being lenient, I imagine he can see my infraction count.
I'll be sure to blush at the appropriate time when someone mentions it then. I mean, admiring a player is such a terrible thing, afterall. I should feel ashamed of myself.
I see I was probably right about your actual on-ice experience, though.
lux_interior 12-18-2007, 04:11 AM Goodnight.
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