Jhonny Oduya

Now lets talk about this problem we have its called (Oduya)!!!!

Oduya is a disease and its sprading around and effecting the whole team aspecial on Defence. I have never seen a player like him the man is a problem and should be let go, the penalties he does and the DROP OF THE FU***KIN STICK and he goes and picks it up like a retard and leaves his man open and the get chances and they score
Or the puck over the glass the man lead the league last season and lucky didnt effect us that much thanks to the defence core we had, now this season the man does game in game out he does the most stupied penalties in the world that man has to go....

NOW Brent Sutter we know he a good coach yea he led canada to gold medals booo whooo... Canada is already strong then the other teams its not the NHL. I like his system and it could work but can u go to DEVILS HOCKEY AND GET SOME WINS!!!! So we can get our players confidence back then we can go to his system and last but not least

MIKE MOTTAU
I really like his game i dont know why Brent Sutter does have confidence in him he's wayyyyyyyyyy Better them Oduya i think he should be in Oduya Out plz tell me wat u guys think of this thanks

you can pretty much click on any thread and you will see what people think about him

me, well, he definitely improved since the begining o the year, but i think thats due to the facvt taht he was playing with martin. hes not going to tomorow probably and he is going to play with mattau again so we will see how taht goes. hes not as bad as you make him out to be.
i gotta ask arent you an avs fan??

Now lets talk about this problem we have its called (Oduya)!!!!

DROP OF THE FU***KIN STICK and he goes and picks it up like a retard and leaves his man open and the get chances and they score


MEMO to Johnny Oduya. Johnny, there are 3 things you need to properly prepare your stick.

1) Hockey Tape
2) String
3) Paper

So help me God, if he drops another stick I'm going to get arrested for going into the Devils locker room and taping his sticks properly.





Or the puck over the glass the man lead the league last season

I believe he has 3 of them already through the first 10 games this year. The guy loves giving the fans souvenir pucks.

you know thats a very good idea... get a stick with a lanyard attached to his wrist so if he lets go it'll still be attached to his wrist.

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in the scheme of things, oduya is the fastest skater playing D. he's not that bad. I've seen every game. not sure what you see in mike mottau. we have no shutdown d man at the moment. johnny's just fine. (as long as he doesn't drop his stick.)

He has played better the last 2 games and that rush he had against Ottawa is the only reason he is still in the lineup. If you saw on that play Brookbank was down low being pressured and he got it to Oduya who was able to skate it out of the zone with speed. That's the main reason Sutter keeps him out there but he still makes critical mistakes at pivotal times of the game. He will play 40 solid minutes and then his F up will lead to the game changing goal. Its so frustrating when you remember how well he played the beginning of last season.

Here we go again. :naughty:

The stick thing though has been peculiar. How about one of those giant Hallmark cards for Matvichuk? Would it help?

I agree the quickness and speed has kept JO in the line-up, but I'd trade it for another solid Foote or Dan-o type right now.

He has played better the last 2 games and that rush he had against Ottawa is the only reason he is still in the lineup. If you saw on that play Brookbank was down low being pressured and he got it to Oduya who was able to skate it out of the zone with speed. That's the main reason Sutter keeps him out there but he still makes critical mistakes at pivotal times of the game. He will play 40 solid minutes and then his F up will lead to the game changing goal. Its so frustrating when you remember how well he played the beginning of last season.
Well, that and Rachunek is injured.

I think we're just expecting too much out of Johnny O. I'd rather see Martin step up.

And, I think that we need to staple Johnny's stick to his glove. Maybe that will teach him not to drop it...

I prefer Oduya to Rachunek. The Devils scoring just went down because they won't have Rachunek knocking it in the net for the Devils eight games out of the season.

Perhaps Lou Lamoriello should have coaxed Malakhov out of retirement instead of signing Rachunek.

Well, that and Rachunek is injured.

I think we're just expecting too much out of Johnny O. I'd rather see Martin step up.

And, I think that we need to staple Johnny's stick to his glove. Maybe that will teach him not to drop it...

The only reason I don't feel we are expecting to much was because we saw more from him last season. I believe he is capable of it, I just don't know how we get him back there. In the meantime though he is :banghead:

Here we go again. :naughty:

The stick thing though has been peculiar. How about one of those giant Hallmark cards for Matvichuk? Would it help?

I agree the quickness and speed has kept JO in the line-up, but I'd trade it for another solid Foote or Dan-o type right now.

So would I. Even just to kick JO down to 6th dman minutes, where his mistakes would hopefully be less costly.

I prefer Oduya to Rachunek. The Devils scoring just went down because they won't have Rachunek knocking it in the net for the Devils eight games out of the season.

Perhaps Lou Lamoriello should have coaxed Malakhov out of retirement instead of signing Rachunek.

There are only 4 out of 20 Devils that are positive on the season, and Rachunek is one of them. Barring the terrible play against the Rangers, I'd give him a "C" grade, no he hasnt been very good, but he's passing. Oduya is -4, seems to be playing for the competition at times, and gets a "F" so far. Also, I dont know where this nonsense came from about Oduya being "good" last year (it seems to get repeated a lot). I never thought he was very good, he only scored 11 points on the year and was a -6, and he was out of position a lot too (just like now).

I prefer Oduya to Rachunek. The Devils scoring just went down because they won't have Rachunek knocking it in the net for the Devils eight games out of the season.

Perhaps Lou Lamoriello should have coaxed Malakhov out of retirement instead of signing Rachunek.

Yeah I've been very disappointed in him too. I think I've seen him take 2 slap shots all year. That's what we got you for man, USE IT!

Yes, because Oduya is the whole problem. If you get rid of him the Devils are an immediate Stanley Cup favorite.

Yes, because Oduya is the whole problem.

No, but he certainly isnt part of the solution.

The only reason I don't feel we are expecting to much was because we saw more from him last season. I believe he is capable of it, I just don't know how we get him back there. In the meantime though he is :banghead:
I meant more with playing him with Martin - giving him top minutes when he's not good enough, period. Martin and Greene should do better, though, so that problem is remedied.

I agree to some extent with what you said about Johnny O - but from what I remember at that time almost all of our dmen were stinking it up...so maybe he really wasn't that good? And if he was, what's keeping him from it now? I just hope that Sutter can get him back there. He obviously sees something in Johnny.

How ridiculous. Oduya is a fine 3rd pairing defensemen, he's just being exposed because he is playing top pairing minutes. Thats not his fault, we just don't have solid depth on D.

I like Mottau, but he is obviously not the answer. We only have two top 4 d-men, Martin and Greene. We need a top pair defenseman. Unfortunately, they are almost impossible to acquire.

I prefer Oduya to Rachunek. The Devils scoring just went down because they won't have Rachunek knocking it in the net for the Devils eight games out of the season.

Perhaps Lou Lamoriello should have coaxed Malakhov out of retirement instead of signing Rachunek.

From what I've seen of Brookbank so far, we won't even miss Rachunek. This guy looks like a bigger version of Greene.

in the scheme of things, oduya is the fastest skater playing D. he's not that bad. I've seen every game. not sure what you see in mike mottau. we have no shutdown d man at the moment. johnny's just fine. (as long as he doesn't drop his stick.)

Or fall over, or lose his man in the slot.

Yes, because Oduya is the whole problem. If you get rid of him the Devils are an immediate Stanley Cup favorite.

I just don't understand this logic. Do you just ignore problems on your team just because they aren't the whole answer? :shakehead

I meant more with playing him with Martin - giving him top minutes when he's not good enough, period. Martin and Greene should do better, though, so that problem is remedied.

I agree to some extent with what you said about Johnny O - but from what I remember at that time almost all of our dmen were stinking it up...so maybe he really wasn't that good? And if he was, what's keeping him from it now? I just hope that Sutter can get him back there. He obviously sees something in Johnny.

But you know what, last year he was paired with Martin for awhile. And he was playing well still when the team turned around. Its ever since that injury that he got like last Feb that he fell off. He was getting decent minutes before that injury last year too.

in the scheme of things, oduya is the fastest skater playing D. he's not that bad. I've seen every game. not sure what you see in mike mottau. we have no shutdown d man at the moment. johnny's just fine. (as long as he doesn't drop his stick.)

I agree with this. Johnny tries really hard... hes very fast, but he often holds on to the puck too long and makes a mistake. I feel bad for the guy sometimes, he tries very hard day in and day out.

I agree with this. Johnny tries really hard... hes very fast, but he often holds on to the puck too long and makes a mistake. I feel bad for the guy sometimes, he tries very hard day in and day out.

I agree that Jhonny seems to try really hard every game.
That doesn't mean he belongs on the ice in the situations he's been in this season.
I would try really hard on the ice, too, but that doesn't justify me being on the ice in the final minutes of a one-goal-game.
The blame doesn't all fall on Oduya, IMHO, he's not a top pairing defenseman, but he's been asked to play like one.
I don't even really blame Sutter, he's working with what he's got. He does not have a true top pairing to dress each game.
Lou, well, Lou has a suspect product in the ice right now. Rafalski left, Matvichuck isn't in the plans, and Rachunek and Vishnevski have been underwhelming thus far.

I don't have the answer to all the problems this team has right now, but they are bigger than Oduya.

I just don't understand this logic. Do you just ignore problems on your team just because they aren't the whole answer? :shakehead

No. My response is to posts like Oduya is a disease and its sprading around and effecting the whole team aspecial on Defence.

And my point is that this group has decided to focus it's ire on Oduya, letting him bear the brunt of their frustrations when, in fact, he's probably not played as bad as everyone thinks. Once you decide to watch a player and wait, crouched, ready to pounce on his every mistake then, yes, those mistakes will appear to come often and be devastating. But frankly, that type of magnifying glass could be placed up against every player on this team with equally devastating results. But instead of doing that, everyone has decided that Oduya is the worst and this team will change when he is gone. I also trust the judgement of Brent Sutter and Larry Robinson and Tommy Albelin and Lou Lamoriello, all of whom apparently see something in his game that the Oduya-haters do not.

Do I see mistakes in his game? Yes, of course. But I also don't think that he has been the worst player on this team, at least not consistently so. I'd give that "honor" to many different Devils players in rotation.

Whenever you have a journeyman defenseman playing top 4 minutes, it generally isn't good.

Without a guy like Rafalski backing him up, Oduya shouldn't be playing over 15 minutes a game.

But frankly, that type of magnifying glass could be placed up against every player on this team with equally devastating results.

I disagree. I know that the rest of the Defense is hardly perfect, and not by a longshot, but it is my belief that Oduya is bar none the "weakest link" right now. I am not "focusing" on him with a magnifying glass, I'm just watching the games.

Oduya is horrible which I've been saying for such a long time. He constantly makes mistakes and probably out of 10 mistakes he makes a sort of good play, also he cannot score or take a shot for his life. Seriously, Matvichuk was a much better player even at his age and I did not understand why Sutter took him off the team.

No. My response is to posts like

And my point is that this group has decided to focus it's ire on Oduya, letting him bear the brunt of their frustrations when, in fact, he's probably not played as bad as everyone thinks. Once you decide to watch a player and wait, crouched, ready to pounce on his every mistake then, yes, those mistakes will appear to come often and be devastating. But frankly, that type of magnifying glass could be placed up against every player on this team with equally devastating results. But instead of doing that, everyone has decided that Oduya is the worst and this team will change when he is gone. I also trust the judgement of Brent Sutter and Larry Robinson and Tommy Albelin and Lou Lamoriello, all of whom apparently see something in his game that the Oduya-haters do not.

Do I see mistakes in his game? Yes, of course. But I also don't think that he has been the worst player on this team, at least not consistently so. I'd give that "honor" to many different Devils players in rotation.

Oh please, i believe there are threads on this board about benching elias, Broduer being over rated, the coach, the style etc. etc. he is hardly the only player being called out and I'd love to find a post where someone has said that if we get rid of him all of our problems are solved. please find one anywhere. The reason he is drawing alot of ire is because he deserves it, sorry. In the last 4 games he has been on the ice for every game winning goal against, except in the Ranger game where he was getting off the ice on the play. Whether he is the worst on the team is debatable but his results have been devastating. You want to defend him that's fine but please stop with the BS exaggerations.

No. My response is to posts like

And my point is that this group has decided to focus it's ire on Oduya, letting him bear the brunt of their frustrations when, in fact, he's probably not played as bad as everyone thinks. Once you decide to watch a player and wait, crouched, ready to pounce on his every mistake then, yes, those mistakes will appear to come often and be devastating. But frankly, that type of magnifying glass could be placed up against every player on this team with equally devastating results. But instead of doing that, everyone has decided that Oduya is the worst and this team will change when he is gone. I also trust the judgement of Brent Sutter and Larry Robinson and Tommy Albelin and Lou Lamoriello, all of whom apparently see something in his game that the Oduya-haters do not.

Do I see mistakes in his game? Yes, of course. But I also don't think that he has been the worst player on this team, at least not consistently so. I'd give that "honor" to many different Devils players in rotation.

Exactly my point about JO, but unfortunately for him his mistakes have been too obvious. One thing is pinching in, giving up an odd man rush, then Marty makes the save or the shot goes wide or whatever happens and no goal is scored. But when the mistakes leads to a goal, no solid effort the rest of the game is going to cover that up. I think his done some solid work, but too many head lines mistakes.

His time needs to go down, but who plays with Martin instead? Brookbank. Whoever said all we have to rely on is Martin and Greene was correct.