What happened to Lundqvist?

EJS280
12-06-2007, 06:55 PM
I'm not just talking about tonight either as pretty much every game from Dallas on except maybe vs the Islanders, he has let in at least one softy. He's rebound control has been average even on the human level, and he looks like hes been getting help from Valliquette on his 5 hole coverage. A lot of ones just sliding through his legs and what not. I'm sure its just a bad stretch, but I would have gone with Vally after the way he played in Toronto.

*As I'm typing this I see there putting Valliquette in for the 3rd.

The Thomas J.
12-06-2007, 06:56 PM
Pulled! Benched!

ThirdEye
12-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Probably confidence issues again

pruuu
12-06-2007, 07:06 PM
I am soo frusterated with this team already. The have no will. They r skating like they hate weights in their skates.

theMessiah1194
12-06-2007, 07:08 PM
he's fine, goalies aren't going to be wall every game, they go through streaks where they're awesome and sometimes they're off. The team is giving him NOTHING!!!!!!! we need to score more than 2 goals a game if we're going to get anywhere, can't always bank on only letting in 1 or 2. He's fine to me, maybe a bit tired, but the team stinks!!!

pruuu
12-06-2007, 07:10 PM
^^Main point the team stinks. Trade Jagr,Gomez, Straka, Drury all the fowards and make the team all defensemen maybe we will score more then 2 goals a game then.:shakehead

AGraveOne
12-06-2007, 07:22 PM
^^Main point the team stinks. Trade Jagr,Gomez, Straka, Drury all the fowards and make the team all defensemen maybe we will score more then 2 goals a game then.:shakehead
ha! that is hilarious.

i can't figure out where the forward production is. It is friggin crazy and yet so typical of the ole blue.

I think Gomez is a Lamoriello operative and he is planting seeds of discord within the team.

pruuu
12-06-2007, 07:32 PM
ha! that is hilarious.

i can't figure out where the forward production is. It is friggin crazy and yet so typical of the ole blue.

Yea. I know people say that Renny is good. But to some extent someone needs to be blamed for this. He is the "leader" of the team. I know Jagr is the captain, but thats a whole other rant that you don't want me to get into. Basically Renny was handed a plate of gold and he has flushed it down the toilet. Inefficient line making and terrible work ethic. I think the team looks winded EVERY game by the third period. The last two games the have sucked and the lines aren't changed. Thats bad. Get Dubinsky off the top line and put him on the third with Prucha and Callahan and put Drury on the top line. Notice how all of Drurys goals come on the power play? He needs to be on a line with players of his caliber so he can fish for rebounds and capitalize. The named third line would be fast and productive but the move would also allow for the top line to become the force it should be. Also Malik needs to go. I know people say he is the scape goat but he is not good. Watching him he looks like his first concern is to not get in the way and his second is to play defense. I can't remember the last time I saw him check someone hes a joke. The team also needs leadership. Right now the only ones I see stepping up are the 4th and 3rd line. Listening to the names you hear coming from the announcers mouth watching a Rangers game you could easily think wow this team can solely make up the Eastern Conference All- Star team. However looking at their play on the ice im pretty sure Hartford would have put forth a equal effort versus Carolina and Toronto ( a team we should have *****. Their goalie is not good). Thats my rant for now. Flame away.

PruBlue25
12-06-2007, 07:34 PM
Jagr's a bum, the top two lines play with no heart. The defense stinks because Staal is off the first pair. They stink.

Smashley
12-06-2007, 07:39 PM
this is what happens when you pull a hot goalie at the tampa bay game, kill his mental strength.


and your defense is in a coma.

Staal0708
12-06-2007, 07:40 PM
Yea. I know people say that Renny is good. But to some extent someone needs to be blamed for this. He is the "leader" of the team. I know Jagr is the captain, but thats a whole other rant that you don't want me to get into. Basically Renny was handed a plate of gold and he has flushed it down the toilet. Inefficient line making and terrible work ethic. I think the team looks winded EVERY game by the third period. The last two games the have sucked and the lines aren't changed. Thats bad. Get Dubinsky off the top line and put him on the third with Prucha and Callahan and put Drury on the top line. Notice how all of Drurys goals come on the power play? He needs to be on a line with players of his caliber so he can fish for rebounds and capitalize. The named third line would be fast and productive but the move would also allow for the top line to become the force it should be. Also Malik needs to go. I know people say he is the scape goat but he is not good. Watching him he looks like his first concern is to not get in the way and his second is to play defense. I can't remember the last time I saw him check someone hes a joke. The team also needs leadership. Right now the only ones I see stepping up are the 4th and 3rd line. Listening to the names you hear coming from the announcers mouth watching a Rangers game you could easily think wow this team can solely make up the Eastern Conference All- Star team. However looking at their play on the ice im pretty sure Hartford would have put forth a equal effort versus Carolina and Toronto ( a team we should have *****. Their goalie is not good). Thats my rant for now. Flame away.
shanny, drury, jagr, gomez, straka = i believe 8 stanley cups:shakehead

pruuu
12-06-2007, 07:40 PM
Jagr's a bum, the top two lines play with no heart. The defense stinks because Staal is off the first pair. They stink.

Us Prucha fans think alike:yo:. Pretty much the team is too slow not physical enough and frankly they dont look like they give a ****. I think Rangers fans have more heart then the team. Hell if we didn't the Rangers would have just about as many fans as the Devils do right now. The Rangers don't deserve fans like us.

EJS280
12-06-2007, 08:06 PM
Its amazing how ugly the team looks when Lundqvist doesn't play like a God. Prucha, Drury, Callahan, Orr, Betts, and Hollweg are the only ones that look like they give a sh*t, and Hossa has also been playing pretty hard. If Prucha remembered how to put the puck in the net him and Callahan together would be the best 2 players on the team bar none. Why don't we just throw Marc Staal up front?

AGraveOne
12-06-2007, 08:08 PM
disciplined own zone coverage...build from there. Star players have trouble doing that, although these guys HAVE DONE it this season. But it isn't quite good enough unless it leads to goals from turnovers and patience.

It is difficult to watch another team of overpaid stars not put it together...very difficult to not panic - want a BIG change.

I like the team ok. I do think they should put the top talent on the top 2 lines - no question.

n8
12-06-2007, 08:12 PM
Oh My GoDD! I CAn't Beleive He Gotd Pulled!!!1 And Onlez Aftar Juz Too Peeruds!!!

:shakehead :sarcasm:

NYROrtsFan
12-06-2007, 08:13 PM
The worst part about the team losing is the people who come out of the woodwork and start blaming the people they just don't like, rather than actually having a decent opinion on anything.

By some of the comments, you'd wonder why the team should even be playing because it's clear that they just stink so bad that it is a waste of time. Jeez... Just look at what you are seeing on the ice and be honest. Henrik is not playing at his best, the team has little jump out there, Dubinsky has been awful the last two games and it's hurt his line, Strudwick is too slow, and they weren't taking the body early enough.

TheMetalChick*
12-06-2007, 08:13 PM
Its amazing how ugly the team looks when Lundqvist doesn't play like a God. Prucha, Drury, Callahan, Orr, Betts, and Hollweg are the only ones that look like they give a sh*t, and Hossa has also been playing pretty hard. If Prucha remembered how to put the puck in the net him and Callahan together would be the best 2 players on the team bar none. Why don't we just throw Marc Staal up front?
I know what you mean. When Ricky isnt on his game, forget it... the little problems a great goalie keeps covering become glaring.

I do think its funny that they have both cooled off at the same time... maybe its the weather? Got me. Either way, both the Rangers AND the Isles have something oddly fundamental in common- as their goalie goes, they go... far more so than most teams.


Lundqvist is going to be FINE. Seriously. Dont even worry about it.

danno2530
12-06-2007, 08:16 PM
Man, it's two bad games. He was very solid against both the Islanders and Senators. The whole team has played like crap and maybe if the defense actually helped him out once in a while, he wouldn't have to stand on his head.

He'll be fine. The whole team sucks right now. Every team has it's ups and downs. Just look at Ottawa.

AlwaysARanger
12-06-2007, 08:37 PM
He'll be fine. The whole team sucks right now. Every team has it's ups and downs. Just look at Ottawa.[/QUOTE]

Some teams (Vancouver, Calgary, Rangers) rely more than others on their goaltender. Ottawa don't.

_AC_
12-06-2007, 08:44 PM
ever since he didnt get that shutout he's been a bit off.

robruckus
12-06-2007, 08:55 PM
The difference has been this team has been committing turnovers in the defensive zone and neutral zone the past two games. Add that with a lack of passion for 60 minutes and you get the results we've seen the past two games. Lundy usually bails us out when we make mistakes like that because we haven't been making them on a regular basis this year, the defense has been a strong point. But the past two games there have been far too many mistakes. He can only bail us out so many times. The team will be fine. They've played terribly the past two games. All of you whiners just get off the bandwagon already. You're all so annoying. Teams have bad stretches during the year. This is the first time all season the team has lost 2 straight games in regulation. You all annoy the hell out of me.

94now
12-06-2007, 09:04 PM
Another demo that this team is nothing without Lundqvist and Jarg. That is to note for all those Shanny-Dru-Pru-Gommer lovers.

Well, in the previous years prior to re-build this team was just nothing with or without anyone, including Mess and Leetch. That is, certainly, a progress.:yo:

On the positive side, if Lundqvist continue to play as poorly as he does, he may cost us less. January is a few weeks away. His slump may cost him, in other words. :(:shakehead

alkurtz
12-06-2007, 09:15 PM
Seriously guys....Henrik is going thru a period in which he is fighting the puck and giving way too many rebounds. When he's on, he seems to absorb pucks, when he's off, he gives rebounds. Many of the goals he has given up recently were after long rebounds.

Why is this happening? Who knows...its kind of like a batting slump in baseball. Even after 150 years of analysis, discussion, and thought, if you ask a player how he got into a slump or how to get out of it, they'll shrug their shoulders and say they don't know. Often its not mechanics and with goalies its not technique. It just is. I know that is an unsatisfying answer, but slumps are a great mystery.

When you're a batter in a hot streak the ball looks as big as a beach ball, when you are in a slump, it seems like a pea. Same with goalies and pucks.

My concern is that with an emotional, perfectionist goalie like Henrik, that a few bad games starts to undermine his confidence and the slump tends to continue: this is what happened at the start of last year. To compensate, he began playing deeper in the net, which only led to more problems. And then one day, he woke up and the slump was over.

When Henrik slumps, the rest of the team tries too hard too overcompensate and ends up making defensive errors. With young D, its easy for them to lose confidence also.

The whole league seems streaky this year; if Ottawa can lose 7 in a row, so can we....a scary thought with so little wiggle room in the conference.

The question is: does Renney rest him or play him tomorrow vs Atlanta?

Dagoon44
12-06-2007, 09:22 PM
Its amazing how ugly the team looks when Lundqvist doesn't play like a God. Prucha, Drury, Callahan, Orr, Betts, and Hollweg are the only ones that look like they give a sh*t, and Hossa has also been playing pretty hard. If Prucha remembered how to put the puck in the net him and Callahan together would be the best 2 players on the team bar none. Why don't we just throw Marc Staal up front?

Play like a God After the last few games i would settle for Steve Weeks. The guy was horrible again tonight. Confidence issues? Get thhe F@@@ out of NY in that case. I love the Rangers and to be honest I think Hank is great but not elite he has not won one single thing when it counts in the NHL.

AGraveOne
12-06-2007, 09:39 PM
The difference has been this team has been committing turnovers in the defensive zone and neutral zone the past two games. Add that with a lack of passion for 60 minutes and you get the results we've seen the past two games. Lundy usually bails us out when we make mistakes like that because we haven't been making them on a regular basis this year, the defense has been a strong point. But the past two games there have been far too many mistakes. He can only bail us out so many times. The team will be fine. They've played terribly the past two games. All of you whiners just get off the bandwagon already. You're all so annoying. Teams have bad stretches during the year. This is the first time all season the team has lost 2 straight games in regulation. You all annoy the hell out of me.
agreed.

I don't see how you can blame Lundqvist. This game...maybe so. But overall the team ain't working with the system...

And further...the Rangers are good....i think they will have the ups and downs...let's hope they get something working offensively. It would sure be nice to see some player moves pay off in a BIG way for once.

DontStaal
12-06-2007, 09:42 PM
Play like a God After the last few games i would settle for Steve Weeks. The guy was horrible again tonight. Confidence issues? Get thhe F@@@ out of NY in that case. I love the Rangers and to be honest I think Hank is great but not elite he has not won one single thing when it counts in the NHL.

your right :sarcasm:, the only thing he's won is the trust and love from the fans, but hey what does that count for? Oh, and consecutive 30+ win seasons.


:shakehead

robruckus
12-06-2007, 09:45 PM
Play like a God After the last few games i would settle for Steve Weeks. The guy was horrible again tonight. Confidence issues? Get thhe F@@@ out of NY in that case. I love the Rangers and to be honest I think Hank is great but not elite he has not won one single thing when it counts in the NHL.


Disclaimer: This comment coming from someone with a Colton Orr avatar and a Jason Strudwick signature.


You hear that Hank? You're a bum.

klingsor
12-06-2007, 10:01 PM
Too many :bow: Lundqvist Threads by Ranger fans on The NHL Talk Board.

They should stop now and he'll be great again.

Dagoon44
12-06-2007, 10:15 PM
Disclaimer: This comment coming from someone with a Colton Orr avatar and a Jason Strudwick signature.


You hear that Hank? You're a bum.

Ok now I am forced to go off on you. Colton Orr is a favorite of mine on this team whats the big deal? You act as if you could do his job. Your a ass clown if for one second You feel you are a NHL player. Why does who i root formean so much to you? Get off my jock man,Now to hank he has played like crap thelast few games and I pointed it out. You acted like iinsulted your mother. He is a hockey player man get over it ok? He stinks the last few games I said i think he is great but not lately, Grow up and by the way the Man crush on Hank can make it weird

robruckus
12-06-2007, 10:27 PM
Ok now I am forced to go off on you. Colton Orr is a favorite of mine on this team whats the big deal? You act as if you could do his job. Your a ass clown if for one second You feel you are a NHL player. Why does who i root formean so much to you? Get off my jock man,Now to hank he has played like crap thelast few games and I pointed it out. You acted like iinsulted your mother. He is a hockey player man get over it ok? He stinks the last few games I said i think he is great but not lately, Grow up and by the way the Man crush on Hank can make it weird



I am the Sean Avery of this message board. Only you can't cheap shot me when I get under your skin. If you like Sean, then you like me.

Also, it is immaterial to me what players on the Rangers you like. You appear to be the one with the man crush. Which is fine. I just find it humorous that someone whose favorite player is a guy with 3 career goals, has it in him to call out one of the top goaltenders in the league, and the main reason our team is at the top of the conference standings. Just me though. Sorry to push your buttons.

Olorin
12-07-2007, 12:01 AM
Ok now I am forced to go off on you. Colton Orr is a favorite of mine on this team whats the big deal? You act as if you could do his job. Your a ass clown if for one second You feel you are a NHL player. Why does who i root formean so much to you? Get off my jock man,Now to hank he has played like crap thelast few games and I pointed it out. You acted like iinsulted your mother. He is a hockey player man get over it ok? He stinks the last few games I said i think he is great but not lately, Grow up and by the way the Man crush on Hank can make it weird

It appears the adage "it takes one to know one" has never been more applicable.

JA#11
12-07-2007, 04:48 AM
Rests seem to cool Lundy down After he got a rest in the Toronto game it took him a few games to get to how good he was in Tampa and now after Vally played in the Florida Game Lundqvist hasn't been the same.

Shadowtron
12-07-2007, 06:53 AM
To be honest, I’m more upset by the fact that, once again, our offensive leaders were no-shows. Hank will bounce back. He’s had a couple of stinkers, but I think with a game or two off and some solid practices, he’ll get his head back into it relatively quickly. But, regardless of the way Hank is playing, if this team can’t find a way to start putting pucks in the net consistently, if it can’t find a way to convert on the man-advantage, then we are dead in the water.

robruckus
12-07-2007, 07:19 AM
To be honest, I’m more upset by the fact that, once again, our offensive leaders were no-shows. Hank will bounce back. He’s had a couple of stinkers, but I think with a game or two off and some solid practices, he’ll get his head back into it relatively quickly. But, regardless of the way Hank is playing, if this team can’t find a way to start putting pucks in the net consistently, if it can’t find a way to convert on the man-advantage, then we are dead in the water.


And it's weird cause tonight the powerplay wasn't even the problem. What I don't get is how this team can look so domninant for that last stretch of the first period and then revert back to being dead the rest of the game. You guys remember the Islander game towards the end of last year where they had fifty something shots and absolutely DOMINATED for sixty minutes (without DiPietro the Rangers might've scored 10 that night)? Why can't this team get it in them to play like this on a consistent basis? When they bring their A game there is no one in this league that scares me. It's frustrating because we all know how much potential they have, and when they don't play up to it it is deflating. This team really doesn't have guys who can find the net. It's like the defensemen are the only ones whose shots go in once in a while. The Prucha/Drury/Cally line has been good IMO the past few games but what good is that if they still can't score? Everyone always says oh it will translate to goals sooner or later. Will it? I mean, will it?

TheMetalChick*
12-07-2007, 07:31 AM
And it's weird cause tonight the powerplay wasn't even the problem. What I don't get is how this team can look so domninant for that last stretch of the first period and then revert back to being dead the rest of the game. You guys remember the Islander game towards the end of last year where they had fifty something shots and absolutely DOMINATED for sixty minutes (without DiPietro the Rangers might've scored 10 that night)? Why can't this team get it in them to play like this on a consistent basis? When they bring their A game there is no one in this league that scares me. It's frustrating because we all know how much potential they have, and when they don't play up to it it is deflating. This team really doesn't have guys who can find the net. It's like the defensemen are the only ones whose shots go in once in a while. The Prucha/Drury/Cally line has been good IMO the past few games but what good is that if they still can't score? Everyone always says oh it will translate to goals sooner or later. Will it? I mean, will it?

I understand what youre saying, but that game last March was tied 1-1 up until the shootout... and I dont think that is considered "completely dominating" by anyones definition. I have seen the Rangers dominate games, and the game youre referring to was not really the greatest example of that. Honestly- if that same game happened now against a different team, many of you would be mad at how ineffective their SOG were- no matter how great the goalie played.

Anyway, I do understand your goal frustration- we are in the same boat. But, at least you have a top group of guys that are already proven goalscorers and 1st liners. Once that core gets it together, the Rangers will be fine no matter what the other guys are doing. The Isles on the other hand need every guy on the team to contribute and be on their A game- since they dont really have a top group like that, a complete team effort is the only possible key to success.

robruckus
12-07-2007, 07:45 AM
I understand what youre saying, but that game last March was tied 1-1 up until the shootout... and I dont think that is considered "completely dominating" by anyones definition. I have seen the Rangers dominate games, and the game youre referring to was not really the greatest example of that. Honestly- if that same game happened now against a different team, many of you would be mad at how ineffective their SOG were- no matter how great the goalie played.

Anyway, I do understand your goal frustration- we are in the same boat. But, at least you have a top group of guys that are already proven goalscorers and 1st liners. Once that core gets it together, the Rangers will be fine no matter what the other guys are doing. The Isles on the other hand need every guy on the team to contribute and be on their A game- since they dont really have a top group like that, a complete team effort is the only possible key to success.




I gave credit where it was due and that was to DiPietro. If you watched the game (it was on March 5th of last year) you should know that the Rangers DOMINATED it. DiPietro had a total of 57 saves that game. The Rangers never stopped coming the entire night. DiPietro SINGLE HANDEDLY kept the Islanders in that game. Did the Rangers dominate on the scoreboard? Obviously not. But my point is that if you play with that type of desperation (the same kind that Renney talks about ALL THE TIME) every night you're going to be the better team on the ice every single game. To try and debate that the Rangers were not far superior to the Islanders on that night is ludicrous. The Islanders only goal came in the first period on a Blake PP goal. I'd say most teams aren't generating the same kind of chances when they're shorthanded. I gave credit to DP, as he was the only one who deserved it for your team that night. If the Rangers played that way every night you'd be lucky to ever leave one match up with the single point Ricky stole for you last year. And that, is fact.

Shadowtron
12-07-2007, 07:53 AM
I gave credit where it was due and that was to DiPietro. If you watched the game (it was on March 5th of last year) you should know that the Rangers DOMINATED it. DiPietro had a total of 57 saves that game. The Rangers never stopped coming the entire night. DiPietro SINGLE HANDEDLY kept the Islanders in that game. Did the Rangers dominate on the scoreboard? Obviously not. But my point is that if you play with that type of desperation (the same kind that Renney talks about ALL THE TIME) every night you're going to be the better team on the ice every single game. To try and debate that the Rangers were not far superior to the Islanders on that night is ludicrous. The Islanders only goal came in the first period on a Blake PP goal. I'd say most teams aren't generating the same kind of chances when they're shorthanded. I gave credit to DP, as he was the only one who deserved it for your team that night. If the Rangers played that way every night you'd be lucky to ever leave one match up with the single point Ricky stole for you last year. And that, is fact.

Don't think we need to turn this into a discussion about a year old game. I think your point is pretty clear, regardless of the example you used. This team CAN perform at a very high level, but so seldom does.

TheMetalChick*
12-07-2007, 07:56 AM
I gave credit where it was due and that was to DiPietro. If you watched the game (it was on March 5th of last year) you should know that the Rangers DOMINATED it. DiPietro had a total of 57 saves that game. The Rangers never stopped coming the entire night. DiPietro SINGLE HANDEDLY kept the Islanders in that game. Did the Rangers dominate on the scoreboard? Obviously not. But my point is that if you play with that type of desperation (the same kind that Renney talks about ALL THE TIME) every night you're going to be the better team on the ice every single game. To try and debate that the Rangers were not far superior to the Islanders on that night is ludicrous. The Islanders only goal came in the first period on a Blake PP goal. I'd say most teams aren't generating the same kind of chances when they're shorthanded. I gave credit to DP, as he was the only one who deserved it for your team that night. If the Rangers played that way every night you'd be lucky to ever leave one match up with the single point Ricky stole for you last year. And that, is fact.


Ricky steals lots of points for the Isles when he is on top of his game (like Lundqvist does for the Rangers). But Rick is a member of the team, and the Rangers couldnt get more than one goal past him. The point is that I dont think that was the prime example of a team dominating a game. Dominating opportunities? Definitely. Giving a point to your division rival is not the greatest example of domination... and no matter what happens in a game, its the outcome that matters in the end. There are much better examples of the Rangers dominating- you only remember that particular game because of who you were playing and Ricks spectacular performance!

blue2noise
12-07-2007, 07:57 AM
Play like a God After the last few games i would settle for Steve Weeks. The guy was horrible again tonight. Confidence issues? Get thhe F@@@ out of NY in that case. I love the Rangers and to be honest I think Hank is great but not elite he has not won one single thing when it counts in the NHL.


man you guys are such a fickle bunch. Over an 82 game season everyone has their slumps. I can't believe some of the clueless comments on this thread.

"He hasn't won a single thing when it counts in the NHL." ??

Dude..He's been here like three years. It takes a whole team to win a cup and it sometimes takes forever to win. Richter spent the rest of his career chasing another cup.

You people really need to step back and chill with this knee-jerk reaction crap after every few bad games.

la cosa nostra
12-07-2007, 08:01 AM
I think Henrik was hurt by Brodeur's words when he brought up DiPietro's name as being a dominant goaltender (before he mentioned Lundqvist). ;)

No...seriously...Lundqvist will be fine. He's one of the best in the business.

SingnBluesOnBroadway
12-07-2007, 08:05 AM
He had a bad game. And when he made mistakes, nobody picked him up.

94now
12-07-2007, 08:14 AM
To be honest, I’m more upset by the fact that, once again, our offensive leaders were no-shows. Hank will bounce back. He’s had a couple of stinkers, but I think with a game or two off and some solid practices, he’ll get his head back into it relatively quickly. But, regardless of the way Hank is playing, if this team can’t find a way to start putting pucks in the net consistently, if it can’t find a way to convert on the man-advantage, then we are dead in the water.

One correction: we are dead on ice. Right on the money otherwise!
I wouldn't blame the players. The effort was there, yet we looked grim.
I've got bad news: we do not have LW to play with Gomez and his RW Mr. Shanahan sucks due to his age. Neither Dawes or Hossa are up to Avery skill wise. Thus, our 2nd line is incomplete. We have no other choice other then play Hossa, but Gomez do not let him carry the puck making himself an easy target.
Our 3rd line with Drury is in fact the 4th line sine Betts plays against top opponents. That line needs a power forward. Leafs looked like giants when they stopped our small wingers like Prucha.
Having said all of that, if Dubi was able to get that left top corner of the net, the entire game result could be different.
As for Lundqvist, he is no good against the Leafs. Vally should be given a nod to begin with.

Dagoon44
12-07-2007, 09:15 AM
man you guys are such a fickle bunch. Over an 82 game season everyone has their slumps. I can't believe some of the clueless comments on this thread.

"He hasn't won a single thing when it counts in the NHL." ??

Dude..He's been here like three years. It takes a whole team to win a cup and it sometimes takes forever to win. Richter spent the rest of his career chasing another cup.

You people really need to step back and chill with this knee-jerk reaction crap after every few bad games.


he is terrible when bad. He is great when he is great. Hank doesn't have that middle of the road game. Look we are all fans and root for the same team but the fact you people are obessed with Hank is Scary. I loved Ritcher he was a God in this city and the nation when we won world cups and stuff but when he was bad he let in 65 footers and we lost. he was about to be traded out of town

alkurtz
12-07-2007, 09:23 AM
Rests seem to cool Lundy down After he got a rest in the Toronto game it took him a few games to get to how good he was in Tampa and now after Vally played in the Florida Game Lundqvist hasn't been the same.

Agreed, I've noticed that also. I think many of you need to calm down; sure its upsetting to see Henrik struggle a bit and contribute to our losing games. But, to assume that he would be able to play at the level he was at a few weeks ago for an entire year is unrealistic. All the great goalies struggled occasionally but snap out of it.

What is of more concern is now that he is struggling a bit he is not being picked up by the rest of the team. Our forwards can't seem to score into the Atlantic Ocean while standing on the beach. I have a real bad feeling about tonight.

94now
12-07-2007, 09:23 AM
he is terrible when bad. He is great when he is great. Hank doesn't have that middle of the road game. Look we are all fans and root for the same team but the fact you people are obessed with Hank is Scary. I loved Ritcher he was a God in this city and the nation when we won world cups and stuff but when he was bad he let in 65 footers and we lost. he was about to be traded out of town

I second that. Well done. This should put it to rest. Steve is the middle we need.

robruckus
12-07-2007, 09:42 AM
he is terrible when bad. He is great when he is great. Hank doesn't have that middle of the road game. Look we are all fans and root for the same team but the fact you people are obessed with Hank is Scary. I loved Ritcher he was a God in this city and the nation when we won world cups and stuff but when he was bad he let in 65 footers and we lost. he was about to be traded out of town

Okay, that first part makes no sense to me. But he doesn't have any middle of the road games? 13 times he's given up 2 or 3 goals this year. That's not middle of the road? I'd say that's dead smack in the middle. No one here is stating anything that proves to be obsessive towards lundqvist. It's just hilarious that you're criticizing the back bone of this team and reason why we're at the top of the conference right now. Name one reason why the fans of this team shouldn't be crazy about Henrik? Have you seen what he's done the past few years? Have you looked at his statistics? Save the criticism for people worthy of it. How bout Orr contributing something to this team for once? He did get a nice welt on his face last night though. Good for him.

billyH2O
12-07-2007, 09:48 AM
He's fine. He can't hold your team EVERY game. The team has been pretty bad, and once in awhile he's going to buckle too. I can't blame some of the Carolina goals against him, esp. the first. In fact, that first might have just sent him into a bad mood.

He'll swing out of it, he's a great goalie. Your team just needs to step it up for a game or two, and he'll be fine. Lol... the sky is falling! Ha, I can't be a hypocrite... some fans on the Devils boards were the same way. Your team is very good, its just our division and conference for that matter is seriously tight this year.

BenIgnorant
12-07-2007, 10:13 AM
Goalies aren't perfect...just relax. Some games even the best goalies let in a softy or two. No one should be concerned about Lundqvist (other than if he's injured...not that he is, but if he was), and there's nothing to change the situation for the better either.

The rest of the team is a legitimate concern.

blue2noise
12-07-2007, 10:31 AM
he is terrible when bad. He is great when he is great. Hank doesn't have that middle of the road game. Look we are all fans and root for the same team but the fact you people are obessed with Hank is Scary. I loved Ritcher he was a God in this city and the nation when we won world cups and stuff but when he was bad he let in 65 footers and we lost. he was about to be traded out of town

Youre missing my point. The guy is bad for what? 10 regular season games a year? No player has perfect seasons. not even Marty. Not even Roy.

I hate coming to these boards after a few losses because you really see the impatient fans that fail to see the big picture of a season.

nyrJeff
12-07-2007, 10:36 AM
:nopity:

Chimp
12-07-2007, 12:41 PM
Play like a God After the last few games i would settle for Steve Weeks. The guy was horrible again tonight. Confidence issues? Get thhe F@@@ out of NY in that case. I love the Rangers and to be honest I think Hank is great but not elite he has not won one single thing when it counts in the NHL.
Yeah! That should tell him! And by the way, who is that bum Luongo? He's not elite, because he has bad games and hasn't won one single thing when it counts in the NHL. Why is he still even in the league?

ThirdEye
12-07-2007, 12:43 PM
I honestly can't think of one goalie this season that didn't have a major rough patch. If you can, tell me who it is

ThirdEye
12-07-2007, 12:44 PM
Play like a God After the last few games i would settle for Steve Weeks. The guy was horrible again tonight. Confidence issues? Get thhe F@@@ out of NY in that case. I love the Rangers and to be honest I think Hank is great but not elite he has not won one single thing when it counts in the NHL.

You're right. He didn't bring us a Stanley Cup after two years in the NHL Boy what a bust

Maybe you should reconsider which team you root for

NYR6814
12-07-2007, 12:48 PM
Yeah let's trade Lundqvist. He's garbage now. He spends too much time looking into the glass making sure the scoreboard lights hit the color of his eyes perfectly.


/sarcasm.

Bluenote13
12-07-2007, 12:56 PM
Ok now I am forced to go off on you. Colton Orr is a favorite of mine on this team whats the big deal? You act as if you could do his job. Your a ass clown if for one second You feel you are a NHL player. Why does who i root formean so much to you? Get off my jock man,Now to hank he has played like crap thelast few games and I pointed it out. You acted like iinsulted your mother. He is a hockey player man get over it ok? He stinks the last few games I said i think he is great but not lately, Grow up and by the way the Man crush on Hank can make it weird

You would never expect that Goon is an ex pro-wrestler ;)

Come on Goon, Richter had alot of bad games his first few seasons, people have selective memories.

EJS280
12-07-2007, 01:02 PM
Wow I did not realize me starting this thread would create so much crazyness. It appears that some of you just read the title and responded without even reading what I said.
Some of your "OMGZZ GET RIDDD OF HIM HESS TERRIBLE:sarcasm:" comments make you sound like a bunch of 5 year olds. I never said hes done for, his careers over, hes so bad lets just trade him for a 4th rounder. I simply stated that I have noticed that since he got pissed about that goal against Tampa and got sat the next game, he doesn't look like he really wants to be out there. Every game since he has let in at least one softy, I'm not just talking about last night which it seems some of you think I am with the "One bad game blahh blahh blah".
I was just making a little observation, and never did I say us sucking was because of him. Only a handful of players are showing up each night, and those are mainly guys who couldn't hit the net from 5 feet away. Lundqvist playing a little off just makes me much more aware of how this team is really not looking good.