GDT: 12/6 • Toronto Maple Leafs @ New York Rangers • 7PM • MSG

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7:00 PM
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN

TV: MSG
Radio: ESPN 1050 AM




RECORDS
RANGERS -- 32 points, 1st place - Atlantic Division (tied) - G/G 2.18; GA/G 1.96 - 9-5-0 at Home
MAPLE LEAFS -- 28 points, 4th place - Northeast Division - G/G 3.00; GA/G 3.29 - 5-6-1 on Road



TEAM LEADERS

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RANGERS -- Shanahan 9 goals; Jagr/Gomez, 14 assists; Jagr 21 points; Orr, 44 PIM.
MAPLE LEAFS -- Sundin, 13 goals; 21 Assists and 34 points; Bell, 39 PIM.



STARTING GOALTENDERS:

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(21 GP, .903 SV%, 2.93 GAA, 1 SO, 9-8-3) ~ Vesa Toskala Henrik Lundqvist ~ (14-10-1, 4 SO, 1.91 GAA, .927 SV%, 25 GP) ~


SPECIAL TEAMS
TORONTO .. RANGERS
12.6% - 29th - PP - 21st - 15.3%
81.1% - 20th - PK - 5th -- 87.7%
2 -- SHG -- 2



SHOOTOUT
TORONTO .. RANGERS
3 losses, 0 wins - 29th - W/L - 5th - 3 wins, 2 losses
.400 - 25th - SV% - 3rd - .875
20.0% - 25th - S % - 22nd - 26.7%


LAST MEETING:
November, 10th 2007:
Maple Leafs 2, Rangers 3
@ Air Canada Centre
Rangers backup goalie Stephen Valiquette finally got the call to start a game - just so happens it was
the Hall of Fame Game, and he made the most of his opportunity. Valiquette turned away 32 shots in a stellar performance,
and Brendan Shanahan and Marcel Hossa scored back-to-back goals in an overtime shootout
as the Rangers edged Toronto 3-2 for the season's first road victory.



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Things did not go our way last night with all the Atlantic teams getting points, and the Devils coming back from 3-0 and tying the Rangers with 32 points.

Time to take back the division.

Toronto has been playing well but this is a game the Rangers should win, at home.

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7:00 PM
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN

TV: MSG
Radio: ESPN 1050 AM




RECORDS
RANGERS -- 32 points, 1st place - Atlantic Division (tied) - G/G 2.18; GA/G 1.96 - 9-5-0 at Home
MAPLE LEAFS -- 28 points, 4th place - Northeast Division - G/G 3.00; GA/G 3.29 - 5-6-1 on Road



TEAM LEADERS

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RANGERS -- Shanahan 9 goals; Jagr/Gomez, 14 assists; Jagr 21 points; Orr, 44 PIM.
MAPLE LEAFS -- Sundin, 13 goals; 21 Assists and 34 points; Bell, 39 PIM.



STARTING GOALTENDERS:

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(21 GP, .903 SV%, 2.93 GAA, 1 SO, 9-8-3) ~ Vesa Toskala Henrik Lundqvist ~ (14-10-1, 4 SO, 1.91 GAA, .927 SV%, 25 GP) ~


SPECIAL TEAMS
TORONTO .. RANGERS
12.6% - 29th - PP - 21st - 15.3%
81.1% - 20th - PK - 5th -- 87.7%
2 -- SHG -- 2



SHOOTOUT
TORONTO .. RANGERS
3 losses, 0 wins - 29th - W/L - 5th - 3 wins, 2 losses
.400 - 25th - SV% - 3rd - .875
20.0% - 25th - S % - 22nd - 26.7%


LAST MEETING:
November, 10th 2007:
Maple Leafs 2, Rangers 3
@ Air Canada Centre
Rangers backup goalie Stephen Valiquette finally got the call to start a game - just so happens it was
the Hall of Fame Game, and he made the most of his opportunity. Valiquette turned away 32 shots in a stellar performance,
and Brendan Shanahan and Marcel Hossa scored back-to-back goals in an overtime shootout
as the Rangers edged Toronto 3-2 for the season's first road victory.



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Im gonna say 6-3 Rangers. Goals by Callahan, Prucha, Straka, Jagr, Hossa and Tyutin Is it confirmed that Lundqvist is in net???

important game cause other teams are closing in on us.

Bad night with Philly and the Devils winning..would be nice if the Devils could lose A game.

Tough spot here, Toskala has owned us.

It worked last week twice, let's try it again:

9-0 Leafs. 79 save shutout by Toskala.

Not often that a team is worse than us in both PP and PK's.

Anyway...Shanny hat trick and a 5-1 win.

I'll take a win any way I can get it, at this point. We need to keep up with the division, and toronto is a game we *can* win. And it's so nice to see other loonies up as late as I am, though I'm actually working

i say rangers should play valiquette tonight

Let's Go Rangers!!!:yo:

December is my favorite non-playoff month to attend ames at MSG.

We rebound just like the Canes did against us. No way in hell we come out flat tonight.

Lundys gets stuck in traffic, and Vally has a severe case projectile vomiting. Renney dons the pads and the boys win 3-0.

December is my favorite non-playoff month to attend ames at MSG.

We rebound just like the Canes did against us. No way in hell we come out flat tonight.

Lundys gets stuck in traffic, and Vally has a severe case projectile vomiting. Renney dons the pads and the boys win 3-0.

Hahahaha... oh man... we've got a long way to go, we haven't even hit all star week yet.

Lets Go Rangers! :yo:

cmon Rangers... pick up the W

I'm surprised no one picked up on the wrong date i posted in the GDT...

Changed.

cmon boys! cant fall behind in the standings....anyone know if Mara is going to play tonite?

With Avery out who's gonna make Tucker cry?

Lundys gets stuck in traffic

Heh, it's just 2.5 miles, he can walk :)

cmon boys! cant fall behind in the standings....anyone know if Mara is going to play tonite?

it doesn't look like it according to Newsday

stinks that Avery's out. I'm going to miss this game and tomorrows, I'm pissed. Horrific night last night, the Bruins blew it, they stink, the isles got a point and philly won, need to get these two wins here.

LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6-2 Rangers

Rangers should not be looking for any help from the standings. Man the parity in the NHL can not be denied.

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rangers


Dear Rangers:

18,000 fans and I were at the game on Monday, and will be there again tonight. Please show up this time!!!!!
Thank you.

Sincerly,
WB

Rangers should not be looking for any help from the standings. Man the parity in the NHL can not be denied.

Yeah its crazy, especially the Atlantic. They should give out a mini Cup to whoever wins the division.

And please don't call it the Hummer Metro Ice Challenge Cup.

I do not want there to be an insane number of Leafs fans there like there were last time. That was ridiculous.

Let's Go Rangers!!!!! Rock The Leafs Tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!

C'mon boys, let's have a HUGE rebound game tonight!

I do not want there to be an insane number of Leafs fans there like there were last time. That was ridiculous.

It's the Maple Leafs. That's how it is. It says a lot more about their fans then it does about ours. Get used to it if you're not already.

It's the Maple Leafs. That's how it is. It says a lot more about their fans then it does about ours. Get used to it if you're not already.

There will be fewer, however, because it is not a weekend. Hey, good for them for being well connected.

Same line-up tonight.Paul Mara is healthy enough to play but Renney is staying the same defense pairs from Monday

Paul Mara is still out so you can expect the same lineup tonight against the Leafs. Tom Renney said Mara was more or less fit to play, so the scratch tonight is a coach’s decision. Tomorrow in Atlanta remains a possibility, however.

As for Lundqvist, don’t be surprised if you see him playing back-to-back games tonight and tomorrow in Atlanta. Renney sounded like that’s where he was leaning. And you figured if you were going to see Stephen Valiquette, you’d see him tonight against the Leafs, whom he’s already had success against.

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Same line-up tonight.Paul Mara is healthy enough to play but Renney is staying the same defense pairs from Monday





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would be nice to give vally a shot with back-to-back.. he's shown he can handle the leafs ;)

would be nice to give vally a shot with back-to-back.. he's shown he can handle the leafs ;)

nah, play henrik, he needs to bounce back, not saying it was his fault, but the team played ugly last game

would be nice to give vally a shot with back-to-back.. he's shown he can handle the leafs ;)

If the Rangers win tonight, they might give Vally a shot tomorrow night. Then Hank back at home against the Devs on Sunday. And after that, they only have one game in the next six days.

If the Rangers win tonight, they might give Vally a shot tomorrow night. Then Hank back at home against the Devs on Sunday. And after that, they only have one game in the next six days.

id put lundqvist vs the thrashers and Vally tonight.

id put lundqvist vs the thrashers and Vally tonight.

Rather give Lunqvist two full days rest before the Devils come in. Division rival. Tied for first. Bigger game. He plays tonight, he gets two full days of rest. If he plays tomorrow, he gets one day of rest (and they are travelling).

I'm going with

Lundqvist
Lundqvist
Lundqvist

Lundqvist's gotta get these upcoming starts. He hasnt looked like he's been in his usual rhythm like the early season, and can only get that with playing time.

And after that, they only have one game in the next six days.


damm...time to get myself a new book...six looonggg daysss

Only if Hank has a bad night, would I consider putting Vally in on Friday.

Not as punishment, of course.

as always HockeyBasedNYC, great job with the GDT :handclap:

Need to start picking up some wins boys.... lets go!

Lets Go Rangers!!!!

Lets Go Rangers!!!!

Great first post. Welcome aboard.

This is my first post from an actual computer in months. I can't tell you how happy I am. The Rangers will surely win tonight as a result.

Now for an avatar...

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I agree, play Lundqvist. The only nights he has struggled, were strangely enough the nights where he rested the game before. Sort of came out of his groove or something.

I expect a much, much better performance from this team tonight, than the pitiful display against Carolina.

i dont think we should be preoccupied with the standings per se, just wins and playing well..

I agree, play Lundqvist. The only nights he has struggled, were strangely enough the nights where he rested the game before. Sort of came out of his groove or something.


And besides is very unusual for him to have to bad games in a row.

So I think it is good for him (and thereby the team) to play as again as possible after a stinker.

I think some of Lundqvist's struggles might because we are scoring goals :amazed:

Seriously, if you look at his numbers you will see that he's much better in close, low-scoring games. The Rangers should wait until the last 5 minutes of the game to score their goals ;)

And besides is very unusual for him to have to bad games in a row.

So I think it is good for him (and thereby the team) to play as again as possible after a stinker.

jinx!

:teach:

Jagr will score with his wrister from the slot, Shanny on the PP with a one-timer in the slot from Jags, Roszival on a diff PP on his cut in move to the far post, and Toots will score as the trailer on the rush. mark it. championship.

4-1 final

Play better than last game and pull out 2 points, I don't care if it's by 1 goal or 15.

Scott Gomez scoring breakout night!
5-0 Rangers (Gomez, Gomez, Gomez, Callahan, Gomez)!

Rather give Lunqvist two full days rest before the Devils come in. Division rival. Tied for first. Bigger game. He plays tonight, he gets two full days of rest. If he plays tomorrow, he gets one day of rest (and they are travelling).

Yea, but Lundqvist hasn't been good after a rest. So I wouldn't risk it when first place is on the line.

rangers win 4-2

drury

antropov

blake

jagr

shanahan

straka

Hossa hasn't scored a goal since february last season. Jesus Christ, I didn't know it was that bad. :shakehead

Drop the puck. NY better come to play tonight, and redeem themselves

Lets go Rangers big:handclap: night for the 3rd line

I'll say 3-2 Rangers...

Goals by, Jagr, Girardi, Shanahan

Orr and Belak will drop the gloves.

On another note, what exactly is the purpose of our third line? It's not a scoring line, what have they produced after a third of the season, one goal total? They aren't a defensive line, because they usually not play defense against the opponents' top line, that's the job of the 4th line. They're not an energy line, because they aren't hitting particulary much.

So, what are they? A "let's rest the other lines" line?

Well, its nice to know that we've came out with a lot of energy :(

Wake up rangers

This team sucks so bad right now.

Stajin scores on a rebound...

Betts to the box, great start...

Aaaaaargh! Idiots! How about letting two guys rush the puck holder, leaving no one with Stajan? He was frigging skating between the hash marks, it's not like he was invisible or anything. It is coming to the point where I think I would play better positional defense than the Rangers right now.

Who was that right defenseman? Girardi?

Hossa hasn't scored a goal since february last season. Jesus Christ, I didn't know it was that bad. :shakehead

He did get 1 or 2 in the playoffs though

Yeah boys! This is the way to start the game after that pathetic non-effort last night!

dick magoo is gonna call everything on us tonight

Dubinsky to the box

dick magoo is gonna call everything on us tonight

Yerp....:shakehead

dick magoo is gonna call everything on us tonight
Nooooo! This isn't happening. Not only do we have to not have a clue about the fundamentals in hockey, we have the agony of the presence of Mr Magoo tonight as well.

Horrible first goal to give up.

This is absolutely awful....

Our guys are sleep walking their way through this.

Sighs...2-0 not good.

what the hell are they doing they are standing there and watching the leafs skate

Sundin puts in a rebound, while NY watches

wow...I'm glad I can't watch this one

That's it. I can't watch this crap. This will end in a blowout.

Ugh! :(

This Holleweg Heartbeat thing is rather annoying

Orr vs Belak

Gotta say Malik and Rosie played that great on that last goal. I keep hating Malik worse and worse. Gotta hope for another injury to that stupid goof!

In all honesty the whole team is to blame. Gotta start hitting, going to the net, winning the battles in the corner and playing like they care! :rant:

So much for being angry about the last game.

lols, Prucha is great.

Good goal, needed that.

I thought Tosk saved that too.

holy gorgeous puck movement and finish by Girardi batman!!!!

Danny!

Gomez to Girardi

2-1...lets go

Girardi!

Horrible first goal to give up.

And second.... Why the easy rebounds?!

Great play from Cally..another PP.

Lols Callahan just kept going, damn. Good determination.

Wow do I detect some life? Tie it here..:handclap:

PP goal Girardi, now they can start to play

Toots! TIED GAME BABY!

All thanks to the D-men on the PP :)

HEYY! We are back in it! Defense bailing us out again lol.

TUTIN!!

2 Power Play goals from the second unit

Fruity Tyuty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahaha ! that was a set play by tyutin to only get a little of that shot btw. I've seen him practice it. really. :yo:

YES!! Keep it going boys. Way to find a heartbeat!

Hollweg really is in good shape. I near 200bpm just when Im running

First unit sucks!

Second unit owns!

Squeadly vs Meadly... Go Squeadly... Go Squeadly... SQUEADLY WINS!

SECOND UNIT WINS!

TROGDOR!

We need Orr to fight every 10 minutes to jump start us.. That or switch all our defenseman to forwards..

Crappy period but nice recovery there phew!

Bad start, good finish to the period. Always better than the other way around.

awesome comeback...but we need to keep going hard!!!

Gomez and Drury with 2 assists a piece :)

Where is Jagr at? Haven't seen him all game...

Nice comeback, I was about to give up.

That first half looked pretty bittersweet.

Thank God the boys turned it around ASAP.

well jagr is invisible...he must be taking a game off like he does every now and then.....just imagine if we didnt have drury and gomez.....the score could be 3 or more to zero......oth with two assists and boy do they work well together......

anybody else think that holly looks like bam margera

anybody else think that holly looks like bam margera

I always tell my wife that.

Is this their only 2 goal comeback in one period during the post-lockout era? It at least seems like it...

Bad start but great finish, gotta love the comeback, keep it coming boys! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

Where is Jagr at? Haven't seen him all game...
Hanging in obscurity with the remainder of his line.

Hanging in obscurity with the remainder of his line.

Oh, ok... I thought he became some sort of incompetent ice hockey-playing Predator that cant be seen.

I never wish injury on a player, but let's just say I wouldn't be devestated if one of your players happened to take out Wozniewski on your way to a win here. Just sayin'... :help:

way to start the period.

Malik got 4 min. I believe.

Great..

I never wish injury on a player, but let's just say I wouldn't be devestated if one of your players happened to take out Wozniewski on your way to a win here. Just sayin'... :help:

If you guys kill Malik..

bell you little b****...Orr make sure he gets his money's worth later

Why did Malik get a double minor? I thought high sticking was only a double minor if it draws blood...

If you guys kill Malik..

:naughty: Deal.

Damn...we were doing so well.

no good

ugh :(

Just bring out 5 dmen for this powerplay..

Thanks alot you stupid oaf Malik! Is it a coincidence that we played our best hockey when doofus was injured? GET RID OF THAT STUPID OAF MALIK!!!!!

Funny we have given up 3 goals in the two games Malek has come back

Think it might be time to sit Hank for a game or two. He's played a lot of hockey and just doesn't seem as sharp as we was a month ago. Let him take a couple of games off, get in some good practices, and get his edge back.

Funny we have given up 3 goals in the two games Malek has come back

Yeah, he sure is solid in the defensive zone. GET RID OF THAT STUPID OAF!

Wozniewski is great at contributing to goals for the Rangers.
Malik is great at contributing to goals for the Leafs.

I see a solution here, let's just trade them for each other! :naughty:

just got in, tied up 2-2 I see, anyone wanna sum it up so far for me?? thanks

Wozniewski is great at contributing to goals for the Rangers.
Malik is great at contributing to goals for the Leafs.

I see a solution here, let's just trade them for each other! :naughty:

done.

Dubinsky can never bury one..

just got in, tied up 2-2 I see, anyone wanna sum it up so far for me?? thanks

er...it's 3-2 leafs

rangers came out like crap and let up 2 lazy ones - orr got in a fight - which was a draw/loss then they took a cheap shot in front of theri net - PP goal - cally drew a nice hustle PP and we scored to tie

Dubinsky can never bury one..

How does he shoot it wide with less than a foot of space between you and the goalie!

rangers came out like crap and let up 2 lazy ones - orr got in a fight - which was a draw/loss then they took a cheap shot in front of theri net - PP goal - cally drew a nice hustle PP and we scored to tie

damn, who'd he lose to?? belak???

How does he shoot it wide with less than a foot of space between you and the goalie!

I'm convinced we lead the league in wide shots and having shots blocked..

We're also up there in give aways.

damn, who'd he lose to?? belak???

yup - wade got a nice first shot in and colton never recovered

I see Toots and Danny G scored for us. MY god is offense inept or what?? jeez

I'm convinced we lead the league in wide shots and having shots blocked..

We're also up there in give aways.

It's ridiculous.

I see Toots and Danny G scored for us. MY god is offense inept or what?? jeez

nah actually 2 nice set ups from gomez, just last man in type things

We either need another fight, or 10 Tyutins and 10 Girardis out there.

It's ridiculous.

Add fanned shots and broken sticks to the list..

this is ridiculous

did someone put out a scouting tape called how to beat the rangers and stock it with footage of boring hockey?

Toronto seem to be happy to settle for the 3-2....we've got to make sure that we take care of the puck in that case.

good lord

Ugh that could be it :(

Hanks % is shot.

Toronto arent even trying to do anything and they have 4 goals.

Would be nice if Drury scored on the other side of the ice.

ugly, 4-2 now, its going to be really hard for us to score 2 goals to tie this thing

our offense is really bad, i thought by now it'd work its way out but this is getting ugly

Lundqvists SV% has gone down the toilet tonight :(

Hanks % is shot.

Toronto arent even trying to do anything and they have 4 goals.

yup, 4 goals on 10 shots isn't good

8 goals since Malek has come back.

Have to blame Renney fr screwing up the D

This is getting sad all over again.

All of that positive karma at the end of the first period kind of went through the window.

anyone else hate hearing how great it is that renney can put their 4th against another teams first - it's killing us, shift after TOR scores we have our 4s out - that's not gonna do much

I can't watch them play like this. Happened too often over the last 10 years. Don't have a stomach for it. Hope everyone has a goodnight.

Hanks % is shot.

On the bright side, Drury finally scored. :sarcasm:

Seriously though, you cant fault Henrik on that one, the dang thing tipped nastily. Nothing he could do there.

has Lundqvist got migrains again? what's up with these crap goals..

ugh....i hate these rangers

why are we so damn inconsistent

look at the bright side - after this effort, there is no way we are going to be tired tomorrow

do we get stripped of the puck every minute or what..

Disgusting.

We're not going to win a game when the only goals are by Tyutin & Girardi.

Hank seems to be slowin down from his usual elite performances, time to win a game as a team!

wow....they are playing sooooo badly right now! PICK IT UP FOR THE 3RD RANGERS!!!!! LET'S GO BLUE!!!!!

Averyyyyyyyy, where art thou????

Top line.....are you still breathing?

why are we so damn inconsistent

I know I'm probably not welcome here right now, but IMO it seems like almost every team in the league has struggled with consistency this season. I think it has more to do with parity than anything. Visit almost any team board on this forum and you'll hear the same thing.

I wouldn't be too concerned, you've got a talented bunch, it'll get better.

Averyyyyyyyy, where art thou????

It's stunning how badly we play when he's out.

8 goals since Malek has come back.

Have to blame Renney fr screwing up the D

yea, Maloney was saying earlier that this team plays better when Staal is getting 18-20 min a game, he's right, Malik is done, Mara can't come back any sooner.

It's stunning how badly we play when he's out.

it really is, we are lifeless without Sean

If this Avery BS,(team can't play hard), is for real this team is farther away from the Cup then we all thought. I really can not believe this lackluster sloppy play. :shakehead

I can't watch them play like this. Happened too often over the last 10 years. Don't have a stomach for it. Hope everyone has a goodnight.

I know what you mean, I'm getting flash backs for 03', I'll be switching back and forth between the Skin/Bear game now

Would be nice if Drury scored on the other side of the ice.

No problem, just wait for the next period :)

If this Avery BS,(team can't play hard), is for real this team is farther away from the Cup then we all thought. I really can not believe this lackluster sloppy play. :shakehead
Cup? Cup?! This team hasn't been close to a cup all season. Why the hell did this team decide to suck at playing defense all of a sudden?

can we get someone to cripple malik again? is his contract up this year?

anyone who doesnt want to play the 4th line better not want the 1st line out there, because at least the 4th had a scoring chance......and they werent even out there for the power play....

:shakehead Pathetic.

Yeah, this game is brutal. Only 26 total shots in 40 minutes of hockey, time to watch the 3rd period of Habs/Bruins.

yea, Maloney was saying earlier that this team plays better when Staal is getting 18-20 min a game, he's right, Malik is done, Mara can't come back any sooner.

Time to trade the Big Oaf (assuming anyone wants anything so useless)! If Renney doesn't sit that worthless pile of manure tomorrow nite and plays Mara then he's nuts! I'm starting to think Urianov and Krappa would be better than Malik and whoever draws the short straw that nite!:rant:

I'm still not liking a rookie as our 1st line center.. should experiment a little longer with gomez or drury.. play doobie with prucha and cally..

my god we suck!
hello December swon

Dammit....why do the Rangers and especially Henrik always s@#$ the bed when they play the Leafs.

Can't believe there would ever be a first place Ranger team that I would enjoy watching less.

Yeah, this game is brutal. Only 26 total shots in 40 minutes of hockey, time to watch the 3rd period of Habs/Bruins.

I'm giving the Rangers one final chance. If we're still behind, I'm going to stop flipping back and forth and I'm watching whatever's left of the Habs/Bruins as well.

I can't believe I just said that. :help:

It's stunning how badly we play when he's out.

you guys should send a letter and let gomez know he is allowed to throw a hit, he is soft but has two nice assists

again the 4th line is our best line

i think the 2nd the third lines are playing the best....its just the first....

has Straka scored a goal this year? and how many does Prucha have? Hossa also stinks..

Time to trade the Big Oaf (assuming anyone wants anything so useless)! If Renney doesn't sit that worthless pile of manure tomorrow nite and plays Mara then he's nuts! I'm starting to think Urianov and Krappa would be better than Malik and whoever draws the short straw that nite!:rant:

rachunek is working out great for us in NJ what was your take on him as a ranger?

rachunek is working out great for us in NJ what was your take on him as a ranger?

even worse defensively down low.....not strong....god hard shot.....ok skater.....maybe a good #5....maybe

has Straka scored a goal this year? and how many does Prucha have? Hossa also stinks..

to be honest, i think all of those players are playing well this game....hossa is hitting a lot and prucha is making some good plays and straka is the best player on the first line.....i would say jagr is just sucking tonite

to be honest, i think all of those players are playing well this game....hossa is hitting a lot and prucha is making some good plays and straka is the best player on the first line.....i would say jagr is just sucking tonite
Jagr has sucked 20/25 games this season. I still can't figure out what the purpose of the third line is, apart from killing ice time. Drury is a $7 million third line center. Girardi has been really bad the last couple of games.

Renney is clueless what to do against the high forechecking.

Big Valley in

Gilbert looked like he can outskate Malik there..

Good call taking our Henrik. No reason to let him play the rest of this game if his team in front isn't helping.

rachunek is working out great for us in NJ what was your take on him as a ranger?

umm rachunek was a disaster

I guess pulling Henrik is good move

we get the penalty outta that.. awesome..

And ****ing Malik takes out our #1 D.

So...Malik just high sticked Rozy. Do we get the option to put him in the box for four?

rachunek is working out great for us in NJ what was your take on him as a ranger?

I wasn't high on him @ all, no passion.

Maliks stick takes out Rosie, and Cally takes a penalty, another great start to a period...

Sigh, I was hoping to come back to something a little better than this

rachunek is working out great for us in NJ what was your take on him as a ranger?

Rachunek never looked comfortable as a Ranger. Unlike other posters here I didn't think he looked terrible -- just very unnoticeable (and not in a good way)! I always thought he was a better player then what he looked like with the Rangers. Not sure why!

Dumb penalty on cally, it was malik!!

And ****ing Malik takes out our #1 D.

So...Malik just high sticked Rozy. Do we get the option to put him in the box for four?

Its not enough Malik is killing tha fan base, now he is going after his own teammates
:help:

Fantastic. I'm pretty sure that our defense needs to start trying in their own end.

Its not enough Malik is killing tha fan base, now he is going after his own teammates
:help:


He's just trying to cement himself in the lineup for a few more games.

ouch :(

rachunek is working out great for us in NJ what was your take on him as a ranger?

hahahaha. yea right. he was brutal in the beginning when the devils were brutal. the devils are winning now thanks to Brodeur and Parise and Rachunek has been more physical and proactive, definitely playing solid, but "working out great" is laughable because of how bad he was in the beginning. A 5 game stretch doesn't overshadow the previous 20 games.

back to back beatdowns at home.

Not good.

Lundy is out????

Big Valley in

Puck is in the net :shakehead

PP goal Kubina

this team is a bunch of twinks.. bring up all of hartford and send these guys down.

You know what -- I hope the Leafs pour it on. Put Malik out there every other shift and let he get destroyed! This is pathetic. Maybe they will decide to play against the Thrashers. This Sunday nite is gonna be sad if this is how we play!

I guess this answers the question of whether or not the team is going to fold in december

rachunek has always been better than Malek, this guy is a BUM

I think I'm glad I missed that... (The goal, that is.)

I think I'm done. This game has gone from bad to worse in a timespan of about 43 minutes -- give or take a few seconds.

He's just trying to cement himself in the lineup for a few more games.

Thats very pro active thinking on Maliks part.

can't wait to let 6 in tomorrow..

Are we allowed to just forfeit the game at this point out of fear that in the last fifteen minutes Malik is just gonna start clipping everyone in the face, and try to save some dignity?

rachunek has always been better than Malek, this guy is a BUM

Easy there killer, I know you're upset, but lets keep the crazy talk to ourselves.

this team is a bunch of twinks.. bring up all of hartford and send these guys down.

except for our 4th

alright, well this ones in the books, alright, lets bounce back get the next two against a better ATL team and the hot devils. lose anyone of those games and its going to get really ugly

That's it. I can't watch this crap. This will end in a blowout.
I'm sad when I'm right sometimes. :( You could see after 10 minutes of play that this team had no business succeeding with anything tonight.

turnover *** kings..

Big Valley in

Hank didn't exactly look happy and relaxed on the bench.

I am an isles fan, and i feel bad for you guys watching him play. He just shouldnt be on the ice. :shakehead

I used to be such a staunch defender of Malik too, now I just want him to be a victim of "random" violence while walking the streets of any major city with a crime rate.

Hank didn't exactly look happy and relaxed on the bench.

he shouldn't be, he should sit tomorrow to, time to knock that kid down a peg or two.

You guys are acting retarded. It's always blame Malik when we lose, what the hell did he do? Ok he had his stick up high for a 4 minute double minor. That's it. He played fine other than that, and that was only 1 out of the 5 retarded goals we've given up.

Face it, the whole team sucks right now.

maybe instead of sprints at practice they should have practiced actually getting the puck on net..

Shouldn't have pulled Hank. Should've pulled Jagr, Malik, and Rozsival and sat them on the bench for the entire 3rd. Malik is so ****ING slow. He can't keep up with anyone. He gives players so much room. Roszival is a puss and when he's paired with Malik the two of them just look so useless sometimes. Jagr has got to cut the ****. His head isn't in it. It's not about confidence anymore. He's giving up on plays before they're actually over. He gets bumped or into traffic and he just stops skating completely and gives up on the puck. No excuse for that at all. None. Jagr needs a wakeup call.

Furthermore, why aren't these "veteran" players able to bring their game without Avery in the lineup. I know Avery provides a huge spark and it's wonderful for our team, but we can't just roll over and die without him. These last two games have been thoroughly disappointing.

what a disgusting display of hockey, must be december

A few beatdowns can't hurt right now. Maybe it'll sweep away this retarted indifference that this team seems to play with every day. Even the games we won this season I didn't feel too good about

what a disgusting display of hockey, must be december

yep

Jagr stinks, what a bum.

this game is garbage i havent seen then play this bad since the Thrashers game. Anybody else realize when Malik comes back we start losing.

I don't even know what to say.

2 straight pathetic efforts after a nice turn in against Ottawa.

:shakehead

Can we trade Jagr to the Blues for JD? I can't stand listening to the equal of Chico anymore.. I need some Ohhh Baby like I need more cowbell.

I hope i'm repeating someone smarter than myself when I write "Malik and Strudwick in our defensecorp make us a worse team."

Also, I have reached the unfortunate conclusion that Jagr has reached the point in his career where is his not able to compete at a high level consistently. His lack of consistent committment, a seeming lack of interest in skating hard let alone playing defense, and the fact that he is not a real captain (Shanahan, please take the C) have weighed on me these past two years.

I was hoping that the shoulder injury was the reason for most of last year, but I believe he is relying on natural talent only at this point. Of course he is more talented than a high percentage of players, but it is too easy for a defensemen to guard against him at this point if he is not going to try hard.

EDIT: Oh yeah. Tell Renney that the fans DO NOT MIND SITTING A STAR TO SEND A MESSAGE. SIT JAGR NOW. Also, stop rolling all 4 lines when we're losing. Start doubleshifting the a line to create offense. And free Staal up from his Strudwickian hell. And give up the Hossa experiment. And give Prucha a shot at some REAL offensive time, let him prove to me that his defense stinks or whatever excuse you're using to keep him down. Finally, to Sather, I'm sure someone can use Dawes and Pock, get me something I can use if we have decided that they aren't going to be contributing.

he shouldn't be, he should sit tomorrow to, time to knock that kid down a peg or two.
Knock down a peg or two? Are we talking about the same person? Lundqvist just happens to be a very humble guy. He's one of the few on this team who actually seems to hate losing.

And oh, the reason we beat Ottawa was because they were in their deepest slump of the season. And we beat the Islanders because they were beat from their schedule.

he shouldn't be, he should sit tomorrow to, time to knock that kid down a peg or two.

Please. What did Lundqvist do wrong? The first goal was a completely lazy play by Gomez and our defense. Yea, Lundqvist gave up a rebound but Stajan was completely uncovered to smash a rebound in from 2 feet away. Where's the defense?? Where's the backchecking? The second goal the rebound fell into the crease, but again, Roszival is standing there watching with his stick in the air after Malik got caught way out of position :shakehead. We got completely outplayed on both goals. Nobody contests Sundin standing at the side of the net. The third goal was a PP goal after yet another bad penalty by the Rangers. The fourth was a deflection that no goalie stops without getting purely lucky.

I don't even know what to say.

2 straight pathetic efforts after a nice turn in against Ottawa.

:shakehead

I'm starting to think we got really lucky in that game with Gerber stinking up the joint.

Please. What did Lundqvist do wrong? The first goal was a completely lazy play by Gomez and our defense. Yea, Lundqvist gave up a rebound but Stajan was completely uncovered to smash a rebound in from 2 feet away. Where's the defense?? Where's the backchecking? The second goal the rebound fell into the crease, but again, Roszival is standing there watching with his stick in the air after Malik got caught way out of position :shakehead. We got completely outplayed on both goals. Nobody contests Sundin standing at the side of the net. The third goal was a PP goal after yet another bad penalty by the Rangers. The fourth was a deflection that no goalie stops without getting purely lucky.

agreed, give him tomorrow to bounce back from mon. and today.

If I hear about this stupid heart rate crap anymore.. I will grab my rifle.

Bench Jagr for the rest of this game and give Hossa his minutes. Jagr's looked no different than Marcel Hossa the last two games. Completely inept. At least Hossa hustles.

If we didn't shoot wide every four outta five shots, we would have 80 shots on goal per game.

No effort, all lead by the "captain"

WHY do we pass the puck backwards 9/10 times when we regain the puck in our zone?? Even when we're not making a line change we do it wayyyyyy too much. It's like "ok we've got the puck. now get in position to forecheck and stop us in the neutral zone. we'll give it back soon, we promise" Don't they work on not doing this in practice? What the hell kind of hockey is this team playing?

Lets keep taking wristers from no mans land..

Malik goes bye-bye when Mara comes back, I'd much rather have Struds in there. Staal NEEDS to play more

We always play one month where we look like cup champs, then a month of playing like the worst IHL team..

Does it bother anyone else that Rozsival can look like a #1 defenseman one game and a drunken Ozolinsh the next?