Predict tonights crowd(paid attendance)

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 02:49 PM
This should be fun because sellouts are boring they give you one less thing to talk about.

cj225
11-28-2007, 02:52 PM
I went with 14,000...I'm thinking it'll be between 13 and 14.

And you're exactly right....if we sold out all the time, what would our fans have to complain about?!?

Oh I got it....THE CUP HOLDERS!!!

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 02:52 PM
I went with 13,000 paying customers but, I'll say 10,500 in the house. This would have been about 8,500 at the Swamp last year.

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 02:53 PM
I went with 14,000...I'm thinking it'll be between 13 and 14.

And you're exactly right....if we sold out all the time, what would our fans have to complain about?!?

Oh I got it....THE CUP HOLDERS!!!Oh! those darn cup holders.:biglaugh:

ALine9900
11-28-2007, 02:55 PM
I'm gonna say about about 32

ILikeItVeryMuch
11-28-2007, 02:57 PM
12,000-13,500 tonight. Plus more negative press even though the Isles barely broke 8k and the Nets barely broke 12k.
16,500 or close to a sellout for Friday against the Habs
Between 15,000 and 15,500 Sunday afternoon against Atlanta
13,000 next Wednesday against the Bruins
Sellout next Friday night against the Caps.
How many STH's do we have this season? Have we ever gotten an official number. Between 9k and 11k?

Mr.Krinkle
11-28-2007, 02:57 PM
Eleventy.

cj225
11-28-2007, 02:58 PM
12,000-13,500 tonight. Plus more negative press even though the Isles barely broke 8k and the Nets barely broke 12k.
16,500 or close to a sellout for Friday against the Habs
Between 15,000 and 15,500 Sunday afternoon against Atlanta
13,000 next Wednesday against the Bruins
Sellout next Friday night against the Caps.
How many STH's do we have this season? Have we ever gotten an official number. Between 9k and 11k?

STH = approx. 11,000

MoonDragn
11-28-2007, 02:59 PM
I'm gonna be at the game against Atlanta Sunday. Finally get to see the new Arena. Lets hope we thrash the thrashers! :)

ILikeItVeryMuch
11-28-2007, 03:00 PM
STH = approx. 11,000
That has to be up in the top ten in the league in STH's. I have yet to find any stats on NHL STH numbers.

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 03:01 PM
I'm gonna say about about 3232 what? Thousand? Hundred? or just 32 up from zero? I should have put up the choice of other.:shakehead

cj225
11-28-2007, 03:02 PM
That has to be up in the top ten in the league in STH's. I have yet to find any stats on NHL STH numbers.

How do you figure?

1-6 is the Canadien teams
7-10 Colorado, Detroit, Rangers, Philly (I could probably go on, but I doubt we're in the top 10).

ALine9900
11-28-2007, 03:03 PM
32 what? Thousand? Hundred? or just 32 up from zero? I should have put up the choice of other.:shakehead

Haha I was just kidding, 13,000 sold.

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 03:05 PM
That has to be up in the top ten in the league in STH's. I have yet to find any stats on NHL STH numbers.Teams that I can assure you that have more.

Montreal
Toronto
Ottawa
Vancover
Calgary
Philly
NYR
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Buffalo

Thats ten right there Im sure there is a few more that are doing better than us.

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 03:05 PM
STH = approx. 11,000

I don't think they sold 2,200 walkup on Halloween. I mean, it's possible, but there were about 10 people there.

I would guess in the 13's, but the 12's are possible.

ILikeItVeryMuch
11-28-2007, 03:06 PM
How do you figure?

1-6 is the Canadien teams
7-10 Colorado, Detroit, Rangers, Philly (I could probably go on, but I doubt we're in the top 10).
Top 15-18 is more like it, im tired and about to head off to another 10 hour shift at work, so im pretty out of it. Still, I would like to see official numbers, I think we have a respectable STH base.

cj225
11-28-2007, 03:08 PM
I don't think they sold 2,200 walkup on Halloween. I mean, it's possible, but there were about 10 people there.

I would guess in the 13's, but the 12's are possible.

No, but what I've heard is, for every 2 partial plans, they're considered full season...so if there's an odd number you have to count them!

And that doesn't include your flex plan holders either.

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 03:10 PM
12,000-13,500 tonight. Plus more negative press even though the Isles barely broke 8k and the Nets barely broke 12k.
16,500 or close to a sellout for Friday against the Habs
Between 15,000 and 15,500 Sunday afternoon against Atlanta
13,000 next Wednesday against the Bruins
Sellout next Friday night against the Caps.
How many STH's do we have this season? Have we ever gotten an official number. Between 9k and 11k?

Depending how many tickets ticketmaster holds back, Friday should sellout.

BTW, the website is saying they're doing something for Marty.

But are they advertising this anywhere other than the website? Guh.

cj225
11-28-2007, 03:11 PM
Depending how many tickets ticketmaster holds back, Friday should sellout.

BTW, the website is saying they're doing something for Marty.

But are they advertising this anywhere other than the website? Guh.

Come on now...that makes TOO MUCH SENSE to advertise anywhere else!!! :shakehead :sarcasm:

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 03:18 PM
Come on now...that makes TOO MUCH SENSE to advertise anywhere else!!! :shakehead :sarcasm:

LOL, if it wasn't for fans viral marketing the codes, they'd be drawing a couple hundred less a night, too.

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 03:32 PM
No, but what I've heard is, for every 2 partial plans, they're considered full season...so if there's an odd number you have to count them!

And that doesn't include your flex plan holders either.

And comp STH. They definately gave some to the city.

If they come in between 13-14-15 tonight, that tells you there's alot of STH (since there's plenty of tickets available on ticketmaster).

Alot of games in Feb. I'm sure there'll be a snowstorm that causes only 25 people to show up to one of the games. When they announce the attendance for that snowed in game.... we'll know.

Just like the Isles the other night. It was real ****** out, probably next to no one walked up, so you get 8K. They probably have about that many STH, give or take a hundred or two.

cj225
11-28-2007, 03:41 PM
And comp STH. They definately gave some to the city.

If they come in between 13-14-15 tonight, that tells you there's alot of STH (since there's plenty of tickets available on ticketmaster).

Alot of games in Feb. I'm sure there'll be a snowstorm that causes only 25 people to show up to one of the games. When they announce the attendance for that snowed in game.... we'll know.

Just like the Isles the other night. It was real ****** out, probably next to no one walked up, so you get 8K. They probably have about that many STH, give or take a hundred or two.


Yes....and you'll still get the complainers! YAY!!!

Jiri Bicek
11-28-2007, 03:47 PM
Between 13,232-15,021... Anything above 15k i'll be very happy

cj225
11-28-2007, 03:48 PM
Between 13,232-15,021... Anything about 15k i'll be very happy

Man, how can you think like that? Don't you want this team to succeed? :sarcasm:

Anything less than a sell-out is a disappointment! :shakehead

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 03:54 PM
Yes....and you'll still get the complainers! YAY!!!

"IT WAS ONLY TWO FEET OF SNOW! SO WHAT, THE POWER WAS OUT! MINE YOUR OWN COAL SO THE TRAINS WILL RUN! CLEARLY THIS TEAM NEEDS TO MOVE TO A PLACE WHERE A LITTLE SNOW WON'T KEEP THEM FROM SHOWING UP!"

The complaints, eh. My problem is it never gets put off on the people that deserve it.

If they draw a truly garbage crowd tonight, there should be complaints. Just not directed at the people who pay money to show up, the people who try to buy tickets, but there's only 100 or so cheapies available each game other than the $10 seats, and the people that have 8,000 other things to do in the area, who don't know the building or the team exists because they're marketed like poison.

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 03:55 PM
13,574 paid


We should have a door prize for whoever gets closest. ;)

Jiri Bicek
11-28-2007, 03:55 PM
Man, how can you think like that? Don't you want this team to succeed? :sarcasm:

Anything less than a sell-out is a disappointment! :shakehead

I think some STHs are going to make a statement about the discount codes and protest the event or tell people not to go.. You know, give the devils a little threat... That's the only reason why i didn't say sell-out :)


I'm wonderin how Sunday will be with it being on a Sunday against football.. Especially right with the giants game

cj225
11-28-2007, 03:58 PM
I think some STHs are going to make a statement about the discount codes and protest the event or tell people not to go.. You know, give the devils a little threat... That's the only reason why i didn't say sell-out :)


I'm wonderin how Sunday will be with it being on a Sunday against football.. Especially right with the giants game

The game is at 5 for us, and the Giants play away.

It's not like they're fantastic. And if Eli is playing, why even watch!!!

fortheloveof666
11-28-2007, 04:02 PM
13,574 paid


We should have a door prize for whoever gets closest. ;)

You get a bag-o-pucks and some Easton Hockey tape. :biglaugh:

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 04:07 PM
I'm wonderin how Sunday will be with it being on a Sunday against football.. Especially right with the giants game

Great point. Competing against NFL football is unwise. Then again, so too is only having 3 Saturday night games the entire season. I still dont comprehend how the hell that happened. Saturday night is the #1 drawing night of the week, and we only get 3/41 or 7% of homes games that night.

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 04:11 PM
The game is at 5 for us, and the Giants play away.

It's not like they're fantastic. And if Eli is playing, why even watch!!!

I'm watching the game at the Rock. No one may show up, but my bar tab will probably end up equaling 5 $20 seats.

Marv4Life
11-28-2007, 04:15 PM
Great point. Competing against NFL football is unwise. Then again, so too is only having 3 Saturday night games the entire season. I still dont comprehend how the hell that happened. Saturday night is the #1 drawing night of the week, and we only get 3/41 or 7% of homes games that night.

The Giants and Jets are on the road Sunday, so it shouldn't interfere. And the lack of Saturday night games is made up for 14 Friday night games. Lots of NHL/NBA teams have games that "compete" against the NFL.

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 04:18 PM
I'm watching the game at the Rock. No one may show up, but my bar tab will probably end up equaling 5 $20 seats.

I like where your head's at brother! :thumbu:

Note to Devils:
1) Alcohol carries a high gross margin.
2) More people in seats = More alcohol sales
3) More alcohol sales = More dollars dropping to bottom line (see #1)

MoonDragn
11-28-2007, 04:22 PM
I like where your head's at brother! :thumbu:

Note to Devils:
1) Alcohol carries a high gross margin.
2) More people in seats = More alcohol sales
3) More alcohol sales = More dollars dropping to bottom line (see #1)

Thats another reason I decided to take the train to the Rock from Baltimore. I'm gonna get in some drinking and can't do that if I'm driving home. Hopefully the effects will wear off by the time I get back to baltimore to drive home.

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 04:25 PM
And the lack of Saturday night games is made up for 14 Friday night games.

I disagree, especially with the 7pm starting time we now have. It's tough for many people to reach The Rock by 7pm on a workday. STHs know what I'm talking about, as you often see a BIG difference in the people in the seats at 10minute mark than the start of the game, and it's not due to waiting for beer/food lines, it's because they are in traffic, parking, etc..
I think the Devils would be better served by having 8 or 9 games on both Friday and Saturday nights, rather than 14 Fridays and 3 Saturdays. And if you truly believe in the mantra of spending dollars on local businesses in Newark, you'd really have to buy into that opinion. I certainly cant get to Scullys or the Arena Bar at 5pm on a workday, nor can most people. But on Saturday night games you better believe I will have dinner at local restaurants (not to mention a beer or twelve).

clubseats
11-28-2007, 04:28 PM
Great point. Competing against NFL football is unwise. Then again, so too is only having 3 Saturday night games the entire season. I still dont comprehend how the hell that happened. Saturday night is the #1 drawing night of the week, and we only get 3/41 or 7% of homes games that night.

Great point, someone really dropped the ball on that one. With 20 or so possible Saturday night home games we only get 3 (but we do have 2 Saturday day games). This compares to 5 Saturday night games last year and 4 Saturday 1:00 pm games. 4 less Saturday games is a lot of lost attendance. I bet Vanderbeek thought attendance would be much better than it has been so he kept Saturday's open to attract other arena events. After all, he makes money on those also.

I remember there was a previous thread to guess the number of sellouts this year, 15 to 20 was the average pick. We will be lucky to have 5.

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 04:32 PM
The lack of Saturday games is killing us.

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 04:33 PM
Great point, someone really dropped the ball on that one. With 20 or so possible Saturday night home games we only get 3 (but we do have 2 Saturday day games). This compares to 5 Saturday night games last year and 4 Saturday 1:00 pm games. 4 less Saturday games is a lot of lost attendance. I bet Vanderbeek thought attendance would be much better than it has been so he kept Saturday's open to attract other arena events. After all, he makes money on those also.

I remember there was a previous thread to guess the number of sellouts this year, 15 to 20 was the average pick. We will be lucky to have 5.

They could be at 4 by next Friday.

PuckStopsHere02
11-28-2007, 04:44 PM
I say 13K for this Wednesday night game.

And *** LK, I swear that when I was in class this morning I was thinking of making the exact same thread. Beat me to it.

clubseats
11-28-2007, 04:46 PM
They could be at 4 by next Friday.

How do you figure? Montreal will not be a sellout and there are PLENTY of tickets for the Stevens HOF night. I hope I am wrong.

dougiebrown
11-28-2007, 04:48 PM
13,217, but it will look like 10,217 are there.

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 04:49 PM
I say 13K for this Wednesday night game.

And *** LK, I swear that when I was in class this morning I was thinking of making the exact same thread. Beat me to it.You shouldn't be thinking of threads stick to your studies at school.;) Become highly paid and educated and maybe you can afford Devils tickets.:teach:

Devils Mike
11-28-2007, 04:49 PM
I'd say its 15,000 since a west team and coming from such a long road game trip.

fortheloveof666
11-28-2007, 04:50 PM
You shouldn't be thinking of threads stick to your studies at school.;) Become highly paid and educated and maybe you can afford Devils tickets.:teach:

hahah that was sort of a low-blow dude.

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 04:50 PM
13,217, but it will look like 10,217 are there.If I can put on some weight maybe I can fill an extra seat or two.:naughty:

cj225
11-28-2007, 04:53 PM
Um....I've driven to every game, and only ONCE did I hit traffic. That night was the night we played the Rangers.

There's a thing called GPS, it's a great invention!!

They have 7pm starts at other arenas, you don't see the same problems!

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 04:53 PM
How do you figure? Montreal will not be a sellout and there are PLENTY of tickets for the Stevens HOF night. I hope I am wrong.

I think the Montreal game has a chance. It all depends on how many tickets Ticketmaster is holding. It is clearly much more "sold" than the other two games
this week, as of now.

And if next Friday doesn't sell out, the Devils should beat themselves about the head. You create those kinds of "events" to get people to come. That means their promoting of the event is total garbage.

cj225
11-28-2007, 04:53 PM
If I can put on some weight maybe I can fill an extra seat or two.:naughty:

Then the CUP HOLDERS would become an issue! ;)

PuckStopsHere02
11-28-2007, 05:01 PM
You shouldn't be thinking of threads stick to your studies at school.;) Become highly paid and educated and maybe you can afford Devils tickets.:teach:

Actually I wanted to go to the game but couldn't find anyone else to go with, and I am scared of walking around Newark by myself because of what Barry Melrose said.:teach:







:sarcasm:

clubseats
11-28-2007, 05:14 PM
I'd say its 15,000 since a west team and coming from such a long road game trip.

We did not draw 15K for the Flyers, so we are certainly not going to draw 15K for Dallas.

fortheloveof666
11-28-2007, 05:15 PM
Actually I wanted to go to the game but couldn't find anyone else to go with, and I am scared of walking around Newark by myself because of what Barry Melrose said.:teach:







:sarcasm:

*****. haha.

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 06:00 PM
Then the CUP HOLDERS would become an issue! ;)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3919/cartmancupholdersssspk5.jpg

NJDevilsFan21
11-28-2007, 06:02 PM
13027 with 10001 showing up.

clubseats
11-28-2007, 07:05 PM
My wife just called from the game and said it is a ghost town. I would have gone, but had to work tonight. There will probably be less than 12K tonight.

Easton
11-28-2007, 07:54 PM
Has to be the season low. I'm guessing around 10,500. :shakehead

captainscott
11-28-2007, 07:56 PM
STH = approx. 11,000

I don't believe that number for 2 seconds

i think they have much much less than 11,000 sth's

captainscott
11-28-2007, 07:59 PM
16,234 - 2390 +45

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 08:52 PM
Has to be the season low. I'm guessing around 10,500. :shakehead

No way. There were about 38 of us in the building on Halloween.

njdevil26
11-28-2007, 09:33 PM
nhl.com= 13,665

Jiri Bicek
11-28-2007, 09:38 PM
nhl.com= 13,665

BenedictGomez ("13,574 paid") is the winner! :handclap:

MoonDragn
11-28-2007, 09:40 PM
nhl.com= 13,665

Wow 1 short of 13,666...

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 09:47 PM
nhl.com= 13,665

BenedictGomez ("13,574 paid") is the winner! :handclap:

I was off by 91? I'll try harder next time guys. ;)

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 10:25 PM
I don't believe that number for 2 seconds

i think they have much much less than 11,000 sth's

13,665 tonight says they have alot of STH.

Or do you think 4,000-5,000 people walked up to see this game?

Especially considering it was another "MSG" crowd out of the seats that were sold.

I was looking at the tickets/will call line when I came in and there was next to no one there.

It looks like even if there was a snowstorm, they're going to draw 12,000+. So they've sold *many* more season tickets. Where the people are? Don't ask me.

cj225
11-28-2007, 10:47 PM
Speaking of cup holders...did anyone notice in the "Cheap Seats" that they got rid of the cup holders?

Marv4Life
11-28-2007, 10:58 PM
Speaking of cup holders...did anyone notice in the "Cheap Seats" that they got rid of the cup holders?

I guess they got tired of the complaints. Besides, I think "luxury" items like cupholders should be reserved for the lower level, ie clubs.

And is it just me or did the crowd seem much louder as the team picked it up? From watching the highlights you would think the place went totally bonkers for a Nov. game on a Wed. night vs. Dallas. Also looked like more than the announced crowd.

Muttley
11-28-2007, 11:15 PM
I guess they got tired of the complaints. Besides, I think "luxury" items like cupholders should be reserved for the lower level, ie clubs.

And is it just me or did the crowd seem much louder as the team picked it up? From watching the highlights you would think the place went totally bonkers for a Nov. game on a Wed. night vs. Dallas. Also looked like more than the announced crowd.

Well, It took over 7 periods to see my first Devils goal in Newark after attending two previous games and through 1st period tonight, in which we were shut out.

I went nuts after 1 goal and almost died with 4.

My voice is raspy already. ;)

I was worried that the "announced" crowd would be 10 or 11k, but since there is no attendance spike with this new arena, as long it doesn't drop below 12 or 13k, I guess we should be content even though it is still totally dissapointing, especially since this is the first game back after a road trip.

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 11:17 PM
I guess they got tired of the complaints. Besides, I think "luxury" items like cupholders should be reserved for the lower level, ie clubs.

And is it just me or did the crowd seem much louder as the team picked it up? From watching the highlights you would think the place went totally bonkers for a Nov. game on a Wed. night vs. Dallas. Also looked like more than the announced crowd.

We did. Think of the last two games there and the 1st period tonight. There was a reason the place was like a funeral. I think everyone was pretty happy with what happened.

DevilBesideYou
11-28-2007, 11:34 PM
Well, It took over 7 periods to see my first Devils goal in Newark after attending two previous games and through 1st period tonight, in which we were shut out.

I went nuts after 1 goal and almost died with 4.

My voice is raspy already. ;)

I was worried that the "announced" crowd would be 10 or 11k, but since there is no attendance spike with this new arena, as long it doesn't drop below 12 or 13k, I guess we should be content even though it is still totally dissapointing, especially since this is the first game back after a road trip.
It's also the Dallas Stars, though. No disrespect to them, but I don't know many people who care.

Now, if the Devils had actually advertised that they were going to do a little ceremony for Brodeur (I actually just got an email from the Devils with a "game preview" of tonight's game and info on their ceremony to honor Brodeur), then I would have gone. I almost did, but my husband-in-training doesn't like when I go to Newark by myself.

BenedictGomez
11-28-2007, 11:36 PM
Now, if the Devils had actually advertised that they were going to do a little ceremony for Brodeur, then I would have gone. I almost did, but my husband-in-training doesn't like when I go to Newark by myself.

You're marrying Barry Melrose!?!?!?!?

guyincognito
11-28-2007, 11:36 PM
It's also the Dallas Stars, though. No disrespect to them, but I don't know many people who care.

Now, if the Devils had actually advertised that they were going to do a little ceremony for Brodeur (I actually just got an email from the Devils with a "game preview" of tonight's game and info on their ceremony to honor Brodeur), then I would have gone. I almost did, but my husband-in-training doesn't like when I go to Newark by myself.

The problem with Western teams is, unless you're a CI fan, it's like they came from Mars or something.

Which will be interesting when they go back to the old schedule, because almost all of the western teams have been made into poor draws. The Western teams get some players coming into their buildings that they want to see, the East.... not so much.

This experiment was a very bad idea.

Muttley
11-28-2007, 11:51 PM
It's also the Dallas Stars, though. No disrespect to them, but I don't know many people who care.

Now, if the Devils had actually advertised that they were going to do a little ceremony for Brodeur (I actually just got an email from the Devils with a "game preview" of tonight's game and info on their ceremony to honor Brodeur), then I would have gone. I almost did, but my husband-in-training doesn't like when I go to Newark by myself.

Yeah, I only found out about it this afternoon.

The good thing was that it was short, tasteful and professional. No over-the-top, crying, lovefests, if you know what I mean. ;)

And there were a lot of Modano jerseys there tonight, both Minnesota & Dallas.

You're marrying Barry Melrose!?!?!?!?

Ha, that was good. :)

Lou's Koolaid
11-28-2007, 11:55 PM
You're marrying Barry Melrose!?!?!?!? :biglaugh: Chicks dig the mullet!:yo:

Sarge18
11-29-2007, 12:03 AM
13,665 tonight says they have alot of STH.

Or do you think 4,000-5,000 people walked up to see this game?

Especially considering it was another "MSG" crowd out of the seats that were sold.

I was looking at the tickets/will call line when I came in and there was next to no one there.

It looks like even if there was a snowstorm, they're going to draw 12,000+. So they've sold *many* more season tickets. Where the people are? Don't ask me.


There was a very long line for the box office outside at 5:30 just before they released the $10 seats. Most of those seats looked full tonight.

DevilBesideYou
11-29-2007, 12:05 AM
You're marrying Barry Melrose!?!?!?!?
:biglaugh:

What can I say, my man doesn't like when guys hit on me at games :p:
Yeah, I only found out about it this afternoon.

The good thing was that it was short, tasteful and professional. No over-the-top, crying, lovefests, if you know what I mean. ;)

And that's why I wish I'd gone. I'll be there on Friday, though. Hopefully Marty will score a goal or something so I won't feel so bad.

ILikeItVeryMuch
11-29-2007, 12:21 AM
12,000-13,500 tonight.
Not bad. :teach: