Who is traded tomorrow (Tuesday)?

Who do you think it will be?

I say O'Donnell. It pains me to say that really, but I think that is what will happen.

I still believe it will be marchant with his 2.5contract

Marchant or O'Donnell. O'Donnell really does deserve to be a top 4 defenseman somewhere, but then again, he deserves to be on a team as good as the Ducks so I don't know. Marchant makes a lot of sense too if soembody would take him, but I think he might be a little too hard to move.

Why is Hnidy up there? He wouldn't clear enough salary unless someone else was also moved.

I'm gonna go with
http://www.weirdspace.dk/Jim%20Davies/Graphics/Odie.jpg

Kind of sad because he's a great team guy, and the one on the team I most expect to be a coach someday.

I'm not sure Marchant can be traded. (Crosses fingers and hopes for Phoenix to step up).

Aww! I have too many points to vote in polls. Now THAT'S a deterant to flaming.

I voted OD. Sad, but I think that's the way it will go down.

It would be nice if someone would take Marchant, but I doubt that. Not at 2.5 mil. We'd have to throw in a draft pick just to take him.

It really is too bad because not only is OD a great team guy, but he also works really well with Pronger and is so solid defensively. You never here "oh what a mistake by O'Donnell on that play."

Of-course, this could just be unnecessary worrying on my part. Hopefully anyway.

I mean, what a class act OD is. Just look at this quote.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-spw-duckrep8dec08,1,6941405.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks
"Some of us have kind of laughed about it," O'Donnell said. "We've never had a situation where something has to be done. It's always, 'Well, we think we're going to make changes.' Or you hear a lot of rumors of this or that. The way the CBA is laid out, something has to be 100% done.

"You can't blame Scotty for any of this. He did what he did and we respect his decision. He came to his decision and we're happy to have him back."

Aww! I have too many points to vote in polls. Now THAT'S a deterant to flaming.
Stupid Vancouver fans, right? I don't even remember what they were whining about. Pronger doing something?

Why is Hnidy up there? He wouldn't clear enough salary unless someone else was also moved.

I'm gonna go with
http://www.weirdspace.dk/Jim%20Davies/Graphics/Odie.jpg

Kind of sad because he's a great team guy, and the one on the team I most expect to be a coach someday.

I'm not sure Marchant can be traded. (Crosses fingers and hopes for Phoenix to step up).

He is a dman that can be packaged with any number low level player to clear the space without touching anyone "important", thats why.

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is my un-posting/lurker status not allowing me to vote in the poll? hahah.. i think Marchant goes

Why aren't some people allowed to vote in the poll?

I voted for Marchant because of his salary, but I think it also could be OD. I don't think the Ducks will get enough bang for their buck by trading Hnidy.

Do you think if push comes to shove, Bertuzzi and his $4M/year contract will go at some point in order to re-sign Perry before July 1? I know Bert is Burke's guy, but Perry has so much more upside and I think it would be a mistake to not re-sign him.

Marchant and his 2.5 millions contract is a pain in the ass and it' about time to get rid of it.

Why does someone have to be traded by Tuesday. But ya, i'll go with O'Donnell as well.

Aww! I have too many points to vote in polls. Now THAT'S a deterant to flaming.

What the hell did you ever do? That's horses***!

"Free Captain Bright Side" posters anyone?

Hoping for Marchant, but my gut instinct tells me it's OD. Probably to some Eastern team for a third.

I'm hoping Marchant gets dealt to Buffalo, though, even if it's for very, very little. It would be great to see Todd get to go back home and play out his last years for his hometown team.

I voted marchant but I;m always wrong.

I was reading one of Bobby Mac's blogs, and apparently Burke could've had a deal done days ago, like OD for a pick or Hnidy and May, but he's looking at making a "hockey trade", where he actually makes the team better. Schneider would be involved in that one. Also, WC said the Canes have a lot of interest in King Beauch, and would be willing to give up a top prospect. Looking at the Canes prospects, though, I'd rather not.

I was reading one of Bobby Mac's blogs, and apparently Burke could've had a deal done days ago, like OD for a pick or Hnidy and May, but he's looking at making a "hockey trade", where he actually makes the team better. Schneider would be involved in that one. Also, WC said the Canes have a lot of interest in King Beauch, and would be willing to give up a top prospect. Looking at the Canes prospects, though, I'd rather not.

Can I have a link to read the blog because it sounds interesting.

I still think Schneider makes the most sense provided someone can take on his salary for a number of reasons:

1. He was signed to replace Niedermayer and with a similar but much better player returning, it makes sense that the former would be going

2. He is not one of the long timers and thus I think all things being equal Burke would rather deal the guy that didn't win the ring last year although it's probably not the best situation in the world to sign a guy and then trade him during the same calendar year.

3. The fact that one of the larger salaries will be moved in a deal involving Schnieder would allow the Ducks to be able to add to the current lineup as well instead of just making a move to dump a smaller salary to pick up a pick and get under the cap.

It's probably the best and most logical transaction to move Schnieder with a Nieds return provided of course they can find a dance partner.

On the Scotty front, we still haven't heard officially whether he's coming back Wednesday night or Friday night (or later). We also aren't hearing who will be dealt to make room for him. But it is encouraging to hear that the Ducks only need to clear about $880,000 in salary, after many had thought the figure was closer to $3 million.


Thats encouraging but he forgot to mention that Burke wants to sign Perry. I believe that Perry should be asking for a high price.

What makes me sad about possibly trading O'Donnell is that he signed here in the offseason because he liked it (the place and the organization) so much that he didn't want to test the UFA waters. I remember reading a blurb about how happy he was to be here and was more than willing to re-sign because he enjoyed playing here so much. :(

I know it's a business, but it just sucks sometimes.

What makes me sad about possibly trading O'Donnell is that he signed here in the offseason because he liked it (the place and the organization) so much that he didn't want to test the UFA waters. I remember reading a blurb about how happy he was to be here and was more than willing to re-sign because he enjoyed playing here so much. :(

I know it's a business, but it just sucks sometimes.

Here are some quotes:

O'Donnell, 35, gladly forfeited a shot at unrestricted free agency and accepted a pay cut from $1.634 million, the average annual value of his previous contract, to $1.25 million in order to remain with the Ducks.

"It's still great money to do what we do," O'Donnell said. "Who knows how much you could get on the open market? It's just a good fit. Money wasn't the primary thing. I love it here. I love the way we play. I love the guys.

"I'm at a point in my career where I want to win. Once Anaheim came with what I felt was a fair offer, I jumped at it."

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/abox/article_1742532.php

Knowing Burke he probably won't trade a guy who took a paycut to play here, but what else is there to do? I think trading Schneider hurts the return we get from Niedermayer. Don't get me wrong, Scott is a very noticable upgrade from Schneider, but he's an absolutely huge upgrade over O'Donnell.

Having said that, trading Schneider could let us sign Perry earlier and cheaper than otherwise, and that's huge. We really need to lock up Perry. If only so that I may sleep at night.

Here are some quotes:



http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/abox/article_1742532.php



Oh man thats brutal. What a guy. I hope he stays now for sure.

Im a pessimist, i guess Beauch.:(

I'm so torn on this issue.

I agree trading Schnieder still gives us an upgrade, but doesn't seem like as a big of a deal as keeping him and nieds.

For me, it comes down to return. I am not talking about who would give us the best return... but more likely, who gives us the best value vs who we are trading... Although I think OD and Schnieds both are about the same value on the trade market... maybe OD is a small notch higher.

I'm hoping it's Marchant...

A) Expensive for 4th line center
B) We just grabbed Sutherby to fill that role
C) Frees up a decent amount of salary without siginificantly affecting the team

Here's my worry. Although it's been said (even by myself) that Selanne can sign fine without tagging issues because it'll be a 1 year deal... that's actually not entirely established.

The scary part is that the tagging rule applies to "any Player transactions requiring Payroll Room, including but not limited to, acquiring an SPC or "extending" or entering into a new SPC." the including but not limited to part is the scary part. Signing Teemu to a 1 year deal should still be fine, because any cap space he takes up this year would be subtracted from next year's space but his expiring contract would also be added to tagging credit.

But the scary part is that callups from the minors might be included as a transaction that "requires Payroll room." By only moving the 900k, it might mean we'd only be able to callup/move down players with expiring contracts. So it might be prudent to move more. But it's also possible that those kinds of moves don't count and I'm making a fuss about nothing.

I'm hoping it's Marchant...

A) Expensive for 4th line center
B) We just grabbed Sutherby to fill that role
C) Frees up a decent amount of salary without siginificantly affecting the team
I agree it would be very nice to move Marchant and free up that space. But in regards to your point B, I have some concerns about Sutherby.

1) He's injured his groin, which might be an aggravation of the terrible groin injury he's had before.
2) While Sutherby's a 4th line center, I'm not sure he's a replacement for Marchant in terms of being a faceoff guy for the 2nd unit PK or in terms of being as good defensively.

I think Schneider and Marchant go to Chicago for Perrault and either a pick or prospect.

I think Schneider and Marchant go to Chicago for Perrault and either a pick or prospect.

If the prospect is Cam Barker, yes, if not NO! If the pic is CHI 1st maybe if not NO!

Nieds - Beauchemin
Pronger - Barker
Huskins - O'Donnell
DiPenta

Looks fine for me, also the future top 6 with

Barker - Pietrangelo (yes we will get him ;) )
Beauchemin - Mitera
Mikkelsson - Festerling

look nice too!

I think Schneider and Marchant go to Chicago for Perrault and either a pick or prospect.

I'm a Yanic fan. He'd be a great pickup. Best faceoff man in the league. What's his contract look like?

I agree it would be very nice to move Marchant and free up that space. But in regards to your point B, I have some concerns about Sutherby.

1) He's injured his groin, which might be an aggravation of the terrible groin injury he's had before.
2) While Sutherby's a 4th line center, I'm not sure he's a replacement for Marchant in terms of being a faceoff guy for the 2nd unit PK or in terms of being as good defensively.

Last year Marchant was out. I think that well do fine for the time Sutheerby will be gone from the ducks. You could possibly put miller on the 2nd PK unit.

I think Schneider and Marchant go to Chicago for Perrault and either a pick or prospect.
I could live with that. Yanic's a former King though... I'm not sure I'm happy with that. I'd hope for a good prospect/pick though. 2nd to 3rd tier. And I'm not sure Chicago has the cap space.

I could live with that. Yanic's a former King though... I'm not sure I'm happy with that. I'd hope for a good prospect/pick though. 2nd to 3rd tier. And I'm not sure Chicago has the cap space.

Schneider and Parros are former Kings as well...

I extremely doubt Beauchemin. All of the others are pretty likely, I voted Hnidy with Marchant a close second.

Schneider and Parros are former Kings as well...
I'm well aware of that. As was O'Donnell, and Bylsma a few years prior. Stupid ex-Kings.

Well it's just past 5 EST. Does central registry close at 5, and thus any trade that happens today must have been filed by now? Or does this have no effect whatsoever?

I guess it's wait and see if there was a trade today or not.

I believe that Burke will move a defensman. If not, we will have eight players playing defense and two scratches every night. So, one defenseman will go. For the price DePenta fits the bill as a 7th D-man. So, I believe it's between Hnidy, O'Donnell, Huskins or Beauchemin. My guess, because of the salaries allotted for D-men that it's between OD & Beauch.

I like Marchant but not at 2.5 million. If we move a forward, what about moving Brad May? I would prefer Marchant rather than May. May does not add all the dimensions thad Marchant gives us.

Ek says a deal will be announced soon. Just thought I'd let y'all know.

Ek says a deal will be announced soon. Just thought I'd let y'all know.
I get the impression he's just paraphrasing the Ducks Blog, who at 12:30 (Pacific time?) said they expect an announcement later today. It's not that he has any more direct sources.

And on the other side of the coin, in that same blog he says Scott will not be playing on Wednesday. This may mean Burke will wait another couple days.

I'm a Yanic fan. He'd be a great pickup. Best faceoff man in the league. What's his contract look like?

UFA after this year

I vote for none of the above to get traded by Tuesday. I think it will either go all the way up to Dec 18th (the last day of trading before the Xmas moritorium) or someone will be temporarily waived (e.g. Marchment).

Atlanta just cleared out a couple roster spots by sending players to the minors, one of whom has to clear waivers. Maybe they are the trading partner? I know Recci is going to be added to the roster, but why the other spot, especially for a guy who has to clear waivers? Must mean something is brewing in the very near future.

No one will want Marchant at his salary. If he goes, it will be via waivers to the AHL. You might find a taker for Schneider, but will have to take some salary back. Beauchemin will have many suitors, but with his contract and skill, the Ducks would be crazy to deal him.

I vote for none of the above to get traded by Tuesday. I think it will either go all the way up to Dec 18th (the last day of trading before the Xmas moritorium) or someone will be temporarily waived (e.g. Marchment).

Marchant

Marchant

Some people call him Marchment as a nickname.

Ek says a deal will be announced soon. Just thought I'd let y'all know.

oh, so now we can definitely not expect a deal to get done today.

And I voted OD

Outsiders view:

O'Donnell. It would be a catastrophe if Burke moved FB now when it's a buyers market, and I think he'll have trouble moving Schneider's contract. Next guess would be Marchant. But I doubt anyone really wants him enough. I give the nod to O'Donnell because everyone (except you :)) needs/wants/could use a defenseman.

No one will want Marchant at his salary. If he goes, it will be via waivers to the AHL. You might find a taker for Schneider, but will have to take some salary back. Beauchemin will have many suitors, but with his contract and skill, the Ducks would be crazy to deal him.

jordan staal :walrus:

A grinder at 2.5, and another year, is untradable. If Burke unloads that, he deserves GM of the year.

If it's a simple trade, Im going with OD, probably for a 6th or 7th. Of course it gets much more complicated involving multiple players.

still waiting?

I will be traded on Tuesday.

Hello guys ,what do you think about O'Donnell to Ottawa ? Murray signed Donovan,Robitaille (Ottawa natives) and he is in search for a D-man ...would be a 3rd pick enough to grab O'D ?
He will play top minutes on a contender team and don't forget , he is an Ottawa native

Hello guys ,what do you think about O'Donnell to Ottawa ? Murray signed Donovan,Robitaille (Ottawa natives) and he is in search for a D-man ...would be a 3rd pick enough to grab O'D ?
He will play top minutes on a contender team and don't forget , he is an Ottawa native

I think he is worth more than a 3rd.

Okay look....all things being equal the best option is to ditch Marchant....

but Marchant makes to much and is to useless to be attractive...

So you deal Marchant and a 3rd round pick or prospect for some crap minor leaguer someone wants to ditch on us...

Then you can have all of

Niedermayer
Pronger
Beauch
Schneider
O'Donnell
Huskins

what a killer Top 6...

Ah, there was no "no one will be traded tomorrow" option in the poll...

I still believe it will be marchant with his 2.5contract

if he waives his no trade clause--he still has one--I think--even though he sort of got traded from the jackets

Ek says a deal will be announced soon. Just thought I'd let y'all know.

Eklund must be ****ing psychic!:amazed:

if he waives his no trade clause--he still has one--I think--even though he sort of got traded from the jackets
A no-trade clause is also voided by waiving. This isn't an issue.

Hello guys ,what do you think about O'Donnell to Ottawa ? Murray signed Donovan,Robitaille (Ottawa natives) and he is in search for a D-man ...would be a 3rd pick enough to grab O'D ?
He will play top minutes on a contender team and don't forget , he is an Ottawa native
Yeah that's roughly what I'd expect for him in a trade. Possibly even less just because Burke has to move someone.

Ah, there was no "no one will be traded tomorrow" option in the poll...
Ha, I thought the same thing.

if he waives his no trade clause--he still has one--I think--even though he sort of got traded from the jackets

Does Marchant have a no trade clause? Can he still be waived though?

Dumping Schneider would be a mistake unless we get a scoring forward in the process. Matty has been the best offensive threat of the D, and right now scoring is just as big of an issue as defense. Sure getting right of Marchant is the best thing we could do, but not sure if anyone would bite on it. Burke would be GM of the year if he dumped Marchant somehow.

The way Burke has been positioning this in the media is as if he has people breaking down his office door just to make a trade with him.

I'm pretty skeptical that this is true, and I think you're more apt to see a player AND a draft pick get traded away. One of those deals where it's like, "here's a 2nd round draft pick, now take some of our cap" away.

I say we dump Brad May and Hnidy, neither one really helps the team that much to a point that that couldn't be replaced easily.

Why do you need to dump. are you over the NHL cap ?

Why do you need to dump. are you over the NHL cap ?

I'm not the expect on the situation but it has to do with NEXT years cap and already being over the cap for next year. It's a term called "tagging" and brining Scotty back for this year has no current salary cap issues. But because he is signed thru next year, along with a couple extensions that occurred means the Ducks are already over the cap for next year, eventhough they are under it for This year. It's not allowed, so they MUST trade a player, and that player must have a contract that would bring cap relief for next year.

I'm not the expect on the situation but it has to do with NEXT years cap and already being over the cap for next year. It's a term called "tagging" and brining Scotty back for this year has no current salary cap issues. But because he is signed thru next year, along with a couple extensions that occurred means the Ducks are already over the cap for next year, eventhough they are under it for This year. It's not allowed, so they MUST trade a player, and that player must have a contract that would bring cap relief for next year.
????
Maybe I'm OTL on this one, but I thought contract salaries were averaged out for the term of the contract (for salary cap purposes); hence you can't be under the cap this year and project to be over next year (since any contracts signed through next year should have the identical salary cap impact).

What the heck. Hasn't it been explained numerous times the past few days? Are people really that unable to look up the ANY article describing Niedermayer's impending return and how it works under the cap? And if you didn't care then when it was described multiple times why do you care now?

http://tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=224467
http://tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=224549

What the heck. Hasn't it been explained numerous times the past few days? Are people really that unable to look up the ANY article describing Niedermayer's impending return and how it works under the cap? And if you didn't care then when it was described multiple times why do you care now?

http://tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=224467
http://tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=224549

thanks for the info. I had no idea how it worked.
so 3M needs to be moved. thats actually a decent size $ amount.
i would guess that it will just be that a $ dump. so dont look to get much value in return i guess.
good luck guys =)

I have a feeling someone is going to take Marchant's contract and get Beauchemain as the main part of the deal.

Schneider isn't going anywhere...who's got the space? Pittsburg, Columbus, Washington, and Phoenix maybe?

thanks for the info. I had no idea how it worked.
so 3M needs to be moved. thats actually a decent size $ amount.
i would guess that it will just be that a $ dump. so dont look to get much value in return i guess.
good luck guys =)

Actually, only about 880,000 dollars needs to be moved.

I say we dump Brad May and Hnidy, neither one really helps the team that much to a point that that couldn't be replaced easily.

I say we also dump Sutherby,Parros,Moen and O'Donnell and start playing in Disney skirts again. :shakehead
Did you even watch last years playoffs?

I have a feeling someone is going to take Marchant's contract and get Beauchemain as the main part of the deal.


How about Columbus, and you guys get Fedorov in return :)

Schneider isn't going anywhere...who's got the space? Pittsburg, Columbus, Washington, and Phoenix maybe?

It's not so much the space, but the motivation. For simplicity's sake, say 60% of Schneider's contract remains for this season. That'd be ~3.375 million that the acquiring team would have to pick up for this season.

nhlnumbers.com has an approximation of how much cap space each team has left: http://www.nhlnumbers.com/compare.php?type=capspace&order=ASC

A lot of teams have the theoretical cap space to add Schneider, teams would just need the motivation to do it. New Jersey would be a perfect candidate except that Schneider would be really pushing the cap.

New poll: Is there EVER going to be a trade?

im watching ott vs car and glen healeys commentating on game and said a schneider to carolina trade makes alot of sense . its just his outlook , not a rumor .
he says schneider is just what carolina needs .

I'm going to the game on Friday so they better not delay this past tommorow! :(

Oh, but like Burke said, the phones are just ringin' off the wall with people clamouring to do a deal with the Ducks, and he's got several deals on the table. As Yogi would say, "It's Deja Vu all over again". Wait for the waiver wire everyone, that's where you're going to see Burke's big move.

Wait for the waiver wire everyone, that's where you're going to see Burke's big move.


Im calling dibs on this for a new sig.

im watching ott vs car and glen healeys commentating on game and said a schneider to carolina trade makes alot of sense . its just his outlook , not a rumor .
he says schneider is just what carolina needs .

Yeah, no offense, but that means nothing. A lot of teams could use Schneider.

I say we also dump Sutherby,Parros,Moen and O'Donnell and start playing in Disney skirts again. :shakehead
Did you even watch last years playoffs?

Tsn had something saying the Ducks could trade Hindy and May and have enough space. May is awesome, and I really like him being on the team, but I wouldn't shed a tear if he's traded. I mean if Marchant can't be moved then where does May fit in? Parros has outplayed May by far this season IMO, both on the fight card and skill level. I really doubt that Marchant gets traded, so where does that leave May when the team is healthy? Platt is playing well so I doubt he's sent down. However, I'd much rather get rid of Dipenta then Hindy.

Does anyone else think Moen might be the odd man out? 900k is what he makes, and if he's moved for a 3rd then we're fine. Lines would look something like this:

Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Platt-McDonald-Bertuzzi
Sutherby/Marchant-Pahlsson-R.Niedermayer
May-Sutherby/Marchant-Parros

Sutherby or Marchant could take Moen's spot on the checking line. I still think O'D will be the one traded but Moen leaving could be a big possibility.

I say we also dump Sutherby,Parros,Moen and O'Donnell and start playing in Disney skirts again. :shakehead
Did you even watch last years playoffs?

And just what did you bring to this discussion?

Yes, as a matter of fact I did watch the playoffs, and let me tell you Hnidy was a sight for sore eyes, he played a ton of minutes for us, didn't he?

And Just how many minutes does May bring? 4 a game?

Are we even in the playoffs yet?

As the OP stated, who do you think. I think what I thought and don't need you to point out nothing in particular but to put down what I have to say.

Tsn had something saying the Ducks could trade Hindy and May and have enough space. May is awesome, and I really like him being on the team, but I wouldn't shed a tear if he's traded. I mean if Marchant can't be moved then where does May fit in? Parros has outplayed May by far this season IMO, both on the fight card and skill level. I really doubt that Marchant gets traded, so where does that leave May when the team is healthy? Platt is playing well so I doubt he's sent down. However, I'd much rather get rid of Dipenta then Hindy.
Actually depending on the replacements, trading those two probably wouldn't be enough. They both need to be replaced by somebody, and actually a lot of the most ready callups cost MORE than them. I'm not sure what's St. Jacques' salary, but Salcido would costs 850k AND he's not an expiring contract. Carter costs 850k, but at least his contract expires after the season.

But in order for that to work, at minimum, one player would have to be replaced by a player whose salary expires, and the other by a minimum salary cheaper player.

Actually depending on the replacements, trading those two probably wouldn't be enough. They both need to be replaced by somebody, and actually a lot of the most ready callups cost MORE than them. I'm not sure what's St. Jacques' salary, but Salcido would costs 850k AND he's not an expiring contract. Carter costs 850k, but at least his contract expires after the season.

But in order for that to work, at minimum, one player would have to be replaced by a player whose salary expires, and the other by a minimum salary cheaper player.

hmm didn't think about that. I wonder why tsn would even mention those two then.

Does anyone else think Moen might be the odd man out? 900k is what he makes, and if he's moved for a 3rd then we're fine. Lines would look something like this:



I doubt Burke will break up the shut-down line.

Burke likes Moen too much to trade him for a pick. There are other options.

I doubt Burke will break up the shut-down line.

Burke likes Moen too much to trade him for a pick. There are other options.

There's a lot of other options but I definitely think it's worth noting and there's a big possibility it could happen.

There's a lot of other options but I definitely think it's worth noting and there's a big possibility it could happen.

Hey you never know, but I'd be surprised.

I doubt Burke will break up the shut-down line.

Burke likes Moen too much to trade him for a pick. There are other options.

I think the thing that makes it even more of a possibility is Sutherby being brought in. No way is Marchant traded with that contract. Is Platt sent down?

show of hands

who thought the deal would happen by now?

Does anyone else think Moen might be the odd man out? 900k is what he makes, and if he's moved for a 3rd then we're fine. Lines would look something like this:

Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Platt-McDonald-Bertuzzi
Sutherby/Marchant-Pahlsson-R.Niedermayer
May-Sutherby/Marchant-Parros

Sutherby or Marchant could take Moen's spot on the checking line. I still think O'D will be the one traded but Moen leaving could be a big possibility.
I've thought about it. I've mentioned Moen a couple times as possibilities. Moen should have decent demand, and Burke should be able to get decent value for him. And Miller is being groomed to take his spot, although it'll probably be a year or two before he'll be ready.

Although depending on how the tagging accounting works, Moen actually might not be enough. It depends on if the credit is prorated or not. If it is, then actually O'Donnell might not be enough.

ive got a feeling all the gm's are really torturing burke .
its like " hey rutherford this is burks , you got any interest in marchant " ,
" ya bry i do , give me marchy plus the oils #1 for my #5 " :naughty:
then rutherford calls up murray and says " man i just put burks through hell " ,
murray goes " good job , im gonna torture him too . dont help that s.o.b. hes already got the cup , dont give him another one . " .

ive got a feeling all the gm's are really torturing burke .
its like " hey rutherford this is burks , you got any interest in marchant " ,
" ya bry i do , give me marchy plus the oils #1 for my #5 " :naughty:
then rutherford calls up murray and says " man i just put burks through hell " ,
murray goes " good job , im gonna torture him too . dont help that s.o.b. hes already got the cup , dont give him another one . " .

That freaking hilarious. Caps fan here! I'm happy Sutherby is getting in some games. I think Odie will get traded. If you bring back a D, the chances are you trade a D out.

Tsn had something saying the Ducks could trade Hindy and May and have enough space. May is awesome, and I really like him being on the team, but I wouldn't shed a tear if he's traded. I mean if Marchant can't be moved then where does May fit in? Parros has outplayed May by far this season IMO, both on the fight card and skill level. I really doubt that Marchant gets traded, so where does that leave May when the team is healthy? Platt is playing well so I doubt he's sent down. However, I'd much rather get rid of Dipenta then Hindy.

Hnidy and May are signed for next year. DiPenta becomes a UFA next year. As I understand or misunderstand the "tagging" rule the payroll set for next year on this years signed players cannot exceed this year's Cap based on next year's fixed salaries. Thus, getting rid of DiPenta IMO does not give us any relief.

This then looks like a trade is definitely in the works. Putting Hnidy or May alone on waivers will not solve the problem. The team cannot aford to put Marchant on waivers. He offers them too many options. I definitely believe one D-Man will go. We will have eight players on defense if we don't move one of them and DiPenta will not be one of them IMO.

If we go the waiver route then I would put Hnidy and May on waivers if they can't be traded.

And just what did you bring to this discussion?

Yes, as a matter of fact I did watch the playoffs, and let me tell you Hnidy was a sight for sore eyes, he played a ton of minutes for us, didn't he?

And Just how many minutes does May bring? 4 a game?

Are we even in the playoffs yet?

As the OP stated, who do you think. I think what I thought and don't need you to point out nothing in particular but to put down what I have to say.

i sense a bandwagon fan looking at your profile listing the Kings as your favorite team What you brought to the table in this thread is non-sense. "Dump May and Hnidy" Wow you should be a gm. If you don't know what May brought during the playoffs other then "4 min" then you shouldn't be posting in a Duck thread and you know nothing about hockey.

ive got a feeling all the gm's are really torturing burke .
its like " hey rutherford this is burks , you got any interest in marchant " ,
" ya bry i do , give me marchy plus the oils #1 for my #5 " :naughty:
then rutherford calls up murray and says " man i just put burks through hell " ,
murray goes " good job , im gonna torture him too . dont help that s.o.b. hes already got the cup , dont give him another one . " .

The problem is, do you really think a GM is acting like that? Sean O'Donnell is a cheaply signed and very useful defenseman, and he can be had for below market value for a defenseman of his calibre. So, you think all the other 29 GMs out there will pass on him just to spite Burke? Of course not.

Burke's problem can be solved by Brian Burke sending Todd Marchant to Portland. If he gets claimed along the way, even better. If not, Todd gets to go play out East. Problem solved. Now, Burke and the Ducks ownership wouldn't pull a move like sending a very useful player to the minors to skirt a cap issue, but they don't have to let the rest of the league know that. Burke, with his prior comments in the media, especially about Trent Klatt, have of course projected Burke as an *******, the type of ******* who would do that, even. Thus, these GMs can't take the chance to miss a guy that will help their team for less than normal value. If they do, they're idiots. And if they try and outbluff Burke, knowing he won't send Marchant to Portland, he can just go and deal May and Hnidy to some random team that'll take them, and he still keeps OD. Again, problem solved, and it's the other 28 teams that lose out.


As for what I think will happen, I will not be surprised to see Michael Ryder play for this team sometime this weekend. He was scratched last night, which some Habs fans found curious, as it gave them a chance to roll with 3 scoring lines for once. Their unit of forwards also features Mark Streit and Mathieu Dandenault, two natural defensemen, making the move even more curious. I could see a Ryder for O'Donnell, or even Ryder and Smolinski for OD and Marchant and maybe a pick going down as soon as tomorrow. I think it helps both teams(Montreal needs PK help bad, and IMO could use a physical dman), and solves some previously unsolves issues. Thoughts?

i sense a bandwagon fan looking at your profile listing the Kings as your favorite team What you brought to the table in this thread is non-sense. "Dump May and Hnidy" Wow you should be a gm. If you don't know what May brought during the playoffs other then "4 min" then you shouldn't be posting in a Duck thread and you know nothing about hockey.

While I love May, and have even gone as far as saying that without him we don't win, I don't think trading him is a bad idea. He did contribute, but not as much as, say, OD, or maybe even Marchant despite the injury. Youngsters like Miller and Suts can replace him hopefully. I've also been impressed with Hnidy, but he does make sense to go. With Niedermayer to return, he'd probably be #7 anyway unless OD goes. It'd be better for us and for him to get him somewhere where he'd play.

The problem is, do you really think a GM is acting like that? Sean O'Donnell is a cheaply signed and very useful defenseman, and he can be had for below market value for a defenseman of his calibre. So, you think all the other 29 GMs out there will pass on him just to spite Burke? Of course not.

Burke's problem can be solved by Brian Burke sending Todd Marchant to Portland. If he gets claimed along the way, even better. If not, Todd gets to go play out East. Problem solved. Now, Burke and the Ducks ownership wouldn't pull a move like sending a very useful player to the minors to skirt a cap issue, but they don't have to let the rest of the league know that. Burke, with his prior comments in the media, especially about Trent Klatt, have of course projected Burke as an *******, the type of ******* who would do that, even. Thus, these GMs can't take the chance to miss a guy that will help their team for less than normal value. If they do, they're idiots. And if they try and outbluff Burke, knowing he won't send Marchant to Portland, he can just go and deal May and Hnidy to some random team that'll take them, and he still keeps OD. Again, problem solved, and it's the other 28 teams that lose out.


As for what I think will happen, I will not be surprised to see Michael Ryder play for this team sometime this weekend. He was scratched last night, which some Habs fans found curious, as it gave them a chance to roll with 3 scoring lines for once. Their unit of forwards also features Mark Streit and Mathieu Dandenault, two natural defensemen, making the move even more curious. I could see a Ryder for O'Donnell, or even Ryder and Smolinski for OD and Marchant and maybe a pick going down as soon as tomorrow. I think it helps both teams(Montreal needs PK help bad, and IMO could use a physical dman), and solves some previously unsolves issues. Thoughts?

I don't know (1) Montreal's cap situation or, assuming there is no cap issue, (2) their willingness to take on additional salary, but your trade proposal makes sense. It might require a little "tweaking", but I like your reasoning.

Nieds isnt playing tonight so the waiting game will continue for potentially two more days.

As for what I think will happen, I will not be surprised to see Michael Ryder play for this team sometime this weekend. He was scratched last night, which some Habs fans found curious, as it gave them a chance to roll with 3 scoring lines for once. Their unit of forwards also features Mark Streit and Mathieu Dandenault, two natural defensemen, making the move even more curious. I could see a Ryder for O'Donnell, or even Ryder and Smolinski for OD and Marchant and maybe a pick going down as soon as tomorrow. I think it helps both teams(Montreal needs PK help bad, and IMO could use a physical dman), and solves some previously unsolves issues. Thoughts?

Dandenault, like Markov, is a natural forward.... both were transfered to defense... Markov while still in Russia; Dandenault by Scotty Bowman who was using his speed both at F and D.

While the category may be "HINDSIGHT IS 20/20" - I'll take NONE OF THE ABOVE for 1000, Alex ;)