GDT: Anaheim vs Vancouver 12/12/07 7:00

Ducks vs Canucks
12/12/07
7:00
FSN Prime Ticket
Honda Center

who's tending for VAN? Hopefully they get this game. Parros in right?

who's tending for VAN? Hopefully they get this game. Parros in right?

Luongo on the bench, Sanford in net

Parros out, Sutherby in

I was wondering if there was gonna be a GDT. I've decided not to take a hiatus... I'm bad luck.

Here's some stuff to piss off Vancouverites. An old one and a new one:
http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/26974474cf5ee7ad16.jpg
http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/269744760a201d21d6.jpg

And isn't like EVERYONE out and injured for Vancouver? Do they even have enough players to ice a team?

not on center ice = boooooooooo!!

And isn't like EVERYONE out and injured for Vancouver? Do they even have enough players to ice a team?

They called up some AHLers.

forward lines:

Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Miller-McDonald-Bertuzzi
Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
May-Marchant-Sutherby

Getz line looks great.

Dipenta doesn't look bad either.

Platt's scratched huh? We have too many forwards, someone needs to get sent down or traded.

Platt has been ok, but he needs to produce points to stay with the pro club. Send him down IMO.

Game's been pretty slow so far. Ducks are controlling the majority of the play.

Platt has been ok, but he needs to produce points to stay with the pro club. Send him down IMO.

what the hell has Miller brought that Platt hasn't? Send Miller down...

and the two Canuck AHLers get a 2 on 1 and score.

1-0 Vanc

gahhh...lucky bounce

I guess we probably shouldn't have tried and played that though.

2-0 Vanc

one of the sedins...

turnovers are killing us.....

****... how about limiting the turnovers guys?

noooo!! koon!

****... how about limiting the turnovers guys?

Well the other one was a dump. That one was sorta a turnover Koon never really had it. I thought he should have had it though, Getzlaf assumed he had it and once they got it it was an easy shot.

wow 2-0 after 1. What is it with the Ducks when they play Dallas and Vancover?

WOW, we need Nieds back.

He was supposed to be playing by now!:rant:

they are going to interview Scotty during intermission just in case you didn't know yet.

wow 2-0 after 1. What is it with the Ducks when they play Dallas and Vancover?

:scared::rolly:

Hate to admit it but Hazy's right: we haven't made Sanford work AT ALL yet. Do they know it's not Luongo? :rant:

On a positive note, no stupid penalties. Yet. :help:

This team is going to make me go bankrupt. Everytime they lose to freakin' Vancouver, guess who has to buy the beer...

This team is going to make me go bankrupt. Everytime they lose to freakin' Vancouver, guess who has to buy the beer...

i was in the same boat, but the nucks fan wussed out ("he had too many injuries on his team") ha

...freakin' Vancouver...

Word.

Snoop's Back!

Snoop's Back!
Dont like rap but Snoop's awesome, great charisma.

Ha, DiPenta with a mean streak....

Hurray.. 3-0.

Go Canucks Go

:wave::wave:

3-0 Vanc

Oh come on.

AHL vs Ducks 3-0... :shakehead

Ffs!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh crap. wrong forum. Sorry guys.

3-0 Vanc

Yay 4 goals!

Good lord we're being outplayed by a bunch of call-ups. Why don't our AHLers ever do this to the opposition? :sarcasm:

This is hard to watch. We are lifeless.

Progner to the rescue.

Nice goal by Pronger

3-1 Vanc

Pronger?:handclap:

Keep shooting that puck!!!

Seriously? 2 AHL callups play their first games and they BOTH get goals?

And the Ducks are being shut out by Curtis freaking Sanford?

Well at least Pronger scores as I'm ranting. Maybe I need to rant more. The best part is Pronger scored as I was typing "shut out."

Perfect timing for the "C" to wake us the eff up. :yo:

I seriously can not ****ing believe Joe Dipenta gets payed to play hockey.

I'd sure like to Prong-her.

I'd sure like to Prong-her.

what?

Does anyone know if Huskins is hurt or is he just being scratched? I heard both last game.

I seriously can not ****ing believe Joe Dipenta gets payed to play hockey.

Seriously. I know he's just there for depth, which means expectations are low, but he just looks awkward out there. Looks like he's skating through sand. And he just got put on his a$$ in the corner to prove the point.

Marchant is displaying his speed. Too bad he cannot finish.

For the love of...

Does anyone know if Huskins is hurt or is he just being scratched? I heard both last game.

99% sure he is injured.

Let the penalty fest start.

With all this hooking going on, there must be a pimp on the bench. :shakehead

Only need 2 more penalties to be shorthanded for 1/2 the period!

With all this hooking going on, there must be a pimp on the bench. :shakehead
No, it's cuz Snoop Dogg's posse is in the house.

I seriously can not ****ing believe Joe Dipenta gets payed to play hockey.

lol, kind of true. When Hnidy was playing instead of DiPenta (when Huskins was healthy), you know DiPenta is pretty bad.

Marchant is displaying his speed. Too bad he cannot finish.

This sums up Marchant's entire career.

This is starting to look like the last Nuck game in more than one way...

That was a horrible call BTW.

How's that a penalty on Pahlsson? He beautifully sweeps the puck away while diving. No penalty on either side dammit!

Pronger conveniently checks the Canucks forward to knock the net off. Hmm...

If Pahlsson was playing on any team other than the Ducks, it would have not been a penalty.

Pronger conveniently checks the Canucks forward to knock the net off. Hmm...

I am surprised the refs didn't call that a penalty with the way things are going.

If Pahlsson was playing on any team other than the Ducks, it would have not been a penalty.

Sadly, that is probably true.

I am surprised the refs didn't call that a penalty with the way things are going.
They should have. But maybe they realized how weak the Pahlsson call was and let it go.

Ha... Hayward called Snoop "Mr. Dogg."

What the heck was that? Brown just tackled Moen? It's like they were gonna fight but he decided just to go for the takedown?

Bleh, another golden oppurtunity by Marchant and he fails.

btw, I'd rather have Parros on a breakaway instead of Marchant. Ouch.

I miss Sabourin.

Marchant had so much net to shoot at farside, yet inexplicibly decides to shoot back into the goaltender.

What the heck was that? Brown just tackled Moen? It's like they were gonna fight but he decided just to go for the takedown?

I doubt he wanted to risk having those stitches he got on his face from taking that puck in the noggin in the first re-opened.

The powerplay differential between the Ducks & opposing teams is getting so bad, Yahoo is starting to subtract PPs from Anaheim.

Powerplays:

Vancouver 5
Ducks -1

link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2007121225&refresh=0

Someone forgot to tell the Ducks they are playing Curtis ****ing Sanford, not Roberto Luongo.

Someone forgot to tell the Ducks they are playing Curtis ****ing Sanford, not Roberto Luongo.

Sanford is no Luongo, but hasn't been playing that bad; give the guy some credit.

Scott looks so young with shorter hair and no greybeard.

FSN is having some issues tonight.

Bert's with the twins now. Haven't seen that since London. Or maybe preseason.

And why can't I state I'm a habitual foil-wearer?

FSN = Fox Slideshow Network. The audio sounds like it's from a radio or something.

the ducks are staring a little bit slow, but they seems to be waking up

I'm going to ask a stupid question. Does the goalie raise his arm on icing because he's signalling to the refs he accepts the icing? Or is it just to inform the defenseman that it will be icing?

And why can't I state I'm a habitual foil-wearer?



Because you quoted the troll.

I'm going to ask a stupid question. Does the goalie raise his arm on icing because he's signalling to the refs he accepts the icing? Or is it just to inform the defenseman that it will be icing?

inform the defensmen. Well that's what i've always thought.

Another glorious scoring chance for Marchant, another non-goal. Although at least this time it was because he was hooked down.

Because you quoted the troll.

Are we not allowed to post anything at all here?

I'm going to ask a stupid question. Does the goalie raise his arm on icing because he's signalling to the refs he accepts the icing? Or is it just to inform the defenseman that it will be icing?

To inform the defensemen, but also, should the ref be wavering on the icing call or something, I'm sure there's a little bit of intent there to try and make up the ref's mind.

Bertuzzi seemst to have some good moves, so that kind of surprise me.

Also Vancouver tend to play A LOT better when they experienced injuries, Sanford doesnt stand a chance against pronger's shot though, that is a wicked one. Anyways, the ducks get really close to score on some occasion, that is really scary to canucks fan.

Because you quoted the troll.
Yeah I know. I was just joking.

That was a pretty wretched powerplay. I think it's partly because they don't know what to do with the extra man anymore because they never get any powerplays.

Decent cycling shift by McDonald's line, but they need to eventually get to the middle of the ice. They keep shooting from far outside.

Are we not allowed to post anything at all here?

Read the FAQ.

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Ha, that Kesler penalty was as weak as the Pahlsson penalty. Take that foilies!

Read the FAQ.

2) Trolling: Do not post topics with the sole purpose of starting a dispute. Note that a person disagreeing with your opinion is NOT trolling; keep it civil, even if you're sure the other person is wrong. When visiting the team forums please note that they are fan forums for that team and are here mainly for the enjoyment of that team's fans. Do not visit team forums to cheer against or demean their team, or cheer for their opponent. In other words, if you want to cheer for the Habs and criticize the Bruins, do it on the Habs board. And if someone is doing the opposite on the Bruins board, don't start flaming them to defend the honor of your team. Either ignore it or respectfully disagree and move on.

I didn't do that.

When S. Niedermayer comes back is there any chance he can replace the other Niedermayer's spot on the PP?

I didn't do that.

No Nilsson did, but you quoted him so I have to delete your post too.

No Nilsson did, but you quoted him so I have to delete your post too.

Fair enough.

Perry with his daily fall to the ice.

We really need to score. Not to win, but just so they can't say they lost to AHLers. They only TIED the AHLers.

Schneider

3-2

1:30 left

No Nilsson did, but you quoted him so I have to delete your post too.


No, I didn't. I simply stated that the obvious reason that the Ducks get so many penalties is that they commit a lot of infractions, and that to think otherwise is to buy into unreasonable conspiracy theories.

That isn't demeaning to the Ducks at all. Nor is it cheering against them.

Yay! Schneider blasts one. It hits the post then bounces off the goalie before it goes in.

Now the AHLers only tied the entire Ducks team.

No, I didn't.

Take it to the NHL board or the Canucks board, we don't need it here.

They totally should have pitchforked Sanford there instead of poking at the puck. Shades of Moen last year.

Ducks dominate the third period but run out of time.

Canucks win 3-2.

Too much, too late.

Nucks play excellent team defense, it was all Ducks in the 3rd but Nucks played great in front of Sanford.

McDonald needs Selanne, that much is obvious.

Schneider played like he really wants to stay in Anaheim. Man, it's going to suck if Marchant stays on this team instead of Schneider.

**** sanford. He can take his one great game. **** marchant too. I hate him.

I figured as such. Vancouver was missing Luongo, Morrisson, and Bieksa and had 2 guys come up from the AHL. A can't-lose game. So that means the Ducks have to lose. Especially since they won last game, so it means we'd be back to win-lose-win-lose. And don't forget the backup goalie = shutout or 1 goal game rule.

I'm actually not sure the Ducks really dominated the 3rd quite as much as you'd expect. They got plenty of shots, but a lot were from outside. A lot of cycling, but again it was all outside. Sort of reminds me of Edmonton a couple years ago, except with fewer blocke shots.

Great, great 3rd period, but those bad starts kill you. We really have to get the first goal in a game for once. :help:

Still, not too too disappointed.

If we gain Niedermayer and lose Schneider, we'll miss the playoffs. If we manage to keep them both, we have a slight chance. But it's still a longshot.

If we gain Niedermayer and lose Schneider, we'll miss the playoffs. If we manage to keep them both, we have a slight chance. But it's still a longshot.

Acknowledge the statement, but where is the substance?

Horrific game. I've never seen such a flat Ducks team tonight while at the game (well a few times this year). DiPenta sucks. He had lots to do with losing tonight, as well as a $6.5M dollar man that should have at least made it more difficult to score on. He needed to step up. This game was not even close. Dont let the SOG fool you. When your only two goals come from your defensemen, that tells you something.

If we gain Niedermayer and lose Schneider, we'll miss the playoffs. If we manage to keep them both, we have a slight chance. But it's still a longshot.

Teemu?

Take it to the NHL board or the Canucks board, we don't need it here.

LOL

he has a point.....he was following the rules that you yourself copy and pasted into this thread...

Man, I really honestly do hate the Canucks and their fans...ahh well, atleast I can take solace in the Ducks eliminating them on the way to the cup.

It's obvious what this team needs. A consistant scoring threat would make a world of difference. Oh and the reffing was atrocious.

Didn't Bertuzzi get a stick on the second goal? sure looked like

i could be wrong.lol

People are so blind it hit Ohlunds stick not Bertuzzi's. Schneiders goal.

Ugh. This team is such a mess, they can never put 3 good periods together...ever. The goals scored on Jiggy were a 2-1, a puck lying just outside of the crease that everyone stood around watching and a terrible miscommunication turnover in their own zone. At this point I don't care who gets traded as long as it's not Getzlaf, Pronger or Giguere.

He had lots to do with losing tonight, as well as a $6.5M dollar man that should have at least made it more difficult to score on. He needed to step up.

I'm trying to figure out who you're talking about here... Pronger makes $6.25M, Giguere makes $6M and Scotty (who's not back) makes $6.75M. I don't think we have anybody who makes that much? I'm assuming you're blaming Giguere, but he bailed our ***** out with quite a few saves when we were shorthanded. Before the third period, I'm not sure we even deserved to be within striking distance.

You can't pin the loss on a single player, the whole team played like crap the first 2 periods.

Giguere needs to step up his game big time. He is ranked 23rd in the NHL right now for GAA and 23rd for Save %. As far as I'm concerned he hasn't been worth his money this season so far.

I'm not saying he won't improve, I really hope he does, we have a lot invested in him and our backup is a rookie.

****ing 23rd.:rant:

Giguere needs to step up his game big time. He is ranked 23rd in the NHL right now for GAA and 23rd for Save %. As far as I'm concerned he hasn't been worth his money this season so far.

I'm not saying he won't improve, I really hope he does, we have a lot invested in him and our backup is a rookie.

****ing 23rd.:rant:

I hate to say this, but i'd rather keep Bryz than Giguere. Giggy hasnt been dominant at all this year.

Giguere needs to step up his game big time. He is ranked 23rd in the NHL right now for GAA and 23rd for Save %. As far as I'm concerned he hasn't been worth his money this season so far.

I'm not saying he won't improve, I really hope he does, we have a lot invested in him and our backup is a rookie.

****ing 23rd.:rant:

Did you see the goals scored on him last night? By contrast did you see guys like Marchant and Sutherby fire shots with wide open cages into Sanford's chest last night?

I'm trying to figure out who you're talking about here... Pronger makes $6.25M, Giguere makes $6M and Scotty (who's not back) makes $6.75M. I don't think we have anybody who makes that much? I'm assuming you're blaming Giguere, but he bailed our ***** out with quite a few saves when we were shorthanded. Before the third period, I'm not sure we even deserved to be within striking distance.

My bad. Referring to Giggy ($6M). Yea, its a team effort, but he needs to step it up. You can blame D (D=Defense and DiPenta!)for a couple of breakaways, but that's why you have Superman between the posts. He has missed quite a few of those this year. It's a good thing that Pronger and Schnieder can score. I dont want to imagine what we would be without them.

You cant say much more about everyone else in the Western Conference, except for Detriot, so hopefully we get it together figuring we are darn lucky to be in the chase still. The season is almost half over!

You can't pin the loss on a single player, the whole team played like crap the first 2 periods.

Really, you can't really expect to stop the dreaded Jaffray-Raymond combination.
You can only hope to contain them...




:sarcasm:

Giguere needs to step up his game big time. He is ranked 23rd in the NHL right now for GAA and 23rd for Save %. As far as I'm concerned he hasn't been worth his money this season so far.

I'm not saying he won't improve, I really hope he does, we have a lot invested in him and our backup is a rookie.

****ing 23rd.:rant:

I hate to say this, but i'd rather keep Bryz than Giguere. Giggy hasnt been dominant at all this year.

My bad. Referring to Giggy ($6M). Yea, its a team effort, but he needs to step it up. You can blame D (D=Defense and DiPenta!)for a couple of breakaways, but that's why you have Superman between the posts. He has missed quite a few of those this year.
... le sigh.

Did you see the goals scored on him last night? By contrast did you see guys like Marchant and Sutherby fire shots with wide open cages into Sanford's chest last night?

Oh ****! I didn't realize the reason Giguere is letting in an average of 3 goals a game is because Marchant and Sutherby can't hit the other net.

Thanks for clearing that up.

... le sigh.

so you're fine with the way Giguere has been playing? at least that makes one of us.

People are so blind it hit Ohlunds stick not Bertuzzi's. Schneiders goal.

wow weeee bit lippy aren't you

so you're fine with the way Giguere has been playing?
Last night I was. I do not think any of Vancouver's goals were his fault we had a defensive break down on all of them.

I am not sure if Carlyle is trying to run the defensive play of the team differently this year but it is just not as good. We do not have forwards coming back to help as much and are often making defensive mistakes in our own end. I don't think we even have a neutral zone defensive strategy this year, although given the number of odd man rushes we keep giving other teams any neutral zone strategy is probably a moot point.

Oh ****! I didn't realize the reason Giguere is letting in an average of 3 goals a game is because Marchant and Sutherby can't hit the other net.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Did you even see the goals last night?

yeah dude not one goal was his fault. 2 bad defensive plays. And a perfect shot

Did you even see the goals last night?

I watch every game. But that's not the point, the point is that Giguere hasn't been near the top of his game all season.

Ho hum. Another loss. We've had a few of those.

I don't think Giguere was particularly bad. I don't think he was particularly good either.

I watch every game. But that's not the point, the point is that Giguere hasn't been near the top of his game all season.

neither has the rest of the team.

Meh. I feel like Giguere is typically a stronger 2nd half goaltender than a 1st half goaltender (just my impression, like how he willed us into the playoffs in 06). Hopefully this holds true again this year. I'd say he's certainly not the problem of the team, but he's also not playing like a 6 million dollar goaltender. I feel like there's only been a few games that he's won for us, and with the team playing as inconsistently as it has, it would be huge to have more great goaltending performances.

This game, on the other hand, he was fine. I place more blame on DiPenta. DiPenta didn't prevent the pass on the 2 on 1, that's his job shut that down so Giguere can focus on the puck carrier. Although it was a pretty good pass. And Beauchemin/Pahlsson on the 3rd goal for doubling on the other guy.

Yeah. As that 2 on 1 was happening, I was thinking DiPenta is the last guy I want defending it.

Sure enough.

I watch every game. But that's not the point, the point is that Giguere hasn't been near the top of his game all season.

He's not the reason they're a .500 team.

He's not the reason they're a .500 team.

I didn't say that he was. I stand by my comments about Giguere. Of course the rest of the team is having problems, but I wasn't talking about them. If you actually read my comment, you'll see that there was no blaming Giguere for the loss, only stating that his game isn't anywhere near where it should be right now.

In any case, here is a link to an online college. Try taking a reading comprehension class. Feel free to thank me when you're done. :sarcasm:

http://www.phoenixdegreesonline.com/UPC_10796/index.cgi?site_id=0000617056&media_id=0000388774&omss=0&osss=1&otrm=114165&xssale=$xssale&xsmemid=$xsmemid&xstrtype=31

I didn't say that he was. I stand by my comments about Giguere. Of course the rest of the team is having problems, but I wasn't talking about them. If you actually read my comment, you'll see that there was no blaming Giguere for the loss, only stating that his game isn't anywhere near where it should be right now.


Obviously if you bring up Giguere's name as not playing well following a bad loss in which the other team's starting goalie didn't even play, there is something at work where you are inherently looking at Giguere being a problem. I think he is among the least of their problems this year.

First off I wouldn't consider 3-2 a bad loss. However, when your $6,000,000 goaltender is letting in an average of 3 goals every game there is a lot of room for improvement. Just because I didn't feel like mentioning that Marchant has hands of stone doesn't mean that I don't recognize it. I expect that from Marchant, we all know how he plays.

Giguere however can be better and needs to be better and that's what I felt like commenting on.

However, when your $6,000,000 goaltender is letting in an average of 3 goals every game there is a lot of room for improvement.

His career GAA is 2.48, it's at 2.61 right now. His SA% is basically the same as Turco's right now. The majority of goals being scored against him are predominantly big time scoring chances being funneled to him by lack of mental accumen from his teammates. He relies on positioning and it's hard to do that when your team is giving up 2-1's and watching pucks all the time.

Yeah. As that 2 on 1 was happening, I was thinking DiPenta is the last guy I want defending it.

Sure enough.
But he's Joey "Dependable!" Although Joe "DiPenta-bly beat wide" is probably more accurate.

Didn't Bertuzzi get a stick on the second goal? sure looked like

i could be wrong.lol

ohhhh guess i was right huh..lol

"Dec 15 Bertuzi has scored in back-to-back games for the first time this season. Bertuzzi finished with a goal, but the Ducks suffered a 5-2 home loss to the Minnesota Wild on Friday night. He also provided the final margin with 1:31 left in regulation of Anaheim's 3-2 home loss to the Vancouver Canucks on Wednesday."