Ryan recalled

iHATEbeauch23
12-15-2007, 07:41 PM
anaheimducks.com;
http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=346797
to bad they didn't send down drew miller

LondonKnightsCrew
12-15-2007, 07:46 PM
Woo Hoo!

Finally Scott Nieds and Ryan both in the lineup - a badly needed injection of skill!:handclap:

byungshin34
12-15-2007, 07:49 PM
So what can we expect the lines to be? I have a feeling we're going to see the Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry line take over as the 1st line and Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi take over as the 2nd line.

McDonald19
12-15-2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah he will get a chance with Bert and Weight.

Diggy
12-15-2007, 08:06 PM
I mentioned that I thought this was coming in the Doug Weight trade thread. It just makes a lot of sense to get a young guy with the hands Bobby Ryan has to play with Doug Weight. I hope they can work some magic...the Ducks need it!

Dirk316
12-15-2007, 08:11 PM
good news

Duckstudd269
12-15-2007, 09:46 PM
So what can we expect the lines to be? I have a feeling we're going to see the Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry line take over as the 1st line and Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi take over as the 2nd line.

Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi (God I miss Andymac)
Moen-Pahlsson-R.Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Parros

S.Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-Schneider
O'Donnell-Huskins

Jiggy
Hiller

snarktacular
12-15-2007, 09:49 PM
Meh. He's not going to help the team score. He isn't even really playing well enough to warrant a promotion. I feel like an offensive player should be at least a point per game before they deserve the callup. Getzlaf and Perry averaged 1.94 and 1.79 ppg before they were called up. Penner was at 1.47 ppg.

On the other hand they don't really have anyone better for the 2nd line. It would be better if the guy we traded a 2nd round pick for was healthy/able to produce somewhat with the twins so Kunitz could anchor the 2nd line. Platt basically just gets pasted everytime he plays. And Miller doesn't really provide any offense.

iHATEbeauch23
12-15-2007, 09:50 PM
Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi (God I miss Andymac)
Moen-Pahlsson-R.Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Parros

S.Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-Schneider
O'Donnell-Huskin
Jiggy
Hiller

I like it. And maybe sutherby when healthy

Duckstudd269
12-15-2007, 09:50 PM
So this has to mean Platt or Miller goes down, but which one? Personally I'd rather see Miller sent down, but I don't want Platt sitting in the pressbox.

snarktacular
12-15-2007, 09:56 PM
So this has to mean Platt or Miller goes down, but which one? Personally I'd rather see Miller sent down, but I don't want Platt sitting in the pressbox.
The article also says Platt and St. Jacques were sent down.

Duckstudd269
12-15-2007, 10:11 PM
The article also says Platt and St. Jacques were sent down.

Thanks serves me right for not reading it I guess. I wonder what the Ducks are going to do with Hindy, Huskins, and Dipenta? I mean do we really need two spare defensemen in the pressbox? Is it common to keep 24 players on the active roster? The lines look obvious to me, except for the D:

Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-Weight-Bertuzzi
Moen-Pahlsson-R.Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Parros

S.Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Pronger-Schneider
O'Donnell-Huskins/Hindy (Is huskins still hurt?)

Jiggy
Hiller

ex:Hindy,Dipenta,Miller
Do the Ducks finally waive Dipenta? They may wait tell after the holidays to do it.

iLau
12-15-2007, 10:20 PM
Nuff messing around. Anaheim is bringing up the big guns ;)

lux_interior
12-15-2007, 10:30 PM
Meh. He's not going to help the team score. He isn't even really playing well enough to warrant a promotion. I feel like an offensive player should be at least a point per game before they deserve the callup. Getzlaf and Perry averaged 1.94 and 1.79 ppg before they were called up. Penner was at 1.47 ppg.



Keep in mind though that Getzlaf, Perry and Penner had each other in the AHL. Ryan is really the only blue chip forward prospect we have right now in the A.

TheJoeMan
12-15-2007, 11:16 PM
Meh. He's not going to help the team score. He isn't even really playing well enough to warrant a promotion. I feel like an offensive player should be at least a point per game before they deserve the callup. Getzlaf and Perry averaged 1.94 and 1.79 ppg before they were called up. Penner was at 1.47 ppg.

You realize Ryan has 24 points in 25 games right? I mean we're splitting hairs if you think he isn't a point per game player in the A. He's definitely played well enough but the bottom line is we need someone else on that second line. Marchant, Sutherby, Miller and Platt have not worked. Ryan showed great chemistry with Bert in the pre-season and early on so I like this move a lot. Bobby has the skills to be on this team we need that skill right now. Hopefully he can put some points up so he can stick around and get grounded here.

snarktacular
12-15-2007, 11:31 PM
You realize Ryan has 24 points in 25 games right? I mean we're splitting hairs if you think he isn't a point per game player in the A. He's definitely played well enough but the bottom line is we need someone else on that second line. Marchant, Sutherby, Miller and Platt have not worked. Ryan showed great chemistry with Bert in the pre-season and early on so I like this move a lot. Bobby has the skills to be on this team we need that skill right now. Hopefully he can put some points up so he can stick around and get grounded here.
Oh he is a PPG player. But I'd expect a contributing rookie to get even more than that in the AHL.

I think my problem is I think Ryan will develop much better long term if he were just left in the AHL all year. And that having him up now might prevent him from improving his defense and skating, the things he most needs to work on, because he'll be too worried about producing and fitting in the big leagues. In the meantime I'd rather they use somebody without much future as a stopgap, like Platt. Especially since I don't think there will be much, if any, short-term gain with playing Ryan. If the short-term results aren't any better, why decrease the long-term gain?

Dirk316
12-16-2007, 12:10 AM
I wouldnt mind them breaking up the twins for a test

Bertuzzi/Getzlaf/Kunitz
Perry/Weight/Ryan

AdamBanks8
12-16-2007, 01:35 AM
I heard Ryan has been playing LW for the Pirates last month or so. Wouldnt mind seeing him build some chemistry with Getz & Perry. That could be a line that stays together for 10 years. Anyways i'd be a little worried about the Bertuzzi/Weight/Ryan line defensively. Sounds like a bunch of odd man rushes going the other way to me.

Chone
12-16-2007, 03:02 AM
I wouldnt mind them breaking up the twins for a test


I might cry.

Montréal Russians
12-16-2007, 04:10 AM
Team is looking bangin! That defense is going to wreck everyone. WRECK. You will be getting like 40-50% of your offense from defenseman.

Sandman33
12-16-2007, 02:58 PM
Team is looking bangin! That defense is going to wreck everyone. WRECK. You will be getting like 40-50% of your offense from defenseman.

Well thank you for the kind words and we definitley hope so.

This team just hasnt quite found the confidence and stride that it had last season. I used to watch them last season and just KNOW that they were going to score when they were down...because they were GOOD.

Now when the team is down by more than a goal I write the game off. The team doesnt have the confidence or agression that it used to. Hopefully Scotty will bring that back.

inferno98
12-16-2007, 10:21 PM
He has a goal in his first game back. Did he buy himself a couple more games with that?

Duckstudd269
12-16-2007, 10:26 PM
He has a goal in his first game back. Did he buy himself a couple more games with that?

Yes. I don't think we'd call up and guy for one game when no one is hurt, and send him back when he scores a goal. Hopefully he keeps it up. We need a solid 2nd line.

Sandman33
12-16-2007, 10:30 PM
Yes. I don't think we'd call up and guy for one game when no one is hurt, and send him back when he scores a goal. Hopefully he keeps it up. We need a solid 2nd line.

You sure we dont need another 4th line "energy guy"?

Duckstudd269
12-16-2007, 10:32 PM
You sure we dont need another 4th line "energy guy"?

I'm sure, but hopefully the coaching staff is as well.

Go_Krog
12-16-2007, 10:53 PM
id be surprised if he goes back to portland.

sammyp
12-16-2007, 11:32 PM
He has a goal in his first game back. Did he buy himself a couple more games with that?

Yes. He'll continue to play the wing alongside Weight and Bertuzzi until Selanne makes his return -- at which point he will most likely be assigned to Portland.

Rounder
12-17-2007, 10:31 AM
Yes. He'll continue to play the wing alongside Weight and Bertuzzi until Selanne makes his return -- at which point he will most likely be assigned to Portland.

If he contimues to play well, and the reward is getting demoted because some prima donna does not want to put in a full years work, than the organization should be ashamed of themselves

Heavy Hussar
12-17-2007, 10:41 AM
i think doug weight is going to be a very good influence on him. i saw him talking to bobby alot in the sharks game. it looks like bobby went exactly where dougie told him to go on his goal.

CorpseFX
12-17-2007, 10:49 AM
Meh. He's not going to help the team score. He isn't even really playing well enough to warrant a promotion. I feel like an offensive player should be at least a point per game before they deserve the callup. Getzlaf and Perry averaged 1.94 and 1.79 ppg before they were called up. Penner was at 1.47 ppg.

Meh. werent they all playing on the same line then?
who is Ryan playing with? i guess if you throw up arbitrary stats to compare two different situations it makes it logical that he;s "not ready". wasnt he just needing defensive refinement mostly? the kids o-skill will shine at any level.

im not even really a Ducks fan but im excited to see how the kid does.

Diggy
12-17-2007, 02:30 PM
i think doug weight is going to be a very good influence on him. i saw him talking to bobby alot in the sharks game. it looks like bobby went exactly where dougie told him to go on his goal.
I hope it works out that way.

I really liked how Bobby Ryan played offensively last night and I thought that line worked great. Hopefully that line will get even better once Bert and Ryan get used to receiving blind passes out of no where from Weight and Bert works out his timing crossing the blueline when weight has the puck.

I felt the 2nd PP line last night with Weight and Ryan worked a lot better then our first PP line.

Ryan looked better defensively then he did at the start of the season but was still lost out there for most shifts. Hopefully it will improve and hopefully Weight gives him some guidance in that direction as well since Weight is very solid positionally in our own end.

TheJoeMan
12-17-2007, 08:48 PM
They were our best line and if not for all the effing penalties they would have had a lot more chances to score at even strength. If that is what that line can do the first they've ever been on the ice together than I am very encouraged for the future.

But you could definitely a difference in Bobby. He's more patient with the puck, better positionally and skating harder (not necessarily better but we're passed that already). I'm liking what I'm seeing but the bottom line is he needs to continue to put up points to continue. With two months of his salary off the books it makes it easier to keep him here but he still has to earn it.

sammyp
12-17-2007, 09:15 PM
If he contimues to play well, and the reward is getting demoted because some prima donna does not want to put in a full years work, than the organization should be ashamed of themselves

Then what do you expect to happen? I'm not saying it's necessarily the right thing to do, but if Selanne returns that leaves us with three top-6 right wingers. Bottom line is that Ryan isn't going to be slotted with Marchant and May on the fourth line. He could use some time to develop in the AHL anyways. Getzlaf and Perry went through the same thing a couple years ago. They were more than ready to contribute in the NHL, but the organization felt it was best for them to play top minutes in the 'A'.