Perry Upside

SOBO
12-11-2007, 09:13 PM
ok, i have a buddy of mine that won't stop bugging me about how good perry is,
it is slightly fantasy related, I have getz on my team, and he has a big hard on for him (who wouldn't) and he has perry, he wants getz or wants to give me perry

I told him I have no interest in perry, according to TSN he is a top 6 winger (aka could be as bad as a 3rd liner) or Jason Blake, lol

How good do you guys feel he is/will be, I've heard people say he's a grinder that has a good shot?

Personally i think getz deserves the credit for brinning success to that line, not perry.

Your thoughts?

lwvs84
12-11-2007, 09:21 PM
I am not as knowledgeable as most of the other posters on the Ducks forum, but here's my 2 cents on Perry and Getzlaf so far. Yes Getzlaf is the driving force behind that line, but Perry is no slouch. He is a legit top 6 forward in the NHL. The things he does often doesn't show up on the score sheet. He agitates the other team and their fans. Perry can find open spots on the ice to get his shots from and Getz can get him the puck there. Those two will be a strong force in this league for years to come, in my opinion. Especially if they can find a solid LW to permanently place on that line. Perry, I think, is leading the Ducks in goals and Getzlaf is in points and they have had a revolving door at LW this season. If you can get Perry in your fantasy league for a decent/good price do it! (Granted that could be a biased statement because I love watching those two play together). I have been to only about 6 games or so over last season and this, but Perry and Getzlaf have had points in all of them... more than that, those two have been competing with each other for most dominant forward on the ice every game I have gone to and most of the ones I've watched on TV.

Theridion
12-11-2007, 09:31 PM
Perry grinds, but he is not a grinder. Upside he can be a 30 goal guy, although I believe this year he is on pace for 40 or so.

A good winger on the line would only increase those totals more.

The guy can fight for space and grind. He has good hands and a good shot.

He verbally assaults the opposing team and he is a passionate player.

Duckstudd269
12-11-2007, 09:54 PM
ok, i have a buddy of mine that won't stop bugging me about how good perry is,
it is slightly fantasy related, I have getz on my team, and he has a big hard on for him (who wouldn't) and he has perry, he wants getz or wants to give me perry

I told him I have no interest in perry, according to TSN he is a top 6 winger (aka could be as bad as a 3rd liner) or Jason Blake, lol

How good do you guys feel he is/will be, I've heard people say he's a grinder that has a good shot?

Personally i think getz deserves the credit for brinning success to that line, not perry.

Your thoughts?

if it is fantasy related put it in the fantasy thread...

Chone
12-11-2007, 09:57 PM
I don't see why somebody wouldn't be high on Perry. He's not amazing, but he's very good.

As far as Getzlaf bringing success to that line, I think everybody knows Getzlaf is one of the very best young centers in the NHL, but its not really a line. Its just him and Perry with whoever Carlyle decides to play at LW on any given night. Perry is very skilled player and all you have to do is watch to see that. I don't think we have seen the best of either of Perry or Getzlaf, they keep getting stronger, faster, and better. They are big forwards with great puck possession and passing skills who work really hard and they compliment each other perfectly.

Spankatola Jamnuts
12-11-2007, 10:39 PM
Perry's being underrated. IMO, from the circles in, he's one of the most dangerous players in the league. He has a terrific shot, can stickhandle around defensemen like Zherdev, has elite vision, plays physically and can't be intimidated. He's 22, working on a 40 goal season.

To me, he has 500 goals written all over him, barring injury.

snarktacular
12-11-2007, 10:50 PM
Getzlaf is the better player, he dominates all over the ice. Offensively and defensively. In the corners and in transition. Everywhere. He's the franchise.

But I think Perry has more offensive upside. He's got the hockey sense to find the open space. He's not afraid to go to the dirty areas and pay the price to score points. He pisses the other team off and gets them off their game. He's got magic hands, both in a shot and in stickhandling. He's not a great skater, but he's shifty. It might take a couple years because Perry's not physically mature, but I expect more points out of him than Getzlaf. I'm just worried about all the huge hits he keeps taking.

Theridion
12-11-2007, 11:23 PM
Perry has a game... Physically offensive, verbally offensive, offensively offensive... He will only get better as he gains experience. He isn't the type of guy to hit the league with some surprising skill or talent that teams underestimate... at the same time...

You can't plan/defend against Perry.

DuklaNation
12-11-2007, 11:55 PM
Dave Andreychuk with more finesse, less in front of net physical play.

fogducker
12-12-2007, 12:30 AM
how is perry's speed

Pwnasaurus
12-12-2007, 12:51 AM
I told him I have no interest in perry, according to TSN he is a top 6 winger (aka could be as bad as a 3rd liner) or Jason Blake, lol


Pretty sure a top 6 winger according to them is a winger who can play within the top 6 forwards. AKA Top 2 lines.

Jezz*
12-12-2007, 01:41 AM
Perry's being underrated. IMO, from the circles in, he's one of the most dangerous players in the league. He has a terrific shot, can stickhandle around defensemen like Zherdev, has elite vision, plays physically and can't be intimidated. He's 22, working on a 40 goal season.

To me, he has 500 goals written all over him, barring injury.

If he can find a way to shake that sniper in the rafters.

Lyons71
12-12-2007, 02:45 AM
how is perry's speed

average. with the puck, a little above average, since most guys slow down a great deal when they control the puck.

SOBO
12-12-2007, 02:51 AM
Pretty sure a top 6 winger according to them is a winger who can play within the top 6 forwards. AKA Top 2 lines.


I don't think so, since they have a top six forward title as well,
top six winger I see as worse than top 6 forward, meaning the guy can play top 2 at the worst, top 6 winger to me means he has the chance on playing on the third line,

not that perry will be that guy, just saying.

any chance of you guys not signing him???

snarktacular
12-12-2007, 03:15 AM
FWIW, I interpret top 6 winger just as pwnasaurus does. And there's very little chance of the Ducks not signing him. Getzlaf and Perry were always tagged as the future of the franchise, and they've done nothing to dampen those expectations. I'm pretty sure they'd move just about anyone to keep him in the fold.


Since this has become somewhat of a Perry analysis thread, here's something interesting. I had always thought of Perry as being the future goal scorer between the two twins. Not really sure what it was based on as this was before I ever saw them play, and despite that fact that Perry scored 2:1 assists to goals in junior compared to Getzlaf's 1.2:1.

This year Perry's gone crazy with scoring goals and getting no assists. He's got 17 goals to 8 assists! Eerily similar to how Penner got 29 goals to 16 assists despite his seeming (to me at least) to be more of a playmaker than a goal scorer. I expect this to even out somewhat, but what gives that one member of that line seems to always have such imbalanced stats? Am I just that poor of a judge of what kind of player I'm seeing?

Chone
12-12-2007, 03:34 AM
Perry's being underrated. IMO, from the circles in, he's one of the most dangerous players in the league. He has a terrific shot, can stickhandle around defensemen like Zherdev, has elite vision, plays physically and can't be intimidated. He's 22, working on a 40 goal season.

To me, he has 500 goals written all over him, barring injury.

Am I missing a joke?

SOBO
12-12-2007, 04:08 AM
I dunno, there are only 2 wingers on a line, therefore 2 = line one, 4 = line two and 6 = line three, just the way i see it.

anywho thanks for the info about perry he looks pretty solid, don't get to see him much since he's in the west, but him and getz look like a nice pair, i just hope kunitzy can get in on that action once in a while, I got him in fantasy as well, lol

Datsyuk 13
12-12-2007, 05:00 AM
Am I missing a joke?
He means (Perry) can stickhandle like zherdev (that russian dude with sick hands)around defensemens so
Perry can stickhandle like zherdev around defensemens

Chone
12-12-2007, 05:08 AM
He means (Perry) can stickhandle like zherdev (that russian dude with sick hands)around defensemens so
Perry can stickhandle like zherdev around defensemens

yeah, i reread it, now it makes sense. thought he meant zherdev was a defender :D

Lyons71
12-12-2007, 06:03 AM
I dunno, there are only 2 wingers on a line, therefore 2 = line one, 4 = line two and 6 = line three, just the way i see it.

anywho thanks for the info about perry he looks pretty solid, don't get to see him much since he's in the west, but him and getz look like a nice pair, i just hope kunitzy can get in on that action once in a while, I got him in fantasy as well, lol

Top 6 winger refers to top two lines.

If you're a top pairing defenseman, you are on the top pair. You're not in the top two of your side. (equaling top 4)

Perry will never be bad enough to be a 3rd liner. He's got too much skill. He really has an uncanny ability when in close to the net, and if he scored half the time he made chances for himself, he'd be up there in the stat sheets. I expect him to fill out and be a better player, but i think Getz will always be better and always score more.

MOENing
12-12-2007, 11:28 AM
ok, i have a buddy of mine that won't stop bugging me about how good perry is,
it is slightly fantasy related, I have getz on my team, and he has a big hard on for him (who wouldn't) and he has perry, he wants getz or wants to give me perry

I told him I have no interest in perry, according to TSN he is a top 6 winger (aka could be as bad as a 3rd liner) or Jason Blake, lol

How good do you guys feel he is/will be, I've heard people say he's a grinder that has a good shot?

Personally i think getz deserves the credit for brinning success to that line, not perry.

Your thoughts?

I think that they depend on each other but I have never seen them on seperate lines for an extended period of time so I can't tell you what Getzlaf deserves. Perry is a good player judged by his Junior days. He likes to get in your face. However Getzlaf was pretty good in his junior days also from what I hear. They probably won't ever be seperated until one leaves the team.

theShiba
12-12-2007, 01:11 PM
He means (Perry) can stickhandle like zherdev (that russian dude with sick hands)around defensemens so
Perry can stickhandle like zherdev around defensemens

I think you're trying to say is ... "Defensemens is gonna get it." :sarcasm:

Pepper
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
More like grammar & spelling are gonna get it.

snarktacular
12-12-2007, 01:31 PM
Is this like a double negative? Is defensemens actually singular?

Ducks
12-12-2007, 02:29 PM
I'm not sure what it is about Perry. He is constantly falling down, and he falls on top of the other team's goalie at least once a game, he constantly talks crap to the other team, he looks really clumsy and nerdy yet he is probably the most consistent player on the team.

Even without Getzlaf he still put up points this season, Perry has a huge upside and is definitely underrated imo. The kid amazes me every game.

Chone
12-12-2007, 04:11 PM
Perry falling down is just something he does. He likes to lay on the ice from time to time. Just how he likes running into goalies and telling Pavel he's gonna get it.

Duckstudd269
12-12-2007, 11:13 PM
Top 6 winger refers to top two lines.

If you're a top pairing defenseman, you are on the top pair. You're not in the top two of your side. (equaling top 4)

Perry will never be bad enough to be a 3rd liner. He's got too much skill. He really has an uncanny ability when in close to the net, and if he scored half the time he made chances for himself, he'd be up there in the stat sheets. I expect him to fill out and be a better player, but i think Getz will always be better and always score more.

agreed.

Sojourn
12-13-2007, 06:26 PM
Downsides to Perry's game are his skating (which is the reason he falls so often. contact + weak skating = butt on ice syndrome) and his weak defensive game. I would never want him out there killing a penalty, and I'm often a little nervous when he has the puck in our own zone.

Diggy
12-13-2007, 06:41 PM
I really like Perry. He is one of the most exciting players to watch, he is always doing something when he is on the ice. Often he comes across as clumsy in the way he skates but then turns around and pulls off a brilliant move.

His checks are funny to watch as they are more of a "running into the other player" then it is a true "bodycheck". His technique is just brutal but he does get some big hits out of it.

The only other criticism I have for him is his pass reception / need to get shots off faster. If he had quick hands at getting shots off like Schneider he would be scary good.

Buck Naked
12-13-2007, 10:00 PM
Downsides to Perry's game are his skating (which is the reason he falls so often. contact + weak skating = butt on ice syndrome) and his weak defensive game. I would never want him out there killing a penalty, and I'm often a little nervous when he has the puck in our own zone.

I think he is quite good defensively actually, not Getzlaf good, but certainly not bad by any means.

snarktacular
12-13-2007, 10:22 PM
Actually I think Perry's like 6th in line for the PK. He was out killing penalties one game near the end of last year when Marchant was injured or something and one (or two) of the other penalty killers was in the box. Everyone was surprised, but after the game they said Perry was actually always part of PK practice all year and he's a spare forward for the PK.